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scottw
05-02-2019, 04:03 AM
Providence Mayor Jorge Elorza said washing machines could help solve the city's problem with chronic student absenteeism. The city said some students may choose to stay home instead of coming to school in dirty clothes and being bullied.

During his budget address Tuesday night, Elorza said he wants to introduce a $50,000 program to bring washers and dryers to city schools.

Providence City Spokeswoman Emily Crowell said the city plans to do a survey to figure out exactly which schools need washing machines and how many are needed.


the Mayor must be getting a kickback from Kenmore:uhuh:

RIROCKHOUND
05-02-2019, 05:31 AM
Providence Mayor Jorge Elorza said washing machines could help solve the city's problem with chronic student absenteeism. The city said some students may choose to stay home instead of coming to school in dirty clothes and being bullied.

During his budget address Tuesday night, Elorza said he wants to introduce a $50,000 program to bring washers and dryers to city schools.

Providence City Spokeswoman Emily Crowell said the city plans to do a survey to figure out exactly which schools need washing machines and how many are needed.


the Mayor must be getting a kickback from Kenmore:uhuh:

For what it's worth, this has been done in some other districts around the country with some success. I think it was a 60 minutes piece, but I could be misremembering where I saw it.

scottw
05-02-2019, 05:56 AM
For what it's worth, this has been done in some other districts around the country with some success. I think it was a 60 minutes piece, but I could be misremembering where I saw it.

"success" in a leftist view of success.....maybe they need a car wash too:laugha::huh:

RIROCKHOUND
05-02-2019, 06:24 AM
"success" in a leftist view of success.....maybe they need a car wash too:laugha::huh:

Success in that if they get more kids, who either from lack of means or support at home to matriculate through and graduate and become productive members of society.
Or just be snarky. Whatever works for you.

Nebe
05-02-2019, 06:35 AM
To think that there was once a time when children were going to and from school hungry. And then the lunch program was started. I bet there were a lot of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s that thought that was a joke too.
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scottw
05-02-2019, 06:58 AM
To think that there was once a time when children were going to and from school hungry. And then the lunch program was started. I bet there were a lot of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s that thought that was a joke too.
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if the schools are going to perform all of the parents duties, what are the parents going to do??? if parents aren't feeding their children or are sending them to school in dirty clothes that is child abuse...when do the parents ever get held accountable??? Do children who grow up with the school feeding them and washing their clothes and counseling them in every way then expect schools to do the same for their children?

Nebe
05-02-2019, 07:16 AM
if the schools are going to perform all of the parents duties, what are the parents going to do??? if parents aren't feeding their children or are sending them to school in dirty clothes that is child abuse...when do the parents ever get held accountable??? Do children who grow up with the school feeding them and washing their clothes and counseling them in every way then expect schools to do the same for their children?

There’s a word in the dictionary called “empathy”. You should look it up and try to practice it.
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scottw
05-02-2019, 07:31 AM
There’s a word in the dictionary called “empathy”. You should look it up and try to practice it.
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there's another "e" word called enabling.....

The Dad Fisherman
05-02-2019, 07:48 AM
There’s a word in the dictionary called “empathy”. You should look it up and try to practice it.
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How about organizing a fund raiser to pay for them? When did empathy require tax dollars? Get the people involved who would like to see these in the schools.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--19AR-VCP--/c_fit,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18uotlm4ra3kwjpg.jpg

wdmso
05-02-2019, 07:53 AM
Outraged over Easter worshipers outraged over wahing. Machines school lunches.. outrage over abortion. When it comes to looking after their fellow man they are Christian in name only .

Guess we need to close all the food banks and church kitchens .. to stop these enablers from interfering in MAGA
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scottw
05-02-2019, 07:58 AM
which democrat candidate will come out in favor of "Universal Laundry"?:happy:

The Dad Fisherman
05-02-2019, 07:58 AM
Outraged over Easter worshipers outraged over wahing. Machines school lunches.. outrage over abortion. When it comes to looking after their fellow man they are Christian in name only .

Guess we need to close all the food banks and church kitchens .. to stop these enablers from interfering in MAGA
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Oh look, the short bus has pulled up

Nebe
05-02-2019, 08:01 AM
You people are effed up.
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JohnR
05-02-2019, 08:06 AM
To think that there was once a time when children were going to and from school hungry. And then the lunch program was started. I bet there were a lot of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s that thought that was a joke too.
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Yet kids still go to school hungry. It is not the kids' fault, it is the parents responsibility though.

It is embarrassing as hell to go to school dirty and disheveled. And hungry and poor.

I am not opposed to these solutions to these problems but one of the main problems in many (but not all) cases, poor parenting, never gets well addressed. Slippery slope. You can have good parents you can have loving parents and if you are lucky, you have two good and loving parents. A lot of these kids simply don't.

Wayne will say it is Conservative's fault.

Got Stripers
05-02-2019, 09:10 AM
Parenting is going downhill, evidences everywhere
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JohnR
05-02-2019, 09:13 AM
Parenting is going downhill, evidences everywhere
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"evidence is everywhere" Hahaha, couldn't resist.

Yes it is, though far more often it impacts people with a worse start than the people with a better start. Of course, this is how the cycle repeats.

Got Stripers
05-02-2019, 09:28 AM
English police isn’t your primary roll, there are those that revel in correcting grammar, you should leave that to the “experts”
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The Dad Fisherman
05-02-2019, 09:29 AM
"evidence is everywhere" Hahaha, couldn't resist.

Yes it is, though far more often it impacts people with a worse start than the people with a better start. Of course, this is how the cycle repeats.

and you're not allowed to discuss the root causes of these social problems, else be labeled an "ist" or a "phobe".....or a MAGconservlican

wdmso
05-02-2019, 01:49 PM
and you're not allowed to discuss the root causes of these social problems, else be labeled an "ist" or a "phobe".....or a MAGconservlican

theses root problems have been root problems for just about forever ..at least since the 50's

PS Blame isn't , the same as discussing the issue... but for many here Blaming is the only part of the discussion they wish to participate in :jump:

scottw
05-02-2019, 02:04 PM
theses root problems have been root problems for just about forever ..at least since the 50's



poetic

The Dad Fisherman
05-02-2019, 02:13 PM
PS Blame isn't , the same as discussing the issue... but for many here Blaming is the only part of the discussion they wish to participate in :jump:

Thank You for finally coming to terms with that, the first step to recovery is admitting there is a problem.

now if you could just get Spence, Pete, and Paul onboard with that, you guys could have a weekly meeting. I hear the "Y" has good coffee

Pete F.
05-02-2019, 08:08 PM
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PaulS
05-03-2019, 07:21 AM
empathy
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Or lack of empathy

PaulS
05-03-2019, 07:24 AM
now if you could just get Spence, Pete, and Paul onboard with that, you guys could have a weekly meeting. I hear the "Y" has good coffee

Haven't had coffee in years. Drink the occasional tea now. Came in from a snotty cold night on BI a few years ago in my wetsuit and the guy I was with asked if I wanted black tea to warm me up. It was delicious. Highly recommend it.

Nebe
05-03-2019, 08:21 AM
Or lack of empathy

What would Jesus say about today’s conservatives?
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detbuch
05-03-2019, 09:04 AM
What would Jesus say about today’s conservatives?
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Same thing that he would say to or about Progressives. Something like "Render therefore to Trump the things that are Trump's; and to God, the things that are God’s,"

DZ
05-03-2019, 09:36 AM
Public school systems are a mess. Taxpayers have dumped tons of money into them - some programs work, but many don't. Ask any teacher in communities that have problems. Major issues are disruptive children in the learning environment and student absenteeism. School administrations hands are tied when they try to boot disruptive kids out of school and hold parents/guardians responsible for attendance. It's a very complex problem. Is shouldn't be any surprise why responsible parents/guardians are opting for private school or home schooling.

scottw
05-03-2019, 06:01 PM
Public school systems are a mess. Major issues are disruptive children in the learning environment and student absenteeism. School administrations hands are tied when they try to boot disruptive kids out of school and hold parents/guardians responsible for attendance.

leftists heard about this and are addressing the problem as only leftists can...:biglaugh:

April 23 2019
SACRAMENTO (CBS13) – The California State Senate voted to ban schools and principals from suspending students for “willful defiance” of teachers, staff, and administrators.

The Senate approved SB 419 Monday by a vote of 30-8. It moves to the Assembly next.

wdmso
05-04-2019, 07:55 AM
leftists heard about this and are addressing the problem as only leftists can...:biglaugh:

April 23 2019
SACRAMENTO (CBS13) – The California State Senate voted to ban schools and principals from suspending students for “willful defiance” of teachers, staff, and administrators.

The Senate approved SB 419 Monday by a vote of 30-8. It moves to the Assembly next.
And conservatives are doing what they do best .. nothing. because nothing motivates the base like blaming liberals for all the country's issues .. yet never providing a plan themselves. Unless it has the word cut remove defund ..

Must be nice for conservatives to not have anyone on assistance.. who support their party ...

The party of the fetus... cherished in the womb hated in the light . It's all so transparent..
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detbuch
05-04-2019, 08:20 AM
And conservatives are doing what they do best .. nothing. because nothing motivates the base like blaming liberals for all the country's issues .. yet never providing a plan themselves. Unless it has the word cut remove defund ..

Must be nice for conservatives to not have anyone on assistance.. who support their party ...

The party of the fetus... cherished in the womb hated in the light . It's all so transparent..
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Thanks for the moment of ironic cheer. I have to admit, wrapping up your myopic little rant with "It's all so transparent" made me bust out in a laugh. With a little tweak here or there, you could be a hit on Comedy Central.

wdmso
05-04-2019, 09:01 AM
Thanks for the moment of ironic cheer. I have to admit, wrapping up your myopic little rant with "It's all so transparent" made me bust out in a laugh. With a little tweak here or there, you could be a hit on Comedy Central.

Maybe you can enlighten us all on what plan conservatives have presented and passed that has even attempted to address this issue in recent memory .. funny how you see actual actions or lack of actions as myopic
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detbuch
05-04-2019, 09:24 AM
Maybe you can enlighten us all on what plan conservatives have presented and passed that has even attempted to address this issue in recent memory .. funny how you see actual actions or lack of actions as myopic
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I am not familiar with Providence's political plans, or whether Providence Republicans have ever, as you say, done "nothing", or blame "liberals for all the country's issues" (or if they do, how that differs from any Democrat view on blaming Republicans).

But saying that Republicans never provide a plan themselves unless it has the word cut remove defund (which are not necessarily bad things), or to infer that conservatives oppose anyone being on assistance, is obviously untrue.

And "The party of the fetus"--really? Are Democrats against the fetus? Is it some noble thing to oppose the fetus?

And "cherished in the womb hated in the light"--come on man, do I really have to point out that conservatives do not hate those who are born. They certainly don't want to abort those who would eventually be "in the light."

Then claiming that everything you said is all transparent is ironic. What is transparent is your bias.

scottw
05-04-2019, 09:51 AM
Maybe you can enlighten us all on what plan conservatives have presented and passed that has even attempted to address this issue in recent memory .. funny how you see actual actions or lack of actions as myopic
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why is it the conservatives'(or government's for that matter) job to present and pass stuff to address this issue....??

scottw
05-04-2019, 09:54 AM
And "The party of the fetus"--really? Are Democrats against the fetus? Is it some noble thing to oppose the fetus?



republicans are only in favor of the rich fetus's's's':heybaby:

the left is riding the crazy train straight to 2020...chooochoooo

JohnR
05-04-2019, 10:59 AM
English police isn’t your primary roll, there are those that revel in correcting grammar, you should leave that to the “experts”
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I type as a third language - does that make my Xenoscriptic?

theses root problems have been root problems for just about forever ..at least since the 50's

PS Blame isn't , the same as discussing the issue... but for many here Blaming is the only part of the discussion they wish to participate in :jump:

2050 BC

And conservatives are doing what they do best .. nothing. because nothing motivates the base like blaming liberals for all the country's issues .. yet never providing a plan themselves. Unless it has the word cut remove defund ..

Must be nice for conservatives to not have anyone on assistance.. who support their party ...

The party of the fetus... cherished in the womb hated in the light . It's all so transparent..
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People on assistance tend not vote for the party that wants to limit assistance.

We need assistance for our people, but how much is right and how much effort should be made to gain that assistance? And it is a hand up.

I have benefited from that assistance

wdmso
05-04-2019, 09:03 PM
I type as a third language - does that make my Xenoscriptic?



2050 BC




People on assistance tend not vote for the party that wants to limit assistance. ( they dont tend to Vote at all )

We need assistance for our people, but how much is right and how much effort should be made to gain that assistance? And it is a hand up.

I have benefited from that assistance


parents should be responsible for the care of their children not all are positioned to care for them that's just the hard Truth (not from a lack of trying ).. And cutting assistance just doesn't impact the adults .. and that where finding a balance gets twisted.. Some focus on the Adults but #^&#^&#^&#^& rolls down hill .. not everyone who gets assistance stays on assistance .. But thats fake news to a lot of people on both sides ..

We have to ask ourselves with unemployment the lowest in lowest since 1969 why hasn't this helped . here is some info .The increase in hiring was concentrated at white-collar businesses, construction and health care. The only sector to suffer a big drawback was retail, (guess who mostly works retail low skilled people )

I wish I had the Answer ... clearly cutting everything or giving everything won't work on their own ... but while we look for the sweet spot .. nothing changes and the wheel keeps rolling

wdmso
05-05-2019, 06:50 AM
why is it the conservatives'(or government's for that matter) job to present and pass stuff to address this issue....??

Why is it conservatives (or governments for that matter) job to present and pass stuff to address the issue of abortion??? ( an issues that impacts far fewer people )

It's just funny when the right wants government and when they don't
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scottw
05-05-2019, 09:36 AM
Why is it conservatives (or governments for that matter) job to present and pass stuff to address the issue of abortion??? ( an issues that impacts far fewer people )

It's just funny when the right wants government and when they don't
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Because a life is extinguished in an abortion. Not sure anyone ever died from unwashed clothes. The Constitution protects life. It does not mention dirty clothes. Is that simple enough?
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detbuch
05-05-2019, 10:03 AM
Because a life is extinguished in an abortion. Not sure anyone ever died from unwashed clothes. The Constitution protects life. It does not mention dirty clothes. Is that simple enough?
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Scott, for wdmso the Constitution does not resolve any issue. For him, it is living-breathing (perhaps in a personal self constructed oxygen tent). It can be "interpreted" whichever way you think is proper either to suit a political view of "the time," or to fit your personal perspective.

That is, it is basically irrelevant.

Got Stripers
05-05-2019, 12:36 PM
Scott, for wdmso the Constitution does not resolve any issue. For him, it is living-breathing (perhaps in a personal self constructed oxygen tent). It can be "interpreted" whichever way you think is proper either to suit a political view of "the time," or to fit your personal perspective.

That is, it is basically irrelevant.
You could say the same for Trump.
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wdmso
05-05-2019, 02:17 PM
Because a life is extinguished in an abortion. Not sure anyone ever died from unwashed clothes. The Constitution protects life. It does not mention dirty clothes. Is that simple enough?
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Wow your grasping at straws now

wdmso
05-05-2019, 02:38 PM
Scott, for wdmso the Constitution does not resolve any issue. For him, it is living-breathing (perhaps in a personal self constructed oxygen tent). It can be "interpreted" whichever way you think is proper either to suit a political view of "the time," or to fit your personal perspective.

That is, it is basically irrelevant.


the the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are not the same thing

The Constitution protects life No it does not ... omg what a fabrication now we're using the Constitution as an abortion argument
amazing


The way to conform the Constitution more closely to natural law is not to pretend it means what it does not mean. The way to conform the Constitution more closely to natural law is to duly amend it.)


I guess Trump is once again the carrier of the truth

With a late-term abortion, "the mother meets with the doctor. They take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully. And then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby."
— Donald Trump on Saturday, April 27th, 2019 in a rally in Green Bay, Wis

detbuch
05-05-2019, 10:37 PM
the the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are not the same thing

Duh! Neither is Article One of the Constitution the same thing as Article Two. Nor is the Constitution of Michigan the same thing as the Constitution of the United States.

The Declaration and The Constitution are different facets of our "organic" law. The Constitution is the formal written code that declares the rights and duties of government; the Declaration contains our foundational principles, as in this from Quora:


" the Constitution, the Declaration, the Articles of Confederation and the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 have been declared by Congress to comprise this nation’s Organic Law. Notice that, as Organic Law, the Declaration is an equal partner with the Constitution, there is no “hierarchy” of organic law.
Black’s Law Dictionary defines organic law as: 'The fundamental law, or constitution, of a state or nation, written or unwritten; that law or system of laws or principles which defines and establishes the organization of its government.'
In GULF, C. & S. F. R. CO. v. ELLIS , 165 U.S. 150 (1897) - See more at: FindLaw's United States Supreme Court case and opinions, the Supreme Court declared the Declaration to be the 'thought and the spirit of our government' while the Constitution, they said, contained the 'body and letter.' ”


So the principles of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as well as all unalienable rights to which we are endowed by our creator, as announced in the Declaration are part of the organic law of this nation.

The Constitution protects life No it does not ... omg what a fabrication now we're using the Constitution as an abortion argument
amazing


The Constitution protects our unalienable rights among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It does so, not by specifically referring to the Declaration, but by limiting the Federal Government to a few powers that can infringe our natural rights only in the limited way prescribed by the enumerations in the Constitution. There is no Constitutional enumeration which embodies a government power to legitimize the taking of an innocent life. So yes, the Constitution does protect life.

scottw
05-06-2019, 05:13 AM
check the RI Constitution Section 2 as well :1poke:

can't find anything in there on laundry

wdmso
05-06-2019, 07:26 AM
The Constitution protects our unalienable rights among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It does so, not by specifically referring to the Declaration, but by limiting the Federal Government to a few powers that can infringe our natural rights only in the limited way prescribed by the enumerations in the Constitution. There is no Constitutional enumeration which embodies a government power to legitimize the taking of an innocent life. So yes, the Constitution does protect life.

No it does not your making stuff up .. and selling as if thats what it actually says .. or settled law ..

funny the anti gun lobby attempted to use the same argument for the victims of gun crime ... life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. but feel on deft ears

settled Law

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113, is a landmark decision issued in 1973 by the United States Supreme Court on the issue of the constitutionality of laws that criminalized or restricted access to abortions.

detbuch
05-06-2019, 08:44 AM
No it does not your making stuff up .. and selling as if thats what it actually says .. or settled law ..

funny the anti gun lobby attempted to use the same argument for the victims of gun crime ... life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. but feel on deft ears

settled Law

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113, is a landmark decision issued in 1973 by the United States Supreme Court on the issue of the constitutionality of laws that criminalized or restricted access to abortions.

I didn't make anything up. Everything I said is true and on the record.

You stated that the Constitution does not protect life. Specifically, it protects human life. Abortion is made legal on a conjured basis that the "fetus" is not fully developed human life before a specified amount of time.

scottw
05-06-2019, 09:26 AM
.. or settled law ..



Wayne...are you OK with the current Supreme Court...or better yet...the near future Supreme court with another Trump appointee or two creating "settled law"?

wdmso
05-06-2019, 01:27 PM
Wayne...are you OK with the current Supreme Court...or better yet...the near future Supreme court with another Trump appointee or two creating "settled law"?

isn't that how it works ?

scottw
05-06-2019, 01:39 PM
isn't that how it works ?

you really need a refresher course :smash: