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Jim in CT
04-22-2019, 12:16 PM
When Muslims were slaughtered in New Zealand, both Obama and Hilary were very specific to say they were sorry for what happened to Muslims. They identified the victims as "Muslims", and they were correct to do so.

On Easter, when hundreds of Christians were killed in Sri Lanka, neither Obama nor Hilary used the word "Christians". The victims were identified as "Easter worshippers".

Can't figure out how Hilary lost, that's a real head-scratcher. Why is it offensive to say the word "Christians?"

That's some pollitical ideology you got there, when the word "Christian" is as distasteful as the saying the name Voldemort.

If only there was a single word to describe people who worship at Easter, to celebrate Christs' rising from the dead?

I. for one, still can't figure out how Hilary lost, it's a real head-scratcher.

Those deplorable Easter-worshippers...a bunch of bitter clingers, too...

wdmso
04-22-2019, 01:38 PM
When Muslims were slaughtered in New Zealand, both Obama and Hilary were very specific to say they were sorry for what happened to Muslims. They identified the victims as "Muslims", and they were correct to do so.

On Easter, when hundreds of Christians were killed in Sri Lanka, neither Obama nor Hilary used the word "Christians". The victims were identified as "Easter worshippers".

Can't figure out how Hilary lost, that's a real head-scratcher. Why is it offensive to say the word "Christians?"

That's some pollitical ideology you got there, when the word "Christian" is as distasteful as the saying the name Voldemort.

If only there was a single word to describe people who worship at Easter, to celebrate Christs' rising from the dead?

I. for one, still can't figure out how Hilary lost, it's a real head-scratcher.

Those deplorable Easter-worshippers...a bunch of bitter clingers, too...


and trump said 138 million were killed ( thats a i dont care mistake not a typo) and no mention of christian? or did you miss that as well ? and when you say Easter people understand easter is attached to christianity like ramadan is attached to muslims.. did you know there are 33,000 christian Denominations"? should they all be mentioned by name


Heartfelt condolences from the people of the United States to the people of Sri Lanka on the horrible terrorist attacks on churches and hotels that have killed at least 138 million people and badly injured 600 more,” Trump tweeted. “We stand ready to help!”

The Dad Fisherman
04-22-2019, 01:51 PM
Again, you are so blinded by TDS that you miss the point.

Yes Trump didn't use the word Christians per se, but the others actually replaced the word "Christians" with the words "Easter Worshippers". Is it really too hard for them to say Christian.

Trump made a mistake and rectified it, not a big deal. And before you start with the "Typical Trump Base BS", I didn't get all worked up over Obama's "57 states" comment either because I can recognize an honest mistake when I see one.

Jim in CT
04-22-2019, 02:23 PM
and trump said 138 million were killed ( thats a i dont care mistake not a typo) and no mention of christian? or did you miss that as well ? and when you say Easter people understand easter is attached to christianity like ramadan is attached to muslims.. did you know there are 33,000 christian Denominations"? should they all be mentioned by name


Heartfelt condolences from the people of the United States to the people of Sri Lanka on the horrible terrorist attacks on churches and hotels that have killed at least 138 million people and badly injured 600 more,” Trump tweeted. “We stand ready to help!”

so instead of simply admitting that it’s offensive to Hilary/obama to bend over backwards to avoid calling them christians, you reflexively ( and it is literally a reflex for you) point to something unethical Trump did. TDS is strong in you.
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spence
04-22-2019, 02:26 PM
Yes Trump didn't use the word Christians per se, but the others actually replaced the word "Christians" with the words "Easter Worshippers". Is it really too hard for them to say Christian.
Perhaps they just wanted to highlight that it was Easter?

Jim in CT
04-22-2019, 02:29 PM
Is it really too hard for them to say Christian.

.

Not that it’s too hard, more that there’s no political payoff, no firing up the base, by sympathizing with christians. because only those anointed by the left with “victim “ status, deserve sympathy, because that’s the only kind of liberal snowflake sympathy, which makes liberals feel morally superior to everyone else.
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Jim in CT
04-22-2019, 02:30 PM
Perhaps they just wanted to highlight that it was Easter?

or perhaps they are really, truly, azzholes.

they could have said “some people
did something”.
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The Dad Fisherman
04-22-2019, 02:45 PM
Perhaps they just wanted to highlight that it was Easter?

Do they often use the term "Ramadan Worshippers"?

Jim in CT
04-22-2019, 02:55 PM
spence, when your political
ideology is, literally, so f*cked up, that they can’t admit what actually happened unless it’s politically beneficial, isn’t it time for a new ideology?
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Jim in CT
04-22-2019, 02:56 PM
Do they often use the term "Ramadan Worshippers"?

now imagine, if Trump had referred to those victims as “Kiwis who arent exactly enthralled with the concept of Easter.”
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wdmso
04-22-2019, 03:31 PM
Again, you are so blinded by TDS that you miss the point.

Yes Trump didn't use the word Christians per se, but the others actually replaced the word "Christians" with the words "Easter Worshippers". Is it really too hard for them to say Christian.

Trump made a mistake and rectified it, not a big deal. And before you start with the "Typical Trump Base BS", I didn't get all worked up over Obama's "57 states" comment either because I can recognize an honest mistake when I see one.


Wow Trump doesn't mention Christians or use the word at all .. but using Easter Worshippers" is somehow worse .. Talk about a leap

Trump made an Honest mistake ... (I am sure he didn't think millions had died honest mistake nope ) when was the last time you spelled Millions when you ment Hundreds even autocorrect can't make that jump ... it was mistake all right a not giving a F---k mistake

wdmso
04-22-2019, 03:35 PM
so instead of simply admitting that it’s offensive to Hilary/obama to bend over backwards to avoid calling them christians, you reflexively ( and it is literally a reflex for you) point to something unethical Trump did. TDS is strong in you.
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funny you could have put all three in your outrage post and i would have seen your point

But you conveniently left him out

And because I called you on it.. I am the one with TDS clearly you have no mirrors in your house

Also several hotels were targeted not just churches.

Jim in CT
04-22-2019, 04:56 PM
funny you could have put all three in your outrage post and i would have seen your point

But you conveniently left him out

And because I called you on it.. I am the one with TDS clearly you have no mirrors in your house

Also several hotels were targeted not just churches.

whatever trump said, i’m not concerned that he’s biased against christians. no christian has any such concern. he rejects all religions equally.

obama routinely trampled on the rights of christians, he was successfully sued multiple
times ( hobby lobby, little sisters if the poor).. there’s zero evidence trump is an anti christian bigot. so there’s no hypocrisy i’m sorry to say.
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spence
04-22-2019, 05:50 PM
spence, when your political
ideology is, literally, so f*cked up, that they can’t admit what actually happened unless it’s politically beneficial, isn’t it time for a new ideology?
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You’ve gotten to such a level of crazy I don’t even know how to respond to these posts.
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Jim in CT
04-22-2019, 05:55 PM
You’ve gotten to such a level of crazy I don’t even know how to respond to these posts.
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yes . Your side can’t say that christians were targets of terror, they are literally incapable of saying it. but when i point out how stupid that is, I’m the crazy one.

i know you don’t know how to respond. because there’s no easy way for you to paint it as

liberal=good
conservative=bad
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spence
04-22-2019, 06:24 PM
yes . Your side can’t say that christians were targets of terror, they are literally incapable of saying it. but when i point out how stupid that is, I’m the crazy one.

i know you don’t know how to respond. because there’s no easy way for you to paint it as

liberal=good
conservative=bad
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Last time I checked people who worship at Easter are generally Christians, you’re just falling for the same old birther smears.
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RIROCKHOUND
04-22-2019, 07:04 PM
When Muslims were slaughtered in New Zealand, both Obama and Hilary were very specific to say they were sorry for what happened to Muslims. They identified the victims as "Muslims", and they were correct to do so.

On Easter, when hundreds of Christians were killed in Sri Lanka, neither Obama nor Hilary used the word "Christians". The victims were identified as "Easter worshippers".

Can't figure out how Hilary lost, that's a real head-scratcher. Why is it offensive to say the word "Christians?"

That's some pollitical ideology you got there, when the word "Christian" is as distasteful as the saying the name Voldemort.

If only there was a single word to describe people who worship at Easter, to celebrate Christs' rising from the dead?

I. for one, still can't figure out how Hilary lost, it's a real head-scratcher.

Those deplorable Easter-worshippers...a bunch of bitter clingers, too...

I just read the official press release from the White House.... didn’t see the word Christian there either, just ‘precious lives on this Easter Sunday’.... they easily could have said Christians in that statement had they desired.

https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-statement-from-the-press-secretary-1834198284

For what it’s worth I identify as somewhere between agnostic or atheist... if I had been in a church for a service because my catholic wife wanted to take the kids, I wouldn’t really be a Christian.... just saying....





Oh look Obama wore a brown suit that one time.....
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spence
04-22-2019, 07:24 PM
Oh look Obama wore a brown suit that one time.....
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It was a tan suit!

Think the right blogs are trying to distract from anything?
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Jim in CT
04-22-2019, 07:35 PM
I just read the official press release from the White House.... didn’t see the word Christian there either, just ‘precious lives on this Easter Sunday’.... they easily could have said Christians in that statement had they desired.

https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-statement-from-the-press-secretary-1834198284

For what it’s worth I identify as somewhere between agnostic or atheist... if I had been in a church for a service because my catholic wife wanted to take the kids, I wouldn’t really be a Christian.... just saying....





Oh look Obama wore a brown suit that one time.....
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for the second time, trump has zero history of being bigoted against christians. Obama
and Hilary? can’t say the same.

and
my previous post, where i said trump would have been crucified if he called the victims of the new zealand attack as kiwis who don’t worship easter.


the attack wasn’t carried
out to passers by. it was carried out to kill christians.
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Jim in CT
04-22-2019, 07:38 PM
obama’s choice of suit color, is the same as his continued hostility toward christians, and their constitutional protections?
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Got Stripers
04-22-2019, 08:11 PM
Just think what life on this planet would be like without religion, it’s been responsible for so much wrong done in the sake of the greater “good”.
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detbuch
04-22-2019, 11:32 PM
Just think what life on this planet would be like without religion, it’s been responsible for so much wrong done in the sake of the greater “good”.
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You might want to look a little deeper than the superficial notion that a world without religion would be free from "so much wrong done in the sake of the greater 'good'" as you put it. A Jew and a Gay Man Agree: America was Founded on Christian Values:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVdv9hg6Zvs


Jim, this might help to explain why they said "Easter worshippers" instead of Christians.

Jim in CT
04-23-2019, 06:03 AM
christian values motivated the founding of the greatest country in the history of the planet, they motivated the end of slavery and segregation.
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Got Stripers
04-23-2019, 06:44 AM
I would suggest you don’t need to be religious to have good values or morals. Look at the latest killing of 320 people, all over radical religious beliefs, just add it to the millions killed in the name of religion.
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wdmso
04-23-2019, 06:44 AM
whatever trump said, i’m not concerned that he’s biased against christians. no christian has any such concern. he rejects all religions equally.

obama routinely trampled on the rights of christians, he was successfully sued multiple
times ( hobby lobby, little sisters if the poor).. there’s zero evidence trump is an anti christian bigot. so there’s no hypocrisy i’m sorry to say.
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Oh now its about Obama .. the Christian anti christian. Thats the problem with good Christians like yourself and most holy rollers they are arrogant love throwing stones
they see gay marriage sex ed , transgender rights , teaching of evolution rights to birth control all as attacks on christianity. In a nut shell if they don't get their way it's an attack on christianity. seems you have ODS and HDS WDS
But its acceptable for you?
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JohnR
04-23-2019, 06:56 AM
The bias in politicians and media is why you would have a headline that read like "27 Muslims praying a their Mosque during the Holy month of Ramadan were victim to an attack" and "27 Easter worshipers were killed by unknown gunmen with unknown motivations". Can totally see it.

That said, it is equally abhorrent when good innocent people praying or simply living life regardless of their views or religion, are killed.



Do they often use the term "Ramadan Worshippers"?


No, it is usually "The Faithful worshiping holy month of Ramadan prayers attacked"...



Just think what life on this planet would be like without religion, it’s been responsible for so much wrong done in the sake of the greater “good”.
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Human nature has its very bad seeds, religion is sometimes just the vessel, as sometimes is labor, as sometimes is greed, as sometimes pride, as sometimes is nationalism, as is often the want to help others (cough, Marxism).

Jim in CT
04-23-2019, 07:44 AM
I would suggest you don’t need to be religious to have good values or morals. Look at the latest killing of 320 people, all over radical religious beliefs, just add it to the millions killed in the name of religion.
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i don’t think anyone has ever suggested that religion is a prerequisite to being a good person.

but it helps. studies show pretty clearly that believers who try to live in accordance with what they believe,,identify as being happier, less likely to get divorced, etc. i’m willing to bet they commit less violent crime, less likely to do drugs, etc.
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Jim in CT
04-23-2019, 07:46 AM
Oh now its about Obama .. the Christian anti christian. Thats the problem with good Christians like yourself and most holy rollers they are arrogant love throwing stones
they see gay marriage sex ed , transgender rights , teaching of evolution rights to birth control all as attacks on christianity. In a nut shell if they don't get their way it's an attack on christianity. seems you have ODS and HDS WDS
But its acceptable for you?
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yes, it’s about obama
and hilary specifically, and liberals in general, hating christianity.

that obama calls himself a christian, doesn’t make him a christian, no more than Pelosi is actually a catholic.

obama, not knowing the mic was
on, called them bitter clingers who don’t like people whose skin color is different. thats someone who doesn’t like christians.

hilary says that people
on the right, and most christians are on the right, are deplorable and sexist and racist.

did i get any of that wrong?

wayne, you don’t think there was any specific reason why obama/hilary used the word
muslims to describe the victims in new zealand, but wouldn’t use the word christians to describe the victims in sri lanka?



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wdmso
04-23-2019, 08:24 AM
yes, it’s about obama
and hilary specifically, and liberals in general, hating christianity.

that obama calls himself a christian, doesn’t make him a christian, no more than Pelosi is actually a catholic.

obama, not knowing the mic was
on, called them bitter clingers who don’t like people whose skin color is different. thats someone who doesn’t like christians.

hilary says that people
on the right, and most christians are on the right, are deplorable and sexist and racist.

did i get any of that wrong? (no they were both spot on you reinforce this every time you bring up religion .. you act as if these people dont exist in your christian world )

wayne, you don’t think there was any specific reason why obama/hilary used the word
muslims to describe the victims in new zealand, but wouldn’t use the word christians to describe the victims in sri lanka?



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There is no specific reason why obama/hilary used the word
muslims to describe the victims in new zealand, but wouldn’t use the word christians to describe the victims in sri lanka? were they all christians its clear why they targeted churches and the hotels

only your conspiracy minded brain and hate for thoses 2 is the only thing driving that logic ..

For normal people its easy

Mosque translate to Musulim

synagogue translates to Jews

Kingdom Halls translates jehovah witness

Notre-Dame translates catholic


The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints translates mormons

Easter translate into whatever denomination you are

for me I was raised catholic I would see it as a catholic not as the technical term "christian "



Sri Lankan Official Says Bombings Are Retaliation For New Zealand Massacre

Where in history have we seen this story before Tit for tat Retaliation

I bet their are some christians willing to do such a thing and continue the endless cycle

While us none religious folks sit back and watch ... shaking our heads

The Dad Fisherman
04-23-2019, 08:40 AM
Easter translate into whatever denomination you are


Easter noun
English Language Learners Definition of Easter
: a Christian church festival that celebrates the return of Jesus Christ to life following his death
also : the Sunday in early spring on which this festival is observed

A better comparison would have been:

Ramadan translates to Muslims
Passover translates to Jews
Easter translates to Christians

Catholics are Christians, Protestants are Christians, Lutherans are Christians.

Just like there are different flavors of Islam, but they are all called Muslims.

Jim in CT
04-23-2019, 09:28 AM
There is no specific reason why obama/hilary used the word
muslims to describe the victims in new zealand, but wouldn’t use the word christians to describe the victims in sri lanka? were they all christians its clear why they targeted churches and the hotels

only your conspiracy minded brain and hate for thoses 2 is the only thing driving that logic ..

For normal people its easy

Mosque translate to Musulim

synagogue translates to Jews

Kingdom Halls translates jehovah witness

Notre-Dame translates catholic


The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints translates mormons

Easter translate into whatever denomination you are

for me I was raised catholic I would see it as a catholic not as the technical term "christian "



Sri Lankan Official Says Bombings Are Retaliation For New Zealand Massacre

Where in history have we seen this story before Tit for tat Retaliation

I bet their are some christians willing to do such a thing and continue the endless cycle

While us none religious folks sit back and watch ... shaking our heads

ok, you want to play dumber than before, i’ll oblige.

of course, its possible that non christians were killed.

but wayne, what do you suppose, the intent of this attack was? who was being targeted? anyone who happened to be in the area? or was this an attack aimed
at christians, do you suppose? in christian churches, on the holiest day of the year to christians? is that a coincidence, that the attacks were coordinated for easter?

hilary still has absolutely no idea why she lost the most un-losable election since Ike.
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Jim in CT
04-23-2019, 09:38 AM
Easter translate into whatever denomination you are



That is one of the more ignorant things posted on the internet today.

You're saying that Easter is important to all religions, whatever you happen to call yourself? Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Scientology, all celebrate Easter now?

Before you can criticize Obama/Hilary, you are willing to deny that Easter (as a religious holiday), is primarily celebrated by Christians.

Again, when your ideology requires you to deny irrefutable facts in order to praise politicians on your side, it might be time for a new ideology.

According to you, Easter applies to all religions now. You are saying that with a straight face, rather than admit that it's reasonable to be offended by the glaring double standard.

Easter is a Christian holiday (applies to Catholics, Protestants, Evangelicals, etc) to celebrate the resurrection and ascension of Christ. It is a Christian holiday. If you don't believe Christ was the son of God, that means you don't celebrate Easter as a religious holiday.

I have to go now, I'm due back on the planet Earth.

Sea Dangles
04-23-2019, 09:53 AM
I think his point was some types intersect depending on denomination. Easter/ Passover. Christmas/Hanukkah. But I am unsure.
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spence
04-23-2019, 09:55 AM
This thread could set a record for fake outrage.
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PaulS
04-23-2019, 10:00 AM
You're just making an excuse for Obama. He did put his feet up on a desk in the oval office once after all.

Jim in CT
04-23-2019, 10:00 AM
This thread could set a record for fake outrage.
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i wouldn’t say i’m outraged, just pointing out the obvious. but if the outrage over the liberal narrative was indeed fake, hilary would be in the white house, instead of throwing all dignity aside
and embarking on a speaking tour.
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Jim in CT
04-23-2019, 10:03 AM
I think his point was some types intersect depending on denomination. Easter/ Passover. Christmas/Hanukkah. But I am unsure.
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easter and passover often intersect, but they aren’t the same holiday, not even close.
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Jim in CT
04-23-2019, 10:04 AM
You're just making an excuse for Obama. He did put his feet up on a desk in the oval office once after all.

i never got that petty with him, didn’t need to. there were plenty of actual flops, no need to invent any.
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PaulS
04-23-2019, 10:55 AM
i never got that petty with him, didn’t need to. there were plenty of actual flops, no need to invent any.
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Those events kept the right wing news going for weeks.

Jim in CT
04-23-2019, 11:25 AM
Those events kept the right wing news going for weeks.

Sean Hannity yes. He's a clown.

You getting out yet? Thinking of taking my kids in search of some schoolies soon.

PaulS
04-23-2019, 01:11 PM
Yes, action seems to be picking up recently. I fish the rivers this time of year.

Jim in CT
04-23-2019, 02:40 PM
Yes, action seems to be picking up recently. I fish the rivers this time of year.

thanks, have a great season!!
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Jim in CT
04-23-2019, 04:51 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/hillary-clinton-shouts-easter-worshipers-at-wheel-of-fortune-puzzle?fbclid=IwAR2z64-yZgoB-vTGCwgdT3vkv-qHaQg5zHGs82lKm3LydXrAlqkyRVItNTY
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The Dad Fisherman
04-23-2019, 06:45 PM
:hihi:
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scottw
04-23-2019, 08:35 PM
I've never heard the term "Easter worshipers" till the other day...nor Christmas Worshipers, Hanukkah worshipers...Ramadan worshipers..etc.. sounds stupid phrasing it that way....

if you google those you get nothing except the references to the hillary and obama statements for Easter worshipers....guess they are REALLY smart....

wdmso
04-24-2019, 06:33 AM
I've never heard the term "Easter worshipers" till the other day...nor Christmas Worshipers, Hanukkah worshipers...Ramadan worshipers..etc.. sounds stupid phrasing it that way....

if you google those you get nothing except the references to the hillary and obama statements for Easter worshipers....guess they are REALLY smart....
You left out what sources showed in the search

99% were. Drum roll. Conservative..

Glad Jim thinks for himself
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wdmso
04-24-2019, 06:44 AM
I think his point was some types intersect depending on denomination. Easter/ Passover. Christmas/Hanukkah. But I am unsure.
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Basically. I grew up Catholic Easter was a catholic holiday.. it was never sold as Christian . That was my point not that it wasn't a Christian holiday

Funny we don't call pedophiles priests.. Christian priests. we call them catholic priests ..
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The Dad Fisherman
04-24-2019, 06:54 AM
Basically. I grew up Catholic Easter was a catholic holiday.. it was never sold as Christian . That was my point not that it wasn't a Christian holiday

Funny we don't call pedophiles priests.. Christian priests. we call them catholic priests ..
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Easter is a Christian Holiday, doesn't matter what you were "Sold", it doesn't change that fact.

And its Catholic priests because the other Christian religions refer to them as Ministers/Pastors/Preachers or other titles, different religions have different titles for their clergy.

scottw
04-24-2019, 07:36 AM
You left out what sources showed in the search

99% were. Drum roll. Conservative..

Glad Jim thinks for himself
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this is dumb...but I love you...I'll slow down for you....Google "Easter worshipers"..."Hanukkah worshipers"...."Christmas worshipers"..."Ramadan worshipers"...

you will not find anything because nobody uses these terms.....

except....

references to hillary and obamas "Easter worshipers"

they are obviously smarter than the internets :confused:

scottw
04-24-2019, 07:37 AM
Basically. I grew up Catholic Easter was a catholic holiday.. it was never sold as Christian . That was my point not that it wasn't a Christian holiday

Funny we don't call pedophiles priests.. Christian priests. we call them catholic priests ..
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wow.....something in the coffee :jester:

scottw
04-24-2019, 07:40 AM
can we just start calling hillary, obama and the left "government worshipers" whenever they gather in different places and pray or rally for the government to do something or does it have to be a holiday like "May Day worshipers"?

Jim in CT
04-24-2019, 08:09 AM
Easter is a Christian Holiday, doesn't matter what you were "Sold", it doesn't change that fact.

And its Catholic priests because the other Christian religions refer to them as Ministers/Pastors/Preachers or other titles, different religions have different titles for their clergy.

Why do you Trumplicans always interrupt a good liberal rant, with facts?

The Dad Fisherman
04-24-2019, 08:19 AM
Why do you Trumplicans always interrupt a good liberal rant, with facts?

Maybe because I wear my tin-foil too tight and drink my kool-aid from an Octoberfest mug.

wdmso
04-24-2019, 02:32 PM
Easter is a Christian Holiday, doesn't matter what you were "Sold", it doesn't change that fact.




And its Catholic priests because the other Christian religions refer to them as Ministers/Pastors/Preachers or other titles, different religions have different titles for their clergy.


So we can be specific with the names of clergy ... but we can't cover
all those killed as easter worshipers even if we know ..

Easter is a Christian Holiday, doesn't matter what you were "Sold", it doesn't change that fact.


So explain to me how based on your statement that easter worshipers
doesn't clearly suggest those celebrating a Christian Holiday aka Christians

Yet the POTUS doesn't call them christians either but theres no issue ??

Jim in CT
04-24-2019, 03:14 PM
So explain to me how based on your statement that easter worshipers
doesn't clearly suggest those celebrating a Christian Holiday aka Christians

??

WDMSO, neither Obama nor Hilary would have EVER referred to the New Zealand victims as "Ramadan worshippers". Not ever. If you asked them why they would never refer to them that way, they'd say it would have been insulting and offensive. But it's more than OK to refer to Christians as such.


And they don't worship "Easter". They celebrate the resurrection and ascension of Christ. We don't worship candy or colored eggs or bunnies carrying baskets.

Phrasing it the way they did, is demeaning and trivializing. Everyone tells me what a brilliant speaker Obama was, so I can only assume it was intentional.

The Dad Fisherman
04-24-2019, 03:14 PM
Sweet Baby Jesus :wall: :wall:

wdmso
04-24-2019, 04:31 PM
WDMSO, neither Obama nor Hilary would have EVER referred to the New Zealand victims as "Ramadan worshippers". Not ever. If you asked them why they would never refer to them that way, they'd say it would have been insulting and offensive. But it's more than OK to refer to Christians as such.


And they don't worship "Easter". They celebrate the resurrection and ascension of Christ. We don't worship candy or colored eggs or bunnies carrying baskets.

Phrasing it the way they did, is demeaning and trivializing. Everyone tells me what a brilliant speaker Obama was, so I can only assume it was intentional.


And your proof is exactly what? But again Trump never mentioned Christians or Easter and your good with that. I get it
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spence
04-24-2019, 04:42 PM
WDMSO, neither Obama nor Hilary would have EVER referred to the New Zealand victims as "Ramadan worshippers". Not ever. If you asked them why they would never refer to them that way, they'd say it would have been insulting and offensive. But it's more than OK to refer to Christians as such.
Hey, feel free to put words in their mouths why don't you. Jim, your ability to just make #^&#^&#^&#^& up and have total confidence in your speculation is utterly Trump like.

And they don't worship "Easter". They celebrate the resurrection and ascension of Christ. We don't worship candy or colored eggs or bunnies carrying baskets.
Easter is about the resurrection. The people there were worshiping the resurrection. Easter Worshipers.


Phrasing it the way they did, is demeaning and trivializing. Everyone tells me what a brilliant speaker Obama was, so I can only assume it was intentional.
The Associated Press used the exact same term after the Notre Dame fire.

This whole thing is just fake outrage and a device conservatives are very practiced at. Make a ridiculous grand conspiracy charge, i.e. liberals hate Christians and then twist yourself into a pretzel to spin everything to support the narrative.

wdmso
04-24-2019, 06:04 PM
So in a nut shell

Scott's internet search cant find Easter worshiper used in a sentence conclusion Hillary's and Obama s Tweet anti Christian

Fisherman reinforces that Easter is a Christian holiday fact... conclusion use of Easter worshiper anti Christian

JIM finds hidden or subliminal message in Easter worshipers conclusion anti Christian

Potus or adulterer in chief aka savior of all things Christian

Fails to mention Christian or Easter in regarding the bombing

The above anti Christian investigators conclusion. On those facts IDK they must still be investigating
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scottw
04-24-2019, 06:27 PM
So in a nut shell

Scott's internet search cant find Easter worshiper used in a sentence conclusion Hillary's and Obama s Tweet anti Christian

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no, they are either stupid or evil...take your pick

scottw
04-24-2019, 06:28 PM
Easter is about the resurrection.

you amaze me with your depth of knowledge sometimes but you forgot bunnies and eggs

spence
04-24-2019, 07:15 PM
you amaze me with your depth of knowledge sometimes but you forgot bunnies and eggs
Sigh
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Jim in CT
04-24-2019, 07:34 PM
And your proof is exactly what? But again Trump never mentioned Christians or Easter and your good with that. I get it
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My proof is, and it's pretty solid as far as proof goes, is that neither Hilary nor Obama has ever once referred to muslims as "Ramadan worshippers".

Either prove me wrong, or admit I'm right, please?

Jim in CT
04-24-2019, 07:43 PM
This whole thing is just fake outrage and a device conservatives are very practiced at. Make a ridiculous grand conspiracy charge, i.e. liberals hate Christians and then twist yourself into a pretzel to spin everything to support the narrative.

"This whole thing is just fake outrage"

So you have the ability to read people's minds. Impressive.

The idiot mayor of South Bend who is running for potus, has publicly said again and again and again (before announcing his run), what a good guy Pence is. But as soon as he declared his run, at that exact nanosecond, he decided Pence was a gay-bashing hatemonger, and has been bashing Pence non-stop,

Now, this mayor went to Harvard and Oxford, and worked at Mackenzie. So we can assume he's sharp. And for some reason, he has concluded it will benefit his campaign in the primary, if he goes on a mission to tell everyone how horrible Pences views on homosexuality are.

So here's my question to you, Spence, is why did this very smart guy, conclude that his popularity among democrats would increase, if he relentlessly bashed Christianity?

Answer...liberals hate christians!!!

And he claims to be a Christian, and expresses that, by embracing late term abortion and by smearing a nice guy. Hooray!!


If you read every history book ever written, you wouldn't find a comparable case of an entire political party so willingly throwing themselves upon the sword. These crazy ideas will play well in places that they will win anyway (CT and CA), if you think that's the way to win in OH, NC, and FL, good for you...

scottw
04-25-2019, 06:14 AM
Easter is about the resurrection. The people there were worshiping the resurrection. Resurrection Worshipers.



.

fixed it...though it sounds just as dumb as Easter worshipers...

Jim in CT
04-25-2019, 06:48 AM
fixed it...though it sounds just as dumb as Easter worshipers...

Correct. Easter is the name given to the day, on which Christians celebrate he resurrection and ascension. We celebrate what we believe took place, not the day.

What matters, is that neither Obama nor Hilary would ever refer to Muslims as Ramadan worshipers. Liberals like Muslims, so they treat them well. Liberals cannot stand true Christians (because of abortion, gay marriage, etc), so we get the middle finger at every opportunity.

wdmso
04-25-2019, 07:01 AM
My proof is, and it's pretty solid as far as proof goes, is that neither Hilary nor Obama has ever once referred to muslims as "Ramadan worshippers".

Either prove me wrong, or admit I'm right, please?

it's not evidence its a conspiracy draw conclusion in your Head AKA a lie why because those people killed were not killed during Ramadan ( Ramadan 2019 in United States will begin in the evening of Sunday, May 5 and ends in the evening of Tuesday, June 4

they were killed during Prayer so of course neither Hilary nor Obama has ever once referred to muslims as "Ramadan worshippers". .. ( is that prove enough how wrong you are?





again why no issues with Trump with mentions of christians or easter

PS here is a Trump fact I am sure you didn't know

U.S. President Donald Trump released an official statement from the White House marking the holiday, "As so many people unite to celebrate Ramadan, Melania and I join in the hope for a blessed month. Ramadan Mubarak." The statement, however, did not appear on either Trump's or the White House's official Twitter accounts - a rare move for the avid social media friendly White House.

he base wouldn't like that. would they

again funny one term is religious the other General


/ˈwərSHəpər/
noun
plural noun: worshipers
a person who shows reverence and adoration for a deity.

cel·e·brate
/ˈseləˌbrāt/

acknowledge (a significant or happy day or event) with a social gathering or enjoyable activity.
"they were celebrating their wedding anniversary at a restaurant"
synonyms: commemorate, observe, honor, mark, salute, recognize, acknowledge, remember, memorialize,


so Trump can say many people unite to celebrate Ramadan is fine

but the Term easter worshipers Bad .. and with that I am done

Jim in CT
04-25-2019, 07:26 AM
Wayne, they referred to muslims as
muslims, as they should
have. when christians were attacked, rather than referring to them the same way, obama and hilary invented a new term.

you are the one, not me, who is physically incapable of admitting that someone on their side did something stupid and offensive. Enjoy your denial fest.
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Jim in CT
04-25-2019, 07:27 AM
Wayne, they referred to muslims as
muslims, as they should
have. when christians were attacked, rather than referring to them the same way, obama and hilary invented a new term.

you are the one, not me, who is physically incapable of admitting that someone on their side did something stupid and offensive. Enjoy your denial fest.

for the second time, are you ok with letting inmates have a vote as to whether or not your pension should be funded?
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The Dad Fisherman
04-25-2019, 07:31 AM
/ˈwərSHəpər/
noun
plural noun: worshipers
a person who shows reverence and adoration for a deity.


Is Easter a Deity??


deity noun

English Language Learners Definition of deity
: a god or goddess

scottw
04-25-2019, 07:36 AM
Is Easter a Deity??




these guys really struggle with the basics:spin:

scottw
04-25-2019, 07:41 AM
so Trump can say many people unite to celebrate Ramadan is fine...because it is an accurate statement

but the Term easter worshipers Bad .. because it is dumb and apparently new to the planet as of last week which I guess could be positively labeled "progressive?"


:rollem: just trying to help...I wouldn't if I didn't care about you:jester:

The Dad Fisherman
04-25-2019, 08:00 AM
these guys really struggle with the basics:spin:

I'm thinking a solid "C" in his "English as a Second Language" class

Jim in CT
04-25-2019, 08:47 AM
Is Easter a Deity??


deity noun

English Language Learners Definition of deity
: a god or goddess

bingo.
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Jim in CT
04-25-2019, 08:48 AM
these guys really struggle with the basics:spin:

when your beliefs require you to defy the basics, it’s time to ask some questions about why you believe what you believe.
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Pete F.
04-25-2019, 11:23 AM
Fools led by the right wing media, following blindly as usual.

It takes a true savant of exquisitely attuned grievance collection to read an individual reference to “Easter worshippers” as an attempt to avoid acknowledging Christianity.

The most important and oldest festival of the Christian Church, celebrating the resurrection of Jesus Christ and held (in the Western Church) between March 21 and April 25, on the first Sunday after the first full moon following the northern spring equinox.

“Easter” has no other meaning.

If anything, “Easter worshippers” puts EXTRA emphasis on the religious nature of the attack by pointing out that it happened on a day of special spiritual meaning to victims.
It implies: Not only did you attack Christians, you did it today of all days.

scottw
04-25-2019, 11:59 AM
Fools led by the right wing media, following blindly as usual.

It takes a true savant of exquisitely attuned grievance collection to read an individual reference to “Easter worshippers” as an attempt to avoid acknowledging Christianity.

The most important and oldest festival of the Christian Church, celebrating the resurrection of Jesus Christ and held (in the Western Church) between March 21 and April 25, on the first Sunday after the first full moon following the northern spring equinox.

“Easter” has no other meaning.

If anything, “Easter worshippers” puts EXTRA emphasis on the religious nature of the attack by pointing out that it happened on a day of special spiritual meaning to victims.
It implies: Not only did you attack Christians, you did it today of all days.

that's pretty funny

Got Stripers
04-25-2019, 12:49 PM
This thread can't get any more lame, yes I guess it can.

wdmso
04-25-2019, 03:46 PM
Is Easter a Deity??


deity noun

English Language Learners Definition of deity
: a god or goddess

you guys are even willing to fight the dictionary and its definition of the meaning of worship And I am the one who can't handle the basics ???? :want:

Dictionary
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wor·ship
/ˈwərSHəp/
noun
1.
the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity.
"the worship of God"
synonyms: reverence, revering, worshipping, veneration, venerating, adoration, adoring, -olatry, devotion, praise, thanksgiving, praising, praying to, glorification, glorifying, glory, exaltation, exalting, extolment, extolling, homage, respect, honor, honoring, esteem; More
verb
1.
show reverence and adoration for (a deity); honor with religious rites.
"the Maya built jungle pyramids to worship their gods"
synonyms: revere, reverence, venerate, pay homage to, honor, adore, praise, pray to, bow down before, glorify, exalt, extol; More

scottw
04-25-2019, 05:32 PM
you guys are even willing to fight the dictionary and its definition of the meaning of worship And I am the one who can't handle the basics ???? :want:

Dictionary
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wor·ship
/ˈwərSHəp/
noun
1.
the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity.
"the worship of God"
synonyms: reverence, revering, worshipping, veneration, venerating, adoration, adoring, -olatry, devotion, praise, thanksgiving, praising, praying to, glorification, glorifying, glory, exaltation, exalting, extolment, extolling, homage, respect, honor, honoring, esteem; More
verb
1.
show reverence and adoration for (a deity); honor with religious rites.
"the Maya built jungle pyramids to worship their gods"
synonyms: revere, reverence, venerate, pay homage to, honor, adore, praise, pray to, bow down before, glorify, exalt, extol; More

nice job...you just proved yourself completely wrong...

scottw
04-25-2019, 05:33 PM
This thread can't get any more lame, yes I guess it can.

guess it depends on your disposition...I find it hilarious

The Dad Fisherman
04-25-2019, 09:48 PM
nice job...you just proved yourself completely wrong...

Effing amazing, isn't it?

His superior intellect is mind boggling


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Jim in CT
04-26-2019, 05:56 AM
when you insult someone for the beliefs they hold
most dear, and then make fun of them for saying they don’t appreciate the insult, do you know what you get? Trump in the white house, hilary on a pathetic speaking tour.
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Jim in CT
04-26-2019, 05:57 AM
Effing amazing, isn't it?

His superior intellect is mind boggling


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it is literally amazing. he can’t just say it was a poor choice of words.
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wdmso
04-26-2019, 07:56 AM
If you guys could think for yourselves rather than than being led by your outrage machine what a better world it would be ... but please carry on thinking you've got it all figured out :btu: PS I attached Trump's Tweet on the subject you will notice easter and christians are notably absent.. and also his feelings on easter and also some example of the term Ramadan worshippers in the media

PS Remember, the same people who think Obama is a Muslim also believe Trump is a Christian

Tourists, Easter worshippers lament closure of Notre Dame Fox News)

https://www.foxnews.com/world/tourists-easter-worshippers-lament-closure-of-notre-dame.amp?__twitter_impression=trueNewt Gingrich

@newtgingrich
How do President Obama and Secretary Clinton both come up with Easter worshippers in their tweets about the murders in Sri Lanka? To have both of them use the same term the same day is strange. Is Easter Worshipper the left’s new way to avoid the word Christian? Pathetic

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Christians were attacked yesterday

Christians were murdered on our holiest day of the year

Hundreds of Christians

Not “humanity” not “tourists” not “Easter worshippers”

Christians

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No Obama! They're called Christians not Easter Worshippers!

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The attacks on tourists and Easter worshippers in Sri Lanka are an attack on humanity. On a day devoted to love, redemption, and renewal, we pray for the victims and stand with the people of Sri Lanka.

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Did the DNC put out marching orders or something? They aren’t “Easter worshippers.” They’re Christians. If you want to be specific and not lump in Christians like me who observe the Julian calendar, just say Protestants and Catholics. This is not hard.

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On this holy weekend for many faiths, we must stand united against hatred and violence. I'm praying for everyone affected by today's horrific attacks on Easter worshippers and travelers in Sri Lanka.


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A vehicle attacks Ramadan worshippers near a London mosque: What we know https://usat.ly/2sGxlWQ #FinsburyPark

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Ten people were injured in the incident.

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Several injured after vehicle rams Ramadan worshippers leaving London mosque http://religionnews.com/2017/06/18/several-injured-after-vehicle-rams-people-leaving-london-mosque/ …

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https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2019/04/22/conservative-outrage-over-obama-and-clinton-easter-worshippers-tweets-just-latest-phony-right-wing/223532

Sea Dangles
04-26-2019, 08:11 AM
Looks like you are the one who has it figured out. Wow,what a smart fella.
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Jim in CT
04-26-2019, 08:56 AM
WDMSO doesn't like it when I am outraged. But it's not similar outrage, when you post about Trump? Why is your outrage, more valid than mine, exactly?

wdmso
04-26-2019, 03:20 PM
WDMSO doesn't like it when I am outraged. But it's not similar outrage, when you post about Trump? Why is your outrage, more valid than mine, exactly?

I have no issues with you being outraged its when you spew outrage of your own making or when told to


Id rather base my outrage on actually things Trump has done and said

not imaginary ones

wdmso
04-26-2019, 03:22 PM
Looks like you are the one who has it figured out. Wow,what a smart fella.
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Facts and actual real statements and research tend to do that .. you should give it a try sometime :kewl:

Sea Dangles
04-26-2019, 03:43 PM
Facts and actual real statements and research tend to do that .. you should give it a try sometime :kewl:

Is it the same research that informed you that tuition is the cheapest part of college? Because that must be some type of source that keeps you up to date.🤦🏽#^&♂️
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Jim in CT
04-26-2019, 04:13 PM
I have no issues with you being outraged its when you spew outrage of your own making or when told to


Id rather base my outrage on actually things Trump has done and said

not imaginary ones

"its when you spew outrage of your own making "

Isn't all outrage of one's own making? You and I can both choose not to be outraged by what we see. Again, it's valid when you go on an anti-Trump rant, but not when I criticize Obama and Hilary. Why not just say it? Can't you be honest, and say that outrage is only valid if it's aimed at conservatives? Obviously that's what you believe.

"or when told to "

Oh. And who do I get my instructions from?

WDMSO, for the millionth time, I disagree with conservatives on some big issues - gay marriage, the death penalty. We would all like to know, on what bog issues, you disagree with liberals on? Let's see, between you and I, who is the thoughtless partisan, and who thinks for himself? Can we do that once and for all?

"Id rather base my outrage on actually things Trump has done and said "

I'm making this up? Obama and Hilary didn't say easter worshippers?

You're all over the place, and not making a ton of sense.

The Dad Fisherman
04-26-2019, 05:49 PM
I’m not outraged, I’m just amazed I have to argue this much over facts and the English language
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wdmso
04-27-2019, 09:15 AM
Is it the same research that informed you that tuition is the cheapest part of college? Because that must be some type of source that keeps you up to date.🤦🏽#^&♂️
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Bridgewater's state university
Tution 8400
Books room and board 15,300
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detbuch
04-27-2019, 09:39 AM
Bridgewater's state university
Tution 8400
Books room and board 15,300
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So you picked a low end tuition college, and you added the cost of two separate items to stack up against tuition. Most state colleges charge state residents the basic tuition and charge out-of-staters much more. And many of the in-staters don't have to pay room and board because they can live at home.

"The average cost of tuition and fees for the 2018–2019 school year was $35,676 at private colleges, $9,716 for state residents at public colleges and $21,629 for out-of-state students at state schools, according to data reported to U.S. News in an annual survey."

Most of the big, well known universities, including the big state colleges, have many out of state students because the influence that a degree from one of them is greater than that of the small colleges.

BTW, most people consider the total costs, including books and room and board as the actual tuition cost. Especially books. The Professors have a racket going of mandating that specific books are required for their courses, so books are part of the learning process for which tuition is charged. And, by coincidence, the books are often written by the professors who get a royalty from the sales.

The differentiation of fees is a way of making "tuition" appear cheaper. The necessity of paying all fees is the actual cost. The differing fees are distinctions without a difference. The whole package is the price of being educated. It's like the advertisements for the price of a new car. By the time you add up the "fees" the actual price of the car is considerably more.

Sea Dangles
04-27-2019, 09:53 AM
[QUOTE=wdmso;1166344]Bridgewater's state university
Tution 8400
Books room and board 15,300
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Silly me
I guess you are right again.
Smart fella I tell ya.
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detbuch
04-27-2019, 05:20 PM
Bridgewater's state university
Tution 8400
Books room and board 15,300
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What you did was very disingenuous. Out of all the most considered schools in Massachusetts, you picked the only one that seemed to support what you say. All the others totally debunk what you say. Tuition and fees far outweigh not only the other individual costs, but even their total costs. See chart below:

2019 Tuition, Fees, and Living Costs Comparison Between Most Considered Schools in Massachusetts

School Name
Tuition & Fees
Cost Per Credit Hour
Books & Supplies
Living Costs
In-State
Out-of-State
In-State
Out-of-State
On Campus
Off Campus

Boston CollegeChestnut Hill, MA
$55,464
-
$1,976
$1,250
$16,378
$13,000

Boston UniversityBoston, MA
$53,948
-
$1,650
$1,000
$17,670
$17,670

Brandeis UniversityWaltham, MA
$55,395
-
$1,664
$1,000
$16,940
$13,500

Bridgewater State UniversityBridgewater, MA
$10,367
$16,507
$405
$661
$800
$15,644
$15,844

Harvard UniversityCambridge, MA
$50,420
-
$1,448
$1,000
$20,230
-

Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyCambridge, MA
Tuition Information is not available

Northeastern UniversityBoston, MA
$51,522
-
$1,577
$1,000
$18,070
$18,680

Suffolk UniversityBoston, MA
$38,566
-
$1,130
$1,200
$18,105
$21,076

Tufts UniversityMedford, MA
$56,382
-
$1,724
$1,000
$16,118
$16,118

Williams CollegeWilliamstown, MA
$55,450
-
$1,838
$800
$16,950
-

Average
$10,367
$48,184
$405
$1,519
$1,006
$17,345
$16,555
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*The data for academic year 2018-2019 is from IPEDS (The Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System),U.S. Department of Education.
**Information is not available for schools that are not appeared in the table. The schools have not report the information to the IPEDS or not applicable.)

Plus everyone has "living costs" regardless of whether they attend school or not. So the total for living costs, room and board, etc. does not account for what the costs would be even if school was not attended.

wdmso
04-28-2019, 07:35 AM
So you picked a low end tuition college, and you added the cost of two separate items to stack up against tuition. Most state colleges charge state residents the basic tuition and charge out-of-staters much more. And many of the in-staters don't have to pay room and board because they can live at home.

"The average cost of tuition and fees for the 2018–2019 school year was $35,676 at private colleges, $9,716 for state residents at public colleges and $21,629 for out-of-state students at state schools, according to data reported to U.S. News in an annual survey."

Most of the big, well known universities, including the big state colleges, have many out of state students because the influence that a degree from one of them is greater than that of the small colleges.

BTW, most people consider the total costs, including books and room and board as the actual tuition cost. Especially books. The Professors have a racket going of mandating that specific books are required for their courses, so books are part of the learning process for which tuition is charged. And, by coincidence, the books are often written by the professors who get a royalty from the sales.

The differentiation of fees is a way of making "tuition" appear cheaper. The necessity of paying all fees is the actual cost. The differing fees are distinctions without a difference. The whole package is the price of being educated. It's like the advertisements for the price of a new car. By the time you add up the "fees" the actual price of the car is considerably more.

its called the cost of college.. I can't help that you see listing one price against listing another another price and comparing the 2 or because its a State school as disegunious.. for my experience tuition is one piece with a a price Tag
and living and books and food and credit hours are another ...


most people consider the total costs, including books and room and board as the actual tuition cost. that's great but that would be wrong ..

wdmso
04-28-2019, 07:52 AM
What you did was very disingenuous. Out of all the most considered schools in Massachusetts, you picked the only one that seemed to support what you say. All the others totally debunk what you say. Tuition and fees far outweigh not only the other individual costs, but even their total costs. See chart below:

2019 Tuition, Fees, and Living Costs Comparison Between Most Considered Schools in Massachusetts

School Name
Tuition & Fees
Cost Per Credit Hour
Books & Supplies
Living Costs
In-State
Out-of-State
In-State
Out-of-State
On Campus
Off Campus

Boston CollegeChestnut Hill, MA
$55,464
-
$1,976
$1,250
$16,378
$13,000

Boston UniversityBoston, MA
$53,948
-
$1,650
$1,000
$17,670
$17,670

Brandeis UniversityWaltham, MA
$55,395
-
$1,664
$1,000
$16,940
$13,500

Bridgewater State UniversityBridgewater, MA
$10,367
$16,507
$405
$661
$800
$15,644
$15,844

Harvard UniversityCambridge, MA
$50,420
-
$1,448
$1,000
$20,230
-

Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyCambridge, MA
Tuition Information is not available

Northeastern UniversityBoston, MA
$51,522
-
$1,577
$1,000
$18,070
$18,680

Suffolk UniversityBoston, MA
$38,566
-
$1,130
$1,200
$18,105
$21,076

Tufts UniversityMedford, MA
$56,382
-
$1,724
$1,000
$16,118
$16,118

Williams CollegeWilliamstown, MA
$55,450
-
$1,838
$800
$16,950
-

Average
$10,367
$48,184
$405
$1,519
$1,006
$17,345
$16,555
Number of schools to show 1 of 1 Pages Prev Next
*The data for academic year 2018-2019 is from IPEDS (The Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System),U.S. Department of Education.
**Information is not available for schools that are not appeared in the table. The schools have not report the information to the IPEDS or not applicable.)

Plus everyone has "living costs" regardless of whether they attend school or not. So the total for living costs, room and board, etc. does not account for what the costs would be even if school was not attended.


Because State schools were they only way my kids were going to go to college

its the same reason my Boats a Sea Hunt its not what I want its what i could afford

scottw
04-28-2019, 07:58 AM
tuition is one piece with a a price Tag
and living and books and food and credit hours are another ...




wouldn't tuition, books and credit hours be one piece

and living and food be another as the first are mandatory for a college education the second is something you choose to do if you want the college to feed and water and house your student...there are options

Sea Dangles
04-28-2019, 08:40 AM
Because State schools were they only way my kids were going to go to college

its the same reason my Boats a Sea Hunt its not what I want its what i could afford

I guess that in your unique case that tuition may have been the least costly portion of your children’s college education but I would hardly describe that as the norm. In my unique case that is far from being close to the truth. I am hoping my decision to not shop at the bargain store will give my children more opportunities and I will wait until graduation to pursue my dream boat. Good Luck.
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wdmso
04-29-2019, 02:08 PM
I guess that in your unique case that tuition may have been the least costly portion of your children’s college education but I would hardly describe that as the norm. In my unique case that is far from being close to the truth. I am hoping my decision to not shop at the bargain store will give my children more opportunities and I will wait until graduation to pursue my dream boat. Good Luck.
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Not exactly sure how I should read that?

detbuch
04-29-2019, 03:57 PM
I can't help that you see listing one price against listing another another price and comparing the 2 or because its a State school as disegunious..

Maybe I'm giving you too much credit. You've told us in several past posts that we need to look at the big picture. You didn't say that your statement "Free Tuition sounds great until you understand its the cheapest part of going to school.." was merely your personal experience with one school. So, without that significant qualification, it came across as a comment on the "big picture." Since the big picture, which your past posts indicate you adhere to, differs from your personal experience, it would seem that you were being disingenuous.

But, maybe, rather than really caring about the big picture to which you want others to pay attention, you see things through a more narrow lens.


for my experience tuition is one piece with a a price Tag
and living and books and food and credit hours are another ...


Living expenses exist whether you go to school or not. They could be higher or lower for non-students. They are not, essentially, a cost of going to school. And most students who go to schools in their driving distance locality incur few, if any, any "living costs" because of school attendance. Those out-of-staters or out of locality would have living costs if they didn't go to school.

I don't know how those who campaign on free college figure in such things as living expenses or the different prices for different schools, and who gets to go to which schools. If our tax money pays, then many might be upset that others get to go to a better school on their dime than their children can. I suppose the federal government could just take over the whole education system and make all schools equal in quality and price.

PaulS
04-29-2019, 04:24 PM
Not exactly sure how I should read that?

I probably. Read it the same way as you.
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spence
04-29-2019, 04:29 PM
I probably. Read it the same way as you.
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Dude, it's "I probably, read it the same way as you."

Step it up.

The Dad Fisherman
04-29-2019, 08:25 PM
Dude, it's "I probably, read it the same way as you."

Step it up.

"I, probably, read it the same way as you." :hee:
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