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FishermanTim 10-15-2018, 09:28 AM She claims to have DNA test results that prove that she is part Indian...but at 1/16 - 1/32, does that constitute enough for her to claim that heritage as her racial makeup?
...maybe the remaining 15/16 - 31/32 is just pure crap????
Of course she used a "reputable" DNA testing facility, probably one that they advertise on TV, you know, the ones with that great level of accuracy (wink, wink)....
With that level of idiocy, we should ALL be allowed to claim minority status when applying for ANYTHING.
She continues top prove just how much of a joke she really is!
The Dad Fisherman 10-15-2018, 10:03 AM In her defense, Trump has been poking her lately about it.
Still can’t stand the woman though.
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PaulS 10-15-2018, 10:11 AM I think you get the award for most miserable person. Have you ever posted anything positive about anything?
Sea Dangles 10-15-2018, 10:11 AM Hero of the stupid
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Pete F. 10-15-2018, 10:14 AM It pretty much fits her family tale as she told it.
Maybe Don the Con will pay up, Of course he says he didn't say it (never mind the video) then he could take a test to prove he's Swedish as he once claimed, provide the tax returns to prove he only got a small loan of one million or any tax return at all.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/10/15/warren-addresses-native-american-issue/YEUaGzsefB0gPBe2AbmSVO/story.html
Pete F. 10-15-2018, 10:18 AM Hero of the stupid
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNXgjnBpxGI
scottw 10-15-2018, 11:01 AM :kewl:
"When she came to Harvard Law School, she was — believe it or not — considered by some to be a “minority hire.” She listed herself as a minority on a legal directory reviewed by deans and hiring committees. The University of Pennsylvania “listed her as a minority faculty member,” and she was touted after her hire at Harvard Law School as, yes, the school’s “first woman of color.”
spence 10-15-2018, 11:18 AM She claims to have DNA test results that prove that she is part Indian...but at 1/16 - 1/32, does that constitute enough for her to claim that heritage as her racial makeup?
Yes it can, my Native American share is a lot less than that and I'm a member of the Cherokee tribe.
RIROCKHOUND 10-15-2018, 11:26 AM Yes it can, my Native American share is a lot less than that and I'm a member of the Cherokee tribe.
Does that make you eligible for the best dressed Native American lists? :hidin:
scottw 10-15-2018, 11:38 AM my Native American share is a lot less than that
we already knew that you are a bigger fraud than Liawatha :hihi:
Sea Dangles 10-15-2018, 11:45 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNXgjnBpxGI
Hero of the A whole.
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Let the hate fill you. I’m sure all of you guys thrive on it.
And for the mental midgets who can’t grasp this. She was probably told by her parents that a distant grandparent was an Indian. A family story that was passed down. The DNA test proves that she was correct.
Sorry. Try again ....on a new hateful subject.
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Sea Dangles 10-15-2018, 12:44 PM Let the hate fill you. I’m sure all of you guys thrive on it.
And for the mental midgets who can’t grasp this. She was probably told by her parents that a distant grandparent was an Indian. A family story that was passed down. The DNA test proves that she was correct.
Sorry. Try again ....on a new hateful subject.
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Darth Vader?
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scottw 10-15-2018, 12:48 PM Let the hate fill you.
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I'm pretty sure I have more native american "share" than spence and fauxcohontas combined.... using whatever tiny, distant trace that may or may not exist to claim some minority or person of color status is pretty shameful....she's smart enough to know that
Jim in CT 10-15-2018, 12:48 PM :kewl:
"When she came to Harvard Law School, she was — believe it or not — considered by some to be a “minority hire.” She listed herself as a minority on a legal directory reviewed by deans and hiring committees. The University of Pennsylvania “listed her as a minority faculty member,” and she was touted after her hire at Harvard Law School as, yes, the school’s “first woman of color.”
Well Scott, if the Boston Globe says it's possible she's 1/1024th Native American, than that's good enough for me!
Got Stripers 10-15-2018, 01:34 PM Christ if this were a sandbox, your own mothers wouldn't recognize you thru all the sand covering you from constant fighting. I may have different political views than some, but I refuse to get down to the level this board seems to live in lately.
Who cares - all she really has to do is "identify as an American Indian" and society should be OK with it ;)
PaulS 10-15-2018, 01:44 PM Who gets the million?
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spence 10-15-2018, 02:14 PM I'm pretty sure I have more native american "share" than spence and fauxcohontas combined.... using whatever tiny, distant trace that may or may not exist to claim some minority or person of color status is pretty shameful....she's smart enough to know that
Funny though you can't cite any evidence she ever claimed native status with the intent to get a benefit nor can you cite any evidence she ever received any benefit.
Sea Dangles 10-15-2018, 02:40 PM Funny though you can't cite any evidence she ever claimed native status with the intent to get a benefit nor can you cite any evidence she ever received any benefit.
Did you need evidence to find Kavanaugh guilty Jeff? Can’t I just say it and then it is real?
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spence 10-15-2018, 02:48 PM Did you need evidence to find Kavanaugh guilty Jeff? Can’t I just say it and then it is real?
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Testimony under sworn oath is evidence.
scottw 10-15-2018, 02:51 PM Funny though you can't cite any evidence she ever claimed native status with the intent to get a benefit nor can you cite any evidence she ever received any benefit.
did I use the word benefit?
The Dad Fisherman 10-15-2018, 02:57 PM Testimony under sworn oath is evidence.
Of his innocence or his guilt??? Because he swore under oath he didn't do it.
are they both evidence, or only the one you like to believe?
Pete F. 10-15-2018, 02:59 PM Did you need evidence to find Kavanaugh guilty Jeff? Can’t I just say it and then it is real?
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I think they have a pretty good model called firehose of falsehood
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The Dad Fisherman 10-15-2018, 03:02 PM did I use the word benefit?
Spence sure does love that word "Intent"
Jim in CT 10-15-2018, 03:02 PM Of his innocence or his guilt??? Because he swore under oath he didn't do it.
are they both evidence, or only the one you like to believe?
looking forward to seeing the answer to this.
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spence 10-15-2018, 03:45 PM Of his innocence or his guilt??? Because he swore under oath he didn't do it.
are they both evidence, or only the one you like to believe?
I've never once said her testimony is conclusive proof. I do think his response to her accusation and the accusations in general clearly demonstrated he is unfit to serve on the bench.
Jim in CT 10-15-2018, 04:10 PM I've never once said her testimony is conclusive proof. I do think his response to her accusation and the accusations in general clearly demonstrated he is unfit to serve on the bench.
but when sotomayor says female latinas make better judges than white men, that doesn’t lead you to conclude that she’s unfit.
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spence 10-15-2018, 05:19 PM but when sotomayor says female latinas make better judges than white men, that doesn’t lead you to conclude that she’s unfit.
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Well, that's not what she said, but regardless it's not even in the same territory as Kav's conspiracy rants and belligerence.
scottw 10-15-2018, 05:45 PM quit whining spence....ruth bader is next
scottw 10-15-2018, 05:54 PM OOPS!
Cherokee Nation: "It makes a mockery out of DNA tests..while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments & their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented & whose heritage is proven. Sen. Warren is undermining tribal interests w/her continued claims of tribal heritage"
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/411521-cherokee-nation-warrens-use-of-dna-test-inappropriate-wrong
spence 10-15-2018, 06:24 PM quit whining spence....ruth bader is next
Good god is she on your hit list?
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Pete F. 10-15-2018, 06:45 PM OOPS!
Cherokee Nation: "It makes a mockery out of DNA tests..while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments & their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented & whose heritage is proven. Sen. Warren is undermining tribal interests w/her continued claims of tribal heritage"
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/411521-cherokee-nation-warrens-use-of-dna-test-inappropriate-wrong
Perhaps I should ask my relatives in Sweden their opinion of Don the Con claiming to be Swedish. I’m sure that some are upset about that, especially after he made up stories about immigrants issues.
Or perhaps he produce all those letters
But you won’t care because Don the Con is ending American exceptionalism, selling out 75 years of American soldiers lives, diplomacy and the Republican Party for better relationships with evil people and money. Impressive
Shortly after World War II, Donald Trump's father Fred falsely claimed their family was Swedish, hiding their German heritage to avoid any problems selling apartments to Jewish customers, the Boston Globe reported last year. Donald Trump was still claiming Swedish heritage as late as his 1987 book "Art of the Deal," in which he writes that his grandfather came to the U.S. from Sweden.
Fred, for a reason that has never been disclosed, began telling people that he was Swedish. He also became a big-time backer of Israel bonds. The Swedish fiction was adopted by his son Donald, who perpetuated it in his book "The Art the Deal."
Asked in 1990 by a Vanity Fair reporter whether his family's country of origin was not in fact Germany, Donald responded by dissembling even more.
“Actually, it was very difficult,” Donald replied. “My father was not German; my father’s parents were German Swedish, and really sort of all over Europe and I was even thinking in the second edition of putting more emphasis on other places because I was getting so many letters from Sweden: Would I come over and speak to Parliament? Would I come meet with the president?”
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scottw 10-15-2018, 08:28 PM Perhaps I should ask my relatives in Sweden their opinion of Don the Con claiming to be Swedish.
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be my guest :hihi:
Jim in CT 10-15-2018, 08:47 PM Perhaps I should ask my relatives in Sweden their opinion of Don the Con claiming to be Swedish.
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And again, everything is about Trump. You can't just say Warren is a liar.
Jim in CT 10-15-2018, 08:52 PM Perhaps I should ask my relatives in Sweden their opinion of Don the Con claiming to be Swedish.
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Also, the quote saying the test is useless, was issued by the secretary of state of the Cherokee nation. Perhaps he knows something about the subject. Are your relatives senior state department officials in Sweden?
Me think-um that Fauxahontus wants to live in tee-pee of Great White Chief. Ugh.
scottw 10-15-2018, 08:55 PM Me think-um that Fauxahontus wants to live in tee-pee of Great White Chief. Ugh.
cultural appropriation is ok for libs/progressives
Pete F. 10-15-2018, 09:32 PM Also, the quote saying the test is useless, was issued by the secretary of state of the Cherokee nation. Perhaps he knows something about the subject. Are your relatives senior state department officials in Sweden?
Me think-um that Fauxahontus wants to live in tee-pee of Great White Chief. Ugh.
Perhaps
https://youtu.be/fmXv7aGrVUI
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wdmso 10-16-2018, 04:23 AM Want a win for Trump in 2020 Nominate Warren ... pick her as VP that could be less damaging
funny to see conservatives moving the goalposts.. and supporting character assassination when it works for them against warren ...
I did not know ? how much native american was the issue in the 1st place ..
scottw 10-16-2018, 05:27 AM funny to see conservatives moving the goalposts.. and supporting character assassination when it works for them against warren ...
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she's no more native american than you are....
...and it was character assassination to point out the Blumenthal was never in Vietnam...
"The NY Times uncovered a videotape of Blumenthal telling an audience at a Norwalk veteran’s event: “We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam,” Blumenthal said to the group in March of 2008."
or that Hillary was never shot at by snipers...
"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."
But that's not what happened, as demonstrated by CBS News video that shows Clinton arriving on the tarmac under no visible duress, and greeting a child who offers her a copy of a poem."
For an extended period of time — at a key point in her professional life — Warren identified herself as a Native American woman. She listed herself as Native American on a key legal directory reviewed by deans and hiring committees. Former employers — such as the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard Law School — listed Warren as a minority faculty member. Harvard Law School even trumpeted her as the school’s first tenured “woman of color.”
she does fit in well with the rest of the lunatics though...certainly qualified to lead them :uhuh:
Jim in CT 10-16-2018, 05:45 AM She's the Little injun that couldn't.
Jim in CT 10-16-2018, 05:49 AM Want a win for Trump in 2020 Nominate Warren ... pick her as VP that could be less damaging
funny to see conservatives moving the goalposts.. and supporting character assassination when it works for them against warren ...
I did not know ? how much native american was the issue in the 1st place ..
It's not character assassination, when it's rooted in fact. Warren went on and on about how bad it is for companies to profit off of college student loans, while she was making 400k teaching at college (it's OK when she gets rich exploiting college kids, but evil when anyone else does it).
She goes after banks for making money of people who ended up losing their homes, but her and her husband made money - guess what - flipping foreclosed homes. Again, it's OK when she capitalizes on other people's misfortune, but no one else can.
And then the lies (still not close to being proven true) that she lied about being a native American to get that job at Harvard.
Warren once talked about one of her family's authentic Oklahoma Cherokee recipes, a crab omelette. Crab being a well-known staple of the Oklahoma Cherokee diet. We've all seen the old black and white photos of the massive crab migration across the prairies of the midwest.
How stupid does she think we all are, exactly?
Jim in CT 10-16-2018, 06:49 AM Warren committed affirmative action fraud. If liberals believe what they claim to believe, they would cast her aside for this mortal sin. But they don’t believe in anything, except winning.
Groucho Marx famously said, “these are my principles. But if you don’t like them I have other, different principles.”. I wonder if he was talking about democrats.
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Jim in CT 10-16-2018, 06:52 AM cultural appropriation is ok for libs/progressives
well then i’m safe because i’m more of a liberal than she is Cherokee.
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well then i’m safe because i’m more of a liberal than she is Cherokee.
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Seems like you are having a very hard time with this. Did you also blow your gasket when it turned out Obama wasn’t born in Kenya?
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The Dad Fisherman 10-16-2018, 07:23 AM https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpoPUcVU8AAmDvi.jpg
scottw 10-16-2018, 08:03 AM she should have left it alone....this is so funny
Jim in CT 10-16-2018, 08:08 AM Seems like you are having a very hard time with this. Did you also blow your gasket when it turned out Obama wasn’t born in Kenya?
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"Seems like you are having a very hard time with this"
You couldn't be more wrong. I think it's absolutely hysterical, and I pray that she gets the nomination.
"Did you also blow your gasket when it turned out Obama wasn’t born in Kenya?"
Nope, I always said the birthers were kooks. I also believe, looking back at it, that Obama was one of the greatest gifts the Republicans ever received. During his 8 years, the democrats were completely annihilated at the federal and state levels, and he owns a lot of that. Some of that will probably reverse course in November, as is the natural order of things.
Jim in CT 10-16-2018, 08:11 AM she should have left it alone....this is so funny
It's HYSTERICAL
If it turns out that she's 1/512th or 1/1024th Cherokee, that's actually less Indian influence than the average white ameircan has. I didn't know that, but a geneticist was on TV last night and said that most of us, on average, have more Native American in us than 1/1024th.
And she couldn't leave it alone, and much of the reason why, as always, is Trump. She thought this joke of a test would convince everyone she was right, and he was a fool.
Jim in CT 10-16-2018, 08:13 AM In a different but related subject, did anyone see the Hilary interview where she said Bills affair with Monica was "absolutely not" an abuse of his power?
Did any influential liberals call her out for that anti-victim statement? Nope.
Why didn't they? Because they don't really care about sexual abuse, any more than they really care about race. They only pretend to care about such things, when it's politically expedient for them to do so.
spence 10-16-2018, 02:55 PM Why didn't they? Because they don't really care about sexual abuse, any more than they really care about race. They only pretend to care about such things, when it's politically expedient for them to do so.
I saw several on the left question her comment. But...it was also a consensual relationship between two adults, unethical because of the power imbalance and adultery but a long way from sexual abuse there Jim.
Jim in CT 10-16-2018, 05:38 PM I saw several on the left question her comment. But...it was also a consensual relationship between two adults, unethical because of the power imbalance and adultery but a long way from sexual abuse there Jim.
Who criticized Hilary, exactly?
Many feminists would say there is no such thing as consent between the president and a 22 year old intern. As you well know, age doesn't automatically guarantee consent. When the discrepancy in power is sufficient, there can be no consent, regardless of age. And other than teacher and student, it's hard to think of a more unequal balance of authority than between POTUS and intern.
How is it different from relations between a female teacher and a student who's an 18 year-old senior? Illegal in CT, because of the imbalance of power.
spence 10-18-2018, 11:44 AM Who criticized Hilary, exactly?
Many feminists would say there is no such thing as consent between the president and a 22 year old intern. As you well know, age doesn't automatically guarantee consent. When the discrepancy in power is sufficient, there can be no consent, regardless of age. And other than teacher and student, it's hard to think of a more unequal balance of authority than between POTUS and intern.
How is it different from relations between a female teacher and a student who's an 18 year-old senior? Illegal in CT, because of the imbalance of power.
I've seen several, hell even CNN was calling her out. If you go read the archives you won't find me ever claiming the relationship was ethical. Consent can be a gray area also. The CT example you cite was a 22 year old teacher and an 18 year old student. Again, not ethical but not nearly the same power imbalance. Going after her for sexual assault was a bit extreme if you ask me.
Duke41 10-18-2018, 06:05 PM I love what Trump has done. What I like to call good Trump. Bad or stupid Trump makes my skin crawl. Still glad I voted for him and I will again.
FishermanTim 10-22-2018, 11:22 AM Saw a cartoon of a mosquito biting a hand with the caption"
"This is what 1/1054th looks like."
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