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Pete F.
06-17-2019, 12:25 PM
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In order to get elected, @BarackObama will start a war with Iran.

11:48 AM - 29 Nov 2011

If Trump/Bolton were to start a war with Iran, given the wonderful relationships he has developed, we'll have North Korea, the Philippines, Brazil, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Hungary and Poland in our court.

Meanwhile Russia, China, the EU and most other developed countries would gladly hold firm on the negotiated agreement and some will be happy when Trump gets the dollar out of it's position as the world's preferred currency.

So, just what is the stable genius's plan to get out of this, is it in his pocket on a piece of paper, or maybe it's in his gut?

Jim in CT
06-17-2019, 12:28 PM
He’s in a pickle.. No doubt. But he didn’t create the mess with Iran.

Your footer or whatever, says Trump is only the president of “his” people. Funny that black unemployment is the lowest ever, and Trump celebrated that at the SOTU, and the people from
the party that claims
to care about blacks, all sat there miserable.
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The Dad Fisherman
06-17-2019, 12:36 PM
Your footer or whatever, says Trump is only the president of “his” people.
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It's also "Fake News"

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

spence
06-17-2019, 12:40 PM
It's also "Fake News"

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history
The 50% approval threshold is generally seen as an average, not a single poll. That being said, Rasmussen is considered one of the less reliable anyway.

Pete F.
06-17-2019, 12:45 PM
If you look at more than one poll he doesn't fare so well
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

The Dad Fisherman
06-17-2019, 12:55 PM
If you look at more than one poll he doesn't fare so well
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Maybe if you look at the definition of NEVER you see you don't fare so well. Obviously he doesn't meet that definition as he has reached that milestone on at least one poll.

like I said "Fake News"

Pete F.
06-17-2019, 01:14 PM
He’s in a pickle.. No doubt. But he didn’t create the mess with Iran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uylzYNH5NCc

Your footer or whatever, says Trump is only the president of “his” people. Funny that black unemployment is the lowest ever, and Trump celebrated that at the SOTU, and the people from
the party that claims
to care about blacks, all sat there miserable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzQ1oZg51jY
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With that logic, all the Republicans should have clapped just because Obama was black.

Pete F.
06-17-2019, 01:29 PM
Maybe if you look at the definition of NEVER you see you don't fare so well. Obviously he doesn't meet that definition as he has reached that milestone on at least one poll.

like I said "Fake News"

Fixed it for you, then I conducted a quick poll.
100% said Trump is on his way to impeachment.
My methodology might have a few issues, but I got an answer that makes some people happy.
Poll said "Trump on his way to Impeachment"
:bgi:

Pete F.
06-17-2019, 02:47 PM
Your footer or whatever, says Trump is only the president of “his” people. Funny that black unemployment is the lowest ever, and Trump celebrated that at the SOTU, and the people from
the party that claims
to care about blacks, all sat there miserable.
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You better tell his black constituency too, Trump's job approval among non-whites was 23% in the latest CNN-SSRS national poll.
Maybe they see that the difference between minority unemployment and white unemployment is still the same as it was prior to Trump.

Jim in CT
06-17-2019, 03:02 PM
You better tell his black constituency too, Trump's job approval among non-whites was 23% in the latest CNN-SSRS national poll.
Maybe they see that the difference between minority unemployment and white unemployment is still the same as it was prior to Trump.

i am well aware that republicans poll poorly with blacks.

But you are proving my point, that your little footer there is bullsh*t. if what you said ( trump
is only the president of “his” people), why has he enacted policies that lowered black unemployment to the lowest ever, and why did he celebrate that at the state of the union? Answer - despite the fact that they aren’t “his” people, he cares about their well being.
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Jim in CT
06-17-2019, 03:06 PM
the difference between minority unemployment and white unemployment is still the same as it was prior to Trump.

And that's what matters, the spread in unemployment?

So if black unemployment increased, but it improved relative to white unemployment (let's say white unemployment increased more)...is that a better outcome than lowest black unemployment ever?

You can't admit he's doing a good job with black unemployment, you can't even admit that.


How is the stock market doing under Trump's leadership, is it crashing like Paul Krugman said it would?

spence
06-17-2019, 05:19 PM
You better tell his black constituency too, Trump's job approval among non-whites was 23% in the latest CNN-SSRS national poll.
Maybe they see that the difference between minority unemployment and white unemployment is still the same as it was prior to Trump.
Those polls don’t exist, they never existed. Trump’s approval among non-whites is actually like 113% and growing.
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Jim in CT
06-17-2019, 06:25 PM
Those polls don’t exist, they never existed. Trump’s approval among non-whites is actually like 113% and growing.
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did
anyone deny his pills are awful
among blacks? denying that, would be as bonkers as, well, claiming biden didn’t politicize
curing cancer...
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Got Stripers
06-17-2019, 06:40 PM
What not grammar police jumping on that one, it was a pill of a post.
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detbuch
06-17-2019, 06:58 PM
What not grammar police jumping on that one, it was a pill of a post.
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You just did.

Sea Dangles
06-17-2019, 08:40 PM
Typical snowflake will tell you something is wrong. Then they do it and call it spite.
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Pete F.
06-17-2019, 09:39 PM
Fox News polls say 50% of voters say trump should be impeached
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detbuch
06-17-2019, 10:34 PM
Fox News polls say 50% of voters say trump should be impeached
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:claps::claps::claps::claps::claps::claps::claps:: claps::claps::claps::claps::claps:

Got Stripers
06-18-2019, 07:12 AM
Typical snowflake will tell you something is wrong. Then they do it and call it spite.
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I was afraid the spelling police had fallen and couldn’t get up🤪
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Duke41
06-18-2019, 08:41 AM
I love Trump and can't wait to vote for him again. The best leader this country has had since Franklin Rosevelt.

Got Stripers
06-18-2019, 01:06 PM
Loved the quote from Fl largest paper, coming out to state they will back anyone but Trump. Quote says it all.

The Sentinel dubbed Trump’s “successful assault on truth” as “the great casualty of this presidency, followed closely by his war on decency” and said the commander in chief “has diminished our standing in the world.”
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Jim in CT
06-18-2019, 01:20 PM
Loved the quote from Fl largest paper, coming out to state they will back anyone but Trump. Quote says it all.

The Sentinel dubbed Trump’s “successful assault on truth” as “the great casualty of this presidency, followed closely by his war on decency” and said the commander in chief “has diminished our standing in the world.”
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yawn. media publication hates him, what a shock. trump
is a jerk, but the country is better off, and where’s the evidence that our global standing has diminished?! do people no longer desperately want to come here?

trump is an assault on decency, but tnat paper is ok with biden promising to cure cancer and suggesting we need a physical, real revolution to deal with republicans, that reeks of decency.

and i think he’s going to get creamed. i think a lot of liberals stayed home in 2016 because everyone in the media said hilary was going to win in a landslide, so people figured why bother. that won’t happen again.


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The Dad Fisherman
06-18-2019, 01:28 PM
i think a lot of liberals stayed home in 2016 because everyone in the media said hilary was going to win in a landslide, so people figured why bother. that won’t happen again.


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I think a lot of them stayed home because they were disillusioned Bernie supporters who just said "fuk it" after all the shenanigans the DNC played to rig the election in her favor.

but, you are correct, they aren't going to stay home this time.

PaulS
06-18-2019, 01:43 PM
Loved the quote from Fl largest paper, coming out to state they will back anyone but Trump. Quote says it all.

The Sentinel dubbed Trump’s “successful assault on truth” as “the great casualty of this presidency, followed closely by his war on decency” and said the commander in chief “has diminished our standing in the world.”
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The Repubs. don't care - use to care but not any more.

Hey, Biden said he'll cure cancer so any vile thing done or said by Trump is ok.

Jim in CT
06-18-2019, 01:58 PM
Hey, Biden said he'll cure cancer so any vile thing done or said by Trump is ok.

assuming that was a swipe at me, wrong. you’re the one who is applying very different standards to who gets called out for saying awful
things.

recently trump lost his temper over a staffer coughing when he was on camera. shows what a jerk
he is.

it would be really nice if we could
have one set of rules for what’s ok
and what’s not, and apply them uniformly to everyone regardless of party. the people here who can’t say anything critical about their own side, and who can’t say anything positive about the other side, are all liberals. and you aren’t one of them.
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Got Stripers
06-18-2019, 02:01 PM
The irony is that if one of their family members behaved like Trump at the weekend cookouts, it would be all over for that member; he or she would likely be read the riot act, or if they didn't change, they would be off the invite list to future family gatherings.

PaulS
06-18-2019, 02:06 PM
assuming that was a swipe at me, wrong. you’re the one who is applying very different standards to who gets called out for saying awful
things.

recently trump lost his temper over a staffer coughing when he was on camera. shows what a jerk
he is.

it would be really nice if we could
have one set of rules for what’s ok
and what’s not, and apply them uniformly to everyone regardless of party. the people here who can’t say anything critical about their own side, and who can’t say anything positive about the other side, are all liberals. and you aren’t one of them.
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I'm not applying different standards but 5?, 6? pages for Biden's comments is crazy when you have Pres. Trump saying vile things on a daily basis. I'm willing to cut anyone some slack a few times but Trump is so bad people ignore comments that would be headlines on the news for any other Pres. And when people do discuss them, what is the reaction from the right - they call them snowflakes.

Jim in CT
06-18-2019, 02:07 PM
The irony is that if one of their family members behaved like Trump at the weekend cookouts, it would be all over for that member; he or she would likely be read the riot act, or if they didn't change, they would be off the invite list to future family gatherings.

you’re right, i wouldn’t want him
in my family. Fortunately for
me, the election wasn’t a contest about which one of them was going to be adopted into my family. The election was to see who would
run the country. it would
be nice if our POTUS was a
man of deep
ethics, but much more important that it be someone who grows the economy and keeps us safe.

the real irony, is that all these trump haters act like morals are all that matters in a presidential contest. didn’t stop you all from endlessly attacking bush and romney, who are deeply ethical men.

no principles. none. just use whatever is available
to bash the republican.

if character was on the ballot in 2016 i missed it.
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Got Stripers
06-18-2019, 02:41 PM
Not sure the economy would have crashed and burned if Hillary had beaten Trump. I'm not in agreement on Trump's policies in numerous arenas, so no I'm not buying he's the savor of the economy or that he is any better when it comes to foreign policies, trade or agreements with allies and foes; long list IMHO. I think his deregulation across the board is going to be bad for the environment long term and I don't believe we should have withdrawn from the Paris accord. I don't see his trade war being the answer, not saying we don't have a balance issue. I think he has made a "problem" at the southern boarder into a real nightmare and the policies are actually killing people and committing child abuse on a massive scale. I think his kissing arse with Putin time and time again, not to mention the 2016 election issues, is a disgrace. In fact pick a foreign strong man/dictator he hasn't cozied up to, while treating our long term allies like crap, really must I go on? You are looking at Trump administration thru rose colored glasses.

Hey how about the fact our president actually can't stop lying ever, I'd like to know there is someone in the white house that I can actually trust that what is coming out of his mouth is 90% true. Please I'm waiting for hey they all do it come back, but Trump's lying is on an epic scale compared to ALL other presidents.

Pete F.
06-18-2019, 02:45 PM
There is no comparison between Trump and any other politician, thankfully. It is necessary that our President be a man with some ethics. A little empathy is also helpful. What is not acceptable is an ignorant buffoon who's word is not good. Some will say he has kept his campaign promises but that is largely limited to those that could be accomplished without the cooperation of others by executive order. He has had minimal legislative success, but is attempting end runs around Congress to make up for his lack of negotiating skill.

The least problematic part is the lack of originality of Donald Trump’s words. During his presidency, Trump has uttered no beautiful and memorable phrases. His inaugural address, is remembered, for the phrase American carnage and Trump’s description of a dystopian nation, broken and shattered. More problematic is that many of Trump’s utterances are babble. If you read the transcript of many of his interviews and off the cuff speeches, you find that Trump is not only unable to often lay out a coherent argument; at times he’s unable to string together sentences that make sense.

When it comes to dealing with those who oppose him, he consistently uses words to demean, belittle, bully, or dehumanize. He has mocked former prisoners of war, the disabled, and the appearance of women. He has attacked Gold Star parents and widows. And he has engaged in racially tinged attacks. The number of his targets is inexhaustible because Trump’s brutishness is inexhaustible.

Many other presidents have been viewed as divisive, but Trump provokes for it's own sake; delighting in turning Americans against one another in order to turn them against one another. He seems to think he gains a political advantage in dividing us.

Trump’s words are bad enough, but the greatest cause for concern is his nonstop, dawn-to-midnight assault on facts, truth, reality. That places Trump in a category all his own.

Many politicians are guilty of not telling the full truth of events. But only very few—and only the most dangerous—are committed to destroying the very idea of truth itself by using the big lie. We saw it Day One of the Trump presidency, when he insisted—and sent out his press secretary to insist—that the crowd size at his inauguration was larger than that of Barack Obama’s, despite photographic evidence to the contrary. And that behavior has continued almost every day since.

He lies at will. He lies all the time. He lies on purpose. He lies as a way of life. He lies about things big & small. He lies with impunity. He lies with the direct intent to distract, fool, and deceive his supporters.

In a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars, Trump said, “And just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.” In other words, who are you going to believe—me or your lyin’ eyes?

Jim in CT
06-18-2019, 02:50 PM
Not sure the economy would have crashed and burned if Hillary had beaten Trump. I'm not in agreement on Trump's policies in numerous arenas, so no I'm not buying he's the savor of the economy or that he is any better when it comes to foreign policies, trade or agreements with allies and foes; long list IMHO. I think his deregulation across the board is going to be bad for the environment long term and I don't believe we should have withdrawn from the Paris accord. I don't see his trade war being the answer, not saying we don't have a balance issue. I think he has made a "problem" at the southern boarder into a real nightmare and the policies are actually killing people and committing child abuse on a massive scale. I think his kissing arse with Putin time and time again, not to mention the 2016 election issues, is a disgrace. In fact pick a foreign strong man/dictator he hasn't cozied up to, while treating our long term allies like crap, really must I go on? You are looking at Trump administration thru rose colored glasses.

Hey how about the fact our president actually can't stop lying ever, I'd like to know there is someone in the white house that I can actually trust that what is coming out of his mouth is 90% true. Please I'm waiting for hey they all do it come back, but Trump's lying is on an epic scale compared to ALL other presidents.

i don’t recall anyone saying the economy would crash and burn under Hilary. What we know, is that it’s roaring under Trump. We also know Paul Krugman said Trump would cause a trash, and he’s still paid to go on MSNBC.

didntbsay he’s better when
it comes to foreign policies. You are the one who posted a link saying our standing in the world
has diminished. I see
zero evidence of that.

you’re saying trumps immigration policies are causing murder and child abuse at the border. People
weren’t getting killed
and abused before trump? the open border doesn’t create the atmosphere for women to get raped
in huge numbers as they cross? Giving preferential treatment to families doesn’t encourage the use of “fake” children to make the crossing with adults who aren’t their parents?
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Got Stripers
06-18-2019, 02:55 PM
You don't "see" evidence of it, but I'd be surprised, no shocked if the leaders of our allies don't see Trump for the fool he is. They may actually I'm afraid, be somewhat concerned about the really good people (foreign policy and defense) Trump has forced out that offered some stability behind the scenes

The flip side of course is his standing in the eyes of our enemies and long time foes has experienced a rise in approval, they too see him as the fool he is and will (have) play him like a fiddle.

Clean those glasses, they are clouding your vision.

Jim in CT
06-18-2019, 02:56 PM
There is no comparison between Trump and any other politician, thankfully. It is necessary that our President be a man with some ethics. A little empathy is also helpful. What is not acceptable is an ignorant buffoon who's word is not good. Some will say he has kept his campaign promises but that is largely limited to those that could be accomplished without the cooperation of others by executive order. He has had minimal legislative success, but is attempting end runs around Congress to make up for his lack of negotiating skill.

The least problematic part is the lack of originality of Donald Trump’s words. During his presidency, Trump has uttered no beautiful and memorable phrases. His inaugural address, is remembered, for the phrase American carnage and Trump’s description of a dystopian nation, broken and shattered. More problematic is that many of Trump’s utterances are babble. If you read the transcript of many of his interviews and off the cuff speeches, you find that Trump is not only unable to often lay out a coherent argument; at times he’s unable to string together sentences that make sense.

When it comes to dealing with those who oppose him, he consistently uses words to demean, belittle, bully, or dehumanize. He has mocked former prisoners of war, the disabled, and the appearance of women. He has attacked Gold Star parents and widows. And he has engaged in racially tinged attacks. The number of his targets is inexhaustible because Trump’s brutishness is inexhaustible.

Many other presidents have been viewed as divisive, but Trump provokes for it's own sake; delighting in turning Americans against one another in order to turn them against one another. He seems to think he gains a political advantage in dividing us.

Trump’s words are bad enough, but the greatest cause for concern is his nonstop, dawn-to-midnight assault on facts, truth, reality. That places Trump in a category all his own.

Many politicians are guilty of not telling the full truth of events. But only very few—and only the most dangerous—are committed to destroying the very idea of truth itself by using the big lie. We saw it Day One of the Trump presidency, when he insisted—and sent out his press secretary to insist—that the crowd size at his inauguration was larger than that of Barack Obama’s, despite photographic evidence to the contrary. And that behavior has continued almost every day since.

He lies at will. He lies all the time. He lies on purpose. He lies as a way of life. He lies about things big & small. He lies with impunity. He lies with the direct intent to distract, fool, and deceive his supporters.

In a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars, Trump said, “And just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.” In other words, who are you going to believe—me or your lyin’ eyes?

no beautiful or memorable phrases? who gives a sh*t? you’d rather have a poet who can’t lead effectively?

you crack me up.

what were Hilary’s most eloquent, memorable quotable statements from her campaign? when she pretended to be black that time when she was speaking to blacks ( i ain’t no ways tired, or whatever the hell she said...). or the deplorables statement describing half the country?
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Jim in CT
06-18-2019, 02:58 PM
You don't "see" evidence of it, but I'd be surprised, no shocked if the leaders of our allies don't see Trump for the fool he is. They may actually I'm afraid, be somewhat concerned about the really good people (foreign policy and defense) Trump has forced out that offered some stability behind the scenes

The flip side of course is his standing in the eyes of our enemies and long time foes has experienced a rise in approval, they too see him as the fool he is and will (have) play him like a fiddle.

Clean those glasses, they are clouding your vision.

i’m not denying they see Trumps faults. i’m asking for evidence, that their low opinion of Trump, is having a negative effect on the country?

my vision is fine, i see what’s happening and react to it. i’m not fabricating adverse developments because i don’t like the current potus. you’re acting like we got uninvited from the olympics.

Play him like a fiddle? You mean like Hilary did, like the DNC did? Wow.
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Jim in CT
06-18-2019, 03:24 PM
When it comes to dealing with those who oppose him, he consistently uses words to demean

Obama: Republicans gotta stop just hatin' all the time.

Hilary: republicans are racist, homophobic, sexist, basket of deplorables.

Biden (addressing blacks): Republicans want to put y'all back in chains. ( note the use of the word y'all, when addressing blacks. I guess Biden thought they wouldn't have comprehended if he used more elegant language)

You have zip to say about these statements, but lots to say when Trump is mean to those with whom he disagrees.

Republican=bad, democrat=good, no exceptions. We get it.

Jim in CT
06-18-2019, 03:27 PM
In a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars, Trump said, “And just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.”

He has no point? CNN didn't say that he personally told Cohen to lie to Congress (debunked)?

CNN and MSNBC didn't promise indictments on collusion for two years?

Look at the way the media portrays everything that's political. Ask that Sandman kid from Kentucky, they made him out to be James Earl Ray. Sean Hannity, on the other side, is a compulsive liar. You don't think their cumulative credibility is right around zero?

Sea Dangles
06-18-2019, 09:59 PM
I'm not applying different standards but 5?, 6? pages for Biden's comments is crazy when you have Pres. Trump saying vile things on a daily basis. I'm willing to cut anyone some slack a few times but Trump is so bad people ignore comments that would be headlines on the news for any other Pres. And when people do discuss them, what is the reaction from the right - they call them snowflakes.

You make some good points here but it is not so simple to earn the badge of snowflake. See PeteF and his routine filibuster to grasp a true and dedicated #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&. Spence used to chase the title but the Donald wore him out. Wayne simply chases his own tail while blowing a rape whistle.
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Pete F.
06-19-2019, 02:53 AM
When you realize that we now have the latest President with a pen and a phone, and he’s more divisive and dishonest than the last one, it might be too late.
I’ll continue to tell you the Emperor has no clothes, while you see him claiming that he’s clad in gold.
Idiocracy was on the road last night, showing in Orlando.
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Pete F.
06-19-2019, 02:55 AM
He has no point? CNN didn't say that he personally told Cohen to lie to Congress (debunked)?

CNN and MSNBC didn't promise indictments on collusion for two years?

Look at the way the media portrays everything that's political. Ask that Sandman kid from Kentucky, they made him out to be James Earl Ray. Sean Hannity, on the other side, is a compulsive liar. You don't think their cumulative credibility is right around zero?

Read the Mueller report
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Sea Dangles
06-19-2019, 04:51 AM
He is leading us towards greatness
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Got Stripers
06-19-2019, 05:31 AM
How about looking at all the good people he has forced out, or they just couldn’t continue to work for this crazy short tempered thin skinned reactionary nut job, or let’s look at all the very important cabinet post vacant because he can’t do his job or get good people to stay?
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Sea Dangles
06-19-2019, 05:32 AM
How about it, woopie
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Got Stripers
06-19-2019, 05:51 AM
Ok dangles you don’t want to look there, how about the list of passed bills Mitch has just sat on because the GOP leader will do nothing but kiss Trumps butt. I’d need an hour to even list them all here, Trump and is band of brother are NOT governing.
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Got Stripers
06-19-2019, 05:55 AM
Thankfully cut and paste saves time.

Health care
HR 259 — Medicaid Extenders Act of 2019
House Resolution 271 — Condemning the Trump Administration’s Legal Campaign to Take Away Americans’ Health Care
HR 986 — Protecting Americans with Preexisting Conditions Act of 2019
HR 987 — Strengthening Health Care and Lowering Prescription Drug Costs Act
HR 1520, the Purple Book Continuity Act (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
HR 1503, the Orange Book Transparency Act of 2019 (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
Civil rights
HR 1 — For the People Act of 2019
HR 5 — Equality Act
HR 7 — Paycheck Fairness Act
HR 124 — Expressing opposition to banning service in the Armed Forces by openly transgender individuals
Gun control
HR 8 — Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019
HR 1112 — Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2019
Environment
HR 9 — Climate Action Now Act
HR 1331 — Local Water Protection Act
S 47 — National Resources Management Act
HR 2578 — National Flood Insurance Program Extension Act of 2019
Military/foreign affairs
HR 840 — Veterans’ Access to Child Care Act
HJ Res. 37 — Directing the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
SJ Res. 7 — To direct the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
HR 31 — Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2019
HJ Res. 30 — Disapproving the President’s proposal to take an action relating to the application of certain sanctions with respect to the Russian Federation
Mueller report
H.Con.Res. 24 — Expressing the sense of Congress that the report of Special Counsel Mueller should be made available to the public and to Congress.
Other legislation
HR 1585 — Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2019
HR 1500 — Consumers First Act
HR 1994 — SECURE Act
HR 1644 — Save the Internet Act of 2019
HR 2157 — Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2019
HR 269 — Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness and Advancing Innovation Act of 2019
HR 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standards Program Extension Act
S 24 — Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019
HR 430 — TANF Extension Act of 2019
Concurring in the Senate Amendments to HR 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standard Program Extension Act
HR 790 — Federal Civilian Workforce Pay Raise Fairness Act of 2019
HJ Res. 46 — Relating to a national emergency declared by the President on February 15, 2019
H Res. 183 — Condemning anti-Semitism as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values and aspirations that define the people of the United States and condemning anti-Muslim discrimination and bigotry against minorities as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contrary to the values and aspirations of the United States, as amended
H Res. 194 — Rule Providing for Consideration of H.R. 1644 and H.R. 2021
HR 2480 — Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act
HR 375 — To amend the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934 to reaffirm the authority of the Secretary of the Interior to take land into trust for Indian Tribes (also known as the “Carcieri Fix”)
Votes to end the government shutdown
HR 21 — Making appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2019, and for other purposes
HJ Res. 1 — Making further continuing appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security for fiscal year 2019, and for other purposes
HR 265 — Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2019
HR 267 — Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2019
HR 266 — Department of the Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2019
HR 268 — Disaster Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2019 (Disaster Supplemental and short-term continuing resolution through Feb. 8)
HR 264 — Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act
HJ Res. 28 — Further Additional Continuing Appropriations Act, 2019 (Short-term continuing resolution through Feb. 28)
HR 648 — Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2019 (Six conferenced bills minibus)
HJ Res. 31 — Making further continuing appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security for fiscal year 2019 (Short-term homeland continuing resolution through Feb. 28)
Conference Report to Accompany HJ Res 31 – Making consolidated appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2019, and for other purposes
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Jim in CT
06-19-2019, 06:07 AM
How about looking at all the good people he has forced out, or they just couldn’t continue to work for this crazy short tempered thin skinned reactionary nut job, or let’s look at all the very important cabinet post vacant because he can’t do his job or get good people to stay?
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i’ve never heard anyone say he's a nice guy who is easy and pleasant to be around. That doesn’t mean his policies aren’t working. You made a strong statement that our standing in the world has taken a hit because of trump, i asked for evidence, there isn’t any.

i work at a very large company. in my experience, the people who run such companies are usually mean pr*cks. And i do not care. I care whether or not they can help the company.
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scottw
06-19-2019, 06:07 AM
How about looking at all the good people he has forced out, or they just couldn’t continue to work for this crazy short tempered thin skinned reactionary nut job, or let’s look at all the very important cabinet post vacant because he can’t do his job or get good people to stay?
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too bad we can't get that kind of turn over in the rest of the government:kewl:

scottw
06-19-2019, 06:12 AM
Thankfully cut and paste saves time.


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most of that is nonsense anyway

Got Stripers
06-19-2019, 06:22 AM
Love Trumps platform for 2020, more of the same, running on hate, fear, us against the evil dems; no mention of anything of substance.
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Got Stripers
06-19-2019, 06:26 AM
too bad we can't get that kind of turn over in the rest of the government:kewl:

Won’t argue with that one, term limits would correct much of this BS, but considering who would have to change that, my life will be spent long before that ever happens.
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The Dad Fisherman
06-19-2019, 06:26 AM
Love Trumps platform for 2020, more of the same, running on hate, fear, us against the evil dems; no mention of anything of substance.
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and yet the entire democratic theme for the Mid-terms was "We need to impeach Trump"

Got Stripers
06-19-2019, 06:29 AM
and yet the entire democratic theme for the Mid-terms was "We need to impeach Trump"
Apparently you haven’t listened to a single dem candidate, because unlike Trump, the majority are running on substance and policy. I like many believe it’s time to begin an impeachment herring to stop the stonewalling by the executive branch, but that isn’t their platform. Biden is the exception, he seems to be running as the guy how can beat Trump and he isn’t wrong, but others could too.
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The Dad Fisherman
06-19-2019, 06:36 AM
Apparently you haven’t listened to a single dem candidate, because unlike Trump, the majority are running on substance and policy. I like many believe it’s time to begin an impeachment herring to stop the stonewalling by the executive branch, but that isn’t their platform. Biden is the exception, he seems to be running as the guy how can beat Trump and he isn’t wrong, but others could too.
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I'm listening, but I specified the Mid term elections in 2018.

you know, the rocket scientists who said 'We're gonna impeach this Mudda Fukka"

Got Stripers
06-19-2019, 06:42 AM
I'm listening, but I specified the Mid term elections in 2018.

you know, the rocket scientists who said 'We're gonna impeach this Mudda Fukka"

I was talking about a Trump’s 2020 platform and your living in the past, hit the fast forward button and catch up.
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The Dad Fisherman
06-19-2019, 06:51 AM
I was talking about a Trump’s 2020 platform and your living in the past, hit the fast forward button and catch up.
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Just curious if you were this upset last year with all that hateful speech. You must have had some kind of epiphany between then and now if you're so offended by it.

scottw
06-19-2019, 07:20 AM
I like many believe it’s time to begin an impeachment herring


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red?

Pete F.
06-19-2019, 07:34 AM
no beautiful or memorable phrases? who gives a sh*t? you’d rather have a poet who can’t lead effectively?

you crack me up.

what were Hilary’s most eloquent, memorable quotable statements from her campaign? when she pretended to be black that time when she was speaking to blacks ( i ain’t no ways tired, or whatever the hell she said...). or the deplorables statement describing half the country?
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Still stuck in 2016, I see.

The Dad Fisherman
06-19-2019, 08:07 AM
red?

Pickled

Jim in CT
06-19-2019, 08:21 AM
Still stuck in 2016, I see.

so nothing that happened before trump, matters? if you didn’t care that obama did something but go berserk when trump does the same thing, it’s not legitimate to point that out? it’s not valid o question the glaring double standard?

Who announced that all pre-existing rules and standards were thrown out the window, on the day Trump took office? I missed that announcement I guess.

Where are the concentration camps where millions of illegals are being slaughtered? I can’t find any stories about them, but it must be true, right? AOC said he set up concentration camps, and i haven’t seen anyone except foxnews say she’s lying. and you can’t trust foxnews, right? So where are these death camps? or was AOC lying, and the mainstream
media refuses to say so? Which is it?
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Jim in CT
06-19-2019, 08:47 AM
Still stuck in 2016, I see.

so things that were totally acceptable for all previous presidents to do, are not acceptable for trump to do. that’s what you’re saying...different standards for Trump. nice to see one of you admit it.
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spence
06-19-2019, 08:50 AM
Just curious if you were this upset last year with all that hateful speech. You must have had some kind of epiphany between then and now if you're so offended by it.

Nah, that's not hate...

This is hate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Paf8MPhSG08

spence
06-19-2019, 08:57 AM
You make some good points here but it is not so simple to earn the badge of snowflake. See PeteF and his routine filibuster to grasp a true and dedicated #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&. Spence used to chase the title but the Donald wore him out. Wayne simply chases his own tail while blowing a rape whistle.
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You're confusing fatigue with boredom. You're really boring.

detbuch
06-19-2019, 09:04 AM
Nah, that's not hate...

This is hate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Paf8MPhSG08

That is a professionally edited hit job. As far as hate goes, if I believed that some teen aged "children" did what they were convicted of, I would hate them.

spence
06-19-2019, 09:07 AM
That is a professionally edited hit job. As far as hate goes, if I believed that some teen aged "children" did what they were convicted of, I would hate them.
Yea, Ken Burns, what a hack.

Pete F.
06-19-2019, 09:15 AM
so nothing that happened before trump, matters? if you didn’t care that obama did something but go berserk when trump does the same thing, it’s not legitimate to point that out? it’s not valid o question the glaring double standard?
You're the one who's head keeps exploding, claiming that but Hillary etc. as justification for Trump. And now it's Obama
Who announced that all pre-existing rules and standards were thrown out the window, on the day Trump took office? I missed that announcement I guess.
https://www.brookings.edu/interactives/tracking-deregulation-in-the-trump-era/

Where are the concentration camps where millions of illegals are being slaughtered? I can’t find any stories about them, but it must be true, right? AOC said he set up concentration camps, and i haven’t seen anyone except foxnews say she’s lying. and you can’t trust foxnews, right? So where are these death camps? or was AOC lying, and the mainstream
media refuses to say so? Which is it?
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Where did you come up with "death camps"? Are you claiming AOC said that? or hallucinating with the TDS that you keep projecting onto others?

Andrea Pitzer, author of One Long Night: A Global History of Concentration Camps, has a more global definition.
“We have what I would call a concentration camp system,” Pitzer says, “and the definition of that in my book is, mass detention of civilians without trial.”
"What's required is a little bit of demystification of it," says Waitman Wade Beorn, a Holocaust and genocide studies historian and a lecturer at the University of Virginia. "Things can be concentration camps without being Dachau or Auschwitz. Concentration camps in general have always been designed—at the most basic level—to separate one group of people from another group. Usually, because the majority group, or the creators of the camp, deem the people they're putting in it to be dangerous or undesirable in some way."

Jim in CT
06-19-2019, 09:26 AM
Where did you come up with "death camps"? Are you claiming AOC said that? or hallucinating with the TDS that you keep projecting onto others?

Andrea Pitzer, author of One Long Night: A Global History of Concentration Camps, has a more global definition.
“We have what I would call a concentration camp system,” Pitzer says, “and the definition of that in my book is, mass detention of civilians without trial.”
"What's required is a little bit of demystification of it," says Waitman Wade Beorn, a Holocaust and genocide studies historian and a lecturer at the University of Virginia. "Things can be concentration camps without being Dachau or Auschwitz. Concentration camps in general have always been designed—at the most basic level—to separate one group of people from another group. Usually, because the majority group, or the creators of the camp, deem the people they're putting in it to be dangerous or undesirable in some way."


i’m not excusing trumps behavior, i criticize it all the time. i just ask for a speck of consistency from the likes of you. But you are literally and explicitly saying that the standards of 2016 and prior, no longer apply. Your side changed the rules with Trump.
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Jim in CT
06-19-2019, 09:29 AM
Where did you come up with "death camps"? Are you claiming AOC said that? or hallucinating with the TDS that you keep projecting onto others?

Andrea Pitzer, author of One Long Night: A Global History of Concentration Camps, has a more global definition.
“We have what I would call a concentration camp system,” Pitzer says, “and the definition of that in my book is, mass detention of civilians without trial.”
"What's required is a little bit of demystification of it," says Waitman Wade Beorn, a Holocaust and genocide studies historian and a lecturer at the University of Virginia. "Things can be concentration camps without being Dachau or Auschwitz. Concentration camps in general have always been designed—at the most basic level—to separate one group of people from another group. Usually, because the majority group, or the creators of the camp, deem the people they're putting in it to be dangerous or undesirable in some way."

he’s compared to Hitler all the time. Don Lemon did it last night, you can ask one of the 12 people
who were watching.

if your definition of a concentration camp is a place where people are held without trial, (1) that’s way outside what most people think of when they think of that term and you know it, and (2) even by that definition, it’s asinine to say that’s what we are setting up. these people are detained until
they have hearings, not indefinitely.

and again, keeping kids in cages during obama’s presidency, was never an issue. it only became immoral in january 2017. right?
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scottw
06-19-2019, 10:21 AM
You're confusing fatigue with boredom. You're really boring.

he's hilarious...you are tiresome

scottw
06-19-2019, 10:24 AM
Where did you come up with "death camps"? Are you claiming AOC said that?



ummm...like....yeah

I think her word was "consecration" camps :laugha:

Pete F.
06-19-2019, 10:32 AM
he’s compared to Hitler all the time. Don Lemon did it last night, you can ask one of the 12 people
who were watching.

if your definition of a concentration camp is a place where people are held without trial, (1) that’s way outside what most people think of when they think of that term and you know it, and (2) even by that definition, it’s asinine to say that’s what we are setting up. these people are detained until
they have hearings, not indefinitely.

and again, keeping kids in cages during obama’s presidency, was never an issue. it only became immoral in january 2017. right?
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You didn't answer my question. Or is the he's (I assume Trump) compared to Hitler all the time an answer?

Who were the eleven people besides you who were watching Lemon and why would I care, especially since it is apparently such a limited audience.

I think perhaps you may have attained the rank among Trumplicans of Obergruppensplainer. SAD

If you look at Trump campaign supporters being rewarded look no further than who is holding immigrants and see GEO Group and CoreCivic stock prices.
Just a little view of the Trump swamp, that he claimed to be draining.
Wonder what his and his families holdings of those stocks amount to?

Jim in CT
06-19-2019, 10:37 AM
You didn't answer my question. Or is the he's (I assume Trump) compared to Hitler all the time an answer?

Who were the eleven people besides you who were watching Lemon and why would I care, especially since it is apparently such a limited audience.

I think perhaps you may have attained the rank among Trumplicans of Obergruppensplainer. SAD

If you look at Trump campaign supporters being rewarded look no further than who is holding immigrants and see GEO Group and CoreCivic stock prices.
Just a little view of the Trump swamp, that he claimed to be draining.
Wonder what his and his families holdings of those stocks amount to?

"You didn't answer my question"

Was the question, where did I come yup with death camps?

Answer: From Fredo Ocasio-Cortez. She said Trump is setting up concentration camps where people are being brutalized and killed, and she said "never again", a phrase commonly associated with the Holocaust.

She specifically referred to people at these concentration camps, as being "brutalized" and "killed". I concluded she was referring to death camps. You disagree. Fine.

I answered your question directly. Return the favor? Do you stand by your comment that it's "bizarre" of me to claim that Biden said the things he said? Or was I 100% correct that he said them?

Pete F.
06-19-2019, 11:09 AM
"You didn't answer my question"

Was the question, where did I come yup with death camps?

Answer: From Fredo Ocasio-Cortez. She said Trump is setting up concentration camps where people are being brutalized and killed, and she said "never again", a phrase commonly associated with the Holocaust.

She specifically referred to people at these concentration camps, as being "brutalized" and "killed". I concluded she was referring to death camps. You disagree. Fine.

I answered your question directly. Return the favor? Do you stand by your comment that it's "bizarre" of me to claim that Biden said the things he said? Or was I 100% correct that he said them?

Who is Fredo? Is she a relative of the junior representative from NY that Trumplicans love to hate? Or is that a name Tucker Hannity came up with?

You have now lost your way and are in the wrong thread, your cubicle mates must be scratching their heads at your mumbling.

Jim in CT
06-19-2019, 11:29 AM
Who is Fredo? Is she a relative of the junior representative from NY that Trumplicans love to hate? Or is that a name Tucker Hannity came up with?

You have now lost your way and are in the wrong thread, your cubicle mates must be scratching their heads at your mumbling.

Fredo is a reference to the film The Godfather, Fredo was the idiot who couldn’t do anything and was constantly embarrassing himself. It fits someone who would compare trump to hitler.

pete, if you think i’m angry, i’m not. the gop is doing great at the moment, my IRA is up, my net pay is up, any fellow citizens are working. i suspect trump will get clobbered next year, which is ok, the pendulum swings in both directions, that’s healthy.

when i point out the obvious hypocrisy displayed by you and spence, i’m laughing when i do so, not angry. believe that, don’t believe it, i could care less.
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wdmso
06-19-2019, 01:04 PM
You make some good points here but it is not so simple to earn the badge of snowflake. See PeteF and his routine filibuster to grasp a true and dedicated #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&. Spence used to chase the title but the Donald wore him out. Wayne simply chases his own tail while blowing a rape whistle.
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funny you cry the most here.. why is that :lama:

Sea Dangles
06-19-2019, 03:23 PM
funny you cry the most here.. why is that :lama:

I am an emotional guy and you are the the tough guy?
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Sea Dangles
06-19-2019, 05:44 PM
he's hilarious...you are tiresome

The fact he acknowledged the joke with a response is enlightening. Very sad.
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spence
06-19-2019, 06:08 PM
The fact he acknowledged the joke with a response is enlightening. Very sad.
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Looks like Trump doesn't have any new material, neither do you. Yawn.

Got Stripers
06-19-2019, 06:32 PM
His rally was filled with the same old same old, like traveling back in time and of course it was filled with the usual lies and false statements.
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Sea Dangles
06-19-2019, 08:00 PM
Looks like Trump doesn't have any new material, neither do you. Yawn.

Sending you good thoughts tonight Jeff.
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scottw
06-20-2019, 06:25 AM
Looks like Trump doesn't have any new material Yawn.

the democraps do?...well...I guess if you count new stuff to give away



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detbuch
06-20-2019, 09:43 AM
Yea, Ken Burns, what a hack.

Ooooooooohhh . . . Ken Burns! Let us bow and scrape. The great Ken Burns has spoken!

Yeah, Ken Burns is very professionally capable of making something look like something else. He's not a hack. He's a very polished, professional writer who knows how to convince.

The edited clips in your video, taken out of context . . . you know . . . context! . . . the stuff you like to bring up in order to mitigate the stupidity of some opinion you hold . . .taken out of context makes Trump to be a really vicious, hateful, nasty, racist, whatever.

But Trump was reacting to the really vicious, hateful, nasty (and possibly racist) criminal stuff that was going on in the streets of NY at the time. And maybe the rage Trump was expressing, and was also reflecting the feeling of the citizens of that city, resulted in the election of Giuliani who cleared the mess up few years later. And, as for racism, Trump pointed out in his editorial that the crimes were against all races including blacks and latinos. The Central Park incidence was one small bit of the totality Trump was speaking about, not just about the five teens. When he called for the reinstatement of the death penalty, it was specifically for murderers, which was pretty clear if you read his now infamous editorial. He did not call for the death of the five teenagers. And for those who committed the brutal crimes other than murder (including, presumably, the five)which were threatening the civility of his city, he called for punishment, as a deterrent, not psychoanalytical analysis of "why" they are such twisted beings.

Over the top? Perhaps. But not what your video makes Trump out to be. And that was thirty years ago. People are demanding Trump apologize and criticize him for not doing so. He points out that the five were charged with other crimes for which they were not exonerated, and that many of the prosecutors still believe that the teens, as well as several others that night in the park, were guilty of the mayhem that was occurring that night (not just against the jogger).

I'm not going to say Trump is right, nor that he is wrong, but I'm not going to go oooohh, Ken Burns! Gotta believe what he portrays . . . because he is Ken Burns.

Got Stripers
06-20-2019, 11:26 AM
When asked recently he used the same response he did in Charlottesville, good people on both sides. No remorse for the hell the innocent went thru, all about his own brand and image.
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detbuch
06-20-2019, 03:47 PM
When asked recently he used the same response he did in Charlottesville, good people on both sides.

Is there something wrong with that statement?

No remorse for the hell the innocent went thru, all about his own brand and image.


You're assuming that the teens were innocent of all charges, not just the rape. And, for Trump to be remorseful, he would have to believe that as well.

What he expressed at that time was about the "brand and image," as you put it, of New York and the people of all races who lived through the brutal crime that existed there until Giuliani cleaned it up.

The Ken Burns video that Spence posted is the typical kind of propaganda that informs the opinions of good people like you who don't know the full story.

Got Stripers
06-20-2019, 05:17 PM
DNA proved someone else was responsible!
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detbuch
06-20-2019, 06:28 PM
DNA proved someone else was responsible!
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Stubborn and willful myopia.