Democrats claim that Trump's "ties" to Russia are a really big and dangerous deal. And that Republicans are tainted because the KKK and Neo Nazis and the alt right supposedly are part of their constituency. But how about the Communist Party USA close ties to the Democrat Party? Check out this video from The Epoch Times news agency (I verified their bias and accuracy according to Media Bias/Fact Check which claims that it is "generally trustworthy for information" and "Overall, we rate The Epoch Times Right-Center Biased and High for factual reporting regarding USA news"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvALBKX2qPk

There is also this short piece from the Washington Times: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/29/communist-party-usa-working-with-the-democratic-pa/

And this: https://news.yahoo.com/communist-party-usa-chairman-vows-cooperation-democratic-party-141019868.html

Do you think she’s in on it?
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I think she nailed it. And there's this meme which is constantly reiterated on this forum that there is a connection between "extremists" on the far right (KKK, Neo Nazi, Alt Right) with the Republican Party and with Trump. Yet there is this functional and substantiated connection of Commies with Dems, and all you can do is ask a silly question.

So now not only are they Socialists but they are also Communists.
I believe that Republicans are effectively bringing us down the road to Communism and a totalitarian state, where the means of production and politics are controlled by the oligarchy.
Wealth and political power have been concentrated over the past 50 years in fewer people, who reduce the ability of the lower classes to organize and increase the power of corporations to the point where some are close to being monopolies.
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So now not only are they Socialists but they are also Communists.

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proudly in many cases :)

IMHO Trump has befriended three dictators/tyrants and given all three passes on behavior everyone in America should see as criminal, yet to Donald it's just the way he would like to roll anyway. He believes Putin when he claims they didn't interfere in the election, he believes the Saudi leader when he says he knew nothing about the brutal killing of one of our citizens and now he believes Kim when he says he knew nothing about the beatings of Otto. Trump is a power hungry bully and he only wishes he had the power those three have to do as they see fit.

Now it appears he is overriding US intelligence officials and getting family members, who are CLEARLY influenced by foreign governments due to family financial ties, sorry I'm more afraid of the loose cannon running the country.

But when Obama brought Cuba into the fold he was a hero and Castro was a victim of circumstance. It’s a shame he left that Otto kid to die before Trump could bring him home.
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So now not only are they Socialists but they are also Communists.
I believe that Republicans are effectively bringing us down the road to Communism and a totalitarian state, where the means of production and politics are controlled by the oligarchy.
Wealth and political power have been concentrated over the past 50 years in fewer people, who reduce the ability of the lower classes to organize and increase the power of corporations to the point where some are close to being monopolies.
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"I believe that Republicans are effectively bringing us down the road to Communism and a totalitarian state"

All Trump haters believe that. It's ridiculous.


"where the means of production and politics are controlled by the oligarchy"

I believe both sides have leaders who are interested in consolidating disproportionate power and wealth in the hands of a few. I can't imagine any logic that would make anyone think that's a uniquely Republican problem. Liberals want to be in charge of distributing wealth, energy consumption, healthcare, that's not totalitarian?...Long past time to drain the swamp, limit the power of special interests, and institute term limits. Short term limits.

"increase the power of corporations to the point where some are close to being monopolies"

We disagree on many things, but this is exactly correct. Spot on. Neither party has much interest in addressing this.

now he believes Kim when he says he knew nothing about the beatings of Otto. Trump is a power hungry bully and he only wishes he had the power those three have to do as they see fit.

Now it appears he is overriding US intelligence officials and getting family members, who are CLEARLY influenced by foreign governments due to family financial ties, sorry I'm more afraid of the loose cannon running the country.

"now he believes Kim when he says he knew nothing about the beatings of Otto"

I was very disappointed to hear Trump say that, it's absurd.

"Trump is a power hungry bully"

Yes he is.


"he only wishes he had the power those three have to do as they see fit"

Come on, he still calls on Jim Acosta at briefings, knowing what Acosta is going to do. Not what a dictator does.

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Now you're engaging in whataboutism. Knock it off.

So now not only are they Socialists but they are also Communists.

Which "they" are you referring to? There are openly avowed Socialists in the Democrat Party holding public office. There is a verified infiltration of the CPUSA in the Democrat Party. And there are the millions of Democrat voters who don't know about the latter and are partially favorable to the former.

I believe that Republicans are effectively bringing us down the road to Communism and a totalitarian state, where the means of production and politics are controlled by the oligarchy.

I don't know if you watched the video. It's only about 11 minutes and packed with documented Communist infiltrators working in the Democrat Party. Yet you do not acknowledge that. You do not discuss that. You deflect to another subject. You claim that Republicans are bringing us to Communism, and totally ignore that the Communists are supporting and working in the Democrat Party. This is a very strange and unconvincing line of reasoning. Actually, it's illogical.

Wealth and political power have been concentrated over the past 50 years in fewer people, who reduce the ability of the lower classes to organize and increase the power of corporations to the point where some are close to being monopolies.
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When you frame your argument within a class structure you are in the realm of Marxist Speak. A free market basically has no well defined classes. It has flexibility and fluidity of movement within the economic hierarchy. A Marxist system has a well defined class structure in which there is no flexibility or movement--only entrenchment or extinction.

The only true and permanent monopoly is state monopoly. In free and open markets, monopolies don't actually exist. And the capture of market share by one entity in free markets is usually good for the consumer because it is made possible by competitive pricing and more efficient production. Market power in a free market is the result of competition, and can (and will) be toppled by competition and innovation. True progress, in markets and governance, is only achieved through freedom.

If you can document how Republicans more than Democrats are leading us to state control of our lives that would be enlightening. In the meantime, the most ruthless statist form of politics and government in the modern world has infiltrated the Democrat party, not the Republican party.

When you frame your argument within a class structure you are in the realm of Marxist Speak. A free market basically has no well defined classes. It has flexibility and fluidity of movement within the economic hierarchy. A Marxist system has a well defined class structure in which there is no flexibility or movement--only entrenchment or extinction.

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When people talk about how totalitarian we are, I always go back to the stereotypical Asian immigrant family who comes here with nothing, and in one generation, their kids are doctors. That happens all the time, when you are dealing with people who will never stop working for what they want.

A society that allows that kind of upward economic mobility, is free. It cannot be called otherwise. But it would be better not to have powerful people making decisions in their own best interests, rather than the collective best interest.

If Capitalism is perfect and Socialism is deeply flawed, and therefor all means of production, assets, etc were owned by people and not the government, what incentive would private prisons have to reduce recidivism or even release people?
A person on the street is worth nothing to them, but everyone incarcerated is valuable.
I know I just confused Jim, but that is an example of capitalism that is currently occurring and I think it should bother us.
We live in a socialist democracy/republic (Madison and Marshall argued about democracy/republic hundreds of years ago, nobody won) and here are some examples of what that has gained us:
Public Libraries
Public Schools
Roads
Municipal sewer and water systems
Armed forces
Police departments
Public hospitals
Veterans Administration
Social Security
Medicaid
Public transportation
Public anything
Pretty horrible scary stuff, isn't it?
We have been doing it in this country since 1802 when the Corp of Engineers was permanently established and started mapping, building lighthouses and roads.
Trying to scare people with trigger words is typical of the current Trumplican Party.
I think there is far greater chance of this government becoming totalitarian than communist, Trump certainly has great appreciation for all the totalitarians he meets and believes them more than his fellow Americans.
Putin on interference, the Saudis on Kashoggi, Kim Jong Un on Warmbier.

When people talk about how totalitarian we are, I always go back to the stereotypical Asian immigrant family who comes here with nothing, and in one generation, their kids are doctors. That happens all the time, when you are dealing with people who will never stop working for what they want.

A society that allows that kind of upward economic mobility, is free. It cannot be called otherwise. But it would be better not to have powerful people making decisions in their own best interests, rather than the collective best interest.

Those Good Asians, statistically all second generation immigrants do better than native born, not just Asians.

The powerful people currently own the corporations and control the Congress and our government. All you had to do to see that is watch the Senate hearings with Big Pharma.

When murdering and raping immigrants fail to motivate the base... they move to crying about abortions and baby killing!! when that fails they jump to Socialists and Communists fear ... and when that doesn't work the media is the enemy when that gets old they start all over again

If Capitalism is perfect and Socialism is deeply flawed, and therefor all means of production, assets, etc were owned by people and not the government, what incentive would private prisons have to reduce recidivism or even release people?
A person on the street is worth nothing to them, but everyone incarcerated is valuable.

Capitalism is a system. No system is perfect. It is also amoral. No matter how close to perfection it may be, it can be used for immoral purposes, depending on your version of morality. A version of capitalism can be used by authoritarian states as well as free market societies. It can be used by criminals, cartels, religious collectives as well as free private citizens to gather wealth for whatever purpose they wish.

Ultimately, "all means of production, assets, etc" as you put it, are owned by people whether ostensibly by government ("The People") or by individuals or corporate structures. Generally the closer to being owned by an individual an asset is, the more it will be cared for and made to flourish and function properly. Ownership by "The People" is the most inefficient and difficult to properly maintain since it comprises the greatest degree of disagreement among the owners. Nonetheless, for purposes of government, ownership by "The People" of various things and processes is part of establishing forms of government.

When government outsources a function to the private sector, the owner(s) of the business have to handle the asset as well as if it were their own invented and established business if they wish to maintain the contract. Free market, competition, if there is such, would motivate the contractor to do the job well. If private prisons created worse outcomes than government ones, the government would be foolish to keep them. Private prison contactors would be capitalistically wise to handle the assets in such ways that they would keep and perhaps expand the business. Contrary to your notion that "A person on the street is worth nothing to them, but everyone incarcerated is valuable", the persons on the street, "The People," are paying them for their service, and so they are of primary value. And the value of those being incarcerated diminishes if they are handled in ways that encourage recidivism so that "The People" become dissatisfied with the product.


I know I just confused Jim, but that is an example of capitalism that is currently occurring and I think it should bother us.
We live in a socialist democracy/republic (Madison and Marshall argued about democracy/republic hundreds of years ago, nobody won)

We may well be drifting toward socialism but we are not there yet. You may be confusing "welfare state" with "socialism." And we are still not yet a pure democracy. We are still a republic with a quasi-democratic system of electing politicians. Our system is sliding toward authoritarianism more so than socialism because of the unconstitutionally contrived administrative bureaucracy. But that can eventually, as it grows, and in not a short time, transform into actual socialistic, then communistic government.

and here are some examples of what that has gained us:
Public Libraries
Public Schools
Roads
Municipal sewer and water systems
Armed forces
Police departments
Public hospitals
Veterans Administration
Social Security
Medicaid
Public transportation
Public anything
Pretty horrible scary stuff, isn't it?
We have been doing it in this country since 1802 when the Corp of Engineers was permanently established and started mapping, building lighthouses and roads.
Trying to scare people with trigger words is typical of the current Trumplican Party.

Actually, we've been doing just about all those things, in various forms, well before 1802. People do good stuff. Free people do really good stuff. It doesn't require the massive administrative state that we've been growing since the past 70 or 80 years to do those things. Instead of being done more efficiently, economically, and better, by free market, capitalistic, and diverse local governance, most of those things have become cumbersome debt ridden albatrosses concocted by an expanding centralized government around the neck of less free people.

And you're really good at spewing memes, trigger words, and dog whistles, yourself. You're almost as good at it as is the Democrat Party. Or should I say the ever becoming Socialist, Communist, Democrat Party.


I think there is far greater chance of this government becoming totalitarian than communist,

I know you haven't noticed, but our government has progressively been becoming more totalitarian for quite some time. Being associated with and helped by Communists as the Dems have been, more and less and now more, since the 1930's, certainly doesn't slow down that process.

Trump certainly has great appreciation for all the totalitarians he meets and believes them more than his fellow Americans.
Putin on interference, the Saudis on Kashoggi, Kim Jong Un on Warmbier.


Trump has great appreciation for a lot of things, especially American things. He seems to understand that negotiating with tyrants is not made easier by constantly, and only, insulting them. Your characterization of that being that he has an appreciation for them is a trigger, dog whistle, meme, meant to stoke anti-Trump hate.

Like, oh yeah, he was going to get any concession from Kim, or Putin, or the Saudis by constantly threatening and belittling them. The stick is good, but it needs to be accompanied by the carrot.

When murdering and raping immigrants fail to motivate the base... they move to crying about abortions and baby killing!! when that fails they jump to Socialists and Communists fear ... and when that doesn't work the media is the enemy when that gets old they start all over again

:D That's what used to be called "camp" or "campy." It's so ridiculous that it's actually funny.

Trump has great appreciation for a lot of things, especially American things. He seems to understand that negotiating with tyrants is not made easier by constantly, and only, insulting them. Your characterization of that being that he has an appreciation for them is a trigger, dog whistle, meme, meant to stoke anti-Trump hate.

Like, oh yeah, he was going to get any concession from Kim, or Putin, or the Saudis by constantly threatening and belittling them. The stick is good, but it needs to be accompanied by the carrot.
How is unrelenting ball washing to be considered a carrot? Trump seems to think he's negotiating a real estate deal with his dad's money and connections. How's that working?

I was very disappointed to hear Trump say that, it's absurd.
It's more than absurd, it shows how disconnected he is from any sense of empathy for anyone but himself.

Those Good Asians, statistically all second generation immigrants do better than native born, not just Asians.

The powerful people currently own the corporations and control the Congress and our government. All you had to do to see that is watch the Senate hearings with Big Pharma.

why do second generation immigrants do better than native born?

culture.

they don’t feel entitled to anything, they are happpy to work for it. it’s nothing that only immigrants can do. anyone can copy that approach.

and who ever said capitalism was perfect? again responding to something that has never been said, ever.
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It's more than absurd, it shows how disconnected he is from any sense of empathy for anyone but himself.

in this circumstance, i agree. in other situations, he displays lots of
empathy, but they won’t talk about that where you get your
news. is it the Daily Worker? Or Pravda?


he donated his jet
to help a gravy sick little jewish boy, an interesting act for an anti semite.
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:D That's what used to be called "camp" or "campy." It's so ridiculous that it's actually funny.

It’s like “Plan Nine from Outer Space”
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How is unrelenting ball washing to be considered a carrot? Trump seems to think he's negotiating a real estate deal with his dad's money and connections. How's that working?

If we must reduce international negotiations to idiotic, extremist, dog whistle trigger words like "unrelenting ball washing," then we might include "ball busting" like insultingly warning the "little rocket man" by saying "Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works!" And include sanctions against NK and Russia--And kneeing China's balls with tariffs--And painfully squeezing Putin's balls by bombing Syria and opening our oil floodgates to lower the price of Russian oil and arming the Ukraine--Relentless ball washing, yeah, my arse!

And Trump weaned off of Daddy's money and made his own.

You're unrelenting being stuck on stupid is on display--including being more concerned with Trump hate than wiith Communist support for and affiliation with the Democrat party.

Trump has great appreciation for a lot of things, especially American things. He seems to understand that negotiating with tyrants is not made easier by constantly, and only, insulting them. Your characterization of that being that he has an appreciation for them is a trigger, dog whistle, meme, meant to stoke anti-Trump hate.

Like, oh yeah, he was going to get any concession from Kim, or Putin, or the Saudis by constantly threatening and belittling them. The stick is good, but it needs to be accompanied by the carrot.
Trump doesn’t have the balls to confront someone, that’s why he said Putin, the Saudis and Kim told me they didn’t and I believe them.
You seriously believe that or do you believe any price is acceptable as long as you get what you want.
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Trump doesn’t have the balls to confront someone, that’s why he said Putin, the Saudis and Kim told me they didn’t and I believe them.

You seriously believe that or do you believe any price is acceptable as long as you get what you want.
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You really seem to be impressed with your ability to know what someone you've never met thinks. I "know" very little to nothing about what or who the inner Trump is. Outwardly, the little (filtered through various pro and con press and editorial coverage and personal or anecdotal stories) that I have heard or seen doesn't give me the picture of someone who lacks the balls to confront others. I thought that he would be crushed in the primary and presidential debates, but he pretty much dominated and mopped the floor with a lot of his opponents. I haven't seen any fear or reluctance in his face to face meetings with foreign leaders. I don't know what he really believes about what Putin, the Saudis and Kim told him, nor how much of what he says about it is tactical pablum for public consumption rather than true reactions that he felt it better to play down. I have learned to disregard a lot what politicians say about their political maneuvers and wait for the results.

I am not unduly critical or dissatisfied with results, especially economic, and regulatory rollbacks and judicial picks. On the contrary, I'm happy with most of them.

BTW, getting back to the subject of this thread, did you watch the video, and if so, what do you think about it?

When murdering and raping immigrants fail to motivate the base... they move to crying about abortions and baby killing!! when that fails they jump to Socialists and Communists fear ... and when that doesn't work the media is the enemy when that gets old they start all over again

Or fear of Muslims ... real funny isn't it... put up by west Va republicans in their State house

You really seem to be impressed with your ability to know what someone you've never met thinks. I "know" very little to nothing about what or who the inner Trump is. Outwardly, the little (filtered through various pro and con press and editorial coverage and personal or anecdotal stories) that I have heard or seen doesn't give me the picture of someone who lacks the balls to confront others. I thought that he would be crushed in the primary and presidential debates, but he pretty much dominated and mopped the floor with a lot of his opponents. I haven't seen any fear or reluctance in his face to face meetings with foreign leaders. I don't know what he really believes about what Putin, the Saudis and Kim told him, nor how much of what says about it is tactical pablum for public consumption rather than true reactions that he felt it better to play down. I have learned to disregard a lot what politicians say about their political maneuvers and wait for the results.

I am not unduly critical or dissatisfied with results, especially economic, and regulatory rollbacks and judicial picks. On the contrary, I'm happy with most of them.

BTW, getting back to the subject of this thread, did you watch the video, and if so, what do you think about it?

Keep believing, Trump is slowly destroying what’s been accomplished over the past 70 years, but as you’ve said you’re good with that.
I never watch your movies.
Find a transcript and I’ll read it.
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Your banging you head against a wall, everything I hear says the means justify the ends. If the house doesn’t move on impeachment it’s just fine, because all these public hearings are going to leave Trump with only his one third base for 2020; assuming he can even keep that.
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Or fear of Muslims ... real funny isn't it... put up by west Va republicans in their State house

Are you responding to another thread? Try to respond to the video I posted.

Keep believing, Trump is slowly destroying what’s been accomplished over the past 70 years, but as you’ve said you’re good with that.
I never watch your movies.
Find a transcript and I’ll read it.
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I believed that you didn't watch the video I posted. You have confirmed my belief. Now if you are done hi-jacking this thread with your usual Trump hate, can you focus on the subject of this thread.

Your banging you head against a wall, everything I hear says the means justify the ends. If the house doesn’t move on impeachment it’s just fine, because all these public hearings are going to leave Trump with only his one third base for 2020; assuming he can even keep that.
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This has nothing to do with the subject of this thread. Can you please respond to the video?

Are you responding to another thread? Try to respond to the video I posted.

He is convincing himself that he is posting on the right thread.🤡
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Your banging you head against a wall, everything I hear says the means justify the ends. If the house doesn’t move on impeachment it’s just fine, because all these public hearings are going to leave Trump with only his one third base for 2020; assuming he can even keep that.
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Is this a prediction of yours or just a belief that is based on “ everything that you hear”?
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everything I hear says the means justify the ends.


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I think you need your hearing checked :jester:

Are you responding to another thread? Try to respond to the video I posted.

Nope right thread Just examples of how Republicans use Fear :cheers2:

1st line Democrats have allowed Communist to infiltrate their Party ...

conservatives Porn brought to them By a New Zealander ?

Scott. Democrats have been aligned with Soviet / Communists / Marxists since, well, going on a century now. Hell Bernie has been calling for Revolution for decades - is this propaganda?

Socialists with a Pen or Communists with a Gun, eventually the Gun wins at a terrible cost. Sometimes, hopefully, Freedom eventually wins but usually there is a significant amount of blood.

Socialism/Communism are incompatible with Freedom. Capitalism (properly governed) can support Freedom.

Today's Russia is working both sides of the US political divide against each other, and they are succeeding. To not recognize this is to only fool one's self.

Democrats have been aligned with Soviet / Communists / Marxists since, well, going on a century now.

colluding :bl:

Like, oh yeah, he was going to get any concession from Kim, or Putin, or the Saudis by constantly threatening and belittling them. The stick is good, but it needs to be accompanied by the carrot.

It’s one thing to negotiate with a big stick in one hand and a carrot in the other, it’s quite another thing when Trump insults every American with a brain when he states he believes them when they lie about knowledge of involvement in these humanitarian crimes.

As to the video this country gives these people the right to free speech and it doesn’t surprise me there are a small number in elected offices. It’s also more troubling to me if the Trump family has ties to Russia, the Saudi or anyone else that may be influencing decisions, then a handful of elected officials.

If a republican candidate other than Trump were to run in 2020, against a Democrat I don’t feel is as qualified, I’d have a choice; which I don’t feel I had in the last election. I don’t like Trump as a person, from what I’ve read I wouldn’t like him as a businessman and I certainly don’t like him as our potus. I think he is dangerous on many levels, but again you are ok with the means as you personally are happy with the end results.
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Scott. Democrats have been aligned with Soviet / Communists / Marxists since, well, going on a century now. Hell Bernie has been calling for Revolution for decades - is this propaganda?

Socialists with a Pen or Communists with a Gun, eventually the Gun wins at a terrible cost. Sometimes, hopefully, Freedom eventually wins but usually there is a significant amount of blood.

Socialism/Communism are incompatible with Freedom. Capitalism (properly governed) can support Freedom.

Today's Russia is working both sides of the US political divide against each other, and they are succeeding. To not recognize this is to only fool one's self.

15 years ago, bernie was a fringe laughingstock. now he’s absolutey mainstream in that party, and his views haven’t changed. the party is sprinting a million miles
to the left. they attacked Biden for saying Pence is “ a decent guy”. Democrats are no longer allowed to say that about anyone who disagrees with them.
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Scott. Democrats have been aligned with Soviet / Communists / Marxists since, well, going on a century now. Hell Bernie has been calling for Revolution for decades - is this propaganda?

Socialists with a Pen or Communists with a Gun, eventually the Gun wins at a terrible cost. Sometimes, hopefully, Freedom eventually wins but usually there is a significant amount of blood.

Socialism/Communism are incompatible with Freedom. Capitalism (properly governed) can support Freedom.

Today's Russia is working both sides of the US political divide against each other, and they are succeeding. To not recognize this is to only fool one's self.

15 years ago, bernie was a fringe laughingstock. now he’s absolutey mainstream in that party, and his views haven’t changed. the party is sprinting a million miles
to the left. they attacked Biden for saying Pence is “ a decent guy”. Democrats are no longer allowed to say that about anyone who disagrees with them.
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15 years ago, bernie was a fringe laughingstock. now he’s absolutey mainstream in that party, and his views haven’t changed. the party is sprinting a million miles
to the left. they attacked Biden for saying Pence is “ a decent guy”. Democrats are no longer allowed to say that about anyone who disagrees with them.
mute leadernif the party, cortez, is making a list of those who dare to vote with the gop
on a bill.
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Hell Bernie has been calling for Revolution for decades - is this propaganda?



I don't know why this made me laugh so hard.....

15 years ago, bernie was a fringe laughingstock. now he’s absolutey mainstream in that party, and his views haven’t changed. the party is sprinting a million miles
to the left. they attacked Biden for saying Pence is “ a decent guy”. Democrats are no longer allowed to say that about anyone who disagrees with them.
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Actress and activist Cynthia Nixon tweeted, @JoeBiden you’ve just called America’s most anti-LGBT elected leader “a decent guy.”

Please consider how this falls on the ears of our community. Did she lie

Some have said Biden is putting politeness over policy.
In effect, he is saying that Pence’s record doesn’t matter.

PS in many circles Pence is an Ahole and his history reinforces that view are you suggesting Pence isn't as far right and Sanders is left

or do honestly think the Republican party hasn't moved

Nope right thread Just examples of how Republicans use Fear :cheers2:

You didn't respond to the video. You posted something about Muslims. The video was not about Muslims. The video presented facts. If you believe that facts and truth are to be feared, then quit posting what you think are facts and truth unless you're trying to scare us.

Actress and activist Cynthia Nixon tweeted, @JoeBiden you’ve just called America’s most anti-LGBT elected leader “a decent guy.”

Are you so closed minded that you think it's impossible for someone to be a decent guy if he's opposed to something he believes is wrong?

Please consider how this falls on the ears of our community. Did she lie

Did she consider how her words fall on the ears of our community?

Some have said Biden is putting politeness over policy.
In effect, he is saying that Pence’s record doesn’t matter.

It is small minded, dictatorial, even tyrranical to insist that Biden, or anyone else, must consider someone indecent if he is opposed to your policy.

PS in many circles Pence is an Ahole and his history reinforces that view are you suggesting Pence isn't as far right and Sanders is left

Do those "many circles" consider how those words fall on the ears of our community.

or do honestly think the Republican party hasn't moved

This thread is about the association of Communists with Democrats. I don't know if you're doing a whataboutism, or just avoiding having to comment on that association while you continue your diatribes against Trump, Republicans and to whom they are accused of being associated.

You also seem to be displaying a bigoted, closed minded view of what thought, or speech is correct and allowed in order to be a Democrat.

It’s one thing to negotiate with a big stick in one hand and a carrot in the other, it’s quite another thing when Trump insults every American with a brain when he states he believes them when they lie about knowledge of involvement in these humanitarian crimes.

It's quite possible that Trump is just being diplomatic--just saving Kim's face in order to make negotiations less difficult than they already, and monumentally, are. It's even possible that out of the thousands, if not millions, of humanitarian crimes committed by the NK regime, Kim is not personally aware of particular cases.

I think Trump understands that either directly, or indirectly, Kim, being the "supreme leader" of a very harsh and secretive dictatorship, is ultimately responsible for the crimes of his regime. But in the context of their private conversation, Kim may have laid out a plausible deniability. Making nice, rather than being righteously blunt, may be the discretion that is the better part of valor, so to speak, to create a more feasible condition for negotiations.

As to the video this country gives these people the right to free speech and it doesn’t surprise me there are a small number in elected offices.

It's not about a small number in elected offices. It is about the backing of the Communist party which has its tentacles spreading out to the Democrat party machines in many if not most of the states and other sectors of the country including the labor movement. The Dem/Commie connection, since the 1930's has been huge and devastating, both nationally and internationally. The deliverance of Eastern Europe, China, and NK, into the Communist sphere is directly attributed to Communist infiltration of the Democrat party. The constant drift to the left of the Democrat Party is in no small part due to Communist rhetoric lifted from Communist "aids" and district "helpers" who influence local campaigns throughout the country. The CPUSA just a few years ago sued the Democrat Party for stealing its "intellectual property" from their platform which wound up in the Democrat platform.

All of this is played down, dismissed, or totally disregarded, especially by the mostly left leaning MSM, academia, and the Democrat party. That you don't know about it, or that it can be poo-pooed as conspiracy or Republican fear mongering, or just a few elected officials is testimony to the effectiveness of the fake media effect. And that cows many to shy away from saying anything for fear of being marginalized as kooks or worse. It can cost friends as well as jobs in various milieus, especially academia and the media of all sorts.

It’s also more troubling to me if the Trump family has ties to Russia, the Saudi or anyone else that may be influencing decisions, then a handful of elected officials.

You might want to reconsider what is more troubling, a family possibly having unspecified and uncorroborated "ties" to Russia (which may be a politically motivated accusation and which whatever ties actually exist may be legitimate) and which may influence decisions by a President who would have little effective power against the opposition of both parties . . . or a political party with a proven history of effectual coordination with, and a current corroborated connection with, the Communist party that has and is influencing decisions.

If a republican candidate other than Trump were to run in 2020, against a Democrat I don’t feel is as qualified, I’d have a choice; which I don’t feel I had in the last election. I don’t like Trump as a person, from what I’ve read I wouldn’t like him as a businessman and I certainly don’t like him as our potus. I think he is dangerous on many levels, but again you are ok with the means as you personally are happy with the end results.
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I don't know of any nefarious or destructive means that Trump is employing as POTUS. I am not in like with him. And I'm certainly not in like with the Democrat Party. Nor am I in much like with the Republican party. At least there is no evidence that the Republicans are in bed with the Commies.

I mostly, not entirely, like Rand Paul. I sort of like Ted Cruz. I have a like for the freedom caucus in the Repub Party. Not a whole lot more like for the the Repubs. I like no-one or anything about the Democrat Party. There used to be some Dems in the past that I liked. Scoop Jackson. Sam Nunn. A few others who's names escape me offhand. But those types are long gone. The rising stars of the Democrat party are scary.

So I don't vote by like. They all try to be likeable. Phonies that lead us into a rabbit hole of debt and stupidity and constitutional destruction.

This thread is about the association of Communists with Democrats. I don't know if you're doing a whataboutism, or just avoiding having to comment on that association while you continue your diatribes against Trump, Republicans and to whom they are accused of being associated.

national emergency

You also seem to be displaying a bigoted, closed minded view of what thought, or speech is correct and allowed in order to be a Democrat.

You post more suggestive conspiracy laden comments and video than anyone here peddling your views as if they are based on facts.... and call others closed minded and bigoted... for calling BS ... and the list of those you support are as fringe as it gets
Seems you’re standard of measuring infiltration of communist in the Democratic Party is in par with How Trump concludes his immigrant invasion and declared National emergency
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Actress and activist Cynthia Nixon tweeted, @JoeBiden you’ve just called America’s most anti-LGBT elected leader “a decent guy.”

Please consider how this falls on the ears of our community. Did she lie

Some have said Biden is putting politeness over policy.
In effect, he is saying that Pence’s record doesn’t matter.

PS in many circles Pence is an Ahole and his history reinforces that view are you suggesting Pence isn't as far right and Sanders is left

or do honestly think the Republican party hasn't moved

the gop hasn’t moved much. can you provide specific examples of changed policy beliefs within the last 15 years? the dnc thinks
men can use whatever bathroom they choose, that late term abortion is a cause for celebration, that you cannot ever say anything positive about trump
no matter what he does, and that we should tear down every building in the nation and rebuild
with green energy.

do you think it’s impossible to oppose gay marriage, and still
be a decent guy?

i actually think the gop should
flip on gay marriage. but i know a huge number of very decent people
who oppose gay marriage, despite what a bigoted, activist actress happens to believe. Mother theresa wasn’t a decent person?
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You post more suggestive conspiracy laden comments and video than anyone here peddling your views as if they are based on facts....

This "more" meme is constantly used by some on this forum as deflection. Can you factually back up this "more"? And what is the significance of this "more"? Is it a conceptual meme that paints something as a negative? Is it some sort of conspiracy against the "less"? And can you verify (examples, etc.) of my suggesting some conspiracy?

and call others closed minded and bigoted...

I call out bigotry when I see it. Don't you? Do you have some privilege not allowed to me? Have I called out bigotry without pointing out how it is so?

for calling BS ... and the list of those you support are as fringe as it gets

You have not disproved any of my "BS." You just say, without proof, that it is BS. And "fringe," like "extremist," is another meme meant to disparage. Being a minority, even an extreme one, is not being wrong or bad. In this day of collectivist politics, the so called "fringe" has much good to offer.

Seems you’re standard of measuring infiltration of communist in the Democratic Party is in par with How Trump concludes his immigrant invasion and declared National emergency
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What standard of measurement are you referring to? The video listed names of Communists who are actively supporting the Democrat Party. And in what way they are doing it. Can you show how none of that is true?

the gop hasn’t moved much.
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That says it all :bs:

What standard of measurement are you referring to? The video listed names of Communists who are actively supporting the Democrat Party. And in what way they are doing it. Can you show how none of that is true?

and in your world that's a take over and infiltration of the democratic party ... as suggested in your video

and in your world that's a take over and infiltration of the democratic party ... as suggested in your video


So, rather than prove the content of the video to be wrong, you attempt to change my "world" by sticking words in it that were not expressed. "Take over" was your attempt to transform my "world."

Please try to stick to the subject rather than trying to change it. That would be an actual conversation, from which an actual transfer of knowledge and the true change of a "world" can occur.

The video did not "suggest" a whole lot other than the irony of Democrats trying to pin collusion with Russia on Trump when Dems are in bed with Communists. That was the minimal "suggestion" part. The bulk of the video was the naming of several Communists who are and were helping to get Dems elected.

If that's OK with you, of no particular consequence, then, to be fair, I would suppose that it's OK with you that so called right wing extremists are associated with Republicans. If you won't complain about one, why would you complain about the other?

So, rather than prove the content of the video to be wrong, you attempt to change my "world" by sticking words in it that were not expressed. "Take over" was your attempt to transform my "world."

Please try to stick to the subject rather than trying to change it. That would be an actual conversation, from which an actual transfer of knowledge and the true change of a "world" can occur.

The video did not "suggest" a whole lot other than the irony of Democrats trying to pin collusion with Russia on Trump when Dems are in bed with Communists. That was the minimal "suggestion" part. The bulk of the video was the naming of several Communists who are and were helping to get Dems elected.

If that's OK with you, of no particular consequence, then, to be fair, I would suppose that it's OK with you that so called right wing extremists are associated with Republicans. If you won't complain about one, why would you complain about the other?


infiltration a method of attack in which small bodies of soldiers or individual soldiers penetrate the enemy's line at weak or unguarded points in order to assemble behind the enemy position and attack it from the rear, harass enemy rear-area installations, etc.

so are they attacking the democrats or helping them?? because your clip uses the word infiltration I am confused

That says it all :bs:

on what specific policies, had the GOP changed course? What major changes have they undergone?

sanctity of life
individual responsibility
small federal government
individual liberty
strong national defense
charity for those in need
power of the free market to lift people out of poverty
fiscal responsibility ( the debt is making that a weaker and weaker claim)

there are jerks in the gop, liars, and hypocrites. but that’s still the policy platform.

look at bill clinton. they’d hate his policies today. kicking deadbeats off welfare, and telling them
to go back to work? slashing taxes on capital gains? balancing the budget? who
among democrats is calling for a return to these things?
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infiltration a method of attack in which small bodies of soldiers or individual soldiers penetrate the enemy's line at weak or unguarded points in order to assemble behind the enemy position and attack it from the rear, harass enemy rear-area installations, etc.

so are they attacking the democrats or helping them?? because your clip uses the word infiltration I am confused

Yes you're confused. You quite often are. In this case, maybe it's more a matter of not fully acclimating to civilian life. You have been out of the military for some time, I assume. You might want to check out some civilian type definitions:

infiltrate (Cambridge dictionary):
verb [ I + adv/prep, T ] uk ​ /ˈɪn.fɪl.treɪt/ us ​ /ˈɪn.fɪl.treɪt/
​
"to secretly become part of a group in order to get information or to influence the way that group thinks or behaves."

​or

"to move slowly into a substance, place, system, or organization."

Actually, as for attacking the Democrats or helping them goes, it is a bit of each. CPUSA doesn't want to "take over" the Democrat Party. It wants to use it. And it wants to influence it. So it wants to "help" it win elections in order to have a viable political outlet to spread its agenda. It's like a more intelligent parasite which temporarily boosts its host in order to nourish itself on the stable healthy body until it is matured enough to thrive on its own. It can then discard its host and totally devour it and anything else that stands in its way. Eventually, the hope is the destruction of both the Democrats and Repbulicans, as well as any individualist, classically liberal, freedom loving, parties, notions or movements.

The CPUSA does not love the Democrats, whom it considers too corrupted by corporate money, nor wishes to become Democrats. It simply finds enough similarities, fellow travelers, and leftist trending politics in it and in the intellectual academic and media useful idiots that support it, to suit its purpose. The Republicans and libertarians have nothing to offer it, only total opposition.

The leftist trend of the Democrat Party has been spurred by the Marxist fellow traveler academics (most academicians teaching in the liberal arts) and by the journalists who have been educated by those professors. This has been going on for decades and is now bearing more and more socialist fruit. The total transformation of the Democrat Party into a purely socialist one is the long term aim of the of the Commies. Then, a fully Communist (devoid of errors of Stalinism or Maoism) egalitarian state, which is also devoid of capitalism, will be possible.

More and more Americans, especially the younger generations coming out of Marxist academe, are finding that idea attractive. The infiltration seems to be working.

Yes you're confused. You quite often are. In this case, maybe it's more a matter of not fully acclimating to civilian life. You have been out of the military for some time, I assume. You might want to check out some civilian type definitions:

infiltrate (Cambridge dictionary):
verb [ I + adv/prep, T ] uk ​ /ˈɪn.fɪl.treɪt/ us ​ /ˈɪn.fɪl.treɪt/
​
"to secretly become part of a group in order to get information or to influence the way that group thinks or behaves."

​or

"to move slowly into a substance, place, system, or organization."

Actually, as for attacking the Democrats or helping them goes, it is a bit of each. CPUSA doesn't want to "take over" the Democrat Party. It wants to use it. And it wants to influence it. So it wants to "help" it win elections in order to have a viable political outlet to spread its agenda. It's like a more intelligent parasite which temporarily boosts its host in order to nourish itself on the stable healthy body until it is matured enough to thrive on its own. It can then discard its host and totally devour it and anything else that stands in its way. Eventually, the hope is the destruction of both the Democrats and Repbulicans, as well as any individualist, classically liberal, freedom loving, parties, notions or movements.

The CPUSA does not love the Democrats, whom it considers too corrupted by corporate money, nor wishes to become Democrats. It simply finds enough similarities, fellow travelers, and leftist trending politics in it and in the intellectual academic and media useful idiots that support it, to suit its purpose. The Republicans and libertarians have nothing to offer it, only total opposition.

The leftist trend of the Democrat Party has been spurred by the Marxist fellow traveler academics (most academicians teaching in the liberal arts) and by the journalists who have been educated by those professors. This has been going on for decades and is now bearing more and more socialist fruit. The total transformation of the Democrat Party into a purely socialist one is the long term aim of the of the Commies. Then, a fully Communist (devoid of errors of Stalinism or Maoism) egalitarian state, which is also devoid of capitalism, will be possible.

More and more Americans, especially the younger generations coming out of Marxist academe, are finding that idea attractive. The infiltration seems to be working.


Marxist academe you have such an active imagination https://www.econlib.org/archives/2015/03/the_prevalence_1.html


So secret your presenter knows everyones Names. as I have said its just another spoon feed story for like minded people using Classic Conservatives Buzz words ... Communist she even used comrade a few times ..

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Can you please provide a few examples of significant American ideals that Trump is destroying?

He must be doing it very, very slowly, because I don't see it. He has overstepped a few times and the courts have responded as they should, and kept him in check. Same thing happened with Obama. That's exactly how it's supposed to work.

The Constitution has not been changed, the courts are still there keeping him in check, the press is still offering coverage of Trump that's 98% negative everywhere but Fox, Jim Acosta still gets called on at press conferences despite arguing with Trump about everything instead of reporting like he' supposed to, and there are multiple investigations into "collusion".

What is Trump dismantling? Other than high black unemployment, that is? Has he declared himself a dictator for life and I missed that announcement?

If Capitalism is perfect and Socialism is deeply flawed, and therefor all means of production, assets, etc were owned by people and not the government, what incentive would private prisons have to reduce recidivism or even release people?
A person on the street is worth nothing to them, but everyone incarcerated is valuable.
I know I just confused Jim, but that is an example of capitalism that is currently occurring and I think it should bother us.
We live in a socialist democracy/republic (Madison and Marshall argued about democracy/republic hundreds of years ago, nobody won) and here are some examples of what that has gained us:
Public Libraries
Public Schools
Roads
Municipal sewer and water systems
Armed forces
Police departments
Public hospitals
Veterans Administration
Social Security
Medicaid
Public transportation
Public anything
Pretty horrible scary stuff, isn't it?
We have been doing it in this country since 1802 when the Corp of Engineers was permanently established and started mapping, building lighthouses and roads.
Trying to scare people with trigger words is typical of the current Trumplican Party.
I think there is far greater chance of this government becoming totalitarian than communist, Trump certainly has great appreciation for all the totalitarians he meets and believes them more than his fellow Americans.
Putin on interference, the Saudis on Kashoggi, Kim Jong Un on Warmbier.

You forgot the Fire Department, we are Commies too!:hihi:

Yes you're confused. You quite often are. In this case, maybe it's more a matter of not fully acclimating to civilian life. You have been out of the military for some time, I assume. You might want to check out some civilian type definitions:

infiltrate (Cambridge dictionary):
verb [ I + adv/prep, T ] uk ​ /ˈɪn.fɪl.treɪt/ us ​ /ˈɪn.fɪl.treɪt/
​
"to secretly become part of a group in order to get information or to influence the way that group thinks or behaves."

​or

"to move slowly into a substance, place, system, or organization."

Actually, as for attacking the Democrats or helping them goes, it is a bit of each. CPUSA doesn't want to "take over" the Democrat Party. It wants to use it. And it wants to influence it. So it wants to "help" it win elections in order to have a viable political outlet to spread its agenda. It's like a more intelligent parasite which temporarily boosts its host in order to nourish itself on the stable healthy body until it is matured enough to thrive on its own. It can then discard its host and totally devour it and anything else that stands in its way. Eventually, the hope is the destruction of both the Democrats and Repbulicans, as well as any individualist, classically liberal, freedom loving, parties, notions or movements.

The CPUSA does not love the Democrats, whom it considers too corrupted by corporate money, nor wishes to become Democrats. It simply finds enough similarities, fellow travelers, and leftist trending politics in it and in the intellectual academic and media useful idiots that support it, to suit its purpose. The Republicans and libertarians have nothing to offer it, only total opposition.

The leftist trend of the Democrat Party has been spurred by the Marxist fellow traveler academics (most academicians teaching in the liberal arts) and by the journalists who have been educated by those professors. This has been going on for decades and is now bearing more and more socialist fruit. The total transformation of the Democrat Party into a purely socialist one is the long term aim of the of the Commies. Then, a fully Communist (devoid of errors of Stalinism or Maoism) egalitarian state, which is also devoid of capitalism, will be possible.

More and more Americans, especially the younger generations coming out of Marxist academe, are finding that idea attractive. The infiltration seems to be working.

This is like McCarthy reincarnated, when do the hearings start?

This is like McCarthy reincarnated, when do the hearings start?

Many of them want 70% marginal tax rates on the wealthy, they want the loans they voluntarily agreed to, to be wiped out, and they want free everything. And many want government healthcare, with no ability to purchase healthcare in the private sector. And many want the government to order that every building/home/office in the country be retrofitted with green technology. And the kids on campus, are demonstrating less and less ability to tolerate dissenting opinions - ask conservatives who try to speak there. That doesn't all add up to heavy socialism?

No one is saying to bring back the McCarthy hearings. But let's show them how terrible those ideas might be.

I grew up in West Haven, just a few houses up from the fire house on Benham Hill Rd. I used to spend a lot of time in that fire station, my friend's dad was a fireman there.

This is like McCarthy reincarnated, when do the hearings start?

Hearings started before McCarthy. The House Un-American activities committee was already having hearings on Communist infiltration of the administration before McCarthy said anything. McCarthy wasn't necessarily trying to start a hearing in the Senate. He didn't want to expose the names of Communists on his list publicly because some of them may have been erroneously included. He was bringing attention to the matter to the Senate in order that the those correctly identified would be removed. The Democrat Senators forced a hearing in order to discredit McCarthy. They assumed they could show that McCarthy was unjustly accusing those on his list. They managed to smear him with sneaky tactics including an outright fabrication, and made the whole thing go away. Eventually, McCarthy was basically proven to be right. But the situation was even worse than McCarthy knew.

The Venona Project, a U.S. Army counter intelligence program, uncovered many more names. The release of some KGB files corroborated most of the Venona material. And the FBI had been discovering the Commie infiltration all along. It had even alerted the administration. But Russia was an ally during the war, so nothing was done about it. That was a big mistake.

Some of the most influential soviet agents in the administration including the closest advisors to FDR worked to put in effect policies that favored Communist expansion. Advice FDR received by them influenced his decisions to back Stalin's desires in the Yalta conference which resulted in the Soviet takeover of Eastern Europe and East Germany. Soviets in the administration convinced it to abandon Chiang Kai-Shek in his war against Mao who he was defeating with the aid of American military supplies. In the meantime, the Soviets were arming Mao's forces. So the tide turned. Consequently, China and much of East and South Asia (eventually resulting in a Communist North Korea), as well as Eastern Europe, all fell into the hands of the Soviets.

As well, the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was in a way orchestrated by Soviet agents in the FDR administration. Japan was a severe threat to Russia, as had been demonstrated by its defeat in the earlier Russo Japanese war. Having to fight a war on two fronts, Hitler in the West and Japan in the East, would have been difficult, a major stretch on Russian resources. Japan tried to make a pact with the U.S. in order to stave off what was a near certain entry of America into the war against Hitler. Japan and Germany were allies, which would pit the U.S. against Japan, stretching Japanese resources beyond its ability to attack Russia while fighting the Americans. Harry Dexter White, a top Treasury Dept, official and also a Soviet agent, convinced FDR that Japan could not be trusted, and helped create the ten point ultimatum adopted by the administration that basically was a casus belli. Drawing the U.S into war with Japan freed the Soviets of having to fight that war.

We don't need congressional hearings. Just an honest and open discussion about the political direction of our country.

Many of them want 70% marginal tax rates on the wealthy, they want the loans they voluntarily agreed to, to be wiped out, and they want free everything. And many want government healthcare, with no ability to purchase healthcare in the private sector. And many want the government to order that every building/home/office in the country be retrofitted with green technology. And the kids on campus, are demonstrating less and less ability to tolerate dissenting opinions - ask conservatives who try to speak there. That doesn't all add up to heavy socialism?

No one is saying to bring back the McCarthy hearings. But let's show them how terrible those ideas might be.

I grew up in West Haven, just a few houses up from the fire house on Benham Hill Rd. I used to spend a lot of time in that fire station, my friend's dad was a fireman there.
I was the Chief of West Shore, left there 5 years ago, spent many a night on that Rescue at Benham Hill. Dave Collins

Many of them want 70% marginal tax rates on the wealthy, they want the loans they voluntarily agreed to, to be wiped out, and they want free everything. And many want government healthcare, with no ability to purchase healthcare in the private sector. And many want the government to order that every building/home/office in the country be retrofitted with green technology. And the kids on campus, are demonstrating less and less ability to tolerate dissenting opinions - ask conservatives who try to speak there. That doesn't all add up to heavy socialism?
You forgot no cheeseburgers on the grill on the Fourth of July :rotf2:

I was the Chief of West Shore, left there 5 years ago, spent many a night on that Rescue at Benham Hill. Dave Collins

Small world, thanks for your service.

I lived right at the top of Benham Hill. Every time I wandered into that fire house, one of the guys would buy me a bottle of coke from the old fashioned machine, and ask me where the snappers were biting.

You forgot no cheeseburgers on the grill on the Fourth of July :rotf2:

From the young democrats? More like borscht on October 25, the anniversary of the Russian Revolution. Borscht, a few packs of smokes, and a few copies of Animal Farm and Chairman Mao's Little Red Book.

Small world, thanks for your service.

I lived right at the top of Benham Hill. Every time I wandered into that fire house, one of the guys would buy me a bottle of coke from the old fashioned machine, and ask me where the snappers were biting. Some names I know from up there, DeGrand, Neylan, Fontana, Frosolone, Russo, Limosani, Collucci, Capone, Mills, not enough Italians, lol.

Marxist academe you have such an active imagination https://www.econlib.org/archives/2015/03/the_prevalence_1.html

Original, hard core Marxism has lost most of its followers, so it is surprising that as many as in your survey did consider themselves Marxist. And many that do consider themselves as true Marxian Marxists would probably rather not admit it. As the term is used loosely today, it is more accurately called Cultural Marxism. That was a movement begun in earnest in the U.S during the mid 20th century by European Marxists (the so called Frankfurt School theorists) who were disillusioned with the outcome of original Marxism and Communism but still believed in much of the fundamental political and economic ideology. They still adhered to the Marxist critique of capitalism and notions of class struggle as well as other notions in the Marxist canon.

But they, in conjunction with Post Modern theorists, went beyond Marx and, created the basis for deconstructing traditional Western political, social, and economic understanding. They helped transform traditional "Conservative" academia into a platform for the Post Modern notion that our reality is a social construction rather than a physical and biological imperative. This all spawned into various constructs such as political correctness, social justice as it is expressed by leftists, economic justice, reproductive rights, multiculturalism, and our current identity politics and personal gender identity over biological identity, etc.

As for your survey, I specifically referred to the "liberal arts." Your survey includes the STEM curricula which shows very few, or zero, who identify as Marxists, which is not a surprise since the STEM curricula deals in scientific and physical reality, not in intellectual nonsense. But for the liberal arts, the social sciences and the humanities, it shows 17.6 of those in the social sciences and 5% of those in the humanities do. It also shows 24% radicals and 20.6% activist in the social sciences, and 19% radicals and 26.2 activist in humanities.

Your article also states "if 18% of social scientists believe in Marxism, that too is a big deal. Why? Because Marxism is nonsense. Furthermore, if 18% of a discipline fully embrace a body of nonsense, there is also probably a large bloc of nonsense sympathizers – people who won’t swallow the nonsense whole, but nevertheless see great value in it. Suppose, plausibly, that there is one fellow traveler for every true believer. That would bring the share of abject intellectual corruption to fully 35% – and 51% in sociology."

So, granting that Cutltural Marxism, not original Marxism, promulgates the mainstream intellectual liberal view, using your author's formula as well as that there are not many activist and radical professors from the "right" in our universities and colleges (it is conceded by just about all surveys that Professors in the liberal arts are overwhelmingly "liberal"), and that radicalism and activism in our universities is usually the M.O. of leftist, Post Modern, Cultural Marxists, we can extrapolate further.

The total ratio of those in the social sciences that are either radical (24%), activist (20.6%), or Marxist (17.6%) is 62%. The total ratio of those in the humanities, 19% radical, 26.2% activist, 5% Marxist adds up to 50.2%. Then if we use the authors suggestion that we should add fellow travelers (as well as those who didn't identify as either of those three categories, but, being predominantly "liberal" so leaning to Cultural Marxism), we can surmise that a large majority of Liberal arts professors are "Marxist" in the loose use of that term.

So secret your presenter knows everyones Names. as I have said its just another spoon feed story for like minded people using Classic Conservatives Buzz words ... Communist she even used comrade a few times ..

"Secret" applies to the rank and file Democrat voter and the general population. The Communist Party does not hide its connection to the Democrat Party, and the Democrat hierarchy is not unaware, but it is purposely not broadcast aloud to the public for obvious reasons. Were you aware of the connection? It is an "open secret."--"An open secret is a concept or idea that is 'officially' secret or restricted in knowledge, but in practice may be widely known; or it refers to something that is widely known to be true but which none of the people most intimately concerned are willing to categorically acknowledge in public."--Wikipedia.

True investigative journalists would not find this hard to "discover." Fake news journalists would choose to disregard or not report it.

Coming to an arena near you.

Some names I know from up there, DeGrand, Neylan, Fontana, Frosolone, Russo, Limosani, Collucci, Capone, Mills, not enough Italians, lol.

At least they had their token Irishman :hihi:
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Coming to an arena near you.

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That says it all :bs:




This is correct. Today's Republicans are closer to yesterday's moderate Dems (save horrible spending) than today's Dems are. I could (and did) support yesterday's Dems but there are no more.



You forgot the Fire Department, we are Commies too!:hihi:

No, if you are/were a former Chief then you know that FD politics fit NO conventional model ; )

I could (and did) support yesterday's Dems but there are no more.

Agreed, I voted for Clinton and think he was a good POTUS.

Right now, Nancy Pelosi is mainstream within that party, she is the anchor trying to keep the radicals from going too far left. Let that sink in.

This is correct. Today's Republicans are closer to yesterday's moderate Dems (save horrible spending) than today's Dems are. I could (and did) support yesterday's Dems but there are no more.
I don't understand this statement at all. Between the Tea Party and Trump the GOP isn't looking very moderate or very Republican.

I don't understand this statement at all. Between the Tea Party and Trump the GOP isn't looking very moderate or very Republican.

what policies do today’s GOP advocate for, which they haven’t traditionally advocated for? be specific? i can make a pretty specific list about what dems are advocating for today, thatbthey sure weren’t advocating for when Bill Clinton was president, many many things.

the tea party was a very powerful political force in the few years after its genesis, but it advocated for traditionally conservative ideals of fiscal responsibility.

trumps policies are pretty moderate. he’s not Pat Buchanan, not by a long shot. Planned Parenthood is still being funded fully. he advocated for prison reform.
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I don't understand this statement at all. Between the Tea Party and Trump the GOP isn't looking very moderate or very Republican.

Greed comes in many forms.
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This president is nothing more than a correction....checks and balances at work. A necessity to get the country back pointed in the right direction.
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I don't understand this statement at all. Between the Tea Party and Trump the GOP isn't looking very moderate or very Republican.

The R's somewhat sycophantic public support reminds me why I hate Politicians in general and makes me giggle when I whaddabout the rumpswabbery of Dem Pols with WJC and Obama. The Tea Party was overall a good movement where people wanted respect for the rule of law, cut spending, and not be 21T in debt. Does not sound to bed now, does it. Too bad the press and dems eviscerated it. But they support the Commies so all is good, no? And on balance they look far more moderate than the race to interseationalism that is the Dems.



Greed comes in many forms.
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Because you think I'm greedy??

This president is nothing more than a correction....checks and balances at work. A necessity to get the country back pointed in the right direction.
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Unsure how many more pendulum swings we can tolerate.

2015 article by John Bachtell, Chairman of the National Committee of the Communist Party USA on need to work through the Democrat Party to achieve his Party's goals (which are quite similar, if not identical, to Progressive's goals). As an aside, he considers a lot of things to be extremist that Spence does. Maybe Spence considers CPUSA to be "centrist" or "moderate"?:

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/a-radical-third-party-i-agree/

Too bad the press and dems eviscerated it. But they support the Commies so all is good, no? And on balance they look far more moderate than the race to interseationalism that is the Dems.



it's funny when whackos call others extremists......