About time ... now well see who were the winners and who were the losers

the deal sounds like the original deal

but had to throw this in ....

If we don't get a fair deal from Congress the government will either shut down on February 15 again.

"Or I will use the powers afforded to me under the laws and the constitution of the United States to address this emergency."

Losers are the American people especially government workers, the GOP and the President. It's amazing the master negotiator ended up getting nothing but plummeting poll numbers.

Trump either has to go with a bi-partisan plan or declare an emergency which he'll likely lose in court. Any way you slice it this isn't what winning looks like.

Losers are the American people especially government workers, the GOP and the President. It's amazing the master negotiator ended up getting nothing but plummeting poll numbers.

Trump either has to go with a bi-partisan plan or declare an emergency which he'll likely lose in court. Any way you slice it this isn't what winning looks like.

He's gonna get pummeled on this issue, without question.

Losers are the American people especially government workers, the GOP and the President. It's amazing the master negotiator ended up getting nothing but plummeting poll numbers.

Trump either has to go with a bi-partisan plan or declare an emergency which he'll likely lose in court. Any way you slice it this isn't what winning looks like.

Yep, just like last time "furloughed" for 18 days... can't go to work... but wait... once they approved the damn budget.. we got paid for those furlough days, just as if we were working... ended up actually being nearly 3 paid weeks off.

So ya you're right Trump is Satan and Hitler rolled into one....

Yep, just like last time "furloughed" for 18 days... can't go to work... but wait... once they approved the damn budget.. we got paid for those furlough days, just as if we were working... ended up actually being nearly 3 paid weeks off.

So ya you're right Trump is Satan and Hitler rolled into one....

was that the shutdown during obama’s presidency? federal workers missed a paycheck? there sure wasn’t anywhere near this
much concern.
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Yep, just like last time "furloughed" for 18 days... can't go to work... but wait... once they approved the damn budget.. we got paid for those furlough days, just as if we were working... ended up actually being nearly 3 paid weeks off.

So ya you're right Trump is Satan and Hitler rolled into one....
Perhaps if you were a janitor or TSA employee you’d think differently. I remember living paycheck to paycheck at one time.
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Perhaps if you were a janitor or TSA employee you’d think differently. I remember living paycheck to paycheck at one time.
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but where was the media uproar last time? i agree shutdowns hurt innocent people, i’m just not sure that people
furloughed by trump are more victimized than people
furloughed under obama, but the media coverage, like in every other issue, reflects an agenda.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well said!

but where was the media uproar last time? i agree shutdowns hurt innocent people, i’m just not sure that people
furloughed by trump are more victimized than people
furloughed under obama, but the media coverage, like in every other issue, reflects an agenda.
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There was one but the climate is different now. Trump is going to hype everything and the entire system is going to respond in kind.
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There was one but the climate is different now. Trump is going to hype everything and the entire system is going to respond in kind.
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“the climate is different now”.

oh, i agree. in this climate an adult can get in the face of a child, and claim to be the victim, and the child gets death threats for standing still in the face of the jerk adult, and you can’t say that anything wrong has happened.

the climate has been different since bush. bush was hitler. McCain was a senile old racist. Romney objectifies women by keeping their resumes in a binder.
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Seems once again people are confused why we had this shut down and obama shut down ill give them a hint it was driven by republicans

oh, i agree. in this climate an adult can get in the face of a child, and claim to be the victim, and the child gets death threats for standing still in the face of the jerk adult, and you can’t say that anything wrong has happened.
I did say many things wrong happened. The chapparones were AWOL and the kids escalated the situation. Black Isrealites helped by insulting everyone.

Thank god for those jerks with the drums, they may have prevented a riot.

the climate has been different since bush. bush was hitler. McCain was a senile old racist. Romney objectifies women by keeping their resumes in a binder.
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Climate has been different since Clinton. Blame Newt, Tom Delay etc...

How many GOP House Speakers or Majority Leaders have had legal
Issues since then?
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Everything bad that has ever happened,Wayne can link to the Republican Party. He is what is known as a real snowflake. I can tell he is not fronting.
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I did say many things wrong happened. The chapparones were AWOL and the kids escalated the situation. Black Isrealites helped by insulting everyone.

Thank god for those jerks with the drums, they may have prevented a riot.

That may be true Jeff, certainly you have a valid opinion there. I hope you notice the brave,praying Indian chose the path of least resistance here. Certainly a safer path,where he attempted to intimidate/incite a high school field trip. It may just be the two groups were in cahoots in another attempt to discredit the oppressed.

Climate has been different since Clinton. Blame Newt, Tom Delay etc...

How many GOP House Speakers or Majority Leaders have had legal
Issues since then?
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Everything bad that has ever happened,Wayne can link to the Republican Party. He is what is known as a real snowflake. I can tell he is not fronting.
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Again you can't accept the facts how typical

Seems once again people are confused why we had this shut down and obama shut down ill give them a hint it was driven by republicans

whatever. but obama was potus, and there was nowhere near the hysteria. why? there is one possible answer, Trump.
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spence you say phillips
de escalated things. by lying about every detail? calling the kids beasts, calling the black men their pray, saying the kid got in his path, saying the kids were chanting build
the wall?

All bullsh*t, all irrefutable bullsh*t, all designed to demonize children. Children. and they got death threats, because people
like you got chubbies at the thought of white catholics in maga hats picking on an innocent, victimized native american elder.

yeah, you go on thinking that Phillips helped the children.
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spence you say phillips
de escalated things. by lying about every detail? calling the kids beasts, calling the black men their pray, saying the kid got in his path, saying the kids were chanting build
the wall?

All bullsh*t, all irrefutable bullsh*t, all designed to demonize children. Children. and they got death threats, because people
like you got chubbies at the thought of white catholics in maga hats picking on an innocent, victimized native american elder.

yeah, you go on thinking that Phillips helped the children.
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I can call your local crisis center. You ok?
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Can we just start the damn civil war already? This site is a perfect example of how we will never agree on anything.

Can we just start the damn civil war already? This site is a perfect example of how we will never agree on anything.

NO WE CANT
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Can we just start the damn civil war already?

it's coming...thankfully, while the left has been collecting safe spaces and emotional support pets...the right has been collecting guns and stockpiling ammo...

may the odds be ever in your favor...:kewl:

Thank god for those jerks with the drums, they may have prevented a riot.

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Spence there is a video shot and narrated by one of the black Israelites that shows the crowd of kids at a distance...the guy narrating and the other black Israelites ( the guys that CNN described as " four young African Americans who were there teaching about the bible and oppression") screaming obscenities and threatening the group(which I guess you'd describe as "praying")....the group moves AWAY from the black Israelites and keeps going in fact the black Israelites are taunting them as they move off yelling "that's right run away"...

your narrative is a joke...

Spence there is a video shot and narrated by one of the black Israelites that shows the crowd of kids at a distance...the guy narrating and the other black Israelites ( the guys that CNN described as " four young African Americans who were there teaching about the bible and oppression") screaming obscenities and threatening the group(which I guess you'd describe as "praying")....the group moves AWAY from the black Israelites and keeps going in fact the black Israelites are taunting them as they move off yelling "that's right run away"...

your narrative is a joke...

and then there’s Phillips, also saying the white kids were picking on the poor black israelites, calling the kids beasts, and the blacks their prey. and spence is still
saying the kids contributed to this, and that Phillips played a favorable role.

there’s no talking to these people.
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whatever. but obama was potus, and there was nowhere near the hysteria. why? there is one possible answer, Trump.
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obama was potus what's your point ? you cant sign a bill if one is never sent

Turtle boy wouldn't send a bill unless Trump liked it 1st since when is that how this works...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyeJ55o3El0

obama was potus what's your point ? you cant sign a bill if one is never sent

Turtle boy wouldn't send a bill unless Trump liked it 1st since when is that how this works...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyeJ55o3El0
my point was that when federal workers were furloughed under obama, the media didn’t make the stink they’re making today. why? why is it so much worse to get furloughed by trump than by obama?
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there’s no talking to these people.

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I'd like to get a red "MAKE ANTARCTICA GREAT AGAIN" hat and wear it around just for fun ......but I'd have to worry about nuts like Spence becoming irrationally triggered and vandalizing my car :laughs:

my point was that when federal workers were furloughed under obama, the media didn’t make the stink they’re making today. why? why is it so much worse to get furloughed by trump than by obama?
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what part of the Reason Why( A bs Lie and he lost the house )is the reason we had the shut down ... Trump caused the stink it wasn't created by the media ... and now he is trying to look like the hero to funny

Jim the But but but obama Mantra only works on the uninformed and Trump faith full


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I wish people would read or listen to my words on the Border Wall. This was in no way a concession. It was taking care of millions of people who were getting badly hurt by the Shutdown with the understanding that in 21 days, if no deal is done, it’s off to the races!

my point was that when federal workers were furloughed under obama, the media didn’t make the stink they’re making today. why? why is it so much worse to get furloughed by trump than by obama?
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53% of Americans blamed Republicans for the Obama shutdown
Republicans are getting better at that, this time with McConnell hiding they got Trump to take the blame
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I'd like to get a red "MAKE ANTARCTICA GREAT AGAIN" hat and wear it around just for fun ......but I'd have to worry about nuts like Spence becoming irrationally triggered and vandalizing my car :laughs:

The hat itself is what triggers racism. The left simply become sideways when they see the hat.🤯
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The hat itself is what triggers racism. The left simply become sideways when they see the hat.🤯
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Kind of like a KKK hood.
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Kind of like a KKK hood.
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Not quite that bad but it does shout out you buy the Trump brand - hook line and sinker - with all the bigotry, offensiveness and immaturity that goes with it.
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Thank you for making my point
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Thank you for making my point
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It’s not the hat it’s the brand.
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Kind of like a KKK hood.
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"MAKE ANTARCTICA GREAT AGAIN"

you made his point

Cost of shut down 6 billion to US economy, not to mention the cost to the government workers, in a couple weeks we can keep on winning as the next round of the most dysfunctional government continues with probably an emergency declaration. Shouldn’t an emergency be more pressing than waiting a month, must be a glaring “humanitarian” emergency.
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"MAKE ANTARCTICA GREAT AGAIN"

you made his point

Make America educated again.
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Make America educated again.
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hopefully educated and rational enough to not be triggered to violence, vandalism and venom over the sight of a red hat with words on it...

hopefully educated and rational enough to not be triggered to violence, vandalism and venom over the sight of a red hat with words on it...

Never thought one stupid Indian with a drum could get under someone’s skin like it has to you, find a different argument; one idiot caught on a cell phone means nothing. Pretty sure that is not the view everyone on the left sees things, you on the far right have the same narrow viewpoint, doesn’t mean it’s a universal view.

Give it a rest, find some new material.
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Never thought one stupid Indian with a drum

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that's the most racist and bigoted thing written here in quite a while :hs:

and that was a general statement not directed at any specific incident...guess you were triggered and didn't recognize that..

find a different argument;

Give it a rest, find some new material.

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crazy triggered leftists sure get pushy....:hihi:

Never thought one stupid Indian with a drum could get under someone’s skin like it has to you, find a different argument; one idiot caught on a cell phone means nothing. Pretty sure that is not the view everyone on the left sees things, you on the far right have the same narrow viewpoint, doesn’t mean it’s a universal view.

Give it a rest, find some new material.
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innocent children got death threats. you just don’t get it, all you see is trump hatred.

it wasn’t his drum, it was the obvious lies he told about the kids, and the willingness of
liberals everywhere to assume he was right and to
crucify these kids for
no reason, other than liberalism.
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that's the most racist and bigoted thing written here in quite a while :hs:

and that was a general statement not directed at any specific incident...guess you were triggered and didn't recognize that..

Using your own thoughts against you, must have struck a nerve
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innocent children got death threats. you just don’t get it, all you see is trump hatred.

it wasn’t his drum, it was the obvious lies he told about the kids, and the willingness of
liberals everywhere to assume he was right and to
crucify these kids for
no reason, other than liberalism.
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Really?? Those kids just sat there quietly ? You need to watch that video again. “Go back to Europe” is in my memory.
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Using your own thoughts against you, must have struck a nerve
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calm down and try to make sense when you write things :bl:

Really?? Those kids just sat there quietly ?
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Eben....the kid that was being prayed(sp) upon would have acted the same way with that same look on his face if it was a stripper dancing around him....would he have been "confrontational" and "disrespectful" if it was a stripper?

Really?? Those kids just sat there quietly ? You need to watch that video again. “Go back to Europe” is in my memory.
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the kid at the center of this, sandman, stood there motionless and quietly.
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the good news for the leftists and the media that is eager to do their bidding is that the guy with the drum will continue to bother people...probably out there again this weekend...the black Israelites will continue to teach about the bible and oppression and launch slurs at those that they identify as not accepting of their message...probably out there again this weekend...the kids are not out there this weekend, I suspect that school will end field trips to pro-life rallies and I suspect other schools around the country will decide not to send their students to the nation's capital and risk them being harassed by leftists activists and assaulted by the media...

so it's a win/win for the bully left and media...:btu:

the good news for the leftists and the media that is eager to do their bidding is that the guy with the drum will continue to bother people...probably out there again this weekend...the black Israelites will continue to teach about the bible and oppression and launch slurs at those that they identify as not accepting of their message...probably out there again this weekend...the kids are not out there this weekend, I suspect that school will end field trips to pro-life rallies and I suspect other schools around the country will decide not to send their students to the nation's capital and risk them being harassed by leftists activists and assaulted by the media...

so it's a win/win for the bully left and media...:btu:

that’s today’s democrat party at the national level. intolerance, disguised as progressivism.
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The kids were shouted down and oppressed by the other groups. Victims,simply for wearing a hat that left wing haters view as racist.
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The kids were shouted down and oppressed by the other groups. Victims,simply for wearing a hat that left wing haters view as racist.
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the kids families retained the top libel/slander attorney in the business. i hope they get filthy rich, which will give the commies here another reason to hate them.
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I think an apology is in order.
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Really?? Those kids just sat there quietly ? You need to watch that video again. “Go back to Europe” is in my memory.
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My goodness! I didn’t realize these little Trumplicans actually had the gall to say Go back to Europe!!!!! They should be put in town square and have stones tossed at them. Devious little patriots that wear hats proclaiming loyalty to their country,get them out and let in some Mexicans.
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i, all you see is trump hatred.

it wasn’t his drum, it was the
no reason, other than liberalism.
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And the parkland kids innocent children got death threats. for no other reason then the Conservatism lashing out hate against them for suggesting Gun control.. by the darlings of the conservative.. media I guess that never happened

Seem you can't accept that when the 1st story changed... the new information lead to a new story to reflect the changed (aka Responsible journalism) Funny the Right did the same thing with bengiza they were unable to change with the information it didn't help their cause

like here they are sticking to the 1st report and ignoring everything after that ? why is that

"obvious lies he told about the kids, and the willingness of
liberals everywhere to assume he was right and to
crucify these kids for"" its all BS... you have made up most of it up I have seen no attempt from the media to crucify theses kids

comments on Twitter would be another story no doubt but I dont let response from anonymous twitter trolls to apply any legitimacy for or against :btu:

And the parkland kids innocent children got death threats. for no other reason then the Conservatism lashing out hate against them for suggesting Gun control.. by the darlings of the conservative.. media I guess that never happened

Seem you can't accept that when the 1st story changed... the new information lead to a new story to reflect the changed (aka Responsible journalism)

"obvious lies he told about the kids, and the willingness of
liberals everywhere to assume he was right and to
crucify these kids for"" its all BS... you have made up most of it up I have seen no attempt from the media to crucify theses kids

comments on Twitter would be another story no doubt but I dont let response from anonymous twitter trolls to apply any legitimacy for or against :btu:

you’re sayingnthe parkland survivors are the equivalent of these kids? you’re talking about the ones who chose to become activists? anyone in the right who threatened them, deserves to
rot
in prison. that’s the difference between us, i can call out jerks on my side, you can’t, you just can’t. you immediately deflect to republicans behaving badly.
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And the parkland kids innocent children got death threats. for no other reason then the Conservatism lashing out hate against them for suggesting Gun control.. by the darlings of the conservative.. media I guess that never happened

Seem you can't accept that when the 1st story changed... the new information lead to a new story to reflect the changed (aka Responsible journalism) Funny the Right did the same thing with bengiza they were unable to change with the information it didn't help their cause

like here they are sticking to the 1st report and ignoring everything after that ? why is that

"obvious lies he told about the kids, and the willingness of
liberals everywhere to assume he was right and to
crucify these kids for"" its all BS... you have made up most of it up I have seen no attempt from the media to crucify theses kids

comments on Twitter would be another story no doubt but I dont let response from anonymous twitter trolls to apply any legitimacy for or against :btu:

you’ve seen nothing in the
media? savannah guthrieninterviewed Sandman and told
him that standingbthe was aggressive. when she interviewed phillips she didn’t criticize
anything he did, and let phillips spread the lie, and we know it was a lie, that the kids were chanting build the wall. after listening to whatbthe black israelites were screaming at them, and the media saying the kids were harassing them, i’m surprised they didn’t all go out and join the Klan. that’s called sarcasm.
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The Republican president said he doubts he would lower the sum he is prepared to accept for a US-Mexico border wall.

Here we go agin drawing lines in the sand
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The Republican president said he doubts he would lower the sum he is prepared to accept for a US-Mexico border wall.

Here we go agin drawing lines in the sand
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but when the house democrats submitted a budget that had $1 for a wall, what was that? reasonable
negotiations?
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Sure looks like somebody else likes to draw lines too..

"Are you willing to come up and give him some of this money for the wall?" NBC's Savannah Guthrie asked Pelosi in an interview slated to air in full Thursday.
"No, no. Nothing for the wall," Pelosi replied. "We're talking about border security."
"We can go through this all back and forth -- no," Pelosi added. "How many more times can we say no? Nothing for the wall."

Trumps original budget before it grew by 350%

"Critical investments include $1.6 billion for construction of the border wall and $782 million to hire and
support 2,750 additional law enforcement officers and agents at U.S. Customs and Border Protection
(CBP) and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)."

From Page 61 of this document
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/budget-fy2019.pdf

If I were a government worker and could make a jump to the private sector, I'd be sending out my resume. There will be no funding for the wall, so it's either another shutdown to further beat down the 800,000+ extended families and the economy takes a further hit, or it's the emergency declaration. The later is sure to be challenged in court, because the last time I checked in Webster Dictionary, it didn't describe something that took 2 years to figure out.

If I were a government worker and could make a jump to the private sector, I'd be sending out my resume. .

Me too. The government doesn't care about us, it serves its own interests. I wouldn't want those idiots, of both parties, within 100 miles of my compensation.