Trump and Scott trying once again discredit the election by again suggesting voter fraud.. with zero evidence... because things may not go their way It’s sad to see

BUTTERYMALES!!!!!!
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Not to mention perhaps the most blatant acts of voter discrimination in Georgia I've seen in my lifetime by the Republican candidate.

You have to admire the Democrats. They were able to replace all the people who counted the votes Tuesday night and gave the Republicans the lead with Democratic operatives during the last week.
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Trump and Scott trying once again discredit the election by again suggesting voter fraud.. with zero evidence... because things may not go their way It’s sad to see

I guess this is your opinion possibly from getting your news from msnbc or cnn or something?

If you are talking about the ones in charge of the election who has been caught before and chastised by a judge to be transparent and follow the rules(why she was given another chance at fraud is beyond most of the rest of America), then you must be uninformed of the fact they did not turn in the early votes and absentee ballot results 30 minutes after the polls closed, they are not saying how many ballots have not been counted yet allowing them to come up with more as needed. They are not doing this with the candidates present.

but the GOP is the bad guy, I see
condoning stealing an election that was won already is just as bad as the ones committing fraud.

the evidence is in front of you in plain sight




Where is the discrimination spence? :huh:

I’ve been reading Fox News the past week or so, just saw today that a judge actually ruled in favor of Scott... wonder if there’s actually something to this... it IS Florida after all.
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I guess this is your opinion possibly from getting your news from msnbc or cnn or something?

If you are talking about the ones in charge of the election who has been caught before and chastised by a judge to be transparent and follow the rules(why she was given another chance at fraud is beyond most of the rest of America), then you must be uninformed of the fact they did not turn in the early votes and absentee ballot results 30 minutes after the polls closed, they are not saying how many ballots have not been counted yet allowing them to come up with more as needed. They are not doing this with the candidates present.

but the GOP is the bad guy, I see
condoning stealing an election that was won already is just as bad as the ones committing fraud.

the evidence is in front of you in plain sight




Where is the discrimination spence? :huh:

are you completely Blind to the GOP and their history of voter suppression ... or do you feel voter fraud is real .... the clown Scott claimed victory and the other clown conceded but the count wasn't complete ... and somehow the dems have inserted thousands and thousands of votes after the polls closed ... the conspiracy theories the right throw out never stop ...

Caught before ???

More fear mongering

"I will not sit idly by while unethical liberals try to steal this election from the great people of Florida," Scott told reporters as he stood outside the Governor's Mansion at a hastily called news conference in Tallahassee.

"As a matter of law, there is no case in the state of Florida where a public records request had to be satisfied in less than 24 hours,"

from the judge

Florida public records of ballot totals and breakdowns should be available as soon as the polls close on Election Day.

wow how does that happen ??

democrats kept the polls open a few extra days for their dead voters...takes them a little longer to get to the polls

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As soon as Democrats sent their best Election stealing lawyer, Marc Elias, to Broward County they miraculously started finding Democrat votes. Don’t worry, Florida - I am sending much better lawyers to expose the FRAUD!


More lies and fear... and involving himself once again claiming fraud only when the other side looks like it might win .... its amazing to see the sheep support his constant lies

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Trying to STEAL two big elections in Florida! We are watching closely!

what a confused vision of MAGA

are you completely Blind to the GOP and their history of voter suppression ... or do you feel voter fraud is real .... the clown Scott claimed victory and the other clown conceded but the count wasn't complete ... and somehow the dems have inserted thousands and thousands of votes after the polls closed ... the conspiracy theories the right throw out never stop ...

Caught before ???

More fear mongering

"I will not sit idly by while unethical liberals try to steal this election from the great people of Florida," Scott told reporters as he stood outside the Governor's Mansion at a hastily called news conference in Tallahassee.

"As a matter of law, there is no case in the state of Florida where a public records request had to be satisfied in less than 24 hours,"

from the judge

Florida public records of ballot totals and breakdowns should be available as soon as the polls close on Election Day.

wow how does that happen ??

not blind to either parties' history

yes caught before, same people, same woman, probably considered lies by the liberal media so apparently you don't know about it therefore it is lies:angel:

I have not looked at news today so I don't know more and I don't tweet.

you can never take your eyes off those dirty democrats...they are a slippery bunch.....

hey Wayne....it's fortunate the other 65 Florida counties...hell, the rest of the counties in America aren't as incompetent as these two democrat run Florida counties...imagine the mess??? :jester:

Florida has ordered a machine recount of votes for state governor and senator following Tuesday's closely fought mid-term elections, officials say.



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Trying to STEAL two big elections in Florida! We are watching closely!

Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner said that as unofficial results in both races had fallen within a margin of 0.5%, a recount was required by law.

another example of Trump trying to discredit the law and the process and his followers doing the same

You are correct about the recount but the race was called when it was above the half percent margin and then suddenly more ballots magically appeared that had no chain of command they were simply found. If it gets below a quarter percent they have to recount by hand. No hanging chads this time.

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Remember what Stalin said. Voters are powerless. People who count the vote have all the power. ;)
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Eh, at this point I hope they do steal these races... at least it would mean they were trying hard instead of being soft pushovers...

Desperate times call for desperate measures, amiright?
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Get Brazile on that,now.
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When I hear all the posturing about voting and fraud, I always wonder how many of the complainers have ever counted votes or been involved in the electoral process in any way other than casting their vote.

Trump and Scott trying once again discredit the election by again suggesting voter fraud.. with zero evidence... because things may not go their way It’s sad to see

Zero evidence? We know that deadlines were missed, we know that unverified ballots were mixed in with valid ballots. Boxes of ballots "found" at the post office. Boxes of ballots illegally delivered. We know these things. So nothing you have seen unfold in Broward County, gives you any concern?

The vote coordinator looks like the love child between Donna Brazile and Albert Einstein.

Zero evidence? We Have been told know that deadlines were missed, we Have been told know that unverified ballots were mixed in with valid ballots. Boxes of ballots were supposedly "found" at the post office. Boxes of ballots were supposedly illegally delivered. We think we know these things. So nothing you have seen unfold in Broward County, gives you any concern?

Why is it when it doesn't fit the result you want hearsay is fine, but you claim to be horrified when it is presented when you get what you want?

The vote coordinator looks like the love child between Donna Brazile and Albert Einstein.
Well Don III, are we to assume that the elected official's appearance would somehow affect the election?
Or do you just not like people who are black or intellectual and a possible combination of the two is worse?

There are lawyers squabbling over this on both sides and somehow it will get figured out. Bush won last time in a Florida election fight and the Democrats remember that.

Or do you just not like people who are black or intellectual and a possible combination of the two is worse?


WTF are you talking about? There's something seriously wrong with you.

Well Don III, are we to assume that the elected official's appearance would somehow affect the election?
Or do you just not like people who are black or intellectual and a possible combination of the two is worse?

There are lawyers squabbling over this on both sides and somehow it will get figured out. Bush won last time in a Florida election fight and the Democrats remember that.

yes i am a white supremacist. i have nonissue with blacks. But it’s possible to be black, and funny looking, and corrupt.

the result in both races so far, is what i was rooting for. there is evidence of shenanigans. Nothing you are worried about i’m sure.
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Didn’t a judge look at it and found no evidence of any fraud?
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Zero evidence? We know that deadlines were missed, we know that unverified ballots were mixed in with valid ballots. Boxes of ballots "found" at the post office. Boxes of ballots illegally delivered. We know these things. So nothing you have seen unfold in Broward County, gives you any concern?

The vote coordinator looks like the love child between Donna Brazile and Albert Einstein.

I see your keeping your tin foil hat nice and shiny


State election monitors stationed in Broward County have seen no evidence of criminal activity in the administration of Tuesday’s election, a Florida Division of Elections staffer told the Miami Herald early Saturday.

Two DOE staffers have been stationed in Broward County since at least Nov. 6 to oversee the administration of the elections, visit polling stations, and “ensure that all laws are followed.” Florida’s Secretary of State announced its plan for increased oversight in May, after a court ruled Broward Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes broke the law when she authorized the premature destruction of ballots in a contested race following the 2016 elections.

President Donald Trump and Florida’s two highest-ranking Republicans are continuing to push unfounded claims of voter fraud as the state recounts votes to decide closely watched races for governor, U.S. Senate and agriculture commissioner.

The president said valid ballots in Florida should be thrown out because “an honest vote count is no longer possible.”

Governor Rick Scott said his Democratic U.S. Senate opponent, Bill Nelson, is “clearly trying commit voter fraud to win this election.”


So you support the POTUS in not counting all the votes because your team might lose.....

But if the recount goes against the democrats and the republicans win what will you say then?? why do you think you should have it both ways rigged if you lose fair if you win??

yes i am a white supremacist. i have nonissue with blacks. But it’s possible to be black, and funny looking, and corrupt.

the result in both races so far, is what i was rooting for. there is evidence of shenanigans. Nothing you are worried about i’m sure.
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Glad to see you are out of the closet.

There is a big difference between allegations and evidence, remember this from a recent Senate report regarding another person who was accused.

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In neither the committee’s investigation nor in the supplemental background investigation conducted by the FBI was there ANY evidence to substantiate or corroborate any of the allegations.

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The only fair thing to do at this point is just re-do the election... the dead people will be too tired to vote again anyways...
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Not the biggest deal is it snowflakes? It’s just a little delay and we deserve to make sure nothing unreasonable happened in our process. Kind of like the Kavanaugh investigation.
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Not the biggest deal is it snowflakes? It’s just a little delay and we deserve to make sure nothing unreasonable happened in our process. Kind of like the Kavanaugh investigation.
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Exactly like it, alleged rape and all...
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Exactly like it, alleged rape and all...
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Maybe you missed my point Ian. No matter the charge, how does it hurt anything to look into it? There is certainly more of a smoking gun in these charges than there were in the Kavanaugh allegations. So let’s look into it and then decide.
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By all means look into it. The Florida state police and Scott’s appointed monitors found nothing.

The reality is they will not likely change either election, with 15000 and 36000 vote difference.

How Scott and DeSantis handle this will impact them in the next election.

After the campaign run in AZ it is hard to believe McSally has been the classy one in all of this....
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ummm...

"Brenda Snipes has held her position since 2003, in which year her predecessor, Miriam Oliphant, was suspended for “grave neglect, mismanagement and incompetence” and, quite literally, marched out of her office. Alas, Snipes has proven no better at fulfilling her duties than was Oliphant. On Friday, a court in Broward County found that Snipes was guilty of violating both Florida’s public-records laws and the state’s constitution by failing to provide mandatory updates to the public, and it ordered the immediate release of the missing information. As that ruling was coming down, Snipes’s office was laying out more lawsuit bait. According to the Miami Herald, an election worker found bags of “uncounted early ballots” in the Broward County office — ballots whose provenance could not be established. Snipes, meanwhile, was busy mixing together rejected provisional ballots and accepted provisional ballots, processing them all together. She justified her decision to add these provisional ballots to the official tally on the grounds that it would be better to include some illegal votes than to nix the legal ones with which, by her own incompetence, they had been blended.

This year alone, Snipes has been reprimanded by the courts twice: once, in May, for illegally destroying ballots during the 2016 Democratic primary, in violation of both state and federal law; and again, in August, for illegally opening mail-in ballots in secret. How long, we wonder, does it take to establish a pattern?


she'll probably get a promotion and a lifetime achievement award :biglaugh:

Maybe you missed my point Ian. No matter the charge, how does it hurt anything to look into it? There is certainly more of a smoking gun in these charges than there were in the Kavanaugh allegations. So let’s look into it and then decide.
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Definitely missed it :P and I agree
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ummm...

"Brenda Snipes has held her position since 2003, in which year her predecessor, Miriam Oliphant, was suspended for “grave neglect, mismanagement and incompetence” and, quite literally, marched out of her office. Alas, Snipes has proven no better at fulfilling her duties than was Oliphant. On Friday, a court in Broward County found that Snipes was guilty of violating both Florida’s public-records laws and the state’s constitution by failing to provide mandatory updates to the public, and it ordered the immediate release of the missing information. As that ruling was coming down, Snipes’s office was laying out more lawsuit bait. According to the Miami Herald, an election worker found bags of “uncounted early ballots” in the Broward County office — ballots whose provenance could not be established. Snipes, meanwhile, was busy mixing together rejected provisional ballots and accepted provisional ballots, processing them all together. She justified her decision to add these provisional ballots to the official tally on the grounds that it would be better to include some illegal votes than to nix the legal ones with which, by her own incompetence, they had been blended.

This year alone, Snipes has been reprimanded by the courts twice: once, in May, for illegally destroying ballots during the 2016 Democratic primary, in violation of both state and federal law; and again, in August, for illegally opening mail-in ballots in secret. How long, we wonder, does it take to establish a pattern?


she'll probably get a promotion and a lifetime achievement award :biglaugh:
She’s an elected official
Her’s isn’t a lifetime appointment
:biglaugh:
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She’s an elected official
Her’s isn’t a lifetime appointment
:biglaugh:
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See you skipped pointing out what a great job she's doing for the folks who elected her.

See you skipped pointing out what a great job she's doing for the folks who elected her.

What party just elected two 2 under federal indictment and 1 dead pimp???? HMMMM


This year alone, Snipes has been reprimanded by the courts twice: once, in May, for illegally destroying ballots during the 2016 Democratic primary, in violation of both state and federal law; and again, in August, for illegally opening mail-in ballots in secret. How long, we wonder, does it take to establish a pattern?

and in neither case influenced the out come of the election ..... and were investigated and ruled on... another Napoleon of crime created by GOP image machine

What party just elected two 2 under federal indictment and 1 dead pimp???? HMMMM


Makes you wonder just how bad the other options were...hmmm

This year alone, Snipes has been reprimanded by the courts twice: once, in May, for illegally destroying ballots during the 2016 Democratic primary, in violation of both state and federal law; and again, in August, for illegally opening mail-in ballots in secret. How long, we wonder, does it take to establish a pattern?

and in neither case influenced the out come of the election ..... and were investigated and ruled on... another Napoleon of crime created by GOP image machine

Hey . . . violating laws didn't influence the outcome of the election . . . it's all good . . . she's doing a really good job. Illegal aliens are Ok . . . they don't influence anything . . . Russian meddling in our elections didn't influence the outcome of our elections . . . not a problem (but Trump needs to be investigated) . . . it's all good . . . move on and shut the ef up.

Hey . . . violating laws didn't influence the outcome of the election . . . it's all good . . . she's doing a really good job. Illegal aliens are Ok . . . they don't influence anything . . . Russian meddling in our elections didn't influence the outcome of our elections . . . not a problem (but Trump needs to be investigated) . . . it's all good . . . move on and shut the ef up.

As objective as ever
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As objective as ever
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Yup

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President Donald Trump lashed out over his recent trip to Paris in a series of tweets Tuesday, blaming the Secret Service for his cancelled visit to a cemetery for fallen U.S. soldiers in France on Saturday. And tweeting make France great again what a solid guy
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Yup

In Tight Race, Maine Republican Sues To Block State's Ranked-Choice Voting Law


shocking he's a republican would he have sued if he won because of ranked choice voting law ??

in arizona the dem won.. when it looked close guess what happened


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I'm trying to conceive of a clear, conclusory, connection between Trump's tweet and your conclusion.

Can't do it.

You make some big leaps, but don't actually get here from your side of the chasm to the other side.

I'm trying to conceive of a clear, conclusory, connection between Trump's tweet and your conclusion.

Can't do it.

You make some big leaps, but don't actually get here from your side of the chasm to the other side.

I’m fairly certain he’s referring to the fact that the tweet from the president is reinforcing lies about election fraud in Arizona. All while saying those lies justify the need to protect our democracy. So therefore he must be trying to spread lies to bolster his own support and get his base to vote in 2020.

I’m pretty sure that’s what he’s referring to, and it’s not that big a stretch, no matter which side of the matter you fall on
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I’m fairly certain he’s referring to the fact that the tweet from the president is reinforcing lies about election fraud in Arizona. All while saying those lies justify the need to protect our democracy. So therefore he must be trying to spread lies to bolster his own support and get his base to vote in 2020.

I’m pretty sure that’s what he’s referring to, and it’s not that big a stretch, no matter which side of the matter you fall on
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How about he just lies, in an unprescended manner.
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I’m fairly certain he’s referring to the fact that the tweet from the president is reinforcing lies about election fraud in Arizona. All while saying those lies justify the need to protect our democracy. So therefore he must be trying to spread lies to bolster his own support and get his base to vote in 2020.

I’m pretty sure that’s what he’s referring to, and it’s not that big a stretch, no matter which side of the matter you fall on
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Your explanation resembles what wdmso has often mocked--others having to translate what Trump's words mean. But I appreciate that you're certain of what he meant. So, what was Trump lying about in the Tweet wdmso posted?

How about he just lies, in an unprescended manner.
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define "unprescended"

define "unprescended"
It’s the opposite of prescended. Simple
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Your explanation resembles what wdmso has often mocked--others having to translate what Trump's words mean. But I appreciate that you're certain of what he meant. So, what was Trump lying about in the Tweet wdmso posted?


I refer to his cabinet as the others having to translate what Trump's words mean. big difference ,,,, but not surprising you see them as the same


seems your the only person who can't decipher the words of a 6th grader aka Trump... and his nuanced approach? to speaking and tweets >> I forget his supporters think he is a genius for getting in liberals heads ... but why should words no less facts equal meaning

If a sixth grader wrote an essay with this type of punctuation they would never see seventh grade.
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If a sixth grader wrote an essay with this type of punctuation they would never see seventh grade.
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it's a "nuanced" approach" :hihi:

If a sixth grader wrote an essay with this type of punctuation they would never see seventh grade.
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That’s not nice of you to say about the POTUS and his social media posts....
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That’s not nice of you to say about the POTUS and his social media posts....
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Get a cup of coffee and try again
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define "unprescended"

isn't that where the baby comes out ass first

Your explanation resembles what wdmso has often mocked--others having to translate what Trump's words mean. But I appreciate that you're certain of what he meant. So, what was Trump lying about in the Tweet wdmso posted?

I’m glad you appreciate it... I put a lot of work into it
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I’m glad you appreciate it... I put a lot of work into it
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Are you still working on answering my question--what was Trump lying about in the Tweet wdmso posted?

Are you still working on answering my question--what was Trump lying about in the Tweet wdmso posted?

Evidence of voter fraud in Arizona, specifically around signature matches
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Evidence of voter fraud in Arizona, specifically around signature matches
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The Arizona Republican party made this accusation. I don't think that the party was "lying." It may have just been wrong. If Trump referred to the Arizona Republicans belief, does that mean he lied? If being wrong is a lie, then what politician is not a liar?

I refer to his cabinet as the others having to translate what Trump's words mean. big difference ,,,, but not surprising you see them as the same

I distinctly recall you referring to my previous translations of what Trump meant on various topics--for instance my and Scottw's explanation of his comment on what happened the previous day re violence in Sweden. You referred a few times to my, and others here, effort to explain what Trump meant as verbal linguistics. So it wasn't just what Trump's cabinet said that you mocked. And I don't know what "difference" you're talking about here. Nor what I'm seeing as the same. To me, you're sounding like Trump in some of his more opaque comments.

seems your the only person who can't decipher the words of a 6th grader aka Trump... and his nuanced approach? to speaking and tweets >> I forget his supporters think he is a genius for getting in liberals heads ... but why should words no less facts equal meaning

Trump has a college degree and went to military school before that. And, again, your stream of conscious spray of words here needs some translation. I might could do it, but don't care to.

Your facts and words in this post do require some serious translation in order to equal meaning.

Andrew Gillum Concedes to Ron DeSantis in Florida Governor’s Race after recount

so the recount assailed by Republicans, without evidence, as a possible smoke screen for election fraud ...

since they won this race in the recount no more voter fraud??? should we expect more of the same from the GOP in tough elections 2020? Thats it is always Fraud unless we win???

Andrew Gillum Concedes to Ron DeSantis in Florida Governor’s Race after recount

so the recount assailed by Republicans, without evidence, as a possible smoke screen for election fraud ...

since they won this race in the recount no more voter fraud??? should we expect more of the same from the GOP in tough elections 2020? Thats it is always Fraud unless we win???

It seems there was indeed fraud. What offends you about doing the right thing? Your not the only snowflake who gets put off by honesty.
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It seems there was indeed fraud. What offends you about doing the right thing? Your not the only snowflake who gets put off by honesty.
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So you Honestly believe in the voter fraud allegations ... without a shred of proof ....

please identify the fraud you insist was there .... :kewl:


PS i supported the recount due to a close race.. Trump and Scott and this guy and many other GOP candidates across the country were opposed to recounts based on a lie (voter fraud ) yet I am against Honesty OK ! .

If there was a result that was reversed what do you want to call it. If it’s not fraud then just call it whatever you wish and I agree. My point is that only a fool would protest trying to make things right and you are welcome to prove me right.
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Again
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Not to mention perhaps the most blatant acts of voter discrimination in Georgia I've seen in my lifetime by the Republican candidate.

https://www.redstate.com/kimberly_ross/2018/11/17/democrats-claim-abrams-fact-checker-destroys-theory/?utm_source=rsmorningbriefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&bcid=bf6d5580969b1ebc1202d7fd625046d4

If there was a result that was reversed what do you want to call it. If it’s not fraud then just call it whatever you wish and I agree. My point is that only a fool would protest trying to make things right and you are welcome to prove me right.
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prove me right. FYI you need Fact based answers to be right lets start there 1st then try again



If there was a result that was reversed what do you want to call it

what they called it Arizona a win for the person with the most votes ... same as what happened in the Fla recount

The only fools protest trying to make things right were the GOP against the recount claiming Fraud attempting to sow the seed of doubt in the outcome in the election but since they won no more talk of of fraud..?

but you seem not to acknowledge that is what actually happened ... where was the Fraud ??? from the start the Fraud was placed in your head by a lie encouraged and started by Scott and reinforced by the POTUS himself


rick scott statements about the recount

I will not sit idly by while unethical liberals try to steal this election from the great people of Florida.”


Trump on the re count


When people get in line that have absolutely no right to vote and they go around in circles," Trump told the Daily Caller in an interview. "Sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and vote again. Nobody takes anything. It’s really a disgrace what’s going on.”

Thank You for playing the fool,again. Trump holds the strings and makes you dance. A little snowflake puppet boy doing the Trumpty dance.
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After high turnout in last year's midterm elections propelled Democrats to a new House majority and big gains in the states, several Republican-controlled state legislatures are attempting to change voting-related rules in ways that might reduce future voter turnout.

Republican lawmakers in those states say new laws are needed to maintain the integrity of voter rolls and prevent fraud. :bs:


Shocking response .. They dont give up i'll give them that ...

After high turnout in last year's midterm elections propelled Democrats to a new House majority and big gains in the states, several Republican-controlled state legislatures are attempting to change voting-related rules in ways that might reduce future voter turnout.

Republican lawmakers in those states say new laws are needed to maintain the integrity of voter rolls and prevent fraud. :bs:


Shocking response .. They dont give up i'll give them that ...

True voter suppression, and it happens, is evil.. Purely evil.

Requiring id cards isn't, that's not racist, unless the process for getting ids is somehow more cumbersome for blacks than it is for whites.

Voting rights, validation and security are going to become a key issue for everyone moving forward.
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The fact some folks don’t think you need to prove they are not gringos to vote is revealing.
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The fact some folks don’t think you need to prove they are not gringos to vote is revealing.
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as are people who think millions of illegals vote ... we cant even get americans to vote

If you are entitled,you have the option to vote. Simple really

But you want to make it like farm jobs ,where not enough Americans vote so we might as well let the illegals do it....they aren’t taking anything away.
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