i don’t watch hardly any cable news anymore, but this guy gets it. the leftbis more than eager to unleash their mob at children, if it serves the narrative.

also the native american guy was stopped recently by security, trying to enter a catholic church during mass, where he planned to protest. so he has a history of anti catholic bigotry. andnhe was more than bonkers to suggest that the kids were harassing that black hate group.

we are in a dangerous place, and regardless of which party you align with, if you’re not sickened and horrified by what was done to these children, you just don’t get what adults are supposed to be about.



https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-theres-no-sympathy-for-covington-catholic-teens-in-americas-newsrooms

Short version there was 3-4 groups there, each doing something provocative to varying degrees. It ended with Chants and School buses, no arrests and nobody hurt. That's good these days, right? If Antifa had been there those kids would have been creamed. Because Antifa are the Good Nazis.

As for Phillips, he seems to be a habitual protester, seeking to be seen or heard by plan. He is also being hailed by the media and as the aggrieved "Vietnam Vet". Apparently he went AWOL three times in his Marine service as a Refrigerator Mechanic, 72-76, before being discharged as a private. Never having gone overseas. I don't know what a Ranger Recon is but I don't think it was a ReferMech.

In his defense he has said he is a Vietnam "Time" veteran, and I do not think he has said ever he was a Vietnam veteran. That is something the media has likely assumed and carried with.

Short version there was 3-4 groups there, each doing something provocative to varying degrees. It ended with Chants and School buses, no arrests and nobody hurt. That's good these days, right? If Antifa had been there those kids would have been creamed. Because Antifa are the Good Nazis.

As for Phillips, he seems to be a habitual protester, seeking to be seen or heard by plan. He is also being hailed by the media and as the aggrieved "Vietnam Vet". Apparently he went AWOL three times in his Marine service as a Refrigerator Mechanic, 72-76, before being discharged as a private. Never having gone overseas. I don't know what a Ranger Recon is but I don't think it was a ReferMech.

In his defense he has said he is a Vietnam "Time" veteran, and I do not think he has said ever he was a Vietnam veteran. That is something the media has likely assumed and carried with.

agreed, except the short version needs to include how willing the left was to sick the hounds on these kids. there are kooks out there on both sides, and we all know that, so the media has a responsibility to use their platforms responsibly. they aren’t. and it could
lead to tragedy.

how
many times does the
media recklessly jump the gun on stuff like this, before they get the facts first? lives get ruined from things like this.
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I don't know what we're all worried about...my new heartthrob, AOC just decided the world has 12 years to live...guess we can all just start partying like it's 2031 :kewl: :gu:

I don't know what we're all worried about...my new heartthrob, AOC just decided the world has 12 years to live...guess we can all just start partying like it's 2031 :kewl: :gu:

i don’t think she’s going to too many MENSA picnics.
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i don’t think she’s going to too many MENSA picnics.
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I love her...she's fun :uhuh:

Short version there was 3-4 groups there, each doing something provocative to varying degrees. It ended with Chants and School buses, no arrests and nobody hurt. That's good these days, right? If Antifa had been there those kids would have been creamed. Because Antifa are the Good Nazis.
I'm not sure how beating a drum and singing a prayer is that provocative. I think the bigger risk was if the kids continued to get amped up and someone throws a water bottle or something at the Black Israelites and the place explodes. Watching the full video you can hear bystanders talking about a mob forming.

As for Phillips, he seems to be a habitual protester, seeking to be seen or heard by plan. He is also being hailed by the media and as the aggrieved "Vietnam Vet". Apparently he went AWOL three times in his Marine service as a Refrigerator Mechanic, 72-76, before being discharged as a private. Never having gone overseas. I don't know what a Ranger Recon is but I don't think it was a ReferMech.
Well, he's an activist so I would assume he's into protesting.

In his defense he has said he is a Vietnam "Time" veteran, and I do not think he has said ever he was a Vietnam veteran. That is something the media has likely assumed and carried with.
I don't think most people delineate between a Vietnam Veteran and a Vietnam Combat Veteran. Technically speaking if you were active duty and discharged honorably you're a Vet if you were in country or not.

I'm not sure how beating a drum and singing a prayer is that provocative. I think the bigger risk was if the kids continued to get amped up and someone throws a water bottle or something at the Black Israelites and the place explodes. Watching the full video you can hear bystanders talking about a mob forming.


Well, he's an activist so I would assume he's into protesting.


I don't think most people delineate between a Vietnam Veteran and a Vietnam Combat Veteran. Technically speaking if you were active duty and discharged honorably you're a Vet if you were in country or not.

"I'm not sure how beating a drum and singing a prayer is that provocative"

When you do it three inches away from the face of a child who is standing there doing absolutely nothing, it's provocative, and a major d*ckhead move. Furthermore, Phillips said the kids were the ones harassing the Black Israelites (not possible for a sane person to reach that conclusion).

"Well, he's an activist so I would assume he's into protesting"

Especially against Catholics, as it turns out. Maybe he's an anti Catholic bigot? He has no quarrel with bullying children. If he says the kids were bothering the black group, he's either crazy or a liar. Those are the choices.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/22/nathan-phillips-tried-disrupt-basilica-national-sh/

I'm not sure how beating a drum and singing a prayer is that provocative.

Spence...if you got that close to my face yelling and banging a drum I promise you'd be looking up from the pavement wondering what hit you...and that would be your fault not mine :wave:

Spence...if you got that close to my face yelling and banging a drum I promise you'd be looking up from the pavement wondering what hit you...and that would be your fault not mine :wave:
Good luck with that.
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Wasn't there a movie a few years ago called girls fight?
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I don't know what we're all worried about...my new heartthrob, AOC just decided the world has 12 years to live...guess we can all just start partying like it's 2031 :kewl: :gu:

12 years? Dude we are already dead from Net Neutrality, remember?

I'm not sure how beating a drum and singing a prayer is that provocative. I think the bigger risk was if the kids continued to get amped up and someone throws a water bottle or something at the Black Israelites and the place explodes. Watching the full video you can hear bystanders talking about a mob forming.


Well, he's an activist so I would assume he's into protesting.


I don't think most people delineate between a Vietnam Veteran and a Vietnam Combat Veteran. Technically speaking if you were active duty and discharged honorably you're a Vet if you were in country or not.


So you watched the video? Who was at fault? Who was the mob?

Most "activists" I've seen leave a lot to be desired.

So you watched the video? Who was at fault? Who was the mob?

Most "activists" I've seen leave a lot to be desired.
I’ve watched everything including the full length video. I posted my analysis in the other thread.

The Black Isrealites have fault, the kids have fault and most importantly their school has fault. I don’t see how the native Americans have fault if anything they helped diffuse a situation.

Some rational perspective from clergy.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/opinions/maga-hats-dont-belong-on-a-catholic-school-trip-beck/index.html
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Good luck with that.
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when you aren't allowing your kid to jump around and chant his school song and have fun...also teach him this important life lesson...one of the best ways to not get punched in your face is to stay out of other people's faces...now I know your idol told the sheep to go out and get in peoples faces...but that was very bad advise :hihi:

I don’t see how the native Americans have fault if anything they helped diffuse a situation.



you are hopeless

Good luck with that.
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Do you have a durable face Jeff?
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Spence, your Native American hero was stopped as he tried to disrupt a Catholic mass. God forbid he just let them worship in peace, nope, he has the right to bother everyone he feels inclined to bother, we all have to accommodate him, never the other way around.

Spence, your Native American hero was stopped as he tried to disrupt a Catholic mass. .

shhhh....he was diffusing

Do you have a durable face Jeff?
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Well, back in the day I trained with Olympic level fighters. Spit a lot of blood but I could hold my own. My face survived so I guess it must be pretty durable.
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you are hopeless

He is.

Spence, you are willfully ignoring the facts, ignoring what actually happened, and ignoring empiricism, to advance what you desperately want to be true...that the white catholic boys from middle America, attending a pro life rally and wearing Trump hats, are bad.

The kid at the center of this, Sandmann, was standing there doing nothing. This whack job agitator who obviously hates Catholics, started howling and banging a drum, three inches from his face. The kid didn't move a muscle. He didn't move an inch. And he is culpable somehow? That idiot hen on NBC who interviewed him, said "it's aggressive, standing there".

So when Phillips got in his face, the kid was supposed to leave the spot he was in, because of his skin color and genatalia?

Just what MLK would have wanted. Right? No irony there!

You are hopeless, you are beyond any and all hope.

He is.

Spence, you are willfully ignoring the facts



now we know he's sustained a lot of blows to the head from when he was a punching bag....have mercy

now we know he's sustained a lot of blows to the head from when he was a punching bag....have mercy

And everything this Phillips guy said about the account, is proven to be a lie by the video...

now we know he's sustained a lot of blows to the head from when he was a punching bag....have mercy

Joy Behar got it exactly correct, did you hear what she said? She said liberals always jump the gun in these situations, and ignore evidence in favor of their stereotypes, because of how maniacally they hate Trump. She said it, and my god if she didn't get one right.

Well, back in the day I trained with Olympic level fighters. Spit a lot of blood but I could hold my own. My face survived so I guess it must be pretty durable.
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I bet you have spit a lot of things. Good for you.
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I bet you have spit a lot of things. Good for you.
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Always on your mind isn’t it?
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are you ok with what happened to these children? did they deserve this? bomb threats at the school, death threats to specific

This was posted by Jim and seem a better here it adds to the poor victims fake news the right is pushing

But the right conveniently forgets David Hogg the fake actor the kids were plants the whole shooting was afake he didn’t even go to the school ... All the hate and attacking were publicly displayed by conservative in radio hosts attacking him daily Sarah Sanders but now the children of Covington poor victim was Christians were attacked brutally by the fake media

Conservatives have the shortest memories when it comes to history and what they say or do

But the right conveniently forgets David Hogg the fake actor the kids were plants the whole shooting was a real no one one after that kid right
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This X10
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This X10
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so you are saying it's ok to attack these kids because Hogg?

so you are saying it's ok to attack these kids because Hogg?

I'm guessing what both of them are saying is neither side is any better than the other.

Nobody looked good in the whole story.

If I was the kid, my parents would prob. paddle my behind for thinking I could stand in front of an adult like that. But I guess entitled kids now a days......

My Jesuit all boys high school would not have allowed MAGA hats either and would have moved us students away.

I'm guessing what both of them are saying is neither side is any better than the other.

Nobody looked good in the whole story.

If I was the kid, my parents would prob. paddle my behind for thinking I could stand in front of an adult like that. But I guess entitled kids now a days......

My Jesuit all boys high school would not have allowed MAGA hats either and would have moved us students away.

I thought whataboutisms were banned here :huh:


you would get paddled for standing in front of an adult?...that's pretty sad

if that was my kid I'd tell the old guy(adult) to get the hell out of his face

so you are saying it's ok to attack these kids because Hogg?

Funny clearly pointing out that they were not just standing still, they were actively participating is considered attacking

But what the right did to him (hogg) are not even comparable ... but keep trying

Funny clearly pointing out that they were not just standing still, they were actively participating is considered attacking

But what the right did to him (hogg) are not even comparable ... but keep trying

I'll take that as a yes

I'm guessing what both of them are saying is neither side is any better than the other.


That would be refreshing if they would actually say that.

The right lies to attack and the right lies to defend it's what they do lying is in their DNA

Currently they are after the guy and the drum and his veteran status ,,, attacking him now AS IF IT'S RELEVANT to what the video shows seeing he was last to show up?

there is a beginning a middle and end to the video ..



but conserves have decided to do what they blame the fake news of doing ... defending Christians with the section of the video that supports their argument ignoring the rest

See Paul, they can't do it

Hence,the term snowflake.
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That would be refreshing if they would actually say that.

I wish I could actually say it my self but the 2 incidents are not equal

In the parkland case they were publicly attacked by many consertives pundits talk show host and the likes as being actors not even going to the school the whole 9 yards and is still happening but you get this Huckabee Sanders on Covington Media Coverage: "I've Never Seen People So Happy To Destroy A Kid's Life" aka short memories

In this case the 1st story was presented incorrectly and was followed up and corrected by all sources no one suggested they were plants or paid actors or they were there to start a problem

Huckabee Sanders on Covington Media Coverage: "I've Never Seen People So Happy To Destroy A Kid's Life"

Some have suggested they started it but have walked that back but I haven't seen these attempt to destroy a kids life .. if he goes and hangs out with Trump as a political pawn ,,, then he will truly become a victim used as a Martyr forTrump and his Base

I guess i missed the part on my ballot where I voted for Pundits. Is Sarah Hauckabee Sanders wrong?

I wish I could actually say it my self but the 2 incidents are not equal



no one said they were and you injected Hogg...........

are you ok with what happened to these children? did they deserve this? bomb threats at the school, death threats to specific

This was posted by Jim and seem a better here it adds to the poor victims fake news the right is pushing

But the right conveniently forgets David Hogg the fake actor the kids were plants the whole shooting was afake he didn’t even go to the school ... All the hate and attacking were publicly displayed by conservative in radio hosts attacking him daily Sarah Sanders but now the children of Covington poor victim was Christians were attacked brutally by the fake media

Conservatives have the shortest memories when it comes to history and what they say or do

who here, saidnthe parkland shooting was fake?
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I'm guessing what both of them are saying is neither side is any better than the other.

Nobody looked good in the whole story.

If I was the kid, my parents would prob. paddle my behind for thinking I could stand in front of an adult like that. But I guess entitled kids now a days......

My Jesuit all boys high school would not have allowed MAGA hats either and would have moved us students away.

so because the students didn’t leave, theybare to blame. got it.

and i also went to a catholic high school, which nevernwouldnhave banned maga hats on a field trip. you’re saying when children wear that hat, they need to expect to be confronted? unreal.
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Funny clearly pointing out that they were not just standing still, they were actively participating is considered attacking

But what the right did to him (hogg) are not even comparable ... but keep trying

what did the kid at the center of this, Sandmann, do exactly?
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The right lies to attack and the right lies to defend it's what they do lying is in their DNA

Currently they are after the guy and the drum and his veteran status ,,, attacking him now AS IF IT'S RELEVANT to what the video shows seeing he was last to show up?

there is a beginning a middle and end to the video ..



but conserves have decided to do what they blame the fake news of doing ... defending Christians with the section of the video that supports their argument ignoring the rest
phillips got in the face of a 16 year old who was doing nothing, and told
one lie after another about what happened. then he tried to break into a catholic church during mass, to protest.
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who here, saidnthe parkland shooting was fake?
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Big picture Jim. .. theres is a lot said outside our little fourm that apply to both stories that's all .....

Big picture Jim. .. theres is a lot said outside our little fourm that apply to both stories that's all .....

ok. who anywhere, said it was fake? anyone who
matters? in this case, you have media pundits and celebrities calling those kids the worst names in the world. famous people with a real audience. you’re comparing that to some
nut denyingbthe shooting happened?


i’ll ask again, from the video, what did Sandmann donthat would
make any sane person concludemhe caused this?
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phillips got in the face of a 16 year old who was doing nothing, and told
one lie after another about what happened. then he tried to break into a catholic church during mass, to protest.
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Mr. Phillips clarified that it was he who had approached the crowd and that he had intervened because racial tensions — primarily between the white students and the black men — were “coming to a boiling point.”

Not sure why you are conecting how others reported the event and how he reported the event as a lie ?.

You can't break into a church but not sure how this is has anything to do with the topic other than to foreward the Christianity under attack rmantra

Ps Christians don't like catholics

Mr. Phillips clarified that it was he who had approached the crowd and that he had intervened because racial tensions — primarily between the white students and the black men — were “coming to a boiling point.”

Not sure why you are conecting how others reported the event and how he reported the event as a lie ?.

You can't break into a church but not sure how this is has anything to do with the topic other than to foreward the Christianity under attack rmantra

Ps Christians don't like catholics

phillips first said that the kids surrounded him and blocked his path. we know that’s bullsh*t.

phillips also said the kids were beasts and that the black hebrews were their prey. also bullsh*t.

so he didn’t clarify anyrhing until all his lies were exposed, so his clarification was phony and self serving.

and yes, you can break into a church. he tried to enter during mass to disrupt and protest, and he was stopped by security.

christianity is under attack, which is why a 16 year old kid who did nothing, is getting death threats and his school was shut down because of security concerns.


you can’t acknowlesge anything that doesn’t support the narrative.

i’ll ask you again, what should that kid have done? phillips was directly in front of him, so he couldn’t go forward. his classmates were behind him, so he couldn’t go backwards. what was he supposed to do, in order to not get death threats? he was trapped, so he stood there smiling and let this weirdo howl in his face until he got tired.

you people are unreal. we have entered a new phase of derangement. children who do nothing, get death threats because he made someone in your side look stupid.
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Ps Christians don't like catholics



you know that Catholics are Christians...right?

you know that Catholics are Christians...right?

how do you talk with someone who is capable of saying such nonsense?

wdmso, catholics are christians. catholicism is a form of christianity.
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you know that Catholics are Christians...right?

And sunni and shia are muslim and they dont like each other

glad your as uninformed as ever

how do you talk with someone who is capable of saying such nonsense?

wdmso, catholics are christians. catholicism is a form of christianity.
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like i told scott I am glad your as uninformed as usual

seeing some here love you tube

Roman Catholics are Not Christians

ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnhu15L9f4w


or Why We Don’t Consider Catholics to Be Christians (in as polite and simple terms possible)

https://pulpitandpen.org/2016/02/18/why-we-dont-consider-catholics-to-be-christians-in-as-polite-and-simple-terms-possible/



I wish i made this stuff up but I have not ... Not all people share these views but let's be clear but many do...

And sunni and shia are muslim and they dont like each other

glad your as uninformed as ever

If you had said protestants and catholics don't like each other then this comparison would work.

Catholics are Christians

seeing some here love you tube

Roman Catholics are Not Christians

ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnhu15L9f4w


or Why We Don’t Consider Catholics to Be Christians (in as polite and simple terms possible)

https://pulpitandpen.org/2016/02/18/why-we-dont-consider-catholics-to-be-christians-in-as-polite-and-simple-terms-possible/



I wish i made this stuff up but I have not ... Not all people share these views but let's be clear but many do...

i can find a website that says the earth is flat, doesn’t make it so.

catholics are indeed christians.
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If you had said protestants and catholics don't like each other then this comparison would work.

Catholics are Christians

he just ate the dice off the monopoly table

seeing some here love you tube

Roman Catholics are Not Christians

ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnhu15L9f4w


or Why We Don’t Consider Catholics to Be Christians (in as polite and simple terms possible)

https://pulpitandpen.org/2016/02/18/why-we-dont-consider-catholics-to-be-christians-in-as-polite-and-simple-terms-possible/

Open wide and say aaaah.

I wish i made this stuff up but I have not ... Not all people share these views but let's be clear but many do...
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Just saying, nobody will ever win this argument.
from the Bulwark aka The Weekly Standard reincarnated

The scissor is a statement, an idea or a scenario that’s somehow perfectly calibrated to tear people apart — not just by generating disagreement, but by generating total incredulity that somebody could possibly disagree with your interpretation of the controversy, followed by escalating fury and paranoia and polarization, until the debate seems like a completely existential, win-or-perish fight.
It doesn’t activate until you start discussing it with somebody. At first you just think they’re an imbecile. Then they call you an imbecile, and you want to defend yourself. Crescit eundo. You notice all the little ways they’re lying to you and themselves and their audience every time they open their mouth to defend their imbecilic opinion. Then you notice how all the lies are connected, that in order to keep getting the little things like the Scissor statement wrong, they have to drag in everything else.

The scissor is a statement.



that's all you had to say....

christianity is under attack, which is why a 16 year old kid who did nothing, is getting death threats and his school was shut down because of security concerns.
Under attack by a 64 year old native american who likes to pray?

i’ll ask you again, what should that kid have done? phillips was directly in front of him, so he couldn’t go forward. his classmates were behind him, so he couldn’t go backwards. what was he supposed to do, in order to not get death threats? he was trapped, so he stood there smiling and let this weirdo howl in his face until he got tired.
Have you noticed the disrespectful language you use to describe the man, weirdo, howl, hyena. Why don't you just come out and say it?

The kid was laughing and loose and decided to stiffen up and smugly stare Phillips down. That's a confrontational position. Perhaps he was just trying to impress his friends which high school kids often do. Regardless it was his decision.

Under attack by a 64 year old native american who likes to pray?


Have you noticed the disrespectful language you use to describe the man, weirdo, howl, hyena. Why don't you just come out and say it?

The kid was laughing and loose and decided to stiffen up and smugly stare Phillips down. That's a confrontational position. Perhaps he was just trying to impress his friends which high school kids often do. Regardless it was his decision.

spence...you need mental help

Under attack by a 64 year old native american who likes to pray?


Have you noticed the disrespectful language you use to describe the man, weirdo, howl, hyena. Why don't you just come out and say it?

The kid was laughing and loose and decided to stiffen up and smugly stare Phillips down. That's a confrontational position. Perhaps he was just trying to impress his friends which high school kids often do. Regardless it was his decision.

fine, i’ll come out and say it.

Phillips is an azzhole, a bully, a pathological liar, and an anti catholic bigot. is that succinct enough? his ethnicity has nothing to do with it, his actions have everything to do with it.

he somehow came to the ridiculous conclusion that the kids were harassing the black hebrews ( i suppose liberals
now claim the jews were harassing germans in the 1930s), and then he got in the face of a 16 year old
kid, then lied through his teeth about it, which resulted in the kid getting death threats.

all of that is irrefutable, completely irrefutable. that makes him a hero to you. makes him an azzhole
to me. we look out for the kids, we don’t throw them under the bus in order to dodge our own guilt.
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Under attack by a 64 year old native american who likes to pray?


Have you noticed the disrespectful language you use to describe the man, weirdo, howl, hyena. Why don't you just come out and say it?

The kid was laughing and loose and decided to stiffen up and smugly stare Phillips down. That's a confrontational position. Perhaps he was just trying to impress his friends which high school kids often do. Regardless it was his decision.

phillips
likes to pray, but wanted to deny that same comfort to the catholics he attempted to disrupt. so he gets to pray whenever and wherever he wants, but catholics can only do so if he approves? sounds fair.

you’re a laughingstock. you’re criticizing him for smiling. right out of 1984, literally. look how your side handles this. he’s getting death threats.
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this is apparently how things work in spenceworld...if you are standing over here...and spence is way over there "praying"....and spence wanders over to where you are standing and continues "praying" very loudly inches from your face...you are the one being confrontational..it was your choice to stand there not his choice to wander over there and bother you...and if you look at him oddly because you aren't used to having people just walk up to you and "pray" loudly inches from your face...you are being disrespectful...in spenceworld

I have to chuckle when folks wonder where the chaperones could be. These are fine young men who showed a lot of composure given the circumstances. The restraint shown should be used as an example of good character,which is typical of a catholic school.
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I have to chuckle when folks wonder where the chaperones could be. These are fine young men who showed a lot of composure given the circumstances. The restraint shown should be used as an example of good character,which is typical of a catholic school.
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^ this.

They showed maturity and poise. and got crucified.
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^ this.

They showed maturity and poise. and got crucified.
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I don’t think you drink so what have you been huffing? Watch the video, that’s not maturity and poise. It’s at best stupid teenage behavior and at worse MAGA influenced stupidity.

Tomorrow I’m going to watch the video with my son and instruct him, in that situation, don’t do that.
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I don’t think you drink so what have you been huffing? Watch the video, that’s not maturity and poise. It’s at best stupid teenage behavior and at worse MAGA influenced stupidity.

Tomorrow I’m going to watch the video with my son and instruct him, in that situation, don’t do that.
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Jeff,make sure you tell him to scream in somebody’s face so he can get slapped and learn not to be a douchebag. A lesson you should take note of.
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MAGA influenced stupidity.


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I think you've discovered your ailment :laugha:...let me guess...symptoms began when you spotted a red hat with four words

I don’t think you drink so what have you been huffing? Watch the video, that’s not maturity and poise. It’s at best stupid teenage behavior and at worse MAGA influenced stupidity.

Tomorrow I’m going to watch the video with my son and instruct him, in that situation, don’t do that.
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what would you have advised Sandmann to do? he’s 16 years old, not bothering anybody, andnthis ild weirdo gets in his face. he can’t go forward because the guy is right in his face. he can’t go backwards because his classmates are mobbed behind him.

you can read his
kind, guess his intentions, because he smiled. amazing.


the old jerk
lies again to nbc yesterday, saying there were videos which showed the kids chanting build the wall. no such videos have yet surfaced, and nbc let’s him say that about children for f*cks sake, and they don’t question it.
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