in a story that has zero irony, Cortez’s mother said her property tax bill in NY was 10,000 a year, now is $600 a year in FL, and this reduces her stress.

You cannot make that up, I dare you to try.

She should make her next move to Veniezuela and really see some savings 🤔
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She should make her next move to Veniezuela and really see some savings 🤔
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and she’ll go to FL, and vote for liberals, no ability to make the connection between politics and why she moved across the country, which side works and which doesn’t.
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Wow she bought a an 85k she’s living it up .... I doubt her old house was a but more expensive.. not sure how what her mom does has any Bering on what the daughter says,,. But it’s clear conservatives have a new target
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Jim, quit reading the tabloids.
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Jim, quit reading the tabloids.
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so what did i say that’s not true?
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Wow she bought a an 85k she’s living it up .... I doubt her old house was a but more expensive.. not sure how what her mom does has any Bering on what the daughter says,,. But it’s clear conservatives have a new target
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funny that the mom of a socialist, flees a highbtax state for a low tax state. if cortez had an IQ anywhere near triple digits, that might be reason to reconsider the wisdom of advocating for Maoism.
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I’m planning on fleeing a high tax state for a low tax state when I retire. :hee:

This is kind of a non story
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I’m planning on fleeing a high tax state for a low tax state when I retire. :hee:

This is kind of a non story
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if you extolled the virtues of the benefits of a conservative state with low taxes, while your daughter was the most influential
socialist in the country advocating to make your new state ( as well as the rest of the country) look just like the state you fled, that would
be funny.
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It would make for an awkward Thanksgiving :hee:
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funny that the mom of a socialist, flees a highbtax state for a low tax state. if cortez had an IQ anywhere near triple digits, that might be reason to reconsider the wisdom of advocating for Maoism.
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Jim, her husband died of cancer leaving the family with a pile of medical bills, she couldn't pay her mortgage so she what she had to do.

And you think that's hilarious. Here's a good test, if you google on a story and the first 12 hits are all tabloids yet the major news outlets aren't covering it, it's probably not worth the time.

Jim, her husband died of cancer leaving the family with a pile of medical bills, she couldn't pay her mortgage so she what she had to.


Did what she had to do
Are #^&#^&#^&#^&ing kidding me ???
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Jim, her husband died of cancer leaving the family with a pile of medical bills, she couldn't pay her mortgage so she what she had to do.

And you think that's hilarious. Here's a good test, if you google on a story and the first 12 hits are all tabloids yet the major news outlets aren't covering it, it's probably not worth the time.

“what she had to do”.

so what good is
liberalism, if it put its leaders mother in a position where she “had to” move to a conservative state? how come she didn’t pick CT or IL, do you suppose?

Her mom said it’s “stress free” in FL because of the tax savings. Interesting. Not to you obviously because it renders your side hopeless and defenseless.

Spence, how can you endorse an ideology, of which people
who live in states which embrace that ideology, “ have to” flee those states because they can’t affird to live there?




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“what she had to do”.

so what good is
liberalism, if it put its leaders mother in a position where she “had to” move to a conservative state? how come she didn’t pick CT or IL, do you suppose?

Her mom said it’s “stress free” in FL because of the tax savings. Interesting. Not to you obviously because it renders your side hopeless and defenseless.

Spence, how can you endorse an ideology, of which people
who live in states which embrace that ideology, “ have to” flee those states because they can’t affird to live there?



#^&#^&#^&#^&ing Hypocrites, every one of them including their brain dead supporters who vote for them.



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spence admits that she had to flee
a liberal state for a conservative state, for cost of
living. i thought conservatives only cared about the 1%, yet she “had to “ flee a liberal state because of
liberal cost of living and
liberal taxes, and she “had to” settle in a conservative state because she could
only afford a conservative state.
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spence admits that she had to flee
a liberal state for a conservative state, for cost of
living. i thought conservatives only cared about the 1%, yet she “had to “ flee a liberal state because of
liberal cost of living and
liberal taxes, and she “had to” settle in a conservative state because she could
only afford a conservative state.
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Like I said, #^&#^&#^&#^&ing Hypocrites
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Like I said, #^&#^&#^&#^&ing Hypocrites
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i know, but it’s hilarious that he doesn’t see how thoroughly he destroyed liberalism ( more thoroughly than Foxnews has ever done), when he admitted she “had to” leave a liberal state and settle in a conservative state, because she wasn’t rich enough to live in a liberal state.

and it shows you what fanatics that spence and AOC are, impervious to empirical evidence, that they support liberalism, even after seeing and conceding, that liberalism forced her mother out of NY, and that in order to thrive and feel stress free, she “had to” move to a conservative, low tax state.

But conservatives only care about the rich, and tax cuts only help the wealthy! Right, Spence? Jeez you walked into that one.
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Jim and Ronnie your to funny some how you connect aoc moms actions to here daughter

But you are both unable or unwilling to use the same logic when it comes to Trump and all those around him going to jail and he was going to drain the swamp.. funny you don’t hold him to this standard

And agin 1 person moves to Fla for lower property Tax ... another valadition for Jim on the benefits of red state... yet you or Ronnie have not moved to theses conservative utopias Why is that? Are you hypocrites
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What's the saying...that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree?


Also, don't most people move to Florida to spend their final years?
(quaint way of saying that most elderly "snow birds" go to FL and never return...)

Jim and Ronnie your to funny some how you connect aoc moms actions to here daughter

But you are both unable or unwilling to use the same logic when it comes to Trump and all those around him going to jail and he was going to drain the swamp.. funny you don’t hold him to this standard

And agin 1 person moves to Fla for lower property Tax ... another valadition for Jim on the benefits of red state... yet you or Ronnie have not moved to theses conservative utopias Why is that? Are you hypocrites
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"some how you connect aoc moms actions to here daughter "

No I say the daughter is a moron because she can't make a connection between the pros/cons of liberal economics, and the fact that (even in Spence's words) her mother "had to" move from a liberal state to a conservative state, for economic reasons.

"But you are both unable or unwilling to use the same logic when it comes to Trump "

Are you illiterate? Read my posts on Trump. Boy are you dim if you think I'm a Trump apologist.

"another valadition for Jim on the benefits of red state"

Spence, not me, said she had to make the move for economic reasons.

WDMSO, what does it say to you, that she could afford to live in FL but not in NY?

"1 person moves to Fla for lower property Tax "

She's not the only one. She's the only one I know of, who gave birth to the current leader of the democratic party.

"yet you or Ronnie have not moved to theses conservative utopias Why is that? Are you hypocrites"

My parents rely on me too much, can't flee. Would love to.

Saying CT is expensive while living here, doesn't make me a hypocrite.

Saying CT is expensive while living here, doesn't make me a hypocrite.

That’s my point everyone moved or stays for different reasons

Her going or you staying Neither reason is a validation of your argument.. of a bigger motivation of the benefits of. Red states

Sins of the daughter as you see them and her mothers actions and views have no sway on your argument .. against aoc .... Why is she such a Threat to conservatives besides they have a history of attacking strong minded women .. apperences then they do about policy’s
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That’s my point everyone moved or stays for different reasons

Her going or you staying Neither reason is a validation of your argument.. of a bigger motivation of the benefits of. Red states
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but if meaningful numbers of
people move for economic reasons, what does that tell
you about liberalism? If spence said she “had to “ move for economic reasons, what does that tell you about liberal states and conservative states?

Spence and NY Gov
Cuomo have both admitted in the last week, that people are moving from NY to FL purely for economic reasons.

Liberal states are harder to live in, unless you are wealthy. that seems to be a reasonable , if not inescapable, conclusion.
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but if

Liberal states are harder to live in, unless you are wealthy. that seems to be a reasonable , if not inescapable, conclusion.
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add that to your dumbest statements list .. where do you get this stuff from? It would be funny but you actually think it true
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add that to your dumbest statements list .. where do you get this stuff from? It would be funny but you actually think it true
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Spence said she "had to" move. Gov Cuomo is horrified that NY taxes have incentivized so many people to leave. CT has also been creamed with disastrous impacts of people fleeing.

As of last year, the top 5 states in terms of people leaving were:

IL, CT, NJ, CA, MI


The top 5 inbound states were:
AZ, ID, NC, SC, TN

Now, what patterns do YOU see, among the political ideology of the states in those two groups? I know what I see, but you said my conclusion was stupid. So please share with me, the intelligent conclusion to draw...

If you have any data to suggest that on average, it's cheaper to live in liberal states than it is to live in conservative states, I'd love to see it.

WDMSO, do you deny that people are leaving liberal states and moving to conservative states, and that cost of living is a huge reason why?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-05/americans-are-ditching-these-five-states-record-numbers

i know, but it’s hilarious that he doesn’t see how thoroughly he destroyed liberalism ( more thoroughly than Foxnews has ever done), when he admitted she “had to” leave a liberal state and settle in a conservative state, because she wasn’t rich enough to live in a liberal state.

and it shows you what fanatics that spence and AOC are, impervious to empirical evidence, that they support liberalism, even after seeing and conceding, that liberalism forced her mother out of NY, and that in order to thrive and feel stress free, she “had to” move to a conservative, low tax state.

But conservatives only care about the rich, and tax cuts only help the wealthy! Right, Spence? Jeez you walked into that one.
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Jim, NYC is one of the most expensive cities to live in, not because of liberal policies but because 20 million people are competing for housing. She bought an 85k house in the middle of nowhere so her taxes are obviously going to go down significantly.

To extrapolate this into a conclusion on the failures of liberalism requires a stretch I didn't think you were even capable of. I hate to break it to you, but there is no irony.

Here Jim, some more deep analysis for you. I've correlated a map of light pollution and the 2016 election to PROVE UNCONDITIONALLY THAT LIBERALISM CAUSES LIGHT POLLUTION!!!!!

Jim, NYC is one of the most expensive cities to live in, not because of liberal policies but because 20 million people are competing for housing. She bought an 85k house in the middle of nowhere so her taxes are obviously going to go down significantly.

To extrapolate this into a conclusion on the failures of liberalism requires a stretch I didn't think you were even capable of. I hate to break it to you, but there is no irony.

"NYC is one of the most expensive cities to live in, not because of liberal policies but because 20 million people are competing for housing"

And if she claimed she moved because of real estate prices, you might have a shred of a point. She didn't, so you don't. She specifically mentioned taxes, not real estate prices.

"She bought an 85k house in the middle of nowhere so her taxes are obviously going to go down significantly"

Oh. So you're saying NY state doesn't have cheap houses upstate, "in the middle of nowhere", that she could have moved to? Why did she go all the way to FL? CT has plenty of condos in that price range, but the taxes are a whole lot higher than what she's enjoying in FL.

"To extrapolate this into a conclusion on the failures of liberalism "

I didn't extrapolate a thing. You said she "had to" move all the way from NY to FL, because of money. Your words, not my extrapolation. Governor Cuomo is currently making a very, very big deal about the ruinous impact of taxing people to the point where they leave.

Here Jim, some more deep analysis for you. I've correlated a map of light pollution and the 2016 election to PROVE UNCONDITIONALLY THAT LIBERALISM CAUSES LIGHT POLLUTION!!!!!

You claimed she left because of money. Gov Cuomo is making that same exact point, at least as it relates to the wealthy. Is he as stupid as I am?

CT and IL are in a race to see which state is going to be the first to file for insolvency. The political ideology is independent of the financial health of those states? Interesting.

And if she claimed she moved because of real estate prices, you might have a shred of a point. She didn't, so you don't. She specifically mentioned taxes, not real estate prices.
She never claimed she "moved because of taxes," she made a remark that her lower taxes were less of a burden. You'd be duped by the tabloids.

Oh. So you're saying NY state doesn't have cheap houses upstate, "in the middle of nowhere", that she could have moved to? Why did she go all the way to FL? CT has plenty of condos in that price range, but the taxes are a whole lot higher than what she's enjoying in FL.
Maybe she had friends there, maybe she was sick of the winters...you're just making stuff up now.

I didn't extrapolate a thing. You said she "had to" move all the way from NY to FL, because of money. Your words, not my extrapolation. Governor Cuomo is currently making a very, very big deal about the ruinous impact of taxing people to the point where they leave.
I never said she moved to FL because of taxes, she just couldn't afford to live in NYC after her husband's death broke them.

Look at map of Canada Jim, look at what a public health system has done to the light pollution. It's like daylight at midnight.

She never claimed she "moved because of taxes," she made a remark that her lower taxes were less of a burden. You'd be duped by the tabloids.


Maybe she had friends there, maybe she was sick of the winters...you're just making stuff up now.


I never said she moved to FL because of taxes, she just couldn't afford to live in NYC after her husband's death broke them.

Look at map of Canada Jim, look at what a public health system has done to the light pollution. It's like daylight at midnight.

"She never claimed she "moved because of taxes," she made a remark that her lower taxes were less of a burden. You'd be duped by the tabloids."

Are you a tabloid? You said she did what she had to do? She said she saved $10,000 in property taxes, and that "it's stress free here."

"Maybe she had friends there, maybe she was sick of the winters...you're just making stuff up now. "

Maybe. Or maybe she moved for the reason she said she moved, and for the reason that Gov Cuomo says that disastrous numbers of wealthy are leaving.

I am relying on what she said, you are speculating it was because of weather, yet I am the one making stuff up. You are getting desperate, Spence.

I see you chose to ignore that Gov Cuomo agrees with me that taxes are hurting tax revenue collected.

Spence, let's get to the heart of this...do you think states like NY and CT are losing an unhealthy number of taxpayers, because there's a big tax incentive to go to low-tax states? Yes or no?

Gov Cuomo says the answer is an unequivocal yes. Is he wrong? Being duped by tabloids? Making stuff up?

Of course, a lot of this stems from being broke from medical expenses.... sort of goes with a liberal argument for single payer... just saying....
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Of course, a lot of this stems from being broke from medical expenses.... sort of goes with a liberal argument for single payer... just saying....
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if she was broke from medical
expenses, then can’t i make a case that conservative FL is
friendlier to those suffering economic hardship, than liberal NY? Liberal CT is a lot closer to NY than FL is.
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if she was broke from medical
expenses, then can’t i make a case that conservative FL is
friendlier to those suffering economic hardship, than liberal NY? Liberal CT is a lot closer to NY than FL is.
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Maybe, but hen again we could revisit federal fund distribution to low tax states...

Of course, she might not have moved in the first place if she wasn’t broke from medical costs....
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I will add, I have no idea why she moved, if she is broke. I haven’t followed a bit of this story nor do I really care much about AOC. I was playing devils advocate with the threads posted here....
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Of course, a lot of this stems from being broke from medical expenses.... sort of goes with a liberal argument for single payer... just saying....
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You have a pretty good point here.
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This thread is funny. All these states that are “conservative” and are driving people to move there will all have to significantly change their tune when they’re running at a multi billion $ deficit because they have no revenue stream to satisfy the numbers they’re attracting. I see it as a giant pendulum swing. Taxes follow the people. The higher the demand, the higher the price.
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You have a pretty good point here.
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Doesn’t happen often...
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This thread is funny. All these states that are “conservative” and are driving people to move there will all have to significantly change their tune when they’re running at a multi billion $ deficit because they have no revenue stream to satisfy the numbers they’re attracting. I see it as a giant pendulum swing. Taxes follow the people. The higher the demand, the higher the price.
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Or in the case of Florida they’re under water.
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I will add, I have no idea why she moved, if she is broke. I haven’t followed a bit of this story nor do I really care much about AOC. I was playing devils advocate with the threads posted here....
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Trouble maker
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This thread is funny. All these states that are “conservative” and are driving people to move there will all have to significantly change their tune when they’re running at a multi billion $ deficit because they have no revenue stream to satisfy the numbers they’re attracting. I see it as a giant pendulum swing. Taxes follow the people. The higher the demand, the higher the price.
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the state doesn’t need a giant revenue stream, because the folks, being conservative, don’t want the state doing any more than it has to. now at some point, these states may need to build
more roads and some infrastructure.
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the state doesn’t need a giant revenue stream, because the folks, being conservative, don’t want the state doing any more than it has to. now at some point, these states may need to build
more roads and some infrastructure.
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Liberals moving to conservative states are not becoming conservative most are retired and bringing their liberal values with them
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the state doesn’t need a giant revenue stream, because the folks, being conservative, don’t want the state doing any more than it has to. now at some point, these states may need to build
more roads and some infrastructure.
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Let me know how that goes...
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Liberals moving to conservative states are not becoming conservative most are retired and bringing their liberal values with them
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WDMSO, I know that, and that's what's ironic. When a liberal moves across the country from NY for FL because they can no longer afford to live in NY but can easily afford to live in FL, they don't usually convert to conservative.

But why don't they?

They uprooted themselves because they can't afford liberalism, and they go to a conservative state where they can easily afford to live.

How is that not proof, that conservatism is more likely to work for people who aren't wealthy?

If I had to flee liberalism for economic reasons, how stupid would I have to be, to still claim that liberalism works? It's hilarious!

WDMSO, I know that, and that's what's ironic. When a liberal moves across the country from NY for FL because they can no longer afford to live in NY but can easily afford to live in FL, they don't usually convert to conservative.

But why don't they?

They uprooted themselves because they can't afford liberalism, and they go to a conservative state where they can easily afford to live.

How is that not proof, that conservatism is more likely to work for people who aren't wealthy?

If I had to flee liberalism for economic reasons, how stupid would I have to be, to still claim that liberalism works? It's hilarious!


Your out if touch liberals are leaving after making money and having worked jobs that have provide the means to do so. And the more moderate weather.

No one is fleeing liberal states as you suggest for jobs or housing or better schools or just for less taxes .. that’s your fantasy

Have people moved for those reasons I am sure some have ... it both directions

The Sales Tax Rate for Tennessee is 9.5%. The US average is 7.3%.
- The Income Tax Rate for Tennessee is 0.0%. The Average is 4.6

No ones moving to save 3%
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Just saw this on the AOC bandwagon over at fox

AOC is a product of the transformation of the American education system from a place of learning to a place of political indoctrination

Talk about hand feeding the base
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Just saw this on the AOC bandwagon over at fox

AOC is a product of the transformation of the American education system from a place of learning to a place of political indoctrination

Talk about hand feeding the base
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The Great wdmso has spoken! It's like your the Wizard of Oz.

Your out if touch liberals are leaving after making money and having worked jobs that have provide the means to do so. And the more moderate weather.

No one is fleeing liberal states as you suggest for jobs or housing or better schools or just for less taxes .. that’s your fantasy

Have people moved for those reasons I am sure some have ... it both directions

The Sales Tax Rate for Tennessee is 9.5%. The US average is 7.3%.
- The Income Tax Rate for Tennessee is 0.0%. The Average is 4.6

No ones moving to save 3%
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I'm not talking about wealthy liberals who want to retire and play golf every day. I'm talking about people who literally can't afford to live in liberal states, who move to conservative states which are cheaper, and they can't connect the dots.

Is that really going too fast for you? You don't seem to have any idea what I find funny. Presumably, you're a person who can never, ever admit that liberalism has flaws.

"The Sales Tax Rate for Tennessee is 9.5%. The US average is 7.3%.
- The Income Tax Rate for Tennessee is 0.0%. The Average is 4.6

No ones moving to save 3%"

No one spends 100% of their income, on things that are subject to state sales tax either. So the savings is way, way more than 3%. Also, you can't compare TN to "average" tax rates, compare it to "average liberal" tax rates, you'll see the savings. People aren't moving from TX to TN for taxes. But they are moving from CT to TN for taxes.

I did the math to help my brother figure out what he'd save by moving his family and business from CT to the suburbs of Nashville. He saved a fortune, and he'd tell you the quality of life is better.

Just saw this on the AOC bandwagon over at fox

AOC is a product of the transformation of the American education system from a place of learning to a place of political indoctrination

Talk about hand feeding the base
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I don't have any idea what she's the product of (I'd say liberal indoctrination posing as education is a great guess). I do know, that she said capitalism is "irredeemable".

WDMSO, where would the state get the money to pay you, if it weren't for "capitalism"? Do you understand, that not everyone can be a public servant? Not everyone can take public tax money, SOME people have to be out there, generating wealth to be taxed for you. And she says it's "irredeemable"? I'll be the very first person to say that capitalism is flawed, but it's not sinister for Gods sake. AOC is a complete, total moron, she's the living embodiment of the word "clueless".

The Great wdmso has spoken! It's like your the Wizard of Oz.

I'm thinking more scarecrow

I don't have any idea what she's the product of (I'd say liberal indoctrination posing as education is a great guess). I do know, that she said capitalism is "irredeemable".

WDMSO, where would the state get the money to pay you, if it weren't for "capitalism"? Do you understand, that not everyone can be a public servant? Not everyone can take public tax money, SOME people have to be out there, generating wealth to be taxed for you. And she says it's "irredeemable"? I'll be the very first person to say that capitalism is flawed, but it's not sinister for Gods sake. AOC is a complete, total moron, she's the living embodiment of the word "clueless".

Ummm...She's......like....so smukking fart...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-TL6COp3h8&feature=youtu.be

Ummm...She's......like....so smukking fart...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-TL6COp3h8&feature=youtu.be

she is something. accused trump of funding the wall but “zero” for opioids”. Except for the $6 billion that was recently allocated for fighting opioids.

so according to liberal math:

6,000,000,000 < 0.
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:hee:

:hee:

Actually that’s an old Russian joke.
Probably Trump got from Putin and had a minion write the meme
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..

I don't have any idea what she's the product of (I'd say liberal indoctrination posing as education is a great guess). I do know, that she said capitalism is "irredeemable".

WDMSO, where would the state get the money to pay you, if it weren't for "capitalism"? Do you understand, that not everyone can be a public servant? Not everyone can take public tax money, SOME people have to be out there, generating wealth to be taxed for you. And she says it's "irredeemable"? I'll be the very first person to say that capitalism is flawed, but it's not sinister for Gods sake. AOC is a complete, total moron, she's the living embodiment of the word "clueless".

You and fox and republicans are running around like chicken little yelling the sky is falling. Because of 1 new no power lawmaker. Making claims that don’t exist... the end of captlalism
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The Great wdmso has spoken! It's like your the Wizard of Oz.

It’s clear what the man behind the curtain at fox is selling
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:hee:
Can you fact check before you post. And if you don’t care, just don’t post.
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You and fox and republicans are running around like chicken little yelling the sky is falling. Because of 1 new no power lawmaker. Making claims that don’t exist... the end of captlalism
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the gop
is winning, the sky’s not falling. can you answer my questions please?

who is making
false
claims? you. i never said the
end of capitalism.. i said that cortez claimed that capitalism
is irredeemable, and she did. are you denying she said that?
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Can you fact check before you post. And if you don’t care, just don’t post.
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You mean she didn't really say that??? Next you're going to tell me that the Vulcans aren't really in danger.
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Spence, you work in Finance, and the most influential democrat in DC said that capitalism is irredeemable. Do you have no comment?

Here’s a hint. When Trump says stupid things, you think that means he’s a stupid person. When Trump says awful things, you think that means Trump is an awful person.

But let me guess! In this case, she just misspoke, and/or was taken out of context? But nothing she says, says anything about the kind of person she is?
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the gop
is winning, the sky’s not falling. can you answer my questions please?

who is making
false
claims? you. i never said the
end of capitalism.. i said that cortez claimed that capitalism
is irredeemable, and she did. are you denying she said that?
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Your the one calling her the new face of the Democratic Party
You have implied much
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It’s clear what the man behind the curtain at fox is selling
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Flamingos are pink.

Spence, you work in Finance, and the most influential democrat in DC said that capitalism is irredeemable. Do you have no comment?

Here’s a hint. When Trump says stupid things, you think that means he’s a stupid person. When Trump says awful things, you think that means Trump is an awful person.

But let me guess! In this case, she just misspoke, and/or was taken out of context? But nothing she says, says anything about the kind of person she is?
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Capitalism being irredeemable and bragging about sexually assaulting other human beings as a hobby are two different categories of things people say. One makes you a horrible person, the other makes you an misinformed idiot.

Lets be clear, she isn’t exactly the democratic party’s knight in shining armor, no matter what Fox News is trying to tell you. Representatives from both parties show up, say stupid stuff while their star is burning bright and flame out all the time, she’s no different if she just wants to keep saying stupid stuff. That’s why she’s one of hundreds like her who are asked to collectively make laws for our country... so her being a misinformed idiot just creates noise.
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strange obsessions with fox....I believe there are many more leftist viewers of fox than righties...it fuels leftist anger....I've become a big fan of NPR..it's like when SNL used to be funny

I still love her....AOC2020

Can you fact check before you post. And if you don’t care, just don’t post.
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dictator struggling to keep power :jester:

dictator struggling to keep power :jester:

his transformation to SJW is almost complete, they've removed his sense of humor and the ability to understand sarcasm.

Probably looks at the fact the 3 Stooges had to boil a boot for food as a sign that social programs in this country are woefully under funded.

Capitalism being irredeemable and bragging about sexually assaulting other human beings as a hobby are two different categories of things people say. One makes you a horrible person, the other makes you an misinformed idiot.

Lets be clear, she isn’t exactly the democratic party’s knight in shining armor, no matter what Fox News is trying to tell you. Representatives from both parties show up, say stupid stuff while their star is burning bright and flame out all the time, she’s no different if she just wants to keep saying stupid stuff. That’s why she’s one of hundreds like her who are asked to collectively make laws for our country... so her being a misinformed idiot just creates noise.
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she is without a doubt, the
most influential person in that party right now.

or maybe the leader of the party is the one who is currently the front runner for president, one Bernie Sanders, another committed socialist ( despite being wealthy with theee homes).

The Dems are doing everything they can, to get trump re elected. he may not get re elected, but they are making it more likely.

i didn’t say despising capitalism and bragging about abusing women are the same thing. but is one those things, nothing? Isnone meaningless? Spence will say yes.
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I kinda like Andrew Yang...he's proposing giving everyone a 1000 bucks a month...who wouldn't like that??? I will have 3 in college soon with the oldest already thinking med school so I'm signing on to the free college thing....I could use an extra thousand a month for all sorts of stuff, I could upgrade my Subaru for a TESLA and get all of those govt. rebates before they expire....I'm sick of paying for private health insurance that I never use, I'm happy to have the government pay for that and if I get an Obama phone I could have another 50 bucks a month in my pocket...becoming a democrat could easily swing my budget a couple thousand a month and these candidates are only getting started giving stuff away...hey...I work every day....how about a mandatory maximum 30 hour work week to protect me from myself and evil corporate bosses !!......I'm IN!!!

she is without a doubt, the
most influential person in that party right now.

or maybe the leader of the party is the one who is currently the front runner for president, one Bernie Sanders, another committed socialist ( despite being wealthy with theee homes).

The Dems are doing everything they can, to get trump re elected. he may not get re elected, but they are making it more likely.

i didn’t say despising capitalism and bragging about abusing women are the same thing. but is one those things, nothing? Isnone meaningless? Spence will say yes.
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For someone who constantly talks about the puppet strings of media bias, you’re s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g that Kool-Aid through a fire hose if you think she’s the most influential person in that party right now.
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For someone who constantly talks about the puppet strings of media bias, you’re s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g that Kool-Aid through a fire hose if you think she’s the most influential person in that party right now.
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When people like you or Spence tell me I'm an idiot, but never explain why, never offer a syllable about what specifically I'm wrong about, or what the correct answer is, it's hard to take you seriously.

It's an opinion that she's the most influential. I can't prove it. But she has, I believe, the largest social media following. And every democratic presidential contender jumped on the Green New Deal, which is about the stupidest thing anyone has ever written. Not ONE of them called it out for the nonsense we all know it is. No one is willing to tell her to shut up, listen, and learn.

I kinda like Andrew Yang...he's proposing giving everyone a 1000 bucks a month...who wouldn't like that??? I will have 3 in college soon with the oldest already thinking med school so I'm signing on to the free college thing....I could use an extra thousand a month for all sorts of stuff, I could upgrade my Subaru for a TESLA and get all of those govt. rebates before they expire....I'm sick of paying for private health insurance that I never use, I'm happy to have the government pay for that and if I get an Obama phone I could have another 50 bucks a month in my pocket...becoming a democrat could easily swing my budget a couple thousand a month and these candidates are only getting started giving stuff away...hey...I work every day....how about a mandatory maximum 30 hour work week to protect me from myself and evil corporate bosses !!......I'm IN!!!

My wife and I have determined that we could move to Bedford or Brookline NH, get the same exact house we have now, better public schools, and save about $900 a month, and that's WITHOUT tolls in CT, which are coming (every 6 miles on every highway is the latest proposal). So if I can bring myself to move somehow, AND I get my 1,000 a month from Andrew Yang, I'm looking good, I can get that 23 foot regulator.

you’re s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g that Kool-Aid through a fire hose if you think she’s the most influential person in that party right now.
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ummmm....name the most influential person in the democrat party right now :spin:

ummmm....name the most influential person in the democrat party right now :spin:

Her Green New Deal is a suicide pact. And I believe that every democrat running for POTUS, has igned onto it. They can't stand up to her, none of them.
None are willing to even disagree with her.

AOC is God's gift to Trump. She really is. A dingbat like that is the mouthpiece for her party, her generation, and quite possibly for space aliens.

Capitalism being irredeemable and bragging about sexually assaulting other human beings as a hobby are two different categories of things people say. One makes you a horrible person, the other makes you an misinformed idiot.


What is the category of things people say that refers to past actions of someone as a representation of who he is now where there is no evidence that he does those things anymore? And for what he has apologized? And for characterizing something that is allowed as being an assault? Is there no redemption for past sins?

If capitalism is irredeemable, are humans also not capable of redemption? If we did something "horrible" in the past are we then forever horrible?

If there is a category for implying someone being what he once was but no longer is, it seems to me that category could charitably be referred to as misrepresentation.


AOC is doing her stupidity NOW while in a position of political power that can influence the entire nation. Trump did what you phrase as "horrible" (really, in its context?) in the private past. Which, of the two, is meaningful to the people of this country today?

CheOC is #1 :)

When people like you or Spence tell me I'm an idiot, but never explain why, never offer a syllable about what specifically I'm wrong about, or what the correct answer is, it's hard to take you seriously.

It's an opinion that she's the most influential. I can't prove it. But she has, I believe, the largest social media following. And every democratic presidential contender jumped on the Green New Deal, which is about the stupidest thing anyone has ever written. Not ONE of them called it out for the nonsense we all know it is. No one is willing to tell her to shut up, listen, and learn.

Never called you an idiot
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Never called you an idiot
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Remember Jim is arguing against himself. There’s at least a half dozen inaccuracies even in just the post you quoted.
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the CEO of Wells Fargo made her look every bit as stupid as she is.

A bank which finances a project, is responsible for the actions of the operator of the project?

so if i use my house as a
meth lab, the bank that gave me my mortgage, is responsible. That what this dunce is saying.
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Remember Jim is arguing against himself. There’s at least a half dozen inaccuracies even in just the post you quoted.
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how about pointing them out, with corrections?
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What is the category of things people say that refers to past actions of someone as a representation of who he is now where there is no evidence that he does those things anymore? And for what he has apologized? And for characterizing something that is allowed as being an assault? Is there no redemption for past sins?

If capitalism is irredeemable, are humans also not capable of redemption? If we did something "horrible" in the past are we then forever horrible?

If there is a category for implying someone being what he once was but no longer is, it seems to me that category could charitably be referred to as misrepresentation.


AOC is doing her stupidity NOW while in a position of political power that can influence the entire nation. Trump did what you phrase as "horrible" (really, in its context?) in the private past. Which, of the two, is meaningful to the people of this country today?

Did Jim hand that hose over to you?
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Did Jim hand that hose over to you?
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lots of vague insults. not a lot of specifics as to where we’re wrong.
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lots of vague insults. not a lot of specifics as to where we’re wrong.
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He's got nothin.

He's got nothin.

defending her is a rough proposition.

Biden teasing at running. I think he’s their best shot.
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lots of vague insults. not a lot of specifics as to where we’re wrong.
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It’s not intended to be insulting, you both are just happily eating a narrative that’s being fed to you, which is intriguing given the typical tone you strike about the effect of that same tactic on groups of people you disagree with
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It’s not intended to be insulting, you both are just happily eating a narrative that’s being fed to you, which is intriguing given the typical tone you strike about the effect of that same tactic on groups of people you disagree with
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So if you can't dispute, you discredit, and not by facts but merely by spouting some unverified nor well thought out opinion. Your not exactly an original thinker. Could you point out to me the source that feeds me narratives? I'd like to acquaint myself with that genius.

clearly FOX as directed by the Koch brothers is feeding you two the narrative which you then cut and paste here like good little racists...:) Politics hasn't been this much fun in a long time and I think it's only going to get better

You guys are debating like she’s running for President in 2020 and while I believe her plan is financially and logistically impossible in the timeline proposed; I’d be shocked if the final democratic candidate adopts that radical a change. I would say that unless your an fool, or have your head in the sand, or just don’t give a damn about future generations; the reports (predictions) released in the last few years on climate change are going to cost far more them anyone can even quantify. AOC represents one extreme and Trump and his views and policy changes represent the other extreme; his head is in the sand when it comes to climate change.
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It’s not intended to be insulting, you both are just happily eating a narrative that’s being fed to you, which is intriguing given the typical tone you strike about the effect of that same tactic on groups of people you disagree with
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it’s very easy to say i’m thoughtlessly swallowing a narrative. how about telling me exactly where and why i’m wrong?

i explained why i say she’s the
most influential democrat. She has a massive following, and no matter how catastrophically stupid hernideas are, all the presidential contenders race to be the first to embrace them.

how is that wrong, exactly? you can’t make your point by saying i’m wrong. Show me i’m wrong.
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You guys are debating like she’s running for President in 2020 and while I believe her plan is financially and logistically impossible in the timeline proposed; I’d be shocked if the final democratic candidate adopts that radical a change. I would say that unless your an fool, or have your head in the sand, or just don’t give a damn about future generations; the reports (predictions) released in the last few years on climate change are going to cost far more them anyone can even quantify. AOC represents one extreme and Trump and his views and policy changes represent the other extreme; his head is in the sand when it comes to climate change.
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think about it this way.....the earth has been around for about 4.543 billion years and life has existed on it for about 3.8 billion years....of all of the life that has existed and been extinguished on this planet over the last 3.8 billion years(and that is an unimaginable number of lives I suppose) YOU have been fortunate to exist in human form(not a bug thankfully for you) for what is little more than a strobe's flash in time ... and also fortunate to enjoy a point in earth's history where you can sit at a keyboard communicating with people all over the planet without fear of being eaten, stepped on and squished, or otherwise killed which is the fate that most life on this planet has enjoyed over those many years..... you only have to walk to the fridge for a snack rather than rooting around the forest floor.......we are a species that ultimately only really care about ourselves individually no matter how much we claim to care about other things......it's just an attempt to convince ourselves that we...in our incredibly insignificant stay on this planet, are more important that we really are...why do people pack themselves into coffins and put a stone above the hole??? The want to remind everyone "I WAS HERE"....which is fine for a while but after a short time....nobody really cares that you were here and you are just taking up space in what could probably be a really nice golf course....we each are a speck of sand on a vast desert...no matter which direction you roll you will have no effect on that desert's eventual contour..but we can waste our time thinking that we matter or we can be grateful that we are not going to be eaten by a dinosaur today :huh:

****Disclaimer - This is only a joke, Spence****

****Disclaimer - This is only a joke, Spence****

I like the one that says..."Good News...my IQ test came back...it's negative!"

The snowflakes should be embracing her. She is a gift.
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The snowflakes should be embracing her. She is a gift.
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She's a gift to the right fox and jim and all the other impressionable Conservatives who claim they are free thinkers ... AOC gives them someone to attack rather then having to defend Trump daily

they talk about the green deal as if it's going to Trump's desk to be signed .. yet they are ambivalent when it comes to Trump's end around of congress his new Budget proposal or the deBt increase ..

yet focus on The 1st year Congresswomen.. Fox runs a min of a new AOC stories daily

https://www.foxnews.com/category/person/alexandria-ocasio-cortez

18 stories in 2 days

should have to drink every time a leftist says fox....:cheers:

should have to drink every time a leftist says fox....:cheers:

and Kill the glass when they say "Trump"

https://youtu.be/RGsQES_OdrQ


Pretty certain SNL is hard left leaning.
She’s talked about because she’s so stupid, it’s funny.
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She's a gift to the right fox and jim and all the other impressionable Conservatives who claim they are free thinkers ... AOC gives them someone to attack rather then having to defend Trump daily

they talk about the green deal as if it's going to Trump's desk to be signed .. yet they are ambivalent when it comes to Trump's end around of congress his new Budget proposal or the deBt increase ..

yet focus on The 1st year Congresswomen.. Fox runs a min of a new AOC stories daily

https://www.foxnews.com/category/person/alexandria-ocasio-cortez

18 stories in 2 days

"She's a gift to the right "

You finally got one right.

"AOC gives them someone to attack rather then having to defend Trump daily"

Who defends Trump here daily?

"they talk about the green deal as if it's going to Trump's desk to be signed "

All the democrats running, have endorsed it. So it's true and worth mentioning that if the democrats pick up the Senate and the White House, there's reason to believe we will be taken down that path, which would mean we'd be eating zoo animals in a month.

"yet they are ambivalent when it comes to Trump's end around of congress his new Budget proposal or the debt increase "

I have complained about the debt many, many times. It's a disaster, and some of it is Obama's doing as well. Di you care then? I am saying the same thing about the debt now, that I did when Obama was POTUS. I'll bet you didn't say chit about the debt from 09-16.

"yet focus on The 1st year Congresswomen"

She's the leader of that party at the moment. Make that wrong?

" Fox runs a min of a new AOC stories daily "

I'm not the one who blindly posts every negative story about politicians I don't like. I do it when I think it matters. If she is saying that banks are responsible for the operators of projects they finance, banks will stop lending money. Maybe you see nothing wrong with that, with your limited experience in, and knowledge of, the private sector.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ocasio-cortez-again-proves-shes-clueless-on-economics.amp

Oh look another AOC Story by the Trump news network

clearly FOX as directed by the Koch brothers is feeding you two the narrative which you then cut and paste here like good little racists...:) Politics hasn't been this much fun in a long time and I think it's only going to get better

This... it’s like poetry... I couldn’t have said it better myself (so I won’t, because I’m not an original thinker)
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The WaPo just issued her a three Pinocchio rating for her comments in Trump opioid funding. This is actually an improvement over her previous rating.
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The WaPo just issued her a three Pinocchio rating for her comments in Trump opioid funding. This is actually an improvement over her previous rating.
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dangles, give her a break, how could she be expected to know that:

6,000,000,000 > 0?

what is this, a witch hunt?
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This... it’s like poetry... I couldn’t have said it better myself (so I won’t, because I’m not an original thinker)
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Exactly. Scott handed that hose over to you.

Exactly. Scott handed that hose over to you.

I happen to like Kool aid
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I happen to like Kool aid
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Explains a lot. But still waiting for you to reveal the source that feeds me narratives. I don't watch Fox. Re this, you responded to post #74 in this thread. Who fed me that narrative?

The WaPo just issued her a three Pinocchio rating for her comments in Trump opioid funding. This is actually an improvement over her previous rating.
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And as if on cue ... now They believe the WaPo Pinocchio rating when its used against AOC

But when Trump gets a bad Pinocchio rating its Fake

Just funny to see conservatives and Trump supporters screaming anyone who criticizes Trump Suffer from Trump derangement syndrome

yet are unable to self diagnose

Please point out where I said the Trump ratings are fake. This is when you typically move the goalposts or claim You were taken out of context. When you have nothing to add that helps the narrative it helps to make up stories like this. Kind of like Hillary dodging sniper fire. More lies and exaggerating to convince yourself that you are making a difference.Looks like the shoe doesn’t fit as well when the WaPo picks on your new darling.These are fun times indeed.!!!
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Please point out where I said the Trump ratings are fake. This is when you typically move the goalposts or claim You were taken out of context. When you have nothing to add that helps the narrative it helps to make up stories like this. Kind of like Hillary dodging sniper fire. More lies and exaggerating to convince yourself that you are making a difference.Looks like the shoe doesn’t fit as well when the WaPo picks on your new darling.These are fun times indeed.!!!
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Whos making anything up if you ever paid attention to previous responses to Pinocchio rating... you would clearly understand my point ...

what lies and exaggerating have i used to convince myself that I am are making a difference???

I love being schooled by capt Drive by on the merits on what is a useful post and what is not ...

I am not defending AOC just pointing out how the right is obsessed with a nobody.. but yet they have appointed her the new power broker of the left .. to distract themselves from the #^&#^&#^&#^& show called the white house

I am not defending AOC just pointing out how the right is obsessed with a nobody.. but yet they have appointed her the new power broker of the left ..

For the third time, I say she's the leader of the party because of the way all the dems running for president, jumped on board her Green New Deal, instead of suggesting she get electric shock treatment.

How is that wrong? Who is more influential, and on what basis?

It's very easy to say I'm an idiot for saying she's the most influential. Try something harder, try explaining why I'm wrong?

.. to distract themselves from the #^&#^&#^&#^& show called the white house
To borrow a phrase you've liked to use, "the big picture"--you need to look at the big picture--the entire #^&#^&#^&#^& show of the federal bureaucracy, not just the White House. The reason it's so messed up, why the separation of powers, the key to making it all work, is no longer adhered to, lies at the feet of the creation of the administrative state in order to replace the constitutional one. We could discuss that . . . if you like. Doubt that you like.

The reason why the right is so excited is because she actually is the face of the Democratic Party. Not the most powerful by any stretch,but certainly the most prominent. I certainly don’t need the WaPo to make my point but I appreciate the assist. Some folks have no idea how much their lies and loyalties obscure their message,this is on display for anyone who is foolish enough to pay attention.
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Explains a lot. But still waiting for you to reveal the source that feeds me narratives. I don't watch Fox. Re this, you responded to post #74 in this thread. Who fed me that narrative?

I don’t know where you get your information from, but it’s gotta be from somewhere
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I don’t know where you get your information from, but it’s gotta be from somewhere
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My post, to which you were responding, was not "information" nor was it based on information "fed" to me. It was commentary on your expressed opinion that Trump is a horrible person because of something he said in the past with the implication that Trump's personal past makes him more of a problem than AOC's present stupidity while she's in a position of public power.

I said and asked in response to your categorization of Trump's and AOC's words "What is the category of things people say that refers to past actions of someone as a representation of who he is now where there is no evidence that he does those things anymore? And for what he has apologized? And for characterizing something that is allowed as being an assault? Is there no redemption for past sins?

"If capitalism is irredeemable, are humans also not capable of redemption? If we did something "horrible" in the past are we then forever horrible?

"If there is a category for implying someone being what he once was but no longer is, it seems to me that category could charitably be referred to as misrepresentation.

"AOC is doing her stupidity NOW while in a position of political power that can influence the entire nation. Trump did what you phrase as 'horrible' (really, in its context?) in the private past. Which, of the two, is meaningful to the people of this country today?"

That commentary was not fed to me by any source. And you did not answer my question.

My post, to which you were responding, was not "information" nor was it based on information "fed" to me. It was commentary on your expressed opinion that Trump is a horrible person because of something he said in the past with the implication that Trump's personal past makes him more of a problem than AOC's present stupidity while she's in a position of public power.

I said and asked in response to your categorization of Trump's and AOC's words "What is the category of things people say that refers to past actions of someone as a representation of who he is now where there is no evidence that he does those things anymore? And for what he has apologized? And for characterizing something that is allowed as being an assault? Is there no redemption for past sins?

"If capitalism is irredeemable, are humans also not capable of redemption? If we did something "horrible" in the past are we then forever horrible?

"If there is a category for implying someone being what he once was but no longer is, it seems to me that category could charitably be referred to as misrepresentation.

"AOC is doing her stupidity NOW while in a position of political power that can influence the entire nation. Trump did what you phrase as 'horrible' (really, in its context?) in the private past. Which, of the two, is meaningful to the people of this country today?"

That commentary was not fed to me by any source. And you did not answer my question.

The reference was to you equivocating sexually predatory behavior and being a stupid politician in your statement. One is much more forgivable after an apology than the other.

Walking up to women and grabbing them in between the legs because they’ll “let you when you’re famous” is not a permitted action... that’s assault brotha. I’ll start redeeming him when he’s held accountable for the actions he has admitted to.

That being said, I passed the hose to you because you felt compelled to create an equivalency between the congresswoman’s stupidity and the president’s past transgressions to create some kind of “he did”/“she did” cancellation which I believe to be a far too frequent move by both sides of this political mess when one side or the other makes a mistake. He assaulted many women, or at least has claimed to have. Congresswoman Cortez is quickly making herself out to be a politician who doesn’t really know how the world works. They can both be wrong, but one is much worse than the other, plain and simple.
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The reference was to you equivocating sexually predatory behavior and being a stupid politician in your statement. One is much more forgivable after an apology than the other.

I didn't equivocate. I wasn't evasive or ambiguous. I didn't even compare the quality of behavior. I pointed out that one was past and the other is present.

Further, Trump's behavior had no potential effect on the nation. Were you damaged by it? I didn't feel any repercussions. My income didn't go up or down. No financial depression was caused. No wars were started. No legislation to restrict personal freedom was passed. No stupid, wasteful, government plans were created. No destruction of the Constitution was caused. Trump was in no political position to cause any of those things.

Cortez is in a position to initiate or influence any of those things. Her actions are potentially far more consequential now and in the future than Trump's sexual behavior of the past can be.


Walking up to women and grabbing them in between the legs because they’ll “let you when you’re famous” is not a permitted action... that’s assault brotha. I’ll start redeeming him when he’s held accountable for the actions he has admitted to.

It's not up to you to, nor can you, redeem him. You can only redeem yourself. You do that by forswearing and forsaking your past discretions and henceforth leading a good life. He has apologized and seems to be "clean" of the "grabbing." And whether he's "held accountable" or not, what concerns me and is most meaningful to me is what he does NOW and in the future as President. As well, it is far more meaningful to me what Cortez does NOW and in the future as a member of Congress than whatever sexual behavior she had in the past. And I assume, maybe wrongly, that she has had sexual behavior, some of which many folks would disapprove of. But it didn't affect the course of human history very much, if at all.


That being said, I passed the hose to you because you felt compelled to create an equivalency between the congresswoman’s stupidity and the president’s past transgressions to create some kind of “he did”/“she did” cancellation which I believe to be a far too frequent move by both sides of this political mess when one side or the other makes a mistake. He assaulted many women, or at least has claimed to have. Congresswoman Cortez is quickly making herself out to be a politician who doesn’t really know how the world works. They can both be wrong, but one is much worse than the other, plain and simple.
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I did not create an equivalency. Quite the contrary, Cortez's actions as Congresswoman are potentially far more destructive to the nation than what you refer to as Trump's "assaults."

Trump didn't assume that he was "assaulting." From what he's said he presumed that the "grabbing" was welcomed and allowed. And if it was rebuffed, that was the end of it. As far as I know, there was no parade of casting couch "assaults" required for advancement in Trump's business.

The bar was set with Bill Clinton, and a host of Presidents before him. That cleansed me of caring anymore about what a President did sexually. Clinton was far worse than Trump, and he did it before and while being POTUS. We were told it was not our business. And that he was a really good President. And he was not to be removed from office, but to quit harassing him about it, and it was important to the country to let him do his job. Holding Trump to a higher standard holds no interest for me.

Apparently, for you, his past private personal sex is far more important than what Cortez can do in a powerful national political office. I asked you to clarify your position, and I guess you have.

I did not create an equivalency. Quite the contrary, Cortez's actions as Congresswoman are potentially far more destructive to the nation than what you refer to as Trump's "assaults."

Trump didn't assume that he was "assaulting." From what he's said he presumed that the "grabbing" was welcomed and allowed. And if it was rebuffed, that was the end of it. As far as I know, there was no parade of casting couch "assaults" required for advancement in Trump's business.

The bar was set with Bill Clinton, and a host of Presidents before him. That cleansed me of caring anymore about what a President did sexually. Clinton was far worse than Trump, and he did it before and while being POTUS. We were told it was not our business. And that he was a really good President. And he was not to be removed from office, but to quit harassing him about it and it was important to the country to let him do his job. Holding Trump to a higher standard holds no interest for me.

Apparently, for you, his past private personal sex is far more important than what Cortez can do in a powerful national political office. I asked you to clarify your position, and I guess you have.

Yes, I have.
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she is without a doubt, the
most influential person in that party right now.



Well, I don't remember that last time Time Magazine did an article on a junior rep after only being in office for 3 months. just saying

http://time.com/longform/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-profile/

Well, I don't remember that last time Time Magazine did an article on a junior rep after only being in office for 3 months. just saying

http://time.com/longform/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-profile/

did you see her tell the ceo of
Wels Fargo, that he’s responsible for everything done by anyone his bank gives money to? If wells fargo gives me a car loan, and i kill a pedestrian with the car, is wells fargo responsible? She thinks they are! That’s exactly how stupid she is. that’s not an exaggeration, and she’s on the finance and banking committee. Hooray!
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Well, I don't remember that last time Time Magazine did an article on a junior rep after only being in office for 3 months. just saying

http://time.com/longform/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-profile/

Time didn’t do one on Dan Crenshaw?
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