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Jim in CT
09-21-2018, 11:11 AM
Dr Ford's attorneys have submitted their list of demands to the Senate, demands that must be met if she agrees to testify. Some are absolutely reasonable (there must be adequate security).

Some are laughable, absurd, asinine. Ford says that Kavanaugh must testify first. Then she will testify.

In other words, Ford is demanding that Kavanaugh NOT BE ALLOWED to respond, under oath, to the specifics of her allegation. She is demanding that Kavanaugh not be allowed to confront his accuser, not even to confront her accusation. She expects him to testify, without knowing the details of her accusation. How do you defend yourself against an accusation, without knowing the specifics of what you've been accused of?

Are these people insane?

Earth to Professor Ford, you aren't the one who dictates these protocals. They probably made the list asinine enough to ensure that the Senate refuses, then they can go on the attack, saying that the Judiciary committee didn't care enough about Dr Ford to agree to her simple demands.

Another demand, that she and Kavanaugh each only be allowed to speak for the same exact amount of time? How does that make any sense?

Pete F.
09-21-2018, 11:39 AM
Maybe they got advice from Rudy Giuliani.

Nebe
09-21-2018, 11:46 AM
I’ve got my popcorn ready.
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spence
09-21-2018, 11:47 AM
It's pretty impressive to see how Ford's attorney is out maneuvering the Republican Senators.

Jim in CT
09-21-2018, 11:58 AM
It's pretty impressive to see how Ford's attorney is out maneuvering the Republican Senators.

oh yes, they really have grassley on the ropes!

you are precious.
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Jim in CT
09-21-2018, 11:59 AM
I’ve got my popcorn ready.
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he probably gets confirmed next week, then we’ll see how
much the voters hold the gop accountable for rushing, and how much they hold the democrats responsible for this farce.
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Jim in CT
09-21-2018, 12:02 PM
It's pretty impressive to see how Ford's attorney is out maneuvering the Republican Senators.

Meanwhile feinstein, who started all of this, is backpedaling, making sure we all know that she isn’t saying the accusation is truthful.
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Pete F.
09-21-2018, 12:14 PM
Rumour is the Republicans have made a counter offer.
Maybe she is a great negotiator also

PaulS
09-21-2018, 12:37 PM
if you have an actual hearing instead of a charade you wouldn't have these problems.

Jim in CT
09-21-2018, 01:27 PM
if you have an actual hearing instead of a charade you wouldn't have these problems.

Charade, huh? The Republicans are trying to get Ford to testify, they even agreed to fly to CA and do it on her home. Not good enough.

The accuser cannot remember WHAT YEAR the assault took place, or at what location. That's the charade.

PaulS
09-21-2018, 02:15 PM
Yes, it is a charade when the FBI can investigate (like they did with A Hill) but the Pres. won't ask them too. Looks like McConnell is waiting for the "hearing" to make his mind up (HAHAHAHA)

"Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell clearly doesn’t think the sexual assault allegations against Judge Brett Kavanaugh will be anything more than a stumbling block on his path to confirmation to the Supreme Court.

“President Trump has nominated a stunningly successful individual. You’ve watched the fight. You’ve watched the tactics, but here’s what I want to tell you: in the very near future Judge Kavanaugh will be on the United States Supreme Court,” the Kentucky Republican said."

wdmso
09-21-2018, 02:19 PM
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The radical left lawyers want the FBI to get involved NOW. Why didn’t someone call the FBI 36 years ago?

I want dates and times

Trump always helpful the GOP has a stoic History with sexual assault and how they view rape

Jim in CT
09-21-2018, 02:30 PM
paul, isnit also a charade when a us senator, a leading candidate for the democratic presidential nomination, says that he’s Spartacus?
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PaulS
09-21-2018, 02:43 PM
But I thought you Republicans are so much better than the Democrats. And what does that have to do with the hearing being a charade?
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Nebe
09-21-2018, 03:19 PM
But I thought you Republicans are so much better than the Democrats. And what does that have to do with the hearing being a charade?
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Lol
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spence
09-21-2018, 03:19 PM
paul, isnit also a charade when a us senator, a leading candidate for the democratic presidential nomination, says that he’s Spartacus?
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So you're more concerned with a little dramatization over the Republicans impeding the job of the judicial committee?

Jim in CT
09-21-2018, 03:36 PM
So you're more concerned with a little dramatization over the Republicans impeding the job of the judicial committee?

feinstein held onto the letter for weeks, the democrats leaked her name to the media, the gop has postponed twice to accommodate Ford, any of that wrong?
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Pete F.
09-21-2018, 03:48 PM
Women who attended Christine Blasey Ford's high school have delivered a letter in support of her to senators as she faces scrutiny over her accusation that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted when they were teens.


Organizers say more than 1,000 women from the school signed the letter. The women say they believe Ford, calling her accusation "all too consistent with stories we heard and lived" while going to the Holton-Arms School in Bethesda, Maryland.

Some of the women who signed the letter delivered it personally Thursday to Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, a West Virginia Republican who also graduated from the Holton-Arms School.

Alumna Alexis Goldstein says word of the letter spread through social media and personal networks. She describes Ford as courageous.

Kavanaugh has denied Ford's accusation.

Jim in CT
09-21-2018, 04:53 PM
Women who attended Christine Blasey Ford's high school have delivered a letter in support of her to senators as she faces scrutiny over her accusation that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted when they were teens.


Organizers say more than 1,000 women from the school signed the letter. The women say they believe Ford, calling her accusation "all too consistent with stories we heard and lived" while going to the Holton-Arms School in Bethesda, Maryland.

Some of the women who signed the letter delivered it personally Thursday to Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, a West Virginia Republican who also graduated from the Holton-Arms School.

Alumna Alexis Goldstein says word of the letter spread through social media and personal networks. She describes Ford as courageous.

Kavanaugh has denied Ford's accusation.

consistent with stories about kavanaugh? if not, bfd.
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spence
09-21-2018, 05:34 PM
I love it, just draw things out and let trump tweet and republican lawmakers say stupid things.
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Got Stripers
09-21-2018, 05:53 PM
Trump shows his empathy again stating if she had endured such an assault, she surely would have reported it to police or her parents. Either he is just clueless, or as I suspect, he doesn’t fing care; it’s all about getting his man seated. Having first hand experience I know women and men (just ask the Catholic Church) who suffer sexual assaults routinely don’t tell anyone. You think his comments about what happened at school stayed in school might be telling?
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Pete F.
09-21-2018, 05:59 PM
Does anyone think this will affect the midterms?
To whose benefit?
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fishbones
09-22-2018, 05:26 AM
It's pretty impressive to see how Ford's attorney is out maneuvering the Republican Senators.

In what universe?
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09-22-2018, 06:55 AM
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The radical left lawyers want the FBI to get involved NOW. Why didn’t someone call the FBI 36 years ago?

I want dates and times

Trump always helpful the GOP has a stoic History with sexual assault and how they view rape

OccupyDemocrats, Infowars, and Russian Bot / Agitprop are the unsuitable material to put on here.

wdmso
09-22-2018, 07:54 AM
OccupyDemocrats, Infowars, and Russian Bot / Agitprop are the unsuitable material to put on here.

All statement in the meme are factual just because the meme had a OccupyDemocrats, dosen't change that but i found one with out an occupy democrats tag .

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/personal-foul/

I do do my due diligence

Sea Dangles
09-22-2018, 11:07 AM
All statement in the meme are factual just because the meme had a OccupyDemocrats, dosen't change that but i found one with out an occupy democrats tag .

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/personal-foul/

I do do my due diligence

It’s one thing for people to think you are an idiot but another thing entirely to prove it by posting stuff like that.
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JohnR
09-22-2018, 11:09 AM
The bar is low, Wayne. Shall we do comparison's on stupid things Dem politicians have said regarding this?

Ya know, OccupyDems, Infowars and Russian Bots, like a stopped clock, can still be occasionally correct. Does not make them right, or good and fair arbiters of truth and justice.

Jim in CT
09-22-2018, 12:32 PM
Does anyone think this will affect the midterms?
To whose benefit?
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that is the million dollar question. we will know in a few weeks.
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wdmso
09-22-2018, 02:45 PM
It’s one thing for people to think you are an idiot but another thing entirely to prove it by posting stuff like that.
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Sadly none of it bothers you .... that in itself is telling

wdmso
09-22-2018, 02:49 PM
The bar is low, Wayne. Shall we do comparison's on stupid things Dem politicians have said regarding this?

Ya know, OccupyDems, Infowars and Russian Bots, like a stopped clock, can still be occasionally correct. Does not make them right, or good and fair arbiters of truth and justice.


why not if has been spoken it fair to show the comparison . my post had zero to do with OccupyDems, Infowars and Russian Bots, or their credibility

just pointing out what the right has had to say on the issue of Rape and sexual assault .. which happen to be factual

PaulS
09-22-2018, 02:58 PM
It’s one thing for people to think you are an idiot but another thing entirely to prove it by posting stuff like that.
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It's one thing for people to think you know nothing but it's an another thing entirely to prove it by posting nothing repeatedly.
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Sea Dangles
09-22-2018, 03:08 PM
Touché
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Sea Dangles
09-22-2018, 03:12 PM
Sadly none of it bothers you .... that in itself is telling

I told you I don’t like Trump.
Jim has told you the same many times....

The fact you insist on saying he is our guy or that his actions don’t bother us.....that is why I called you an idiot.

But keep beating the drum,it makes a real difference.
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scottw
09-23-2018, 04:22 AM
I told you I don’t like Trump.
Jim has told you the same many times....


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#metoo

scottw
09-23-2018, 04:24 AM
oops....

Long-Time Friend of Christine Blasey Ford Contradicts Her on Party

"A friend of the woman who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault has denied that she was at the party where the alleged assault occurred.

The Senate Judiciary Committee reached out to Leland Ingham Keyser, a friend of Christine Blasey Ford.

Ms. Keyser, whom CNN confirms is “a lifelong friend of Ford’s,” is the third named witness to deny any knowledge of the allegations.
Keyser’s lawyer, Howard Walsh, responded to the committee late Saturday in a written statement.

“Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford,” the attorney wrote.

All of Ford's named witnesses of the party, both male and female, have now denied any recollection of attending such a party. Mark Judge and Patrick J. Smyth have also issued statements rejecting Ford’s recollection."

spence
09-23-2018, 09:03 AM
She was her friend not her baby sitter
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The Dad Fisherman
09-23-2018, 09:27 AM
#metoo

#Ditto
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scottw
09-23-2018, 09:30 AM
She was her friend not her baby sitter
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nobody suggested she was her baby sitter

detbuch
09-23-2018, 10:44 AM
#Ditto
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I didn't like him before he ran for President. I didn't like him when he made mincemeat out of the other 15 Republicans who he ran against . . . but it did make me laugh at the way he did it, which drew me toward neutral like/dislike. And since he has been constantly attacked by all sides and "media," I have begun a sort of sympathy like. But not really a like. Though I like when some of his policies seem to be working. And I am not a fan of fake media. But I had that dislike way before Trump.

PaulS
09-23-2018, 12:58 PM
Have the FBI investigate and they will all be under oath. Otherwise it's just he said she said.
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spence
09-23-2018, 10:19 PM
Come on, he’s done.
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Raider Ronnie
09-24-2018, 05:46 AM
Woman is supposedly raped or sexually assaulted and waits 30 years before she says a word 🤔
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RIROCKHOUND
09-24-2018, 06:40 AM
Woman is supposedly raped or sexually assaulted and waits 30 years before she says a word 🤔
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How many men waited 30 years after a priest diddled them to say a word?🤔
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Got Stripers
09-24-2018, 06:45 AM
Woman is supposedly raped or sexually assaulted and waits 30 years before she says a word 🤔
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Ignorant! You either don’t care or are completely out of touch with the fear a young victom feels about coming forward.
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Nebe
09-24-2018, 07:05 AM
Ignorant! You either don’t care or are completely out of touch with the fear a young victom feels about coming forward.
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He doesn’t care.
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The Dad Fisherman
09-24-2018, 07:41 AM
Come on, he’s done.
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You’d have fit in well in 1600’s Salem.
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spence
09-24-2018, 07:47 AM
You’d have fit in well in 1600’s Salem.
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You have two accusers now and Michael Avenatti claiming to have people stating much worse.

One of Kavanaugh’s good friends tries to pin it on another classmate potentially creating a defamation case.

This is a mess. Time for a mulligan.
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scottw
09-24-2018, 10:16 AM
You have two accusers now and Michael Avenatti claiming to have people stating much worse.

One of Kavanaugh’s good friends tries to pin it on another classmate potentially creating a defamation case.

This is a mess. Time for a mulligan.
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you are embarrassing yourself

wdmso
09-24-2018, 10:50 AM
I told you I don’t like Trump.
Jim has told you the same many times....

The fact you insist on saying he is our guy or that his actions don’t bother us.....that is why I called you an idiot.

But keep beating the drum,it makes a real difference.
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Jim beats the drums 247 seems you dont have an issue with what he's playing

On one issue after another – from Russia and free trade to corruption and the rule of law – Republicans have adjusted their principles to conform with Trumpism, which often means with Trump’s latest glandular impulse.

you cant be a fence walker with Trump.. you're on the team or your not ..

its like being friends with a wife beater .. because he's a good fisherman...
you cant have it both ways .. thats my point

Raider Ronnie
09-24-2018, 11:02 AM
Ignorant! You either don’t care or are completely out of touch with the fear a young victom feels about coming forward.
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Victims feelings ???
Both accusers (the 2nd one admitted it) they were so drunk they have no idea how they got there,who was there, when it happened etc.....,
The only certainty is both will have no problem remember to cash the check from Soros !
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Raider Ronnie
09-24-2018, 11:05 AM
He doesn’t care.
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Don’t care ???
Do some research.
I’m one of the biggest haters of child molesters and have had no problem calling them out.
Go back in the archives and look.
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Jim in CT
09-24-2018, 11:13 AM
You have two accusers now and Michael Avenatti claiming to have people stating much worse.

One of Kavanaugh’s good friends tries to pin it on another classmate potentially creating a defamation case.

This is a mess. Time for a mulligan.
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You still, after 2 years, have no idea who's in the Oval Office. I mean if real evidence is presented, that's one thing. But Trump isn't going to want to withdraw his nominee, based on allegations that have zero supporting evidence, and a fair amount of contradictory evidence.

If an unsubstantiated allegation is enough to disqualify someone, then no one will ever get confirmed. The minority party, especially if it's the democrats, will always get someone to come forward.

It's also interesting to me, that apparently the state of MD has no statute of limitations on such a crime. If that's true (that's what I'm hearing), why isn't Ford asking the MD police to investigate, why is she limiting her storytelling to the political arena?

Then as far as Senate Democrats go, none of them is saying Keith Ellison must resign, so that shows you how sincere they are.

As for Fitgerald, the second accuser...the New York Times refused to run the story, because they didn't believe it. Case closed.

Pete F.
09-24-2018, 12:09 PM
Looking at the latest poll, by Fox, i would suggest that in the interest of the Republican Party Kavanaugh should withdraw.
Half of the voters would not confirm him currently and many say the hearings and votes will affect how they view their candidates.
If you only look at suburban women things get worse.
The political rebound from having him withdraw, saying we don't think he is guilty but yada yada yada it is the most important appointment and we need to have the right candidate etc. and nominating someone else will have positive effects on the voters most needed in the midterms.
Keep going down this rabbithole and nothing good will happen.

scottw
09-24-2018, 01:02 PM
i would suggest that in the interest of the Republican Party Kavanaugh should withdraw.



that would only encourage evil democrats to continue their evil ways

Jim in CT
09-24-2018, 01:10 PM
Have the FBI investigate and they will all be under oath. Otherwise it's just he said she said.
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What will an FBI investigation really accomplish, in practical terms? The FBI investigated Clarence Thomas, found zero evidence he did anything wrong. Did the democrats and the media all get together and give him an apology? Nope. Anita Hill is all over the media, being asked what it was like to be a victim. They pretty much dismissed the FBI investigation because the outcome didn't serve their agenda.

What times we live in, I gotta tell you.

Jim in CT
09-24-2018, 01:10 PM
Jim beats the drums 247 seems you dont have an issue with what he's playing

On one issue after another – from Russia and free trade to corruption and the rule of law – Republicans have adjusted their principles to conform with Trumpism, which often means with Trump’s latest glandular impulse.

you cant be a fence walker with Trump.. you're on the team or your not ..

its like being friends with a wife beater .. because he's a good fisherman...
you cant have it both ways .. thats my point

What drum do I beat 24/7, that Trump is awesome? Right...

Jim in CT
09-24-2018, 01:12 PM
that would only encourage evil democrats to continue their evil ways

Exactly.

If there's real evidence, some serious evidence, then he should go away. I don't think they should do it based just on unsubstantiated allegations.

The same pollsters at Foxnews said Hilary was going to win big.

PaulS
09-24-2018, 01:26 PM
What will an FBI investigation really accomplish, in practical terms? The FBI investigated Clarence Thomas, found zero evidence he did anything wrong. Did the democrats and the media all get together and give him an apology? Nope. Anita Hill is all over the media, being asked what it was like to be a victim. They pretty much dismissed the FBI investigation because the outcome didn't serve their agenda.

What times we live in, I gotta tell you.

Most of what A H and C T said dealt with he said she said. In this instance(s) there are other witnessess. One said he was there and it didn't occur but doesn't want to testify - well put him under oath. With the new person - some say they remember hearing about it that night or the following morning. Put them under oath and see if they are credible.

The Repubs are saying a vote needs to occur - why the self imposed deadline? There is no reason for a deadline for such an important position.

scottw
09-24-2018, 01:29 PM
Most of what A H and C T said dealt with he said she said. In this instance(s) there are other witnessess. One said he was there and it didn't occur but doesn't want to testify - well put him under oath. With the new person - some say they remember hearing about it that night or the following morning. Put them under oath and see if they are credible.

The Repubs are saying a vote needs to occur - why the self imposed deadline? There is no reason for a deadline for such an important position.

you are smarter than this

Jim in CT
09-24-2018, 01:41 PM
I didn't like him before he ran for President. I didn't like him when he made mincemeat out of the other 15 Republicans who he ran against . . . but it did make me laugh at the way he did it, which drew me toward neutral like/dislike. And since he has been constantly attacked by all sides and "media," I have begun a sort of sympathy like. But not really a like. Though I like when some of his policies seem to be working. And I am not a fan of fake media. But I had that dislike way before Trump.

And i like my bigger paycheck and insane IRA balance.

And I like how he's sticking by Kavanaugh, I do admire that. Trump could care less.

Jim in CT
09-24-2018, 01:44 PM
Most of what A H and C T said dealt with he said she said. In this instance(s) there are other witnessess. One said he was there and it didn't occur but doesn't want to testify - well put him under oath. With the new person - some say they remember hearing about it that night or the following morning. Put them under oath and see if they are credible.

The Repubs are saying a vote needs to occur - why the self imposed deadline? There is no reason for a deadline for such an important position.

"In this instance(s) there are other witnesses"

All of whom deny the accusations as far as I know.

"The Repubs are saying a vote needs to occur - why the self imposed deadline? There is no reason for a deadline for such an important position"

I agree, do an investigation, I just think it's a sham because if the FBI concludes he didn't do anything, it's not as if the liberals and the media are all going to admit he got screwed. None of them will admit that (you might, I mean the politicians and people on TV).

The reason for a deadline is that if he fails, they need to get someone else in before the midterms. If Trump makes another nomination, you can bet it will be that Catholic woman, can't recall her name. Feinstein hates her, Trump will pick her for that reason alone.

PaulS
09-24-2018, 01:53 PM
I agree, do an investigation, I just think it's a sham because if the FBI concludes he didn't do anything, it's not as if the liberals and the media are all going to admit he got screwed. None of them will admit that (you might, I mean the politicians and people on TV).

You don't know that but if an investigation occurs, then you can rightfully say "what more did you want to happen?"

The reason for a deadline is that if he fails, they need to get someone else in before the midterms. If Trump makes another nomination, you can bet it will be that Catholic woman, can't recall her name. Feinstein hates her, Trump will pick her for that reason alone.

Coney Barrett (I think)???

They don't "need" to get someone bf the midterms, they "want" to get someone before the midterms.

I thought it was they wanted someone before the start of the next supreme court session which I thought starts Oct 1??

Jim in CT
09-24-2018, 02:13 PM
Coney Barrett (I think)???

They don't "need" to get someone bf the midterms, they "want" to get someone before the midterms.

I thought it was they wanted someone before the start of the next supreme court session which I thought starts Oct 1??

"You don't know that "

I know what happened to Clarence Thomas after the FBI found nothing...and we are a LOT more polarized now.

"Coney Barrett (I think)???"

I think that's right.

'They don't "need" to get someone bf the midterms, they "want" to get someone before the midterms."

True, I desperately want someone conservative in there, before the midterms, although I feel there's little chance the dems take the senate. If the whole senate was up for re-election that would be different, but the GOP got amazingly lucky with which seats are up.

"I thought it was they wanted someone before the start of the next supreme court session which I thought starts Oct 1?? "

That could be too, that's an astute guess.

scottw
09-25-2018, 02:38 AM
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The reason for a deadline is ....


the reason for a deadline is lunatic democrats have no interest in fairness or process...they have organized from the beginning to prevent and ensure that Kavanaugh is never confirmed by any means necessary and will continue to do so if they are not stopped......censure feinstein, censure hiromo.... hold the vote....

wdmso
09-25-2018, 04:09 AM
And i like my bigger paycheck and insane IRA balance.

And I like how he's sticking by Kavanaugh, I do admire that. Trump could care less.


thanks you just made my point

its like being friends with a wife beater .. because he's a good fisherman...

you cant have it both ways .. but you still try .. one day you dont like him now you Admire him:eyes:

Jim in CT
09-25-2018, 05:46 AM
thanks you just made my point

its like being friends with a wife beater .. because he's a good fisherman...

you cant have it both ways .. but you still try .. one day you dont like him now you Admire him:eyes:

So I am a constant, bling Trump apologist? That's what you're saying? I never criticize him? Sorry, I thought you knew how to read.

"you cant have it both ways"

Not trying to have it both ways. Trump is a horrible person. That doesn't mean there aren't a small number of things I can admire. I admire his loyalty to Kavanaugh.

Bill Clinton was also a lying snake. But he did great things with the economy.

You are the one who is off, because you think it's all or nothing. Because Trump is (on balance) not a good guy, you think that means that there can't be any good qualities about him. Life isn't that simple.

Pete F.
09-25-2018, 07:35 AM
I think if they don't replace Kavanaugh, but ram him thru and Congress flips in the midterms, they will move to impeach Kavanaugh.........and Thomas
Then refuse to hold a hearing for any replacements

scottw
09-25-2018, 07:52 AM
I think if they don't replace Kavanaugh, but ram him thru and Congress flips in the midterms, they will move to impeach Kavanaugh.........and Thomas



based on what?

Fishpart
09-25-2018, 08:00 AM
Interestingly enough there is only one person in this case who has not testified under oath....THE ACCUSER

I hope this type of legal abuse never happens to you or your sons...

scottw
09-25-2018, 08:12 AM
Trump is a horrible person.

we were told repeatedly that clinton could be a sexual predator(horrible person) in his personal life and still be a great president

the same people chanting "i support her" now were chanting " let he who is without sin cast the first stone" during the clinton years


I think it's great that the democraps and media accomplices decided to show America just how despicable they can be right before an important election :claps:

they probably think they are winning :jester:

PaulS
09-25-2018, 08:21 AM
Interestingly enough there is only one person in this case who has not testified under oath....THE ACCUSER

I hope this type of legal abuse never happens to you or your sons...

I know you usually make a post and then never come back to defend it when people question it but isn't the answer to have the FBI investigate as all parties will be under oath - right?

Is the abuse that someone makes a claim and people can have the FBI investigate it and yet they refuse to do it?

Jim in CT
09-25-2018, 08:23 AM
I think if they don't replace Kavanaugh, but ram him thru and Congress flips in the midterms, they will move to impeach Kavanaugh.........and Thomas
Then refuse to hold a hearing for any replacements

So to the liberals here, a mere allegation is enough? Do any of you remember Al Sharpton and the Tawanna Brawley case? Or the Duke lacrosse players?

Sorry, in these politically charged times, a mere allegation is nowhere near enough. If no additional evidence is presented, if all we know is what we now know, he's going to get confirmed.

There's a great chance the dems take the house, so they can make a big show of impeachment. Impeachment requires a two-thirds vote in the Senate, and that will never happen. Never.

Yes, I think the dems should vote to impeach Kavanaugh and Thomas, and explain to the voters why none of them even mentions the name "Keith Ellison".

Here's a fascinating, crazy idea. How about we talk about whether or not any of Kavanaugh's judicial rulings were wrong on the law, or constitutionally un-sound? Does that factor into this, at all?

Worst case scenario, if the withdraw Kavanaugh (hopefully not before more evidence comes to light), they'll nominate Barrett. There is no way that seat is vacant going into the midterms. If Jeb Bush was POTUS, maybe the democrats could bully him into waiting. Not this guy. They still, after two years, have absolutely no idea who they're dealing with. They think they can slap him around the way they did to Bush, McCain, Romney, etc. Trump isn't them.

Jim in CT
09-25-2018, 08:26 AM
we were told repeatedly that clinton could be a sexual predator(horrible person) in his personal life and still be a great president

the same people chanting "i support her" now were chanting " let he who is without sin cast the first stone" during the clinton years


I think it's great that the democraps and media accomplices decided to show America just how despicable they can be right before an important election :claps:

they probably think they are winning :jester:

Scott, with this issue, the entire left has shown itself to be the fringe they are. Did you see what happened to Ted Cruz and his wife at a DC restaurant? They were driven out by protestors. He was with his wife. But they are going to lecture me about chivalry?

Sadly, I am not sure they aren't winning. A fox poll shows more voters disbelieve Kavanaugh than believe him. We'll know in a few weeks.

Jim in CT
09-25-2018, 08:27 AM
I know you usually make a post and then never come back to defend it when people question it but isn't the answer to have the FBI investigate as all parties will be under oath - right?

Is the abuse that someone makes a claim and people can have the FBI investigate it and yet they refuse to do it?

Who is the "they" that refuse an FBI investigation? Who is it, that you think can tell the FBI what to do? That's on Trump. Kavanaugh doesn't have the authority to launch an FBI investigation.

If only Feinstein had bothered to mention this to the FBI when they were already investigating him.

scottw
09-25-2018, 08:35 AM
Scott, with this issue, the entire left has shown itself to be the fringe they are. Did you see what happened to Ted Cruz and his wife at a DC restaurant? They were driven out by protestors. He was with his wife. But they are going to lecture me about chivalry?

Sadly, I am not sure they aren't winning. A fox poll shows more voters disbelieve Kavanaugh than believe him. We'll know in a few weeks.

apparently a lot of democrat protesters can't find jobs in the trump recovery

yeah but fox viewers are stupid

PaulS
09-25-2018, 09:03 AM
Who is the "they" that refuse an FBI investigation? Who is it, that you think can tell the FBI what to do? That's on Trump. Kavanaugh doesn't have the authority to launch an FBI investigation.

If only Feinstein had bothered to mention this to the FBI when they were already investigating him.

The Pres. can ask the FBI to investigate - but you knew that didn't you?

And you knew that Ford asked Feinstein not to release her name.

Jim in CT
09-25-2018, 09:11 AM
The Pres. can ask the FBI to investigate - but you knew that didn't you?

And you knew that Ford asked Feinstein not to release her name.

I did know that, which is why I included it in my post. You said "they", I was sincerely curious who you meant by "they".

"And you knew that Ford asked Feinstein not to release her name"

yes, and I know that didn't stop the democrats from leaking her name to the press when it suited them. And I know that Feinstein could have asked them to look into the claim, without revealing the name, she could have said look into an allegation of assault from high school.

Jim in CT
09-25-2018, 09:12 AM
apparently a lot of democrat protesters can't find jobs in the trump recovery

yeah but fox viewers are stupid

Fox also said that Hilary was going to win big, so I'm skeptical about all pollsters where Trump is concerned. We'll soon see. I really hope you're right, and that the democrats went too far, and awakened a sleeping giant.

Fishpart
09-25-2018, 11:22 AM
I know you usually make a post and then never come back to defend it when people question it but isn't the answer to have the FBI investigate as all parties will be under oath - right?

Is the abuse that someone makes a claim and people can have the FBI investigate it and yet they refuse to do it?

Was only sharing facts, why do facts need defense? Fiend stein should have requested an FBI investigation when her office received the letter in July.

PaulS
09-25-2018, 12:10 PM
Was only sharing facts, why do facts need defense? Fiend stein Are you trying to make fun of a Jewish name?should have requested an FBI investigation when her office received the letter in July.

The way you presented "facts" was a way to make it seems the she is lying. That is pathetic. You don't know more than anyone else. The only one who can request a FBI investigation is Trump and he has shown no inclination to do so - why do you think that is?

And what is this "legal abuse" you're complaining about?

Stick around for a while.

scottw
09-25-2018, 12:24 PM
The only one who can request a FBI investigation is Trump and he has shown no inclination to do so - why do you think that is?



because he's CRAZY!!!

scottw
09-25-2018, 12:25 PM
Fiend stein... Are you trying to make fun of a Jewish name?



go ahead....you know you want to...:hee:

Fishpart
09-25-2018, 12:38 PM
No.....

Sea Dangles
09-25-2018, 05:03 PM
Why would somebody make fun of a name? That is hurtful
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