Can somebody please explain what it takes to become a democratic leader? The state of Virginia is under siege due to their elected officials using poor judgment. The person they choose to respond to the state of the union address s almost as upside down as Al Sharpton. Is her debt going to get a similar pardon? It is entertaining and embarrassing at the same time. What a party of deception they have become.

i think to be a democratic leader, you have to be unwilling to celebrate economic growth, military heroes, law
enforcement heroes, and freedom. but you must be then willing to jump up and down, and high five everyone around you, to celebrate yourself. oh, and for sure you have to believe that an unborn child
is no more meaningful
than a mole to be removed. and apparently it helps if you like to dress as blackface.
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Can somebody please explain what it takes to become a democratic leader? The state of Virginia is under siege due to their elected officials using poor judgment. The person they choose to respond to the state of the union address s almost as upside down as Al Sharpton. Is her debt going to get a similar pardon? It is entertaining and embarrassing at the same time. What a party of deception they have become.

I find the whole Virginia issue a distraction from real issues, perhaps the media finds it exciting, but why is it national news. Perhaps they could look at the number of republican legislators convicted vs democrats, but that means little also.

I don't think Stacey Abrams is in that bad a place.
Perhaps she should have refused to release her tax returns.
She has Debt, how unusual for an American. She may have made some bad financial choices in her life, but I don't think she is or has been bankrupt.
Do you have to claim to be a billionaire to run for office?
She has a net worth of 510K and debt of 220K, a good income potential and she is 46.
She helped her parents after Katrina, isn't that what conservatives say people should do, help each other and not depend on the government?
Lots of Americans are in worse shape.

pete, how convenient you find the VA “issue”, where all the top democrats are up to their eyeballs in scandal, to be a mere distraction.

i really wish we could
just come up with a set of rules for what’s acceptable and what’s not, and apply them equally to both parties. how f*cked up are we, that we cant come close to doing that? Neither side can come
close to being fair. Let’s flush the toilet, and elect rational
people who though they may disagree, can do so fairly and honestly.

i could care less if
someone put black makeup on in 1985. as for accusations of sexual
assault, give them
a hearing where they are innocent until proven guilty.
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I pay no attention to Virginia politics, why should I?
What difference will politics there make in your life that you are so concerned about it.
Perhaps more concerning is that since 1969 Republican administrations have had 121 indictments and 89 convictions while the Democrats had 3 and 1
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This is a typical liberal response from PeteF. Dismissing these acts as acceptable because they are not in his state,therefore they don’t concern him. The real problem apparently occurred 5 decades ago so lets focus on that and overlook the current climate,nothing to see here.🤡
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This is a typical liberal response from PeteF. Dismissing these acts as acceptable because they are not in his state,therefore they don’t concern him. The real problem apparently occurred 5 decades ago so lets focus on that and overlook the current climate,nothing to see here.🤡
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I did not say they were acceptable, I said they were unimportant to me. You can find lots of people in Government who commit crimes, this is like the stupid hat trick that scissored the population.

You don't have to go back that far and there is a difference

Convictions per year in office for the past 50+ years
Trump 3.5
Obama 0 though i think they skipped Petraeus .125
Bush 1.1
Clinton .25
Bush .25
Reagan 2
Carter 0
Ford .4
Nixon 9.8
Johnson 0

Do you choose to hold the party responsible or the individuals PeteF?
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Perhaps more concerning is that since 1969 Republican administrations have had 121 indictments and 89 convictions while the Democrats had 3 and 1
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Looks like more than 3.

Anthony Weiner (D-NY)[5] was convicted of sending sexually explicit photos of himself to a 15-year-old girl and was made to sign the sexual offenders register. (2017)[6]

Corrine Brown (D-FL) was convicted on 18 felony counts of wire and tax fraud, conspiracy, lying to federal investigators, and other corruption charges. (2017)[7][8]

Chaka Fattah (D-PA) was convicted on 23 counts of racketeering, fraud, and other corruption charges. (2016)[9]

Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-IL) pleaded guilty February 20, 2013, to one count of wire and mail fraud in connection with his misuse of $750,000 in campaign funds. Jackson was sentenced to two-and-one-half years' imprisonment. (2013)[17]

Laura Richardson (D-CA) was found guilty on seven counts of violating US House rules by improperly using her staff to campaign for her, destroying the evidence and tampering with witness testimony. The House Ethics Committee ordered Richardson to pay a fine of $10,000. (2012)[18][19]

William J. Jefferson (D-LA) was charged in August 2005 after the FBI seized $90,000 in cash from his home freezer. He was re-elected to the House in 2006, but lost in 2008. He was convicted November 13, 2009, of 11 counts of bribery and sentenced to 13 years in prison. (2009)[39] Jefferson's Chief of Staff Brett Pfeffer, was sentenced to 84 months for bribery. (2006)[40]

Frank Ballance (D-NC) admitted to federal charges of money laundering and mail fraud in October 2005 and was sentenced to four years in prison. (2005)[43]

Jim Traficant (D-OH) was found guilty on ten felony counts of financial corruption, sentenced to eight years in prison and expelled from the House of Representatives. (2002)[45]

Wade Sanders (D), Deputy Assistant United States Secretary of the Navy, for Reserve Affairs, was sentenced to 37 months in prison on one charge of possession of child pornography. (2009)[46][47][48]

Darleen A. Druyun (D), Principal Deputy United States Under Secretary of the Air Force.[49] She pleaded guilty to inflating the price of contracts to favor her future employer, Boeing. In October 2004, she was sentenced to nine months in jail for corruption, fined $5,000, given three years of supervised release and 150 hours of community service (2005).[50] CBS News called it "the biggest Pentagon scandal in 20 years" and said that she pleaded guilty to a felony.[51]

Mel Reynolds (D-IL) was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. (1997) He was later convicted of 12 counts of bank fraud. (1999)

Austin Murphy (D-PA) was convicted of one count of voter fraud for filling out absentee ballots for members of a nursing home. (1999)[54]


House banking scandal[55] The House of Representatives Bank found that 450 members had overdrawn their checking accounts, but not been penalized. Six were convicted of charges, most only tangentially related to the House Bank itself. Twenty two more of the most prolific over-drafters were singled out by the House Ethics Committee. (1992)

Carl C. Perkins (D-KY) pleaded guilty to a check kiting scheme involving several financial institutions (including the House Bank).[57]

Carroll Hubbard (D-KY) was convicted of illegally funneling money to his wife's 1992 campaign to succeed him in Congress.[58]

Mary Rose Oakar (D-OH) pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor campaign finance charge not related to the House Bank.[59]

Walter Fauntroy (D-District of Columbia) was convicted of filing false disclosure forms to hide unauthorized income.[60]


Congressional Post Office scandal (1991–1995) was a conspiracy to embezzle House Post Office money through stamps and postal vouchers to congressmen.[61]

Dan Rostenkowski (D-IL) was convicted and sentenced to 18 months in prison, in 1995.[62]

Joe Kolter (D-PA) pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy and sentenced to 6 months in prison.(1996)[63][64]

Thomas Porteous (D) Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas, was convicted of perjury (2010).[65]

Nicholas Mavroules (D-MA]]) was convicted of extortion, accepting illegal gifts and failing to report them on congressional disclosure and income tax forms. Mavroules pleaded guilty to fifteen counts in April 1993 and was sentenced to a fifteen-month prison term. (1993)[67][68]

Albert Bustamante (D-TX) was convicted of accepting bribes and sentenced to three-and-one-half years in prison. (1993)[69]


Abscam FBI sting involving fake 'Arabs' trying to bribe 31 congressmen. (1980)[91] The following Congressmen were convicted:

Harrison A. Williams Senator (D-NJ) Convicted on 9 counts of bribery and conspiracy. Sentenced to 3 years in prison.[92]

John Jenrette (D-SC) sentenced to two years in prison for bribery and conspiracy.[93]

Raymond Lederer (D-PA) "I can give you me" he said after accepting $50K. Sentenced to 3 years.[95]

Michael Myers (D-PA) Accepted $50K saying, "...money talks and bull#^&#^&#^&#^& walks." Sentenced to 3 years and was expelled from the House.[96]

Frank Thompson (D-NJ) Sentenced to 3 years.[97]

John M. Murphy (D-NY) Served 20 months of a 3-year sentence.[98]


Wedtech scandal Wedtech Corporation was convicted of bribery in connection with Defense Department contracts.[99]

Mario Biaggi (D-NY) Convicted of obstruction of justice and accepting illegal gratuities he was sentenced to 2½ years in prison and fined $500K. (1987)[100]

Robert Garcia (D-NY) sentenced to 2½ years.[101]

Frederick W. Richmond (D-NY), Convicted of tax evasion and possession of marijuana. Served 9 months (1982)[105]

Dan Flood (D-PA) censured for bribery. After a trial ended in a deadlocked jury, pleaded guilty and was sentenced to a year's probation. (1981)[106][107]

Joshua Eilberg (D-PA) pleaded guilty to conflict-of-interest charges. (1981)[108]

Frank M. Clark (D-PA) pleaded guilty to mail fraud and tax evasion and was sentenced to two years in prison. (1979)[111]

Fred Richmond (D-NY) – Convicted of tax fraud and possession of marijuana. Served 9 months in prison. Charges of soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy were dropped after he submitted to counseling. (1978)[113]

Charles Diggs (D-MI), convicted on 29 charges of mail fraud and filing false payroll forms which formed a kickback scheme with his staff. Sentenced to 3 years. (1978)[114]

Richard Tonry (D-LA) pleaded guilty to receiving illegal campaign contributions. (1977)[115]

Harry E. Claiborne (D) Chief Judge of the United States District Court for the District of Nevada, was convicted of tax evation (1984).

Bertram Podell (D-NY), pleaded guilty to conspiracy and conflict of interest. He was fined $5,000 and served four months in prison. (1974)[122]

Frank Brasco (D-NY) sentenced to 5 years in jail and fined $10,000 for conspiracy to accept bribes from a reputed Mafia figure who sought truck leasing contracts from the Post Office and loans to buy trucks. (1974)[108]

Richard T. Hanna (D-CA), convicted in an influence-buying scandal. (1974)[123]
John V. Dowdy (D-TX), convicted of perjury and served 6 months in prison. (1973)[124][125]

Cornelius Gallagher (D-NJ) pleaded guilty to tax evasion, and served two years in prison.(1972)[131]

Ted Kennedy Senator (D-MA) drove his car into the channel between Chappaquid#^&#^&#^&#^& Island and Martha's Vineyard, killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne. Kennedy pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident and received a suspended sentence of two months (1969)[132]

This is a typical liberal response from PeteF. Dismissing these acts as acceptable because they are not in his state,therefore they don’t concern him. The real problem apparently occurred 5 decades ago so lets focus on that and overlook the current climate,nothing to see here.🤡
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What you pay attention to and comment on is truly telling
Ever heard of a Troll?
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What you pay attention to and comment on is truly telling
Ever heard of a Troll?
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I looked it up and saw your picture. Troll boy.
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Funny now conservatives believe a women who said she was sexually assulted. Care about black face from 40 years ago. Look at who broke these stories and why and then you’ll fully understand .. there is no moral outrage behind it .. it was a planned targetedattact .. guess who’s looks to take the seat if they all fall as planned a republican
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Do you choose to hold the party responsible or the individuals PeteF?
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What's your point?
Can somebody please explain what it takes to become a democratic leader?

i think to be a democratic leader, you have to be unwilling to celebrate economic growth, military heroes, law
enforcement heroes, and freedom. but you must be then willing to jump up and down, and high five everyone around you, to celebrate yourself. oh, and for sure you have to believe that an unborn child
is no more meaningful
than a mole to be removed. and apparently it helps if you like to dress as blackface.
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It must suck to have this much hate.

I looked it up and saw your picture. Troll boy.
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Lol I am still waiting for you to take a postition on any topic you talk a good game but never say much ..
About the issue . You have no reservations talking about people here .. funny how that works....

But your no Troll. Yea ok
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Look at who broke these stories and why and then you’ll fully understand .. there is no moral outrage behind it .. it was a planned targetedattact ..
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Curious if you applied this same line of logic to the Kavanaugh hearings?

Looks like more than 3.



And you conveniently skipped any Republicans,
Connecticut Gov. John G. Rowland, Republican
Rep. Duke Cunningham, R-Calif.
Illinois Gov. George H. Ryan, Republican
Lewis Libby
Idaho Sen. Larry Craig, Republican
Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, Republican
Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas
Idaho Sen. Mike Crapo, Republican
Rep. Rick Renzi, R-Ariz.
Trey Radel, R-Fla.
And
Voters reelected two Republican Congressmen, Chris Collins of New York and Duncan Hunter of California, who are facing federal indictments for alleged insider trading and campaign corruption, respectively.

And you conveniently skipped any Republicans,
Connecticut Gov. John G. Rowland, Republican
Rep. Duke Cunningham, R-Calif.
Illinois Gov. George H. Ryan, Republican
Lewis Libby
Idaho Sen. Larry Craig, Republican
Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, Republican
Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas
Idaho Sen. Mike Crapo, Republican
Rep. Rick Renzi, R-Ariz.
Trey Radel, R-Fla.
And
Voters reelected two Republican Congressmen, Chris Collins of New York and Duncan Hunter of California, who are facing federal indictments for alleged insider trading and campaign corruption, respectively.

Pete, how do you expect to have any credibility when you have the number at 3 and TDF posts a list that you ignore and then wonder why it doesn’t include republicans ? Seriously,what kind of source gave you the 3. WTF are you trying to push?
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Lol I am still waiting for you to take a postition on any topic you talk a good game but never say much ..
About the issue . You have no reservations talking about people here .. funny how that works....

But your no Troll. Yea ok
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I have been doing it since ‘02

You have my pity.
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Pete, how do you expect to have any credibility when you have the number at 3 and TDF posts a list that you ignore and then wonder why it doesn’t include republicans ? Seriously,what kind of source gave you the 3. WTF are you trying to push?
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I'm still waiting for Pete (or WDMSO or Spence) to answer if walls worked in San Diego, Yuma, or El Paso?

Pete, how do you expect to have any credibility when you have the number at 3 and TDF posts a list that you ignore and then wonder why it doesn’t include republicans ? Seriously,what kind of source gave you the 3. WTF are you trying to push?
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Here's where this started for me:
"Perhaps more concerning is that since 1969 Republican administrations have had 121 indictments and 89 convictions while the Democrats had 3 and 1"
Then TDF replied with a bunch of Congressmen
Not one of TDFs was in an administration
All of mine were based on members of Presidential administrations, perhaps that was not clear enough or maybe some, like Trump seems to, think Presidents control Congress.

I'm still waiting for Pete (or WDMSO or Spence) to answer if walls worked in San Diego, Yuma, or El Paso?
PEACHES

Here's where this started for me:
"Perhaps more concerning is that since 1969 Republican administrations have had 121 indictments and 89 convictions while the Democrats had 3 and 1"
Then TDF replied with a bunch of Congressmen
Not one of TDFs was in an administration
All of mine were based on members of Presidential administrations, perhaps that was not clear enough or maybe some, like Trump seems to, think Presidents control Congress.

Ahh, so nothing to see here

And you conveniently skipped any Republicans,
Connecticut Gov. John G. Rowland, Republican
Rep. Duke Cunningham, R-Calif.
Illinois Gov. George H. Ryan, Republican
Lewis Libby
Idaho Sen. Larry Craig, Republican
Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, Republican
Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas
Idaho Sen. Mike Crapo, Republican
Rep. Rick Renzi, R-Ariz.
Trey Radel, R-Fla.
And
Voters reelected two Republican Congressmen, Chris Collins of New York and Duncan Hunter of California, who are facing federal indictments for alleged insider trading and campaign corruption, respectively.

I didn't skip them, I wasn't disputing the Republicans number, I was disputing the Democrats number.

I didn't skip them, I wasn't disputing the Republicans number, I was disputing the Democrats number.

Then find Democrats in administrations, I added Petraeus because he was in Obama's and not counted.

Then find Democrats in administrations, I added Petraeus because he was in Obama's and not counted.

What positions do you consider as part of an administration? The Cabinet? Advisors?

PEACHES

It's a simple, pertinent yes/no question, that has stopped you in your tracks.

Just answer it!

What positions do you consider as part of an administration? The Cabinet? Advisors?

Lets say people in the administrative branch appointed or hired by the Administration.
Get Googling!

Lets say people in the administrative branch appointed or hired by the Administration.
Get Googling!

What's an "Administrative" Branch? Is this something that AOC is pushing for? :hihi:

What's an "Administrative" Branch? Is this something that AOC is pushing for? :hihi:

Ahh
Executive branch
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It must suck to have this much hate.


Thats funny.
I come on this site daily as I have since John R started it and day after day the the only thing you can count on New to read is the political forum so I click on it and read, sometimes I post just to stir the pot, and it’s the same people day in day out posting and I say to myself, what a bunch of losers who do nothing but bitch about Trump day after day, you being one of them !
You could be dead tomorrow and this is how you spend your days & nights 🤔
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http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/showthread.php?p=1161667#post1161667


Another example
😜
I wonder if either of these 2 been layed in the last 10-15 years 🤔
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Thats funny.
I come on this site daily as I have since John R started it and day after day the the only thing you can count on New to read is the political forum so I click on it and read, sometimes I post just to stir the pot, and it’s the same people day in day out posting and I say to myself, what a bunch of losers who do nothing but bitch about Trump day after day, you being one of them !
You could be dead tomorrow and this is how you spend your days & nights ��
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I don't think most (but not all) people throw around insults like that.

I only bitch about him on company time.

I guess I can resort to the type of posts you usually make but I have too much respect for woman to do what you usually post.

Funny you didn't have a problem when the whiney people would post about Obama's brown suit or other petty things.

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/showthread.php?p=1161667#post1161667


Another example
😜
I wonder if either of these 2 been layed in the last 10-15 years 🤔
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I find that the guys who wonder things like that, haven’t gotten any.
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I find that the guys who wonder things like that, haven’t gotten any.
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And dream of #^&#^&#^&#^&s and snowflakes all day long.
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And dream of #^&#^&#^&#^&s and snowflakes all day long.
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Some of the biggest anti gays are actually repressing their own homosexuality. 😂😂😂
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[QUOTE=PaulS;1161741]I don't think most (but not all) people throw around insults like that.

I only bitch about him on company time.


Isn’t that typical, on company time !

[QUOTE=PaulS;1161741]I don't think most (but not all) people throw around insults like that.

I only bitch about him on company time.


Isn’t that typical, on company time !

in my industry we're hired for our brains so nobody cares when you take a break😎
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Another example
😜
I wonder if either of these 2 been layed in the last 10-15 years 🤔
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I am happy to say I didn't have to pay for it...

Not sure if you can say the same.

Thats funny.
I come on this site daily as I have since John R started it and day after day the the only thing you can count on New to read is the political forum so I click on it and read, sometimes I post just to stir the pot, and it’s the same people day in day out posting and I say to myself, what a bunch of losers who do nothing but bitch about Trump day after day, you being one of them !
You could be dead tomorrow and this is how you spend your days & nights 🤔
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What a bunch of losers posting day in and day out !!

Says the guy Guy who States he come's here daily to read posts I only post to sir the pot..

your a classic Troll right alongside Jeff getting your rocks off by throwing rocks

What a bunch of losers posting day in and day out !!

Says the guy Guy who States he come's here daily to read posts I only post to sir the pot..

your a classic Troll right alongside Jeff getting your rocks off by throwing rocks

Wayne,now you are throwing shade at your allies. Like the caged rat I always knew you were.
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What a bunch of losers posting day in and day out !!

Says the guy Guy who States he come's here daily to read posts I only post to sir the pot..

your a classic Troll right alongside Jeff getting your rocks off by throwing rocks




There you go.
I’ll bet you and the other regulars in this political didn’t sleep a minute last night festering over my posts and will for many more days.
Me, I don’t give a f*** anymore.
Both sides suck and could care less about you or I and if we live or die. They are both in bed together and don’t give a crap about the American people, just their power & wealth.
I’m trying not to waste 1 more minute worrying about politics or either party.
I support Trump because it’s my and all of his supporters belief he’s not part of either party and that’s very apparent with most all republicans, most of them hate him.
The Raider fan in me does get enjoyment by busting balls and adding to your misery 😜
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I’ll bet you and the other regulars in this political didn’t sleep a minute last night festering over my posts and will for many more days.
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I could care less what you post. I don't know you so why would I care what you say on the internet.

I am surprised that anyone would care what I say here.

There you go.
I’ll bet you and the other regulars in this political didn’t sleep a minute last night festering over my posts and will for many more days.
Me, I don’t give a f*** anymore.
Both sides suck and could care less about you or I and if we live or die. They are both in bed together and don’t give a crap about the American people, just their power & wealth.
I’m trying not to waste 1 more minute worrying about politics or either party.
I support Trump because it’s my and all of his supporters belief he’s not part of either party and that’s very apparent with most all republicans, most of them hate him.
The Raider fan in me does get enjoyment by busting balls and adding to your misery 😜
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Trump has you duped man. Your logic is correct about both parties not caring about the little guys welfare, but where you are wrong is trump doesn’t either. He only cares about growing his and his family’s wealth and power and paying less taxes. His wall sharade isn’t nothing more than a diversion from the epic plundering that is going on in DC.
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The tactic of the wall is to make everyone think that the threat to their prosperity comes from those less fortunate than themselves. Meanwhile the greatest threat is from those with more.
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The tactic of the wall is to make everyone think that the threat to their prosperity comes from those less fortunate than themselves. Meanwhile the greatest threat is from those with more.
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if that’s the tactic, why did democrats support extending the wall, in 2006 and 2013?
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if that’s the tactic, why did democrats support extending the wall, in 2006 and 2013?
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Because they wanted to distract you as well
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Trump has you duped man. Your logic is correct about both parties not caring about the little guys welfare, but where you are wrong is trump doesn’t either. He only cares about growing his and his family’s wealth and power and paying less taxes. His wall sharade isn’t nothing more than a diversion from the epic plundering that is going on in DC.
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That’s funny
“Trump has you duped man”

That’s a riot coming from a Bernie Bro 😜
Let me guess, your in full support of AOCs plan to outlaw cow farts 🤭
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Because they wanted to distract you as well
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well that makes about as much sense as everything you say.
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The tactic of the wall is to make everyone think that the threat to their prosperity comes from those less fortunate than themselves. Meanwhile the greatest threat is from those with more.
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no one thinks people
who cross illegally are our biggest threat. but it is a threat, one that can be reduced with simple public policy.
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no one thinks people
who cross illegally are our biggest threat. but it is a threat, one that can be reduced with simple public policy.
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Wealth inequality, monopolies, Corperate welfare are a far greater threat. Not a peep about it from the gop. Crickets in fact.

Good luck on your tax return as well
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To be fair we never heard much about wealth inequality during the previous administration either. Seems it’s the hot topic du jour but it’s been trending that way for more than two years. As far as tax returns,I can’t wait to realize the savings as it will certainly be substantial. I hope everyone has similar experiences.
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The more I read about Amy Klobuchar,the more she seems a formidable candidate.
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Funny now conservatives believe a women who said she was sexually assulted. Care about black face from 40 years ago. Look at who broke these stories and why and then you’ll fully understand .. there is no moral outrage behind it .. it was a planned targetedattact .. guess who’s looks to take the seat if they all fall as planned a republican
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This is why I'm following this issue. It's a great moral dilemma for the party. Give them all a fair trial and let the chips fall where they may, which could lead to putting a republican in the seat, or sweep it under the rug because it could put a republican in the seat.

Not saying either party hasn't faces the exact consequences in the past and done either or, just watching now given the recent climate and accusations. Not to mention potential impacts to 2020.

And as far as who and why it was pointed out, as in a targeted attack, is there a situation where this stuff shouldn't be forced to light? :huh:

This is why I'm following this issue. It's a great moral dilemma for the party. Give them all a fair trial and let the chips fall where they may, which could lead to putting a republican in the seat, or sweep it under the rug because it could put a republican in the seat.

Not saying either party hasn't faces the exact consequences in the past and done either or, just watching now given the recent climate and accusations. Not to mention potential impacts to 2020.



It is a moral dilemma but I think (both parties) have to bite the bullet and deal w/the short term pain for the good of their party. Cut the parties loose and move on.

I can see both sides of the black face debate given how old the event was. The rape(r) is a different thing.

Wealth inequality, monopolies, Corperate welfare are a far greater threat. Not a peep about it from the gop. Crickets in fact.

Good luck on your tax return as well
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how does someone else’s wealth threaten me? i’m all ears...if warren buffet earns another billion in 2019, please tell us how that hurts anyone else. you can’t, because it doesn’t.

i did my tax return. the tax cuts, as i said, will cover the payments on my new camper. the child
tax credits saved us a lot. we spent 25 nights in that camper this year, loved every second of it, great family memories, and every congressmen and senator in my state, voted against it.
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wdmso, there isn’t much hypocrisy in the gop with the assault claims. with kavanaugh, the gop had hearings and an fbi investigation, and concluded there was no corroborating evidence. i hear republicans saying the same thing with the lt governor...have a hearing but he’s innocent until proven guilty.

the democrats, during the kavanaugh hearings, kept saying we must believe all women, and that an accusation was enough to find him guilty. none are saying that now.
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wdmso, there isn’t much hypocrisy in the gop with the assault claims. with kavanaugh, the gop had hearings and an fbi investigation, and concluded there was no corroborating evidence. i hear republicans saying the same thing with the lt governor...have a hearing but he’s innocent until proven guilty.

the democrats, during the kavanaugh hearings, kept saying we must believe all women, and that an accusation was enough to find him guilty. none are saying that now.
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Why should they? You get what you give.
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I can see both sides of the black face debate given how old the event was. .

I was around it the 80's...it was not acceptable to dress in black face with a Klansman at parties ....or anywhere else.....even WAY back then...good grief :huh:

Why should they? You get what you give.
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why should they? because that’s wht they said three months ago. what they got, was fair due process. a hearing, with nothing but accusations full of all kinds of
holes. the dems did
a complete 180 on this. when the accused is a democrat, he enjoys the presumption of innocence. when the accused is a republican, we can skip the trial and go straight to sentencing. where are all the idiots who said we
must believe all
women?
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I was around it the 80's...it was not acceptable to dress in black face with a Klansman at parties ....or anywhere else.....even WAY back then...good grief :huh:

He knows this but can’t quite get the courage to be honest.
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He knows this but can’t quite get the courage to be honest.
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Actually I said in the thread about the governor that he should not be governor nor should people be senators who have done that. It's funny you have nothing to say in most post other than a comment on other people. Sort of like an old lady.
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It's funny you have nothing to say in most post other than a comment on other people. Sort of like an old lady.
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now you are insulting old ladies?

"Sort of"
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Actually I said in the thread about the governor that he should not be governor nor should people be senators who have done that. It's funny you have nothing to say in most post other than a comment on other people. Sort of like an old lady.
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In my industry we are hired to comment on others posts,hope it does not offend and please don’t take it personally.
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"Sort of"
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so he only "sort of" resembles through his posts the old ladies that you are insulting.......why do you have so much hate in your heart for the elderly female population??

so he only "sort of" resembles through his posts the old ladies that you are insulting.......why do you have so much hate in your heart for the elderly female population??

They are a burden to society. Using up so much health care $.

The tactic of the wall is to make everyone think that the threat to their prosperity comes from those less fortunate than themselves. Meanwhile the greatest threat is from those with more.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Jose, can you see"? Anyone remember that headline from the Herald?

Elites divide us so we want to work against each other which collectively "controls" us all. Politicians pushing policies on their behalf to allow them to continue to horde wealth, real wealth (Rothchilds type wealth) while the money rolls in from lobbyists.

Forget about the Trump Russia collusion investigation (sad to see how many are falling for that smoke show), how about we demand the top 10 wealthiest politicians are subjected to the same scrutiny and demand to know how they are all worth more than $25M on a senator's salary. The brief glimpse behind the Clinton curtain through the Doggy Dossier investigation should tell you all you need to know. It's all a corrupt scam and nobody's above weaponizing the FBI or DOJ to protect it.

It's an FB cliche' but it's never been more true, "The left and the right are wings of the same bird".

There is no low through upper class. It's the elites against the working poor, which includes everyone on this site, no matter how well off you are, when you look at it from the prospective of the "wealthy". Anyone who believes differently are blind sheep and 99% of the #^&#^&#^&#^& argued about in this thread amounts to less than a piss hole in the snow in the overall picture.

Stop fighting each other and start fighting together.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Jose, can you see"? Anyone remember that headline from the Herald?

Elites divide us so we want to work against each other which collectively "controls" us all. Politicians pushing policies on their behalf to allow them to continue to horde wealth, real wealth (Rothchilds type wealth) while the money rolls in from lobbyists.

Forget about the Trump Russia collusion investigation (sad to see how many are falling for that smoke show), how about we demand the top 10 wealthiest politicians are subjected to the same scrutiny and demand to know how they are all worth more than $25M on a senator's salary. The brief glimpse behind the Clinton curtain through the Doggy Dossier investigation should tell you all you need to know. It's all a corrupt scam and nobody's above weaponizing the FBI or DOJ to protect it.

It's an FB cliche' but it's never been more true, "The left and the right are wings of the same bird".

There is no low through upper class. It's the elites against the working poor, which includes everyone on this site, no matter how well off you are, when you look at it from the prospective of the "wealthy". Anyone who believes differently are blind sheep and 99% of the #^&#^&#^&#^& argued about in this thread amounts to less than a piss hole in the snow in the overall picture.

Stop fighting each other and start fighting together.

Agree 1,000%
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Jose, can you see"? Anyone remember that headline from the Herald?

Elites divide us so we want to work against each other which collectively "controls" us all. Politicians pushing policies on their behalf to allow them to continue to horde wealth, real wealth (Rothchilds type wealth) while the money rolls in from lobbyists.

Forget about the Trump Russia collusion investigation (sad to see how many are falling for that smoke show), how about we demand the top 10 wealthiest politicians are subjected to the same scrutiny and demand to know how they are all worth more than $25M on a senator's salary. The brief glimpse behind the Clinton curtain through the Doggy Dossier investigation should tell you all you need to know. It's all a corrupt scam and nobody's above weaponizing the FBI or DOJ to protect it.

It's an FB cliche' but it's never been more true, "The left and the right are wings of the same bird".

There is no low through upper class. It's the elites against the working poor, which includes everyone on this site, no matter how well off you are, when you look at it from the prospective of the "wealthy". Anyone who believes differently are blind sheep and 99% of the #^&#^&#^&#^& argued about in this thread amounts to less than a piss hole in the snow in the overall picture.

Stop fighting each other and start fighting together.
A voice of reason, instead of insults and petty juvenile posts about our spelling prowess.
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A voice of reason, instead of insults and petty juvenile posts about our spelling prowess.
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so if you aren't elite you are working poor? that's stupid....:uhuh:

as far as the spelling....it's not the spelling...it's the condescension that precedes the lack of ability to spell simple words or form coherent sentences that is amusing and ironic....

Given the advent of spell check you have to try hard to remain ignorant.
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so if you aren't elite you are working poor? that's stupid....:uhuh:

as far as the spelling....it's not the spelling...it's the condescension that precedes the lack of ability to spell simple words or form coherent sentences that is amusing and ironic....

Did you have to go back and edit your post to fix a typo?

Lol
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Did you have to go back and edit your post to fix a typo?

Lol
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no...I added the second part regarding spelling geniuses

Given the advent of spell check you have to try hard to remain ignorant.
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I would flip that around, you must have cognitive issues if you can’t get the meaning of words mis-spelled because I or others aren’t super concerned about getting every post just right. I pick up my iPad and browse without my cheaters more times than not, makes me lazy not ignorant.
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I would flip that around, you must have cognitive issues if you can’t get the meaning of words mis-spelled because I or others aren’t super concerned about getting every post just right. I pick up my iPad and browse without my cheaters more times than not, makes me lazy not ignorant.
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It hurts to see ourself a getting old and loosing our eyes.. I need 1.5’s and 2.0 cheaters now to do anything.
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EYE HALVE A SPELLING CHEQUER
Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

A checker is a bless sing,
It freeze yew lodes of thyme.
It helps me right awl stiles two reed,
And aides me when aye rime.

Each frays come posed up on my screen,
Eye trussed two bee a joule;
The checker pours o'er every wyrd,
To cheque sum spelling rule.

Be fore a veiling chequers
Hour spelling mite decline,
And if were lacks or have a laps,
We wood bee maid to wine.

Butt now bee cause my spelling
Is checked with such grate flare,
Their are know faults with in my cite,
Off nun eye am a wear.

Now spelling does knot phase me,
It does knot bring a tier.
My pay purrs awl due glad den
With wrapped words fare as hear.

To rite with care is quite a feet
Of witch won should be proud.
And wee mussed dew the best wee can,
Sew floors are knot aloud.

Eye strike a quay and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee four two long
And eye can putt the error rite
Its rarely ever wrong.

Sow ewe can sea why aye dew prays
Such soft ware four pea seas.
And why eye brake in two averse
By righting want too pleas.

Eye half run this poem threw it
Eye am shore your pleased two no
Its let her perfect in it's weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.

-- Sauce unknown

A non e mouse

I would flip that around, you must have cognitive issues if you can’t get the meaning of words mis-spelled .

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that's right...if you can't spell correctly or form coherent sentences....others must have cognitive issues...perfect :rotf2:

that's right...if you can't spell correctly or form coherent sentences....others must have cognitive issues...perfect :rotf2:

Small is small.

If you don’t understand the meaning I can expound.


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Small is small.

If you don’t understand the meaning I can expound.


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You do know you can change the size of the font. Right?
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You do know you can change the size of the font. Right?
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Small problems being debated on this forum, the wall is so small compared to so much more domestically and internationally; but it’s what is fueling your fire. Got to have that one campaign promise win, I get it I guess.
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The wall is fueling my fire? Ok....actually AOC fuels my fire. If ya know what I mean😁
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I would flip that around, you must have cognitive issues if you can’t get the meaning of words mis-spelled because I or others aren’t super concerned about getting every post just right. I pick up my iPad and browse without my cheaters more times than not, makes me lazy not ignorant.
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The real problem I have noticed that is most alarming is that you and others aren’t super concerned about getting anything right. Glasses can’t fix that apparently.
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The real problem I have noticed that is most alarming is that you and others aren’t super concerned about getting anything right. Glasses can’t fix that apparently.
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Oh I can sea well enough without my reading glasses and I’m certain you and others understand my meaning. Did you get the sea jab or does that need clarification.

As for getting anything right, all I have expressed on this board is personal opinion, so I can’t get that wrong. Your problem and others to varying extent as evidenced by the countless insults, name calling and stupid arguments about spelling and grammar errors; is that you are just mean spirited. You would fit right in and up front at a MAGA rally.
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I am sorry if you feel that way. The truth is I grow weary of the constant ass ache and seemingly non stop party driven insults. Sometimes I am guilty of being over zealous. I hope you have a great Valentines Day.💗
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I am sorry if you feel that way. The truth is I grow weary of the constant ass ache and seemingly non stop party driven insults. Sometimes I am guilty of being over zealous. I hope you have a great Valentines Day.��
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But aren't you the one who constantly insults others by commenting on their posts w/o adding anything?

If anything bothers you in this forum I would suggest you go back to lurking snowflake :)

That’s me,I insult and add nothing and comment. However, I am not trying to make enemies. How am I doing?
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I don't know. Can you ask GS although he did state the following :

"Your problem and others to varying extent as evidenced by the countless insults, name calling and stupid arguments about spelling and grammar errors; is that you are just mean spirited. You would fit right in and up front at a MAGA rally."

I hope you are fine with that
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Not my site so you can do whatever you want
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Thanks for commenting
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Well you asked. I don't duck when people ask questions.
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A real man,I like that. 💪🏻
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you should try it instead of constantly commenting on other people's posts like an old lady. Or go back to lurking and sulking.

you should try it instead of constantly commenting on other people's posts like an old lady. Or go back to lurking and sulking.

The technical term for that is assache. I learned it here....
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When was I lurking and sulking ?
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You said you started posting here bc you couldn't take all the comments.

No I didn’t. I have been a regular contributor since 02. No lurking nor sulking. Get some rest Paul,you are lashing out and imagining things. If you are hearing voices,go talk to somebody who can help.
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You never used to post in this forum regularly. You admittedly said you couldn't take all the complains about Trump and started posting more here.

That certainly inspired me to post more often in this forum Paul,as is the case with you obviously. But I have been contributing on the site regularly since the get go. No sulking,no lurking. Now go clean your diaper.
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