https://www.bbc.com/news/world/us_and_canada

He cant help himself he made it about him ...

Also yesterday Trump called himself a Nationalist and the crowd goes wild?? lets hear the spin

https://www.bbc.com/news/world/us_and_canada

He cant help himself he made it about him ...



Oh Yeah, well that's not what it says here.

https://www.foxnews.com/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world/us_and_canada

He cant help himself he made it about him ...

Also yesterday Trump called himself a Nationalist and the crowd goes wild?? lets hear the spin

"lets hear the spin"

Are you under the impression that all the republicans here, do nothing but excuse his behavior? Not sure what you are seeing that makes you think that we're all a bunch of Trump apologists.

As to the violence, the rhetoric had been disgusting on both sides for a long time, since Bush was in office. And regardless of what you obviously think, it's a lot more common on the left. Sure, Trump is an azz who says a ton of inappropriate things. And there are others on the right who do so. But it's not systemic like it is on the left. Watch Foxnews at 8:00 PM, and you'll see a show where the host says all the time, that liberals make good points. He says it ten times a night, Watch CNN or MSNBC at 8:00, and all you'll here is how racist, sexist, and homophobic we all are.

The entire liberal platform at the moment, is that Republicans are evil. That's all they have. You are desperately trying to make the case that we're all Trump. I'll talk about the issues all day long, I don't need to descend into character assassination. Because I am confident that I'm on the right side of the issues, and I can explain why.

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A very big part of the Anger we see today in our society is caused by the purposely false and inaccurate reporting of the Mainstream Media that I refer to as Fake News. It has gotten so bad and hateful that it is beyond description. Mainstream Media must clean up its act, FAST!

4:18 AM - 25 Oct 2018
Now I could post hours of Trump Rallies where he does incite violence but you admit that his behavior is kind of bad
If he truly wants to solve the problem, he has to admit he is part of it.
Presidents have done it before, in fact when JFK did it after the Bay of Pigs his approval ratings soared
It is part of being a leader
The buck stops here
The captain taking responsibility for his ship
The problem is that Don the Con has only one method, unless he reads from a teleprompter and it shows everytime.
He's a bully.

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4:18 AM - 25 Oct 2018

He's not wrong

Now I could post hours of Trump Rallies where he does incite violence but you admit that his behavior is kind of bad
If he truly wants to solve the problem, he has to admit he is part of it.
Presidents have done it before, in fact when JFK did it after the Bay of Pigs his approval ratings soared
It is part of being a leader
The buck stops here
The captain taking responsibility for his ship
The problem is that Don the Con has only one method, unless he reads from a teleprompter and it shows everytime.
He's a bully.

You're not wrong

Call him names Pete but he is fixing our country
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So it is the Democratic platform that the Republicans are evil yet it is our Repub.pres. who uses that type of language to refer to the Press and to democrats. You have people on the right who are saying this is a plot by the Clintons. When Gabby Giffords got shot it was the fault of the deranged person who did it. When Steve scalise got shot it was the fault of the Democrats and their rhetoric. now when bombs are being sent to every prominent person who speaks out against Trump it is the fault of only that deranged individual. It is tough to keep it all straight
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So it is the Democratic platform that the Republicans are evil yet it is our Repub.pres. who uses that type of language to refer to the Press and to democrats. You have people on the right who are saying this is a plot by the Clintons. When Gabby Giffords got shot it was the fault of the deranged person who did it. When Steve scalise got shot it was the fault of the Democrats and their rhetoric. now when bombs are being sent to every prominent person who speaks out against Trump it is the fault of only that deranged individual. It is tough to keep it all straight
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Scrolled through this thread 3 times, didn't see that mentioned here at all.

So it is the Democratic platform that the Republicans are evil yet it is our Repub.pres. who uses that type of language to refer to the Press and to democrats. You have people on the right who are saying this is a plot by the Clintons. When Gabby Giffords got shot it was the fault of the deranged person who did it. When Steve scalise got shot it was the fault of the Democrats and their rhetoric. now when bombs are being sent to every prominent person who speaks out against Trump it is the fault of only that deranged individual. It is tough to keep it all straight
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"So it is the Democratic platform that the Republicans are evil"

Yes. Remember the deplorables comment? Or Obama calling us bitter clingers who dislike people who don't look like us? Or when Obama said that Republicans hate everybody? That's about as bad as most of what Trump says. But you don't complain when democrats do it.

"You have people on the right "

For the millionth time, I'm not saying there aren't kooks on the right, of course there are. I'm saying the kooks are extremists on my side, whereas the kooks are mainstream on your side. Compare Paul Ryan to Nancy Pelosi? Compare Chuck Schumer to Mitch McConnell? Who are the truly moderate democrats? There aren't many anymore, because the party has become the party of George Soros, not the party of Bill Clinton. Where are the moderates liberals in Congress, or on TV? There aren't many. Where are the liberal equivalents of Lindsay Graham and John McCain? They no longer exist.

Pointing to a radical individual, doesn't make me wrong. I'm talking about what the "typical" conservative looks like, compared to the "typical" liberal. At the federal level, the democratic party is a million miles further to the left, than the GOP is to the right. Conservatives are constantly frustrated by Ryan, McConnell, and to a lesser extent Trump.

No comparison. None.

It is tough to keep it all straight
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Then I'll make it easy for you. There are jerks and maniacs on both sides. There are extremists on both sides. There aren't a meaningful number of thoughtful moderates on both sides, the moderates, from what I can tell, are almost all in the GOP.

Who in the democratic senate is as friendly with the GOP, as McCain and Graham are with the left? Manchin might vote with the GOP occasionally at election time, but that's it.

You don't judge either side by the actions of a tiny number of lunatics who don't speak for anyone else.. You judge them by what's considered "mainstream" on each side. So compare Paul Ryan to Nancy Pelosi, and that makes my point. Just compare the leadership of the house on both sides, that illustrates my point.

"So it is the Democratic platform that the Republicans are evil"

Yes. Remember the deplorables comment? Or Obama calling us bitter clingers who dislike people who don't look like us? Or when Obama said that Republicans hate everybody? That's about as bad as most of what Trump says. But you don't complain when democrats do it

None of that is remotely close to the constant garbage that comes out of president Trumps mouth. Somehow with you there is a moral equivalency when a Dem. says something once ( and then apologizes) and when a Rep. repeatedly says something much worse 100s of times.

"You have people on the right "

For the millionth time, I'm not saying there aren't kooks on the right, of course there are. I'm saying the kooks are extremists on my side, whereas the kooks are mainstream on your side. Compare Paul Ryan to Nancy Pelosi? Compare Chuck Schumer to Mitch McConnell? Who are the truly moderate democrats? There aren't many anymore, because the party has become the party of George Soros, not the party of Bill Clinton. Where are the moderates liberals in Congress, or on TV? There aren't many. Where are the liberal equivalents of Lindsay Graham and John McCain? They no longer exist.

Pointing to a radical individual, doesn't make me wrong. I'm talking about what the "typical" conservative looks like, compared to the "typical" liberal. At the federal level, the democratic party is a million miles further to the left, than the GOP is to the right. Conservatives are constantly frustrated by Ryan, McConnell, and to a lesser extent Trump.

No comparison. None. the biggest kook of them all is the president of the United States and last I remember he was Republican.
His approval rating among Repub. is extremely high so obviously most Republicans think the same him

There is no comparison bt the Rights rally's and the Democratic rally's. The lock em up chants for people who have done nothing wrong shows what sorry people Trump supporters have turned into. And callling Democrats treasonous is ridiculous. If you think today's Republican Party is the same as Nixon or even Reagan's you're living in a fantasy world.
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Scrolled through this thread 3 times, didn't see that mentioned here at all.

Search on Steve scalise or on Gifford
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the biggest kook of them all is the president of the United States and last I remember he was Republican.
His approval rating among Repub. is extremely high so obviously most Republicans think the same him

There is no comparison bt the Rights rally's and the Democratic rally's. The lock em up chants for people who have done nothing wrong shows what sorry people Trump supporters have turned into. And callling Democrats treasonous is ridiculous. If you think today's Republican Party is the same as Nixon or even Reagan's you're living in a fantasy world.
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"the biggest kook of them all is the president of the United States and last I remember he was Republican."

HERE'S WHAT YOU FORGOT TO MENTION.

When Trump acts like a jerk, which is often, huge numbers of influential republicans call him out. That doesn't happen on the left. Not nearly to the same extent. Charles Kraithammer was probably the single most influential conservative pundit, and he despised Trump.

The left acted like this when Bush was president, and they never stopped the personal attacks on McCain or Romney. So let's drop the nonsense that Trump is causing all this. The left first embraced insane personal attacks when Bush was president, and they haven't stopped since. When you are wrong on the facts and results and empirical evidence and common sense, you throw bombs. . When you are backed into a corner, this is what you do.

There is no comparison bt the Rights rally's and the Democratic rally's. The lock em up chants for people who have done nothing wrong shows what sorry people Trump supporters have turned into.
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yep...trump supporters shout "lock em up among" themselves while the left actually goes out to harass and beat them up...

you are right...no comparison

yep...trump supporters shout "lock em up among" themselves while the left actually goes out to harass and beat them up...

you are right...no comparison

Seems like those neonazis who love Trump would disagree. And let's not forget those reporters who needed security at his rallies. So I guess you agree with those nutsl who think the Democrats planted the bombs.
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Then I'll make it easy for you. There are jerks and maniacs on both sides. There are extremists on both sides. There aren't a meaningful number of thoughtful moderates on both sides, the moderates, from what I can tell, are almost all in the GOP.

Who in the democratic senate is as friendly with the GOP, as McCain and Graham are with the left? Manchin might vote with the GOP occasionally at election time, but that's it.

You don't judge either side by the actions of a tiny number of lunatics who don't speak for anyone else.. You judge them by what's considered "mainstream" on each side. So compare Paul Ryan to Nancy Pelosi, and that makes my point. Just compare the leadership of the house on both sides, that illustrates my point.

What you claim is incorrect, 20% of the democrats vote with Trump positions more than 40% of the time
Do you expect them to agree 100%, only three republicans have done that and one of those he made Attorney General
Here is the data
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/

Crying wont help Paul.
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Crying wont help Paul.
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Voting will

Crying wont help Paul.
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Mr irrelevant.
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Voting will

Voting will help,you are correct. It is America’s way of fixing what is wrong. Until the next election Trump must fix the broken pieces. Next term we will see real progress.
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So I guess you agree with those nutsl who think the Democrats planted the bombs.

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we don't really know.... but since none of them went off I'm suspecting a dumbocrat :bl:

Mr irrelevant.
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snarky :hihi:

Call him names Pete but he is fixing our country
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Country wasn’t broken.
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Voting will help,you are correct. It is America’s way of fixing what is wrong. Until the next election Trump must fix the broken pieces. Next term we will see real progress.
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We won't see a change in the political landscape until we have term and money limits for Congress.
Too many people have too much power and money is influencing them.
Both sides are complicit and it is to their advantage to keep everyone distracted with all the things you have to be afraid of.
There has been bipartisan support for Term limits and spending limits for years, but it has to be done on the state level, since it requires an amendment to the Constitution.
Get to work if it's important to you.

Call him names Pete but he is fixing our country
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When Bill Clinton was the President, we ignored his behavior and focused on the results. With Trump, we are supposed to ignore the results and focus on the behavior.

Funny, the liberal concern about the personal morals of the POTUS, is quite selective. Which means it's fake.

Country wasn’t broken.
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No, it wasn't.

But today most of us have more take-home pay, unemployment is down, GDP is up (after your hero said that GDP growth of 2% was the new reality), and for the first time since I've been alive, we have a SCOTUS that will likely rule according to the constitution as they're supposed to, rather than basing rulings on personal opinions.

No, it wasn't.

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lot's of broken democrats after the election though :hihi:

lot's of broken democrats after the election though :hihi:


LOTS more in a few weeks !!!
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No, it wasn't.

But today most of us have more take-home pay, unemployment is down, GDP is up (after your hero said that GDP growth of 2% was the new reality), and for the first time since I've been alive, we have a SCOTUS that will likely rule according to the constitution as they're supposed to, rather than basing rulings on personal opinions.

Trump has signed more executive orders than any president in 50 years, funny that it upset him when previous presidents did it.

Jul 10, 2012 12:11:10 PM Why is @BarackObama constantly issuing executive orders that are major power grabs of authority?

lot's of broken democrats after the election though :hihi:

Just about all of them. Here, in DC, and on TV. Just about all of them. I cannot imagine what they will do if they don't re-take the house.

Q: How do we know that the democrats sent themselves bombs?

A: None of them worked.
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Q: How do we know that the democrats sent themselves bombs?

A: None of them worked.
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Hey, you might be correct

The left has a long ways to go to catch up with the right or Islamists.

The chance of being murdered in a Nationalist or Right Wing terrorist attack was 1 in 33 million per year.
The annual chance of being murdered by a Left Wing terrorist was about 1 in 330 million per year.
The chance of being murdered in a terrorist attack committed by an Islamist during this period was about 1 in 2.5 million per year

Source
https://www.cato.org/blog/terrorism-deaths-ideology-charlottesville-anomaly

Hey, you might be correct

The left has a long ways to go to catch up with the right or Islamists.

The chance of being murdered in a Nationalist or Right Wing terrorist attack was 1 in 33 million per year.
The annual chance of being murdered by a Left Wing terrorist was about 1 in 330 million per year.
The chance of being murdered in a terrorist attack committed by an Islamist during this period was about 1 in 2.5 million per year

Source
https://www.cato.org/blog/terrorism-deaths-ideology-charlottesville-anomaly

Who is bankrupting the state of Connecticut?

A) Republicans
B) Democrats
C) Islamists

Who throws more politically motivated riots? Who throws more bricks through windows when they don't get what they want? Who forces more college speakers to hide behind security?
Who never, ever stops claiming that everyone else is racist?

I'm not talking about the terrorists on either side, I am talking about the mainstream people on either side.

Trump has signed more executive orders than any president in 50 years, funny that it upset him when previous presidents did it.



No he hasn't

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders

Who is bankrupting the state of Connecticut?

A) Republicans
B) Democrats
C) Islamists

Who throws more politically motivated riots? Show me a Democratic riot, Trump acknowledges republican mobs are rioting in california in protest of sanctuary cities
Who throws more bricks through windows when they don't get what they want? Better bricks than bombs, but the left has no monopoly on brick throwing
Who forces more college speakers to hide behind security?
"Knock the crap out of them, would you? I promise you, I will pay your legal fees."
Who never, ever stops claiming that everyone else is racist?
The civility police might point out that many conservatives hated Obama just as much, but that only demonstrates the limits of content-neutral analysis. The right’s revulsion against a black president targeted by birther conspiracy theories is not the same as the left’s revulsion against a racist president who spread birther conspiracy theories.

I'm not talking about the terrorists on either side, I am talking about the mainstream people on either side.


The other problem with your argument for civility, when it’s taken as far as prohibiting moral condemnation of politicians, is that it empowers defenders of the status quo while neutering critics.
There are two basic forms of political argument. Either you defend a specific policy as the rational, logical option in the circumstances that exist, or you question the rules of the game. People on the political right are prone to presenting things such as spending cuts as morally neutral decisions, determined by economic reality. Leftwing criticism commonly argues that logic presented as natural is really no such thing, but rather that it’s a question of priorities. Political priorities are, unavoidably, a moral issue.

No he hasn't

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders
You are correct as far as totals go but, he's not finished his term quite yet.
Soon

You are correct as far as totals go but, he's not finished his term quite yet.
Soon

Did Spence write this speech for you?

When you said Trump had the most ,were you not talking about totals?
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The other problem with your argument for civility, when it’s taken as far as prohibiting moral condemnation of politicians, is that it empowers defenders of the status quo while neutering critics.
There are two basic forms of political argument. Either you defend a specific policy as the rational, logical option in the circumstances that exist, or you question the rules of the game. People on the political right are prone to presenting things such as spending cuts as morally neutral decisions, determined by economic reality. Leftwing criticism commonly argues that logic presented as natural is really no such thing, but rather that it’s a question of priorities. Political priorities are, unavoidably, a moral issue.

when you ask me to specify a single left wing riot, meaning you can’t think of any, you lose the ability to be taken seriously. look at what happens every time a conservative tried to speak on a college campus, everything antifa does, look at the people
banging on the senate doors during the kavanaugh hearings, black lives matter, what happened in ferguson when the white cop was acquitted, how many do you need exactly?
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You are correct as far as totals go but, he's not finished his term quite yet.
Soon

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/09/huh.gif

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/09/huh.gif

Nice...:love:

As far as Pete's claim.
At one point I had read that he was on pace to be the highest. As of the first year or so, he had more than Obama at the same point.

His point remains valid though; he has been largely ineffective at working with congress as the great negotiator to get much through with the GOP controlling (I know not with the 60 vote majority) both houses. He beat on Obama for this on the trail and through twitter as being ineffective because Obama needed to use EO's.

If the GOP looses the house he will be reduced entirely to twitter rants and Executive orders however.

Back to :hidin:

Nice...:love:

As far as Pete's claim.
At one point I had read that he was on pace to be the highest. As of the first year or so, he had more than Obama at the same point.



Again, Nope

he is on pace for about 200 (50 per year) in his term, he is currently at 85. Jimmy Carter was a 1 term president and he had 320 (80 per year)

Again, Nope

he is on pace for about 200 (50 per year) in his term, he is currently at 85. Jimmy Carter was a 1 term president and he had 320 (80 per year)

How dare you present facts in the political forum! The liberals will now have to change their argument.
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Again, Nope

he is on pace for about 200 (50 per year) in his term, he is currently at 85. Jimmy Carter was a 1 term president and he had 320 (80 per year)

Fair enough. You are correct.

The article I had seen was before that in 2017. I didn't go back to look because I don't really care.

:-P


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"the party has become the party of George Soros,"


Jim again showing he fondness for kool aid and tinfoil hats

Just look at the pavlovian response when Soros , Hillary , benghazi, migrant caravan , fake media, cnn ,due process for kavanaugh but chant lock her up

but no such response is generated if you mention us debt , executive orders as mentioned by pete threatening the world with more nukes ask where is the health care , arm sale to saudi's after killing a journalist


Trump says one thing on the white house lawn.. then same day he goes to a campaign rally completely and contradicts himself

as if he thinks no one else is watching ??

"the party has become the party of George Soros,"


Jim again showing he fondness for kool aid and tinfoil hats

Just look at the pavlovian response when Soros , Hillary , benghazi, migrant caravan , fake media, cnn ,due process for kavanaugh but chant lock her up

but no such response is generated if you mention us debt , executive orders as mentioned by pete threatening the world with more nukes ask where is the health care , arm sale to saudi's after killing a journalist


Trump says one thing on the white house lawn.. then same day he goes to a campaign rally completely and contradicts himself

as if he thinks no one else is watching ??

i’ll ask again, who are the moderate
democrats at the national level? Nancy Pelosi? Spartacus Booker? Lie-awatha? compare them to Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell and John McCain and Lindsay Graham? Please.

Trump is an idiot. There is a lot more to the GOP than him. In fact, if it wasn’t for kooky and uncivilized liberals, he never would
have won the nomination, not ever. He was nominated specifically, to out-sleaze the liberals. Stunning that you don’t see that. Ifnthe legt could have been fair ( not fawning all over, just fair) to McCain it Romney, there would be no president Trump. Kind of funny when you think of it that way, eh?

as to the debt, john and i have both saidnits a huge issue, so zero hypocrisy. did you complain if debt during the obama years? i bet not.
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I am surprised to see Lie-awatha was not on the mailing list...…. seems odd to have left her out when you look at the list, if you believe those who are connecting the dots for us. Either way, mailing pipe bombs, to anyone, is the work of a deranged individual or individuals.

snarky :hihi:

Once in a while 😁
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Q: How do we know that the democrats sent themselves bombs?

A: None of them worked.
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And yet Dems. Have more educ. And make $ on average (even when you take into account more poor people vote D than R).
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I am surprised to see Lie-awatha was not on the mailing list...…. seems odd to have left her out when you look at the list, if you believe those who are connecting the dots for us. Either way, mailing pipe bombs, to anyone, is the work of a deranged individual or individuals.

it’s all trumps fault. because when maxine waters tells a crowd
to make republicans feel “ that they are not welcome anywhere”, see, that’s brilliant and noble. but when trump does it, he’s subhuman.

no shame. zip.
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it’s all trumps fault. because when maxine waters tells a crowd
to make republicans feel “ that they are not welcome anywhere”, see, that’s brilliant and noble. but when trump does it, he’s subhuman.

no shame. zip.
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The civility police might point out that many conservatives hated Obama just as much, but that only demonstrates the limits of content-neutral analysis. The right’s revulsion against a black president targeted by birther conspiracy theories is not the same as the left’s revulsion against a racist president who spread birther conspiracy theories.
No one comes close to how Trump has split this country
To claim that college students, those uppity black people, a representative or anyone else has the power that Trump wields in the media is absurd
You poor victim
We will be reaping what he has sown for a generation
These asassination attempts have no precedent, meanwhile Trump’s rallies continue chanting threats, to his grinning approval
You’re complicit in this
Sad
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Did Spence write this speech for you?

When you said Trump had the most ,were you not talking about totals?
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I was using alternative facts
I thought we could do that now
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The civility police might point out that many conservatives hated Obama just as much, but that only demonstrates the limits of content-neutral analysis. The right’s revulsion against a black president targeted by birther conspiracy theories is not the same as the left’s revulsion against a racist president who spread birther conspiracy theories.
No one comes close to how Trump has split this country
To claim that college students, those uppity black people, a representative or anyone else has the power that Trump wields in the media is absurd
You poor victim
We will be reaping what he has sown for a generation
These asassination attempts have no precedent, meanwhile Trump’s rallies continue chanting threats, to his grinning approval
You’re complicit in this
Sad
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"The civility police might point out that many conservatives hated Obama just as much" They might point that out, and it would be laughably wrong. We disliked Obama's policies, and we disliked the way he whined about Foxnews (sort of how Trump whines about CNN), the way he hated conservatives. But we didn't endlessly obsess about everything Obama did, or every syllable he spoke.

"The right’s revulsion against a black president "

Ahh. Not that he was a radical, inexperienced politician whose wife hated this country, and whose spiritual mentor hated this country. It was because he was black. Im a guy who literally prays that Condaleeza Rice runs, but I'm an anti-black racist because I thought Obama was an arrogant, clueless horses azz, who never met an abortion he didn't think was swell, and who trampled on the rights of Christians again and again. Nope, it was all because of his skin color.

Right there, in that stupid, demonstrably false accusation, we see your desperation and small mindedness. You proved my point better than I ever could.

"those uppity black people:

You're a one trick pony, huh?

The civility police might point out that many conservatives hated Obama just as much, but that only demonstrates the limits of content-neutral analysis.

This is stupid gibberish. It's as if you are drunk when you write this junk.


The right’s revulsion against a black president targeted by birther conspiracy theories is not the same as the left’s revulsion against a racist president who spread birther conspiracy theories

You keep repeating this race baiting crap. Again as if wallowing in the sloppy, self righteous certainty of a drunken stupor.

No one comes close to how Trump has split this country

This is the height of uncorroborated hearsay. This doesn't come close to being true. It is the kind of purely vicious hate that helps to split this country.

To claim that college students, those uppity black people, a representative or anyone else has the power that Trump wields in the media is absurd

This is an absurdly ignorant rant that sounds like the incoherent rambling of someone in the grip of potent weed. You're so far out of the realm of sober, intelligent thought that you not only have visions of race in every nook and cranny, you actually see Trump wielding power in the media. The mainstream leftist media is unbridled in its attacks on Trump. In what smoky field of contact high are you discerning this power that Trump wields in the media? Do you mean twitter? The media is stupid enough to print what he twitter's. That's his power? The media's stupidity is the power he wields?

You poor victim
We will be reaping what he has sown for a generation

This reeks of the lamentations of a defeated, staggering, homeless man flailing at invisible bogymen with one hand while the other is tilting the brown bagged bottle of Boone's Farm into his begging mouth.

These asassination attempts have no precedent, meanwhile Trump’s rallies continue chanting threats, to his grinning approval
You’re complicit in this
Sad


You see monsters in your Goya-like twisted sleep of reason gone wrong. It would be better for you if you could woke.

You see monsters in your Goya-like twisted sleep of reason gone wrong. It would be better for you if you could woke.

And you think I’m intoxicated?
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"The civility police might point out that many conservatives hated Obama just as much" They might point that out, and it would be laughably wrong. We disliked Obama's policies, and we disliked the way he whined about Foxnews (sort of how Trump whines about CNN), the way he hated conservatives. But we didn't endlessly obsess about everything Obama did, or every syllable he spoke.

"The right’s revulsion against a black president "

Ahh. Not that he was a radical, inexperienced politician whose wife hated this country, and whose spiritual mentor hated this country. It was because he was black. Im a guy who literally prays that Condaleeza Rice runs, but I'm an anti-black racist because I thought Obama was an arrogant, clueless horses azz, who never met an abortion he didn't think was swell, and who trampled on the rights of Christians again and again. Nope, it was all because of his skin color.

Right there, in that stupid, demonstrably false accusation, we see your desperation and small mindedness. You proved my point better than I ever could.

"those uppity black people:

You're a one trick pony, huh?
If you think that white nationalists are not estatic now because Trump has acknowledged them into his Know Nothing party, you’re sitting in the low chair again
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And you think I’m intoxicated?
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I think you are insane :jester:

"The civility police might point out that many conservatives hated Obama just as much" They might point that out, and it would be laughably wrong. We disliked Obama's policies, and we disliked the way he whined about Foxnews (sort of how Trump whines about CNN), the way he hated conservatives. But we didn't endlessly obsess about everything Obama did, or every syllable he spoke.

"The right’s revulsion against a black president "

Ahh. Not that he was a radical, inexperienced politician whose wife hated this country, and whose spiritual mentor hated this country. It was because he was black. Im a guy who literally prays that Condaleeza Rice runs, but I'm an anti-black racist because I thought Obama was an arrogant, clueless horses azz, who never met an abortion he didn't think was swell, and who trampled on the rights of Christians again and again. Nope, it was all because of his skin color.

Right there, in that stupid, demonstrably false accusation, we see your desperation and small mindedness. You proved my point better than I ever could.

"those uppity black people:

You're a one trick pony, huh?


We disliked Obama's policies, and we disliked the way he whined about Foxnews (sort of how Trump whines about CNN), the way he hated conservatives. But we didn't endlessly obsess about everything Obama did, or every syllable he spoke. Where were you for those 8 years when he was in office? I know you were and still there in denial



Not that he was a radical, inexperienced politician whose wife hated this country, cool aid but the current inexperienced politician is a genius /COLOR]

Obama was an arrogant, clueless horses azz, who never met an abortion he didn't think was swell, and who trampled on the rights of Christians again and again. [COLOR="red"] tin ƒoil hate with a shot of kool aid who thinks Trump is a good christian


that stupid, demonstrably false accusation, we see your desperation and small mindedness. describes your response completely

I'm confused...is it "cool aid" or "kool aid"

We disliked Obama's policies, and we disliked the way he whined about Foxnews (sort of how Trump whines about CNN), the way he hated conservatives. But we didn't endlessly obsess about everything Obama did, or every syllable he spoke. Where were you for those 8 years when he was in office? I know you were and still there in denial



Not that he was a radical, inexperienced politician whose wife hated this country, cool aid but the current inexperienced politician is a genius /COLOR]

Obama was an arrogant, clueless horses azz, who never met an abortion he didn't think was swell, and who trampled on the rights of Christians again and again. [COLOR="red"] tin ƒoil hate with a shot of kool aid who thinks Trump is a good christian


that stupid, demonstrably false accusation, we see your desperation and small mindedness. describes your response completely

Trump is a genius at one thing only, at driving his opponents to madness. all you people do, is fret and obsess over everything he says and does. Trump just drank a glass of water! You know who else drank water? Hitler, that’s who!!

you and pete claim mybside is thoughtless, yet i bash trump and give obama credit all the time. you are the ones who can’t admit trump has done anything good, or admit that obama or hilary did anything bad. So who is being thoughtless, exactly?

he called me a racist twice in one post. do you wonder why you have almost no chance of picking up two senate seats?
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Trump is a genius at one thing only, at driving his opponents to madness.

And that is one of the reasons, besides his policies, that he is the most divisive President ever

all you people do, is fret and obsess over everything he says and does. Trump just drank a glass of water! You know who else drank water? Hitler, that’s who!!

you and pete claim mybside is thoughtless, yet i bash trump and give obama credit all the time. you are the ones who can’t admit trump has done anything good, or admit that obama or hilary did anything bad. So who is being thoughtless, exactly?

he called me a racist twice in one post. do you wonder why you have almost no chance of picking up two senate seats?
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Did I say you are a racist
I certainly think some Trumplicans are, and you typically espouse the party line.
You’re the most tribal writer on here
Anything said about Trump or his party brings an attack, perhaps it is because your identity is so closely tied to your political beliefs.
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Did I say you are a racist
I certainly think some Trumplicans are, and you typically espouse the party line.
You’re the most tribal writer on here
Anything said about Trump or his party brings an attack, perhaps it is because your identity is so closely tied to your political beliefs.
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Thank You Pete,for once again showing you are incapable of independent thoughts. You make veiled accusations and retreat under the guise of semantics. Very brave you are,ha. I can probably point to dozens of posts where Jim calls Trump a jerk or something less than flattering. The amount of times I have seen you criticize the Democratic Party is stuck at zero. Blind partisanship, plain and simple.
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Did I say you are a racist
I certainly think some Trumplicans are, and you typically espouse the party line.
You’re the most tribal writer on here
Anything said about Trump or his party brings an attack, perhaps it is because your identity is so closely tied to your political beliefs.
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"Did I say you are a racist "

You said resistance to Obama was based on skin color. Pretty sure that's the textbook definition of racism. Hi spolicies were guaranteed to offend everyone to the right of Castro.

"You’re the most tribal writer on here "

The hell I am. I bash Trump all the time. I give Obama credit all the time for the economy and terrorism. I wholeheartedly support gay marriage and oppose the death penalty, and I think conservatives are too rabidly opposed to gun control. And I think people born sick should get free healthcare to cover conditions they have been born with. You tell me, on what major issues do you disagree with the liberal platform? When you have you posted anything that wasn't completely in support of liberalism?

Thank You Pete,for once again showing you are incapable of independent thoughts. You make veiled accusations and retreat under the guise of semantics. Very brave you are,ha. I can probably point to dozens of posts where Jim calls Trump a jerk or something less than flattering. The amount of times I have seen you criticize the Democratic Party is stuck at zero. Blind partisanship, plain and simple.
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"You make veiled accusations and retreat under the guise of semantics"

Very, very thinly veiled accusations.

It was a very cowardly dodge.

It’s quite comical who you think I am, since I’ve voted pretty straight party line for most of my 60+ years until the last election
The change I see in the Republican Party since the Tea Party takeover is horrific and it needs to lose
Until Trump I was a Republican
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It’s quite comical who you think I am, since I’ve voted pretty straight party line for most of my 60+ years until the last election
The change I see in the Republican Party since the Tea Party takeover is horrific and it needs to lose
Until Trump I was a Republican
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Why did you used to be a Republican?

The change I see in the Republican Party since the Tea Party takeover is horrific and it needs to lose
Until Trump I was a Republican
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Those are contradictory statements. Is it the tea party that drove you away, or Trump?

Those are contradictory statements. Is it the tea party that drove you away, or Trump?

You're trying to have a conversation with an intellectual drunk who can't quite put his finger on exactly the what and how is, but floats generalized ideas explained by unverified labels.

Those are contradictory statements. Is it the tea party that drove you away, or Trump?
Trump took the Tea Party rhetoric and did a much better job of playing on the fears of people.
Now the Republican party is repeating the mistakes of the Goldwater era.
Those mistakes brought, in the next few terms, all the progressive evils that conservatives now rail about.
Few Americans have all extreme views, left or right, which is why things always come back towards the center.

Trump took the Tea Party rhetoric and did a much better job of playing on the fears of people.
Now the Republican party is repeating the mistakes of the Goldwater era.
Those mistakes brought, in the next few terms, all the progressive evils that conservatives now rail about.
Few Americans have all extreme views, left or right, which is why things always come back towards the center.

Your typical vague statement loaded with labels and memes that somehow are supposed to take the place of verification.

You're trying to have a conversation with an intellectual drunk



that was pretty funny

Until Trump I was a Republican
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yes there are lots of before trump republicans that spend all of their time cutting and pasting from whacko left wing websites to support leftist causes :scream:

yes there are lots of trump republicans that spend all of their time cutting and pasting from whacko rightwing websites to support rightwing causes :scream:
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