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nightfighter
02-06-2020, 07:12 AM
Once again, I will be voting against a candidate in a presidential election....
I do not see the candidate I want to back however...
Both sides in the impeachment argued like ten year olds…. Pathetic.
Like Romney, I am there for 80% of policy, but cannot ignore the rest of the picture....
And the following tweet, issued AFTER the acquittal vote, solidified my utter disgust with this man.... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1225174713992990721

Raider Ronnie
02-06-2020, 07:18 AM
Best president of our lifetime !!!
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
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Jim in CT
02-06-2020, 07:20 AM
Once again, I will be voting against a candidate in a presidential election....
I do not see the candidate I want to back however...
Both sides in the impeachment argued like ten year olds…. Pathetic.
Like Romney, I am there for 80% of policy, but cannot ignore the rest of the picture....
And the following tweet, issued AFTER the acquittal vote, solidified my utter disgust with this man.... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1225174713992990721

it was a very immature tweet, but i cracked up. saw it yesterday. very un presidential.
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nightfighter
02-06-2020, 07:25 AM
Not from my experience, Ronnie. That would have been Reagan, by a long shot. And unlike now, my life was vastly improved after that administration's first three plus years.... Not the case today.

Note; I am not going to call you names, nor say your view is right or wrong. Simply presenting my past and current experiences.

Got Stripers
02-06-2020, 08:18 AM
Not from my experience, Ronnie. That would have been Reagan, by a long shot. And unlike now, my life was vastly improved after that administration's first three plus years.... Not the case today.

Note; I am not going to call you names, nor say your view is right or wrong. Simply presenting my past and current experiences.

Ross you are in the wrong place if you think names and insults don’t come your way if you disagree with their views, you possibly will be spared as you aren’t a regular. The bar for greatness, for civility, for right not wrong and adherence to laws has been set so low, it’s really amazing at times.

There is no acceptance here that we all have a right to our views of this administration and when we express our disgust over what we see as wrong, the band of bullies bring insults, even going so far as to involve your family members. In a forum like this it’s easy to act that way as there are no immediate consequences, no penalty for ones actions, it’s not unlike the bullying children are subject to on social media. I don’t loose sleep over it, it’s more of a commentary on their characters and that crap rolls right off my back.

Take away the phones, the internet and put those same remarks in someone’s face and the consequences are usually immediate and might have you looking up at blue sky from your backside.

I to voted last time against this con man and viewed him just like all the republican hypocrites voiced so passionately when running against him and will again. Go back and listen to the 2015/2016 videos of Graham, Cruz, Romney and others when describing Trump to a tea and look at them now, only one has a pair.

SD and his side kicks can now had their two cents.

JohnR
02-06-2020, 08:19 AM
Once again, I will be voting against a candidate in a presidential election....
I do not see the candidate I want to back however...
Both sides in the impeachment argued like ten year olds…. Pathetic.
Like Romney, I am there for 80% of policy, but cannot ignore the rest of the picture....
And the following tweet, issued AFTER the acquittal vote, solidified my utter disgust with this man.... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1225174713992990721

I won't vote against him. My Line That Won't Be Crossed (1A/2A) is under far greater threat from Socialist/Dems than my severe disdain for Trump.


The politics and reactions of both sides have been abhorrent. Our country is sick and neither side is capable of healing it.



Not from my experience, Ronnie. That would have been Reagan, by a long shot. And unlike now, my life was vastly improved after that administration's first three plus years.... Not the case today.

Note; I am not going to call you names, nor say your view is right or wrong. Simply presenting my past and current experiences.

Reagan was the best.

scottw
02-06-2020, 08:33 AM
The politics and reactions of both sides have been abhorrent. Our country is sick and neither side is capable of healing it.





definitely interesting times

scottw
02-06-2020, 08:35 AM
Ross you are in the wrong place if you think names and insults don’t come your way if you disagree with their views, you possibly will be spared as you aren’t a regular. The bar for greatness, for civility, for right not wrong and adherence to laws has been set so low, it’s really amazing at times.

There is no acceptance here that we all have a right to our views of this administration and when we express our disgust over what we see as wrong, the band of bullies bring insults, even going so far as to involve your family members. In a forum like this it’s easy to act that way as there are no immediate consequences, no penalty for ones actions, it’s not unlike the bullying children are subject to on social media. I don’t loose sleep over it, it’s more of a commentary on their characters and that crap rolls right off my back.

Take away the phones, the internet and put those same remarks in someone’s face and the consequences are usually immediate and might have you looking up at blue sky from your backside.

I to voted last time against this con man and viewed him just like all the republican hypocrites voiced so passionately when running against him and will again. Go back and listen to the 2015/2016 videos of Graham, Cruz, Romney and others when describing Trump to a tea and look at them now, only one has a pair.

SD and his side kicks can now had their two cents.

I'm glad you don't lose sleep :laugha:

The Dad Fisherman
02-06-2020, 08:37 AM
I won't vote against him. My Line That Won't Be Crossed (1A/2A) is under far greater threat from Socialist/Dems than my severe disdain for Trump.


The politics and reactions of both sides have been abhorrent. Our country is sick and neither side is capable of healing it.

Reagan was the best.

This^^^^^
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JohnR
02-06-2020, 08:53 AM
This^^^^^
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Thank you my brother from a different lowclasssideoftown

PaulS
02-06-2020, 09:18 AM
definitely interesting times

Wow a non snarky post

PaulS
02-06-2020, 09:18 AM
I'm glad you don't lose sleep :laugha:

back to normal.

afterhours
02-06-2020, 09:24 AM
Ross, agreeing with 80% of policy is about the same as me. My main issues with him are on the conservation end of things. I also do not like the mans behavior one bit, although he makes me chuckle now and again. Like JR said 1a and 2a are very important in my book as well. IMO our country is heading in a good direction economy wise, trade imbalances corrections, border security, military strength. If you waste your vote no way you'll get someone who'll you agree with on 80% of policy. I try to stay out of this forum except to peek in for amusement :).

Sea Dangles
02-06-2020, 09:24 AM
Once again, I will be voting against a candidate in a presidential election....
I do not see the candidate I want to back however...
Both sides in the impeachment argued like ten year olds…. Pathetic.
Like Romney, I am there for 80% of policy, but cannot ignore the rest of the picture....
And the following tweet, issued AFTER the acquittal vote, solidified my utter disgust with this man.... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1225174713992990721
I respect your decision. Heal up young buck.
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Sea Dangles
02-06-2020, 09:27 AM
I'm glad you don't lose sleep :laugha:

Don’t you mean loose.
🤡🤡🤡
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scottw
02-06-2020, 09:34 AM
. I try to stay out of this forum except to peek in for amusement :).



there is some pretty funny stuff that goes on here....I give the boys high marks for creativity(especially spelling and grammar) and good humor...:hihi:

nightfighter
02-06-2020, 09:55 AM
I respect your decision. Heal up young buck.
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Thank you, Chris. I do appreciate that.

nightfighter
02-06-2020, 10:03 AM
Ross, agreeing with 80% of policy is about the same as me. My main issues with him are on the conservation end of things. I also do not like the mans behavior one bit, although he makes me chuckle now and again. Like JR said 1a and 2a are very important in my book as well. IMO our country is heading in a good direction economy wise, trade imbalances corrections, border security, military strength. If you waste your vote no way you'll get someone who'll you agree with on 80% of policy. I try to stay out of this forum except to peek in for amusement :).

Excellent point about finding another with 80% parallel position, Don. As is second amendment.
However, I fear we may look back at this period and say, "what the hell were you/we thinking? How could you not see this developing?" History will be the judge, but the man's personal characteristics and lack of morals are too dangerous to ignore, never mind him being in the penultimate office of the land.
It should be up to his supporters to demand some change in his MO. Otherwise he continues to just be empowered to tweet and destroy any and all who cross him....

Raider Ronnie
02-06-2020, 10:21 AM
Not from my experience, Ronnie. That would have been Reagan, by a long shot. And unlike now, my life was vastly improved after that administration's first three plus years.... Not the case today.

Note; I am not going to call you names, nor say your view is right or wrong. Simply presenting my past and current experiences.



On accomplishments they are close but other than getting shot by a lunatic, Regan didn’t come close the having to deal with the media bias, the internet and people on fishing forums bashing every single move he made and the democrats going completely off the deep end.
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scottw
02-06-2020, 10:27 AM
penultimate

....

nice one :read:

nightfighter
02-06-2020, 11:17 AM
nice one :read:

And I screwed that one up.... you got me looking it up. So I should have used 'ultimate'....
Which means I have been using that word incorrectly all along....:smash:

scottw
02-06-2020, 11:59 AM
And I screwed that one up.... you got me looking it up. So I should have used 'ultimate'....
Which means I have been using that word incorrectly all along....:smash:

no I liked it...it was educational for the boys...they learned something today :tm:

Got Stripers
02-06-2020, 03:11 PM
Don’t you mean loose.
🤡🤡🤡
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If I didn't proceed with giving a crap about a spelling error on occasion, you wouldn't have the opportunity to show everyone how petty you are, I'm just helping you show your true colors.

nightfighter
02-06-2020, 03:21 PM
On accomplishments they are close but other than getting shot by a lunatic, Regan didn’t come close the having to deal with the media bias, the internet and people on fishing forums bashing every single move he made and the democrats going completely off the deep end.
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Yeah, I guess your right. Reagan didn't come close... Especially when you look at turnover, convictions and jailing of presidential advisors...

Sorry Ronnie. I have to consider the big picture. And this president is doing as much bashing as he is getting in all media forums...

And I am sick of being lied to by the Chief Executive. Pretty simple what he needs to stop doing.

Tell me this; What would you do if Leo were to start a pattern of repetitive lying? To you? Over and over again? Would you just start accepting what he says as truth because he keeps saying it? Or would you tell him to stop?

afterhours
02-06-2020, 03:30 PM
Ross, if ANY politician/elected officials lips move you have better than even odds are they lying....just saying.

Sea Dangles
02-06-2020, 06:23 PM
If I didn't proceed with giving a crap about a spelling error on occasion, you wouldn't have the opportunity to show everyone how petty you are, I'm just helping you show your true colors.

Did you mean precede?
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Got Stripers
02-06-2020, 07:01 PM
Did you mean precede?
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No actually but I see the without was dropped to with, but there you are proving my point, but seriously I worry about your cognitive skills if you can’t grasp the meanings with a misspelling here and there, or their:jump:

Sea Dangles
02-06-2020, 07:05 PM
No actually but I see the without was dropped to with, but there you are proving my point, but seriously I worry about your cognitive skills if you can’t grasp the meanings with a misspelling here and there, or their:jump:
Happy to help amigo!
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Sea Dangles
02-06-2020, 07:06 PM
Hope you noticed the irony!
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PaulS
02-06-2020, 07:15 PM
Hope you noticed the irony!
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That you point out people's misspellings as if that is a reflection of their intelligence, but you show no intelligence in your actual posts? Yes I do see the irony.
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PaulS
02-06-2020, 07:17 PM
Ross, if ANY politician/elected officials lips move you have better than even odds are they lying....just saying.

I disagree. I think most politicians are good honorable people who try to tell the truth as much as they can. .
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Sea Dangles
02-06-2020, 08:11 PM
I disagree. I think most politicians are good honorable people who try to tell the truth as much as they can. .
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Look up the definition of gullible. And stay away from your boys Wiener and his charming stories of happy snowflakes.
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Nebe
02-06-2020, 09:25 PM
Trump is a piece of chit. A talking butthole. A self enriching corrupt douche nozzle who doesn’t give 2 flying fuks about anyone on this board or anyone who doesn’t have less than 50 million dollars in assets. How many lies is he up to?
What a cancer on our nations soul....
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Sea Dangles
02-06-2020, 09:52 PM
Trump is a piece of chit. A talking butthole. A self enriching corrupt douche nozzle who doesn’t give 2 flying fuks about anyone on this board or anyone who doesn’t have less than 50 million dollars in assets. How many lies is he up to?
What a cancer on our nations soul....
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👍🏿
The previous prezzes loved this board.
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Pete F.
02-06-2020, 10:26 PM
👍🏿
The previous prezzes loved this country.
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Fixed it for you, Nancy

scottw
02-06-2020, 10:36 PM
Trump is a piece of chit. A talking butthole. A self enriching corrupt douche nozzle who doesn’t give 2 flying fuks about anyone on this board or anyone who doesn’t have less than 50 million dollars in assets. How many lies is he up to?

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I think the last official count was a bazillion

scottw
02-06-2020, 10:37 PM
I think most politicians are good honorable people who try to tell the truth as much as they can. .


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:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:

rphud
02-08-2020, 09:55 AM
It's really the Senate that matters. My fav factoid of the week (thank you James Carville, and believe me that is the first time I said that) is less than 20% of the electorate determine over 50% of the Senate. Electoral College be damned!

If you could only get Mayor B off his 2a thing, I'm just sayin'

2024 will be the real test me thinks, the pendulum may take a big swing that year

Raider Ronnie
02-08-2020, 02:05 PM
I disagree. I think most politicians are good honorable people who try to tell the truth as much as they can. .
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You should move to Disney and put on a costume
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Sea Dangles
02-08-2020, 05:11 PM
Good post Ronnie
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wdmso
02-08-2020, 07:49 PM
US President Donald Trump has defended firing a senior official who testified against him at his impeachment trial, saying he was "very insubordinate".


Now telling the truth is being insubordinate or being related


PS His twin brother, Army Lt. Col. Yevgeny Vindman, was also escorted off White House grounds at the same time and apparently dismissed from his post at the National Security Council.

I know no authoritarian tendencies :btu:

Sea Dangles
02-08-2020, 08:55 PM
Not team players I guess.
The Army needs good men too.👍🏿
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Pete F.
02-09-2020, 05:59 AM
Floridaman got 44.8% in 2018. He suffered the worst electoral defeat in the House ever, he’s been impeached and then put on the most divisive performance of any Reality TV star.
Come the election he’s going to be voted off the island.
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wdmso
02-09-2020, 08:18 AM
Not team players I guess.
The Army needs good men too.👍🏿
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Vindman had problems with judgement, adhering to the chain of command and leaking information".

All lies and conspiracy and easily fall under UCMJ if actually true..

100 other reasons to remove him legitimately, but Trump went with discredit and lie . Now i know why he pardoned the navy seal ( he expects subordinates to do as told regardless of the law or the regulations)
And his support agree
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PaulS
02-09-2020, 08:20 AM
Look up the definition of gullible. And stay away from your boys Wiener and his charming stories of happy snowflakes.
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I know what gullible is. . And I also know what nepotism is. Which you do not. Maybe you should look it up and you won't took so stupid. .
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Sea Dangles
02-09-2020, 12:26 PM
I know what gullible is. . And I also know what nepotism is. Which you do not. Maybe you should look it up and you won't took so stupid. .
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While you may be concerned with my looks perhaps you should focus more on my actions. This is fun, thanks for playing.
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scottw
02-09-2020, 12:32 PM
Maybe you should look it up and you won't took so stupid. .



precious

Sea Dangles
02-09-2020, 01:57 PM
Floridaman got 44.8% in 2018. He suffered the worst electoral defeat in the House ever, he’s been impeached and then put on the most divisive performance of any Reality TV star.
Come the election he’s going to be voted off the island.
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Would you care to place a wager on this prediction because I do not see it playing out the way you do.?I am sure you could use some easy $

Otherwise you are just making noise
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PaulS
02-09-2020, 02:36 PM
precious

Why is Kevin editing Scott's post?
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wdmso
02-09-2020, 03:12 PM
Photo from White House south lawn draws amusement

cries fake news as image of dramatic orange tan line goes viral

Indignant Trump says image ‘photoshopped,

wdmso
02-09-2020, 03:13 PM
Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Pete Rose played Major League Baseball for 24 seasons, from 1963-1986, and had more hits, 4,256, than any other player (by a wide margin). He gambled, but only on his own team winning, and paid a decades long price. GET PETE ROSE INTO THE BASEBALL HALL OF FAME. It’s Time!


wow fits right in with his embracing foul play (no Pun intended ) and rule of law and regulations

The Dad Fisherman
02-09-2020, 03:35 PM
Why is Kevin editing Scott's post?
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I just fixed the Quote tags I do that a lot on a lot of posts to help with readability.
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Sea Dangles
02-09-2020, 05:30 PM
Good post TDF
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RIROCKHOUND
02-09-2020, 05:54 PM
Good post TDF
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Nice brownnosing, Chris
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Sea Dangles
02-09-2020, 07:14 PM
Nice brownnosing, Chris
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Thanks for sharing Tautog jr.
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piemma
02-10-2020, 07:20 AM
Trump is a piece of chit. A talking butthole. A self enriching corrupt douche nozzle who doesn’t give 2 flying fuks about anyone on this board or anyone who doesn’t have less than 50 million dollars in assets. How many lies is he up to?
What a cancer on our nations soul....
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He will be re-elected in November. I'll take bets.

PaulS
02-10-2020, 08:21 AM
If the economy stays strong he should win.

scottw
02-10-2020, 08:29 AM
BIDEN CALLS SKEPTICAL NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTER ‘A LYING, DOG-FACED PONY SOLDIER’

The dust-up came after the voter asked whether he can rebound from Iowa

Feb 9, 2020




this is so much fun

RIROCKHOUND
02-10-2020, 09:35 AM
He will be re-elected in November. I'll take bets.

That may be true but it doesn't make what Eben said untrue either....

Sea Dangles
02-10-2020, 09:59 AM
That may be true but it doesn't make what Eben said untrue either....

Good post Bryan.
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Raider Ronnie
02-10-2020, 10:42 AM
He will be re-elected in November. I'll take bets.


He’s going to win in a landslide bigger than Regan over Mondale.
Just look at Biden how he finished in Iowa and is expected to finish last or single digits in NH.
Trumps approval rating keeps going up, even throughout this impeachment hoax.
The people are seeing through it and are tired of the usual Washington bull#^&#^&#^&#^& and corruption.
All these career politicians saying they are going to fix things yet every one of them have been office 20-30 years and have done nothing but make themselves filthy rich.
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Got Stripers
02-10-2020, 10:45 AM
Good post Bryan.
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Any CEO or employee behaving like Trump and they would be fired and probably the company would be settling a law suit, it’s pretty sad it’s now considered acceptable.
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Sea Dangles
02-10-2020, 10:54 AM
Any CEO or employee behaving like Trump and they would be fired and probably the company would be settling a law suit, it’s pretty sad it’s now considered acceptable.
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It’s a shame that it had to come to this point. Great post👍🏿
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scottw
02-10-2020, 10:54 AM
If the economy stays strong he should win.

we need more of this kind of deep thinking....

Sea Dangles
02-10-2020, 10:56 AM
we need more of this kind of deep thinking....

I am hoping you get the snarky that you richly deserve. Serve it up Paulie.🤡🤡🤡
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PaulS
02-10-2020, 11:12 AM
we need more of this kind of deep thinking....

Sad snarky person.

I am hoping you get the snarky that you richly deserve. Serve it up Paulie.������
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I'm impressed.

piemma
02-10-2020, 12:08 PM
That may be true but it doesn't make what Eben said untrue either....

….and I didn't say it did Bryan.

Nebe
02-10-2020, 12:31 PM
He’s going to win in a landslide bigger than Regan over Mondale.
Just look at Biden how he finished in Iowa and is expected to finish last or single digits in NH.
Trumps approval rating keeps going up, even throughout this impeachment hoax.
The people are seeing through it and are tired of the usual Washington bull#^&#^&#^&#^& and corruption.
All these career politicians saying they are going to fix things yet every one of them have been office 20-30 years and have done nothing but make themselves filthy rich.
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The problem here is you think the gop doesn’t do the same.
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Raider Ronnie
02-10-2020, 01:45 PM
The problem here is you think the gop doesn’t do the same.
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The gop sucks also.
I’ve said it many time.
Trump supporters don’t consider him part of Either parties establishment.
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Nebe
02-10-2020, 08:30 PM
The gop sucks also.
I’ve said it many time.
Trump supporters don’t consider him part of Either parties establishment.
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And watch out. He’s about to slash social security and Medicaid.
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spence
02-10-2020, 08:46 PM
And watch out. He’s about to slash social security and Medicaid.
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Fake news. He promised not to in the state of the union address.
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scottw
02-11-2020, 07:09 AM
Sad snarky person.

.

I'm only sad when you aren't around to play

PaulS
02-11-2020, 07:25 AM
I'm only sad when you aren't around to play

Maybe but you certainly are snarky whether I am here or not.

scottw
02-11-2020, 07:36 AM
Maybe but you certainly are snarky whether I am here or not.

I'm pretty consistent....

Nebe
02-11-2020, 12:36 PM
Fake news. He promised not to in the state of the union address.
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Lol
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wdmso
02-11-2020, 03:55 PM
Justice Department to seek lighter sentence for Roger Stone after Trump calls recommendation 'unfair'

Just add it to the pile ... funny who Trump and his supporters see as victims they believe it's a deep state plot

spence
02-11-2020, 03:56 PM
Justice Department to seek lighter sentence for Roger Stone after Trump calls recommendation 'unfair'

Just add it to the pile ... funny who Trump and his supporters see as victims
Nothing to see here, Roger is an innocent and good man. Trump said so.

Got Stripers
02-11-2020, 04:34 PM
No surprise when Trump owns the AG

spence
02-11-2020, 06:02 PM
No surprise when Trump owns the AG
Will be time for another impeachment soon.
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nightfighter
02-11-2020, 06:43 PM
How is it that Stone isn't already in jail??? That seems like eons ago...

spence
02-11-2020, 06:55 PM
How is it that Stone isn't already in jail??? That seems like eons ago...
It’s just totally off the rails. This is the most corrupt administration I’ve ever seen. The GOP is totally complicit...it’s bizarre.
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Sea Dangles
02-11-2020, 08:24 PM
This should be looked into,after the Limbaugh inquisition.
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detbuch
02-11-2020, 10:29 PM
This should be looked into,after the Limbaugh inquisition.
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It is being looked into.

Spence, et. al., having been jumping the gun for the past three or four years, sopping up fake MSM news that has been wrong or misleading. There will be much more coming out that proves them wrong again (and again).

This is an inkling, re Stone and so much more (Ukraine, Flynn, Mueller . . . ) of more to come to make Spence's narrative as wrong as it has been all along:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHzKsyg1oKY

scottw
02-12-2020, 05:01 AM
more to come to make Spence's narrative as wrong as it has been all along:



we can give spence credit for being persistently wrong :hihi:

Pete F.
02-12-2020, 08:15 AM
Barr’s manifest interference in these cases—which Floridaman, who appointed him, is celebrating this morning—was started by the sudden shuttering of the special counsel’s office shortly after his confirmation and the transfer of its ongoing matters to US Attorneys’ offices.

Those transfers meant, for the Flynn and Stone cases, the DC US Attorney Jessie Liu stood in the shoes of Robert Mueller.

In recent days, Trump replaced Liu with one of Barr’s lackeys, initially promising her a Treasury job, and then unceremoniously dumping her.

Mueller documented all the ways Trump tried to fire him and damage his prosecutions when he was still on the job, and the WH aides that stood up to him.

Mueller’s successor actually was fired here, Mueller’s cases were damaged, and all the line prosecutors could do is resign.

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wdmso
02-12-2020, 08:24 AM
Trump supporters don’t consider him part of Either parties establishment.
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And that the ringer... they support someone willingly dismantling the government and all its agency's along with the press , and allow him to turn American into something unrecognizable from anything in our history

wdmso
02-12-2020, 08:30 AM
It is being looked into.

Spence, et. al., having been jumping the gun for the past three or four years, sopping up fake MSM news that has been wrong or misleading. There will be much more coming out that proves them wrong again (and again).

This is an inkling, re Stone and so much more (Ukraine, Flynn, Mueller . . . ) of more to come to make Spence's narrative as wrong as it has been all along:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHzKsyg1oKY

1st take away Trump takes advice from Fox and acts

2nd Nunes love deepstate conspiracy

3rd eveythings is Obama's fault and his hold overs :btu:

PaulS
02-12-2020, 08:30 AM
I believe all 4 prosecutors involved in the case resigned
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Pete F.
02-12-2020, 08:32 AM
Had Trump and his goons forced out Mueller and scuttled his prosecutions, it would’ve been a top level crisis. The same should be true for the people finishing his work.

It’s also a reminder that we never learned why Mueller closed his office so suddenly with so much left to do.
I think, in any congressional hearings that result from this, that has to be a key question now. Mueller and his people should come back to the Hill without a bunch of absurd prenegotiated restrictions and be candid about what happened to them under Whitaker and Barr.
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scottw
02-12-2020, 08:35 AM
Had Trump and his goons forced out Mueller and scuttled his prosecutions, it would’ve been a top level crisis.


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think of the money we could have saved over what was nothing more than a democrat tantrum

scottw
02-12-2020, 08:36 AM
I believe all 4 prosecutors involved in the case resigned
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draining the swamp

meanwhile...a communist is the democrat frontrunner

Pete F.
02-12-2020, 10:18 AM
draining the swamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg9ypxT9V3g

meanwhile...a communist is the democrat frontrunner

Actually he's a Democratic Socialist and every bit as much of a Communist as Floridaman is a Nazi.

Floridaman's end results will be the same as Bernie's

Floridaman claimed that tariffs are “the greatest,” and trade wars are “easy to win,” but the economic backlash was easy to foresee. The political success of Bernie brought “democratic socialism” to 30% of the Democratic Party, Floridaman’s economic nationalism will end up at the same destination for all.

Floridaman’s tariffs enable him to directly pick winners and losers in the economy. The interests of steel workers are being placed above the interest of consumers and farmers. This leads to Floridaman using tax dollars to prop up farmers. Of course this spending means that consumers are hit, with their tax dollars paying for Floridaman's new welfare program. Floridaman's welfare goes to large corporate farms, he's losing support from the little guys. Probably things will trickle down to them.

Floridaman's tariffs cause businesses to seek ways around them, like Harley moving some manufacturing to Europe. This pissed off Floridaman. The more Floridaman digs in to protectionism, the more he will interfere with individual companies.

The domestic policy of government interference with business is a necessary corollary of present-day protectionism.

The result is an economy that increasingly replaces the market with state control.

Floridaman's policies are just as great a long term threat to the American economy as that posed by the Sanderistas.

detbuch
02-12-2020, 11:22 AM
Floridaman's policies are just as great a long term threat to the American economy as that posed by the Sanderistas.

Floridaman's policies are not long term. Trade wars are not meant to last long term. They are meant to resolve trade issues in the short term.

Before the Floridaman, we had the stagnant NewNormalman who resolved to continue the managed decline of America in the face of a presumed inevitable rise of China to replace us as the dominant world economic power which would take our place and replace the dollar as the primary world currency with its own Yuan.

Apparently, protectionism in other countries, at the expense of the U.S., didn't suffer the consequences in some of those countries that you say it should. But, it is likely, that if the U.S. decides not to be the patsy anymore, then that foreign protectionism will collapse, as you say it should. Ergo, the need for the U.S. to fight back, not by military war, but economic war.

Some of the Trade policies that hurt us pre-Floridaman have been peacefully negotiated (NAFTA, Japan, SKorea). Britain is coming up. China is in the works. Our economy is in fine shape. The new trade relationships should help to keep it that way.

If that all falls apart, it was heading into crap anyway.

Pete F.
02-12-2020, 11:55 AM
If that all falls apart, it was heading into crap anyway.

Because Floridaman is the "Chosen One"

Now explain what "redemption money" is and how it's paying for the wall

PaulS
02-12-2020, 01:06 PM
draining the swamp

The current admin. Is turning our country into a cess pool.
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detbuch
02-12-2020, 01:20 PM
Because Floridaman is the "Chosen One"


Yes, he was chosen by the American people. A lot of them didn't like the policies of the NewNormalman, or the InvadeIraqman, or the Promisegoldbutdelivershineyturdstypicalpolitician-man.

Florida is a nice state.

scottw
02-12-2020, 01:21 PM
The current admin. Is turning our country into a cess pool.
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such a sore loser......

PaulS
02-12-2020, 02:34 PM
such a sore loser......

You should use "democrap" more.
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The Dad Fisherman
02-12-2020, 03:01 PM
The current admin. Is turning our country into a cess pool.
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Drama much?
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wdmso
02-12-2020, 03:21 PM
Drama much?
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To bad Trump creates all the drama


"Congratulations to Attorney General Bill Barr for taking charge of a case that was totally out of control and perhaps should not have even been brought," Trump said on Twitter. "Evidence now clearly shows that the Mueller Scam was improperly brought & tainted. Even Bob Mueller lied to Congress!"

The Dad Fisherman
02-12-2020, 03:50 PM
To bad Trump creates all the drama


Well I guess they both have some common ground then
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PaulS
02-12-2020, 04:05 PM
Drama much?
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Dont think so. But thanks for adding to the discussion.
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Pete F.
02-12-2020, 04:12 PM
Drama, baloney, Floridaman just said he didn't know what Roger Stone did to deserve 9 years.

Here's the answer: Stone was convicted by a jury of his peers in a Federal Court of 7 felonies with a maximum sentence of 50 years. He lied, obstructed Congress and threatened a witness against him. 9 years is fair, within the sentencing guidelines and deserved.

Now we should ask why Floridaman doesn't understand that.

Sea Dangles
02-12-2020, 04:49 PM
I love it. More feigned outrage from the flakes
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The Dad Fisherman
02-12-2020, 05:53 PM
Dont think so. But thanks for adding to the discussion.
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No problem, because calling the country a cesspool is riveting commentary
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PaulS
02-12-2020, 06:29 PM
No problem, because calling the country a cesspool is riveting commentary
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Well, if you don't like the commentary then ignore it. Because I hardly ever see you adding anything to this forum. I'm sure we can get by without the occasional meme.
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Jim in CT
02-12-2020, 06:39 PM
Well, if you don't like the commentary then ignore it. Because I hardly ever see you adding anything to this forum. I'm sure we can get by without the occasional meme.
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do you have any evidence that the nation is more of a right wing cesspool than it was in 2016?
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spence
02-12-2020, 06:52 PM
do you have any evidence that the nation is more of a right wing cesspool than it was in 2016?
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Exhibit A is this board. I wouldn’t go there Jim.
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Got Stripers
02-12-2020, 07:16 PM
All those DOJ prosecutors resigned because they got better job offers and not because Trump’s highered gun exerted influence over established sentencing guidelines.

Jim in CT
02-12-2020, 07:29 PM
Exhibit A is this board. I wouldn’t go there Jim.
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this board of 10 people speaks for the country? not buying it. look at the politically motivated riots and violence of the last 25 years, tell me what % were motivated by conservatives. it’s a very, very low number.
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scottw
02-12-2020, 08:10 PM
Well, if you don't like the commentary then ignore it. Because I hardly ever see you adding anything to this forum. I'm sure we can get by without the occasional meme.
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cranky snowflake

PaulS
02-12-2020, 08:18 PM
cranky snowflake

Keep trying snarky one. You must be fun to hang out with.
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detbuch
02-12-2020, 08:58 PM
Drama, baloney, Floridaman just said he didn't know what Roger Stone did to deserve 9 years.

Here's the answer: Stone was convicted by a jury of his peers in a Federal Court of 7 felonies with a maximum sentence of 50 years. He lied, obstructed Congress and threatened a witness against him. 9 years is fair, within the sentencing guidelines and deserved.

Now we should ask why Floridaman doesn't understand that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn47utJsYXQ

The Dad Fisherman
02-12-2020, 09:16 PM
Well, if you don't like the commentary then ignore it. Because I hardly ever see you adding anything to this forum. .
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You know, you can do the exact same thing to Scottw's and SD's posts too

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PaulS
02-12-2020, 09:33 PM
You know, you can do the exact same thing to Scottw's and SD's posts too

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I could but they constantly try to insult me directly and no one does that to you. I see no reason to take it from either of them.
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Sea Dangles
02-12-2020, 10:28 PM
I could but they constantly try to insult me directly and no one does that to you. I see no reason to take it from either of them.
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Such a big, brave lad.
Don’t forget to remind him of how much you add to the political discourse. With all your valid points and hard hitting discussions.
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Sea Dangles
02-12-2020, 10:32 PM
Exhibit A is this board. I wouldn’t go there Jim.
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90% of what you read on this board are responses to insignificant 1st world problems created by Butthurt dem snowflakes. There really wouldn’t be much negativity without the constant bellyaching put forth by malcontents.
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Pete F.
02-13-2020, 04:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn47utJsYXQ

So Floridaman doesn’t understand, because he listens to lying politicians on Faux?
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scottw
02-13-2020, 05:25 AM
I could but they constantly try to insult me directly and no one does that to you. I see no reason to take it from either of them.
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this is heartbreaking.....I will make it up to you on our fishing date

Jim in CT
02-13-2020, 06:29 AM
I I see no reason to take it from either of them.
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so it’s ok when you strike back. but a character flaw if others do it.
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PaulS
02-13-2020, 08:29 AM
Such a big, brave lad.
Don’t forget to remind him of how much you add to the political discourse. With all your valid points and hard hitting discussions.
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Ok, Mr irrelevant.

PaulS
02-13-2020, 08:34 AM
so it’s ok when you strike back. but a character flaw if others do it.
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Well I don't call people Puss ys or a little twerp like you, and other things (usually unprompted) bc you don't like their post. I think you called a woman a whore recently.

Doesn't RR say "The only good Dem is a dead Dem."

SD most recent favorite post is calling people bitchslapped

Classy folks here.

You would be hard pressed to find me insulting people first unlike many people here.

scottw
02-13-2020, 08:44 AM
I think paul needs a hug

Sea Dangles
02-13-2020, 08:45 AM
His defense is like a 5 year old

But
But
He started it
🍼
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PaulS
02-13-2020, 09:24 AM
His defense is like a 5 year old

But
But
He started it
��
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I guess I can call people names on the internet like you do constantly and then claim others are tough guys.

Sea Dangles
02-13-2020, 09:46 AM
I guess I can call people names on the internet like you do constantly and then claim others are tough guys.

Don’t you have some skirts to finish hemming?
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PaulS
02-13-2020, 10:04 AM
Good one tough guy.

detbuch
02-13-2020, 10:23 AM
So Floridaman doesn’t understand, because he listens to lying politicians on Faux?
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Apparently, he understands more than the swampmen who have been wrong about "obstruction" and "collusion" and "abuse of power" and the collapse of the economy and are in cahoots with the lying leftist politicians.

The DOJ had already concluded that the sentencing was too harsh before Trump said anything. But the swampment had to create yet another fiction by saying that Trump corruptly influenced them.

Jim in CT
02-13-2020, 10:24 AM
Well I don't call people Puss ys or a little twerp like you, and other things (usually unprompted) bc you don't like their post. I think you called a woman a whore recently.

Doesn't RR say "The only good Dem is a dead Dem."

SD most recent favorite post is calling people bitchslapped

Classy folks here.

You would be hard pressed to find me insulting people first unlike many people here.

i agree you don’t routinely do
it first.

you saw what pete wrote about my mom, right? when all i did, was ask him a fair and obvious question, and i did it politely.

You didnt care about what he said, because your ethics are selective, depending on the politics involved.

A little consistency would go a long way.
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Sea Dangles
02-13-2020, 10:33 AM
i agree you don’t routinely do
it first.

you saw what pete wrote about my mom, right? when all i did, was ask him a fair and obvious question, and i did it politely.

You didnt care about what he said, because your ethics are selective, depending on the politics involved.

A little consistency would go a long way.
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The only part that disturbed him was when you responded by calling Bitchslappedboy a pussy.
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PaulS
02-13-2020, 10:55 AM
i agree you don’t routinely do
it first.

you saw what pete wrote about my mom, right? when all i did, was ask him a fair and obvious question, and i did it politely.

You didnt care about what he said, because your ethics are selective, depending on the politics involved.

A little consistency would go a long way.
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I only saw what he said after it was pointed out to me as I don't read every post here and frequently skip the longer posts. I'm not a moderator here so it is not my job to police every post.

Jim in CT
02-13-2020, 11:01 AM
I only saw what he said after it was pointed out to me as I don't read every post here and frequently skip the longer posts. I'm not a moderator here so it is not my job to police every post.

you also said you didn’t care what he said. but you care what the conservatives say. You seem to think it's your job to police those with whom you disagree.
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Sea Dangles
02-13-2020, 11:14 AM
Good post Jim
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Sea Dangles
02-13-2020, 11:20 AM
In his world, he is the moderator and exercises his right to deem what is an appropriate contribution.
🤡🤡🤡🤡
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PaulS
02-13-2020, 11:57 AM
you also said you didn’t care what he said. but you care what the conservatives say. You seem to think it's your job to police those with whom you disagree.
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I don't care what he does as I don't care what a few others do. I only care about people say to/about me.

Jim in CT
02-13-2020, 01:02 PM
I only care about people say to/about me.

so you didn’t criticize me multiple times, for the way i responded to pete’s comments about my saintly mom. so i’m a paranoid schizophrenic.

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Sea Dangles
02-13-2020, 08:27 PM
Don’t expect intellectual honesty from a person void of intellect.
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scottw
02-13-2020, 09:02 PM
I only care about people say to/about me.



this is terrible sentence structure...