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Sunday will mark the second birthday of President Trump’s signature legislative achievement: a nearly $2 trillion, deficit-financed tax cut weighted toward corporations and the wealthy. Unfortunately, on this birthday — like the first one — our toddler is way behind on nearly all its developmental milestones.

Americans were promised, for instance, that the tax cuts wouldn’t add a penny to federal deficits. In fact, they would more than pay for themselves, reducing government debt.

When virtually every single independent analyst predicted the opposite, Republicans attacked the refs. But the refs were right.

In the fiscal year that recently ended, the deficit once again widened, to nearly $1 trillion. That is 26 percent higher than the deficit in fiscal 2018 and an astounding 48 percent higher relative to 2017, the last full year before the tax cuts were in place.

Yes, the deficit went up partly because spending did. But it has also increased because tax revenue isn’t coming in nearly as strongly as you’d expect during an economic expansion. In fact, thanks to Trump’s tax overhaul, corporate tax revenue is down more than a fifth since fiscal 2017. The Congressional Budget Office has predicted that the legislation overall will end up adding nearly $2 trillion in red ink over a decade.

As you may recall, the tax law’s boosters promised it would pay for itself by supercharging the economy. Just two weeks before signing the bill, Trump foresaw “6 percent growth.” If true, that would have been quite an achievement — roughly triple what independent forecasters predicted for the upcoming decade.

Today, Trump and his most craven Capitol Hill allies claim they’ve delivered. During Wednesday’s impeachment debate, in fact, Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) pronounced that Trump shouldn’t be impeached because the economy is “growing at levels that we have never seen in the history of our country.”

This is a lie.

Not that strong gross domestic product growth would be a get-out-of-impeachment-free card, but in reality the economy is on track to grow slightly more than 2 percent this year. That’s respectable, sure, especially given the country’s demographic challenges. But it’s below the average during the postwar period (about 3 percent) and well below the rate when Bill Clinton was impeached (4.5 percent).

It’s also pretty close to that long-run trend predicted before these tax cuts.

Dig a little deeper, and the GOP’s pro-growth claims look even worse. The mechanism by which these tax cuts were supposed to goose growth, after all, was by stimulating business investment. But business investment has shrunk each of the past two quarters.

Apparently, whatever modest boost the tax cuts gave to investment was not sufficient to overcome the drag from Trump’s trade wars (which Trump also insists are helping the economy).

This illusory investment bonanza was also supposed to fuel higher wages. As the tax bill was working its way through Congress, Trump’s Council of Economic Advisers published an analysis promising that corporate tax cuts alone would “increase average household income in the United States by, very conservatively, $4,000 annually.”

Yet in the most recently available data, inflation-adjusted wages are rising at about the same year-over-year pace as they were in the couple of years before Trump took office.

Those big raises apparently got lost in the mail. Perhaps they were accidentally routed to fund record share buybacks.

And what about the popularity of the law?

It’s true that most households got at least a tiny tax cut, which Republicans thought constituents would be forever grateful for. But the savings were so meager, especially relative to ordinary paycheck fluctuations, that most Americans didn’t even notice, according to multiple surveys.

Unsurprisingly, approval ratings for the cuts have been underwater almost every day since they were but a twinkle in the party’s eye. The law may have also whetted public appetite for the higher taxes on the wealthy that many Democrats want. Though to be fair, making the rich pay more was also popular before the GOP made them pay less.

No matter. Like most starry-eyed parents, the progenitors of this policy believe it can do no wrong. In fact, they’re keen on giving it a baby sibling soon: Trump’s economic advisers have floated yet more plutocratic tax cuts, with various proposals to slash capital gains and corporate income taxes. Trump’s co-partisans on Capitol Hill say they’re ready to help.

The Trump tax cuts may be failing to deliver on key promises. But on at least one developmental milestone — the terribleness of those “terrible twos” — this toddler has proved precocious.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/happy-birthday-gop-tax-cuts-welcome-to-your-terrible-twos/2019/12/19/931986

“A partisan process,fueled by tribalism”
Please expain
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“A partisan process,fueled by tribalism”
Please expain
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You get demerits for bad spelling, go sit in the back of the room.

You get demerits for bad spelling, go sit in the back of the room.

If I was as insecure as Spence and Got Slippers then I would blame my tablet
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If I was as insecure as Spence and Got Slippers then I would blame my tablet
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Now it's punctuation.

Now it's punctuation.

Even dummies have standards I suppose.
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Markets broke all time highs today, so someone has some confidence that things are healthy.

“A partisan process,fueled by tribalism”
Please expain
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Easy. Gabbard, who I agree with on some issues, dropped the ball here.

Voting present was the wimpy way out. If she felt that way, and felt strongly enough she should have voted no instead of trying to make a statement

And if you don't think it was partisan for the GOP, that means all 190+ just happen in perfect lock step with each other.
Right.......


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Easy. Gabbard, who I agree with on some issues, dropped the ball here.

Voting present was the wimpy way out. If she felt that way, and felt strongly enough she should have voted no instead of trying to make a statement

And if you don't think it was partisan for the GOP, that means all 190+ just happen in perfect lock step with each other.
Right.......


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i agree, i find it hard to imagine not having an opinion one way or the other.
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Easy. Gabbard, who I agree with on some issues, dropped the ball here.

Voting present was the wimpy way out....


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Bite your tongue!
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And if you don't think it was partisan for the GOP, that means all 190+ just happen in perfect lock step with each other.
Right.......


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No they just understood along with most informed and reasonable people that the two articles of impeachment are an historically pathetic joke
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No they just understood along with most informed and reasonable people that the two articles of impeachment are an historically pathetic joke
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So explain to us all if it’s a joke, perfect call and no coordinated effort to smear a political rival, why not produce the documents and witnesses to clear this all up. Nothing to hide yet everything is hidden and key witnesses are blocked, they testify and the GOP will suffer long term if he is acquitted and that is why the stonewalling.
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Easy. Gabbard, who I agree with on some issues, dropped the ball here.

Voting present was the wimpy way out. If she felt that way, and felt strongly enough she should have voted no instead of trying to make a statement

And if you don't think it was partisan for the GOP, that means all 190+ just happen in perfect lock step with each other.
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Very insightful Bryan,and certainly a convenient alibi. The problem is she is peeling the onion known as the Democratic Party. I understand that it’s political suicide but I can’t help but admire her honesty. This statement was not meant to get votes,she is playing whistle blower with her party. And the loyalists are closing their eyes.
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I think the whistleblower was Justin Amash
Because Floridaman would never bribe someone again?

FACTS

1. Trump is under investigation for bribery.
2. He met with a Democratic rep on Day 1.
3. The Dem rep voted against Trump's impeachment on Day 2.
4. On Day 3, Trump and the rep held a presser where the rep switched to the GOP.
5. Trump gave the rep money on Day 4.

Got it?
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I think the whistleblower was Justin Amash
Because Floridaman would never bribe someone again?

FACTS

1. Trump is under investigation for bribery.
2. He met with a Democratic rep on Day 1.
3. The Dem rep voted against Trump's impeachment on Day 2.
4. On Day 3, Trump and the rep held a presser where the rep switched to the GOP.
5. Trump gave the rep money on Day 4.

Got it?
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Being under investigation is not an impeachable offense.

So explain to us all if it’s a joke
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no reason to cooperate with concocted charges based on bunched panties..it is all playing out perfectly...dems look foolish and not worthy of our trust again

Shock to hear the party line, no real answer to the question, no surprise there. Trump continues his BS and you clowns eat it like candy, even his Christian bass is coming out against him now. I think the harm he is doing to the Republican Party will be long term and difficult to recover from, I’m not worried it’s a short term pain the country can recover from. When the money trail and tax records are revealed and NY courts are done, Trumps legacy will be complete.
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He is clearly the greatest president of our lifetime
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Shock to hear the party line, no real answer to the question, no surprise there. Trump continues his BS and you clowns eat it like candy, even his Christian bass is coming out against him now. I think the harm he is doing to the Republican Party will be long term and difficult to recover from, I’m not worried it’s a short term pain the country can recover from. When the money trail and tax records are revealed and NY courts are done, Trumps legacy will be complete.
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didn't know that was the party line...that was my line...i don't watch fox....usually southpark...they were beating up trump pretty good last night

Christian bass

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cool, a new species to target

Shock to hear the party line, no real answer to the question, no surprise there. Trump continues his BS and you clowns eat it like candy, even his Christian bass is coming out against him now. I think the harm he is doing to the Republican Party will be long term and difficult to recover from, I’m not worried it’s a short term pain the country can recover from. When the money trail and tax records are revealed and NY courts are done, Trumps legacy will be complete.
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"even his Christian bass is coming out against him now"

One magazine. Not the entire Christian base.

"I think the harm he is doing to the Republican Party will be long term and difficult to recover from"

I'm not worried. Do you have any idea how many federal and state seats the democrats lost during Obama's years? It was in the thousands. It was a disaster. But in 2018 they came back, taking the house and a lot of governorships. The pendulum swings both ways.

Neither party is defined by one person, each party is tens of millions of people, hundreds of ideas.

Maybe one magazine, but I’m sure it hasn’t escaped all people with a brain, that this president is as far from Christian morals and behavior as you can get. He returned recently to beating up on the dead, even suggesting he might be looking up from hell, his campaign managers must pull out their hair watching him alienate one voting group after the other.
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Floridaman doesn’t have the room to screw the pooch that you think.
Granddaughter of Billy Graham—who founded Christianity Today—says editorial call for Trump removal is "courageous”

“My grandfather always said courage is contagious. My hope is that an article like this will be a first step for people to actually stand up”
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Being under investigation is not an impeachable offense.

You can’t be impeached without an investigation.
You can be impeached multiple times and articles can be added
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Yet we have a Democratic presidential nominee describing the impeachment thusly;
“A partisan process,fueled by tribalism.”
This is every liberal’s nightmare. Refreshing honesty from somebody who refuses to play party games. With one brave statement,the hopes and dreams of this charade were dashed.
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You can’t be impeached without an investigation.
You can be impeached multiple times and articles can be added
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The BEST part is that this faux pas enables Trump to run on the ticket in 2024. Obstruction has consequences.
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Maybe one magazine, but I’m sure it hasn’t escaped all people with a brain, that this president is as far from Christian morals and behavior as you can get. He returned recently to beating up on the dead, even suggesting he might be looking up from hell, his campaign managers must pull out their hair watching him alienate one voting group after the other.
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No one is looking for Trump
to be the czar of
morals. He didn’t run for Pope. To any catholic or evangelical, he was far superior to the alternative. No comparison, not even close. That will also be true in 2020. The DNC is getting way more extreme on social issues, which will help them
in San Francisco. It will continue to alienate them Catholics and evangelicals. That’s the way it is when you get more and more rabidly pro abortion.
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it just shows how some of the Republicans have lost their moral compass supporting such a vile person. He mocks spazzes and retards, makes fun of women's faces, rips off his own charity, cheats on his wife, etc etc there is no bottom with him or some of his supporters. Dotards can't say anything other than greatest president of our lifetime. His nastiness is rubbing off on some of his supporters who don't seem to mind going down into the gutter like he does
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no, what it goes to show, is how effed up the swamp is, that in 2016 it was a choice between two disgusting, corrupt jerks.

Your saying “retard” isn’t all that great. I don’t know when Trump made fun of them ( wouldn’t shock me), but i remember clearly when Obama did it, after bowling gutter ball after gutter ball, he joked that he looked like the Special Olympics. Ha ha ha, my stomach hurts from laughing, let’s give him another Nobel Peace Prize, because he’s really that awesome.

Let’s lose the references to “retards”? are we so divided we can’t agree on that?


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no, what it goes to show, is how effed up the swamp is, that in 2016 it was a choice between two disgusting, corrupt jerks.

Your saying “retard” isn’t all that great. I don’t know when Trump made fun of them ( wouldn’t shock me), but i remember clearly when Obama did it, after bowling gutter ball after gutter ball, he joked that he looked like the Special Olympics. Ha ha ha, my stomach hurts from laughing, let’s give him another Nobel Peace Prize, because he’s really that awesome.

Let’s lose the references to “retards”? are we so divided we can’t agree on that?


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Big difference, Obama made a slip and apologized for it. Trump uses cruelty and repugnant speech regularly because his base loves it...les deplorables.
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Yet we have a Democratic presidential nominee describing the impeachment thusly;
“A partisan process,fueled by tribalism.”
This is every liberal’s nightmare. Refreshing honesty from somebody who refuses to play party games. With one brave statement,the hopes and dreams of this charade were dashed.
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Moment of weakness by a third rate candidate. Besides it wouldn’t be so partisan of the Republicans had any resemblance of a spine.
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Big difference, Obama made a slip and apologized for it. Trump uses cruelty and repugnant speech regularly because his base loves it...les deplorables.
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It's a difference. He apologized for it after people were offended by it. Not much less sincre than a politician apologizing after their staffers tell them that apologizing is politically necessary.

Spence, there are millions and millions of people like me, who don't like it when Trump does those things. You're trying to convince yourself that we're all bad because it's easier for simpletons to feel they lost to "bad", or to "hate", than admitting they lost a principled contest to decent people who just made a different choice.

Your side said McCain was a senile old facist, Romnet was a heartless plutocrat who hated women. Sere those claims valid?

Anyone who disagrees ith you, must be attacked. No honest discussions of policy, God forbid.

Meanwhile, the Peoples Republic Of Connecticut, a 40 year experiment of pure, unchecked liberalism, sinks deeper and deeper into the liberal abyss. But liberal econiimics works. Mmm-hmm.

Moment of weakness by a third rate candidate. Besides it wouldn’t be so partisan of the Republicans had any resemblance of a spine.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile deviceplease tell me who the first and second rate candidates are if she is third. Your spiral continues while your party suffers from a comedy of errors.
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Nobody calls out Biden when he mocks stuttering during the debate. Different rules for different party’s.
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please tell me who the first and second rate candidates are if she is third. Your spiral continues while your party suffers from a comedy of errors.
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Pretty much anyone on the debate stage.

Seems like those Dems just impeached a corrupt president and are exposing a GOP flush with hypocrites and sycophants.

Pelosi has cemented her place as one of the most effective Speakers ever.
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Nobody calls out Biden when he mocks stuttering during the debate. Different rules for different party’s.
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Dumb.
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Dumb.
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I agree, but nobody calls him out from the left. That was really crass of him.
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Pelosi has cemented her place as one of the most effective Speakers ever.

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wow, new levels of insane

Pretty much anyone on the debate stage.

Seems like those Dems just impeached a corrupt president and are exposing a GOP flush with hypocrites and sycophants.

Pelosi has cemented her place as one of the most effective Speakers ever.
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I know you have resigned yourself to accepting The fact he will be re elected Jeff. One of the most effective speakers ever will learn how to play nice.
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I agree, but nobody calls him out from the left. That was really crass of him.
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He has empathy, look it up.
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Pelosi has cemented her place as one of the most effective Speakers ever.
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By getting strong-armed into an impeachment she clearly didn’t want, by a handful of freshmen, progressive, empty-headed dingbats who couldn’t find their hineys with two hands and a flashlight. She is allowing these twits to push the entire party to the left of san francisco liberalism. That’ll play great in Wisconsin. She’s nothing but a mouthpiece for the squad.
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By getting strong-armed into an impeachment she clearly didn’t want, by a handful of freshmen, progressive, empty-headed dingbats who couldn’t find their hineys with two hands and a flashlight. She is allowing these twits to push the entire party to the left of san francisco liberalism. That’ll play great in Wisconsin. She’s nothing but a mouthpiece for the squad.
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Your analysis makes no sense Jim.
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I saw pelosi attempting to communicate the other day...she should really be playing balloon tennis in an old folks home

He has empathy, look it up.
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Unless the definition is mimicking a person stuttering then I believe you are mistaken. It’s not funny Jeff.
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Unless the definition is mimicking a person stuttering then I believe you are mistaken. It’s not funny Jeff.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uNXgjnBpxGI

This is mocking someone. It’s also one of the reasons Trump will go down as one of the worst presidents in history.
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Your analysis makes no sense Jim.
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It makes perfect sense. First two years, lots of talk of impeachment from the lunatic fringe, Pelosi held them off. Then the Squad of MENSA candidates came in and forced Pelosi along. She has no power, the progressive militants tell her what to do, she's a eunich.

Do you EVER back up your insults with anything? Or ever admit that anyone else has a point? Talking with you on these things, is like getting constantly pinched by a sissy.

Start making your hotel reservations for where you'll spend your 2020 exile, like you did in 2016.

Nancy is to the congress what Bill B is to the patriots, that’s laughable you think she’s making moves based on the freshman squad, she is one smart cookie.
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Nancy is to the congress what Bill B is to the patriots, that’s laughable you think she’s making moves based on the freshman squad, she is one smart cookie.
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they coerced her to impeach, she said 100 times impeachment was a loser. Then the squad ordered her to do it, and voila. She’s Bill Belechick? She’s outsmarting her adversaries? i have no idea what you’re watching, i just don’t. have you seen what congress’ approval
rating is?

and her district is knee deep in feces, if that matters. She’s a clown who OD’d on botox, no one even takes her seriously.

And what a great catholic she is. She’s a punch line.
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Unless the definition is mimicking a person stuttering then I believe you are mistaken. It’s not funny Jeff.
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There was an article in the Atlantic about Biden and how he stuttered as a child. I don't think he was doing what you claim.
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they coerced her to impeach, she said 100 times impeachment was a loser. Then the squad ordered her to do it, and voila. She’s Bill Belechick? She’s outsmarting her adversaries? i have no idea what you’re watching, i just don’t. have you seen what congress’ approval
rating is?

and her district is knee deep in feces, if that matters. She’s a clown who OD’d on botox, no one even takes her seriously.

And what a great catholic she is. She’s a punch line.
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What are you drinking some bad egg nog, she was forced to by Trump and his band of bumbling lieutenants.
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Nancy is to the congress what Bill B is to the patriots, that’s laughable you think she’s making moves based on the freshman squad, she is one smart cookie.
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She’s a demented old fool who can’t keep her teeth in her head
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There was an article in the Atlantic about Biden and how he stuttered as a child. I don't think he was doing what you claim.
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Stuttering child and groping adult
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There was an article in the Atlantic about Biden and how he stuttered as a child. I don't think he was doing what you claim.
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And that is why Sanders apologized after mocking him. I'm willing to overlook her, because she apologized. Unlike the petty people who constantly bring up the Special Olympics comment by Obama or the deplorable comment by Clinton even though they apologized.
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What are you drinking some bad egg nog, she was forced to by Trump and his band of bumbling lieutenants.
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you’re misremembering. she didn’t want this, she knew it was too risky.
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Your nuts if you don’t believe it was Trump and the Ukraine bribery that forced her hand, the freshman had zip to do with her decision.
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Your nuts if you don’t believe it was Trump and the Ukraine bribery
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There was no bribery
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Of course not keep that party line going, but didn’t Trump get impeached for it?
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Of course not keep that party line going, but didn’t Trump get impeached for it?
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Nope
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Blinders still on, must be hard driving.
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Blinders still on, must be hard driving.
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that's incredibly dumb...the guy you claim was bribed said repeatedly and emphatically that he was not bribed, which is all that matters......you can fantasize about bribery and repeat talking points in order to justify your obvious struggles but it's just fantasy...ummm...blinders

There was an article in the Atlantic about Biden and how he stuttered as a child. I don't think he was doing what you claim.
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You obviously did not watch the debate but this is another strong alibi attempt.🤡🤡
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And that is why Sanders apologized after mocking him. I'm willing to overlook her, because she apologized. Unlike the petty people who constantly bring up the Special Olympics comment by Obama or the deplorable comment by Clinton even though they apologized.
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Sorry Pablo.
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Your nuts if you don’t believe it was Trump and the Ukraine bribery that forced her hand, the freshman had zip to do with her decision.
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the impeachment proceedings were called for before the whistleblower came forward, weren’t they?

the squad is running the party. Abortions until the moment of birth, student loan forgiveness, reparations, medicare for all, open borders. pelosi knows these are policy losers, but she cannot stop the squad from forcing the party to embrace these idiotic policies.
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Of course not keep that party line going, but didn’t Trump get impeached for it?
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for bribery? The democrats dropped bribery completely. He was not impeached for bribery. Where do you get your news?
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"I still believe that there is so much going on under the surface, so much criminality and lawlessness and misbehavior that there is more to come. I see him in a barrel heading toward Niagara Falls. ...I don't see him making it."
Scaramucci on President Trump and reelection.
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"I still believe that there is so much going on under the surface, so much criminality and lawlessness and misbehavior that there is more to come. I see him in a barrel heading toward Niagara Falls. ...I don't see him making it."
Scaramucci on President Trump and reelection.
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If Mooch said it,certainly it must be true.
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
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for bribery? The democrats dropped bribery completely. He was not impeached for bribery. Where do you get your news?
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Your a smart guy, just because the word bribery isn’t in the articles, it is implied.
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Your a smart guy, just because the word bribery isn’t in the articles, it is implied.
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utter silliness .....

The silliest part of all this, is that Trump thought he could actually pull this scheme off, but he does believe he is above the law. The old classic I fought the law and the law won is perfect 2020 campaign song, he can play the victim all the way to the final vote.
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He is clearly the greatest president of our lifetime
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Your a smart guy, just because the word bribery isn’t in the articles, it is implied.
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It was in the articles, and then they specifically removed it.

Again, if a guy running for president robs a bank in another country, is it "bribery" for the sitting president to ask that country to find out what happened? A sitting president, our chief executive, isn't allowed to ask for an investigation into a political rival? Never, under any circumstances? It's always "bribery"?

How about Biden bragging that he explicitly threatened to withhold aid unless they fired a corrupt lawyer? The way Biden was bragging, obviously he thought that helping oust that prosecutor would help him politically, and therefore economically. Why wasn't that also "bribery"?

He is clearly the greatest president of our lifetime
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Your bar is set low we know.

Your bar is set low we know.

His predecessor saw to that.
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Your bar is set low we know.

so it was wrong for trump to attack
McCain? Interesting. Where was the concern for McCain, when Obama and the media claimed he was a senile old racist ( despite adopting a black orphaned girl). Save it.
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Got Stripers, earlier this year, pelosi said she’s oppose impeachment unless it was overwhelmingly bipartisan.

Then the squad ordered her to. She caved on those principles and gave in to them. It could be a political
disaster. Or it could be a political win.

“It has to be a bipartisan initiative.”

https://pjmedia.com/video/flashback-pelosi-says-impeachment-is-divisive-has-to-be-bipartisan/
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Got Stripers, earlier this year, pelosi said she’s oppose impeachment unless it was overwhelmingly bipartisan.

Then the squad ordered her to. She caved on those principles and gave in to them. It could be a political
disaster. Or it could be a political win.

“It has to be a bipartisan initiative.”

https://pjmedia.com/video/flashback-pelosi-says-impeachment-is-divisive-has-to-be-bipartisan/
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I think all that’s moot now that we have proof of Trump trying to cheat in the 2020 election.
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I think all that’s moot now that we have proof of Trump trying to cheat in the 2020 election.
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it’s moot because those
who actually control House, the squad, got tired of waiting. Their attention span isn’t all that long.

Trying to cheat. So a sitting president running for re election, can never under any circumstances, ask a foreign
government to look into what a political rival is doing? Not ever, not under any circumstances?

Her words, “it has to be a bipartisan initiative”.

How come senate democrats weren’t trying to cheat in the 2020 election, when they asked Ukraine to investigate Manafort and Trump?


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it’s moot because those
who actually control House, the squad, got tired of waiting.
The squad has little influence over the house, far more over Fox News freak outs.

How come senate democrats weren’t trying to cheat in the 2020 election, when they asked Ukraine to investigate Manafort and Trump?
They didn’t ask for anyone to investigate Trump. They were openly asking for Ukraine to respond to requests as part of an ongoing DOJ investigation.

Totally different situations.
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The squad has little influence over the house, far more over Fox News freak outs.


They didn’t ask for anyone to investigate Trump. They were openly asking for Ukraine to respond to requests as part of an ongoing DOJ investigation.

Totally different situations.
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The NYT says the squad is very influential. I guess they are just a satellite of
fox news?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/08/opinion/the-squad-democrats.html
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same with Newsweek, Spence. How many more do you want?

There is a reason why the party has shifted way to the left in the last 12 months.

https://www.newsweek.com/pelosi-squad-ocasio-cortez-omar-democrat-civil-war-1448652
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Floridaman lies Republicans started the work that went into the dossier, investigators verified the thrust of it, and a Republican gave it to the FBI Director. No one spied on Floridaman’s campaign. And what he did with Ukraine was much worse than Watergate, which is why he’s now impeached
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Just like Watergate but bigger: Trump admin record!

191 charges
90 indictments
26 Russian nationals
6 indicted Trump officials
6 convictions
5 guilty pleas
1 impeachment
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The only crime Trump appears not to have committed is murder, and to be very clear I'm only referring to premeditated domestic murder, as there's no doubt whatsoever he bears legal responsibility for the murder of hundreds or thousands of innocent Kurds in northern Syria.
When the story of what Trump did in Syria is written, it'll be found to have been worse than what he did with Russia and worse than what he did with China and worse than what he did with Ukraine and worse than what he did with UAE and worse than what he did with Saudi Arabia.
What Trump did in Ukraine is impeachable—what he did in northern Syria is a war crime.
And he did it for money—he let children be slaughtered for money.
When the Democrats began an impeachment inquiry with respect to Ukraine Trump's reaction should have been oh my god thank you so much for only seeking to impeach me for Ukraine rather then Ukraine and Russia and Israel and Saudi Arabia and UAE and Turkey and Syria.
So when you consider the question of whether a trial for Trump should include witnesses, he claims are exculpatory, set it against the backdrop of him having gotten away with war crimes and other crimes and this being the mildest inquiry he could ever possibly face.
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He is clearly the greatest president of our lifetime.
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Trump is being judged based on what Trump did, not on his fairytales about the FBI, Hunter Biden, Obama or anyone else.
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Even Pence’s aid still indicated in an interview that Ukraine may have interfered as well, they haven’t given up the conspiracy theory and Rudy is still out there shoveling dirt out of the hole they will bury them both in.

Jim as to your comment on going after McCain, it’s one thing to do it while the man is alive and another to do it after they are buried, but Trump can never let anything go. That is why he lies incessantly, that is why he goes to such lengths to cheat in 2020, it’s hard to believe a man this insecure was elected president. Your comments on the squad are laughable, if you believe that, than you too must be buying into the Ukraine conspiracy.
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they haven’t given up the conspiracy theory

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wasn't the FBI FISA application abuses a conspiracy theory too?

Trump can never let anything go.

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have you read your posts?:laugha: or pete's :laugha::laugha: or paul's:laugha::laugha::laugha:

have you read your posts?:laugha: or pete's :laugha::laugha: or paul's:laugha::laugha::laugha:

But all 3 of us make valid points. You have been reduced to snarky comments and meaningless quips.

There are only 2 people from the right on this board remaining who even try to make any points.

Trump is being judged based on what Trump did, not on his fairytales about the FBI, Hunter Biden, Obama or anyone else.
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so the criticism of the FBI is a Trump fairytale. The IG didn’t find any issues there?

You are literally denying facts that don’t serve your agenda.
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Even Pence’s aid still indicated in an interview that Ukraine may have interfered as well, they haven’t given up the conspiracy theory and Rudy is still out there shoveling dirt out of the hole they will bury them both in.

Jim as to your comment on going after McCain, it’s one thing to do it while the man is alive and another to do it after they are buried, but Trump can never let anything go. That is why he lies incessantly, that is why he goes to such lengths to cheat in 2020, it’s hard to believe a man this insecure was elected president. Your comments on the squad are laughable, if you believe that, than you too must be buying into the Ukraine conspiracy.
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I see. So when Obama
and the media call him a senile old racist ( despite the fact that he adopted a black orphan girl), in order to win an election, that’s ok. i gotcha.

Liberal=good, orange man=bad.

Always. No exceptions.
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But all 3 of us make valid points.

I hope you have a great Christmas with the other 2 wise men, Paul.
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so the criticism of the FBI is a Trump fairytale. The IG didn’t find any issues there?

You are literally denying facts that don’t serve your agenda.
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There has never been an inspector general's report that found no issues, ever. https://oversight.gov/reports

When a member of the Gang of Eight spreads Russian Propaganda?

Kevin McCarthy
@GOPLeader
The FBI broke into President Trump’s campaign, spied on him, then tried to cover it up.

This is a modern-day Watergate.

There has never been no inspector general's report hasn't that found no issues, not ever.

spruced it up for you a bit