So Trump mentioned in his speech last night, that walls have proven very effective in San Diego, in El Paso, in Yuma.

So here is my question to Spence, Pete, WDMSO, Nebe, etc...why wouldn't Trump's proposed expanded wall, work as well as walls have worked in the past? Why did all the prominent democrats support the wall in 2006 and 2013?

Please note, pointing out cases of people getting around walls, might show that walls aren't perfect, but it doesn't show that walls don't help.


A wall will not eliminate illegal crossings. But where walls have been built, they have reduced illegal crossings, significantly.

You're also not refuting my point by suggesting that we need other forms of security (more agents at ports of entry, drones, cameras), because Trump is asking for that, too. No one is saying the wall is all we need. We are saying that as a component of a broader security package, walls help.

Other than partisan resistance, I see no point or logic behind the resistance to the wall.

Illegal crossings on the southern border have gone down 76% since 2000
Must be those walls
If Trump stopped shouting WALL, he could get a bipartisan agreement that would do something about border security. But when you have the far right saying DACA can't be permanent what else can you give the Democrats to get what you want. A skilled negotiator could come up with a comprehensive immigration solution and likely nobody would get exactly what they wanted.
The solution is more than WALL

Illegal crossings on the southern border have gone down 76% since 2000
Must be those walls
If Trump stopped shouting WALL, he could get a bipartisan agreement that would do something about border security. But when you have the far right saying DACA can't be permanent what else can you give the Democrats to get what you want. A skilled negotiator could come up with a comprehensive immigration solution and likely nobody would get exactly what they wanted.
The solution is more than WALL

"The solution is more than WALL"

Name one person of influence, who says that the entire solution is a wall. Again, you can't go two seconds, without responding to something, that no one has ever said.

"Must be those walls"

Did walls work in San Diego, Yuma, and El Paso? Yes or no?

"A skilled negotiator could come up with a comprehensive immigration "

So when Pelosi refuses to budge, that's all Trump's fault. But you're not biased, no sir.

You dodged, and I mean you completely avoided, the points I made and the questions I asked. Instead, you pretended that conservatives are saying all we need is a wall.

This is what one does, when one has lost, but can't admit it.

WALLS WORK. I never said that walls always work, nor did I ever say that nothing else ever works. I said that walls help. You stated absolutely nothing to contradict that.

You hate Trump so much, you can't admit that barriers work.

"The solution is more than WALL"

Name one person of influence, who says that the entire solution is a wall. Again, you can't go two seconds, without responding to something, that no one has ever said.


It is questionable if he is a person of influence.
But he does keep shouting WALL

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Lets just call them WALLS from now on and stop playing political games! A WALL is a WALL!

It is questionable if he is a person of influence.
But he does keep shouting WALL

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Lets just call them WALLS from now on and stop playing political games! A WALL is a WALL!

Trumps plan calls for more than a wall. You know this.

He said it last night,if you were paying attention PeteF. His plan,as noted,DOES include a wall. You seem to interpret this as meaning exclusively; a wall. Listen to ALL the words PeteF. and become enlightened. It shouldn’t be too hard to digest this information and come to a reasonable conclusion.
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Trumps plan calls for more than a wall. You know this.
Not sure he understands that

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The most important way to stop gangs, drugs, human trafficking and massive crime is at our Southern Border. We need Border Security, and as EVERYONE knows, you can’t have Border Security without a Wall. The Drones & Technology are just bells and whistles. Safety for America! [Twitter for iPhone]
Dec 23, 2018 09:17:54 AM
The only way to stop drugs, gangs, human trafficking, criminal elements and much else from coming into our Country is with a Wall or Barrier. Drones and all of the rest are wonderful and lots of fun, but it is only a good old fashioned Wall that works! [Twitter for iPhone]

It is questionable if he (Trump) is a person of influence.


Says the guy who starts 5 threads a day attacking the man. He has influenced you to go completely off the deep end...

He said it last night,if you were paying attention PeteF. His plan,as noted,DOES include a wall. You seem to interpret this as meaning exclusively; a wall. Listen to ALL the words PeteF. and become enlightened. It shouldn’t be too hard to digest this information and come to a reasonable conclusion.
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Having a plan is one step in our governmental process.
The president proposes a budget, Trumps last one included 1.6 billion for barriers.
Congress is not just a rubber stamp, so Step 2 is getting the legislative bodies to agree to something that accomplishes your goal. This typically requires negotiation and rarely is just based on a demand.
He may have done step one but now he needs to learn how to do step 2.
It's doubtful that he will negotiate, so far all he has done is offer retreads of previously rejected items as attempts at negotiation.
Now if the far sides of the political spectrum had less influence, including several fools in the WH, the members of Congress could come up with bipartisan solutions and something could happen but both sides seem to be stuck and Trump is not helping by going WALL.
It's not about what is needed for the country to him, he just needs to win period and that very likely will not work.
Pelosi and Coulter have him by the cojones and he has no clue how to get out of their grip, or deal with Congress.

Pete, did barriers work in San Diego, El Paso, and Yuma?

That's a yes or no question.

Pelosi and Coulter have him by the cojones and he has no clue how to get out of their grip, or deal with Congress.

Which explains why he never wins or gets anything done.

Which explains why he never wins or gets anything done.

And it will get worse unless he learns to negotiate.

His party controlled both houses for the first two years of his term and
according to GovTrack, Trump has signed 176 bills since his inauguration. That’s about on par with Barack Obama at this point in his presidency (174), and slightly behind George W. Bush (187). But both Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush far surpassed those numbers in the pieces of legislation signed in their first 100 days, 262 and 309 bills, respectively.

But what about those post office namings and “National Country Music Day” designations? NBC News counted each piece of legislation passed under Trump and the previous four presidents and removed those that simply named, commemorated, awarded or appointed an individual, group or cause.

Under that count, Trump is also about on par with his previous two successors. Of the 176 bills he has signed into law, 132 are classified as substantive, compared to 118 for Obama and 133 for George W. Bush. But George H.W. Bush and Clinton are far ahead of all three, clocking in at 170 and 177.

Having a plan is one step in our governmental process.
The president proposes a budget, Trumps last one included 1.6 billion for barriers.
Congress is not just a rubber stamp, so Step 2 is getting the legislative bodies to agree to something that accomplishes your goal. This typically requires negotiation and rarely is just based on a demand.
He may have done step one but now he needs to learn how to do step 2.
It's doubtful that he will negotiate, so far all he has done is offer retreads of previously rejected items as attempts at negotiation.
Now if the far sides of the political spectrum had less influence, including several fools in the WH, the members of Congress could come up with bipartisan solutions and something could happen but both sides seem to be stuck and Trump is not helping by going WALL.
It's not about what is needed for the country to him, he just needs to win period and that very likely will not work.
Pelosi and Coulter have him by the cojones and he has no clue how to get out of their grip, or deal with Congress.

PeteF. ,this is a clever response to nothing I said. Well played.
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And it will get worse unless he learns to negotiate.

His party controlled both houses for the first two years of his term and
according to GovTrack, Trump has signed 176 bills since his inauguration. That’s about on par with Barack Obama at this point in his presidency (174), and slightly behind George W. Bush (187). But both Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush far surpassed those numbers in the pieces of legislation signed in their first 100 days, 262 and 309 bills, respectively.

But what about those post office namings and “National Country Music Day” designations? NBC News counted each piece of legislation passed under Trump and the previous four presidents and removed those that simply named, commemorated, awarded or appointed an individual, group or cause.

Under that count, Trump is also about on par with his previous two successors. Of the 176 bills he has signed into law, 132 are classified as substantive, compared to 118 for Obama and 133 for George W. Bush. But George H.W. Bush and Clinton are far ahead of all three, clocking in at 170 and 177.

Oh, so what matters is how many bills there are, not what those bills actually do.

Low unemployment, high GDP, high stock market, ISIS on the run, more women working, more blacks working, crime reform bill.

But let's ignore all that, because they don't send the message you want to send.

Says the guy who starts 5 threads a day attacking the man. He has influenced you to go completely off the deep end...

One of the most honest and true comments to date!!!

Says the guy who starts 5 threads a day attacking the man. He has influenced you to go completely off the deep end...
Said the guy who's daily threads are how he and his hero are victimized by liberals.

Pete, did barriers work in San Diego, El Paso, and Yuma?

That's a yes or no question.

Asked and answered, just search thru previous threads and you can find your gratification. :stir:
You, like Trump, keep harping on the same subject, in the same way, insisting you are right and wondering why you don't get what you want.
Didn't work for my kids when they were throwing a tantrum either.

Asked and answered, just search thru previous threads and you can find your gratification. :stir:
You, like Trump, keep harping on the same subject, in the same way, insisting you are right and wondering why you don't get what you want.
Didn't work for my kids when they were throwing a tantrum either.
no you did not answer that question. please do so?

when your beliefs get annihilated by such a simple question, perhaps it’s time
for some new beliefs.

i keep harping in the same subject? isn’t past experience with walls , worth discussing, when talking about expanding the wall?

i don’t get what i want? which party currently holds
more elected offices?
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You guys crack me up, all these posts over a problem that really is minor when you consider Syria, Iran, Venezuela, nuclear arms agreements. They TRUMP the wall by a margin that makes this thread stupid imho. Trumps ability to mess with foreign policy to the point really exceptional people leave because they can’t in good conscience carry out orders by this POTUS. But hey keep beating up the pros and cons of the fing wall to dramatically slow the problem that has been slowing itself for a decade and is only a part of a much larger immigration policy issue.
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You guys crack me up, all these posts over a problem that really is minor when you consider Syria, Iran, Venezuela, nuclear arms agreements. They TRUMP the wall by a margin that makes this thread stupid imho. Trumps ability to mess with foreign policy to the point really exceptional people leave because they can’t in good conscience carry out orders by this POTUS. But hey keep beating up the pros and cons of the fing wall to dramatically slow the problem that has been slowing itself for a decade and is only a part of a much larger immigration policy issue.
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Is anyone saying ignore Syria or Iran? We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

There are at least 12 million people living here, and we don't know who they are. Is that minor?

no you did not answer that question. please do so?
I’ve answered it before but it’s fun to watch your head spin, yes peaches work, though a steel fence is better
when your beliefs get annihilated by such a simple question, perhaps it’s time
for some new beliefs.

i keep harping in the same subject? isn’t past experience with walls , worth discussing, when talking about expanding the wall?

i don’t get what i want? which party currently holds
more elected offices?
It doesn’t work like that, part of the plan is you need more seats to do whatever you want
So to do what you want you need to negotiate
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See above
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You guys crack me up, all these posts over a problem that really is minor when you consider Syria, Iran, Venezuela, nuclear arms agreements. They TRUMP the wall by a margin that makes this thread stupid imho. Trumps ability to mess with foreign policy to the point really exceptional people leave because they can’t in good conscience carry out orders by this POTUS. But hey keep beating up the pros and cons of the fing wall to dramatically slow the problem that has been slowing itself for a decade and is only a part of a much larger immigration policy issue.
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You’re right but some love that WALL
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There are at least 12 million people living here, and we don't know who they are. Is that minor?


and the majority are visa overstayers :kewl: but your hung up on the wall


OMG the horror I dont know who lives 5 houses down from me let me call ICE

Fear is a horrible thing...

and the majority are visa overstayers :kewl: but your hung up on the wall


OMG the horror I dont know who lives 5 houses down from me let me call ICE

Fear is a horrible thing...

i’m relying on what the border agents and obama’s head of
border patrol are saying. how could a politician possibly know more than a true subject matter expert?

i keep asking you if walls workedmin san diego, yuma, and el paso, and you keep dodging.

i can logically and reasonably explain my position. i support walls because (1) history has shown they add value, and (2) the actual experts are saying we need to expand it.

all you can do to defend your position, is lib insults. you can’t answer a yes/no question.
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i’m relying on what the border agents and head of
border patrol are saying. how could a politician possibly know more than a true subject matter expert?
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Yep, they should have the most weight in determining if a wall is effective. If they say it's needed and effective we should be funding it.

i keep asking you if walls workedmin san diego, yuma, and el paso, and you keep dodging.

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This has been asked a dozen times by you and answered. Is the terrain the same in san diego or el paso as it is in the middle of the desert?

And it makes no sense to go only by the word of a border guard who is responsible for a small slice of the border versus a rep. who knows info. about many many times the length of what a border guard knows. All the reps. say there is no need for a fence from coast to coast.

This has been asked a dozen times by you and answered. Is the terrain the same in san diego or el paso as it is in the middle of the desert?

And it makes no sense to go only by the word of a border guard who is responsible for a small slice of the border versus a rep. who knows info. about many many times the length of what a border guard knows. All the reps. say there is no need for a fence from coast to coast.

"This has been asked a dozen times by you and answered."

I don't see your answer, so instead of saying "this has been answered", can you just answer it again?

"Is the terrain the same in san diego or el paso as it is in the middle of the desert? "

I don't know. Is the terrain identical in San Diego, and Yuma, and El Paso? Is the terrain that much different where Trump wants to expand them? If the terrain is different, why did all the dems still support expanding the wall in 2006 and 2013?

Why does the Israeli southern wall, on the desert, help stop illegal immigration?

"And it makes no sense to go only by the word of a border guard "

How about Obama's head of the Border Patrol? He was responsible for the whole border, he was appointed by Obama and fired by Trump, so he has no reason to lie to make Trump look good. Does he know anything?

All the reps. say there is no need for a fence from coast to coast.

Then I have good news for you. Trump also isn't asking for a wall from coast to coast, not even close. Just where he thinks it makes sense.

"This has been asked a dozen times by you and answered."

I don't see your answer, so instead of saying "this has been answered", can you just answer it again?So are prob. the most prolific poster here and either miss responses or choose to ignore them but complain that people aren't responding to your question and you wonder why they don't respond to each and every question.

"Is the terrain the same in san diego or el paso as it is in the middle of the desert? "

I don't know. Is the terrain identical in San Diego, and Yuma, and El Paso? Is the terrain that much different where Trump wants to expand them? If the terrain is different, why did all the dems still support expanding the wall in 2006 and 2013?

Why does the Israeli southern wall, on the desert, help stop illegal immigration?



BC Isreal is different and there are spots where you can walk out of your house go 50 yards and cross the border - same as SD or EP. That isn't the case in middle of the desert or on the Rio Grande.

By your logic since there are flood control walls on the naugatuck river in Ansonia and Derby we need to put another 70 miles of flood control walls on the remainder of the river since they have also flooded in the past.

BC Isreal is different and there are spots where you can walk out of your house go 50 yards and cross the border - same as SD or EP. That isn't the case in middle of the desert or on the Rio Grande.

By your logic since there are flood control walls on the naugatuck river in Ansonia and Derby we need to put another 70 miles of flood control walls on the remainder of the river since they have also flooded in the past.

So I'll ask you then, did walls work in San Diego, Yuma, and El Paso?

If the remaining terrain is so un-fit for expanded walls, why did dems approve it, in 2006 and in 2013?

well just paint the wall black they will get to Hot to Climb ..

that's the Logic with this POTUS and his Base

And jim in yuma and arizona yes the Wall has reduced crossing so have thousands other things in conjunction those... wall are not the sole reason U.S. Unauthorized Immigrant Total Dips to Lowest Level in a Decade But in the minds of Trump's and base that's the reason




Ghost stick shads work in the Canal Mac color Sp minnows or Savage Jigs kill the bass there.. .... Doesn't mean they are As effective anywhere else .... thats the answers you have been given Multiple Times
its just not the one you want ...

So I'll ask you then, did walls work in San Diego, Yuma, and El Paso?

If the remaining terrain is so un-fit for expanded walls, why did dems approve it, in 2006 and in 2013?

Those questions have been answered a few times. No one claims walls aren't effective in some places - that is why they put flood control walls in Ansonia and Derby but walls for beacon falls were not approved (or even suggested).

Those questions have been answered a few times. No one claims walls aren't effective in some places - that is why they put flood control walls in Ansonia and Derby but walls for beacon falls were not approved (or even suggested).

many people are claiming thatbwalls don’t work even in some places, and are claiming they are immoral to boot. and, naturally, they are racist.

if the areas not currently walled have terrain not lending itself to extended walls, why did all the democrats support expanding the walls in 2006 and 2013? and why are so many border patrol professionals, including Obama’s head of the Border Patrol, insisting more walls will work?
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Go back and look at the other threads you started about this exact same subject.

Why did they put flood control walls in Ansonia and Derby but walls for beacon falls were not approved (or even suggested).

Paul,human beings(Mexicans) are smarter than water. I get your point but the comparison you are making is apples and oranges as far as dams are concerned. If there are walls in some areas and not walls in other areas,where do you think they cross? Even Mexicans are capable of critical thinking so give credit where due. Are dams going to be at the top of the hill,no. And it can’t will itself to go there. People have a little more ingenuity...maybe Mexicans will use fish ladders to get upstream.
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Go back and look at the other threads you started about this exact same subject.

Why did they put flood control walls in Ansonia and Derby but walls for beacon falls were not approved (or even suggested).

why did the democrats support the wall expansion? is it because they are too dumb to understand the desperate attempt you are making to compare to dams?

you don’t need dams, for instance, where there are no rivers. i get that.
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You don't have the amount of attempts to cross the border in the hills, mountains, desert, etc. that you do in the city. So a wall is not necessary there and you might be able to get by with something that is just as effective at much less the cost.

I'm not talking about dams. There are tall walls like 15 feet high lining the river for miles on both sides. In other areas there are rock rip raps (hills of rocks) and in other areas the water just overflows the banks and spreads out on land that is not used for anything. So they looked at what made sense for each location and didn't treat a downtown area the same as a rural area.

why did the democrats support the wall expansion? is it because they are too dumb to understand the desperate attempt you are making to compare to dams?

you don’t need dams, for instance, where there are no rivers. i get that.
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Did I say dams once? So who is the dumb one?

Did I say dams once? So who is the dumb one?

i am.

once again, why did all the leading democrats support expanding the wall in 2006 and 2013? i keep asking, i keep hearing crickets.
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Go back and look at the other threads you started as that was answered a few times.

Why did they put flood control walls in Ansonia and Derby but walls for beacon falls were not approved (or even suggested).

Paul, cool it on the dams. You said you’re smarter than that. It’s a really poor analogy. They are not going to put dams where water will never be a threat. Personally, I feel any Mexican worth his salt can scale most walls but at least it will slow them down long enough to get sent back.
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nothing to do with dams. They are walls. 1 is walls to keep water away from property and 1 is to put walls up to keep people from coming across the border. And they put them only in spots it made sense. Not along the full river.

nothing to do with dams. They are walls. 1 is walls to keep water away from property and 1 is to put walls up to keep people from coming across the border. And they put them only in spots it made sense. Not along the full river.

“not along the full river.”

trump isn’t proposing a wall from coast to
coast either, just in stretches. so your analogy seems to support Trumps plan. Unless you are saying thatmin the specific areas where he wants to build the walls, aren’t conducive to barriers. not sure how you’d know that when border patrol agents aren’t saying that, but i’m willing to listen.

but trump agrees with you, barriers don’t work across the whole
space. only in certain sections.
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He said he is proposing 1,000 miles and he has said that numerous times. Although he keeps changing his story on the length, height and who and how it will get paid . And he down plays any other solution than a "wall".

So what changed between 2013 and now where 6 years ago the Repub. weren't screaming we needed more walls? Why didn't the Dems. hate the country and want border security then like Trump is constantly screaming now?

He said he is proposing 1,000 miles and he has said that numerous times. Although he keeps changing his story on the length, height and who and how it will get paid . And he down plays any other solution than a "wall".


He has said many times that the wall would not be coast to coast but only where needed AND YOU KNOW THAT, but, worse than downplaying that, you totally ignore it.

He has said that the wall is not the total solution AND YOU KNOW THAT, but you claim that he "downplays" other solutions. But the "other" solutions are agreed on by everyone including the Dems so he doesn't have to "up-play" them, AND YOU KNOW THAT.

Yet you carry on with your ridiculous narrative.

He said he is proposing 1,000 miles and he has said that numerous times. Although he keeps changing his story on the length, height and who and how it will get paid . And he down plays any other solution than a "wall".

So what changed between 2013 and now where 6 years ago the Repub. weren't screaming we needed more walls? Why didn't the Dems. hate the country and want border security then like Trump is constantly screaming now?

"He said he is proposing 1,000 miles and he has said that numerous times. Although he keeps changing his story on the length, height and who and how it will get paid "

True, and this is an annoying trait of his. But he isn't proposing a wall from coast to coast. Only where the agents are telling him a wall will help. So stop saying that there might be areas where a wall doesn't make sense, no one is saying otherwise.

"And he down plays any other solution than a "wall". "

He harps on the wall, because that's the source of disagreement. he always is sure to talk about more agents and better technology.

"So what changed between 2013 and now where 6 years ago the Repub. weren't screaming we needed more walls?"

Here is the difference between you and I. I asked 3-4 times what changed since democrats favored the wall, and you chose not to answer. You asked me once what changed on the GOP side, and I will answer.

In 2006, Bush was President, and he wasn't as serious about the issue as Trump. In 2013, Obama was President, and he also wasn't as militant on the issue as Trump is. Today, the Republicans see that this issue was a huge reason why Trump got elected, and they don't want to be seen as soft. So sure, some of it is purely political posturing.

Now, how many times do I have to ask why the dems flip-flopped on this issue, before you'll answer?

He has said many times that the wall would not be coast to coast but only where needed AND YOU KNOW THAT, but, worse than downplaying that, you totally ignore it.

He has said that the wall is not the total solution AND YOU KNOW THAT, but you claim that he "downplays" other solutions. But the "other" solutions are agreed on by everyone including the Dems so he doesn't have to "up-play" them, AND YOU KNOW THAT.

Yet you carry on with your ridiculous narrative.

I thought I said he is proposing 1,000 miles? How did you miss that? Unless you choose to ignore it and instead say something ridiculous AND YOU KNOW THAT.:laughs:

"And he down plays any other solution than a "wall". "

He harps on the wall, because that's the source of disagreement. he always is sure to talk about more agents and better technologyI don't hear him. It always a "Big beautiful wall".

"So what changed between 2013 and now where 6 years ago the Repub. weren't screaming we needed more walls?"

Here is the difference between you and I. I asked 3-4 times what changed since democrats favored the wall, and you chose not to answer. bc it has been discussed numerous times in other threadsYou asked me once what changed on the GOP side, and I will answer.

In 2006, Bush was President, and he wasn't as serious about the issue as Trump. In 2013, Obama was President, and he also wasn't as militant on the issue as Trump is. Today, the Republicans see that this issue was a huge reason why Trump got elected, and they don't want to be seen as soft. So sure, some of it is purely political posturing.

Now, how many times do I have to ask why the dems flip-flopped on this issue, before you'll answer?

the senate passed the immigration reform act of 2013 (or whatever the name was) which included fencing, techn., guards and included immigration reform. The house never took it up. Trump just wants $ for a wall. He won't compromise where he takes some $ for more security and gives up something on immigration reform. Something like that will likely be agreed to and he might sign it bc he'll realize he is in a no win situation but he certainly won't propose it and he will be miserable. So the Dems will agree to more $ for security and some fences and some walls and more guards in exchange for some immigration reform. They have been saying that all along.

I thought I said he is proposing 1,000 miles? How did you miss that? Unless you choose to ignore it and instead say something ridiculous AND YOU KNOW THAT.:laughs:

He has said several things. Some are ridiculous. It would be ridiculous to say how many miles the wall (or walls since there would be gaps) the wall would be. 1000 miles sounds like a rounded off number. The border between the US and Mexico is around 2000 miles. So even taking his speculative 1000 miles, it would not be coast to coast.

I know you think Trump is stupid. So, maybe you think he ls not aware that a 1000 mile wall would be way to short to be coast to coast? Or, maybe, you're not aware that a 1000 mile wall would be way short of being coast to coast?

Or, maybe you just want to keep up your ridiculous narrative.