Drip.....drip.....drip

Another little Bolton leak.......

Here's the question: Senator, your's was the deciding vote to not have witnesses in Floridaman's impeachment, given the reports that have come out since did you make a wise decision? Because if it's close, you always end up owning it.

More than two months before he asked Ukraine’s president to investigate his political opponents, President Trump directed John R. Bolton, then his national security adviser, to help with his pressure campaign to extract damaging information on Democrats from Ukrainian officials, according to an unpublished manuscript by Mr. Bolton.

Mr. Trump gave the instruction, Mr. Bolton wrote, during an Oval Office conversation in early May that included the acting White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, the president’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani and the White House counsel, Pat A. Cipollone, who is now leading the president’s impeachment defense.

Mr. Trump told Mr. Bolton to call Volodymyr Zelensky, who had recently won election as president of Ukraine, to ensure Mr. Zelensky would meet with Mr. Giuliani, who was planning a trip to Ukraine to discuss the investigations that the president sought, in Mr. Bolton’s account. Mr. Bolton never made the call, he wrote.

"the White House counsel, Pat A. Cipollone, who is now leading the president’s impeachment defense."

As a matter of professional legal ethics you can't really represent a client in a matter in which you are also a witness (or accomplice) and it's a bar-grievable issue -- I would have thought this is obvious but these days it's worth reiterating

Pete, I do like your new sig. Once again your side claimed that THIS TIME, he had gone too far and they had him! Only to end up with egg on their faces again.

P.S. You're a bore and you're a pussy.

Mr. Trump also repeatedly made national security decisions contrary to American interests, Mr. Bolton wrote, describing a pervasive sense of alarm among top advisers about the president’s choices. Mr. Bolton expressed concern to others in the administration that the president was effectively granting favors to autocratic leaders like Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey and Xi Jinping of China.

And John Kelley throws a few more sticks on the fire

“If I was advising the United States Senate, I would say, ‘If you don’t respond to 75 percent of the American voters and have witnesses, it’s a job only half done,” he said. “You open yourself up forever as a Senate that shirks its responsibilities.”

Mr. Trump also repeatedly made national security decisions contrary to American interests, Mr. Bolton wrote, describing a pervasive sense of alarm among top advisers about the president’s choices. Mr. Bolton expressed concern to others in the administration that the president was effectively granting favors to autocratic leaders like Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey and Xi Jinping of China.

Geeze, until now the Dems were constantly accusing Bolton and his ideas and decisions as contrary to American interests. Sort of like your Dershowitz ever changing ideas.

Keep up the good work in helping to point out these anomalous but important conflicting opinions by everybody.

Geeze, until now the Dems were constantly accusing Bolton and his ideas and decisions as contrary to American interests. Sort of like your Dershowitz ever changing ideas.

Keep up the good work in helping to point out these anomalous but important conflicting opinions by everybody.

Actually Dershowitz is yours and he’s been blowing in the wind for years, has the principles of any friend of Epstein’s and Roy Cohn.
Bolton’s ideas are not the issue, he too is a principled American and knows that Floridaman is a liar and guilty of that which he is accused.
Don’t worry, if they attack Bolton too hard all his contemporaneous notes will be found and miraculously be published. He knows exactly how the game is played and will get revenge.
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Bolton reveals what it was like to fight against an incumbent President determined to prevent publication of this book. Tweety directed the seizure of and withheld his personal and other unclassified documents, despite numerous requests for their return. He also obstructed Bolton’s Twitter account and made outright threats of censorship.

Bolton’s response? Game on.

Drawn from his personal participation in key events, Bolton covers an array of topics—chaos in the White House, sure, but also assessments of major players, the President’s inconsistent, scattershot decision-making process, and his dealings with allies and enemies alike, from China, Russia, Ukraine, North Korea, Iran, the UK, France, and Germany.

What Bolton saw astonished him: a president for whom getting reelected was the only thing that mattered, even if it meant endangering or weakening the nation.

“I am hard-pressed to identify any significant Trump decision during my tenure that wasn’t driven by reelection calculations,” he writes.

In fact, he argues that the House committed impeachment malpractice by keeping their prosecution focused narrowly on Ukraine when Trump’s Ukraine-like transgressions existed across the full range of his foreign policy—and Bolton documents exactly what those were, and attempts by him and others in the Administration to raise alarms
about them.

it doesn't matter bc my 401 is doing great.

Bolton reveals what it was like to fight against an incumbent President determined to prevent publication of this book. Tweety directed the seizure of and withheld his personal and other unclassified documents, despite numerous requests for their return. He also obstructed Bolton’s Twitter account and made outright threats of censorship.

Bolton’s response? Game on.

Drawn from his personal participation in key events, Bolton covers an array of topics—chaos in the White House, sure, but also assessments of major players, the President’s inconsistent, scattershot decision-making process, and his dealings with allies and enemies alike, from China, Russia, Ukraine, North Korea, Iran, the UK, France, and Germany.

What Bolton saw astonished him: a president for whom getting reelected was the only thing that mattered, even if it meant endangering or weakening the nation.

“I am hard-pressed to identify any significant Trump decision during my tenure that wasn’t driven by reelection calculations,” he writes.

In fact, he argues that the House committed impeachment malpractice by keeping their prosecution focused narrowly on Ukraine when Trump’s Ukraine-like transgressions existed across the full range of his foreign policy—and Bolton documents exactly what those were, and attempts by him and others in the Administration to raise alarms
about them.

Amazing how those once hated by the Dems are now redeemed principled Americans merely by attacking Trump. Doesn't take much for a "principle" to change stripes.

Were the Dems wrong or lying when they claimed that choosing Bolton would get us mired into more disastrous foreign wars?

it doesn't matter bc my 401 is doing great.

"The stock market is a graph of rich peoples feelings"

Best line I heard on a podcast this week when they were discussing that the stock market is not really reflective of the economy (they were pointing to be it being up last week when the unemployment numbers (which now we are suddenly supposed to believe) were better than projected but still atrocious, plus you know, riots and a pandemic...

"The stock market is a graph of rich peoples feelings"

Best line I heard on a podcast this week when they were discussing that the stock market is not really reflective of the economy (they were pointing to be it being up last week when the unemployment numbers (which now we are suddenly supposed to believe) were better than projected but still atrocious, plus you know, riots and a pandemic...

I think Paul was talking about his area code

I think Paul was talking about his area code

No, he is an '860'er

No, he is an '860'er

:)

No, he is an '860'er

that is the "other side" of the river.
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The book will likely resonate in conservative circles. Bolton is a hawk, perhaps even dangerously so, but he’s super smart and has credibility. This isn’t some conspiracy tell all. It’s a warning.
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The book will likely resonate in conservative circles. Bolton is a hawk, perhaps even dangerously so, but he’s super smart and has credibility. This isn’t some conspiracy tell all. It’s a warning.
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Sounds scary! Just what we need during pandemic, rioting, revolution, protests . . . maybe he can demonstrate with the crowds--kneel and ask forgiveness for his abundance of white privilege.

Now Bolton is being sued, to stop a book that's already been distributed to book stores. This is going to be pretty funny.

Why did Trump have a secretive, midnight run to Walter Reed Medical Center? It’s time we talk about it.
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Now Bolton is being sued, to stop a book that's already been distributed to book stores. This is going to be pretty funny.

A POTUS who says he cant be sued or charged while in office . Loves to sue or threaten legal action against information or outlets who he thinks shows him in a bad light! He trying to shut down free speech and intimidate ,,,

Yet his supporters have no issues with his behavior. They see it as strength, or fighting back against the corrupt system, :btu:

A POTUS who says he cant be sued or charged while in office . Loves to sue or threaten legal action against information or outlets who he thinks shows him in a bad light! He trying to shut down free speech and intimidate ,,,

Yet his supporters have no issues with his behavior. They see it as strength, or fighting back against the corrupt system, :btu:

well....he's a dictator...soooooo....

the left has a curious definition of... "free speech"

well....he's a dictator...soooooo....

the left has a curious definition of... "free speech"

Tweety, who wants to delay publication of the Bolton book until after the presidential election, on Monday gave reporters a spin on the White House’s efforts to muzzle Bolton: He views “every conversation with me as president highly classified” and he thinks that “maybe [Bolton] is not telling the truth.”

Bolton spent 4 months with Ellen Knight, the official charged with conducting the prepublication review.
Tweety's suit acknowledges that, by April 27, 2020, Knight “had completed her review and was of the judgment that the manuscript draft did not contain classified information.”

Then a political appointee, Michael Ellis, intervened and claimed to be “concerned that the manuscript still appeared to contain classified information, in part because the same Administration that the Author served is still in office and that the manuscript described sensitive information about ongoing foreign policy issues.”

But that’s just another way of saying the book includes recent, newsworthy information of public concern that the president wants to conceal and he now has the Department of Justice doing political work for him.

well....he's a dictator...soooooo....

the left has a curious definition of... "free speech"

Please elaborate :thanks:

John R. Bolton, the former national security adviser, says in his new book that the House in its impeachment inquiry should have investigated President Trump not just for pressuring Ukraine to incriminate his domestic foes but for a variety of instances when he sought to intervene in law enforcement matters for political reasons.
Mr. Bolton describes several episodes where the president expressed willingness to halt criminal investigations “to, in effect, give personal favors to dictators he liked,” citing cases involving major firms in China and Turkey. “The pattern looked like obstruction of justice as a way of life, which we couldn’t accept,” Mr. Bolton writes, adding that he reported his concerns to Attorney General William P. Barr.
Mr. Bolton also adds a striking new allegation by saying that Mr. Trump overtly linked trade negotiations to his own political fortunes by asking President Xi Jinping of China to buy a lot of American agricultural products to help him win farm states in this year’s election. Mr. Trump, he writes, was “pleading with Xi to ensure he’d win. He stressed the importance of farmers, and increased Chinese purchases of soybeans and wheat in the electoral outcome.”

Pretty obvious why a Trump will do anything to stop this from coming out ahead of the election, Bolton knows he is a crook, con man and likely a traitor.
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John R. Bolton, the former national security adviser, says in his new book that the House in its impeachment inquiry should have investigated President Trump not just for pressuring Ukraine to incriminate his domestic foes but for a variety of instances when he sought to intervene in law enforcement matters for political reasons.

I've learned to wait for the final verdict before jumping to conclusions. So am highly inclined to not comment on any of this when it is at the accusation stage. But am curious if Trump specifically said he that he "sought to intervene" (sought? or did?) for political reasons, or If Bolton assumed that was his motivation.

Mr. Bolton describes several episodes where the president expressed willingness to halt criminal investigations “to, in effect, give personal favors to dictators he liked,” citing cases involving major firms in China and Turkey. “The pattern looked like obstruction of justice as a way of life, which we couldn’t accept,” Mr. Bolton writes, adding that he reported his concerns to Attorney General William P. Barr.
Mr. Bolton also adds a striking new allegation by saying that Mr. Trump overtly linked trade negotiations to his own political fortunes by asking President Xi Jinping of China to buy a lot of American agricultural products to help him win farm states in this year’s election. Mr. Trump, he writes, was “pleading with Xi to ensure he’d win. He stressed the importance of farmers, and increased Chinese purchases of soybeans and wheat in the electoral outcome.”

Again, did Trump specifically say to Xi that the reason he wanted China to buy American farm products was to ensure he'd win? Or, again, was that Bolton's assumption?

Pretty obvious why a Trump will do anything to stop this from coming out ahead of the election, Bolton knows he is a crook, con man and likely a traitor.


Bolton may "know" all that and can prove it . . . or he can assume that and prove nothing. Wait and see before put foot in mouth.

Bolton may "know" all that and can prove it . . . or he can assume that and prove nothing. Wait and see before put foot in mouth.

Sounds like you don't think it should be called:

I Watched the President Do an Absolute #^&#^&#^&#^& Ton of Crimes and Did Absolutely Nothing About It: The John Bolton Story

I'm sure Bolton just didn't understand Tweetyspeak, is secretly a Democrat, is obviously a liar, misconstrued the deep meaning or it just went over his head because the Stable Genius is playing three dimensional checkers.

Sounds like you don't think it should be called:

I Watched the President Do an Absolute #^&#^&#^&#^& Ton of Crimes and Did Absolutely Nothing About It: The John Bolton Story

I'm sure Bolton just didn't understand Tweetyspeak, is secretly a Democrat, is obviously a liar, misconstrued the deep meaning or it just went over his head because the Stable Genius is playing three dimensional checkers.

I don't have an opinion on what it should be called. I asked a couple of questions, which your reply does not answer.

Mr. Trump did not seem to know, for example, that Britain is a nuclear power and asked if Finland is part of Russia, Mr. Bolton writes. He came closer to withdrawing the United States from NATO than previously known. Even top advisers who position themselves as unswervingly loyal mock him behind his back. During Mr. Trump’s 2018 meeting with North Korea’s leader, according to the book, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo slipped Mr. Bolton a note disparaging the president, saying, “He is so full of s**t.”

I don't have an opinion on what it should be called. I asked a couple of questions, which your reply does not answer.

Every insider account of Trump says basically the same thing. There are always a few new details, but the takeaway is always, always, that he is exactly who he appears to be in public. There are no hidden depths or strategies, no secret store of self-awareness or compassion.
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Please elaborate :thanks:

clearly the left has decided that their "free speech" includes defacing and destroying property, preventing business owners from doing business and or destroying business if they are in the mood, vandalizing the homes of private homeowners, verbally assaulting, physically assaulting people who may not agree with them or happen to be in their path....the left is fortunate that so many law abiding citizens have shown restraint in the face of their provocation and that many in government have been so willing to turn a blind eye to their bad behavior.....this is not new for the left but it is also not sustainable...... but trump "Loves to sue or threaten legal action against information or outlets who he thinks shows him in a bad light! He trying to shut down free speech and intimidate"...last I checked suits and legal action are perfectly legal.....

I Watched the President Do an Absolute #^&#^&#^&#^& Ton of Crimes and Did Absolutely Nothing About It: The John Bolton Story



I thought spence said bolton is super smart?

The White House has known about the Bolton book coming since January. It has been clear for many days that Bolton was moving ahead with publication. A request for an emergency injunction was filed by DoJ ... today.
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clearly the left has decided that their "free speech" includes defacing and destroying property, preventing business owners from doing business and or destroying business if they are in the mood, vandalizing the homes of private homeowners, verbally assaulting, physically assaulting people who may not agree with them or happen to be in their path....the left is fortunate that so many law abiding citizens have shown restraint in the face of their provocation and that many in government have been so willing to turn a blind eye to their bad behavior.....this is not new for the left but it is also not sustainable...... but trump "Loves to sue or threaten legal action against information or outlets who he thinks shows him in a bad light! He trying to shut down free speech and intimidate"...last I checked suits and legal action are perfectly legal.....

Love your defense of Trump last time you checked suits and legal action are perfectly legal . If you have cause , being but hurt isn't cause .. but the same standard isnt applied to Trump ? who cant be sued ?

And. Can you get a bigger brush when you say Left you're the one who some how has attached criminal actions as some expression of free speech... sounds like an antifa comparison from the right over exaggerated based on feeling and liite facts

Maybe some see your list more inline with freedom of expression rather than freedom of speech..

Question who on the left made this decision that's riots looting assaults are freedom of speech. ? I know who .... the Right decided. that's who .

Meanwhile Tweety’s niece spills the “beans” and I quote
The reason for my uncle's surprise visit to Walter Reed is because he can no longer control his bowels.

It's why he stands the way he does. It's why he lurched down the ramp at West Point.

What's more, his bowels operate omnidirectionally.

He spews excrement from both sides.

Though I think she meant “both ends”
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and you started this thread with drip drip drip
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Love your defense of Trump last time you checked suits and legal action are perfectly legal . If you have cause , being but hurt isn't cause .. but the same standard isnt applied to Trump ? who cant be sued ?

And. Can you get a bigger brush when you say Left you're the one who some how has attached criminal actions as some expression of free speech... sounds like an antifa comparison from the right over exaggerated based on feeling and liite facts

Maybe some see your list more inline with freedom of expression rather than freedom of speech..

Question who on the left made this decision that's riots looting assaults are freedom of speech. ? I know who .... the Right decided. that's who .

what???

and you started this thread with drip drip drip
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pete's been drip...drip..dripping for 4 years

pete's been drip...drip..dripping for 4 years

More like...

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More like...

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AnyHospitableGalapagosalbatross-small.gif
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Nailed it. Pretty much what comes out when POTUS opens his piehole.

Nailed it. Pretty much what comes out when POTUS opens his piehole.

Speaking of which, you see who came to wipe his bunghole on police reform day?

Bristol County Sheriff, Joe Arpaio.

You wanna talk swampy, he used to send four armored vans, with two deputies a piece, all the way from Taunton to Burlington, each day.

The deputies all were on detail, on OT, left the vans idling all day, ate free lunch, and talked on their phones all day.

Let’s try the math:

Armored Van gas bill (120 miles/4 miles a gallon) x 4 vans x $2.50 per gallon= $300

8 deputies eating expensed lunch ($15 food plus $10 in sodas) = $200

8 deputies x (10 hours x $30 per hour OT rate) = $2400

That is $2900 in our tax dollars, a day, * 240 working days a year

That’s $696,000 annually, that we paid those guys to sit there all day, every working day, to ensure that if one person seeking asylum at the federal building in Burlington, makes it safely to the ICE detention center in Taunton.

And Trump flew him to Washington to be at his right hand for the signing of the police reform bill.

Absolutely the epitome of filling up a swamp.

Gross.

Bristol County folks, don’t you think we could just hire one Middlesex County deputy who drives a Kia, to save us All about $650,000 a year?

So gross. Pork barrel at its finest.

DISGUSTING!!!!!!
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Meanwhile Tweety’s niece spills the “beans” and I quote
The reason for my uncle's surprise visit to Walter Reed is because he can no longer control his bowels.

It's why he stands the way he does. It's why he lurched down the ramp at West Point.

What's more, his bowels operate omnidirectionally.

He spews excrement from both sides.

Though I think she meant “both ends”
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When you are so full of s*it for so long eventually your going to blow. I hope he doesn’t start hoarding depends, lack of paper towels is one thing our seniors need those diapers.

Speaking of which, you see who came to wipe his bunghole on police reform day?

Bristol County Sheriff, Joe Arpaio.

You wanna talk swampy, he used to send four armored vans, with two deputies a piece, all the way from Taunton to Burlington, each day.

The deputies all were on detail, on OT, left the vans idling all day, ate free lunch, and talked on their phones all day.

Let’s try the math:

Armored Van gas bill (120 miles/4 miles a gallon) x 4 vans x $2.50 per gallon= $300

8 deputies eating expensed lunch ($15 food plus $10 in sodas) = $200

8 deputies x (10 hours x $30 per hour OT rate) = $2400

That is $2900 in our tax dollars, a day, * 240 working days a year

That’s $696,000 annually, that we paid those guys to sit there all day, every working day, to ensure that if one person seeking asylum at the federal building in Burlington, makes it safely to the ICE detention center in Taunton.

And Trump flew him to Washington to be at his right hand for the signing of the police reform bill.

Absolutely the epitome of filling up a swamp.

Gross.

Bristol County folks, don’t you think we could just hire one Middlesex County deputy who drives a Kia, to save us All about $650,000 a year?

So gross. Pork barrel at its finest.

DISGUSTING!!!!!!
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Did you mean Hodgson? Arpiro is in Arizona.

There are basically two options for Tweety’s fluffers here: deny Tweety urged the CCP to put a persecuted religious minority in concentration camps, or defend Tweety urging the CCP to put a persecuted religious minority in concentration camps.
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He is clearly the greatest president of our lifetime

Did you mean Hodgson? Arpiro is in Arizona.

In my opinion Hodgson and Arpaio are pretty much the Sheriffs of Nottingham at this point.

All those corrupt sheriffs pretty much look the same to me.

Swampy.
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I thought spence said bolton is super smart?
He is, it’s a good question why he was so tight lipped when it could have helped the country.
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He is, it’s a good question why he was so tight lipped when it could have helped the country.
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All about the Benjamin's unfortunately
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Could be with a senate full of boot lickers and Trump’s short fuse, he decided to not go down with the ship. Looking forward to his interview airing Sunday, nothing reveled thus far surprises me. Everything always has been all about him and everything he does is geared for his personal benefit.
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In Trump's defense he did make Juneteenth very famous
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Looking forward to his interview airing Sunday, nothing reveled thus far surprises me. Everything always has been all about him and everything he does is geared for his personal benefit.

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you talking about trump or bolton?

you talking about trump or bolton?

Hodgson. He is filling the swamp.
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WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Senator Susan Collins has put John Bolton’s new book in her Amazon cart but is undecided about placing an order for it, Collins confirmed on Thursday.

Speaking to reporters at the Senate, Collins called the decision to pull the trigger on the Bolton book “one of the most wrenching of my career.”

“My computer’s cursor has hovered over the ‘Place your order’ button for hours without clicking on it,” she said. “This is not a decision I take lightly.”

The Republican senator from Maine indicated that, even if she ultimately decides to buy Bolton’s book, she is leaving open the possibility of returning the book to Amazon.

“All options are on the table,” she said.

In her most revealing statement, Collins admitted that she has more than three hundred other items in her Amazon cart that she has yet to commit to buying.

Those items include sunglasses, a hand mixer, several pairs of capri pants, and a beekeeping kit.

Collins said that, although she is interested in pursuing beekeeping as a hobby, she is troubled and concerned about the behavior of bees.

He’s fiddling while it burns
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Wait until Mary Trump's book comes out next month, will make Bolton's book look like nothing.

I love it.

Every time a Trumpanzee supports him I feel like the guy in the “I bet you I can piss in his mouth, and love it” jokes.

Muahahaha!
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And I would Love to see them light the beast on fire while he’s gluing on his green troupe.

Trump sucks!
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WASHINGTON - A federal judge Friday castigated former Trump aide John Bolton for publishing a White House memoir without formal government confirmation that it revealed no classified information but seemed doubtful he could block its imminent publication The judge also blasted Bolton's attorney for not waiting for the government to complete a pre-publication review for classified information before publishing, saying Bolton "didn't get written authority."

"Once he invoked that process, he can't just walk away, and he didn't tell the government he was walking away," Lamberth said.


not super smart....

And I would Love to see them light the beast on fire while he’s gluing on his green troupe.

Trump sucks!
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I would just say that back in the early part of the year I think... there was an SB member who wandered into the political forum and offered some commentary that was not woke and was critical of the left in general.....he was viciously attacked by the more highly educated, always open-minded and generally better people here, I think Skinny Paul led the charge... and that SB member never returned....on behalf of those that may disagree with you, we welcome you and your commentary with open arms and hope you find it as therapeutic as we find it amusing :wave:

I would just say that back in the early part of the year I think... there was an SB member who wandered into the political forum and offered some commentary that was not woke and was critical of the left in general.....he was viciously attacked by the more highly educated, always open-minded and generally better people here, I think Skinny Paul led the charge... and that SB member never returned....on behalf of those that may disagree with you, we welcome you and your commentary with open arms and hope you find it as therapeutic as we find it amusing :wave:

Stop with the personal insults I take offense. Hopefully Kevin will put a stop to this
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I would just say that back in the early part of the year I think... there was an SB member who wandered into the political forum and offered some commentary that was not woke and was critical of the left in general.....he was viciously attacked by the more highly educated, always open-minded and generally better people here, I think Skinny Paul led the charge... and that SB member never returned....on behalf of those that may disagree with you, we welcome you and your commentary with open arms and hope you find it as therapeutic as we find it amusing :wave:

Thank you. Quick question, how many red hats does it take to fill a stadium?

Answer, not enough.

Ima bow out right now, cause I have a big mouth...

I thought educated peeps used good grammar, tho.
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