I see Nationalist propaganda. for special audience (himself) and his base

So let see since our resident Trump Fan club think about

Trump making 4th of July his bitch..

I see Nationalist propaganda.



:laugha:

Lots of VA hospitals and centers could use the money this draft dodger is going to spent so he can impress his buddy Kim and himself of course. Veterans across this country in need could benefit better by spending those dollars elsewhere, don’t need to impress me or bolster my patriotism, caulk up another stupid move.
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flags and servicemen marching and celebrations of who we are, on our nations birthday, are nationalist propaganda.

the TDS is strong in you. try lightening up.
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It will be a gaudy TRUMP extravaganza, replete with tanks on the mall, “USA” spelled out across the sky, a rendering of the president’s massive hands with USA tattooed across the palm, a musical extravaganza hosted by Uncle Jesse from Full House, an “enormous” American flag, and a “special appearance” by the Sesame Street muppets. (Only one item in that list is made-up, the rest were provided, unironically, by the Department of Interior).
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Couple things, first disclaimer, I think a vast military parade is stupid. Running Tanks through your Capital is bot terribly impressive, and nothing like running your tanks through someone else's capital - that's impressive (and relax, a joke ; ) )

First - this is not a Commie style May Day parade for crying out loud. Not a few divisions Goosestepping. About 20 fixed wing aircraft, some rotary, a dozen tracks.

Second - This is SMALLER than the RI ANG Air Show. A little silly but it is not that big of a deal.



Lots of VA hospitals and centers could use the money this draft dodger is going to spent so he can impress his buddy Kim and himself of course. Veterans across this country in need could benefit better by spending those dollars elsewhere, don’t need to impress me or bolster my patriotism, caulk up another stupid move.
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Everyone will need this money once Dems instill nationalized healthcare. Think the VA can screew up health care for several millions of Americans, wait until they screw it up on grand scale.

And we won't have money for this because we will be giving it to everyone that comes here in benefits and healthcare.

Lots of VA hospitals and centers could use the money this draft dodger is going to spent so he can impress his buddy Kim and himself of course. Veterans across this country in need could benefit better by spending those dollars elsewhere, don’t need to impress me or bolster my patriotism, caulk up another stupid move.
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A stupid move would be spending that money on an illegal intruder instead of on the good ole USA!
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A stupid move would be spending that money on an illegal intruder instead of on the good ole USA!
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How about all the billions of dollars we give to Israel? Oh.. they all have free healthcare.
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How about all the billions of dollars we give to Israel? Oh.. they all have free healthcare.
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They are under attack by Democrats and need all the help they can get ; )

Second - This is SMALLER than the RI ANG Air Show. A little silly but it is not that big of a deal.

But, but TRUMP, it has to be A big deal. There's gotta be something wrong with this, there just has to be.

This celebration is going to destroy our democracy and turn us into the fourth reich.

I heard there was going to be a float with midgets dressed as illegal immigrants that fly over a wall when shot out of a catapult.

It's gonna be Yuge
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This could be the code red Spence has been predicting!
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They are under attack by Democrats and need all the help they can get ; )

How about a serious answer.
Why should my tax dollars do to a country that has free healthcare for all ?

America first? Bullshinola
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I think some are missing the historical background of the 4th ...

And refuse to see Trumps politicalization and weaponizing of our independence. for his own political gain... yet again with minimizations like its smaller than the RI Air show... (not the point)

Flag waving or owning a flag or flag anything... is now a limitus test presented by republicans to separate and define what Real americans look like ...

the Nike shoe outrage is a clear example it's not even an american flag It’s the Betsy Ross flag, used by white supremacists. Nazis ... yet the story shows up the day before the 4th .. amazing

@tedcruz
Follow Follow @tedcruz
More Ted Cruz Retweeted The Wall Street Journal
It’s a good thing @Nike only wants to sell sneakers to people who hate the American flag.... @NFL #HappyFourth

How about all the billions of dollars we give to Israel? Oh.. they all have free healthcare.
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Your anti semitism is showing.
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all this have actually happened in varying degrees ... compliments of Bill Maher

all this have actually happened in varying degrees ... compliments of Bill Maher

president for life? state run tv? if
1% of the population watches fox on a good night, how is that state run tv? 90% of the coverage on other networks is negative. that's state run tv?
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But, but TRUMP, it has to be A big deal. There's gotta be something wrong with this, there just has to be.

This celebration is going to destroy our democracy and turn us into the fourth reich.

I heard there was going to be a float with midgets dressed as illegal immigrants that fly over a wall when shot out of a catapult.

It's gonna be Yuge
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There are people screaming about tanks on the Washington Mall, Coup de tatrs and such, it was a couple Low Boys with Bradleys (The Tanks come later).

How about a serious answer.
Why should my tax dollars do to a country that has free healthcare for all ?

America first? Bullshinola
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Our country spends poorly regardless of administration. Join me in bringing spending back to what the constitution allows for and a lot less for other things.

I will happily give you non-sarcical answers but that would assume you are willing to enter into a debate without sarc

president for life? state run tv? if
1% of the population watches fox on a good night, how is that state run tv? 90% of the coverage on other networks is negative. that's state run tv?
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We really are effed up. Not sure we can fix it this time, gawd I hope we can fix it.

president for life? state run tv? if
1% of the population watches fox on a good night, how is that state run tv? 90% of the coverage on other networks is negative. that's state run tv?
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Here is a comparison between North Korean TV and Fox

Unfortunately it's on Twitter, not YouTube so it won't play automatically.

https://twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/1145693544910327814?s=21

Here is a comparison between North Korean TV and Fox

Unfortunately it's on Twitter, not YouTube so it won't play automatically.

https://twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/1145693544910327814?s=21

one percent of the country watches fox. far more people
watch the other networks in total, and the coverage there is overwhelmingly negative. and there are people
at fox who don’t like
him.

i’m not denying that fox is very sympathetic to trump. the rest of the networks hate him. so i can’t fathom how you’d say that in the aggregate, american networks are state run tv.
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There are people screaming about tanks on the Washington Mall, Coup de tatrs and such, it was a couple Low Boys with Bradleys (The Tanks come later).



Our country spends poorly regardless of administration. Join me in bringing spending back to what the constitution allows for and a lot less for other things.

I will happily give you non-sarcical answers but that would assume you are willing to enter into a debate without sarc




We really are effed up. Not sure we can fix it this time, gawd I hope we can fix it.

not getting fixed in 2020.
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Heads. In the sand .. with all historical comparisons. And because it hasn't happened .. talking about is ok.. if the last potus did any of my list OMG .. but now .. not so much
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Heads. In the sand .. with all historical comparisons. And because it hasn't happened .. talking about is ok.. if the last potus did any of my list OMG .. but now .. not so much
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Depends - would Obama send a BCT down the Mall with squadrons of fighters and bombers? Yeh - that would be excessive.

Or would Obama send the equivalent of what Trump is sending, not a big deal.

one percent of the country watches fox. far more people
watch the other networks in total, and the coverage there is overwhelmingly negative. and there are people
at fox who don’t like
him.

i’m not denying that fox is very sympathetic to trump. the rest of the networks hate him. so i can’t fathom how you’d say that in the aggregate, american networks are state run tv.
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When did i say you’d say that in the aggregate, american networks are state run tv.

Your 1% number is very misleading at best.

What counts is the percentage of total viewers in the US, not all americans are watching any TV and fewer yet are watching news.

Fox at 2.4m is very close to equal to MSNBC and CNN combined

Fox News averaged 2.4 million primetime viewers to rank as the most-watched network in all of basic cable from 8-11 p.m. ET. MSNBC came in second place with an average of 1.7 million, while TNT, ESPN, and HGTV rounded out the top five.The lowly CNN finished fifteenth, averaging only 761,000 primetime viewers and finishing behind channels such as Discovery and the Food Network.

When did i say you’d say that in the aggregate, american networks are state run tv.



Fox at 2.4m is very close to equal to MSNBC and CNN combined



you left out abc, nbc, cbs. conveniently.

fox is one piece of the pie, and is bet their coverage of trump
isn’t as biased in favor of him, to the degree that everyone else is biased against him. but i don’t watch much.
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Pete, from a harvard university study ( not a conservative place). trumps coverage more than 90% negative CNN and NBC, and CBS, 52% negative on Fox.

sure, state run tv.

the data is old. but it’s clear.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/09/12/study-91-percent-of-recent-network-trump-coverage-has-been-negative/?utm_term=.804a08bd44d0
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you left out abc, nbc, cbs. conveniently.

fox is one piece of the pie, and is bet their coverage of trump
isn’t as biased in favor of him, to the degree that everyone else is biased against him. but i don’t watch much.
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I've never seen any host denigrate Trump at the same level that Hannity, Pirro, Dobbs, Carlson, Regan, etc. praise him.

https://twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/1145693544910327814?s=21

I've never seen any host denigrate Trump at the same level that Hannity, Pirro, Dobbs, Carlson, Regan, etc. praise him.

https://twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/1145693544910327814?s=21

well, maybe Harvard did a slightly more thorough analysis than just asking you what you thought.

the only one of those people
i ever watch, is Carlson. He criticizes trump all the time. constantly. hannity is blind, no doubt. Tucker Carlson? Come on.

people on other networks constantly say he’s a racist, and constantly say he’s a threat to our democratic institutions.
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Trump had tickets distributed to the RNC but nothing for the DNC. Shows what a vile man we have as president. How sad for our country.
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well, maybe Harvard did a slightly more thorough analysis than just asking you what you thought.

the only one of those people
i ever watch, is Carlson. He criticizes trump all the time. constantly. hannity is blind, no doubt. Tucker Carlson? Come on.

people on other networks constantly say he’s a racist, and constantly say he’s a threat to our democratic institutions.
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Your link is behind a paywall
How old is it?
Here is a recent one

The 24-hour cable news channels - CNN, the Fox News Channel, and MSNBC - are frequent targets of allegations of media bias. In this paper, we address several questions about cablenews. First, how much does consuming slanted news, like the Fox News Channel, change individuals’ partisan voting preferences in presidential elections, if at all? Second, how intense are consumer preferences for cable news that is slanted towards their own ideology? After measuring these forces, we ask: how much could slanted news contribute to increases in ideological polarization? And, what do these forces imply for the optimal editorial policy of channels that wish to maximize viewership, or alternatively to maximize electoral influence?

https://web.stanford.edu/~ayurukog/cable_news.pdf

Here is a quote from someone who worked at Fox.

A former executive at the Rupert Murdoch-controlled News Corporation said Sunday he left the company in part because of a change in Fox News' tone.

"I noticed a significant change in tone. I'm a big believer in the marketplace of ideas, right? And I was fine working with and for people who had different values and opinions than I did. But I noticed a significant shift in the ferociousness, and frankly, the relationship with facts, you know, particularly on the Fox side," Joseph Azam, former senior vice president and group chief compliance officer at News Corp., said on CNN's "Reliable Sources."

Azam said the change took place around the time of the 2016 election when President Trump was elected to the White House.

"It became very profitable to fall in line with an anti-immigrant, anti-refugee, anti-Semitic, anti-Muslim rhetoric and I was affected by that," he explained.

And here's part of an article about Murdoch, Fox and Trump

In January, during the longest government shutdown in America’s history, President Donald Trump rode in a motorcade through Hidalgo County, Texas, eventually stopping on a grassy bluff overlooking the Rio Grande. The White House wanted to dramatize what Trump was portraying as a national emergency: the need to build a wall along the Mexican border. The presence of armored vehicles, bales of confiscated marijuana, and federal agents in flak jackets underscored the message.

But the photo op dramatized something else about the Administration. After members of the press pool got out of vans and headed over to where the President was about to speak, they noticed that Sean Hannity, the Fox News host, was already on location. Unlike them, he hadn’t been confined by the Secret Service, and was mingling with Administration officials, at one point hugging Kirstjen Nielsen, the Secretary of Homeland Security. The pool report noted that Hannity was seen “huddling” with the White House communications director, Bill Shine. After the photo op, Hannity had an exclusive on-air interview with Trump. Politico later reported that it was Hannity’s seventh interview with the President, and Fox’s forty-second. Since then, Trump has given Fox two more. He has granted only ten to the three other main television networks combined, and none to CNN, which he denounces as “fake news.”

Hannity was treated in Texas like a member of the Administration because he virtually is one. The same can be said of Fox’s chairman, Rupert Murdoch. Fox has long been a bane of liberals, but in the past two years many people who watch the network closely, including some Fox alumni, say that it has evolved into something that hasn’t existed before in the United States. Nicole Hemmer, an assistant professor of Presidential studies at the University of Virginia’s Miller Center and the author of “Messengers of the Right,” a history of the conservative media’s impact on American politics, says of Fox, “It’s the closest we’ve come to having state TV.”

Hemmer argues that Fox—which, as the most watched cable news network, generates about $2.7 billion a year for its parent company, 21st Century Fox—acts as a force multiplier for Trump, solidifying his hold over the Republican Party and intensifying his support. “Fox is not just taking the temperature of the base—it’s raising the temperature,” she says. “It’s a radicalization model.” For both Trump and Fox, “fear is a business strategy—it keeps people watching.” As the President has been beset by scandals, congressional hearings, and even talk of impeachment, Fox has been both his shield and his sword. The White House and Fox interact so seamlessly that it can be hard to determine, during a particular news cycle, which one is following the other’s lead. All day long, Trump retweets claims made on the network; his press secretary, Sarah Sanders, has largely stopped holding press conferences, but she has made some thirty appearances on such shows as “Fox & Friends” and “Hannity.” Trump, Hemmer says, has “almost become a programmer.”

Joe Peyronnin, a professor of journalism at N.Y.U., was an early president of Fox News, in the mid-nineties. “I’ve never seen anything like it before,” he says of Fox. “It’s as if the President had his own press organization. It’s not healthy.”

Blair Levin, at that time the chief of staff at the F.C.C. and now a fellow at the Brookings Institution, says, “Fox’s great insight wasn’t necessarily that there was a great desire for a conservative point of view.” More erudite conservatives, he says, such as William F. Buckley, Jr., and Bill Kristol, couldn’t have succeeded as Fox has. Levin observes, “The genius was seeing that there’s an attraction to fear-based, anger-based politics that has to do with class and race.”

In 1996, Murdoch hired Roger Ailes to create a conservative TV news outlet. Ailes, who died in 2017, was a master of attack politics and wedge issues, having been a media consultant on several of America’s dirtiest and most divisive campaigns, including those of Richard Nixon. Ailes invented programming, Levin argues, “that confirmed all your worst instincts—Fox News’ fundamental business model is driving fear.” The formula worked spectacularly well. By 2002, Fox had displaced CNN as the highest-rated cable news network, and it has remained on top ever since.

In 2011, at Ailes’s invitation, Trump began making weekly guest appearances on the morning show “Fox & Friends.” In a trial run of his campaign tactics, he used the channel as a platform to exploit racist suspicions about President Barack Obama, spreading doubt about whether he was born in America. (In one segment, Trump suggested that Obama’s “family doesn’t even know what hospital he was born in!”) As Hundt sees it, “Murdoch didn’t invent Trump, but he invented the audience. Murdoch was going to make a Trump exist. Then Trump comes along, sees all these people, and says, ‘I’ll be the ringmaster in your circus!’ ”

Trump’s arrival marked an important shift in tone at Fox. Until then, the network had largely mocked birtherism as a conspiracy theory. O’Reilly called its promoters “unhinged,” and Glenn Beck, who at the time also hosted a Fox show, called them “idiots.” But Trump gave birtherism national exposure, and, in a sign of things to come, Hannity fanned the flames. Hannity began saying that, although he thought that Obama had been born in the United States, the circumstances surrounding his birth certificate were “odd.”

Your link is behind a paywall
How old is it?
Here is a recent one

The 24-hour cable news channels - CNN, the Fox News Channel, and MSNBC - are frequent targets of allegations of media bias. In this paper, we address several questions about cablenews. First, how much does consuming slanted news, like the Fox News Channel, change individuals’ partisan voting preferences in presidential elections, if at all? Second, how intense are consumer preferences for cable news that is slanted towards their own ideology? After measuring these forces, we ask: how much could slanted news contribute to increases in ideological polarization? And, what do these forces imply for the optimal editorial policy of channels that wish to maximize viewership, or alternatively to maximize electoral influence?

https://web.stanford.edu/~ayurukog/cable_news.pdf

Here is a quote from someone who worked at Fox.

A former executive at the Rupert Murdoch-controlled News Corporation said Sunday he left the company in part because of a change in Fox News' tone.

"I noticed a significant change in tone. I'm a big believer in the marketplace of ideas, right? And I was fine working with and for people who had different values and opinions than I did. But I noticed a significant shift in the ferociousness, and frankly, the relationship with facts, you know, particularly on the Fox side," Joseph Azam, former senior vice president and group chief compliance officer at News Corp., said on CNN's "Reliable Sources."

Azam said the change took place around the time of the 2016 election when President Trump was elected to the White House.

"It became very profitable to fall in line with an anti-immigrant, anti-refugee, anti-Semitic, anti-Muslim rhetoric and I was affected by that," he explained.

And here's part of an article about Murdoch, Fox and Trump

In January, during the longest government shutdown in America’s history, President Donald Trump rode in a motorcade through Hidalgo County, Texas, eventually stopping on a grassy bluff overlooking the Rio Grande. The White House wanted to dramatize what Trump was portraying as a national emergency: the need to build a wall along the Mexican border. The presence of armored vehicles, bales of confiscated marijuana, and federal agents in flak jackets underscored the message.

But the photo op dramatized something else about the Administration. After members of the press pool got out of vans and headed over to where the President was about to speak, they noticed that Sean Hannity, the Fox News host, was already on location. Unlike them, he hadn’t been confined by the Secret Service, and was mingling with Administration officials, at one point hugging Kirstjen Nielsen, the Secretary of Homeland Security. The pool report noted that Hannity was seen “huddling” with the White House communications director, Bill Shine. After the photo op, Hannity had an exclusive on-air interview with Trump. Politico later reported that it was Hannity’s seventh interview with the President, and Fox’s forty-second. Since then, Trump has given Fox two more. He has granted only ten to the three other main television networks combined, and none to CNN, which he denounces as “fake news.”

Hannity was treated in Texas like a member of the Administration because he virtually is one. The same can be said of Fox’s chairman, Rupert Murdoch. Fox has long been a bane of liberals, but in the past two years many people who watch the network closely, including some Fox alumni, say that it has evolved into something that hasn’t existed before in the United States. Nicole Hemmer, an assistant professor of Presidential studies at the University of Virginia’s Miller Center and the author of “Messengers of the Right,” a history of the conservative media’s impact on American politics, says of Fox, “It’s the closest we’ve come to having state TV.”

Hemmer argues that Fox—which, as the most watched cable news network, generates about $2.7 billion a year for its parent company, 21st Century Fox—acts as a force multiplier for Trump, solidifying his hold over the Republican Party and intensifying his support. “Fox is not just taking the temperature of the base—it’s raising the temperature,” she says. “It’s a radicalization model.” For both Trump and Fox, “fear is a business strategy—it keeps people watching.” As the President has been beset by scandals, congressional hearings, and even talk of impeachment, Fox has been both his shield and his sword. The White House and Fox interact so seamlessly that it can be hard to determine, during a particular news cycle, which one is following the other’s lead. All day long, Trump retweets claims made on the network; his press secretary, Sarah Sanders, has largely stopped holding press conferences, but she has made some thirty appearances on such shows as “Fox & Friends” and “Hannity.” Trump, Hemmer says, has “almost become a programmer.”

Joe Peyronnin, a professor of journalism at N.Y.U., was an early president of Fox News, in the mid-nineties. “I’ve never seen anything like it before,” he says of Fox. “It’s as if the President had his own press organization. It’s not healthy.”

Blair Levin, at that time the chief of staff at the F.C.C. and now a fellow at the Brookings Institution, says, “Fox’s great insight wasn’t necessarily that there was a great desire for a conservative point of view.” More erudite conservatives, he says, such as William F. Buckley, Jr., and Bill Kristol, couldn’t have succeeded as Fox has. Levin observes, “The genius was seeing that there’s an attraction to fear-based, anger-based politics that has to do with class and race.”

In 1996, Murdoch hired Roger Ailes to create a conservative TV news outlet. Ailes, who died in 2017, was a master of attack politics and wedge issues, having been a media consultant on several of America’s dirtiest and most divisive campaigns, including those of Richard Nixon. Ailes invented programming, Levin argues, “that confirmed all your worst instincts—Fox News’ fundamental business model is driving fear.” The formula worked spectacularly well. By 2002, Fox had displaced CNN as the highest-rated cable news network, and it has remained on top ever since.

In 2011, at Ailes’s invitation, Trump began making weekly guest appearances on the morning show “Fox & Friends.” In a trial run of his campaign tactics, he used the channel as a platform to exploit racist suspicions about President Barack Obama, spreading doubt about whether he was born in America. (In one segment, Trump suggested that Obama’s “family doesn’t even know what hospital he was born in!”) As Hundt sees it, “Murdoch didn’t invent Trump, but he invented the audience. Murdoch was going to make a Trump exist. Then Trump comes along, sees all these people, and says, ‘I’ll be the ringmaster in your circus!’ ”

Trump’s arrival marked an important shift in tone at Fox. Until then, the network had largely mocked birtherism as a conspiracy theory. O’Reilly called its promoters “unhinged,” and Glenn Beck, who at the time also hosted a Fox show, called them “idiots.” But Trump gave birtherism national exposure, and, in a sign of things to come, Hannity fanned the flames. Hannity began saying that, although he thought that Obama had been born in the United States, the circumstances surrounding his birth certificate were “odd.”

a harvard study with summarized data, versus a couple of
anecdotal observations.

you sure showed me.
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a harvard study with summarized data, versus a couple of
anecdotal observations.

you sure showed me.
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Reading isn’t your strong suit
How old is the study you linked
https://web.stanford.edu/~ayurukog/cable_news.pdf
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I've never seen any host denigrate Trump at the same level that Hannity, Pirro, Dobbs, Carlson, Regan, etc. praise him.

https://twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/1145693544910327814?s=21
PeteF. Is either one of two things
A pathetic liar
Or just a plain old liar
Isn’t this the guy who has said multiple times that he does not watch television? So either that was a lie....or he is simply making up another stupid story.
Please explain.
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PeteF. Is either one of two things
A pathetic liar
Or just a plain old liar
Isn’t this the guy who has said multiple times that he does not watch television? So either that was a lie....or he is simply making up another stupid story.
Please explain.
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There’s this thing called YouTube
You’re pretty concerned about my honesty, but not concerned about the liar in chief and his alternative facts.
Typical Trumplican
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Sure thing,liar
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Sure thing,liar
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Spoken like a true anal opening.
In case you’re wondering that’s a current Trumplican insult, popularized by one of the less intelligent Trumplican members of the House.
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When they catch on, spout off. Good strategy Aesop.
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so even
my
liberal friends are saying his celebration was apolitical. i didn’t see it.
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so even
my
liberal friends are saying his celebration was apolitical. i didn’t see it.
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it wasn't...accidentally caught a brief bit of a CBS news babe just prior to Trump's arrival...."WARNING>>>WARNING >>>WARNING Trump will go off script and make this political....Critics Say, Critics Warn, Critics are upset about...democraps weren't invited (so they couldn't grandstand by boycotting the event :kewl:)"


as usual the dummies cackled for days and were completely WRONG

hope the flag burners had a nice day

1 potus in 7 decades to use 4th as a personal look at me moment.. I am amazed how many people think it was because of his love of nation .. its sad that I see him in this light ... a reality star playing for the camera. But he created the image over and over again
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Sad indeed
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Tiny hands leads to large parades.
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I never thought it would go so far that the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s would find fault in a July 4th parade. Oy
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1 potus in 7 decades to use 4th as a personal look at me moment.. I am amazed how many people think it was because of his love of nation .. its sad that I see him in this light ... a reality star playing for the camera. But he created the image over and over again
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was it “look at me”? or was it “look at america”?

youre right, it is sad that you see him in the light you see him in, instead of in a light of fairness and objectivity.

#orangemanbad
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I never thought it would go so far that the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s would find fault in a July 4th parade. Oy
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i saw some clips, it was all a celebration of america and the military. maybe i missed the parts where he patted himself on the back and made fun of cnn. i only saw clips, not the whole thing.
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was it “look at me”? or was it “look at america”?


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it was none of what the idiot left said it would be leading up and now they blame trump for tricking them...which isn't hard to do these days :laugha:

it was very well attended ...

it’s also not the first time tanks have been part of a celebration in DC. but why let facts get in the way of a good, foaming at the mouth, howling at the moon, tin foil hat, liberal rant?

https://shareth.is/f6881750?fbclid=IwAR0F0Nc2LR6f5OTBf2NZbrEBP2P5OUmc KLShrwrI5bJBHGzElOi2sEvlLLM#https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/03/trump-4th-july-tanks-have-rumbled-through-nations-capital-before/1642869001/
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it was none of what the idiot left said it would be leading up and now they blame trump for tricking them...which isn't hard to do these days :laugha:

it was very well attended ...

they will never get tired of stepping on the rake Trump leaves out for them. Never.
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I never thought it would go so far that the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s would find fault in a July 4th parade. Oy
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Just so you're aware, this is how stupid it looks when you talk like this. Granted, you've still got some work to achieve elite dip#^&#^&#^&#^& status like Lou Dobbs.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/451720-lou-dobbs-calls-generals-snowflakes-for-not-supporting-trump-4th-of-july

Just so you're aware, this is how stupid it looks when you talk like this. Granted, you've still got some work to achieve elite dip#^&#^&#^&#^& status like Lou Dobbs.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/451720-lou-dobbs-calls-generals-snowflakes-for-not-supporting-trump-4th-of-july

what about the celebration, offended you, exactly? other than the fact that hilary wasn’t at the podium?
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was it “look at me”? or was it “look at america”?
Unless you've been on a deserted island the past two years I don't see how anyone couldn't see through this as a child making a mess to get some attention. What a waste of taxpayer money and politicizing the affair with VIP tickets distributed by the RNC to campaign donors should be investigated as I can't believe it was legal.

My favorite description of Trump was “an angry grandpa reading a fifth grader’s book report on American military history.”

It was not political. His speech didn't bring in politics. It was not about him. It was what the 4th of July is really about. It was a celebration of the founding of this country, and about the greatness of what has been created, and about the pride in who we are. It was positive and uplifting, not negative and depressing as so much of the spin about this country from the left is. It was a reminder of the good and power that we have which the annual birthday of this nation inspires us to keep, not to destroy . . . or fundamentally transform.

Ranting about how ugly it was is dispiriting, demoralizing, gloomy politics.

Just so you're aware, this is how stupid it looks when you talk like this. Granted, you've still got some work to achieve elite dip#^&#^&#^&#^& status like Lou Dobbs.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/451720-lou-dobbs-calls-generals-snowflakes-for-not-supporting-trump-4th-of-july
Virtual hug for you if you are offended Jeff. Extra Kleenex last night?
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Unless you've been on a deserted island the past two years I don't see how anyone couldn't see through this as a child making a mess to get some attention. What a waste of taxpayer money and politicizing the affair with VIP tickets distributed by the RNC to campaign donors should be investigated as I can't believe it was legal.

My favorite description of Trump was “an angry grandpa reading a fifth grader’s book report on American military history.”

forget the last two years. if you can, focus on what he said yesterday at the celebration, which was inappropriate. whatcha got?

try to come up with something other than orangemanbad.
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His speech was not horrible but I don't think Trump understands what the celebration is for.

We could look to Thomas Jefferson for guidance as to the meaning of Independence Day for us and all men in the world.

"May it be to the world, what I believe it will be, (to some parts sooner, to others later, but finally to all) the Signal of arousing men to burst the chains, under which monkish ignorance and superstition had persuaded them to bind themselves, and to assume the blessings & security of self-government. That form which we have substituted, restores the free right to the unbounded exercise of reason and freedom of opinion. All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view. The palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God. These are grounds of hope for others. For ourselves, let the annual return of this day forever refresh our recollections of these rights, and an undiminished devotion to them."

I find it hard to believe that Trump believes in that.

He has no idea what western liberalism is, why the founders thought it is important and why previous presidents did not "take meetings" with dictators.

Some of his best friends are chainers.

Less than a week before his Fourth of July celebration, he walked into the literal prison state of North Korea and was impressed "When you talk about a wall, when you talk about a border, that's what they call a border. Nobody goes through that border." He didn't call for the self-determination of the people, but had a smiling photo op with the man who is binding them in servitude.

Jefferson said “the free right to the unbounded exercise of reason and freedom of opinion.”
Trump spent the week prior to his July 4th show, joking with his friend Vlad about how he cracks down on journalists expressing their freedom of opinion.

Trump doesn't fight to help those booted and spurred by the “favored few.” His despotic administration is being run by his family, including his favored son-in-law who meets in private with the guy who ordered the murder, dismemberment and dissolving in acid the body of a man who was arguing for a free society.

The United States of America is not merely a country, but an idea.

It’s about the choice that we make between submission and the sword, a signal to rouse men throughout the world and a celebration of inalienable rights.

And each year we remember and celebrate that, so we don't find ourselves with saddles on our backs, and we do things as a people and government that enables others to gain their freedom.

Jeez, I have to wonder if any previous presidents took meetings with dictators. 🤡
And I know for a fact there is no precedent for nepotism in the White House.🤡🤡
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was it “look at me”? or was it “look at america”?

youre right, it is sad that you see him in the light you see him in, instead of in a light of fairness and objectivity.

#orangemanbad
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I made clear it was clearly about Trump and American was his back drop.

As for objectivity you should try it... ask yourself.. why has no other potus in the past 70 years do what Trump did.. i am sure there were a few darkmoments in those years that such a re affirmation of our independence would have been acceptable... yet it never happened.
Lets ask why now in his term why not his 1st or 2nd year .. but can you say 2020 election??? None of this is cryptic ... or imagined....

This is not being against the 4th of july.. i have been to the oldest 4th parade as a kid that had missles on trucks fly overs many time i marched in the same parade as a member of the Military in full gear..

Its about a potus who cares more about look what I did .. in the hopes you dont ask what did we America get other than a photo opportunity...
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I made clear it was clearly about Trump and American was his back drop.

Its about a potus who cares more about look what I did .. in the hopes you dont ask what did we America get other than a photo opportunity..
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^^^this is incredibly sour...it was a great event...and we got this =terrible news for democraps I'm sure

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/05/jobs-report-june-2019.html

Worst possible spin as expected.
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I made clear it was clearly about Trump and American was his back drop.

As for objectivity you should try it... ask yourself.. why has no other potus in the past 70 years do what Trump did.. i am sure there were a few darkmoments in those years that such a re affirmation of our independence would have been acceptable... yet it never happened.
Lets ask why now in his term why not his 1st or 2nd year .. but can you say 2020 election??? None of this is cryptic ... or imagined....

This is not being against the 4th of july.. i have been to the oldest 4th parade as a kid that had missles on trucks fly overs many time i marched in the same parade as a member of the Military in full gear..

Its about a potus who cares more about look what I did .. in the hopes you dont ask what did we America get other than a photo opportunity...
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please provide a quote or two from his speech, where he made it all
about him? even liberals are saying it was about the republic.
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please provide a quote or two from his speech, where he made it all
about him? even liberals are saying it was about the republic.
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Keep your head in the sand .... and nice dodge .. i guess being the potus doesn't have meaning .. and he didnt say anything so it was all innocuous...
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Keep your head in the sand .... and nice dodge .. i guess being the potus doesn't have meaning .. and he didnt say anything so it was all innocuous...
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this thread is about the july 4th celebration. i asked for a couple of quotes to support your statement that it was about him, and you provided exactly zilch. meaning, it wasn’t all about him, but you can’t being yourself to admit it.

it’s like your side wants him to win again. you just don’t see how he gets you to step on the rake he left out for you.
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My favorite description of Trump was “an angry grandpa reading a fifth grader’s book report on American military history.”

that's a good one...my favorite was "Trump celebrates America....democrats engage in angry protest"

that's a good one...my favorite was "Trump celebrates America....democrats engage in angry protest"

it’s a political flop for the left, when they hysterically oppose what that was.
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I love how you asked Wayne for one quote and his response is that YOU dodged the question. Stand up guy.
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I love how you asked Wayne for one quote and his response is that YOU dodged the question. Stand up guy.
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yeah, i was wondering what i dodged, exactly.

liberals love to project. when they accuse you of racism, hate, fascism, dodging, they are often talking about themselves.
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liberals love to project. when they accuse you of racism, hate, fascism, dodging, they are often talking about themselves.
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You can add lying to that list.

You can add lying to that list.

Typical Trump circle jerk just swallow and you’ll all be happy
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Typical Trump circle jerk just swallow and you’ll all be happy
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Small but very good circle. Your lyin' circle sucks.

I love how you asked Wayne for one quote and his response is that YOU dodged the question. Stand up guy.
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Your funny seems you cant follow the bouncing ball ..

Me.. ask yourself.. why has no other potus in the past 70 years do what Trump did.

jim i asked for a couple of quotes to support your statement that it was about him.....

Funny I said nothing about what Trump said..(as my reason it was about him) it was about him before he even opened his mouth... ??? i was very clear

but Jim asking question about his own conclusions is a clear dodge 70 years of presidents and the 4th and why now would Trump insert himself into the 4th As i said why not his 1st year or his 2nd no had to be his 3rd year aka election kick off ..

chris maybe you and jim should take his advice you can’t bring yourself to admit it. you sold out to Trump you've thrown away your dignity, respect , even individual thought... even faced with all the information available ... your Trump lemmings who will follow him off the clift ....:rotflmao:

your Trump lemmings who will follow him off the clift ....:rotflmao:



indeed...

Clearly the musings of a beaten man.
He is obviously out of facts to support his emotions.
When you called him “a reality star playing for the camera” was that not a look at me observation? You wrote it,just wondering why.
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Trump July 4 event as 'taxpayer-funded campaign ad'


https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1146981084531441664

The White House cut a short video of the event set to stirring music. It features plenty of military hardware, and enlisted personnel cheering and clapping for Trump. Filmed in part with a high definition camera, it is one of the most polished videos the Trump White House has produced.

It was quickly tweeted by Trump, and then re-tweeted by TeamTrump, the “official Twitter for the Trump campaign.”



not about him at all

That was a very uplifting video, thank you for sharing.

Love seeing that stealth thing
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