This is too good not to watch. A black perspective that covers all the political hot points:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR2lK36Tc4M

This is too good not to watch. A black perspective that covers all the political hot points:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR2lK36Tc4M

And your Point?

And your Point?

I stated it in the intro to the video.

I stated it in the intro to the video.

Are you suggesting this represents how blacks think on these topics ..or are you shocked black conservatives see things the same as white conservatives ?
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Are you suggesting this represents how blacks think on these topics ..or are you shocked black conservatives see things the same as white conservatives ?
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Again, you don't understand the meaning of the definite article "A." I said "A" black perspective, not "the" Black perspective.

I don't know why you asked If I am shocked. Where does that come from? What does that have to do with the video?

As usual, you, in one way or another, deflect from actually discussing a video that I post. I'm guessing that you dislike them and/or disagree with them. But making the video about me is evading the point of this forum--political discussion and debate. The search for truth and the back and forth discussions on points of view that can lead to some agreement on what is true and good as opposed to what is wrong and destructive.

I think that Owens and Elder are spot on in their opinions and statistics. And that they expose a connection with the Democrat party that is destructive to Blacks. I welcome you to dispute what they so eloquently say.

Again, you don't understand the meaning of the definite article "A." I said "A" black perspective, not "the" Black perspective.

I don't know why you asked If I am shocked. Where does that come from? What does that have to do with the video?

As usual, you, in one way or another, deflect from actually discussing a video that I post. I'm guessing that you dislike them and/or disagree with them. But making the video about me is evading the point of this forum--political discussion and debate. The search for truth and the back and forth discussions on points of view that can lead to some agreement on what is true and good as opposed to what is wrong and destructive.

I think that Owens and Elder are spot on in their opinions and statistics. And that they expose a connection with the Democrat party that is destructive to Blacks. I welcome you to dispute what they so eloquently say.


so in a nutshell they believe what you believe ... This post was about optics not content..

Candace owens (29) is the only person of color that Conservatives parade around. as an example as see we have black conserives (no kidding )

to bad they dont take time to read her History ... she's flip flopped more than Trump In less time




Owens was In a 2015 column that Owens wrote for the site she criticized conservative Republicans, writing about the "bat-#^&#^&#^&#^&-crazy antics of the Republican Tea Party", adding, "The good news is, they will eventually die off (peacefully in their sleep, we hope), and then we can get right on with the OBVIOUS social change that needs to happen, IMMEDIATELY.


By 2017, Owens had become known in conservative circles for her pro-Trump commentary and for criticizing liberal rhetoric regarding structural racism, systemic inequality, and identity politics


n October 2018, Owens launched the Blexit movement, a campaign to encourage African Americans to abandon the Democratic Party and register as Republicans.

With age comes wisdom

so in a nutshell they believe what you believe ... This post was about optics not content..

So there it is. It's not about ideas and principles. It's about who's side, which tribe. In a nutshell, she doesn't believe what you believe. Eff actually discussing the video.

Candace owens (29) is the only person of color that Conservatives parade around. as an example as see we have black conserives (no kidding )

There are several others. And they are not, as you denigrate, being "paraded around". They are speaking out on their own. And doing so eloquently and persuasively.

to bad they dont take time to read her History ... she's flip flopped more than Trump In less time

It's not a negative that she changed her thinking away from being stuck in the stupid non-productive, destructive, victimization and dependence race identity.

Owens was In a 2015 column that Owens wrote for the site she criticized conservative Republicans, writing about the "bat-#^&#^&#^&#^&-crazy antics of the Republican Tea Party", adding, "The good news is, they will eventually die off (peacefully in their sleep, we hope), and then we can get right on with the OBVIOUS social change that needs to happen, IMMEDIATELY.

That's the crap that she was fed in her formative years and informed her way of thinking before she started examining what actually was true and not true. When she became "woke" she was liberated from the stifling notion that she was being held back because of her race.

By 2017, Owens had become known in conservative circles for her pro-Trump commentary and for criticizing liberal rhetoric regarding structural racism, systemic inequality, and identity politics

What is more critical is she is becoming known in Black circles.

n October 2018, Owens launched the Blexit movement, a campaign to encourage African Americans to abandon the Democratic Party and register as Republicans.

That is why the leftists must marginalize and destroy her. Not by debating her, but by smearing her character--sort of like what you're doing here.

With age comes wisdom

wdmso still has time to age a bit more and get there. I hope.

That is why the leftists must marginalize and destroy her. Not by debating her, but by smearing her character--sort of like what you're doing here.

So when you bring up actual things she has said and done or topics that she's flipped flopped on .. you see that as smearing her character

I question her credibility based on that

she is smart she's playing conservatives like Trump did .. they both roll with who ever they think has the money

Wasn't she the person who settled a racism case for 35K and then later said the US doesn't have a problem with racism?

Is that smearing her character to ask that?

So when you bring up actual things she has said and done or topics that she's flipped flopped on .. you see that as smearing her character

I question her credibility based on that

she is smart she's playing conservatives like Trump did .. they both roll with who ever they think has the money

When Obama and Hillary flip-flopped on Gay Marriage, did you question their credibility? Just trying to establish a base line.
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Wasn't she the person who settled a racism case for 35K and then later said the US doesn't have a problem with racism?

Is that smearing her character to ask that?

Did she sue the entire U.S. or did she have a case against an individual?

Is that ok to clarify before we label the entire country racist?
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Did she sue the entire U.S. or did she have a case against an individual?

Is that ok to clarify before we label the entire country racist?
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No one has claimed the entire US is racist but for her to say there is no problem when she in fact had a problem seems a little hypocritical to me.
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Wasn't she the person who settled a racism case for 35K and then later said the US doesn't have a problem with racism?

Is that smearing her character to ask that?

Yes, it is a smear by the leftists because their narrative is false. They claim she said that racism is over in America. She did not say that. She said that America is not a racist country. Yes we have racists. That does not make us a racist country. Otherwise, if we accept the standard that having some racists makes a country racist, then I don't know of a country that isn't racist.

And the Owens family initial complaint was that the delay in arresting the teens was because one of them was the son of the mayor. They did not request the help of the NAACP. The NAACP saw another opportunity to show how racist America is and further the victim status of Blacks in this country, and jumped in to sue for racism. It was an NAACP maneuver, using the Owens family to implement it. But a racist country would not have allowed the suit, much less the verdict.

The left also tried destroying her by misrepresenting something she said about Hitler, portraying it as supporting him. And that support supposedly showing the true roots of why she doesn't see nationalism as the evil that the left sees it. Among other things, she has noted that when nationalism is mentioned, there is an immediate attachment of Hitler to it. Actually, she has stated that she despises Hitler. And that he was not a nationalist, but that he was more of a globalist, as shown by his desires to conquer all of Europe and Russia and make alliances with Italy and Japan and Muslim anti-Jews in the Middle East.

If you want to find a truly racist country, look to Asia, or Africa, or the Middle East. Those areas are rich in pervasive and legal racism.

Here is an article that says it better: https://www.redstate.com/diary/davenj1/2019/03/02/candace-owens-cpac-creates-stir/

So yes, the effort by the left is not to accurately depict who she is and what she has said or believes, but to destroy her in whatever way possible because she is a threat to their anti-American narrative.

No one has claimed the entire US is racist but for her to say there is no problem when she in fact had a problem seems a little hypocritical to me.
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I can't find where she said that there is no problem or that racism doesn't exist. I've seen leftist media implying that she said those things.

BTW. How about the other person in the video. Any leftist smears some of you want to bring up about Larry Elder?

Yes, it is a smear by the leftists because their narrative is false. They claim she said that racism is over in America. She did not say that. She said that America is not a racist country. Yes we have racists. That does not make us a racist country. Otherwise, if we accept the standard that having some racists makes a country racist, then I don't know of a country that isn't racist.

And the Owens family initial complaint was that the delay in arresting the teens was because one of them was the son of the mayor. They did not request the help of the NAACP. The NAACP saw another opportunity to show how racist America is and further the victim status of Blacks in this country, and jumped in to sue for racism. It was an NAACP maneuver, using the Owens family to implement it. But a racist country would not have allowed the suit, much less the verdict.

The left also tried destroying her by misrepresenting something she said about Hitler, portraying it as supporting him. And that support supposedly showing the true roots of why she doesn't see nationalism as the evil that the left sees it. Among other things, she has noted that when nationalism is mentioned, there is an immediate attachment of Hitler to it. Actually, she has stated that she despises Hitler. And that he was not a nationalist, but that he was more of a globalist, as shown by his desires to conquer all of Europe and Russia and make alliances with Italy and Japan and Muslim anti-Jews in the Middle East.

If you want to find a truly racist country, look to Asia, or Africa, or the Middle East. Those areas are rich in pervasive and legal racism.

Here is an article that says it better: https://www.redstate.com/diary/davenj1/2019/03/02/candace-owens-cpac-creates-stir/

So yes, the effort by the left is not to accurately depict who she is and what she has said or believes, but to destroy her in whatever way possible because she is a threat to their anti-American narrative.
As usual I didn't read most of your post but when I was typing this I did see you talk about anti-American of the left. If you really believe that you have more anger than I thought you do
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As usual I didn't read most of your post but when I was typing this I did see you talk about anti-American of the left. If you really believe that you have more anger than I thought you do
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Yes, well I'm sure that it makes you feel better to dwell on how angry I am than it would be to read my post and discover how wrong you are.

Stay ignorant and happy.

When Obama and Hillary flip-flopped on Gay Marriage, did you question their credibility? Just trying to establish a base line.
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decades not 3 years.. and add no political party switching to the baseline


She's the Conservative version of AOC minus she's not elected they pulled her from youtube

Wasn't she the person who settled a racism case for 35K and then later said the US doesn't have a problem with racism?

Is that smearing her character to ask that?


Candace Owens lives rent-free in $3,500 apartment, claims toxic mold illness, sues landlord,


But if this was AOC OMG what a different tune the usual suspects would be singing

Yes, well I'm sure that it makes you feel better to dwell on how angry I am than it would be to read my post and discover how wrong you are.

Stay ignorant and happy.

I am happy and it is not ignorant to not care what 1 person says (similiar to the thread you just started about someone else). Anyone can find someone on the internet who fits their narrative. But if it makes you feel better that you found a black person who is a Rep, knock yourself out. I could care less if there is 1 white non college educated man who hates the Repub. It means nothing to me and I couldn't be bothered to start a thread about it.

decades not 3 years.. and add no political party switching to the baseline


She's the Conservative version of AOC minus she's not elected they pulled her from youtube

You know the more you type, the more you prove Jim's point

Dem = Good
Rep = Bad

A normal person would say "yeah, that was pretty banged up too" Not you though, there's acceptable time limits on questioning credibility. :rolleyes:

You know the more you type, the more you prove Jim's point

Dem = Good
Rep = Bad

A normal person would say "yeah, that was pretty banged up too" Not you though, there's acceptable time limits on questioning credibility. :rolleyes:

your funny only Dems or people who dont tow the republican narrative are boxed as Dem = Good
Rep = Bad

this whole thread was started to point out how evil Dem's are ..

you must have missed that part ...

But in true conservative fashion you see changing one's mind as changing one's mind .. and are equal and the reasons are irrelevant... its amazing to watch

this whole thread was started to point out how evil Dem's are ..

It was??? I thought it was created to bring about discussion on what she was saying

you must have missed that part ...

because you made that part up.

and what, exactly, was this thread intended to do? Point out how evil Republicans are? I think you can find the definition of Hypocrit in the mirror

It was??? I thought it was created to bring about discussion on what she was paid to say to plant an opinion that may not really be hers in your mind



because you made that part up.

I fixed it for you.
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I fixed it for you.
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Nah, you fixed it for you


and is that any different than Don Lemon or Rachel Maddow?

I am happy

Ignorance is bliss.

and it is not ignorant to not care what 1 person says

If you don't read a post, then you are ignorant of what is in it.

Anyone can find someone on the internet who fits their narrative.

And anyone can find an article that tries to smear the narrative

But if it makes you feel better that you found a black person who is a Rep, knock yourself out.

I "found" a lot of black persons that are Republicans. Didn't have to knock myself out doing so. Didn't even have to search. Reality exists for you to bump into it, if you care to open your eyes.

I could care less if there is 1 white non college educated man who hates the Repub. It means nothing to me and I couldn't be bothered to start a thread about it.

I could care less if you think I'm angry, or more angry than you thought. I could care less if you couldn't be bothered to start a thread. Or . . . actually, it would be a relief if you didn't.

So, I'm happy for you that I started a thread that you couldn't care less about, but must somehow try to denigrate

Lot of caring less yet your actions seem to suggest otherwise. Look at your posts

Doesn't Owens appear w/Alex Jones a lot? She recently said there was no such thing as Nixon's southern strategy.

Lot of caring less yet your actions seem to suggest otherwise. Look at your posts

I care about what I post. I could care less about your opinion on what you consider my anger. I could care less about what you could care less about.

Doesn't Owens appear w/Alex Jones a lot?

Is this another attempt to smear her? Guilt by association? What are the contexts and what was discussed? Oh, maybe you could care less about the details. I suppose that you think everything Jones has said is false and that all of his evil rubs off on anyone who gets next to him.

She recently said there was no such thing as Nixon's southern strategy.

There was a Southern strategy, but there was no big switch in party ideology.

You could care less but you care enough to post responses - weird.

Sorry to upset you about mentioning Alex Jones. Prob. another "I could care less" but you care enough to mention him.

You could care less but you care enough to post responses - weird.

Sorry to upset you about mentioning Alex Jones. Prob. another "I could care less" but you care enough to mention him.

Now you're melting down to pure gibberish.

I thought you couldn't care less. Tough to follow you.
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I thought you couldn't care less. Tough to follow you.
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I could care less that it is tough for you to follow me. It is very evident that you were not able to make your smear of Candace stick. Your only way to save face is to lead the discussion into a meaningless rabbit hole of stupid gibberish.

Apparently, you're too stupid to have a rational discussion on the topic of this thread and too stupid to "follow" that your ignorance is not worth caring about. And too stupid to understand that telling you so means that somehow I must really care that you're stupid.
Actually, it's fun to throw back your own "I could care less" bit back at you. But it does wear thin quickly. Boring.

If it's all you got, you can repeat your inability to follow, or worry about my anger, or how weird it is. Or come up with another attempt to smear Candace Owens.

But, by all means, stay away from a rational discussion of the video. I don't think you're capable of that. And you would just muck it all up and have to revert back to not caring less, or my supposed anger, or some actually new little stupid meme.

As Sea Dangles would say--carry on . . . .

You just repeatedly proved my point that you're an angry man.
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You just repeatedly proved my point that you're an angry man.
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:jump: You stupidly did exactly what I predicted. Carry on . . .

Are you going to send me one of those apology PMs again?
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Are you going to send me one of those apology PMs again?
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Nope. You don't deserve one. But I'll congratulate you for stupid consistency if you carry on about how I'm angry.

BTW, we can carry on this nonsense and expand the growing number of views and keep hot the thread you can't refute or successfully disparage. Or until TDF mercifully shuts us down.

I'm not carrying on about how angry you are you're demonstrated it in every post
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I'm not carrying on about how angry you are you're demonstrated it in every post
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:deadhorse::rollem: Brilliant . . . you did it again!! Congratulations!!

I don't have to do anything you just consistently show how angry you are.
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Just don’t tell him he whines.🍷
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I don't have to do anything you just consistently show how angry you are.
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Yawn . . . . carry on.

Just don’t tell him he whines.��
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I was wondering what that emoticon was. Good one. He drinks from that glass a lot. And whimpers too.

Yawn . . . . carry on.

You coming down off your anger high?
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Or until TDF mercifully shuts us down.

Oh, please, carry on. Enjoy.
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Oh, please, carry on. Enjoy.
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It's getting very boring. But what the hell . . . OK.

You coming down off your anger high?
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You're on to something there. It's a kind of high watching you be stuck on stupid. On the other hand, there is the danger that you might be suffering a pathology of sorts. A severe form of Tourette's syndrome maybe? Or maybe just a simple run-of-the-mill mental disturbance . . . a sort of projection syndrome? I should feel guilty for egging you on to display your limited ability to converse in a rational manner, constantly repeating yourself. But . . . I don't.

Carry on . . .

Calling me stupid has as much impact to me as calling me fat or bald. Tourette's good one. Maybe next say I have MS.

Now calling you angry is evident by all your posts.

the democrats hate candace owens, they are terrified of her message, they are terrified of her
potential impact. so, naturally, a congressman portrays her as a nazi sympathizer. When you can’t make them wrong ( and boy, when she says liberalism encourages fatherlessness and is destroying black culture, are they stuck trying to make that wrong), make her a Nazi.

Liberalism 101.
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Calling me stupid has as much impact to me as calling me fat or bald. Tourette's good one. Maybe next say I have MS.

Now calling you angry is evident by all your posts.

Keep carrying on, my man. If you got nothing else to contribute to this thread, then keep it moving along by going back, over and over, to the angry card. Got to give it to your tenacious grasp of and hanging on to the one little thing that you think is important as a response to your inability to stay with a logical and rational discussion on a given topic. It's a sort of petulant trait, adorable at times in a child, not so much in an adult.

the democrats hate candace owens, they are terrified of her message, they are terrified of her
potential impact. so, naturally, a congressman portrays her as a nazi sympathizer. When you can’t make them wrong ( and boy, when she says liberalism encourages fatherlessness and is destroying black culture, are they stuck trying to make that wrong), make her a Nazi.

Liberalism 101.
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Hey, you're disrupting the flow of irrational and abusive comments from wdmso and PaulS by actually making a remark on what the video in this thread is about.

Hey, you're disrupting the flow of irrational and abusive comments from wdmso and PaulS by actually making a remark on what the video in this thread is about.

she came to uconn, my alma
mater, within the last two weeks. the school tried to block her and her group, said they incite violence, blah, blah, blah.

then a liberal professor ( redundant) encouraged her students to reserve many of the seats, and then not go.

GOD FORBID you listen to someone who disagrees with you, and if you think they are wrong, tell them why your idea is better. Nope. everyone with another opinion, must be shut down
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the democrats hate candace owens, they are terrified of her message, they are terrified of her
potential impact. so, naturally, a congressman portrays her as a nazi sympathizer. When you can’t make them wrong ( and boy, when she says liberalism encourages fatherlessness and is destroying black culture, are they stuck trying to make that wrong), make her a Nazi.

Liberalism 101.
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She's the Rights AOC but liberals are not afraid of her or her message she has no power .. except to speak to Trumps base ... And is every conservatives 1 black friend ... LOL

She's the Rights AOC but liberals are not afraid of her or her message she has no power .. except to speak to Trumps base ... And is every conservatives 1 black friend ... LOL

please. AOC is a
moron, a child, peddling easy answers to thoughtless millennials, with zero plans to implement them. Owens is speaking truth, actual truth, to power. An absurd comparison, though you’ve made it
multiple times.

if liberals aren’t afraid of her, then they wouldn’t have dishonestly called her a nazi sympathizer in congress. and UCONN would
not have gone berserk at the thought of letting their students hear the idea that whitey isn’t responsible
for everything that’s wrong in black communities.

look what they did to her in congress, and me they’re not afraid.

again, you’ve done nothing o try and tell us why her views are wrong, so you insult her and those who like her.

insults are easy, try telling us, why her opinions are wrong. You can’t.
So you lob insults.

Liberalism 101.
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please. AOC is a
moron, a child, peddling easy answers to thoughtless millennials, with zero plans to implement them. Owens is speaking truth, actual truth, to power. An absurd comparison, though you’ve made it
multiple times.

if liberals aren’t afraid of her, then they wouldn’t have dishonestly called her a nazi sympathizer in congress. and UCONN would
not have gone berserk at the thought of letting their students hear the idea that whitey isn’t responsible
for everything that’s wrong in black communities.

look what they did to her in congress, and me they’re not afraid.

again, you’ve done nothing o try and tell us why her views are wrong, so you insult her and those who like her.

insults are easy, try telling us, why her opinions are wrong. You can’t.
So you lob insults.

Liberalism 101.
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Her views are her views right or wrong .. she's playing you and your kind . Her being black gives you what you always wanted.. a person of color who sees the world as you do .. its some kind vindication for conservatives
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Her views are her views right or wrong .. she's playing you and your kind . Her being black gives you what you always wanted.. a person of color who sees the world as you do .. its some kind vindication for conservatives
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how is she playing me, exactly? what is she getting from me? i concluded, long before anyone had ever heard of her, that liberalism was a catastrophe for blacks, not because she says so, but because the evidence overwhelmingly says so. so how is she playing me?

i could care less what her skin color is. your side is the side obsessed with identity politics.

her skin color makes her
more of a lethal threat to your side.
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Her views are her views right or wrong ..
she's playing you and your kind .

If her views are right, then who and their kind are being played by a false narrative?

Her being black gives you what you always wanted.. a person of color who sees the world as you do .. its some kind vindication for conservatives
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There have been many persons of color with her views that came before her and stand alongside her. In fact, she learned by some of them, including her guest on this video, Larry Elder, about the views that ran counter to those she had been indoctrinated with in her formative years. You might also research and find some left wing articles that smear him to help you out with supporting those who are playing you and your kind. You may also research to find articles that try to smear Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams. Maybe also Jim Brown . . . hey, even Frederick Douglas didn't want the government to give handouts to black folks, but just to leave them alone so they could take care of themselves.

There has been a long tradition of black conservatism and pride of doing for themselves. But all that sort of "racist" nonsense has been played down as a means to oppress "people of color." They simply don't have the power to do the boot strap thing, so must be aided by government programs even barely to exist. Apparently forever.

We must not let quislings like Owens or Elder or Sowell, et. al. preach escape from . . . er . . . I mean, preach some traitorous rhetoric that destroys the long hard march toward government subsistence . . . er . . . I mean government justice, you know, social justice, that prevents white people from oppressing people of color.

And Owns, and elder, and Sowell, and et. al. are just puppets, mirages--don't listen to them. We . . . I mean they . . . will just keep you on the plantation.

They can not dispute her views so they target her motives and party affiliation.
Sad.
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They can not dispute her views so they target her motives and party affiliation.
Sad.
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and call her a nazi!!

imagine being a private citizen, and a united states congressman calls you a a hitler fan, because you have a different opinion, one
much more supported by the facts.
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