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Jim in CT 01-20-2019, 08:41 PM all the outlets broke a story that a bunch of white kids from a catholic school, wearing MAGA hats at the
march for life rally, were hassling a Native American.
the full video showed a very, very different story. amazing. the
media has chugged the spiked kool aid.
like the duke lacrosse case. it was too good to pass up. white, christian kids wearing trump
hats at a pro life rally, smearing them is too juicy to be concerned with the truth.
Slipknot 01-20-2019, 11:12 PM Didn’t stopped the social justice warriors from doxxing the kid
Pathetic really
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Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 07:22 AM Didn’t stopped the social justice warriors from doxxing the kid
Pathetic really
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right. throw a few innocent american kids under the
bus for the sake of advancing The Narrative.
when you compare the initial reports to the unedited video, you gat a sense of what a terrifying spot we’re in, where the media will distort anything to protect liberalism. the kid in the middle, doesn’t look like he moved a muscle
or spoke a syllable, and the guy was banging kid drum and howling like a hyena three inches from his face, THAT is tolerance. but the kid was portrayed as a bigot.
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Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 07:34 AM the kid in the middle, Sandmann, handles it better than you could ask a high school kid to handle that. and it was initially reported that he gotnin the native americans face, when it was the opposite. truth no
longer matters, only the narrative.
and anyone getting their news from CNN or NBC will
learn as much truth as if i watched Sean Hannity. this is where we are. it’s sad.
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wdmso 01-21-2019, 08:12 AM right. throw a few innocent american kids under the
bus for the sake of advancing The Narrative.
when you compare the initial reports to the unedited video, you gat a sense of what a terrifying spot we’re in, where the media will distort anything to protect liberalism. the kid in the middle, doesn’t look like he moved a muscle
or spoke a syllable, and the guy was banging kid drum and howling like a hyena three inches from his face, THAT is tolerance. but the kid was portrayed as a bigot.
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You live in an alternate universe
A new video shows a different side of the encounter between a Native American elder and teens in MAGA hats that's the head line from the media ... (cnn) you say will distort anything to protect liberalism.
Quote the kid in the middle, doesn’t look like he moved a muscle... and you don't see this as an issue a group of kids with seeming with no adult supervision involved in a confrontation
For we'll over an hour returning from participate in the March for Life rally Trump hats and all .. somehow they are just innocent bystanders .
Phillips told CNN's Sara Sidner. "I don't like the word 'hate.' I don't like even saying it, but it was hate unbridled. It was like a storm."
There are more question then answers but I'll go with the oldman''s take on the whole event
Sea Dangles 01-21-2019, 08:18 AM Of course you will....you believed the Ford accusation against Kavanaugh too. Stick to the snowflake handbook and truth be damned.
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spence 01-21-2019, 08:48 AM A Native American elder singing a prayer is “howling like a hyena”
I didn’t think you had it in you Jim. That’s repulsive.
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Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 08:53 AM You live in an alternate universe
A new video shows a different side of the encounter between a Native American elder and teens in MAGA hats that's the head line from the media ... (cnn) you say will distort anything to protect liberalism.
Quote the kid in the middle, doesn’t look like he moved a muscle... and you don't see this as an issue a group of kids with seeming with no adult supervision involved in a confrontation
For we'll over an hour returning from participate in the March for Life rally Trump hats and all .. somehow they are just innocent bystanders .
Phillips told CNN's Sara Sidner. "I don't like the word 'hate.' I don't like even saying it, but it was hate unbridled. It was like a storm."
There are more question then answers but I'll go with the oldman''s take on the whole event
that was the second headline. the first headline, was that the kids confronted the man. you
missed the point, which was how misleading the original reporting was. like trump ordering cohen to
lie, they loved the implication so ran with it, without bothering to see if it happened that way.
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Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 08:53 AM A Native American elder singing a prayer is “howling like a hyena”
I didn’t think you had it in you Jim. That’s repulsive.
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three inches from the face of a kid who was minding his own business? does native american culture require you to be that close to someone who didn’t ask for it? don’t believe so.
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All of you guys are wrong. The video I saw showed a mob of immature high school jocks surround about 5 black people and they were chanting their school football chant or something. Then the Indians came over and tried to diffuse the situation.
Everyone is going to see what they want to see in this video and the most sad thing about it is how divided this country is.
Fascism is alive and thriving in this country.
You want to win and get ahead? Ignore it and love your neighbor. Be kind. Help those less fortunate than you.
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scottw 01-21-2019, 09:04 AM A Native American elder singing a prayer is “howling like a hyena”
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he was being really obnoxious....he could sing his prayer and beat his drum anywhere...he chose to do it inches from a teenage kid's face...you sound so foolish Spence
scottw 01-21-2019, 09:06 AM . The video I saw showed a mob of immature high school jocks surround about 5 black people and they were chanting their school football chant or something. Then the Indians came over and tried to diffuse the situation.
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this is pretty funny
Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 09:42 AM spence that was a
pretty obnoxious way for
me to put that, you’re
right. but it was a confrontation. obviously.
nebe, when the video shows is adults confronting kids, then the kids say they asked their teachers if they could
do the school spirit chant to drown out the adults who were chanting that the kids were racists.
adults confronting kids. because tolerance.
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Sea Dangles 01-21-2019, 09:58 AM Somebody got off the reservation
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Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 10:29 AM initial reports were thatbthe white kids surrounded the
native american, and thatbthe kid in the center stared him down.
nebe, it’s outrageous. the
media crucified this kid to advance The Narrative. the whole
vudeonis t subject to interpretation. this guy confronted the kids, not the other way around.
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Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 10:30 AM how about the women’s anti-jew march? how
much coverage did that get? nothing screams women’s solidarity, like
good ol’ fashioned jew bashing.
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Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 10:33 AM spence, this native american hero told the washington post that the kids surrounded him and that he was just looking to finish his prayer and get out of there. and by jiminy, that was good enough for the washington post.
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Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 10:36 AM the native american portrayed as the victim, called the kids “beastly”, that’s the word he used. even conservative media outlets like the national review ran with it and blew it.
we need to slow down and get the facts. ask the duke lacrosse players why facts matter.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/covington-catholic-high-school-students-smeared-by-mainstream-media-lies-dont-expect-an-apology
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spence 01-21-2019, 10:44 AM how about the women’s anti-jew march? how
much coverage did that get? nothing screams women’s solidarity, like
good ol’ fashioned jew bashing.
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Can you provide a link?
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Slipknot 01-21-2019, 10:56 AM Like I said before, we are in an information civil war
it's here now, been here for a while
Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 11:36 AM Can you provide a link?
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look up why deb washerman schumtz backed out.
the leader of this year’s march, is a huge fan of Farrakhan.
damn jews.
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spence 01-21-2019, 01:08 PM the native american portrayed as the victim, called the kids “beastly”, that’s the word he used. even conservative media outlets like the national review ran with it and blew it.
we need to slow down and get the facts. ask the duke lacrosse players why facts matter.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/covington-catholic-high-school-students-smeared-by-mainstream-media-lies-dont-expect-an-apology
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Seems like the only thing the media missed up front was the other group the kids were in a pissing match with that the elder was trying to diffuse.
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Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 01:21 PM Seems like the only thing the media missed up front was the other group the kids were in a pissing match with that the elder was trying to diffuse.
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The media said the white kids blocked the Native American from passing, when in fact he clearly approached them. He was trying to diffuse the situation, by calling the white kids "beastly"?
The "other group" you refer to, an anti-white, anti-gay black group, was screaming horrible names at the kids for an hour. And the Native American called the kids "beastly"?
I can't speak to his intentions, but he was sure wrong on what took place...and he was obviously confronting that one kid, whose face he screamed in from 3 inches away.
spence 01-21-2019, 02:21 PM The media said the white kids blocked the Native American from passing, when in fact he clearly approached them. He was trying to diffuse the situation, by calling the white kids "beastly"?
The "other group" you refer to, an anti-white, anti-gay black group, was screaming horrible names at the kids for an hour. And the Native American called the kids "beastly"?
I can't speak to his intentions, but he was sure wrong on what took place...and he was obviously confronting that one kid, whose face he screamed in from 3 inches away.
From what I’ve read it sounds like both the kids and the Israelite group were giving each other a lot of crap. Where were the chaperones or maybe they were complicit? I know I wouldn’t let my kids act in such a beastly manner with all the yelling and jumping. Seems like you get a lot of that kind of behavior when mobs get all dressed up in their MAGA gear.
And to help diffuse the situation they’re met by an elder offering a prayer which is summarily mocked by the kids.
Maybe he should be praying for you.
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wdmso 01-21-2019, 02:57 PM From what I’ve read it sounds like both the kids and the Israelite group were giving each other a lot of crap. Where were the chaperones or maybe they were complicit? I know I wouldn’t let my kids act in such a beastly manner with all the yelling and jumping. Seems like you get a lot of that kind of behavior when mobs get all dressed up in their MAGA gear.
And to help diffuse the situation they’re met by an elder offering a prayer which is summarily mocked by the kids.
Maybe he should be praying for you.
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I asked the same questions about chaperones or lack there of allow this to continue for and hour plus .. seems Trumps has motivated everyone to act and speak as he does .. at all ages
Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 03:03 PM From what I’ve read it sounds like both the kids and the Israelite group were giving each other a lot of crap. Where were the chaperones or maybe they were complicit? I know I wouldn’t let my kids act in such a beastly manner with all the yelling and jumping. Seems like you get a lot of that kind of behavior when mobs get all dressed up in their MAGA gear.
And to help diffuse the situation they’re met by an elder offering a prayer which is summarily mocked by the kids.
Maybe he should be praying for you.
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then i stead of reading from the huffington post, watch the video, then you’ll see. the video is there, i presume
you are reading instead, because you know you don’t want to see what’s on the video. go right to the source, watch the video.
the
media is the
enemy of these
kids. they’re the wrong demographic, and the irresponsible
media is going to get someone hurt.
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Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 03:04 PM I asked the same questions about chaperones or lack there of allow this to continue for and hour plus .. seems Trumps has motivated everyone to act and speak as he does .. at all ages
what are you saying these kids were doing, which was trump-like? watch the video, and be specific
please...
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Pete F. 01-21-2019, 03:15 PM look up why deb washerman schumtz backed out.
the leader of this year’s march, is a huge fan of Farrakhan.
damn jews.
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Odd hero for you to have
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/31/debbie-wasserman-schultz-imran-awan-investigation-241177
scottw 01-21-2019, 03:21 PM From what I’ve read it sounds like both the kids and the Israelite group were giving each other a lot of crap. Where were the chaperones or maybe they were complicit? I know I wouldn’t let my kids act in such a beastly manner with all the yelling and jumping. Seems like you get a lot of that kind of behavior when mobs get all dressed up in their MAGA gear.
And to help diffuse the situation they’re met by an elder offering a prayer which is summarily mocked by the kids.
Maybe he should be praying for you.
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you have truly lost your mind :bl:
Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 03:29 PM Odd hero for you to have
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/31/debbie-wasserman-schultz-imran-awan-investigation-241177
oh i don’t think i said she’s a hero, my point was that even she ran away from a liberal women’s march, specifically because of
anti semitism.
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wdmso 01-21-2019, 04:05 PM what are you saying these kids were doing, which was trump-like? watch the video, and be specific
please...
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Every one involved including the adults and these kids and the adults who allowed it to happen. We're acting Trump like
Pete F. 01-21-2019, 04:20 PM oh i don’t think i said she’s a hero, my point was that even she ran away from a liberal women’s march, specifically because of
anti semitism.
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Many people went because just like you supporting Trump, they saw a greater good.
One of the main organizers was a Farrakhan supporter and I think she is ill-advised.
The other one is a Palestinian and I think they deserve a voice.
The mainstream Zionist organizations don't want anyone to speak against Israel and push back.
Attached is an interesting piece written by a woman a few years ago about Israel and Palestine. I think it is worth reading.
https://ethicalfocus.org/the-israel-palestinian-conflict-each-sides-contrasting-narratives/
This country seems to be headed for the same divisions, maybe we also need books for HS students that illustrate the differing viewpoints of Republicans and Democrats rather than just rhetoric from each side.
Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 06:56 PM Every one involved including the adults and these kids and the adults who allowed it to happen. We're acting Trump like
allowed what to happen?
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Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 06:57 PM Many people went because just like you supporting Trump, they saw a greater good.
One of the main organizers was a Farrakhan supporter and I think she is ill-advised.
The other one is a Palestinian and I think they deserve a voice.
The mainstream Zionist organizations don't want anyone to speak against Israel and push back.
Attached is an interesting piece written by a woman a few years ago about Israel and Palestine. I think it is worth reading.
https://ethicalfocus.org/the-israel-palestinian-conflict-each-sides-contrasting-narratives/
This country seems to be headed for the same divisions, maybe we also need books for HS students that illustrate the differing viewpoints of Republicans and Democrats rather than just rhetoric from each side.
so now i’m confused. is it ok to ignore one bad thing ( anti semitism) for the greater good? or is it wrong? liberals seem to think sometimes that’s ok, sometimes it’s not. what’s the verdict?
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Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 08:29 PM to the liberals here...
for an hour, a bunch of black maniacs screamed the
most vile, racist, bigoted epithets at these kids, that you can imagine. the kids were standing there waiting to get in a bus.
enter the native american, who claimed that the white kids were “beasts”, and that the black maniacs were the “prey”, and the media ran with that. because it confirmed what they desperately, desperately want to be true.
these kids got death threats. kids. and there’s. o evidence they did anything malicious. except being white males at a pro life rally wearing maga hats. that’s enough these days.
disgusting.
as usual, they got it exactly wrong.
fake news. but good politics.
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Pete F. 01-21-2019, 09:50 PM so now i’m confused. is it ok to ignore one bad thing ( anti semitism) for the greater good? or is it wrong? liberals seem to think sometimes that’s ok, sometimes it’s not. what’s the verdict?
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One’s one of the organizers of a March
One’s the President
You still don’t see any difference?
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Jim in CT 01-21-2019, 10:06 PM pete, your side is putting The Narrative, ahead of what’s in video evidence, today. this is the duke lacrosse case all over again, the liberal maniacs learned exactly nothing. zip. irrefutable evidence is to be ignored if it doesn’t serve The Narrative. you ignore your own senses when
they contradict The Narrative.
It’s been a rough weekend for the left, and as for the media, I’d
listen to a guy roller skating down main street in a mini skirt and a surgeons mask, before i’d listen to nbc or cnn ( or sean hannity by the way). my god, man. just watch the tape!
these are children. but they were white, catholic, at a pro life rally, wearing maga hats. so they deserve death threats? what the hell is wrong with you people?
the media is
being dangerously reckless.
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Sea Dangles 01-22-2019, 12:26 AM Every one involved including the adults and these kids and the adults who allowed it to happen. We're acting Trump like
This statement is Trump like. Very divisive.
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Jim in CT 01-22-2019, 07:15 AM Every one involved including the adults and these kids and the adults who allowed it to happen. We're acting Trump like
what did the children do, that was trump like? have you seen the full video? black men stood in front of them for an hour, calling them racists, crackers, fagg—s, incest babies, and told their black classmate that his white peers were going to harvest his organs. the kids were just standing there waiting to be picked up by a bus. then this native american, who said the kids were “beasts” and the black maniacs were “prey”, got right in the kids face. he blamed the kids, somehow, and got in their faces, literally. the
native is either an idiot for getting it that wrong, or he was lying. the media ran with it, and launched their deranged mob at the kids, who are receiving death threats.
that’s what happened. there aren’t two sides to this, we have the video. we have the insane statements of the native american.
the media has no credibility, they are all the exact mirror image of sean hannity. they are fake news, they are absolutely the enemy of those children. they are sacrificing those kids’ futures, for The Narrative. they will clearly abandon journalistic standards to advance their agenda, there is
no disputing that anymore. it happened twice this weekend. with buzzfeed and this.
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Pete F. 01-22-2019, 08:47 AM so now i’m confused. is it ok to ignore one bad thing ( anti semitism) for the greater good? or is it wrong? liberals seem to think sometimes that’s ok, sometimes it’s not. what’s the verdict?
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One’s one of the organizers of a March
One’s the President
You still don’t see any difference?
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pete, your side is putting The Narrative, ahead of what’s in video evidence, today. this is the duke lacrosse case all over again, the liberal maniacs learned exactly nothing. zip. irrefutable evidence is to be ignored if it doesn’t serve The Narrative. you ignore your own senses when
they contradict The Narrative.
It’s been a rough weekend for the left, and as for the media, I’d
listen to a guy roller skating down main street in a mini skirt and a surgeons mask, before i’d listen to nbc or cnn ( or sean hannity by the way). my god, man. just watch the tape!
these are children. but they were white, catholic, at a pro life rally, wearing maga hats. so they deserve death threats? what the hell is wrong with you people?
the media is
being dangerously reckless.
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What are you talking about, where did i mention children, I think you have Trumplican Deranged Victim Syndrome bad
I can think of someone who set one whacko off on a bombing mission and another on a mass murder at a synagogue, if you want to discuss "what's wrong with you people" and being dangerously reckless.
That will set your TDVS off again
scottw 01-22-2019, 08:54 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94LMBTg6gAU
scottw 01-22-2019, 09:01 AM I know I wouldn’t let my kids act in such a beastly manner with all the yelling and jumping.
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I know I wouldn't let my grandfather wander around in his pajamas bothering people with his drum....
spence 01-22-2019, 09:06 AM I know I wouldn't let my grandfather wander around in his pajamas bothering people with his drum....
Pathetic and deplorable.
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scottw 01-22-2019, 09:33 AM Pathetic and deplorable.
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:laugha:
Jim in CT 01-22-2019, 09:36 AM Pathetic and deplorable.
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he called the kids beasts, and the black maniacs their
prey. he literally could
not have been more wrong. either it was a colossal honest mistake, or he was lying. i don’t know which it is, but there isn’t a third option.
why any native American would feel compelled to serve in the military after what we did to them, is literally beyond me. so he is (or was) generous, brave, and patriotic. but for him to claim that the kids were the aggressors, is crazy. bonkers.
and when the media ran with the story that the kids blocked his path, when he was the one who got right in their faces, is horrible.
it did look like some of the
kids were mocking him with their dancing, who the hell knows what they were thinking after getting screamed at for an hour
by the black maniacs, and then having this weirdo get 3 inches from the face of a classmate. i saw that as an attempt to provoke, i don’t know how it can be taken any other way, not when you combine it with his statements that the kids were the aggressors and that he was intervening with that in mind. and there’s no sane way for anyone to have thought that the kids were to blame, not at that point. the kids were standing there getting screamed at. they did nothing to the black hate group, the video
makes that crystal clear.
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Pete F. 01-22-2019, 09:56 AM Comical timeline of the latest media BS
Outrage online as a group of white kids in MAGA hats accost a native american protester, just shameful
Hold on! A new two hour video has emerged showing the kids are wholesome, were yelled at by black Israelites and did not-I repeat did not do a racism
That's weird because they did mock the guy
He came at them with a drum
Also there were Crazy Blacks
Phew! There was an initial rush to judgement there, but I think we got it white just in time.
Jim in CT 01-22-2019, 10:08 AM Comical timeline of the latest media BS
Outrage online as a group of white kids in MAGA hats accost a native american protester, just shameful
Hold on! A new two hour video has emerged showing the kids are wholesome, were yelled at by black Israelites and did not-I repeat did not do a racism
That's weird because they did mock the guy
He came at them with a drum
Also there were Crazy Blacks
Phew! There was an initial rush to judgement there, but I think we got it white just in time.
Pete F, the Sandmann kid, the one at the center of all this, was accused of blocking the Native American's path. In fact, we was standing there doing nothing, when the weirdo got in his face. The kid showed amazing confidence and poise, standing there with a smile on his face. He did nothing. And he's getting death threats.
You're parsing the events, cutting and pasting into a sequence that fits your narrative. I have little doubt that some of the teenagers were mocking the Native American - but that was AFTE having the black Israelites screaming at them for an hour, and after having the native American get in their classmate's face.
The kid who stood there smiling, and then had a weirdo get in his face, is receiving death threats. He's a junior in high school. And you have nothing to say about that. Zip.
You're crazy.
The Dad Fisherman 01-22-2019, 10:31 AM Seems Twitter and CNN believe it was "Fake News"
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/tech/twitter-suspends-account-native-american-maga-teens/index.html
Got Stripers 01-22-2019, 10:57 AM My take is I don’t give a f*ck, it’s noise distracting from the real issue, that the government and it’s workers are being held hostage over a campaign promise. I see disrespectful behavior every summer, as I live on the only street allowing public parking for white horse beach in Plymouth, which for decades has been the party beach for the surrounding towns. Want to take a guess what color most of my trouble comes from, whether it’s yelling, swearing in front of the neighborhood kids, throwing their empty beer cans and trash in our yards or peeing in plain sight? Yeah you guessed it white young adults with no respect. One black familiy we have actually given permission to park in our driveway after having a pleasant respectful conversation when they asked where they could legally park and the same is true for another family we think might be Hispanic or Brazilian. I’d say 99% of all the trouble is with young white males.
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Jim in CT 01-22-2019, 11:24 AM My take is I don’t give a f*ck, it’s noise distracting from the real issue, that the government and it’s workers are being held hostage over a campaign promise. I see disrespectful behavior every summer, as I live on the only street allowing public parking for white horse beach in Plymouth, which for decades has been the party beach for the surrounding towns. Want to take a guess what color most of my trouble comes from, whether it’s yelling, swearing in front of the neighborhood kids, throwing their empty beer cans and trash in our yards or peeing in plain sight? Yeah you guessed it white young adults with no respect. One black familiy we have actually given permission to park in our driveway after having a pleasant respectful conversation when they asked where they could legally park and the same is true for another family we think might be Hispanic or Brazilian. I’d say 99% of all the trouble is with young white males.
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you don’t give a f*ck that the media threw high school students under the bus this way? what if that was your son? can you imagine what that family is going through? he got death threats, because the media cares more about slamming Trump supporters, then they care about getting the facts.
at the same time, it’s time to end the shutdown. pelosi isnt going to budge, so there’s no point to it. open the government, let trump declare his emergency, order the wall, and head to court to fight it out.
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The Dad Fisherman 01-22-2019, 11:51 AM Want to take a guess what color most of my trouble comes from, whether it’s yelling, swearing in front of the neighborhood kids, throwing their empty beer cans and trash in our yards or peeing in plain sight? Yeah you guessed it white young adults with no respect. One black familiy we have actually given permission to park in our driveway after having a pleasant respectful conversation when they asked where they could legally park and the same is true for another family we think might be Hispanic or Brazilian. I’d say 99% of all the trouble is with young white males.
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This couldn't be because Plymouth and surrounding towns are predominantly White, It's gotta be because White people are the problem.
Plymouth - The racial makeup of the town was 93.8% White, 2.0% Black or African American (congratulations, you are the most diverse town)
Kingston - The racial makeup of the town was 97.3% white, 0.1% Black or African American
Carver - The racial makeup of the town was 95.78% White, 1.22% African American
Sandwich - The racial makeup of the town was 97.75% White, 0.38% African American
spence 01-22-2019, 11:51 AM Seems Twitter and CNN believe it was "Fake News"
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/tech/twitter-suspends-account-native-american-maga-teens/index.html
Did you bother to read your own link?
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The Dad Fisherman 01-22-2019, 11:59 AM Did you bother to read your own link?
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Yeah, I did
"A spokesperson for Twitter told CNN Business, "Deliberate attempts to manipulate the public conversation on Twitter by using misleading account information is a violation of the Twitter Rules."
or you could just go with the title
"This MAGA loser gleefully bothering a Native American protester at the Indigenous Peoples March" I'm pretty sure that it has been determined that the old guy approached them and started bothering them.
spence 01-22-2019, 12:06 PM Yeah, I did
"A spokesperson for Twitter told CNN Business, "Deliberate attempts to manipulate the public conversation on Twitter by using misleading account information is a violation of the Twitter Rules."
or you could just go with the title
"This MAGA loser gleefully bothering a Native American protester at the Indigenous Peoples March" I'm pretty sure that it has been determined that the old guy approached them and started bothering them.
They didn’t suspend the account for fake news, it was because the owner was misrepresenting who they were.
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Got Stripers 01-22-2019, 12:11 PM This couldn't be because Plymouth and surrounding towns are predominantly White, It's gotta be because White people are the problem.
Plymouth - The racial makeup of the town was 93.8% White, 2.0% Black or African American (congratulations, you are the most diverse town)
Kingston - The racial makeup of the town was 97.3% white, 0.1% Black or African American
Carver - The racial makeup of the town was 95.78% White, 1.22% African American
Sandwich - The racial makeup of the town was 97.75% White, 0.38% African American
Do you live on the street, no you don’t and I can tell you for a fact, those numbers aren’t what I see for people of color. In fact there aren’t many public beaches where these minority’s are coming from, I think the black family is from Brockton and the other from Taunton, but feel free to quote stats that mean nothing. So should six flags or the local water parks be exactly a match for the town make up, what a stupid argument that one is.
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Jim in CT 01-22-2019, 12:34 PM This couldn't be because Plymouth and surrounding towns are predominantly White, It's gotta be because White people are the problem.
Plymouth - The racial makeup of the town was 93.8% White, 2.0% Black or African American (congratulations, you are the most diverse town)
Kingston - The racial makeup of the town was 97.3% white, 0.1% Black or African American
Carver - The racial makeup of the town was 95.78% White, 1.22% African American
Sandwich - The racial makeup of the town was 97.75% White, 0.38% African American
Nope, you're right, it's because white people s*ck. MSNBC said so.
Jim in CT 01-22-2019, 12:40 PM I'm pretty sure that it has been determined that the old guy approached them and started bothering them.
This has been shown beyond any and all doubt. The old guy stated (and that was good enough for the media!) that the kids were harassing the black Israelite group, which is about as accurate as saying that the jews in the Warsaw ghetto were harassing the Nazi SS troops.
And today, Kentucky police told the kids' catholic school not top open for security reasons. ll that liberal tolerance on display.
We have nuts on the right. They mostly operate on the fringe, they aren't mainstream.
A banner weekend for liberalism. The entire left bought into the discredited Buzzfeed report. Then the liberals had a women's anti-Jew march. Then the entire left (TV pundits, journalists, celebrities)
mercilessly attacked children for wearing MAGA hats and because they stood there and took a verbal assault from black hate group. That was their crime.
Yes sir, a banner weekend for liberals.
These morons learned NOTHING from the Duke lacrosse case, and they have the nerve to be offended when Trump calls them out for being politically motivated liars.
Got Stripers 01-22-2019, 12:46 PM Nope, you're right, it's because white people s*ck. MSNBC said so.
You two are talking out your arses, without one bit of local knowledge of my situation, just so typical. My experiences for over a decade PROVE that I’ve had dozens of run ins with drunken white males and surprisingly the same number with white girls friends gone wild, but NOT one bad experience with people of color. Did I get that from MSNBC no, did I read it on CNN no, it’s my life experience over a decade of interaction with hundreds every weekend of a diverse sampling of primarily young adults.
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Jim in CT 01-22-2019, 12:56 PM You two are talking out your arses, without one bit of local knowledge of my situation, just so typical. My experiences for over a decade PROVE that I’ve had dozens of run ins with drunken white males and surprisingly the same number with white girls friends gone wild, but NOT one bad experience with people of color. Did I get that from MSNBC no, did I read it on CNN no, it’s my life experience over a decade of interaction with hundreds every weekend of a diverse sampling of primarily young adults.
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No, you are talking out of your arse. Your personal observations don't say ANYTHING about teenagers in KY. If you saw whites behaving badly, boo rah for you. That doesn't mean these kids in KY did anything wrong.
"but NOT one bad experience with people of color."
Again, good for you. Does that mean the blacks harassing children on the video, are not responsible for their actions?
GS, I went to Chicago last month for work. I didn't get shot, I didn't see anyone else get shot., and I didn't shoot anyone. Using your logic, does that mean Chicago doesn't have a problem with gun violence? That people who say it does, are wrong? See how stupid that sounds?
Pete F. 01-22-2019, 01:03 PM Pete F, the Sandmann kid, the one at the center of all this, was accused of blocking the Native American's path. In fact, we was standing there doing nothing, when the weirdo got in his face. The kid showed amazing confidence and poise, standing there with a smile on his face. He did nothing. And he's getting death threats.
You're parsing the events, cutting and pasting into a sequence that fits your narrative. I have little doubt that some of the teenagers were mocking the Native American - but that was AFTE having the black Israelites screaming at them for an hour, and after having the native American get in their classmate's face.
The kid who stood there smiling, and then had a weirdo get in his face, is receiving death threats. He's a junior in high school. And you have nothing to say about that. Zip.
You're crazy.
Said the TDVS sufferer
What I posted was:
Comical timeline of the latest media BS
wearing maga hats.
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This - without the hats this is not even a story.
Got Stripers 01-22-2019, 01:28 PM No, you are talking out of your arse. Your personal observations don't say ANYTHING about teenagers in KY. If you saw whites behaving badly, boo rah for you. That doesn't mean these kids in KY did anything wrong.
"but NOT one bad experience with people of color."
Again, good for you. Does that mean the blacks harassing children on the video, are not responsible for their actions?
GS, I went to Chicago last month for work. I didn't get shot, I didn't see anyone else get shot., and I didn't shoot anyone. Using your logic, does that mean Chicago doesn't have a problem with gun violence? That people who say it does, are wrong? See how stupid that sounds?
Did I say it relates to those teens, please quote me where I said that, please don't put words in my mouth. Just relating a story, that from my experiences locally, people of color seem to display respect, while the white youth seem to be anything but respectful. Gee wiz I got off the rambling every moving target these threads always seem to have, sorry boss I'll stay on point next time.
Jim in CT 01-22-2019, 01:33 PM This - without the hats this is not even a story.
you are probably correct.
i’d like to know what the native american was drinking, when he concluded that the kids were harassing the black hate group.
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The Dad Fisherman 01-22-2019, 01:33 PM Do you live on the street, no you don’t and I can tell you for a fact, those numbers aren’t what I see for people of color. In fact there aren’t many public beaches where these minority’s are coming from, I think the black family is from Brockton and the other from Taunton, but feel free to quote stats that mean nothing. So should six flags or the local water parks be exactly a match for the town make up, what a stupid argument that one is.
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You made the claim that white people are the problem, I'm just showing you that the reason for that is probably that a vast majority of people from your town and surrounding towns are white, so your chances that the A-holes you'll have to deal with will be white is greatly increased.
But I'm glad you met a couple of Black families that go there, that totally blows a hole in my theory that out of the 100,000 white folks surrounding the beach, that your chances of a few of them being A-holes, is just a stupid argument :rolleyes:
Jim in CT 01-22-2019, 01:46 PM Did I say it relates to those teens, please quote me where I said that, please don't put words in my mouth. Just relating a story, that from my experiences locally, people of color seem to display respect, while the white youth seem to be anything but respectful. Gee wiz I got off the rambling every moving target these threads always seem to have, sorry boss I'll stay on point next time.
so what was the point? i haven’t heard anyone say that whites are always innocent, and blacks are always guilty. but in this case, we have videotape which shows that’s the case. i don’t get why there’s debate here. we know what happened. just because some don’t happen to like themoutcome, means we have to cloud the facts?
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Pete F. 01-22-2019, 02:00 PM so what was the point? i haven’t heard anyone say that whites are always innocent, and blacks are always guilty. but in this case, we have videotape which shows that’s the case. i don’t get why there’s debate here. we know what happened. just because some don’t happen to like themoutcome, means we have to cloud the facts?
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Glad to hear you got that white, it's certainly not cloudy in your mind.
I can find almost any interpretation someone would like of what happened there and each claims to be true, pick your flavor, I see you chose vanilla, I'll go for Neapolitan.
Just in case that's too deep for you, Neapolitan is vanilla, chocolate and strawberry, since as usual there some truth to all sides in a story.
Got Stripers 01-22-2019, 02:09 PM You made the claim that white people are the problem, I'm just showing you that the reason for that is probably that a vast majority of people from your town and surrounding towns are white, so your chances that the A-holes you'll have to deal with will be white is greatly increased.
But I'm glad you met a couple of Black families that go there, that totally blows a hole in my theory that out of the 100,000 white folks surrounding the beach, that your chances of a few of them being A-holes, is just a stupid argument :rolleyes:
See there you go spouting an argument based on a local dynamic you just don't understand, probably only 20% of those on this public beach on the weekend are even Plymouth residents or adjoining communities. Kind of like Trump spouting theories about illegal aliens and the percentages of criminals included in the mix or drugs coming over the southern border, the shear ignorance of the local dynamics means you really can't make certain arguments, at least not to those people who do have the facts.
The Dad Fisherman 01-22-2019, 02:18 PM See there you go spouting an argument based on a local dynamic you just don't understand, probably only 20% of those on this public beach on the weekend are even Plymouth residents or adjoining communities. Kind of like Trump spouting theories about illegal aliens and the percentages of criminals included in the mix or drugs coming over the southern border, the shear ignorance of the local dynamics means you really can't make certain arguments, at least not to those people who do have the facts.
How about you actually put up some facts, you say probably 20% are residents. Probably is not a fact. Did you poll every person that uses the beach every weekend? Do you personally know all 100,000 people from Plymouth and the surrounding communities? Do you have a single piece of tangible evidence that dis-proves what I'm saying and validates what you're saying?
At least I posted some actual facts on the demographics, to back up what I'm saying.
Keep spouting off about race, be part of the problem instead of the solution. You are no better that the POTUS.
wdmso 01-22-2019, 02:22 PM This - without the hats this is not even a story.
People wear hats with logos for a reason .. they weren’t worn for fashion or keeping the sun of your head or having a bad hair day ..
Those hats have meaning not all bad but not all good
But leave it Jim to say it’s just a hat
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Jim in CT 01-22-2019, 02:50 PM Glad to hear you got that white, it's certainly not cloudy in your mind.
I can find almost any interpretation someone would like of what happened there and each claims to be true, pick your flavor, I see you chose vanilla, I'll go for Neapolitan.
Just in case that's too deep for you, Neapolitan is vanilla, chocolate and strawberry, since as usual there some truth to all sides in a story.
if it’s not clear to you what happened, that necessarily means that outcome is more important to you, than facts. you are willing to ignore what actually happened, to get the result you want ( smear the conservatives). even if we are talking about kids.
have fun with that condition, jesus.
the black maniacs were disgusting. the kids did nothing to them, their crime, as the video makes obvious, was being white and wearing maga hats.
the native american ( by virtue of claiming the kids were the aggressors) is either an idiot or a liar, i have no way of
knowing. but it’s one of those binary choices, there isn’t a third choice.
the kid at the center of this, who stood motionless while a weirdo chanted three inches from his face, was accused of blocking the path of the native american. we know that’s not what happened. he was standing there, the native american camemup to him. and got right in his face.
and this kid who did absolutely nothing wrong, is painted all over the world as a racist bully, has received death threats, and his school is closed because it’s not safe.
because of liberal
tolerance.
ironic that it happened on MLK weekend, when we celebrate a man who asked us to ignore skin color. is that what liberals are doing today? or do they see EVERYTHING through the prism of race?
have fun responding to that.
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Got Stripers 01-22-2019, 03:08 PM How about you actually put up some facts, you say probably 20% are residents. Probably is not a fact. Did you poll every person that uses the beach every weekend? Do you personally know all 100,000 people from Plymouth and the surrounding communities? Do you have a single piece of tangible evidence that dis-proves what I'm saying and validates what you're saying?
At least I posted some actual facts on the demographics, to back up what I'm saying.
Keep spouting off about race, be part of the problem instead of the solution. You are no better that the POTUS.
Actually yes we did, Peg was commissioned by the town and spent two weekends with a clicker counting and polling, so there goes that retort. The town used that data to throw out the idea of building rest rooms on the beach, based on numbers and local. They threw up some portable potties instead, but we have a pretty good idea of the usage, she's been here 35 years and I'm in it for over ten, but I suspect that because you can go on a website and get the % of white in the surrounding communities you know the answer to why all the confrontations are with white males or their loud mouth girl friends; you don't know jack sh*t about this dynamic.
Pete F. 01-22-2019, 03:26 PM if it’s not clear to you what happened, that necessarily means that outcome is more important to you, than facts. you are willing to ignore what actually happened, to get the result you want ( smear the conservatives). even if we are talking about kids.
have fun with that condition, jesus.
the black maniacs were disgusting. the kids did nothing to them, their crime, as the video makes obvious, was being white and wearing maga hats.
the native american ( by virtue of claiming the kids were the aggressors) is either an idiot or a liar, i have no way of
knowing. but it’s one of those binary choices, there isn’t a third choice.
the kid at the center of this, who stood motionless while a weirdo chanted three inches from his face, was accused of blocking the path of the native american. we know that’s not what happened. he was standing there, the native american camemup to him. and got right in his face.
and this kid who did absolutely nothing wrong, is painted all over the world as a racist bully, has received death threats, and his school is closed because it’s not safe.
because of liberal
tolerance.
ironic that it happened on MLK weekend, when we celebrate a man who asked us to ignore skin color. is that what liberals are doing today? or do they see EVERYTHING through the prism of race?
have fun responding to that.
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5) Black Israelites screaming their beliefs, exercising their First Amendmant rights
240) White teenagers, some number of whom did a Haka in response to the black guys, well a bad imitation (perhaps you don't know what a War Haka is or the traditional meanings behind them, I assume it was some variation of a peruperu, I won't get into the cultural appropriation BS)
1 Native American Vietnam veteran with a drum
and the white kid with the MAGA hat was terrified
and all the media spinning it every which way
As I said before
Glad to hear you got that white, it's certainly not cloudy in your mind.
The Dad Fisherman 01-22-2019, 03:43 PM Actually yes we did, Peg was commissioned by the town and spent two weekends with a clicker counting and polling, so there goes that retort. The town used that data to throw out the idea of building rest rooms on the beach, based on numbers and local. They threw up some portable potties instead, but we have a pretty good idea of the usage, she's been here 35 years and I'm in it for over ten, but I suspect that because you can go on a website and get the % of white in the surrounding communities you know the answer to why all the confrontations are with white males or their loud mouth girl friends; you don't know jack sh*t about this dynamic.
Ooooohh two weekends with a clicker, did she keep track of percentages of white vs Minorities? How did she know they were not from the surrounding communities? Where are the numbers? You were the one spouting about having facts, so let me see them. So far I’ve seen none.
Are these A-holes you speak of a-holes because they are white or because their parents raised little A-holes? I’d like to believe it’s the latter.
Claiming someone is an A-hole based on the color of their skin is pretty racist you know
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I was always told the correct terminology is Mass-hole, that it is typically bred into people and their heritage is very apparent when they are behind the wheel of a motor vehicle, near a sports arena or broadcast. ;)
Got Stripers 01-22-2019, 05:19 PM Ooooohh two weekends with a clicker, did she keep track of percentages of white vs Minorities? How did she know they were not from the surrounding communities? Where are the numbers? You were the one spouting about having facts, so let me see them. So far I’ve seen none.
Are these A-holes you speak of a-holes because they are white or because their parents raised little A-holes? I’d like to believe it’s the latter.
Claiming someone is an A-hole based on the color of their skin is pretty racist you know
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Two weekends in the summer is a sampling of approximately 1200 people, but clearly this is a circular debate, where you are right and I’m wrong so we put end it here.
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spence 01-22-2019, 06:36 PM have fun responding to that.
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Well, you got most everything wrong. Watch the full video.
The Black Israelite group of maybe 4 or 5 were hurling insults at everyone, they were just trying to provoke people to pay attention to them. The kids started coming up, a group of 240 or formed and started yelling back, then frenetically jumping all over, it was then the elder stepped in as by his stated reasoning he thought a mob mentality may break out and there could be violence. I've seen groups turn violent like this, you don't see it coming and suddenly you're in it.
The elder just walked towards the crowd with some others drumming behind him. The kid who was laughing before takes a position to stare him down with a smirk on his face. You wouldn't do this unless you're trying to make a power play. The MAGA hat is significant, if this kid is a Trump fan he obviously doesn't mind Trump's disrespect toward Native Americans. Actually the kids decked out head to Trump gear all look like they're trying to provoke.
This isn't end of times stuff, but the initial response to the video wasn't that far off. That the kid's parents hired a PR FIRM to write his response is pretty telling. What a missed teaching moment.
And again, where were the adults? If they had been doing their job they would have moved the kids away for their own safety.
wdmso 01-22-2019, 08:10 PM Trump backs students from Lincoln memorial confrontation
Nick Sandmann and the students of Covington have become symbols of Fake News and how evil it can be.
SAD When you start using the children to spread your misinformation
Shall we Start the Trump Youth to complete MAGA
Pete F. 01-22-2019, 08:25 PM Here’s my final post on this
If you know the Covington HS kids, discuss it with them
If you know the Black Israelites, discuss it with them
If you know the Native American drummer, talk to him
Keep a open mind, people’s memories are driven by their experiences
If you put these people in a room, they would very likely find common ground
That is what made America great, not politicians, the media or people ranting on the internet.
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Sea Dangles 01-22-2019, 08:26 PM Out of all parties involved it looks to me that the kids showed the most restraint. Funny how Wayne bought the central media excuse of racism,but unfortunately typical in today’s climate of fake news.
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wdmso 01-22-2019, 08:45 PM Out of all parties involved it looks to me that the kids showed the most restraint. Funny how Wayne bought the central media excuse of racism,but unfortunately typical in today’s climate of fake news.
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the White House has reached out to host the students. Sandmann said, "The President wants to send a plane down to get us."
Trump is using the incident because of sagging approval ratings: “By focusing on an issue that motivates his base instead of on the shutdown, for which he’s broadly taking the blame, there is little political downside for the president.”
Didn't write it but I am sure it's fake news because it's spot on
Ps where did I mention racism ?
The Dad Fisherman 01-22-2019, 08:51 PM Here’s my final post on this
If you know the Covington HS kids, discuss it with them
If you know the Black Israelites, discuss it with them
If you know the Native American drummer, talk to him
Keep a open mind, people’s memories are driven by their experiences
If you put these people in a room, they would very likely find common ground
That is what made America great, not politicians, the media or people ranting on the internet.
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Well Said
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Sea Dangles 01-22-2019, 09:04 PM the White House has reached out to host the students. Sandmann said, "The President wants to send a plane down to get us."
Trump is using the incident because of sagging approval ratings: “By focusing on an issue that motivates his base instead of on the shutdown, for which he’s broadly taking the blame, there is little political downside for the president.”
Didn't write it but I am sure it's fake news because it's spot on
Ps where did I mention racism ?
Keep the blinders on and stay in lock step with your party. They need guys like you to maintain their image.
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scottw 01-23-2019, 06:57 AM Well Said
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so you are saying he's "white"?
that media/leftist narrative sure feel apart quickly.....I guess when the black Israelites are preaching love like this
Robby Soave of Reason notes:
"They call them crackers, faggots, and pedophiles. At the 1:20 mark (which comes after the Phillips incident) they call one of the few black students the n-word and tell him that his friends are going to murder him and steal his organs. At the 1:25 mark, they complain that “you give faggots rights,” which prompted booing from the students. Throughout the video they threaten the kids with violence, and attempt to goad them into attacking first.
Other choice insults that were lobbed at the Covington students — and anyone who had the misfortune of passing by — included “a bunch of incest babies,” “dirty ass little crackers” and “coon.”
And when Screaming Chief Banging Drum-in-Face is a habitual offender
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/nathan-phillips-rally-attempted-to-disrupt-mass-at-dcs-national-shrine-91038
it becomes obvious who the "adult" crazy leftist activists acting like children are.... and.... who the children are......
nice to see the left targeting children now....:jester:
The Dad Fisherman 01-23-2019, 08:10 AM so you are saying he's "white"?
:
:huh:
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Jim in CT 01-23-2019, 08:14 AM Well, you got most everything wrong. Watch the full video.
The Black Israelite group of maybe 4 or 5 were hurling insults at everyone, they were just trying to provoke people to pay attention to them. The kids started coming up, a group of 240 or formed and started yelling back, then frenetically jumping all over, it was then the elder stepped in as by his stated reasoning he thought a mob mentality may break out and there could be violence. I've seen groups turn violent like this, you don't see it coming and suddenly you're in it.
The elder just walked towards the crowd with some others drumming behind him. The kid who was laughing before takes a position to stare him down with a smirk on his face. You wouldn't do this unless you're trying to make a power play. The MAGA hat is significant, if this kid is a Trump fan he obviously doesn't mind Trump's disrespect toward Native Americans. Actually the kids decked out head to Trump gear all look like they're trying to provoke.
This isn't end of times stuff, but the initial response to the video wasn't that far off. That the kid's parents hired a PR FIRM to write his response is pretty telling. What a missed teaching moment.
And again, where were the adults? If they had been doing their job they would have moved the kids away for their own safety.
i can’t imagine what tape you saw, that showed the kids “coming up” to anyone in that fashion. have you been painting inside with the windows shut? you need to open the windows a crack.
i’d also like to know where the chaperones were. but the kids did nothing wrong. the black israelites did, as did the native american.
these are children spence, and they are receiving death threats. kudos to you and your ilk.
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scottw 01-23-2019, 08:14 AM :huh:
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lib lingo.....
Glad to hear you got that white, it's certainly not cloudy in your mind.
5)
As I said before
Glad to hear you got that white, it's certainly not cloudy in your mind.
Jim in CT 01-23-2019, 08:15 AM Here’s my final post on this
If you know the Covington HS kids, discuss it with them
If you know the Black Israelites, discuss it with them
If you know the Native American drummer, talk to him
Keep a open mind, people’s memories are driven by their experiences
If you put these people in a room, they would very likely find common ground
That is what made America great, not politicians, the media or people ranting on the internet.
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i don’t disagree with any of that. but you left out the biggest thing, which was the glee with which the media threw these kids to the wolves. what if that was your
son? he’s someone’s son.
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Jim in CT 01-23-2019, 08:17 AM soence, please show
me a video clip where the smiling kid “took a position” in front of this guy. because what i saw was this kid stationary, not
moving, and the elder got right in his face.
you’re not rational, you can’t be reasoned with.
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scottw 01-23-2019, 08:22 AM and who "diffuses" a situation by getting up in someone's face like that?
scottw 01-23-2019, 08:23 AM you’re not rational, you can’t be reasoned with.
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we've known this for some time :rotf2:
Jim in CT 01-23-2019, 08:42 AM we've known this for some time :rotf2:
but usually in stuff that’s a judgment call. here, we have videotape of what actually happened. he can’t accept that, because it doesn’t serve his agenda.
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Jim in CT 01-23-2019, 08:44 AM People wear hats with logos for a reason .. they weren’t worn for fashion or keeping the sun of your head or having a bad hair day ..
Those hats have meaning not all bad but not all good
But leave it Jim to say it’s just a hat
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what have i ever said, that would
make you think i’d deny that hat has meaning? it’s support for trump, obviously. and for liberals, it’s a bulls-eye, and permission to target whoever is wearing it, even a kid.
i responded to your statement that it’s just a hat. now, are you ok with what happened to these children? did they deserve this? bomb threats at the school, death threats to specific
kids?
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