With the coronavirus killing thousands and threatening to tank the global economy, I feel like more people should be talking about the fact that Trump fired the entire pandemic response team two years ago and then didn't replace them.
Trump also cut funding for the CDC, forcing the CDC to cancel its efforts to help countries prevent infectious-disease threats from becoming epidemics in 39 of 49 countries in 2018.
Among the countries abandoned? China.
This isn't just about accountability. It's about drawing attention to the structural problems in the US response effort before things get worse.
And it’s not limited to diseases, the increased structural problems carry through all national security operations.
But he’s saving you money, just what is 3% of the DOW, never mind the danger to Americans here and abroad worth.

🙀
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rest easy everyone, the guy who said to rake the forest and water-bomb the cathedral and nuke the hurricane knows exactly how to handle this global pandemic thing
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America 1st
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The Chinese Communist Party suppressed information from the beginning of this coronavirus. It would not have wanted to expose the outbreak to any foreign government if it could have kept it quiet. Our CDC could not have done anything about it at the crucial time of its beginning because the CCP would not want any foreign government, especially not the American, to be responsible for helping to control the outbreak. It did not even want the rest of China to know about it. Secrecy and lies, in crises like this, are necessary in order to enforce what the CCP considers "social stability." Admitting that foreign help was needed would cause the CCP to lose face and be damaging to its hold on power. The U.S. has offered to help three times already but China refused.

At this point, if necessary, Congress can provide funding for the CDC or pharmaceutical research in order to do what is necessary here.

China is responsible for this coronavirus, not Trump.

With the Hong Kong rebellion, trade war with the U.S., and now this virus which may result in several tens of millions of Chinese deaths, may all destroy the Chinese economy and bring down the CCP.

While our Press was low key for a while, The Epoch Times has published several articles early on and has exposed that it was worse than the Chinese were admitting once they had to confess that the virus existed.

pete, we’re all surprised to note that you departed from your usual routine, and blamed it all on Trump.
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I'm pretty sure Pete didn't blame Trump, he pointed out that some moves made might not be so wise, especially in light of how this might spread. I think it's pretty clear the Chinese government hid this for as long as they could and now unfortunately the rest of the world is going to pay some of the price.

Hey on a side note, I know this isn't Jim's house, because he is from CT, I would envision this to be more of an SD front yard.

there's always a tweet and he thinks it's a good time to get in the market!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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16h
The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!

Market is down 1000 points ,, and not sure how you can blame China a nation of 1.3 billion for the spread of virus that's new to the world with no cure and seems to spread easily,, trust me the USA can't handle such a outbreak,

"I think that's a problem that's going to go away," Trump said during a trip to India, expressing confidence that the epidemic will not seriously harm the global economy.


Yet Trump after weeks of telling Americans that China has a lid on the situation,,, is he lying trying not to be an alarmist or does his administration and advisers not have a clue

I'm pretty sure Pete didn't blame Trump, he pointed out that some moves made might not be so wise, especially in light of how this might spread. I think it's pretty clear the Chinese government hid this for as long as they could and now unfortunately the rest of the world is going to pay some of the price.

Hey on a side note, I know this isn't Jim's house, because he is from CT, I would envision this to be more of an SD front yard.

You are an idiot if you think my house is that small.
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As Agolf Admin spreads disinformation
Consider the facts:
Coronavirus carriers often have light symptoms - detection/containment hard as w/ flu
The Coronavirus case-based fatality is about 2%
Flu = 0.14%
2019 - US flu killed 34k And we have a vaccine
Best case ETA corona vaccine - 1 yr
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You are an idiot if you think my house is that small.
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No I envision your lawn might look like that covered in Trump love, seems your comprehension skills are slipping again, next time I will be clearer so you can more easily catch the hidden meaning.
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Market is down 1000 points ,,

which might attract speculators who buy when the market is low. A trend that would "look good" to buy and sell speculators.

and not sure how you can blame China a nation of 1.3 billion for the spread of virus that's new to the world with no cure and seems to spread easily,,

Because China did not immediately expose the problem, letting it unnecessarily spread, and then refusing offered help.

trust me the USA can't handle such a outbreak,

Ugh . . hard to trust you . . . maybe you're right this time . . . hope not.

"I think that's a problem that's going to go away," Trump said during a trip to India, expressing confidence that the epidemic will not seriously harm the global economy.


Yet Trump after weeks of telling Americans that China has a lid on the situation,,, is he lying trying not to be an alarmist

That's the general view of those who don't have TDS.

or does his administration and advisers not have a clue

No doubt that is your view. After all, as you say, "the USA can't handle such a outbreak"

Agolf has shown no aversion to central planning, social engineering, protectionism, and corporate welfare in his first three years in office. Imagine all the self-serving and counterproductive economic meddling he’ll engage in should we face an economic downturn.
And it looks like one is starting..........
Nobody cares that he’s artificially inflating the economy and manipulating the market, for example he’ll come back from India and act like he’s got some great trade deal the best in the history of the world! No ones ever seen anything like it!

🏴#^&☠️

“There’s no recession coming. The pessimistas were wrong. It’s not going to happen. . . The Bush boom is alive and well.”
- Larry Kudlow, December, 2007

"We have contained this, I won't say airtight but pretty close to airtight." -- Kudlow, on @CNBC now.

Good thing Larry Kudlow is never catastrophically wrong about things.

how’s your IRA doing since January 2017?
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DHS Secretary Chad Wolf claims the mortality rate for coronavirus is similar to the flu, both at about 2%. Senator Kennedy says "are you sure of that?" and the secretary doubles down.

The mortality rate for seasonal flu is closer to 0.1%:

No doubt that is your view. After all, as you say, "the USA can't handle such a outbreak"

"which might attract speculators who buy when the market is low. A trend that would "look good" to buy and sell speculators"

Of course it's a huge opportunity,

No I envision your lawn might look like that covered in Trump love, seems your comprehension skills are slipping again, next time I will be clearer so you can more easily catch the hidden meaning.
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Dude, you really have a misconception based on silly. Go have fun and stop envisioning my lawn. Wtf is the matter with you?
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Dude, you really have a misconception based on silly. Go have fun and stop envisioning my lawn. Wtf is the matter with you?
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The difference between me and you is I poke fun and you are just mean/nasty and always bordering on inappropriate.

The difference between me and you is I poke fun and you are just mean/nasty and always bordering on inappropriate.

Thanks for pointing out the difference...now stfu.
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Thanks for pointing out the difference...now stfu.
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You are aware there are medical and cosmetic procedures which can address you waking up every day with so much hair across your arse.

You are aware there are medical and cosmetic procedures which can address you waking up every day with so much hair across your arse.

Peg can pull it out with her teeth.
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Peg can pull it out with her teeth.
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My god you are such an easy target, I love to bring to light the stark difference of good hearted fun and the dark side of the board and you easily display it like Pavlov’s trained dog.

Another gotcha
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The difference between me and you is I poke fun and you are just mean/nasty and always bordering on inappropriate.

when have you ever written anything amusing? :huh:

when have you ever written anything amusing? :huh:

He basically just called me The Dark Side...

Kinda funny?

Meanwhile, I bring laughter on a consistent basis.
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There's always a tweet

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Obama just appointed an Ebola Czar with zero experience in the medical area and zero experience in infectious disease control. A TOTAL JOKE!
6:20 PM · Oct 17, 2014·

Mike Pence is not a doctor.

Mike Pence is also not a scientist.

Mike Pence—the guy Trump just put in charge of managing a serious public health crisis—wrote an op-ed in 2000 in which he claimed that the notion that smoking kills people was just “hysteria from the political class and the media.”

"I don't view Mike as a czar," Trump says of Pence.

And he's not because the narcissist in chief is the “czar” for any topic, any crisis because he knows more than anybody else, even scientists, generals and other experts!

And narcissists shall not have any other czars before them, loving gazes from pets are ok though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLWyj8pJ8V0

That press conference was disturbing.
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He is clearly the greatest president of our lifetime.
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This is what happens when you put a megalomaniacal serial liar reality TV star in the White House. Eventually a real crisis comes along. One that requires steady leadership & honesty at the top & the ability to fully harness the resources of the US government. We have none of that.

America's large number of uninsured, together w/ heavy Trump-era negative incentives for undocumented & legal immigrants to use available healthcare services (public charge rule, deportation, etc) will make it virtually impossible to contain coronavirus spread in this country.

Then the tweet will come: It is all Pence's fault. He was only in my administration a short while and I did not know him well.

Then it will end with CDC Director Jared Kushner frantically Googling "caronnavirus?" as a pandemic sweeps across the country.

What are you talking about, Trump said we would be down just just two cases in the next couple days and I heard him say this week the stock market looked good; he wouldn’t lie to the American people it’s just not in his nature.

The Stable Genius is now fully embracing the conspiracy theory that his assorted enemies are deliberately hyping the coronavirus threat, all to damage him politically. At his Wednesday news conference, He agreed with Rush Limbaugh’s suggestion that his foes are “weaponizing” the outbreak against him.

So we may be seeing, for the first time, how our ignorant, incompetent, narcissistic psychopath of a president deals with a real crisis not of his own making.

Approximately 76.9 million people visited the United States in 2017, the most recent year reported.

Checking the body temperatures of air transportation passengers landing in the USA is next to useless. The incubation period can be between 3 and 14 days before passengers carrying the virus bacteria begin to show any signs of illness and higher than normal temperatures.

The virus bacteria is NOT ONLY spread by breathing, sneezing and coughing. It is also spread by simple touching the same items a person carrying the bacteria has touched.
A single virus bacteria carrier on a aircraft can contaminate everything he touches inside the cabin. The virus is a Living Bacteria Organism and it can survive and live upon surfaces touched by a carrier for up to 72 hours. You can touch the handle bar on a shopping cart and get it if another person who used that shopping cart had it.

"Once you have the infection, it could remain dormant and with minimal symptoms, and then you can get an exacerbation if it finds its way into the lungs," said Philip Tierno Jr, Professor of Microbiology and Pathology at NYU School of Medicine.

He said much remains unknown about the virus. "I'm not certain that this is not bi-phasic, like anthrax," he said, meaning the disease appears to go away before recurring.

PS: Quarantines will NOT help very much. What we do not yet know is ___ If you contacted the virus today and if you recovered next week __ are you still carrying and spreading the virus bacteria after you recovered from having it???

The Stable Genius is now fully embracing the conspiracy theory that his assorted enemies are deliberately hyping the coronavirus threat, all to damage him politically.
If it's a political deep state conspiracy we have nothing to fear, resume the flights from China, stop the hand washing, shake hands with strangers, short stock in Pfizer :smokin:

Trump didn't even know the flu killed a lot of people every year so it can't be that bad. Pence has a poor track record with disease control so he's perfect to lead the non-response necessary.

Oh, and a note to the so called experts who spoke at Trump's presser, you're about 1000 points from all getting fired. Might as well resign now.

How long until we see the first big story about the president and other political officials pressuring the CDC behind the scenes to downplay warnings about the Coronavirus?

Stable Genius said that “Mike is going to be in charge, and Mike will report back to me.” Mr. Pence said it will be Dr. Birx. Meanwhile, Alex M. Azar II, the health and human services secretary, remains the chairman of the government’s coronavirus task force.

Lucky that this White House has soberly cultivated exactly the reputation for truthfulness, probity, and scientific acumen that will allow it to calm us in these troubled times.
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when the POTUS and his allies have made it their mission to discredit science the media and the Government. the have created that no information is truthful not even their own spin on the situation.. because 1/2 off the country doesn't trust Trump and the other half only trust Trump ..

CA Gov. Newsom: California currently monitoring 8,400 people for suspected coronavirus
Obviously a plot
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CA Gov. Newsom: California currently monitoring 8,400 people for suspected coronavirus
Obviously a plot
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The coronavirus outbreak has reached a "decisive point" and has "pandemic potential", World Health Organization head Dr Tedros Ghebreyesus says

WHO is in on it as well ...PS its in Ireland

it affecting the world not in deaths (thats never been the driving concern) but the way it has been so prolific spreading world wide and its disruption of supply chains and the global economy..


Just imagine having a job a mortgage car payment and you get this virus or someone you know gets it .. Bam your out of work 14 days if your lucky.. if not you get sick who knows for how long ...

who pays your bills who pays your medical bills ,, where do you go when all Hospitals get tapped out . (if it gets that bad )

Expect the best, plan for the worst, and prepare to be surprised.

Trump just expects the Best and it ends there

Pence, who prays for End Times and the Rapture is in charge of a global pandemic.

But don't worry, the preacher has a cure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAHqO736cXc

It was only a matter of time before the mob would blame corona on Trump.

This is snowflake brilliance from the predominant alliance.
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It was only a matter of time before the mob would blame corona on Trump.

This is snowflake brilliance from the predominant alliance.
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I worry about your comprehension, hope this isn’t early signs of things to come, because I don’t think anyone blames Trump for anything; other than suggesting we have nothing to worry about or that he has egg on his face for cutting the department and people we will need to address this as it expands.

I worry about your comprehension

I don’t think anyone blames Trump for anything



:confused:

:confused:

Like I said nobody here is blaming Trump for this virus, but he is so concerned about his re-election, he misleads the public and contradicts his own experts standing beside him. He says it’s not inevitable and they say and know it is. He claims there are only 15 cases and they know the number is closer to 60. He claims the market is reacting to the democratic debate and not the global impact this pandemic is having. Best least educated president of our lifetime!

He claims the market is reacting to the democratic debate and not the global impact this pandemic is having. !

Thats beyond idiotic of him to say. The market is reacting favorably to the chit show on the left, the market knows there's little chance they will win. The last three days are obviously because of the virus, this is him at his worst.

He clearly is the greatest president of our lifetime
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He clearly is the greatest president of our lifetime
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probably want to wait till his second term is over...but...so far so good...despite the leftist poodles and media constantly nipping at his ankles

early on in the epidemic, trump refused to allow anyone from certain regions in china to enter the us. some people called him a bigot for doing that.

the guy can’t win.
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While the market falls, the mob closes in. Certainly, this has Trump’s fingerprints all over it.
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early on in the epidemic, trump refused to allow anyone from certain regions in china to enter the us. some people called him a bigot for doing that.

the guy can’t win.
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Quit watching Tucker.
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Let's not forget the greatest president of our lifetime just proposed a budget that lowers the CDC budget by 700 million.
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Let’s not forget to consider a flu shot.
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I am sure VP Pence with his love of science will suggest that shortly.
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Top 8 Largest Dow Jones Drops in American History.

1) Trump: -1,191 2/27/20
2) Trump: -1,175 2/5/18
3) Trump: -1,032 2/8/18
4) Trump: -1,031 2/24/20
5) Trump: -879 2/25/20
6) Trump: -831 10/10/18
7) Trump: -800 8/14/19
8) Trump: -799 12/4/18

WINNING.
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Quit watching Tucker.
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didn’t watch tv last night, did tucker mention this? because its true, he was called a xenophobe and bigot.
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early on in the epidemic, trump refused to allow anyone from certain regions in china to enter the us. some people called him a bigot for doing that.

the guy can’t win.
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They handled it so poorly a whistle blower felt compelled to expose the bad practices used, which put healthy people at risk, but pray for that Trump miracle because that’s what will be needed to avoid the inevitable.

60 confirmed cases in the US out of a population of over 325,000,000. Even in comparison to the percentage of Native American blood coursing through Liz Warrens veins, that is minuscule.

How about relaxing and take a breath
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Yes, the Dems. should act like how the Repubs. treated Obama during the Ebola outbreak.

Top 8 Largest Dow Jones Drops in American History.

1) Trump: -1,191 2/27/20
2) Trump: -1,175 2/5/18
3) Trump: -1,032 2/8/18
4) Trump: -1,031 2/24/20
5) Trump: -879 2/25/20
6) Trump: -831 10/10/18
7) Trump: -800 8/14/19
8) Trump: -799 12/4/18

WINNING.
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I suspect today might be putting that number one spot in jeopardy. Consumers not spending, travel taking a hit, manufacturing down and this will add to it, orange man is most likely freaking out and looking for that next conspiracy theory to blame this all on.

The market has been looking for a reason to drop for a few years and while the virus might have been the trigger, there have been a number of other negative indicators that were largely ignored by the news cycle because it was full of Twittler's baloney.

If you think Wall Street is saying it will be ok we have The Chosen One, Kudlow, Ross and Mnuchin on top of it, I've got a bridge for you.

Between the endless baloney, Agolf's propping of the market and his disruption of worldwide trade with his easy tariff wars we are getting what was coming sooner or later and the tools to work on it have been expended.

I await with bated breath what the Stable Genius will do to get himself reelected, we know what he thought other presidents could or should do to get that done.

The stable genius can rest comfortably knowing that all he needs to do in order to be re-elected is watch the opponents sabotage themselves. Easy
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Thanks for sharing this important opinion Chris.

Maybe if we all cover our ears and eyes it will magically disappear one day.

"White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney on Friday suggested that Americans should ignore media reports about the coronavirus amid fears of the deadly disease spreading into the U.S."

yawn. it’s a huge buying opportunity. and the severity of a drop is quantified as a percentage, not the number of points. and what matters is overall market performance, not the 5 worst days. you’re
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We are all set, the Stable Genius says so and he's sane.

You just have to listen to what he says, so here it is..........

This will end. This will end. You look at flu season. I said 26,000 people. I never heard of a number like that: 26,000 people, going up to 69,000 people, doctor, you told me before. 69,000 people die every year — from 20 to 69 — every year from the flu. Think of that. That’s incredible. So far, the results of all of this that everybody is reading about — and part of the thing is, you want to keep it the way it is, you don’t want to see panic, because there’s no reason to be panicked about it — but when I mentioned the flu, I asked the various doctors, “Is this just like flu?” Because people die from the flu. And this is very unusual. And it is a little bit different, but in some ways it’s easier and in some ways it’s a little bit tougher, but we have it so well under control, I mean, we really have done a very good job.

I don’t think it’s inevitable. It probably will. It possibly will. It could be at a very small level or it could be at a larger level. Whatever happens, we’re totally prepared. We have the best people in the world. You see that from the study. We have the best prepared people, the best people in the world. Congress is willing to give us much more than we’re even asking for. That’s nice for a change. But we are totally ready, willing, and able to — it’s a term that we use, it’s “ready, willing, and able.” It’s going to be very well under control. Now, it may get bigger. It may get a little bigger. It may not get bigger at all. We’ll see what happens. But regardless of what happens, we’re totally prepared.

On the markets

I think the financial markets are very upset when they look at the Democrat candidates standing on that stage make fools out of themselves, and they say, “If we ever have a president like this” — and there’s always a possibility, it’s an election, you know, who knows what happens? I think we’re going to win, I think we’re going to win by a lot — but when they look at statements made by the people standing behind those podiums, I think that has a huge effect.

Reporter: You don’t you think it had to do with the coronavirus?

Well, I think it did, I think it did, but I think you can add quite a bit of selloff to what they’re seeing. Because they’re seeing the potential – you know, again, I think we’re going to win. I feel very confident of it. We’ve done everything – and much more — than I said we were going to do. You look at what we’ve done. What we’ve done is incredible, with the tax cuts and regulation cuts, and rebuilding our military, taking care of our vets and getting them choice and accountability. All of the things we’ve done. Protecting our Second Amendment. I mean, they view that, the Second Amendment, they’re going to destroy the Second Amendment. When people look at that, they say “this is not good.” So you add that in. I really believe that’s a factor. But, no, what we’re talking about is the virus. That’s what we’re talking about. I do believe that’s — I do believe in terms of CNBC and in terms of Fox Business, I do believe that’s a factor, yeah. And I think after I win the election, I think the stock market is going to boom like it’s never boomed before. Just like the last time I won the election. The day after the stock market went up like a rocket ship.

On gutting the CDC

We can get money. And we can increase staff. We know all the good people. There’s a question I asked the doctors before. Some of the people we cut, they haven’t been used for many, many years. If we ever need them we can get them very quickly. And rather than spending the money — and I’m a business person — I don’t like having thousands of people around when you don’t need them. When we need them, we can get them back very quickly. For instance, we’re bringing some people in tomorrow that are already in this great government that we have, and very specifically for this. We can build up very, very quickly, and we’ve already done that. I mean, we have a great staff, and using Mike, I’m doing that because he’s in the administration, and he’s very good at doing what he does and doing as it relates to this.

On staying healthy

View this the same as the flu. When somebody sneezes, I mean, I try and bail out as much as possible when there’s sneezing. I had a man come up to me a week ago, I hadn’t seen him in a long time, and I said, “How you doing?” He said, “Fine, fine,” he hugged me, kissed me. I said, “Are you well?” He says “No.” He said, “I have the worst fever and the worst flu.” And he’s hugging and kissing me. So I said, excuse me, I went out and started washing my hands. So you have to do that. I really think, doctor, you want to treat this like you treat the flu, right?

if tiger woods shoots a 15 on a par 3 but still has the lowest overall score for the 4 rounds of the masters, does he get the green jacket or not?

judging the economy not by overall performance, but by ranking the highest point drops on the worst days...I’ve actually never heard anyone even try that tactic before. TDS has boldly taken us where no one has gone before.
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They need something Jim. Let them have it.
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if tiger woods shoots a 15 on a par 3 but still has the lowest overall score for the 4 rounds of the masters, does he get the green jacket or not?

judging the economy not by overall performance, but by ranking the highest point drops on the worst days...I’ve actually never heard anyone even try that tactic before. TDS has boldly taken us where no one has gone before.
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Trump is more like Charles Barkley if we are using a golf analogy

yawn. it’s a huge buying opportunity. and the severity of a drop is quantified as a percentage, not the number of points. and what matters is overall market performance, not the 5 worst days. you’re
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Just the other day you’re a judicial expert and today you’re Jim Kramer :rotfl:
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Trump is more like Charles Barkley if we are using a golf analogy

your logic was pathetic GS, come
on. i hated obama personally, but he got the economy back on track. Trump took it to places no one envisioned. You can desperately deny that all you want, but That’s what happened.

Drops are buying opportunities, for the majority of people
who put money in from each paycheck. Drops are a good thing.
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They need something Jim. Let them have it.
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i know, but even for those with TDS, that was funny.
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Just the other day you’re a judicial expert and today you’re Jim Kramer :rotfl:
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you don’t have to be an expert to know how wrong she was, you just need to be a tiny bit honest.

you tell me, spence. for the average guy who puts a few bucks into his 401k every two weeks for 40 years, are these dips a good thing or a bad thing? if you don’t need the money for several years, are these dips a good thing or a bad thing?

Answer - they are a good thing. Dollar cost averaging, which is how middle class people get into the stock market, delivers a better end result with dips, then it would with a straight-line upward path to the same endpoint.

Buy low, sell high. Is that going too fast for you?

i moved every cent of cash i don’t need, into equities today. it will
eventually work out great, especially if trump gets re elected.

You tell me where my math is off. i’m all ears. Please, tell me where i’m wrong. Be very specific, just this once, no baseless insults. Where is my logic off?

Can’t wait to see your response.
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you don’t have to be an expert to know how wrong she was, you just need to be a tiny bit honest.

you tell me, spence. for the average guy who puts a few bucks into his 401k every two weeks for 40 years, are these dips a good thing or a bad thing? if you don’t need the money for several years, are these dips a good thing or a bad thing?

Answer - they are a good thing. Dollar cost averaging, which is how middle class people get into the stock market, delivers a better end result with dips, then it would with a straight-line upward path to the same endpoint.

Buy low, sell high. Is that going too fast for you?

i moved every cent of cash i don’t need, into equities today. it will
eventually work out great, especially if trump gets re elected.

You tell me where my math is off. i’m all ears. Please, tell me where i’m wrong. Be very specific, just this once, no baseless insults. Where is my logic off?

Can’t wait to see your response.
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But if you planned on retiring this year and you rode the Trump wave , and kept everything in hi risk , your ass is bleeding .. I am all in bonds happy with 5% return
And I still took a 1500 hit ... and another 3k I owe the Government so much for the tax break

But if you planned on retiring this year and you rode the Trump wave , and kept everything in hi risk , your ass is bleeding .. I am all in bonds happy with 5% return
And I still took a 1500 hit ... and another 3k I owe the Government so much for the tax break

if you need the money this year and its in stocks, you took a hit because you were stupid. but you still
have a lot more cash than you had on his first day.

if you’re retiring this year and things are so tight that a 10 percent drop screws you, then obviously you don’t keep that money in stocks.

if you’re a few years out, and still contributing, these dips are a godsend. that is a mathematical fact, and no degree of Trump hatred can refute it.
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. and another 3k I owe the Government so much for the tax break

so it’s trumps fault that you choose to underpay throughout the year. Who filled out your W-4, you or Trump?

you don’t want to owe 3k, there’s an easy fix for that, pay 3k more during the year. you need someone to tell you that?
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And I still took a 1500 hit ... and another 3k I owe the Government so much for the tax break



think of it as an "investment"

think of it as an "investment"

and if the person he votes for wins, he’s going to invest a lot more than that.

WDMSO, if you are motivated by not paying any more federal income tax than you have to, you might want to re-think some things. especially if it’s trump vs bernie.

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so it’s trumps fault that you choose to underpay throughout the year. Who filled out your W-4, you or Trump?

you don’t want to owe 3k, there’s an easy fix for that, pay 3k more during the year. you need someone to tell you that?
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That's funny

I had the same withholding past 10 years, only under Trump have I owed so much ... while getting a tax cut?


Ps if deferred compensation retirement plan( mutual fund) and 401ks are base on the market as well clearly one has more risk than the other. But if your only looking at the 401k side of the house as you seem to do. You missing slot

Equity markets lost 3 trillion. And the s&p lost 3.5 trillion. This hits the avg Joe who just saw their gains from the last 5 to 6 years wiped clean in 2 days and their not day trading or own individual stocks owners. ,

Then you have Mulvaney's comments at Cpak coronavirus is a Hoax ,,,, I am sure that hasn't settled investors fears . Seeing there looking globally, not just domestically

Then you have Mulvaney's comments at Cpak coronavirus is a Hoax ,,,,



try being honest...he said it's the latest democrat "hoax"...their latest effort to politicize an issue, whip up anger toward trump to attack him and hurt him politically...coronavirus is obviously real but just as with collusion and kavanaugh and nathan phillips and on and on, democraps won't miss an opportunity to scream feigned outrage for political leverage....you guys do it here every day pretty much hourly:btu:...."never let a good crisis go to waste"

avgJoe who just saw their gains from the last 5 to 6 years wiped clean in 2 days ly

this is a joke, right? look it up, the dow is way, way up over the last 5-6 years. how much do you think the markets went down in the last two days, exactly? or even the last week? the market as of today, has done well for the past few years.

you just make it up as you go along?

on 1/1/17, the DJIA was at 19,865. at the close yesterday, it was over 25,400. that’s getting “wiped out” to you? what are you talking about?
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try being honest...he said it's the latest democrat "hoax"...their latest effort to politicize an issue, whip up anger toward trump to attack him and hurt him politically...coronavirus is obviously real but just as with collusion and kavanaugh and nathan phillips and on and on, democraps won't miss an opportunity to scream feigned outrage for political leverage....you guys do it here every day pretty much hourly:btu:...."never let a good crisis go to waste"

Consider who is using the term hoax and then the context, it’s completely inappropriate for the president to make this political. Look at how he continues to downplay the number of cases and the seriousness of the threat, even yesterday at a rally he claims there are only 15 cases and suggests spring right around the corner will magically make this go away. Every statement he makes is geared towards getting re-elected and under the circumstances its wrong, but it’s just Trump being Trump, always his interests come first.

it’s completely inappropriate for the president to make this political. .

is it equally inappropriate for democrats to politicize it? i agree it’s disgusting when trump does it, just wondering how you feel about democrats doing it.
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Consider who is using the term hoax and then the context, it’s completely inappropriate for the president to make this political. Look at how he continues to downplay the number of cases and the seriousness of the threat, even yesterday at a rally he claims there are only 15 cases and suggests spring right around the corner will magically make this go away. Every statement he makes is geared towards getting re-elected and under the circumstances its wrong, but it’s just Trump being Trump, always his interests come first.

this is an extremely warped view.....

is it equally inappropriate for democrats to politicize it? i agree it’s disgusting when trump does it, just wondering how you feel about democrats doing it.
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Big difference between Democrats complaining about cuts to the departments we now need most and the president, his messaging during this should be clear, truthful and devoid of politics. He contradicts his own scientific experts and that mixed message is not right.

Trumps statements at his latest rally demonstrate an extremely warped view.....

Fixed

Big difference between Democrats complaining about cuts to the departments we now need most and the president, his messaging during this should be clear, truthful and devoid of politics. He contradicts his own scientific experts and that mixed message is not right.
he was called a bigot for banning travel from china. and if what was cut at CDC was waste,who cares.
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he was called a bigot for banning travel from china. and if what was cut at CDC was waste,who cares.
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Who called him a bigot? As for the CDC do some homework Jim.
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Who called him a bigot? As for the CDC do some homework Jim.
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spence, i’ll tell you what. when
you answer my question ( are dips
in the stock market good
for the large number of people
who put money in every two weeks and who dont need that money soon), i’ll
answer your questions.

if the CDC laid off doctors in the “ prevent and treat large scale viruses” department, that’s bad. if the cuts mean that CDC employees have to fly to conferences in coach class instead of first class, that’s something else. i don’t know what was cut, and I’m willing to bet you don’t either, but that does t stop
you from concluding that the cuts put our lives in danger.
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It was only a matter of time before the mob would blame corona on Trump.

This is snowflake brilliance from the predominant alliance.
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No one blames Trump for the coronavirus that's a scummy lie
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spence, i’ll tell you what. when
you answer my question ( are dips
in the stock market good
for the large number of people
who put money in every two weeks and who dont need that money soon), i’ll
answer your questions.

if the CDC laid off doctors in the “ prevent and treat large scale viruses” department, that’s bad. if the cuts mean that CDC employees have to fly to conferences in coach class instead of first class, that’s something else. i don’t know what was cut, and I’m willing to bet you don’t either, but that does t stop
you from concluding that the cuts put our lives in danger.
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Spence suggested doing homework on Trump cutting CDC budget. I am not a fan of the so-called fact checkers, but . . . Snopes doesn't seem to agree with Spence. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-cut-cdc-budget/

Spence suggested doing homework on Trump cutting CDC budget. I am not a fan of the so-called fact checkers, but . . . Snopes doesn't seem to agree with Spence. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-cut-cdc-budget/
They’re talking about the 2021 budget, not critical personnel leaving and cuts to especially international aid intended to fight pandemics.
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They’re talking about the 2021 budget, not critical personnel leaving and cuts to especially international aid intended to fight pandemics.
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Didn't Congress just authorize a bunch of money, more than Trump requested?

Curious, did China actually coordinate with the CDC before the coronavirus? It has refused help from CDC since the outbreak was revealed. China acts as if it alone will handle its health problem, without our "interference."

Top 8 Largest Dow Jones Drops in American History.

1) Trump: -1,191 2/27/20
2) Trump: -1,175 2/5/18
3) Trump: -1,032 2/8/18
4) Trump: -1,031 2/24/20
5) Trump: -879 2/25/20
6) Trump: -831 10/10/18
7) Trump: -800 8/14/19
8) Trump: -799 12/4/18

WINNING.
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Up almost 1300 today....
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And if the gains hold it will be a first, even without the coming daily increases in corona virus diagnosis’s and deaths.
Don’t worry just go out to eat and support the economy, the twenty something working for a little over minimum wage with no health insurance just bought some OTC flu cure and came to work. He couldn’t afford the $3K to get tested without insurance anyways.
It probably won’t kill him or maybe you but plenty of saintly mothers will die.
Nothing to worry about
Probably save Social Security a lot of money
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Just spoke to a friend who picked his daughter up after she returned from Milan Saturday. Said there was no one to meet them at the airport and check their temp. or do anything. He said people were just walking off the plane, grabbing their luggage and getting taxis into Manhattan. He and his daughter are going to self quarantine for 2 weeks. Said he called up the state department to find out if he should self quarantine and they said they are prohibited from saying anything because no directive has come down from above.
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The stable genius can rest comfortably knowing that all he needs to do in order to be re-elected is watch the opponents sabotage themselves. Easy
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This is precisely the problem, Trump stares down a pandemic and he’s more concerned with public relations than public health...
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Fortunately, the daughter will likely live.
Scary situations coming up for many in the coming weeks. My youngest had a school trip planned to China that was called off weeks ago. The Chinese say they feel like they have turned a corner of sorts but there is a lot of uncertainty. My wife was in China in December and her younger brother was there in January. Planes are about to become Petri dishes.
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This is precisely the problem, Trump stares down a pandemic and he’s more concerned with public relations than public health...
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I know Jeff, Trumps fault. Move along little boy. Surely you have biscuits to bake.
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And if the gains hold it will be a first, even without the coming daily increases in corona virus diagnosis’s and deaths.
Don’t worry just go out to eat and support the economy, the twenty something working for a little over minimum wage with no health insurance just bought some OTC flu cure and came to work. He couldn’t afford the $3K to get tested without insurance anyways.
It probably won’t kill him or maybe you but plenty of saintly mothers will die.
Nothing to worry about
Probably save Social Security a lot of money
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Does that guilt trip work on your kids, because it certainly doesn't work on me...

What was that saying from Scrooge, something about decreasing the surplus population.
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I don’t care if you are motivated by guilt but thinking we don’t have a problem because we have low numbers is incorrect.
Italy's numbers are high in great part because the Italians are doing a good job testing their people fast, accurately, and for free.

America's numbers seem low not because US is exempt, but because US is testing late, slow, and expensive
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I don’t care if you are motivated by guilt but thinking we don’t have a problem because we have low numbers is incorrect.
Italy's numbers are high in great part because the Italians are doing a good job testing their people fast, accurately, and for free.

America's numbers seem low not because US is exempt, but because US is testing late, slow, and expensively
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Hey Bitchslappedboy, the only one saying we have no problem is you. Now you decide Italy is doing a great job despite having a widespread caseload of the virus. Thanks for proving what many here suspect.
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Hey Bitchslappedboy, the only one saying we have no problem is you. Now you decide Italy is doing a great job despite having a widespread caseload of the virus. Thanks for proving what many here suspect.
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Dingleberry You're not a critical thinker, are you?
Italy is doing a great job of testing.
We are not and have no clue of what the actual caseload is.

Here's what happens if you are in the Seattle area, of course it is purely anecdotal and based on one person's experience.

I live in Seattle, I have all symptoms of COVID-19 and have a history of chronic bronchitis.

Since I work in a physical therapy clinic with many 65+ patients and those with chronic illnesses, I decided to be responsible and go to get tested. This is how that went.

I called the Corona hotline, was on hold for 40 minutes and gave up.

So I looked at the CDC and Washington public health websites. They told me to see a primary care doctor, but there's no information about testing.

I called 2 primary care doctors. One told me they don't know where to get testing, and that I should not to seek out testing. The other one told me to go to an urgent care or ER.

I called the Urgent Care, they also had no idea where tests are, but told me to call the hospital.

I called the hospital. They do not have tests, but transferred me to the COVID-19 hotline to "answer my questions". Since I was transferred on a medical provider line, I actually got through. Progress!

The lady with the hotline was very kind and professional and understood my concern about my own health and those at my clinic. (Which is currently being sanitized). However, I was told I do not qualify for testing. And I was not given a timeline or info on current resources.

So. Who does qualify? Those who have been out of the country in the last 14 days, and those who have had contact with one of the few people who have been tested and come up positive. That's it.

The only way I can get treated is if my symptoms get so bad I develop pneumonia or bronchitis, which is very likely in my case. Then I'll be in the ER and quarantined for several days while waiting for a test and for the results to come back.

This is all incredibly frustrating because I am trying to do everything right in a system that punishes moments of "weakness" like taking days off.

It's also scary to know that I won't be able to get help until I need life support.

To sum up: this is not contained. No one knows what the #^&#^&#^&#^& is happening. I can't work. WASH YOUR #^&#^&#^&#^&ING HANDS.

And remember how the Administration solved it.

Patient: "So, it looks like I have coronavirus now. What should I do?"

Doctor: "Don't worry about it. The federal reserve cut rates by 50 basis points. You'll be fine."

*Yawn

Up almost 1300 today....
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You had to say something.... :)

59 million and burdened with widespread virus
327 million and still isolated cases
Some people are a special stupid.
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Seem Trump has no influence when the market tanked his most rabid defenders never once mentioned it ..



But now it went back up 1000 points out come the cheerleaders

:faga: when it comes to Trump

You had to say something.... :)

You’d think I’d learn :hee:
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Seem Trump has no influence when the market tanked his most rabid defenders never once mentioned it ..



But now it went back up 1000 points out come the cheerleaders

:faga: when it comes to Trump

Your logic is ass backwards, as usual :rolleyes:
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9 deaths in Washington

Washington has 27 cases confirmed

WHO says death rate from Coronavirus is 3.4%

There could easily be over 250 undiagnosed people in Washington today and the dispersal is geometric.

Community spread is not fake news.

2 diagnosed cases each in Mass and Rhody to date.

Singapore has about the only program that seems to contain it, but I doubt that it could or would work here for a number of reasons. But they are capable of explaining what Coronavirus is and what you can do about it for your own and the people you care about's safety and that is what their health minister does quite well in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgc_K2x-GKA&t=26s

the man that is going to save the democraps from commie be-rine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc21Dem5Fac

Dow Plunges Nearly 800 Points, Despite Fed Rescue Attempt:faga:

Dow Plunges Nearly 800 Points, Despite Fed Rescue Attempt:faga:

So now you employ the same tactic that you just demonized.

Pay your therapist time and 1/2.
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9 deaths in Washington

Washington has 27 cases confirmed

WHO says death rate from Coronavirus is 3.4%

There could easily be over 250 undiagnosed people in Washington today and the dispersal is geometric.

Community spread is not fake news.

2 diagnosed cases each in Mass and Rhody to date.

Singapore has about the only program that seems to contain it, but I doubt that it could or would work here for a number of reasons. But they are capable of explaining what Coronavirus is and what you can do about it for your own and the people you care about's safety and that is what their health minister does quite well in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgc_K2x-GKA&t=26s
Bitchslappedboy,have you already determined that if and when the US
is dealt a heavy hand of corona that it is the fault of Trump? We all know it is bad and extremely contagious as well as deadly. The United States is the 3rd most visited county in the world. Italy,number 5. Take a look around, perhaps Spain has maple syrup.
P.S. don’t spout off about “Italian health care” being the standard for the world,or even the US when you obviously have no clue. See how long it takes the ambulance to get you after getting run over in Rome...pack a lunch.
You are not as intelligent as I thought. More like the rantings of a madman.
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I just wish the market would stay up, it’s the one thing that makes it all feel bearable...
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So now you employ the same tactic that you just demonized.

Pay your therapist time and 1/2.
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well, naturally he believes in the tactic when it makes trump look bad.
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Bitchslappedboy,have you already determined that if and when the US
is dealt a heavy hand of corona that it is the fault of Trump? We all know it is bad and extremely contagious as well as deadly. The United States is the 3rd most visited county in the world. Italy,number 5. Take a look around, perhaps Spain has maple syrup.
P.S. don’t spout off about “Italian health care” being the standard for the world,or even the US when you obviously have no clue. See how long it takes the ambulance to get you after getting run over in Rome...pack a lunch.
You are not as intelligent as I thought. More like the rantings of a madman.
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Dingleberry
Don’t worry your man is on top of it, or is he? Just wait for him to throw Pence under the bus when the Coronavirus numbers start climbing.
The surest way to not get results is don’t test
Meanwhile the clown is busy being a vengeful victim

This is what happens to someone who loyally gets appointed Attorney General of the United States & then doesn’t have the wisdom or courage to stare down & end the phony Russia Witch Hunt. Recuses himself on FIRST DAY in office, and the Mueller Scam begins!
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Pointless gibberish from a liberal fool.🙄
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So now you employ the same tactic that you just demonized.

Pay your therapist time and 1/2.
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Sorry you see facts as as some tactic that I demonized ... not sure how


Trumps the head cheerleader wanted the rate cut to prop up the market , they didn't bite

Seems Bidens super Tuesday win has given the market a bump:cheers:

Sorry you see facts as as some tactic that I demonized ... not sure how


Trumps the head cheerleader wanted the rate cut to prop up the market , they didn't bite

Seems Bidens super Tuesday win has given the market a bump:cheers:

Get behind Berine and make a difference.
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PsychoBozo blames his administration's failure to conduct testing for the coronavirus (less than 500 tests as of last Friday) on OBAMA.

I knew it - eventually he'd blame Obama! Just wait, tomorrow he'll be calling it the Obamavirus.

PsychoBozo eliminated the pandemic response team, including the top-level NSC member. He did nothing about this for the months that Coronavirus was developing in China and then tried to deny it was a problem.

He's talking about the decision that LDT assays (Lab Developed Tests) developed by CLIA-approved labs (Quest diagnostics, Labcorp - but ALSO Elizabeth Holmes scamlab till caught) should be under the oversight of the FDA.
The FDA DID make mistakes demanding no SARS false positive, but that is NOT because it's a "mistake" to have FDA review LDTs.

That's exactly how we ensure no one is scammed by a place like THeranos again.

She used the LDTs as a way to use equipment that never went through FDA review because it wasn't marketed for sale just used for testing.

And if you eliminate the managing apparatus that looks at possibilities and solutions you end up where we are.

PsychoBozo blames his administration's failure to conduct testing for the coronavirus (less than 500 tests as of last Friday) on OBAMA.

I knew it - eventually he'd blame Obama! Just wait, tomorrow he'll be calling it the Obamavirus.

PsychoBozo eliminated the pandemic response team, including the top-level NSC member. He did nothing about this for the months that Coronavirus was developing in China and then tried to deny it was a problem.

He's talking about the decision that LDT assays (Lab Developed Tests) developed by CLIA-approved labs (Quest diagnostics, Labcorp - but ALSO Elizabeth Holmes scamlab till caught) should be under the oversight of the FDA.
The FDA DID make mistakes demanding no SARS false positive, but that is NOT because it's a "mistake" to have FDA review LDTs.

That's exactly how we ensure no one is scammed by a place like THeranos again.

She used the LDTs as a way to use equipment that never went through FDA review because it wasn't marketed for sale just used for testing.

And if you eliminate the managing apparatus that looks at possibilities and solutions you end up where we are.

This cry for help should make the front page.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PYtJ1gCvj8

With the coronavirus killing thousands and threatening to tank the global economy, I feel like more people should be talking about the fact that Trump fired the entire pandemic response team two years ago and then didn't replace them.
Trump also cut funding for the CDC, forcing the CDC to cancel its efforts to help countries prevent infectious-disease threats from becoming epidemics in 39 of 49 countries in 2018.
Among the countries abandoned? China.
This isn't just about accountability. It's about drawing attention to the structural problems in the US response effort before things get worse.
And it’s not limited to diseases, the increased structural problems carry through all national security operations.
But he’s saving you money, just what is 3% of the DOW, never mind the danger to Americans here and abroad worth.

Fools

oh good...pete is responding to his own nonsense again

It was Trump*’s view that it was nonsense, would just go away one day and failure to act that got us to the place we are.
Rest easy because while Congress is spending $2 trillion to stimulate the economy and combat Covid-19 the president is at least ensuring that the United States is not on the hook for Harry and Meghan’s security costs. And the sick and the dying will be gratified to know that the president’s TV ratings remain high.
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