Paraphrasing Wayne: Nobody is talking confiscation or your Second Amendment right

Also Paraphrasing Wayne: You better give up your "assault weapons of war" or they will be taken from you.

Beto: Hold My Kalejuice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXcL_I3uTGI

Didn't watch the debates but I think he has been saying that for a while.

He's not talking confiscation, simply expecting people to follow the future firearms laws.

Didn't watch the debates but I think he has been saying that for a while.

In 2018 he says If you own it, keep it. Continue to use it
2019 he says Hell yes, we are going to take your AR-15. And he has that written on a shirt he is selling for fundraising for the sheep to buy to support his twisted logic. Guns for me but not for thee. Walls for me but not for thee.
Our government works for us, not the other way around.

He's not talking confiscation, simply expecting people to follow the future firearms laws.
Try to follow along Spence, he comes right out and says it and you say he is not talking confiscation :huh: They have been chipping away since the 30's and there seems to be no end in sight. He is a tyrant plain and simple.

Try to follow along Spence, he comes right out and says it and you say he is not talking confiscation :huh: They have been chipping away since the 30's and there seems to be no end in sight. He is a tyrant plain and simple.
I think he's simply saying to make them illegal and people will do the right thing and turn them in, perhaps a buyback program.

Personally I don't find that a very workable solution as the there are just too many assault weapons out there. Doesn't mean we shouldn't take action though. There are a lot of common sense mechanisms that can be taken to make it harder for assault weapons to be in the hands of bad people that have majority public support.

When you confiscate guns, only the criminals will have guns. Why don’t people get this? Any one planning on using them for ill gain sure as hell are not going to surrender them.
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I think he's simply saying to make them illegal and people will do the right thing and turn them in, perhaps a buyback program.

Personally I don't find that a very workable solution as the there are just too many assault weapons out there. Doesn't mean we shouldn't take action though. There are a lot of common sense mechanisms that can be taken to make it harder for assault weapons to be in the hands of bad people that have majority public support.

Take action? as in the thought police? 300 million people suspected of a precrime, brilliant. Not going to happen. Those AR-15's in the hands of law abiding responsible citizens purchased legally and used lawfully are no threat to anyone other than tyrants who choose to step on peoples' rights. They will be removed from office if they continue down their path.
I can think of a hundred other things that should be done and most of them will get just as much pushback, there is no easy answer. These idiots are just getting more people to buy guns before they can't. I hope they do use common sense to keep firearms(and so called assault weapons) from bad people.
It's funny when law enforcement uses an AR-15 the media calls it a rifle, but when a maniac uses one it is an assault weapon. They are inanimate objects that need a human being to pull a trigger in order to shoot a bullet at a high rate of speed at what it is aiming at. Statists are quick to blame an object and violate the Constitutional rights of others in their lazy attempt to solve a problem.

When you confiscate guns, only the criminals will have guns. Why don’t people get this? Any one planning on using them for ill gain sure as hell are not going to surrender them.
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because they are short sighted
no attention span
use emotions in their judgement and decision making
go along with the new shiny
mindless sheep
have no sense of self reliance
etc. etc.

There are enough people out there who rely on government and politicians are who they listen to , mostly because they have been indoctrinated.

He's not talking confiscation, simply expecting people to follow the future firearms laws.

in this video, about 2:00 in, Beto says “hell yes, we’re going to take your AR-15, your AK-47.”

but he’s not talking about confiscation.

i think my days here are drawing to a close, i used to actually learn things and enjoyed respectful debates. it’s not as available as it used to be, TDS has completely taken over. you’re being absolutely irrational.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/09/12/beto-orourke-hell-yes-take-your-guns/2307399001/
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because they are short sighted
no attention span
use emotions in their judgement and decision making
go along with the new shiny
mindless sheep
have no sense of self reliance
etc. etc.

There are enough people out there who rely on government and politicians are who they listen to , mostly because they have been indoctrinated.

Yup. I agree
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Please get back to me when he gets elected. Now even buying your guns is considered confiscation.. lol
And yes you'll losse your guns eventually because the only steps you took to keep them was redefining the Constitution.. and yelling confiscation..and that some how you have the right to own military weapons.. but Omg vaping and marketing towards children needs to be addressed .. before gun industry and gun lobby market guns to children ..
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in this video, about 2:00 in, Beto says “hell yes, we’re going to take your AR-15, your AK-47.”

but he’s not talking about confiscation.
Like I said, I believe he's talking about a buyback. Seems like polls consistently show ~60% favor an assault weapons ban. Not sure what's with the freak out aside from the NRA brainwashing people to believe they're going to be doing battle with the US Armed Forces in the near future.

Definitely some challenging issues to really remove most military style weapons considering how many there are but I'm sure a reasonable plan can be made. Wonder if the NRA's stranglehold on the GOP is weaker and could lead to progress.

Like I said, I believe he's talking about a buyback. Seems like polls consistently show ~60% favor an assault weapons ban. Not sure what's with the freak out aside from the NRA brainwashing people to believe they're going to be doing battle with the US Armed Forces in the near future.



Beto is an idiot and ^^^this is stupid...you and they don't even know what an assault weapon is

probably not battling with the military but with the way the american left is trending.... I'm glad I'm on the side that tends to collect firearms and stockpile ammunition :laugha:

Stupid comment and he probably killed his chances. But stupid isn’t limited to that stage, as Trump complained the light bulbs we are being forced to us make him look orange.
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Stupid comment and he probably killed his chances.

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chances for what?

Please get back to me when he gets elected. Now even buying your guns is considered confiscation.. lol
And yes you'll losse your guns eventually because the only steps you took to keep them was redefining the Constitution.. and yelling confiscation..and that some how you have the right to own military weapons.. but Omg vaping and marketing towards children needs to be addressed .. before gun industry and gun lobby market guns to children ..
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No, he is not saying he is going to give citizens the option to turn in firearms, he is saying he will go in and take them.

I don't own any military weapons. But go ahead and move the conversation to vaping.

BTW - I'll sell mine (price in 2018 dollars):

chances for what?
Gee wiz what is he running for🤪
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https://store.betoorourke.com/hell-yes-were-going-to-take-your-ar-15-unisex-womens-styles/




https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-ji4m1ij20h/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/182/544/beto_men__05858.1568342156.jpg?c=2&imbypass=on

Gee wiz what is he running for��
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I love his resume...you couldn't make this up

After graduation, O'Rourke worked as a live-in caretaker and art mover before working for an Internet service provider run by his uncle. He later took a position at H. W. Wilson Company as a proofreader, and wrote short stories and songs in his free time.

O'Rourke returned to El Paso in 1998. At first, he was working with computers as an inventory tracker at his mother's upscale furniture store and living in an apartment building owned by his father. O'Rourke said he wanted to address "brain-drain", or the exodus of youth caused by lack of opportunity. In 2000, he co-founded Stanton Street Technology Group, an Internet services and software company. With O'Rourke himself unable to obtain a loan, his father took out a $20,000 loan on his behalf. The company's first client was O'Rourke's mother's furniture store.

Beto and Amy O'Rourke are estimated to have a net worth of $4 million, acquired as gifts from their well-to-do parents.

brain drain

I love his resume...you couldn't make this up

After graduation, O'Rourke worked as a live-in caretaker and art mover before working for an Internet service provider run by his uncle. He later took a position at H. W. Wilson Company as a proofreader, and wrote short stories and songs in his free time.

O'Rourke returned to El Paso in 1998. At first, he was working with computers as an inventory tracker at his mother's upscale furniture store and living in an apartment building owned by his father. O'Rourke said he wanted to address "brain-drain", or the exodus of youth caused by lack of opportunity. In 2000, he co-founded Stanton Street Technology Group, an Internet services and software company. With O'Rourke himself unable to obtain a loan, his father took out a $20,000 loan on his behalf. The company's first client was O'Rourke's mother's furniture store.

Beto and Amy O'Rourke are estimated to have a net worth of $4 million, acquired as gifts from their well-to-do parents.

brain drain
So he’s eminently qualified?
The Times concluded that Donald Trump "was a millionaire by age 8", and that he had received at least $413 million (adjusted for inflation) from his father's business empire over his lifetime. According to the Times, Trump borrowed at least $60 million from his father, and largely failed to reimburse him.
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Like I said, I believe he's talking about a buyback. Seems like polls consistently show ~60% favor an assault weapons ban. Not sure what's with the freak out aside from the NRA brainwashing people to believe they're going to be doing battle with the US Armed Forces in the near future.

Definitely some challenging issues to really remove most military style weapons considering how many there are but I'm sure a reasonable plan can be made. Wonder if the NRA's stranglehold on the GOP is weaker and could lead to progress.

when the buyback is
mandatory, please differentiate it from confiscation. when governments seize houses
via eminent domain, homeowners get paid. but their homes
are confiscated, taken by the government through force of law. can you talk sense for a nanosecond?

oh, polls decide what’s good
policy in your mind? show me polls
that show how many Americans favor abortion until the moment of
birth?
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when governments seize houses
via eminent domain, homeowners get paid. but their homes
are confiscated, taken by the government through force of law.
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Why are you bringing Trump’s wall into this?
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doesn't take long for the thread to go downhill
:nopics:

Democratic voters over the last week, found O'Rourke's chances at the presidency stagnant and weak. The Texan had just three percent of the national vote

Lol gun guys using the guy with a snowballs chance in hell of getting elected to keep pushing the fantasies of their coming to take our guns.. how desperate can you be?
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Nobody is coming, even if such an idiot is elected. This is an unenforceable fallacy made for flakes to get a chubby.
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Nobody is coming, even if such an idiot is elected. This is an unenforceable fallacy made for flakes to get a chubby.
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Kind of like when an idiot said “we’re going to drain the swamp”.
Got it.
:hihi:
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So he’s eminently qualified?


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he's eminently qualified to be a democrat member of congress for life..he's practically a kennedy

Why are you bringing Trump’s wall into this?
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he isn't...something trigger you?

when the buyback is
mandatory, please differentiate it from confiscation
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he thinks he's pretty slick...

The Times concluded that Donald Trump "was a millionaire by age 8", and that he had received at least $413 million (adjusted for inflation) from his father's business empire over his lifetime. According to the Times, Trump borrowed at least $60 million from his father, and largely failed to reimburse him.
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trump's net worth is 3 billion

beto's net worth is still the 4 million his parents gave him(I don't know if that's adjusted for inflation)

Kind of like when an idiot said “we’re going to drain the swamp”.
Got it.
:hihi:
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No, more like saying Mexico will pay for the wall.
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Democratic voters over the last week, found O'Rourke's chances at the presidency stagnant and weak. The Texan had just three percent of the national vote

Lol gun guys using the guy with a snowballs chance in hell of getting elected to keep pushing the fantasies of their coming to take our guns.. how desperate can you be?
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ok biden is the front runner, and he’s saying the same thing, confiscating “assault weapons”.

look, i’m pretty liberal on guns, im not even saying i disagree with them. but it’s a sign of how deranged the left is, that you guys are denying they’re talking about confiscation, when that’s exactly what they are saying.

you are denying what they are explicitly saying. it’s hilarious. tds has taken over...
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ok biden is the front runner, and he’s saying the same thing, confiscating “assault weapons”.

look, i’m pretty liberal on guns, im not even saying i disagree with them. but it’s a sign of how deranged the left is, that you guys are denying they’re talking about confiscation, when that’s exactly what they are saying.

you are denying what they are explicitly saying. it’s hilarious. tds has taken over...
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This isn't TDS, this is a willful lack of acknowledgement of what has been said and discussed. It is the bridge between nobody is going to confiscate your guns with a mandatory buyback or we'll kick your doors down.

This is like the bridge between secure borders with applications to immigrate legal aliens to undocumented workers to let's open the borders and give the undocumented free medical insurance and welfare.

This isn't TDS, this is a willful lack of acknowledgement of what has been said and discussed. It is the bridge between nobody is going to confiscate your guns with a mandatory buyback or we'll kick your doors down.

This is like the bridge between secure borders with applications to immigrate legal aliens to undocumented workers to let's open the borders and give the undocumented free medical insurance and welfare.


it’s a mental disorder john. biden or beto day something, then they deny he said it. i posted a video, that wasn’t enough.

they can no longer exhibit any rationality unless it serves liberalism.
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ok biden is the front runner, and he’s saying the same thing, confiscating “assault weapons”.

look, i’m pretty liberal on guns, im not even saying i disagree with them. but it’s a sign of how deranged the left is, that you guys are denying they’re talking about confiscation, when that’s exactly what they are saying.

you are denying what they are explicitly saying. it’s hilarious. tds has taken over...
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Your lost in this preoccupation with confiscation .. just because people think weapons of war assault weapons shouldn't be on our streets is so far from confiscation its funny.. but please keep using Bento as the poster child of they are comming for your Guns and whos the guy from Texas tweeting his Ar 15 is ready for Bento both using extreme outlandish comments and ideas for votes ..
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Your lost in this preoccupation with confiscation .. just because people think weapons of war assault weapons shouldn't be on our streets is so far from confiscation its funny.. but please keep using Bento as the poster child of they are comming for your Guns and whos the guy from Texas tweeting his Ar 15 is ready for Bento both using extreme outlandish comments and ideas for votes ..
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try to follow here. biden says if he wins, he wants the feds to taken existing assault weapons
from citizens who have them.

how is that not the textbook definition of confiscation.

i’m not obsessed with confiscation. i am stupefied that you and spence
would deny that they are saying, what they explicitly said. the topic
doesn’t matter.
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This isn't TDS, this is a willful lack of acknowledgement of what has been said and discussed. It is the bridge between nobody is going to confiscate your guns with a mandatory buyback or we'll kick your doors down.
Beto in an interview after said specifically nobody was going to be kicking doors down.

Beto in an interview after said specifically nobody was going to be kicking doors down.

so what? they don’t kick
my doors down to get any of the taxes they get from
me, it’s still confiscation.

what are you afraid will happen, exactly, if you admit it’s a form
of confiscation?
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Your lost in this preoccupation with confiscation .. just because people think weapons of war assault weapons shouldn't be on our streets is so far from confiscation its funny.. but please keep using Bento as the poster child of they are comming for your Guns and whos the guy from Texas tweeting his Ar 15 is ready for Bento both using extreme outlandish comments and ideas for votes ..
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They are not legally on the streets, some are illegally on the streets.

"Weapons of War Assault Weapons" or whatever you want to call them this week should have access removed from the unstable. Existing laws and checks should be enforced (clue, they are not). Access to felons need to be further curbed.


Beto in an interview after said specifically nobody was going to be kicking doors down.

Then how will he do it?

probably gonna ride in on a skateboard and take em'

only with the any regulation leads to confiscation 2A crowd would they see a Combat Veteran 31 year correctional officer and licensed to carry holder in MA for expressing the believe assault weapons should not be owned by the general public.. and not towing NRA talking points is
considered a gun grabber .. and voted off the island

this is the logic , that causes the process to be addressed with out you Because if i already know the answer is NO .. why should anyone ask..

They are not legally on the streets, some are illegally on the streets.

"Weapons of War Assault Weapons" or whatever you want to call them this week should have access removed from the unstable. Existing laws and checks should be enforced (clue, they are not). Access to felons need to be further curbed.




Then how will he do it?


love the dancing around of what an assault rifle is just playing the loop hole game

its not an assault weapon theres no bayonet lug :btu:

only with the any regulation leads to confiscation 2A crowd would they see a Combat Veteran 31 year correctional officer and licensed to carry holder in MA for expressing the believe assault weapons should not be owned by the general public.. and not towing NRA talking points is
considered a gun grabber .. and voted off the island

this is the logic , that causes the process to be addressed with out you Because if i already know the answer is NO .. why should anyone ask..

i might agree with you on the gun
issue. but don’t deny that beto and
biden are talking about confiscating the weapons out there.
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love the dancing around of what an assault rifle is just playing the loop hole game

its not an assault weapon theres no bayonet lug :btu:

Q: What is an assault weapon?
A: Any item used to assault somebody.
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only with the any regulation leads to confiscation 2A crowd would they see a Combat Veteran 31 year correctional officer and licensed to carry holder in MA for expressing the believe assault weapons should not be owned by the general public.. and not towing NRA talking points is
considered a gun grabber .. and voted off the island

this is the logic , that causes the process to be addressed with out you Because if i already know the answer is NO .. why should anyone ask..

And with your vast knowledge you know that the AR15, with 223 5.56 is considered a sub capable hunting rifle, and is outlawed for hunting most but small game. From the military perspective 5.56 is not as dangerous as the 7.62 NATO. They expected if you injure one enemy with the 5.56 you take two of his buds to carry the wounded off, netting three less soldiers to fight. Except this didn't work because it was not wounding / killing enough of the enemy, with the result being that the M-16/M4 (and derivatives) is considered a sub optimal rifle for infantry.

Keep in mind that the military versions of the M4 have higher reliability parts, and have the ability to actually go full automatic - plus grenade launchers and such, like Short Barrelled Rifles (illegal in many states including New England). But you already know this.

So the Army is now looking at a 6.5/6.8 caliber in order to reach out a little further and actually hurt the enemy more.

You also surely know that of the tens of thousands of deaths per year are 99% crime / gang violence and suicide - both things that really need to be worked on, and not the 0.5% of deaths caused by "Weapons of War Assault Weapons" (your words). And that 0.5% of the problem, gun violence, is not what is focused on and properly addressed.

So when those that want to work on the gun issue are told by the other side "no, we're gonna mandatory buyback of legally owned rifles, cough, weapons of war, cough" from the millions of responsible, law abiding citizens of this country, we're lockstep in NRA talking points? GMAFB. Your argument is weak and does little to none to address actual Gun Violence and death. Your argument is a simple grab that penalizes lawful citizens and will do but a tiny bit to help anything but suppress the rights of those that responsibly own and possess firearms.

Again, keep ALL firearms out of the hands of people that should not have access to them, enforce the EXISTING laws that are on the books, get the guns doing the actual killing off the streets, and leave the legal people the fvck alone.






love the dancing around of what an assault rifle is just playing the loop hole game

its not an assault weapon theres no bayonet lug :btu:

See my comments above - your argument is crap and you know it.

And with your vast knowledge you know that the AR15, with 223 5.56 is considered a sub capable hunting rifle, and is outlawed for hunting most but small game. From the military perspective 5.56 is not as dangerous as the 7.62 NATO. They expected if you injure one enemy with the 5.56 you take two of his buds to carry the wounded off, netting three less soldiers to fight. Except this didn't work because it was not wounding / killing enough of the enemy, with the result being that the M-16/M4 (and derivatives) is considered a sub optimal rifle for infantry.

Keep in mind that the military versions of the M4 have higher reliability parts, and have the ability to actually go full automatic - plus grenade launchers and such, like Short Barrelled Rifles (illegal in many states including New England). But you already know this.

So the Army is now looking at a 6.5/6.8 caliber in order to reach out a little further and actually hurt the enemy more.

You also surely know that of the tens of thousands of deaths per year are 99% crime / gang violence and suicide - both things that really need to be worked on, and not the 0.5% of deaths caused by "Weapons of War Assault Weapons" (your words). And that 0.5% of the problem, gun violence, is not what is focused on and properly addressed.

So when those that want to work on the gun issue are told by the other side "no, we're gonna mandatory buyback of legally owned rifles, cough, weapons of war, cough" from the millions of responsible, law abiding citizens of this country, we're lockstep in NRA talking points? GMAFB. Your argument is weak and does little to none to address actual Gun Violence and death. Your argument is a simple grab that penalizes lawful citizens and will do but a tiny bit to help anything but suppress the rights of those that responsibly own and possess firearms.

Again, keep ALL firearms out of the hands of people that should not have access to them, enforce the EXISTING laws that are on the books, get the guns doing the actual killing off the streets, and leave the legal people the fvck alone.








See my comments above - your argument is crap and you know it.
The only crap arugment I see is the word No. When it comes to gun any regulation ..

It takes 1 second to look at gun ads there not selling 5.56 weapons for varmint guns . There selling them so people can think their operators . With all the rail stuff associated .. I know plenty ..practicality is not the reason they own one nor is self defense..thats just the 1st reason when you say that looks like what we had in Iraq


No one says Legal gun owner cant possesse guns no matter how hard you insist thats the plan. There are just some weapons and we all know the types were talking about should not be in circulation .. whats out is out and i have zero illusions were going door to door to get them . But stopping the flow sounds good to me
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The only crap arugment I see is the word No. When it comes to gun any regulation ..

It takes 1 second to look at gun ads there not selling 5.56 weapons for varmint guns . There selling them so people can think their operators . With all the rail stuff associated .. I know plenty ..practicality is not the reason they own one nor is self defense..thats just the 1st reason when you say that looks like what we had in Iraq


No one says Legal gun owner cant possesse guns no matter how hard you insist thats the plan. There are just some weapons and we all know the types were talking about should not be in circulation .. whats out is out and i have zero illusions were going door to door to get them . But stopping the flow sounds good to me
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I want to see people that should not have access to these weapons not gain access to them. But I am talking Firearms, period.

You and your leaders are willing to suppress my rights - I am not trying to suppress your rights.

We have laws on the books that are not enforced - enforce them.
We have school and gov officials that go and enable the circumvention of rules that would prevent things like this and then cast the blame elsewhere.

Those of us willing to discuss options are ground out and silenced by the people YOU follow.

It’s time for a new constitutional convention. Better yet how about a totally new government body. Throw them all out.
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Then how will he do it?
He believes (hopes) people will follow the law.

The same folks who stomp their feet about alleged assault rifles don’t even give a frack about the Chicago shat show. Cherry pickers and feigned,selective outrage that suits their agenda.
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I want to see people that should not have access to these weapons not gain access to them. But I am talking Firearms, period.

You and your leaders are willing to suppress my rights - I am not trying to suppress your rights.



Those of us willing to discuss options are ground out and silenced by the people YOU follow.

The only people ground out and silenced are the avg gun owners .. by the NRA .. not anyone I follow. But nice try
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The same folks who stomp their feet about alleged assault rifles don’t even give a frack about the Chicago shat show. Cherry pickers and feigned,selective outrage that suits their agenda.
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Chicago is the most cherry picked for an agenda. Your correct ..but by guess who. .
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He believes (hopes) people will follow the law.

Kind of like thinking everyone will follow the law and NOT KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE?!? 😂😂😂
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The same folks who stomp their feet about alleged assault rifles don’t even give a frack about the Chicago shat show. Cherry pickers and feigned,selective outrage that suits their agenda.
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Different issues, different solutions.

Kind of like thinking everyone will follow the law and NOT KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE?!? 😂😂😂
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We've been told the vast majority of assault weapon owners are law abiding citizens...yet now you want to turn them into criminals?

We've been told the vast majority of assault weapon owners are law abiding citizens...yet now you want to turn them into criminals?

seems that went right over your head...want a mulligan?

seems that went right over your head...want a mulligan?
You don’t get it
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You don’t get it
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I get that you have no idea what you are talking about :)

Different issues, different solutions.

But where is the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& outrage?
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