Is this what Trump supports want the Face of America to be?

Replace Somali refugee with Jew in his Rally speech and it sounds all to familiar to what we've seen throughout History... I guess just more hyperbole

At a rally in Minnesota

The president soon widened his attack to target Somali refugees in Minnesota, a group that includes Omar, a naturalized U.S. citizen who was born in the East African country. He promised rally attendees, who booed loudly at the mention of the state’s Somali residents, that he would “give local communities a greater say in refugee policy and put in place enhanced vetting and responsible immigration controls.”

“As you know, for many years, leaders in Washington brought large numbers of refugees to your state from Somalia without considering the impact on schools and communities and taxpayers,” Trump said as some in the crowd jeered, adding, “You should be able to decide what is best for your own cities and for your own neighborhoods, and that’s what you have the right to do right now, and believe me, no other president would be doing that.”

Your better strap in.
You’re getting 5 1/2 more years of him as your president.
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Dream on.............

Donald Trump took the news that a majority of registered voters think he should be removed from office with just the kind of childish attack on the Fox News poll everyone expected.

A new high of 51 percent wants Trump impeached and removed from office, another 4 percent want him impeached but not removed, and 40 percent oppose impeachment altogether. In July, 42 percent favored impeachment and removal, while 5 percent said impeach but don’t remove him, and 45 percent opposed impeachment.

Since July, support for impeachment increased among voters of all stripes: up 11 points among Democrats, 5 points among Republicans and 3 among independents. Support also went up among some of Trump’s key constituencies, including white evangelical Christians (+5 points), white men without a college degree (+8), and rural whites (+10).

let me make the point for some who may not understand or support his words

if Omar spoke the same words and replaced Somali with (JEW) the right would have a field day

And yet When Trump speaks in Such a manner the crowd goes wild

And Republicans remain silent

And Republicans remain silent

The silence has been deafening, yet as this Ukraine investigation thickens I predict there will soon be defections from the ranks. Any republicans in tight races aren’t sleeping well at night, their timing to jump ship has to be well thought out.

I think today’s testimony shows to others, you can do the right thing by testifying and ignore the White House insisting nobody should comply with congress.
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I predict ......

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oh good...another prediction

let me make the point for some who may not understand or support his words

if Omar spoke the same words and replaced Somali with (JEW) the right would have a field day

And yet When Trump speaks in Such a manner the crowd goes wild

And Republicans remain silent

Thank goodness for centrists are letting their voices be heard.
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Finally! A man stood up to Trump and honored a Congressional subpoena.

I’m kidding. No man has ever done that.

Only a woman has.
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It's disgusting.

Anyone else notice the AG Barr meets with Rupert Murdoch and two days later Shep is gone?

Thank goodness for centrists are letting their voices be heard.
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Glad to see you have no issue with what Trump said ... but then again nobodys suprised
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If I have an issue do I have to post it on the fishing board to validate such?
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let me make the point for some who may not understand or support his words

if Omar spoke the same words and replaced Somali with (JEW) the right would have a field day

And yet When Trump speaks in Such a manner the crowd goes wild

And Republicans remain silent




Ohmar says enough bad about the Jews, Trump wouldn't need to.

Frankly his son-in-law and some of his grandkids are Jewish, many of friends are Jewish. You are just trying to instigate.


Now the Portland Trailblazers after debating for a year are dropping their relationship for one of their local companies for doing business with Israeli Defense Forces. Maybe you should start a thread on that.



It's disgusting.

Anyone else notice the AG Barr meets with Rupert Murdoch and two days later Shep is gone?


Waiting to here more on this. Shep was decent - for Fox. But I am looking forward to all of the left media going to bat for him now because they can currently use Shep as an hammer against Trump. Just like the only time they support Romney or McCain is when they can bash Trump.

Sure be nice to have an even playing field. Might not have had Trump.

It turns out the lower-level civilian folks in government have more courage to stand up for our country than all the generals who surrounded President Trump and left quietly.
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Ohmar says enough bad about the Jews, Trump wouldn't need to.

Frankly his son-in-law and some of his grandkids are Jewish, many of friends are Jewish. You are just trying to instigate.


Now the Portland Trailblazers after debating for a year are dropping their relationship for one of their local companies for doing business with Israeli Defense Forces. Maybe you should start a thread on that.






Waiting to here more on this. Shep was decent - for Fox. But I am looking forward to all of the left media going to bat for him now because they can currently use Shep as an hammer against Trump. Just like the only time they support Romney or McCain is when they can bash Trump.

Sure be nice to have an even playing field. Might not have had Trump.

John you cant tell me Trumps comments are acceptable to be spoken by a Potus .. its not instigation you cant have 2 different standards .. How are My comments inflammatory. But Trumps are accaptable ?? I dont understand how you square that circle

Shephard got canned after bill barr had a meeting with Murdoch

And you minimize that with with a left media bias defense ..
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John speculation about how the Dems will use Shephard isn’t the concern for me, my concern is how the president is using our AG and it’s so alarming that Barr is willing to go along with it. In my mind there should be no reason for our AG to meet with a news stations owner, a station formed for one reason only, to advance and assist the republican parties agenda.
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[QUOTE=Pete F.;1176656]Dream on.............

What are you willing to put up to bet ?
He’s going to win in a landslide !
The only way they are going to defeat him is by killing him !
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I be careful you don’t bet the farm on that one, those new boat expenses aren’t cheap.
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I be careful you don’t bet the farm on that one, those new boat expenses aren’t cheap.
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Do worry about me, I do very well for myself but it’s not by sitting on my lazy ass like a Liberal looking for a handout.
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“You, too can rent the U.S. military ... even if you’ve flown jets into our skyscrapers.”
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Do worry about me, I do very well for myself but it’s not by sitting on my lazy ass like a Liberal looking for a handout.
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yea only non liberals do well for themselves.. you do bitch like like a liberal i'll give you that

He’s going to win in a landslide !
1/2 the country wants him impeached.
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I’m not worried as long as the next election is decided by Americans, not Russians
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1/2 the country wants him impeached.
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Sounds like it will be close.
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[QUOTE=spence;1176707]1/2 the country wants him impeached.
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Who is this 1/2 the country.
Try doing the polls after 6:00 pm when conservatives get home from work.
Selective polling by the left, just like they kept telling us Hillary was going to slaughter him.
All you need to see is the crowds at one of his rallies.
PACKED and thousands outside who couldn’t get in.
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Fox poll really gets Trump pissed, he loves them when their talking points are his and they are idiots when they put out poll numbers showing 51% of those polled what him removed. RR the polls are even broken down indicating there are democrats, republicans and independents included and I would love to know how you know what time of day the poll is taken😉
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This is great. I tried to bet our local snowflakes too. No takers,just talkers. There has never been easier money and their actions can’t keep pace with the hot air they spew.
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John speculation about how the Dems will use Shephard isn’t the concern for me, my concern is how the president is using our AG and it’s so alarming that Barr is willing to go along with it. In my mind there should be no reason for our AG to meet with a news stations owner, a station formed for one reason only, to advance and assist the republican parties agenda.
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Or how about Barr on a personal road trip to dig up dirt to support conspiracy theories?

Sounds like Rudy is now under investigation. Won’t be long before Trump dumps him.
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This is great. I tried to bet our local snowflakes too. No takers,just talkers. There has never been easier money and their actions can’t keep pace with the hot air they spew.
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You got that right Chris.
Nothing but talk and obsessed with hating the guy 7 days a week 24/7
Ide like to know who they think is going to beat him out of the fiend of clowns running on their side 🤣
They are so desperate this week they even started with 2 time loser Hillary talk as their candidate.
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Y
Ide like to know who they think is going to beat him out of the fiend of clowns running on their side 🤣
You need to start thinking of the idea that Trump may not be running.

You need to start thinking of the idea that Trump may not be running.

You better hope and maybe even pray that is the case. Something tells me otherwise.
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You better hope and maybe even pray that is the case. Something tells me otherwise.
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What is that?

The recent polling showing half the country would like to see him impeached?

The fact that he's entangled in a massive election scandal on Ukraine?

Or how about his solo decision on Syria that nobody left or right can even fathom and has compromised his evangelical support which without he can not win.

The recent polling showing half the country would like to see him impeached?

.

that's crap

Commander of Kurdish forces in Syria to US official:

"I need to know if u are capable of protecting my people, stopping these bombs falling on us or not... If not, I need to make a deal w/Russia & regime now & invite their planes to protect this region”
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Commander of Kurdish forces in Syria to US official:

"I need to know if u are capable of protecting my people, stopping these bombs falling on us or not... If not, I need to make a deal w/Russia & regime now & invite their planes to protect this region”
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It makes you wonder if this was Putin's plan all along. Nothing Trump is doing here makes any sense in the context of our interests.

its comical to see who thinks Trumps a stand up honorable Guy .. and who have no issues with the behavior of the Trump or his lies

who isn't at his rallies you should cause you concern not people who clearly have nothing better to do then attend a rally 1.5 years out from the election.. shouldn't they be working ?


they are the ones clearly.. who are suffering :humpty: from Trump derangement syndrome:humpty::horse:

that's crap

I'd have to agree, it's not half the country, it's half of those polled, but it does indicate that the opinion of where this should be going is changing. I think that is why Trump has really juiced up the rhetoric and tweeting lately.

[QUOTE=spence;1176728]What is that?

The recent polling showing half the country would like to see him impeached?

The fact that he's entangled in a massive election scandal on Ukraine?

For 3 years it was Russia Russia Russia
And countless millions wasted
Now it’s Ukraine and how many more millions will they waste and come up with nothing 🤔🤔🤔

Meanwhile we got Joe Biden on video bragging about holding up billions unless someone gets fired, his son involved and it’s like every liberal has a hearing aid and the batteries are dead 🧐
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Inviting foreign powers to interfere in our democratic process and our elections is wrong, whether it’s done by a Democrat or Republican. Profiting off the tax payers is wrong whether it’s a Democrat or Republican. Abusing the power of the White House for personal gain is wrong regardless of which party is the offender, I’m an independent and have voted both ways, this president and much of his administration is corrupt and I say let congress do its job and put it to a vote in the senate and 2020 if necessary.
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From Richard Engel NBC correspondent on the ground
Turkey’s conflict in Syria took a major turn today. First alleged atrocities by Turkish-backed Arab militias, executing Kurds. US military officials tell me it's true, and they are DEEPLY concerned it opens the door to BOTH ethnic cleansing of Kurds and return of ISIS/Al-Qaeda

The Turks are taking videos of themselves killing unarmed civilians, is that somehow acceptable to Americans?
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What is that?

The recent polling showing half the country would like to see him impeached?

The fact that he's entangled in a massive election scandal on Ukraine?

Or how about his solo decision on Syria that nobody left or right can even fathom and has compromised his evangelical support which without he can not win.
The very fact that you are convinced that it will happen. This makes it a certainty that it will not. You are the absolute worst at making predictions on politics. But keep throwing scat at the walls and make sure you stay up with the latest polls. JUST REMEMBER ABOUT POLLS.
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Nixon was safe also and he didn’t sell out his country like Putin’s Puppet
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Nixon did the right thing and resigned, Trump has never done the right thing, so he probably will need to be cuffed and shown the door. Better yet take him right to a NY district attorney van for the drive to court for arraignment.
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[QUOTE=spence;1176728]What is that?

The recent polling showing half the country would like to see him impeached?

The fact that he's entangled in a massive election scandal on Ukraine?

For 3 years it was Russia Russia Russia
And countless millions wasted
Now it’s Ukraine and how many more millions will they waste and come up with nothing 🤔🤔🤔

Meanwhile we got Joe Biden on video bragging about holding up billions unless someone gets fired, his son involved and it’s like every liberal has a hearing aid and the batteries are dead 🧐
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But but Bengiza. TDS at its best
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But but Bengiza.

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wayne at his best :laugha:

Nixon did the right thing and resigned, Trump has never done the right thing, so he probably will need to be cuffed and shown the door. Better yet take him right to a NY district attorney van for the drive to court for arraignment.
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But but Nixon, TDS at its best
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I hope she wins

What is that?

The recent polling showing half the country would like to see him impeached?

.

told you it was crap...if they continue the constant barrage the can probably improve on the numbers though...


https://nypost.com/2019/10/12/fox-news-pollster-braun-research-misrepresented-impeachment-poll-analysis/

John you cant tell me Trumps comments are acceptable to be spoken by a Potus .. its not instigation you cant have 2 different standards .. How are My comments inflammatory. But Trumps are accaptable ?? I dont understand how you square that circle

Shephard got canned after bill barr had a meeting with Murdoch

And you minimize that with with a left media bias defense ..
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I have issues with things stated by multiple Presidents and elected officials. Including this one.

Here is the thing: A lot of the things he says can be debated as to how bad the statement is. Problem is that a lot of the things he says, while tone deaf (or instigating), are not the end of the world as many on the left cry in shock and horror. We've died twelve times over (34 Scaramouchis?) now from Net Neutrality and apparently I've stolen Greta's childhood.

Many people in the right and center no longer care at the outrage of the left.


What you said here - and maybe you missed it: Imagine if Trump was calling out Jews instead of Somalis like Omar.

What I said was, Omar DOES call out the Jews.

You cannot use the plight and oppression of the Jews as a foil against Trump over Omar when he does not use the Jews in that way, and yet she DOES use them in that way. Up to the point where she has been the focus of Congressional Censure that got watered down ant the last minute.

Many people in the right and center no longer care at the outrage of the left.

Exactly, the incessant caterwauling by the left as been relegated to being nothing more than a bed room fan, just white noise whirring in the background.
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oh good...more stupidity from the left...


San Francisco Chronicle:

SACRAMENTO — Undocumented immigrants and other non-citizens will be allowed to serve on state boards and commissions after Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a package of bills Saturday intended to integrate immigrants further into society.

Exactly, the incessant caterwauling by the left as been relegated to being nothing more than a bed room fan, just white noise whirring in the background.
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", just white noise whirring in the background." up until the point it is generating humor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoO-LFiuP80

", just white noise whirring in the background." up until the point it is generating humor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoO-LFiuP80

why do people on the right associate every liberal on the left with clearly crazy left people ... but get upset when the left associates them with the far right or white supremacy.. and suggest the center is also upset... but you can't be in the center , because you dont agree with them but they haven't defined what they accept as center ?

why do people on the right associate every liberal on the left with clearly crazy left people ... but get upset when the left associates them with the far right or white supremacy.. and suggest the center is also upset... but you can't be in the center , because you dont agree with them but they haven't defined what they accept as center ?




This is overseas where there is enough crazy. I chose not to post something from this country - could have found it of course.

Why do people on the left feel that those that do not agree with them are fascists and racists? Why do a lot of people on the left feel that those supporting Trump makes them a fascist?



Why do people that identify as center, are not center, continue to tell everyone else what the center is ; ) ?

Will the real classic liberals please stand up

Why do people that identify as center, are not center, continue to tell everyone else what the center is ; ) ?

Will the real classic liberals please stand up
I’m not sure you have any real liberals on this site to stand up. I know some hardcore progressives and they are way, way, way to the left of me.
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I’m not sure you have any real liberals on this site to stand up. I know some hardcore progressives and they are way, way, way to the left of me.
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence

I know some hardcore progressives and they are way, way, way to the left of me.






:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



he's :screwy:

We need to do a little less bashing of each other around here.

This is overseas where there is enough crazy. I chose not to post something from this country - could have found it of course.

Why do people on the left feel that those that do not agree with them are fascists and racists? John that's a right talking point and you know that what get play by fox and conservatives some people do automatically dump all conservatives in this category and many right leaning people clearly support candidates who are clearly Racists didn't think that was debatable

Why do a lot of people on the left feel that those supporting Trump makes them a fascist?

When you watch his rallies hear his words witness his behavior and actions as POTUS and still support him 100% regardless that makes you fascist? not the goose stepping kind but clearly those who enjoy An authoritarian ultranationalism dictatorial type leader , and forcible suppression of opposition the media is the enemy of the people stuff

You dont get the privilege of owning only things you like about Trump





Why do people that identify as center, are not center, continue to tell everyone else what the center is ; ) ?


You still havent told us what is center to you? are you a centerest



Will the real classic liberals please stand up

I think you should be asking the classic Republicans to stand up.. rather than selling out


Moderates Are 'Politically Homeless.' Does Either Party Want Them?

We need to do a little less bashing of each other around here.

I agree
push back against a position with a counter position (lables and name calling or personal insults are clearly not a counter position )

We need to do a little less bashing of each other around here.

Good luck, some leopards just never change their spots. They bitch so much about how the left just hates Trump, yet their rhetoric and constant insults proof how much they hate anyone expressing legitimate concerns over their guy.
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Good luck, some leopards just never change their spots. They bitch so much about how the left just hates Trump, yet their rhetoric and constant insults proof how much they hate anyone expressing legitimate concerns over their guy.
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Coming from the “concern a day” club must have privileges. If you are constant in your criticism then I am sure you know what to expect at this point.
Do you have any friends that whine about the same crap on a daily basis? Do you constantly embrace them and tell them everything will be ok? Or do you kick them in the pants and tell them to move on with their lives? I honestly just don’t think you realize there is a point where the message gets diluted. Think about it.

Yes,you have earned the right to complain. Just as some are justified in complaining about the constant complaining.
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The difference I think is that I don’t lower myself to juvenile insults and at times some really offensive statements and being an adult with control; if you don’t want to read the reaction of the day to the stupid arrse tweet or move of the day by Cheeto; be strong and walk away. Go take a walk, play or call one of your kids, go take a few casts, go wrap a rod, I suspect there are lots of chores to do; but instead you bitch, bitch, insult and insult some more, show some self control.
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So there you go. An action gets a reaction but you cling to innocence. Show some self control and you just might get the same in turn.

Or just keep digging the hole, your choice.
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The difference I think is that I don’t lower myself to juvenile insults...

the stupid arrse tweet or move of the day by Cheeto

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this is like wayne and spence claiming to be centrists :jester:

Sure nothing to be concerned about, Trump wakes up and addresses Hunters interview performance, that of course is FAR more important than trying to undo the mess he created in Syria. SD almost never actually debates, it’s more of the same, greatest president, burger or yada yada. Scott is Mr. Whataboutism, Jim at least has good points worth debate at times and makes an effort to keep it above board. You two are echo chambers of the talking point of the day and throw insults around like twelve year olds.

Hey try this, explain why it’s OK for Trump to take a phone call and make a reversal of long time policy throwing the Kurds under the buss in the process without sitting down to discuss with ANYONE? That move is troubling to me and not just for the reasons I’ve already stated, what other impulsive moves with our military is he capable of making?
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ISIS was defeated.

Until Donald Trump set them free.

All by himself.

He caved to foreign powers to protect his bottom line.

Left our allies to be slaughtered.

Ordered American troops to cut and run.

Our soldiers call it an act of betrayal.

Trump calls it winning.

And ISIS agrees.

it's funny how you two paint narratives that didn't happen then act perplexed by the narratives you painted and act shocked that nobody is as upset as you are...good greif

it's funny how you two paint narratives that didn't happen then act perplexed by the narratives you painted and act shocked that nobody is as upset as you are...good greif

The next President of the United States will be on stage tonight.

it's funny how you two paint narratives that didn't happen then act perplexed by the narratives you painted and act shocked that nobody is as upset as you are...good greif

What narrative painted above is wrong? Did he or did he not pull troops from the northern boarder after one phone call and it’s been confirmed there was no input from most of the key departments who would normally be key in this type of decision. Or maybe all the reporting about the results of that troop pull out are fake news as well.
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I think you should be asking the classic Republicans to stand up.. rather than selling out


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Stand up and go where?

I did not vote for Trump but if the alternative is what I have been seeing from the Dem Debates so far than I am surely not voting for one of them.

I think (hopefully) we can survive 4 more years of Trump, but I am not sure we can survive 4 years of a Progressive left in power.

but I am not sure we can survive 4 years of a Progressive left in power.

Talk about letting the genie out of the bottle.🙄
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Stand up and go where?
.

To the left, John, waaaaaay to the left, that way they can feel better about what they consider center.
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Stand up and go where?

I did not vote for Trump but if the alternative is what I have been seeing from the Dem Debates so far than I am surely not voting for one of them.

I think (hopefully) we can survive 4 more years of Trump, but I am not sure we can survive 4 years of a Progressive left in power.

Lets try getting them standing up to Trump 1st . Never suggested they go any where.. ?

And if you think a progressive puts this country at greater peril than another 4 years of Trump . Your farther to the right than I am left .that for sure
As for Debates they're no better than Trumps rallies writing checks making promises they cant cash. And a congress wont entertain it any way . look at the Senate they wont bring anything to the floor unless they know Trump will sign it.. hows that for democracy and debate
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The next President of the United States will be on stage tonight.

ummmm...I hope you watched that :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

What narrative painted above is wrong?

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pretty much every narrative you paint is wrong, embellished, exaggerated and hints of severe crankiness...but it's ok, I know it makes you feel better to vent....:huh:

What a strong case and wonderful list of counterpoints 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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What a strong case and wonderful list of counterpoints 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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I'm confident that you will continue to prove me correct