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Ian
10-11-2018, 06:16 PM
Kanye is bat#^&#^&#^&#^& crazy...

Nebe
10-11-2018, 06:28 PM
Was he on mushrooms?
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Ian
10-11-2018, 09:08 PM
Was he on mushrooms?
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Opioids?
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Pete F.
10-11-2018, 09:51 PM
Isn’t he bipolar?
I thought that’s what he said in that performance in the Oval Office
If that’s correct he sounds more like he’s quit taking his meds
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Sea Dangles
10-11-2018, 09:55 PM
Shocking, he seems so stable.
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Ian
10-11-2018, 10:37 PM
All I know is that I want me one of them hydrogen powered iPlanes... tomorrow
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PaulS
10-12-2018, 07:57 AM
Remember the good ole days when it was considered not respecting the oval office when a Pres. wore brown suits and put their shoes up on the desk.

Oh the hypocrisy.

Jim in CT
10-12-2018, 08:53 AM
Remember the good ole days when it was considered not respecting the oval office when a Pres. wore brown suits and put their shoes up on the desk.

Oh the hypocrisy.

And who said that exactly? And about whom?

PaulS
10-12-2018, 08:55 AM
All those petty Repub. who use to complain about every little thing Obama did but now are strangely silent.

Sea Dangles
10-12-2018, 09:49 AM
All those petty Repub. who use to complain about every little thing Obama did but now are strangely silent.

Tell us when you criticized Obama one time. I understand the buffoon with orange hair makes himself an easy target for all,especially #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s. Do you honestly expect the republicans to pig pile on something so trivial?
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PaulS
10-12-2018, 10:14 AM
Mr Irrelevant

DZ
10-12-2018, 10:30 AM
West is colorful for sure. Very bold for b#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g the trend in the music industry where he could very easily be "black listed". Wasn't he the darling of the left a few years back when he criticized President Bush?

Sea Dangles
10-12-2018, 10:31 AM
So I answer the question and that’s the best you offer? That’s a typical #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& discussion I guess. No real response or insight just the typical nonsense. The #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s are obviously running out of bullets and will go down with the ship voiceless.
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PaulS
10-12-2018, 10:51 AM
West is colorful for sure. Very bold for b#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g the trend in the music industry where he could very easily be "black listed". Wasn't he the darling of the left a few years back when he criticized President Bush?

Not sure if he was or wasn't. But the right hates hollywood until an actor/celeb. is on the right, then they love celebs.

Funny though to see how the rights so called "morals" got erroded so quick w/this Pres.

DZ
10-12-2018, 11:17 AM
Not sure if he was or wasn't. But the right hates hollywood until an actor/celeb. is on the right, then they love celebs.

Funny though to see how the rights so called "morals" got erroded so quick w/this Pres.

Paul,
I think many on the right have a problem with Hollywood because the Hollywood establishment will not accept any of their own brothers/sisters who do not walk in lock step with the establishment. Same in the music industry.

PaulS
10-12-2018, 11:38 AM
That is the problem the right has w/Hollywood? It has nothing to do w/the movies they put on or the song lyrics? And I'm sure which way they lean politically has nothing to do with it.

Aaarnold and Clint seem to have done pretty well in Hollywood.

Got Stripers
10-12-2018, 12:00 PM
IMHO that nut doesn't even deserve a thread, he needs better meds and to showcase him in the oval office is just nuts.

DZ
10-12-2018, 12:12 PM
That is the problem the right has w/Hollywood? It has nothing to do w/the movies they put on or the song lyrics? And I'm sure which way they lean politically has nothing to do with it.

Aaarnold and Clint seem to have done pretty well in Hollywood.

Of course there are exceptions Paul - come on you're smarter than that.
I said many - not all.

PaulS
10-12-2018, 12:52 PM
What I am is smart enough to realize that the problem the right has with Hollywood and other celebrities has nothing to do with their view that the Hollywood folks don't like anybody who doesn't walk in lockstep with them.
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Sea Dangles
10-12-2018, 01:33 PM
Paul has it all figured out. All by himself too.
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Jim in CT
10-12-2018, 01:57 PM
Aaarnold and Clint seem to have done pretty well in Hollywood.
so hollywood does not tilt left, that’s what you’re saying? seriously?
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PaulS
10-12-2018, 02:40 PM
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying they tilt left and that's partly why the right hates them so.
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Pete F.
10-12-2018, 08:34 PM
Isn’t he bipolar?
I thought that’s what he said in that performance in the Oval Office
If that’s correct he sounds more like he’s quit taking his meds
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I read the transcript
He either needs to take a nap or........
He’s just bat#^&#^&#^&#^& crazy
West: Again – so what I think is, we don’t need sentences; we need pardons.#^&We need to talk to people.#^& I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder.#^&I was connected with a neuropsychologist that works with the athletes in the NBA and the NFL.#^&And he looked at my brain – it’s equal on three parts.#^&I’m going to go ahead drop some bombs for you – 98 percentile IQ test.#^& I had a 75 percentile of all human beings, but it was counting eight numbers backwards, (inaudible), so I’m going to work on that one.#^&The other ones, 98 percent – Tesla, Freud.#^&
So he said that I actually wasn’t bipolar; I had sleep deprivation, which could cause dementia 10 to 20 years from now, where I wouldn’t even remember my son’s name.#^&So all this power that I got, and I’m taking my son to the Sox game and all that, I wouldn’t be able to remember his name from a misdiagnosage.#^&
And what we need is, we can empower the pharmaceuticals and make more money.#^&That’s one thing – I’ve never stepped into a situation where I didn’t make people more money.#^&So we can empower pharmaceuticals, we can empower our industries, we can empower our factories.#^&We can bring not only Adidas onshore, we can bring – Foxconn has set up a factory in, I think, Minnesota.
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Nebe
10-12-2018, 10:11 PM
I still want to know.. was he on mushrooms?!?
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The Dad Fisherman
10-12-2018, 10:23 PM
I still want to know.. was he on mushrooms?!?
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Very possibly
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scottw
10-13-2018, 03:34 AM
it gave the left something to shriek about for a few days :rotflmao:

if he'd insulted and impugned trump the same people would be singing his praises...so who's crazy?

wdmso
10-13-2018, 03:50 AM
West went to the white house so Trump could say See I have a Black Friend .. it's no deeper than that Ask yourself why else would the White house turn it into a media event not a private visit ? Bill Maher called it .... Trumps bread and circuses

scottw
10-13-2018, 04:47 AM
Ask yourself why else would the White house turn it into a media event not a private visit ? Bill Maher called it .... Trumps bread and circuses

ummmm....because most celebrity white house visits are media events

racist if you do racist if you don't

bill maher is an ahole

Jim in CT
10-13-2018, 06:18 AM
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying they tilt left and that's partly why the right hates them so.
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saying hollywood tilts left is like saying sean hannity tilts right. conservatives don’t dislike everyone who is liberal. hollywood is often really offensive and inflammatory about it, and that’s why conservatives don’t like them.
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Jim in CT
10-13-2018, 06:27 AM
Ask yourself why else would the White house turn it into a media event not a private visit ?

two years in, and you still don’t get it.

if he made the visit private, Trump would not have had the pleasure of watching the left, once again, humiliate themselves with their foaming-at-mouth response to West, as we all could have predicted they would. He played liberals, and as usual, they fell for it.

Respected TV hosts and pundits on the left, have helped Trump by going bonkers again, saying West is what happens when negroes don’t read, saying it was a minstrel show, saying that he’s a token black, saying that he’s crazy, one college professor on msnbc saying it was trump engaging in white nationalism using west as a ventriloquist dummy.

Trump felt like goading the left into wearing their tin foil hats in public again, and as usual, they fell for it. When trump says “ here kitty kitty” to you people and then annihilates you when you come to him, how many times does that happen before you learn? for gods sake, even a baby eventually learns not to touch the hot stove.

All he has to do is push a button to make them implode. He says MS-13 are animals, and two seconds later there’s Nancy Pelosi saying that MS-13 are all Gods children. you couldn’t be making it easier for him to manipulate you. It’s not helping. Have you seen the bounce that the GOP got from the Kavanaugh spectacle? It was the nail in the coffin of any hopes the democrats had of taking the senate. Not only did Trump get Kavanaugh confirmed, he sealed the deal in the GOP keeping the senate, meaning they can pack federal courts with conservative judges for two more years. It was a disaster for the left, but they learned nothing, they’d do the same thing tomorrow. They are so obsessed with hating Trump, they are blind and oblivious to everything else. Trump knows this, and has been using it to his advantage, clubbing your side with it like a baby seal, for two years. He’s completely manipulating the left. He knows he can use their insane hatred for him, to lead them around by the nose. It’s hysterical. He’s playing chess, and the left still, two years later, thinks he’s playing checkers. Trump is a buffoon, but he’s playing the left like a violin.

If the left could bring themselves to calmly say “we respect Kanye’s right to express his opinion. But we think he’s wrong, and here’s why...”. If they could
do that, that would be a win for them. But they can’t. And Trump was counting on that. They can’t make West wrong when he says that liberalism has contributed to black fatherlessness, and god
knows they will never admit the other side is right. So they go low with disgusting racist attacks. Every single time.

They did exactly what Trump wanted them to do, and that’s why he did it publicly. To show everyone how ugly and hate filled the liberal
media is, three weeks before the election. Maybe that helps save a house seat or two for the GOP.

He’s a master at getting them to humiliate themselves. And no matter how many times he does it, they don’t see it.


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Ian
10-13-2018, 06:42 AM
...so who's crazy?

It’s clearly still Kanye...
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The Dad Fisherman
10-13-2018, 09:06 AM
West went to the white house so Trump could say See I have a Black Friend .. it's no deeper than that Ask yourself why else would the White house turn it into a media event not a private visit ? Bill Maher called it .... Trumps bread and circuses

Maybe it would have been better if they just had beers in the garden.
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PaulS
10-13-2018, 11:11 AM
saying hollywood tilts left is like saying sean hannity tilts right. conservatives don’t dislike everyone who is liberal. hollywood is often really offensive and inflammatory about it, and that’s why conservatives don’t like them.
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That was your word not mine. But when Nugent says something offense and inflammatory in the white house it's okay?
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Jim in CT
10-13-2018, 01:16 PM
That was your word not mine. But when Nugent says something offense and inflammatory in the white house it's okay?
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no it’s never ok. but 95 percent
of the political nonsense from hollywood, is liberals taking shots at conservatives. are liberals
going berserk that weinstein’s trial is going well for him?
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PaulS
10-13-2018, 02:55 PM
You're right it's never okay but the classless Ted Nugent was welcomed to the White House by the classless Donald Trump
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The Dad Fisherman
10-13-2018, 03:21 PM
How many times did Al Sharpton visit the White House? He’s a classless ass as well
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wdmso
10-14-2018, 05:03 AM
To show everyone how ugly and hate filled the liberal
media is, three weeks before the election.

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Again you show how in love you are with Trump .. your a fan just admit it .. he has you convinced his actions are for Liberals ,,,, But they are for YOU ... and your long response just reinforced that observation ... He is a conservative pied piper you just think he leading away liberals but its you dancing to his tune ..

Sea Dangles
10-14-2018, 06:47 AM
Jim is watching the dance. The dancers are the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s.
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PaulS
10-14-2018, 08:54 AM
How many times did Al Sharpton visit the White House? He’s a classless ass as well
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Agreed
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Ian
10-14-2018, 10:22 AM
Jim is watching the dance. The dancers are the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s.
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What’s the polar opposite? conservitard?
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spence
10-14-2018, 03:02 PM
What’s the polar opposite? conservitard?
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It doesn’t really matter. Every few days he just has to check in and remind everyone of his maturity.
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Sea Dangles
10-14-2018, 03:29 PM
It doesn’t really matter. Every few days he just has to check in and remind everyone of his maturity.
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Keep dancing Jeff
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Pete F.
10-14-2018, 05:20 PM
What’s the polar opposite? conservitard?
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Trumplicans
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Jim in CT
10-14-2018, 06:59 PM
Again you show how in love you are with Trump .. your a fan just admit it .. he has you convinced his actions are for Liberals ,,,, But they are for YOU ... and your long response just reinforced that observation ... He is a conservative pied piper you just think he leading away liberals but its you dancing to his tune ..

I think it's HYSTERICAL the way he gets in the heads of liberals. I also like much of his policy.

Unemployment at a 49-year low. Are you opposed to that, or do you give all the credit to Obama?

spence
10-14-2018, 07:41 PM
I think it's HYSTERICAL the way he gets in the heads of liberals. I also like much of his policy.

Unemployment at a 49-year low. Are you opposed to that, or do you give all the credit to Obama?
Jim, if your kids behaved like Trump does how would you feel as a parent?
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wdmso
10-15-2018, 02:56 AM
I also like much of his policy.

Unemployment at a 49-year low. Are you opposed to that, or do you give all the credit to Obama?


like Trump: Climate change scientists have 'political agenda'


low unemployment is a good thing but that rate hasn't translated into wages or better paying jobs what sectors are they? are we just seeing more minimum wage jobs

Walmart still has 20 cash out lines and any given day only 3 are open?

I think it's HYSTERICAL now you and Trump believe the unemployment numbers

scottw
10-15-2018, 04:08 AM
Jim, if your kids behaved like Trump does how would you feel as a parent?
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not nearly as bad as if they behaved like Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Harry Reid, that chick from Hawaii, Sheldon Whitehouse, Blunenthal etc....those kids would get smacked a lot :laugha:

Jim in CT
10-15-2018, 06:21 AM
Jim, if your kids behaved like Trump does how would you feel as a parent?
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i have made my position very clear regarding his behavior, it’s disgusting. So is the behavior of his opponent who he annihilated.

The irony, is that it’s your sides inability to treat a republican nominee with anything approaching civility, which made it necessary to nominate Trump. If the leftt would discuss the merits of people’s pisitions rather than calling everyone who disagrees with them a racist, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

I answered your question exactly as it was asked. So here’s one for you. Are we better off with historically low unemployment, and how are you enjoying your tax cut?
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Jim in CT
10-15-2018, 06:22 AM
like Trump: Climate change scientists have 'political agenda'


low unemployment is a good thing but that rate hasn't translated into wages or better paying jobs what sectors are they? are we just seeing more minimum wage jobs

Walmart still has 20 cash out lines and any given day only 3 are open?

I think it's HYSTERICAL now you and Trump believe the unemployment numbers

i gave obama credit all the time for lowering unemployment. i’m not a hypocrite.
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scottw
10-15-2018, 10:54 AM
The irony, is that it’s your sides inability to treat a republican nominee with anything approaching civility

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well hillary said the democrats only need to be civil after they win...soooo

spence
10-15-2018, 11:29 AM
i have made my position very clear regarding his behavior, it’s disgusting. So is the behavior of his opponent who he annihilated.
You just said above you think he's funny, hilarious actually. He didn't annihilate Clinton either, you're version of events seems to flow right from Trump's mouth. Have you noticed you are parroting him more and more every day?

I answered your question exactly as it was asked. So here’s one for you. Are we better off with historically low unemployment, and how are you enjoying your tax cut?
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It would have been easy to give me a tax cut without giving away billions to corporations who are passing most of it to shareholders and not repatriating cash...not to mention the debt.

scottw
10-15-2018, 11:37 AM
He didn't annihilate Clinton either



she got her pantsuit kicked pretty soundly

The Dad Fisherman
10-15-2018, 12:53 PM
He didn't annihilate Clinton


I think there is a word in the english language for a person who didn't win. Oh yeah, its "Loser".

Maybe she got a participation trophy.

or a banner in her house that says "2016 Election Finalist"

Jim in CT
10-15-2018, 12:53 PM
You just said above you think he's funny, hilarious actually. He didn't annihilate Clinton either, you're version of events seems to flow right from Trump's mouth. Have you noticed you are parroting him more and more every day?


It would have been easy to give me a tax cut without giving away billions to corporations who are passing most of it to shareholders and not repatriating cash...not to mention the debt.

"You just said above you think he's funny"

I said that what's funny, is the liberal reaction to him...read it again. His behavior is often embarrassing, but it's not what you folks are claiming, either. Every time he opens his mouth or moves a muscle, the left obsesses and fusses over it endlessly. That is what's hysterical to me. And his ability to bait them into acting like maniacs. MS-13 are all God's children, how dare he call them animals! Presumption of innocence, what's that, never heard of it?

"He didn't annihilate Clinton either"

It was an electoral drubbing.

"Have you noticed you are parroting him more and more every day?"

Nope.

"It would have been easy to give me a tax cut without giving away billions to corporations "

True. But the corporate tax cut will help many of us, not just the wealthy. 20,000 new jobs at Apple, for example.

"not to mention the debt"

That is a valid point, and interestingly, not a concern you had from 2009-2016. Why the shift, I wonder? Wouldn't be politically motivated hypocrisy, would it?

scottw
10-15-2018, 12:54 PM
I think there is a word in the english language for a person who didn't win. Oh yeah, its "Loser".

Maybe she got a participation trophy.

or a banner in her house that says "2016 Election Finalist"

I'm picturing spence dancing around his hillary shrine in a loin cloth...is that weird?

Jim in CT
10-15-2018, 12:56 PM
I think there is a word in the english language for a person who didn't win. Oh yeah, its "Loser".

"

Wasn't long ago that she and Bill got hundreds of thousands of dollars for a 30 minute speech. Now, they are going on the angry pervert tour with a stop at the Oakdale theater in Wallingford CT, which holds a few more people than a kindergarten classroom. Next year, they will be doing infommercials for pressure cookers. Boy, how the mighty have fallen.

RIROCKHOUND
10-15-2018, 12:57 PM
I'm picturing spence dancing around his hillary shrine in a loin cloth...is that weird?

Yes.
Very weird.

The Dad Fisherman
10-15-2018, 01:13 PM
Yes.
Very weird.

Yeah, not a visual I want in my head either
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Cool Beans
10-15-2018, 01:22 PM
I stay away from the political page for a while and the first thing I see when I open a page is Spence in a loincloth dancing around a Hillary shrine.... You guys are batty as Crazy Uncle Joe Biden.........

PaulS
10-15-2018, 01:57 PM
The irony, is that it’s your sides inability to treat a republican nominee with anything approaching civility, which made it necessary to nominate Trump.
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Now more proof how low some Repubs. can go. Try taking Warren's heritage away in addition to lying about Obama's religion and birthplace and yet you continue with the same old line about how bad the Dems. treat Repubs.

Maybe at the next Trump rally there can be chants of "Lock her up" - pathetic.

wdmso
10-15-2018, 03:19 PM
i gave obama credit all the time for lowering unemployment. i’m not a hypocrite.
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I stand corrected.. now Trumps believe the unemployment numbers

Jim in CT
10-15-2018, 05:18 PM
I stand corrected.. now Trumps believe the unemployment numbers

for the second time, i believe obama helped
lower unemployment significantly. i think trump is continuing that, and doing even better, especially with blacks.
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Jim in CT
10-15-2018, 05:19 PM
Now more proof how low some Repubs. can go. Try taking Warren's heritage away in addition to lying about Obama's religion and birthplace and yet you continue with the same old line about how bad the Dems. treat Repubs.

Maybe at the next Trump rally there can be chants of "Lock her up" - pathetic.

there’s no evidence her claims
we’re true. warren is disgusting, and that’s not a low
blow, it’s based on why she actually says and does. god i hope she’s the nominee.
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wdmso
10-16-2018, 04:37 AM
for the second time, i believe obama helped
lower unemployment significantly. i think trump is continuing that, and doing even better, especially with blacks.
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I acknowledge that all ready (hence I stand corrected )

Why do white people aka Trump supporters keep using unemployment especially with blacks. ..


black 6.6 percent high unemployment rate compared to every other major racial and ethic group in the U.S. The rate in April was 4.8 percent for Hispanics, 3.6 percent for whites and 2.7 percent for Asian-Americans.


Decades of no jobs is again ignored .. But the suggestions From Trump and you are they are good now great high paying wages ... just look at the unemployment rate ??? .. when reality on the ground is quite different

Jim in CT
10-16-2018, 08:42 AM
I acknowledge that all ready (hence I stand corrected )

Why do white people aka Trump supporters keep using unemployment especially with blacks. ..


black 6.6 percent high unemployment rate compared to every other major racial and ethic group in the U.S. The rate in April was 4.8 percent for Hispanics, 3.6 percent for whites and 2.7 percent for Asian-Americans.


Decades of no jobs is again ignored .. But the suggestions From Trump and you are they are good now great high paying wages ... just look at the unemployment rate ??? .. when reality on the ground is quite different

i bring up black unemployment because its at the lowest level ever. isn’t it worth pointing out and celebrating? seems to me, that only a very cynical, politically motivated person, would question the value in touting this achievement.

Can you please quote a post of mine, where i said that all the jobs were great with high wages? all you’re doing, is looking to poke holes in the roaring economy. because you don’t like the current POTUS.
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wdmso
10-16-2018, 03:20 PM
i bring up black unemployment because its at the lowest level ever. isn’t it worth pointing out and celebrating? seems to me, that only a very cynical, politically motivated person, would question the value in touting this achievement.

Can you please quote a post of mine, where i said that all the jobs were great with high wages? all you’re doing, is looking to poke holes in the roaring economy. because you don’t like the current POTUS.
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isn’t it worth pointing out Yes and celebrating? No everyone's unemployments rates went down

I am poking holes in the perception that somehow all is fine in the black community based on unemployment number ,, like all things are equal


The unemployment rate of African Americans decreased from 16 percent in 2010 to 7.5 percent in 2017. The general national unemployment rate was 4.4 percent
37,144,530 non-Hispanic blacks, which comprised 12.1% of the population.


Unemployment rate of the white labor force has decreased to 3.8 percent in 2017, compared to 8.7 percent in 2010 246,660,710 million or 77.35% of the population

detbuch
10-16-2018, 03:50 PM
isn’t it worth pointing out Yes and celebrating? No everyone's unemployments rates went down

I am poking holes in the perception that somehow all is fine in the black community based on unemployment number ,, like all things are equal


The unemployment rate of African Americans decreased from 16 percent in 2010 to 7.5 percent in 2017. The general national unemployment rate was 4.4 percent
37,144,530 non-Hispanic blacks, which comprised 12.1% of the population.


Unemployment rate of the white labor force has decreased to 3.8 percent in 2017, compared to 8.7 percent in 2010 246,660,710 million or 77.35% of the population

So you created a strawman and poked holes in it. Brilliant.

Jim in CT
10-16-2018, 05:33 PM
isn’t it worth pointing out Yes and celebrating? No everyone's unemployments rates went down

I am poking holes in the perception that somehow all is fine in the black community based on unemployment number ,, like all things are equal


The unemployment rate of African Americans decreased from 16 percent in 2010 to 7.5 percent in 2017. The general national unemployment rate was 4.4 percent
37,144,530 non-Hispanic blacks, which comprised 12.1% of the population.


Unemployment rate of the white labor force has decreased to 3.8 percent in 2017, compared to 8.7 percent in 2010 246,660,710 million or 77.35% of the population

"No everyone's unemployments rates went down "

Are everyone's unemployment rates the lowest ever recorded? Yes, or no?

" I am poking holes in the perception that somehow all is fine in the black community based on unemployment number"

Then you are poking holes in something that no one, anywhere. at any time, has ever said. Can you tell me who said that? Who are you responding to, exactly?

detbuch
10-16-2018, 07:41 PM
Then you are poking holes in something that no one, anywhere. at any time, has ever said. Can you tell me who said that? Who are you responding to, exactly?

He's responding to the strawman he created. He's trying very hard Jim. Give him some credit for exertion.

Ian
10-16-2018, 09:47 PM
You guys remember that this thread was supposed to be something everyone could agree on? Kanye being balls out crazy?

Somehow we managed to get all the way to Obama vs Trump’s impact on unemployment in the black population?
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detbuch
10-16-2018, 10:04 PM
You guys remember that this thread was supposed to be something everyone could agree on? Kanye being balls out crazy?

Somehow we managed to get all the way to Obama vs Trump’s impact on unemployment in the black population?


How does a balls out crazy guy become a self-made billionaire, and marry a balls out sex goddess?

Ian
10-16-2018, 10:14 PM
How does a balls out crazy guy become a self-made billionaire, and marry a balls out sex goddess?

The answer to your first is that he hasn’t always been balls out crazy

The answer to your second is that she’s just as narcicistic and mentally ill
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detbuch
10-17-2018, 02:53 AM
The answer to your first is that he hasn’t always been balls out crazy

The answer to your second is that she’s just as narcicistic and mentally ill
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I honestly don't know anything about either one of them--just whatever the media's mood of the day portrays them to be. Even at that, since I care not a whit about celebrities, and only get glimpses when a discussion about a topic I'm interested in gets a mention of them inserted, or photos and headlines shout out to me when I search and scan other topics.

So not only am I not qualified to have an opinion about how crazy or narcissistic they are, I don't even have enough info and personal contact with them to make a judgment if I were qualified.

I wasn't interested in either Kanye, or what he had to say about Trump, beyond the impact it has on the black vote. And the hullabaloo made about his White House visit prompted me to watch a video of it.

He didn't seem particularly "crazy" to me. On a daily basis, I am in contact with a lot of Blacks, often more than Whites. He resembled a type of intellectually curious young black male who is excited about discovering amazing "truths" of life that exist beyond the constricted black culture in which he has been raised. He seemed very exuberant but lacked the reserve or restraint required to look more sophisticated, or "together." To me, it looked more innocent and endearing rather than crazy.

The success he's achieved in rising above and escaping the closed minded culture of his childhood seems to have given him the confidence to publicly express his discoveries and has emboldened the belief that he can influence toward the good the larger arena of his new life beyond the old "hood." But the lack of an advanced vocabulary (as is typical of someone jumping from the language of the hood which extracts meanings from fewer words that mean a lot of different things, depending on mood and context) probably made him appear to be goofy when he tried to speak his ideas in the political and social arena that requires a more precise diction.

I suppose, having seen a lot of attempts by young blacks trying to sound more sophisticated then they are, and not having the right words to pull it off (and often having the same difficulty myself), I get where they're coming from. And, probably, so do a lot of blacks (obviously not the Don Lemon types) many of whom may be persuaded to support Trump. Which, I think, the black Lemons are afraid of. And who probably perfectly well understood What Kanye said, and so must ridicule it to lessen its effect.

wdmso
10-17-2018, 04:24 AM
the west incident at the white house The constant mententioning of black unemployment are not accidental.. thats Trumps straw man .. if you can see that message .. your a Fan boy no if but about it ..


there are many articles who see the same thing.. shocking ..


Trump has spent months boasting that black unemployment has fallen during his presidency, pointing to the numbers as proof his policies are benefiting all Americans and to try to deflect the accusations of racism and bigotry that surround him and his administration.

About 30% of Kansas City’s population is black. Every month, seemingly, Donald Trump uses Twitter to trumpet how well black people have done under his presidency.

Blue Hills is 91% African American and the unemployment rate is 17%. Neighbouring Ivanhoe is 86% African American and the unemployment rate is even higher, at 26%.

Jim in CT
10-17-2018, 05:25 AM
the west incident at the white house The constant mententioning of black unemployment are not accidental.. thats Trumps straw man .. if you can see that message .. your a Fan boy no if but about it ..


there are many articles who see the same thing.. shocking ..


Trump has spent months boasting that black unemployment has fallen during his presidency, pointing to the numbers as proof his policies are benefiting all Americans and to try to deflect the accusations of racism and bigotry that surround him and his administration.

About 30% of Kansas City’s population is black. Every month, seemingly, Donald Trump uses Twitter to trumpet how well black people have done under his presidency.

Blue Hills is 91% African American and the unemployment rate is 17%. Neighbouring Ivanhoe is 86% African American and the unemployment rate is even higher, at 26%.

oh, it’s a straw man that black unemployment is low? Tell me more...
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detbuch
10-17-2018, 10:53 AM
oh, it’s a straw man that black unemployment is low? Tell me more...
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His giving it a herculean attempt. Give him an A for effort. It takes a lot of work to dig up the right articles and angles that slant in the left direction.

Notice how, even after Ian's reminder of what the subject of this thread is, he smoothly slides West's name from being about his craziness to being about unemployment. And that is somehow a strawman for something.

It's like he is a fanboy about that something . . . whatever that is.

fishbones
10-17-2018, 11:51 AM
There’s an elephant in the room and no one is acknowledging it.
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wdmso
10-19-2018, 04:03 AM
In reality there is not much we can agree on as Americans



http://www.people-press.org/2018/10/15/little-partisan-agreement-on-the-pressing-problems-facing-the-u-s/graphic1-7/

Jim in CT
10-19-2018, 05:58 AM
His giving it a herculean attempt. Give him an A for effort. It takes a lot of work to dig up the right articles and angles that slant in the left direction.

Notice how, even after Ian's reminder of what the subject of this thread is, he smoothly slides West's name from being about his craziness to being about unemployment. And that is somehow a strawman for something.

It's like he is a fanboy about that something . . . whatever that is.

looks like you truly resent the fact that black unemployment is at historical lows, that really seems to be bothering you. if you think that’s all he can point to, you’re wrong. overall unemployment is at a 50 year low, the stock market is up nicely since january 2017, gdp growth was awesome last quarter ( third quarter number comes out next week), and most of us have a little more spending money in our pockets, and every single person who works in the private sector, works for a company that’s more profitable thanks to the corporate tax cuts.

obviously, we have serious problems that need to be addressed. But as much as i despise the guy, he has done a lot of good things. sure would be nice if he could stop being a vindictive baby, but i didn’t vote for him to date my mom, i voted for results. if he wants to go on tv and make fun of me for being bald and chubby, but my IRA is still going up, then i don’t care about my feelings. I don’t need to rely on the potus to make me feel good about myself, i rely on my POTUS to keep us safe and to help the economy. He has to get at least an A- on those topics.

I’m stunned by how often he wins. Stormy Daniels starts a go fund me page to help her sue Trump for defamation, and people donate. Well she loses and is ordered to pay Trumps legal fees, so the Trump haters who donated to her, some of their money will go to Trump. You can’t make that up.

Everybody thinks they are going to be the one that beats him, and 95% of the time they end up with egg in their face and step on a rake on their way out the door which shoots up and hits them in the face. I’m curious to know if he’s personally engineering this strategy, or if he has some genius doing it for him. Is there a secret cabinet position called “secretary of making liberals make azzes of themselves”? if there is, he deserves a huge, huge raise.
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JohnR
10-19-2018, 07:13 AM
You guys remember that this thread was supposed to be something everyone could agree on? Kanye being balls out crazy?

Somehow we managed to get all the way to Obama vs Trump’s impact on unemployment in the black population?
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It's Trump's fault ; )

The answer to your first is that he hasn’t always been balls out crazy

The answer to your second is that she’s just as narcicistic and mentally ill
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^^^^ Ding Ding Ding

detbuch
10-19-2018, 10:48 AM
The answer to your first is that he hasn’t always been balls out crazy


So Trump made him balls out crazy. Trump does that to a lot of people.