Joe Walsh throws his hat in. Weld has been there. Kasich not ruling it out... The party wants none of it and claims they are steadfastly behind Trump. I don't believe that for a minute. Most are just scared to be labeled as a Republican who does not approve of how he is doing the job. That is different from some of the what he is trying to do.

We are so far behind the Chinese in so many ways now and the American people are so blind to it. And the current administration thinks it can overcome miscalculations of the past eight administrations? Not without a working relationship with the Chinese and understanding them. They are not going to be dictated to. Plenty of foreigners going to China for education and working careers, many becoming millionaires and billionaires. This is the new age. That is what used to happen here. Before we started showing the world we are not going to be welcoming the new minds and their creative technological advances... We are screwed in the new world order unless we work from the top down. (and looking around at the lazy average folks I see, we don't have the workforce here now.)

So I will put my foot in as a Republican against Trump. There. I have said it. He is not the answer. (Nor do I see anyone in the Democratic slate.) We Americans need much more intelligent leadership or we will continue to fall into the second level of world leading powers

I’m an independent, but I certainly feel Trump is a real danger to our national security and if anyone thinks he is the chosen one; they are deaf, dumb and blind.
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Joe Walsh



love his music

love his musicI know, huh?

Bob, I am a right leaning independent, brought up in a Republican house, but will vote for the person over party. And freely admit I voted against HRC and would probably do so again... but we wont get that choice. I am just hoping for a choice here.

Iran being invited to attend meetings says a lot about our relationship with our allies. That relationship is very important to world piece and Trump sh*t’s on it at every turn. Ross, I too was raised in a republican household and heard many heated debates over politics. Today marks the anniversary of the death of John McCain and as hard core a republican my dad as a decorated marine aviator, would have been absolutely livid over Trumps treatment of McCain and his disdain for our valued democratic allies.
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That relationship is very important to world piece

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yes, it's a puzzle

Iran being invited to attend meetings says a lot about our relationship with our allies. That relationship is very important to world piece and Trump sh*t’s on it at every turn. Ross, I too was raised in a republican household and heard many heated debates over politics. Today marks the anniversary of the death of John McCain and as hard core a republican my dad as a decorated marine aviator, would have been absolutely livid over Trumps treatment of McCain and his disdain for our valued democratic allies.
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As repulsive as his disdain of McCain and values may be, the more important issue is recognizing what our position has become within the world order. It is no longer as the leader and that wont be regained with our father's values, at least not without a little tweaking... The Chinese are going to tell us to pound sand.

I’d vote for Weld or Kasich over Warren or Bernie.
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I’d vote for Weld or Kasich over Warren or Bernie.
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I'd vote for Flo from Progressive before I'd vote for Weld or Kasich or Warren or Bernie.

I'd vote for Flo from Progressive before I'd vote for Weld or Kasich or Warren or Bernie.

Based on what?

Based on what?

A closed mind.
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A closed mind.
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wouldn't that be an open mind? first woman president

He likes tools, Flo has one and he helped elect one.
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He likes tools, Flo has one and he helped elect one.
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I didn't vote for trump dummy...:jester:

I didn't vote for trump dummy...:jester:

Let him go,he is showing off his smarts again!🤡
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Based on what?

Bernie is a communist
Warren is a lunatic
Weld is an idiot
Kasich was in government since 1979(40 years) so past his expiration date as far as I'm concerned

Bernie is a communist
Warren is a lunatic
Weld is an idiot
Kasich was in government since 1979(40 years) so past his expiration date as far as I'm concerned

And some how Trump is a better choice then all of them .. reason none given
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Walsh claimed Obama was a Muslim and born in Kenya.

Walsh claimed Obama was a Muslim and born in Kenya.

and his Maserati does 185...

And some how Trump is a better choice then all of them
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yes...but if Flo challenged trump...i might support Flo

yes...but if Flo challenged trump...i might support Flo


Mr Trump asked why the US couldn't drop a bomb into the eye of the storm to stop it from making landfall,

sadly it did not come from the onion

https://politics.theonion.com/aides-struggle-to-stop-dozens-of-kerosene-soaked-republ-1837517131

and his Maserati does 185...

He’ll campaign on a promise to “Pick up all the dog poo BEFORE it gets hard”
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Mr Trump asked why the US couldn't drop a bomb into the eye of the storm to stop it from making landfall,

sadly it did not come from the onion



he's funnier than Bill Maher :hee:

Mr Trump asked why the US couldn't drop a bomb into the eye of the storm to stop it from making landfall,

sadly it did not come from the onion

https://politics.theonion.com/aides-struggle-to-stop-dozens-of-kerosene-soaked-republ-1837517131

But yet the link you supplied is from the onion
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But yet the link you supplied is from the onion
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that's onion worthy :rotf2:

Walsh claimed Obama was a Muslim and born in Kenya.
He's said or tweeted a giant list of bigoted or otherwise insensitive things over the years. He'll pull at a lot of Trump's base that's for sure :hihi:

He's said or tweeted a giant list of bigoted or otherwise insensitive things over the years. He'll pull at a lot of Trump's base that's for sure :hihi:

you should burn his albums :rollem:

Let him go,he is showing off his smarts again!🤡
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I haven’t cared to track who voted for who, but I do know who supports who and I also can easily predict when and who will be throwing out their usual insults.
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I haven’t cared to track who voted for who, but I do know who supports who and I also can easily predict when and who will be throwing out their usual insults.
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Yet you accuse him of helping elect Trump? Or did you just ASSume he did, Kreskin?
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Yet you accuse him of helping elect Trump? Or did you just ASSume he did, Kreskin?
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he's never wrong:rollem:

But yet the link you supplied is from the onion
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Yes and whats your point
Or do you need crayon font to grasp a comparison of what Trump said and an actual onion article
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Yes and whats your point
Or do you need crayon font to grasp a comparison of what Trump said and an actual onion article
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You don’t see the irony?
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A closed mind.
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Most minds realize what a chitshow electing Bernie would be. And if it was Bernie -v- Trump, all y'all would have moved me past my red line and I actually would vote for Trump.


Mr Trump asked why the US couldn't drop a bomb into the eye of the storm to stop it from making landfall,

sadly it did not come from the onion

https://politics.theonion.com/aides-struggle-to-stop-dozens-of-kerosene-soaked-republ-1837517131

A safer option some of the time is if the storm is female, we'd be better if Joe Biden chased it from behind.

I haven’t cared to track who voted for who, but I do know who supports who and I also can easily predict when and who will be throwing out their usual insults.
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True. But as someone that never voted for Trump I really hate how hard the left is pushing me to actually vote for him now.

Some of the things on the Dem's Platform are absolute non-starters for me.