to post this link:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cadets-midshipmen-were-not-flashing-white-power-signs-investigators-found-11576864999

Did you check your privilege before you posted this?
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This is the misinformation that Wayne was spreading,more hysteria from the looney bin.
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paul is going to be really disappointed there was no racism

His trigger word
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The findings were't reported with the same enthusiasm with which the accusations were reported.

False claims of racism? Get outta here...

paul is going to be really disappointed there was no racism

go back and read my post I said sometimes the okay signal is considered a white supremacist symbol and sometimes it's not. Obviously the military was concerned enough to investigate. Snarky snarky snarky
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The three stooges were up in arms and wishing for racism. The disappointment is evident.
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go back and read my post I said sometimes the okay signal is considered a white supremacist symbol and sometimes it's not. Obviously the military was concerned enough to investigate. Snarky snarky snarky
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if they didn't "investigate" they would be knee-jerk labeled "racist" by your ilk

if they didn't "investigate" they would be knee-jerk labeled "racist" by your ilk

They already were before the investigation was started. Pretty Sad if you ask me.

Those bitching about the racial divide constantly, need to look in the mirror to see what the cause is.
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The use of the gesture as a racist message originally started as a hoax, but has since been adopted in earnest by actual white supremacists and members of the so-called "alt-right. Per anti defamation league.

Investigate and determined it wasnt their intent. I can accept that.



We could ask Stephen Miller what he thinks

Hes familiar with the ok corral and runs in those types
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My MIL took a dixie the other day, but she is o-tay!

if they didn't "investigate" they would be knee-jerk labeled "racist" by your ilk

Ilk - table your anger
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They already were before the investigation was started. Pretty Sad if you ask me.

Those bitching about the racial divide constantly, need to look in the mirror to see what the cause is.
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and those constantly bitching about people calling out racists need to look in the mirror.
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and those constantly bitching about people calling out racists need to look in the mirror.
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Somebody has to point out how terrible they are.
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Somebody has to point out how terrible they are.
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yeah let the racist spout their racist anger
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yeah let the racist spout their racist anger
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I guess you missed the point where they said it wasn’t racist. Keep the fight alive, Paul.. even the blind squirrel finds a nut.
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I guess you missed the point where they said it wasn’t racist. Keep the fight alive, Paul.. even the blind squirrel finds a nut.
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and I guess you missed the point where the okay symbol has been co-opted by white supremacist and that the administrators at West Point in the Naval Academy did the right thing and investigated.
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and I guess you missed the point where the okay symbol has been co-opted by white supremacist and that the administrators at West Point in the Naval Academy did the right thing and investigated.
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You should quit while you are WAY behind
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and I guess you missed the point where the okay symbol has been co-opted by white supremacist and that the administrators at West Point in the Naval Academy did the right thing and investigated.
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Soooooo......racist until proven innocent. Nice
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The use of the gesture as a racist message originally started as a hoax, but has since been adopted in earnest by actual white supremacists and members of the so-called "alt-right. Per anti defamation league.

Investigate and determined it wasnt their intent. I can accept that.



We could ask Stephen Miller what he thinks

Hes familiar with the ok corral and runs in those types
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Wayne, if I were to fix this for you It would add that it was a hoax for a reason. It was to lay fake bait for Democrats and watch them run with it. Guess what? They took the bait,gut hooked they ran with this hoax.

Does this sound familiar Wayne?
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My MIL took a dixie the other day, but she is o-tay!

🙄👌👍🏿
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Soooooo......racist until proven innocent. Nice
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exactly.
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Soooooo......racist until proven innocent. Nice
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device I never said they were guilty until proven innocent so why would you feel the need to lie?
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I never said they were guilty until proven innocent so why would you feel the need to lie?
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A lot of democrats and TV pundits (sorry for bring redundant) concluded it was racist immediately. Not all of them are apologizing.

A lot of democrats and TV pundits (sorry for bring redundant) concluded it was racist immediately. Not all of them are apologizing.

paul did as well...waiting for his apology too

The kids in our elementary school play this circle game all the time. They are constantly flashing the OK sign to each other. We better investigate.

Was there any evidence, other than the usual nonsensical shrieking from the snowflake social justice warriors, that this was ever anything but the circle game?

The left needs to take a big, deep breath, and mellow out. Aren't they all into pot and yoga and Feng Shui? It's not working...

paul did as well...waiting for his apology too

no I didn't stop your lying Scott it's so sleazy.
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and I guess you missed the point where the okay symbol has been co-opted by white supremacist and that the administrators at West Point in the Naval Academy did the right thing and investigated.
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So therefore anyone who flashes the OK sign, needs to be investigated? You should see the kids at the bus stops in my town flashing that sign at each other, you'd conclude my town is one big Klan sanctuary.

The kids in our elementary school play this circle game all the time. They are constantly flashing the OK sign to each other. We better investigate.

Was there any evidence, other than the usual nonsensical shriekhuing from the snowflake social justice warriors, that this was ever anything but the circle game?

The left needs to take a big, deep breath, and mellow out. Aren't they all into pot and yoga and Feng Shui? It's not working...
it's a well-known racism symbol along with being the okay sign and part of the game. The administrator saw it so they decide to investigate.
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So therefore anyone who flashes the OK sign, needs to be investigated? You should see the kids at the bus stops in my town flashing that sign at each other, you'd conclude my town is one big Klan sanctuary. did I say that? How about using some common sense?
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Racism is bad. Turning sophomoric games into a national crisis is bad. This is a common occurrence for the left. I am sure they were ready to blame it all on Trump. Guys on this board( you know who you are) were so anxious to indict these young men that they had predicted expulsion from the service before ANY knew the facts. You can be sure as sugar that this would have been ALL Trump’s doing.
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And thirty years later, it means the same thing...

did I say that? How about using some common sense?
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you said it was good they investigated. So to you, merely making the ok sign, is probable cause of racism. Can’t have it both ways Paul.
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The administrator saw it so they decide to investigate.
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No, knuckleheads saw it on TV and lost their friggin minds (par for the course) and then the administrator HAD to investigate it To shut them up.

If they didn’t, it would have been an endless stream of “This is Trumps America” from the same knuckle heads.

Money and time wasted to coddle stupidity.
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did I say that?

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you did.....

"use of racist symbols by the people you and I are paying for to go to our schools?"

they were not using racist symbols.....if I flash you the peace sign and you get offended because you heard somewhere that some people might have used the peace sign to mean two middle fingers....it's not that I've insulted you it's that you are an idiot

This has never been more true
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No, knuckleheads saw it on TV and lost their friggin minds (par for the course) and then the administrator HAD to investigate it To shut them up.

If they didn’t, it would have been an endless stream of “This is Trumps America” from the same knuckle heads.

Money and time wasted to coddle stupidity.
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not to mention baseless charges of racism in national tv, against some of the best kids in the country. Nothing is sacred.
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you said it was good they investigated. So to you, merely making the ok sign, is probable cause of racism. Can’t have it both ways Paul.
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Yes what's the harm in asking what they meant by using a known racist sign? The Coast Guard had the same issue they asked and determined it was a racist sign and punished a Cadet in some way. Using your logic they would not have done anything and the racist would have continued to be able to make his racist sign. There's no equivalent to some 10 year olds making that sign and punching each other in the arm total false equivalency
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you did.....

"use of racist symbols by the people you and I are paying for to go to our schools?"

they were not using racist symbols.....if I flash you the peace sign and you get offended because you heard somewhere that some people might have used the peace sign to mean two middle fingers....it's not that I've insulted you it's that you are an idiot
you posted my response to your reply to my original post so it appears out of context. Sleazy.

A peace sign has no known racist connotations. That symbol does and if you don't know that you're an uneducated idiot
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No, knuckleheads saw it on TV and lost their friggin minds (par for the course) and then the administrator HAD to investigate it To shut them up.

If they didn’t, it would have been an endless stream of “This is Trumps America” from the same knuckle heads.

Money and time wasted to coddle stupidity.
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Whether they saw it live or someone told him about it what difference does it make? None at all. If it wasn't a known symbol they wouldn't have investigated. Using your logic the Coast Guard shouldn't've investigated. They did investigate and they punished one of their Cadets for the same exact symbol.
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And thirty years later, it means the same thing...

actually it doesn't it now has known racist connotations in addition to what it meant years ago and evidently also has use in a game the kids in Jim's neighborhood play.
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actually it doesn't it now has known racist connotations in addition to what it meant years ago and evidently also has use in a game the kids in Jim's neighborhood play.
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You sound like a crazy person try to get a grip
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You sound like a crazy person try to get a grip
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He will be 👌
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..

You sound like a crazy person try to get a grip
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And you sound like a snarky person who is always trying to deny racism.

And you sound like a snarky person who is always trying to deny racism.

not really...there was no racism involved....it's in your head

There was in the CG case and the WP & NA. Admin. thought they needed to look into it.

You constantly get your panties in a bunch whenever anything is posted dealing with racism.

actually it doesn't it now has known racist connotations in addition to what it meant years ago and evidently also has use in a game the kids in Jim's neighborhood play.
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kiss all over the country are playing it. that’s what the cadets were doing. It’s called the circle game.

I saw some guy tying a knot in a rope, should we investigate him to see if he’s in the klan, planning a lynching?
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And you sound like a snarky person who is always trying to deny racism.

no. but getting a bit tired of
endless and baseless charges of racism from your side. It never stops, and we never wait for the facts. Ask that Sandman kid. Or the duke lacrosse teams.

It never stops. Even a baby eventually learns not to touch a hot stove. Liberals never, ever learn.

There’s racism that needs to be rooted out. But not everyone who presents any kind of political threat to democrats, is a Klansman.
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You constantly get your panties in a bunch whenever anything is posted dealing with racism.



no I don't

I saw some guy tying a knot in a rope, should we investigate him to see if he’s in the klan,

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paul would

Paul and his like occasionally base their very existence as a platform for racism. They can find it anywhere and are only to anxious to accuse others of such. It seems like a desperate lifestyle to me. I hope next year that the world and Santa does not have to deal with these boys who cry wolf. Merry Christmas
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kiss all over the country are playing it. that’s what the cadets were doing. It’s called the circle game.And white nationalists are using it all across the country as one of their symbols.

I saw some guy tying a knot in a rope, should we investigate him to see if he’s in the klan, planning a lynching?
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Is the knot a known racist symbol?

paul would

See - nothing but snarky comments.

kiss all over the country are playing it. that’s what the cadets were doing. It’s called the circle game.

I saw some guy tying a knot in a rope, should we investigate him to see if he’s in the klan, planning a lynching?
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God forbid you get a pair of Doc Martins for Christmas, that should trigger an immediate investigation.
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Is the knot a known racist symbol?

right. so it’s used for
multiple things. but when heroic, selfless kids who answer the call to serve the nation do it, your side assumes the worst possible
motive. And when they’re cleared of doing anything wrong, no one apologizes, and for damn sure no one learns any kind of lesson. Because your side can’t win the debate of ideas ( when your ideas are open borders, free everything, and abortion until age 10), so everything is a personal attack.
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right. so it’s used for
multiple things. but when heroic, selfless kids who answer the call to serve the nation do it, your side assumes the worst possible
motive. And when they’re cleared of doing anything wrong, no one apologizes, and for damn sure no one learns any kind of lesson. Because your side can’t win the debate of ideas ( when your ideas are open borders, free everything, and abortion until age 10), so everything is a personal attack.
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Look at the CG - someone made the symbol and the admin. decided that the heroic, selfless kid who answered the call to serve the nation made a racist symbol and assumed the worst possible motive - why don't you contact them or your congressman to complain instead of complaining on a fishing website?

Is the knot a known racist symbol?

some would say so....

Look at the CG - someone made the symbol and the admin. decided that the heroic, selfless kid who answered the call to serve the nation made a racist symbol and assumed the worst possible motive - why don't you contact them or your congressman to complain instead of complaining on a fishing website?

you’re not whining on a fishing website too?
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Every Single One Of You Posting on this thread has used the OK sign 10, 20, 50 times yer year? Hundreds for some of you? Thousand in some trades? Multiply that by your age so tens of thousands of OK symbols? You must ALLLLLL be racists.

This is like the Woke Bullsh!t Bingo Game runamok. How many perceived co-opted racist microaggressions can we find?

This is effing out of control.

The use of the gesture as a racist message originally started as a hoax, but has since been adopted in earnest by actual white supremacists and members of the so-called "alt-right. Per anti defamation league.

Investigate and determined it wasnt their intent. I can accept that.



We could ask Stephen Miller what he thinks

Hes familiar with the ok corral and runs in those types
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and I guess you missed the point where the okay symbol has been co-opted by white supremacist and that the administrators at West Point in the Naval Academy did the right thing and investigated.

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And it is silly to have to have an investigation every time the Woke Mob sees a perceived threat.

This is like reporting on your neighbors STALINIST style.

it's a well-known racism symbol along with being the okay sign and part of the game. The administrator saw it so they decide to investigate.
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The admin decided to investigate because the WokeMob demanded it.

And it is silly to have to have an investigation every time the Woke Mob sees a perceived threat.

This is like reporting on your neighbors STALINIST style.



The admin decided to investigate because the WokeMob demanded it.

Bury your head in the sand. I guess marching w/tiki torches is ok bc gidget went to a beach party in 1960 and there were tiki torches there.

Bury your head in the sand. I guess marching w/tiki torches is ok bc gidget went to a beach party in 1960 and there were tiki torches there.

dude...where did you get the drugs????

He adds nothing but hate and vitriolic posturing.
A POS like Paul is the reason why wa need a Presidential correction.
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dude...where did you get the drugs????

snarky, snarky, snarky

Do you still use the term colored or retard?

He adds nothing but hate and vitriolic posturing.
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Mr. irrelevant. :rotf2:

snarky, snarky, snarky

Do you still use the term colored or retard?

never

A POS like Paul is the reason why wa need a Presidential correction.
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Classy guy.

How many perceived co-opted racist microaggressions can we find?

This is effing out of control.




well, there are like 147 genders so probably at least that many micro-aggressions too...we call this progress

No sand, Paul. You are the one brushing some cadets as Tiki Torch carriers.

He adds nothing but hate and vitriolic posturing.
A POS like Paul is the reason why wa need a Presidential correction.
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Met Paul numerous times, not a POS at all. Difference in position, yes, POS not at all.

Met Paul numerous times, not a POS at all. Difference in position, yes, POS not at all.

POS means "Pal On SB"

He adds nothing but hate and vitriolic posturing.
A POS like Paul is the reason why wa need a Presidential correction.
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Will just leave this here...

it's all a grand conspiracy against white people.is that it? . nothing in a conservatives world can mean more than one thing..?

So the ok sign can't be used by white supremacists and still be used as intended as ok or (I am all right )


https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white-power-symbol-or-just-right-wing-troll


Dismissing the spread of the hand signal as a hoax overlooks two hard realities: first, that its increasing use gives open license to actual racist ideologues to operate and recruit under the cover of the “plausible deniability” established by less ideological young trolls; and second, that any kind of wink-and-nudge interaction with the racist right is a direct route to its normalization.

snarky, snarky, snarky

Do you still use the term colored or retard?

Are they still words in the English language?
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Are they still words in the English language?
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sure they are. I've heard them used.

So you think things have changed and what may have been appropriate years ago may not be appropriate today?

John and TDF are not anyone's idea of hard-core right wingers. Yet they got frustrated at the knee jerk reaction of the left to label these kids racists, and then not apologize after they were exonerated.

The lefties here who are angry or don't get where John and TDF are coming from, you are a big part of why Trump is president. You just don't get it, and you have learned absolutely nothing from the 2016 election. CNN was merciless in branding these kids as white supremacists. You're all doing everything you can, to help Trump get re elected.

Will just leave this here...

I call it like I see it.
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it's all a grand conspiracy against white people.is that it? . nothing in a conservatives world can mean more than one thing..?

So the ok sign can't be used by white supremacists and still be used as intended as ok or (I am all right )

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white-power-symbol-or-just-right-wing-troll


Dismissing the spread of the hand signal as a hoax overlooks two hard realities: first, that its increasing use gives open license to actual racist ideologues to operate and recruit under the cover of the “plausible deniability” established by less ideological young trolls; and second, that any kind of wink-and-nudge interaction with the racist right is a direct route to its normalization.

No, just a temper tantrum from the left in response to getting creamed in an election they thought was in the bag.

I'll tell the superintendant in my town that all the schools need to be investigated, because at every single bus stop, you'll see 8 year-olds playing the same exact circle game that these kids were playing. What deplorable racists.

it's all a grand conspiracy against white people.is that it? . nothing in a conservatives world can mean more than one thing..?

So the ok sign can't be used by white supremacists and still be used as intended as ok or (I am all right )


https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white-power-symbol-or-just-right-wing-troll


Dismissing the spread of the hand signal as a hoax overlooks two hard realities: first, that its increasing use gives open license to actual racist ideologues to operate and recruit under the cover of the “plausible deniability” established by less ideological young trolls; and second, that any kind of wink-and-nudge interaction with the racist right is a direct route to its normalization.


1) Presumption of innocence.
2) The significant majority of people are not racists.
3) Why are you assisting a bunch of asshats in co-opting normal speech and symbology. You are doing their work for them. Eff 'em, I am reclaiming my OK sign.

John and TDF are not anyone's idea of hard-core right wingers. Yet they got frustrated at the knee jerk reaction of the left to label these kids racists, and then not apologize after they were exonerated.

The lefties here who are angry or don't get where John and TDF are coming from, you are a big part of why Trump is president. You just don't get it, and you have learned absolutely nothing from the 2016 election. CNN was merciless in branding these kids as white supremacists. You're all doing everything you can, to help Trump get re elected.

Yes, it is the righties on this site who resort to childless insults and vile comments. Look at your typical post vs the typical "lefty" post and tell me who is the angry one here?

The admin. said they needed to look into the symbols and based on what the cadets said (that it was part of a game) didn't punish them. The CG had the same issue and determined the cadet in their case was using it as a racist symbol. It is not a knee jerk reaction to view a symbol that racists use as a racist symbol.

No, just a temper tantrum from the left in response to getting creamed in an election they thought was in the bag.

I'll tell the superintendant in my town that all the schools need to be investigated, because at every single bus stop, you'll see 8 year-olds playing the same exact circle game that these kids were playing. What deplorable racists.

See - more insults from the right - and yet you claim the left is having a temper tantrum or is angry. You don't see those type of insults from the people on the left here.

Tell the super. that and come back and let us know what he says.

1) Presumption of innocence.They weren't guilty until proven innocent. They were questioned and then the admin. announced the symbols were a part of a game.
2) The significant majority of people are not racists.True - no one claimed the majority of all people are racist or that everyone flashing the symbol is doing it with racist intent (regardless of how Jim keeps talking about his sons playing a game)
3) Why are you assisting a bunch of asshats in co-opting normal speech and symbology. You are doing their work for them. Eff 'em, I am reclaiming my OK sign.

Reclaim it and use it when people ask if you want to go to lunch in 5 min. and you're on the phone so you can't talk.

See - more insults from right - and yet you claim the left is having a temper tantrum or is angry. You don't see those type of insults from the people on the left here.

Tell the super. that and come back and let us know what he says.

It was intended to be an insult - a very valid insult, with all kinds of evidence to back it up.

"you claim the left is having a temper tantrum"

I'm stating a fact. I'm not angry. Just stating a fact. I don't generally get angry when my opponents act in a way that increases my chances of winning. That makes me happy, not angry. Many, many times here you've accused me of being angry. It's a desperate hail mary on your part, when you can't refute what I'm saying, nor can you admit I have a point.

The super would laugh in my face. Good for him.

There's a time for genuine, principled outrage. When kids flashing the OK sign sends you all into a frothing fit, maybe ask why that is. Or keep doing it. It's working wonders, which explains why republicans haven't won any elections anywhere since the left began this tactic in the late 2000's. In response, naturally, to getting humiliated, that time by Bush.

Reclaim it and use it when people ask if you want to go to lunch in 5 min. and you're on the phone so you can't talk.

"They weren't guilty until proven innocent. They were questioned and then the admin. announced the symbols were a part of a game."

CNN called them disturbing and hurtful.

If not everyone is racist, why do you assume we need to investigate when the kids did this at a football game, when everyone was in a good mood? There was no evidence it was anything resembling racism, except for (1) the OK sign, and (2) the willingness of snowflakes to go bonkers for no reason. That was enough.

If one of the white kids was caught on camera yelling "hey, n***er", right before flashing the sign, OK. But there was nothing to suggest it was anything other than what it turned out to be.

You don't think the left immediately convicts accused racists? Again, tell that to the Duke lacrosse players, god knows how many white cops convicted in the media, or that Sandman kid who be a zillionaire soon. How many examples would I have to cite, exactly, before you might say "you know what, maybe there IS a pattern here." How many? Because whatever the number is, I can cite that many. Al Sharpton made a career out of false racism accusations, and you can't run for POTUS as a democrat without getting on your knees and kissing his ring.

You can't say out loud that your side uses the race card repugnantly. Because liberals are never wrong.

It was intended to be an insult - a very valid insult, with all kinds of evidence to back it up.

"you claim the left is having a temper tantrum"

I'm stating a fact. I'm not angry. You come across that way - constantly insulting people. Just stating a fact. I don't generally get angry when my opponents act in a way that increases my chances of winning. That makes me happy, not angry. Many, many times here you've accused me of being angry. It's a desperate hail mary on your part, when you can't refute what I'm saying, nor can you admit I have a point.

The super would laugh in my face. Good for him. Then why mention it when no one has EVER suggested that.

There's a time for genuine, principled outrage. When kids flashing the OK sign sends you all into a frothing fit, maybe ask why that is. Or keep doing it. It's working wonders, which explains why republicans haven't won any elections anywhere since the left began this tactic in the late 2000's. In response, naturally, to getting humiliated, that time by Bush.

If the post below isn't considered angry, you need to get some help to determine what angry is.

vague insults from a little
twerp who can never criticize his own side or compliment the other side. bleating of the sheep XXXX, that’s 90% of what you do. what did i stay exactly, that was wrong?

from a guy who literally couldn’t bring himself
to showup here for weeks after the election

"They weren't guilty until proven innocent. They were questioned and then the admin. announced the symbols were a part of a game."

CNN called them disturbing and hurtful.

If not everyone is racist, why do you assume we need to investigate when the kids did this at a football game, when everyone was in a good mood? There was no evidence it was anything resembling racism, except for (1) the OK sign, and (2) the willingness of snowflakes to go bonkers for no reason. That was enough.

If one of the white kids was caught on camera yelling "hey, n***er", right before flashing the sign, OK, There was nothing to suggest it was anything other than what it turned out to be.

You don't think the left immediately convicts accused racists? Again, tell that to the Duke lacrosse players, god knows how many white cops, or that Sandman kid who be a zillionaire soon. How many examples would I have to cite, before you might say "you know what, maybe there IS a pattern here."

You can't say that. Because liberals are never wrong.

So why did the CG punish one of their cadets for doing the same thing?

So why did the CG punish one of their cadets for doing the same thing?

Presumably because HE did it. That doesn't say anything about anyone else.

Good lord man, if a black guy kills someone in Chicago this weekend, does that mean every time someone is murdered, we investigate blacks first?

You're holding others responsible for the acts of someone else.

Paul, Al Sharpton literally made a career out of false claims of racism. And you can't run for POTUS as a democrat without getting on your knees and kissing his ring. Instead of hounding him from the public square, he is still enormously powerful on the left. Because dishonestly playing the race card is a major, major component of liberalism. Because it works. Who cares if innocent lives are ruined?

Presumably because HE did it. That doesn't say anything about anyone else


Exactly - you made my point. He got in trouble for making the ok symbol bc the intent of the symbol was somehow racist and not the way a 11 year old is using it.

And how did the CG know his intent? - They asked him.

Exactly - you made my point. He got in trouble for making the ok symbol bc the intent of the symbol was somehow racist and not the way a 11 year old is using it.

And how did the CG know his intent? - They asked him.

And if I said that no one is racist, you'd have a point. I didn't, so you don't.

And where are the apologies from the people in the media who immediately concluded it was racist, Paul? How come you never address that?

Just hand the reigns over to AOC, let her drive the democrat wagon right off the left-edge of the earth.

And if I said that no one is racist, you'd have a point. I didn't, so you don't.
I do have a point - the CG found that the symbol was racist. All the people on this thread other than WDMSO are totally denying it has any racist intent.
And where are the apologies from the people in the media who immediately concluded it was racist, Paul? How come you never address that?You never asked about that. But let them apologize.

Just hand the reigns over to AOC, let her drive the democrat wagon right off the left-edge of the earth.

Who is AOC? 1 rep. with 1 vote. Didn't Pelosi say something like "who cares they have 4 votes" when talking about the squad.

So why did the CG punish one of their cadets for doing the same thing?

He wasn’t a cadet
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All the people on this thread other than WDMSO are totally denying it has any racist intent.

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Now your just making chit up.

Nobody ever denied it, we just didn’t lose our collective minds and immediately jumped to racism when we saw it.
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Who is AOC? 1 rep. with 1 vote. Didn't Pelosi say something like "who cares they have 4 votes" when talking about the squad.

So you don't concede AOC is a major influence in the Democrat party right now?

How long does it take to acquire the ability to deny irrefutable truths, if they happen to be politically inconvenient?

Pelosi did say that. And then she flip flopped on impeachment, thanks largely to the squad. Pelosi had been saying all along that impeachment had to be bipartisan.

Now your just making chit up.

Nobody ever denied it, we just didn’t lose our collective minds and immediately jumped to racism when we saw it.
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Correct, nobody ever denied it (though I have to admit it was the first I'd heard of it).

Now your just making chit up.
I'm not making anything up. People have their panties all in a bunch.

Nobody ever denied it, we just didn’t lose our collective minds and immediately jumped to racism when we saw it.
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So why not ask the cadets what their intent was?

He wasn’t a cadet
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So what was he?

Correct, nobody ever denied it (though I have to admit it was the first I'd heard of it).

Really, go back and reread the whole thread and tell me people weren't claiming the symbol didn't have racist connotations and it was nothing more than an okay symbol or part of a game.

He wasn’t a cadet
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just looked and saw he was a "member".

Feel better now?

Really, go back and reread the whole thread and tell me people weren't claiming the symbol didn't have racist connotations and it was nothing more than an okay symbol or part of a game.

The symbol does not have racist connotations 99+% of the time yet whenever someone not with their Left Party Card does it they are immediately called out as racists, and suffer the onslaught or media and the Social Media defenders of Woke.

This is a bigger problem than anything.

And for the tiny handful that do want it to be a symbol of hate, they’re getting a LOT of help from the useful idiots
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The symbol does not have racist connotations 99+% of the time yet whenever someone not with their Left Party Card does it they are immediately called out as racists, and suffer the onslaught or media and the Social Media defenders of Woke.

This is a bigger problem than anything.

And for the tiny handful that do want it to be a symbol of hate, they’re getting a LOT of help from the useful idiots
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I agree it doesn't have racist connotations 99+% of the time. This time it might have. It was presented upsides down which I believe is further indication it is racist and it had no connection to anything else that was going on - The video clip on the news I saw did not have cadets punching each other in the arm and I didn't see it live when I was watching the game. For those reasons, I don't think the academies where out of line in looking into it, asking questions and stating the cadets didn't have racist intentions.

There hasn't been any big uproar where people have seen the symbol and are calling people racist. It is as much if not more about the right complaining about it as anyone on the left actually doing it - red herring.

No one would ever accuse some 11 year old in Jim's town at the bus stop who flashed the sign and then punched someone in the arm of being racist.

I agree it doesn't have racist connotations 99+% of the time. This time it might have. It was presented upsides down which I believe is further indication it is racist and it had no connection to anything else that was going on - The video clip on the news I saw did not have cadets punching each other in the arm and I didn't see it live when I was watching the game. For those reasons, I don't think the academies where out of line in looking into it, asking questions and stating the cadets didn't have racist intentions.

There hasn't been any big uproar where people have seen the symbol and are calling people racist. It is as much if not more about the right complaining about it as anyone on the left actually doing it - red herring.

No one would ever accuse some 11 year old in Jim's town at the bus stop who flashed the sign and then punched someone s in the arm of being racist.

the Sandman kid was 16 when he was called the next James Earl Ray in every tv station except for one.
True or false? the tv clips we all saw, failed to show that the kids were victims of racist taunts, not perpetrators. watch what you are fed by the media Paul. They obviously have an agenda. Again, how many examples do you need to admit that, because whatever the number is, I can post that many examples.

your side is un-hinged.

The circle game as it’s called, is popular in high schools and colleges too. it requires the ok sign to be flashed upside down. but let’s assume it means Heil Hitler.
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the Sandman kid was 16 when he was called the next James Earl Ray in every tv station except for one.
True or false? the tv clips we all saw, failed to show that the kids were victims of racist taunts, not perpetrators. watch what you are fed by the media Paul. They obviously have an agenda. Again, how many examples do you need to admit that, because whatever the number is, I can post that many examples.

your side is un-hinged.And what do you call evangelicals supporting a vile man or the right afraid to criticize a President who insults women, the military generals, dead war hero's ,steals $ from charities, I can go post how ever many posts you want to show the outright hypocrisy of the right.

The circle game as it’s called, is popular in high schools and colleges too. it requires the ok sign to be flashed upside down. but let’s assume it means Heil Hitler.
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Start a thread about sandman if you want - You bring up him and the Duke kids as much as you can. I suppose the right has apologized to Hillary for all the lies that were said about her - they obviously have an agenda. Did you ever see the stat that said people who get their news from Fox actually know less than people who don't watch the news.

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And for the tiny handful that do want it to be a symbol of hate, they’re getting a LOT of help from the useful idiots

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bingo

Did you ever see the stat that said people who get their news from Fox actually know less than people who don't watch the news.

this makes sense since I don't watch the news and your ilk always seem to know what's going on over there at Fox :cool:

Start a thread about sandman if you want - You bring up him and the Duke kids as much as you can. I suppose the right has apologized to Hillary for all the lies that were said about her - they obviously have an agenda. Did you ever see the stat that said people who get their news from Fox actually know less than people who don't watch the news.

The thread is about your sides willingness to go on national TV, and label anyone who disagrees with them, a racist. This is just the latest manifestation.

Hilary is innocent? he didn't lie to protect her predator husband, and lut-shame his victima on national TV? That's all made up?

Children, Paul. I'm talking about kids who did absolutely nothing wrong, but found themselves in yoru sides crosshairs. Deny it all you want. Because lberal=good, aways. A der der.

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See - more insults from the right - and yet you claim the left is having a temper tantrum or is angry. You don't see those type of insults from the people on the left here.

Tell the super. that and come back and let us know what he says.

No ,when you call Seadogg ( who seldom posts)an idiot for expressing his opinion,it is not meant as an insult. You are the typical snowflake who just decided the rules only apply to one side. Or was that just another of your bad boy days?
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No ,when you call Seadogg ( who seldom posts)an idiot for expressing his opinion,it is not meant as an insult. You are the typical snowflake who just decided the rules only apply to one side. Or was that just another of your bad boy days?
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It certainly was meant as an insult - I returned the venom he posted. I knew he would throw an insult and run away - and that is exactly what happened.

It is like with you, I don't take your rude, vile comments. What kind of person calls people on-line a POS, makes comments about people's wives and kids?

It certainly was meant as an insult - I returned the venom he posted. I knew he would throw an insult and run away - and that is exactly what happened.

It is like with you, I don't take your rude, vile comments. What kind of person calls people on-line a POS, makes comments about people's wives and kids?
FWIW ,I would say it to your face.

Btw , Seadogg posted his opinion. None of which was directed at you personally. The insult was directed towards democrats. You chose to make an ad hominem attack because you take their mistakes personally. But keep complaining about the mean republicans while you mimic what you are crying about. P*ssy,you are the face of the left.🤡🤡🤡
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FWIW ,I would say it to your face. [COLOR="Red"[/COLOR]

Btw , Seadogg posted his opinion. None of which was directed at you personally. The insult was directed towards democrats. You chose to make an ad hominem attack because you take their mistakes personally. But keep complaining about the mean republicans while you mimic what you are crying about. P*ssy,you are the face of the left.������
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tough guy - hopefully some day we meet up.

P*ssy - You are a classy guy

How about a little pre-freickin Christmas cheer FFS?

FWIW ,I would say it to your face.

Btw , Seadogg posted his opinion. None of which was directed at you personally. The insult was directed towards democrats. You chose to make an ad hominem attack because you take their mistakes personally. But keep complaining about the mean republicans while you mimic what you are crying about. P*ssy,you are the face of the left.🤡🤡🤡
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Hmmm.. I thought name calling was a tactic of the left?

Oh that's right, you 'call it like you see it's... One might say, if they were to call it like they see it, that your posts on here reflect those of an angry, name calling middle-aged white guy. Perhaps you are the face of the right?
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No point in commenting. He can't help himself.

How about a little pre-freickin Christmas cheer FFS?

they started drinking early :biglaugh:

tough guy - hopefully some day we meet up.

P*ssy - You are a classy guy

I already tried to take you fishing and you said no. You will be getting another invite next summer. Enjoy your Christmas muscleman
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Hmmm.. I thought name calling was a tactic of the left?

Oh that's right, you 'call it like you see it's... One might say, if they were to call it like they see it, that your posts on here reflect those of an angry, name calling middle-aged white guy. Perhaps you are the face of the right?
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Do what makes you Happy Bryan.
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Hmmm.. I thought name calling was a tactic of the left?

Oh that's right, you 'call it like you see it's... One might say, if they were to call it like they see it, that your posts on here reflect those of an angry, name calling middle-aged white guy. Perhaps you are the face of the right?
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You forgot insecure.
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