Wow can this Guy make up his mind , from one extreme to another blindsided the EU saying the infections here its their fault. , I guess sick people can't leave from England , Americans can come back not sure how seeing what airline is going to fly 300 passenger jet with 10 passengers

So once again Trump muddied the water ever more, lets see if this calms the Markets

Yet over on breightbart on the travel ban, President Trump goes above and beyond to protect the Health and Welfare of the American people.

But the NCAA canceled March madness you get this

Goodness. The media in this country/world is the real disease. Overreaction.

The markets tanking

Never thought the MSM hysteria could bring the World to its knees.
Amazing how propaganda can be so effective.
It's a damn virus. It will pass.

This the Trumps base and the only people he cares about

So NOW you believe in “Fake News” :rolleyes:
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Only a dunce uses an issue like this to divide and politicize. No surprise to see him do anything to push an agenda.
🤡🤒🙀
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/trump-ensuring-worst-possible-outcome-coronavirus-crisis/607867/

This pretty much says it all
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Like calling this the "foreign virus" and blaming the Dems. for lying about the threat for weeks while doing nothing? Empathy and compassion does not come easy for this Pres.

Trump/NCAA/NBA, etc. made a tough call. Dammed if you do, dammed If you don't. Think it is smart to canc. events for the next few weeks to see what we can do to lesson this. I think we lost valuable time w/tests and too bad more aren't ready. Say a prayer for the 1st responders who are putting their lives on the line for our safety. I think the govern. needs to make the test $0 to prevent people w/o insurance from not getting the tests. Not sure about hospital costs. Like the idea of trying to get $ to people w/o sick leave. Don't think the market will stabilize until the virus is contained no matter what the govern. does.

High school sports championships where canc. 2 days ago. Big uproar, blaming the Dems. and media. Now all is good with those mouth breathers.

TRUMPS all over the road and his supporters still find excuses. Its amazing to watch. But their constant in the buzz word dept..
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The mouth breathers are so anxious to blame this global pandemic on Trump. True colors are coming through...

Don’t forget to mention the amount of tests in SouthKorea.🤡
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I'm confused. Are the trump-haters here saying he over-reacted, or under-reacted? Or both? I guess it's both.

Again, first day, he restricted travel from China, and he was called a xenophobe and a dictator for doing so. Can't win.

Why are liberals so upset about saying out loud, that this virus originated in China? That's a sincere question, really. Isn't it true?

Why are liberals so upset about saying out loud, that this virus originated in China? That's a sincere question, really. Isn't it true?

Why call it a foreign virus other than to try to blame it on China? What difference does it make?

I can't recall any other Pres. repeating that.

If a question is asked where the virus started, then saying China is ok.

Why call it a foreign virus other than to try to blame it on China? What difference does it make?

I can't recall any other Pres. repeating that.

If a question is asked where the virus started, then saying China is ok.

we can sometimes learn from facts. admitting it started in China, might prevent scientists from poking around the everglades looking for the cause. assuming that developing vaccines and preventing this from happening again requires some knowledge of what actually happened, then facts are often useful. even when Trump states them. it’s also worth knowing if China blew the way they handled it initially. We are very dependent on them for basic antibiotics and medical equipment, and facts might lead us to conclude that policy changes might be in order. Facts help you acquire knowledge, which helps make public policy decisions.

i don’t see why it matters that you have t seen any former presidents say it started in china. trump is the current president.

without knowing it started there, makes it easier to call him a bigot for banning travel from there, so i guess that’s why liberals don’t like to say facts out loud.

China is at best our fiercest global
competitor, at worst an enemy.
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Everyone with an ounce of sense now knows it started in China.

Meant former Pres. when they were dealing w/other viruses - not this instance. They didn't play the blame game like Trump does.

And to show what a scum bag our current Pres. is he say this.

The Democrat policy of open borders is a direct threat to the health and well-being of all Americans. Now you see it with the coronavirus, you see it.”

I'm confused. Are the trump-haters here saying he over-reacted, or under-reacted? Or both? I guess it's both.

Again, first day, he restricted travel from China, and he was called a xenophobe and a dictator for doing so. Can't win.

Why are liberals so upset about saying out loud, that this virus originated in China? That's a sincere question, really. Isn't it true?

Its not a liberal thing its Chinese Americans regular Americans who are used to Trump's innuendos . Just look at his mexicans comments
CA Gun Sales Surge as Asian Americans Fear Attacks over Corona Virus... shocking they would feel this way

PS Theirs not a person on the planet who dosnt know it started in China. So why would Stephen Miller or Pompeo call it chinese or whuan virus ,?

Why not use the term virus originated in China. Because its about blamining China
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Is the china virus the scientific name? If not, why use it?

And to show what a scum bag our current Pres. is he say this.

The Democrat policy of open borders is a direct threat to the health and well-being of all Americans. Now you see it with the coronavirus, you see it.”

while i agree the liberal support for open borders is causing americans to be killed, it’s asinine to relate that to this. beyond idiotic.

as to other presidents not commenting on their viruses, i don’t care, none of those were taken anywhere near as seriously as this, and what he said happens to be true.

everything he says, must be inappropriate. it just has to be. because orange man bad.
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Is the china virus the scientific name? If not, why use it?

China is telling its citizens that this is our fault. So every time
he corrects that on camera, he’s combatting a lie. this is probably his way of giving them the finger for lying and saying it was us.

so you aren’t embarrassed when biden tells a citizen that he’s a horses azz and full of sh*t, but correctly calling this the china virus is problematic.


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while i agree the liberal support for open borders is causing americans to be killed, it’s asinine to relate that to this. beyond idiotic.

as to other presidents not commenting on their viruses, i don’t care, none of those were taken anywhere near as seriously as this, and what he said happens to be true.

everything he says, must be inappropriate. it just has to be. because orange man bad.
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:laugha:

He was just telling us it would magically go away and it was a Dem. hoax.

China is telling its citizens that this is our fault. So every time
he corrects that on camera, he’s combatting a lie. this is probably his way of giving them the finger for lying and saying it was us.

so you aren’t embarrassed when biden tells a citizen that he’s a horses azz and full of sh*t, but correctly calling this the china virus is problematic.


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Glad you care more about China than the incompetence and lies in this admin.

I'm far less embar. by anything Biden has done (or will do) than by the conservatives who have bent over and held their ankles and sucked up to Trump by accepting his classless behavior and constant lies.

Your hypocrisy is amazing - crying about what Biden said to 1 person while saying nothing about Trump's constant lies and insults. TDS!

how could anyone possibly interpret what i wrote, as caring more about china? is there any way you can respond to what i actually write, instead of portraying me as a perpetually angry Chinese sympathizer? You used to be. lot more interesting and challenging to discuss these things with. Pete is rubbing off on you.

China makes a whole lot of our stuff. And their government told their citizens that it's possible the US military unleashed this virus on china. i believe it’s in america’s best interests to respond to that myth. if you think it’s in our interests to let china accuse us without responding, that’s your right. i happen to disagree.

i don’t think it’s a good idea for chinese companies that make our medicine and medical equipment, to be told we did this to them.

But hey, thats just me. What a whacky notion that you not
let another superpower tell
the world we committed biological warfare when we didn’t.


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Your hypocrisy is amazing - crying about what Biden said to 1 person while saying nothing about Trump's constant lies and insults. TDS!

your lying is amazing. i always hold Trump accountable when he acts like a jerk. How can you possibly deny that with a straight face?
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I see Moscow Mitch and his band of arse kissers blocked the Democrats emergency bill to give workers 14 days of sick leave during this crisis, his desk is were bills go to die.

your lying is amazing. i always hold Trump accountable when he acts like a jerk. How can you possibly deny that with a straight face?
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Bull#^&#^&#^&#^& - you hold him accountable occasionally. That is all. You are all in on his lies and classlessness. That is on you.

He looked like a fool last night. Could hardly read. It was like one long run on sentence with a few gasps. I remember when the mouth breathers here use to make fun on Obama teleprompter.

You used to be. lot more interesting and challenging to discuss these things with. Pete is rubbing off on you.



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Then put me on ignore - no loss to me. I could care less what you think. As I said, I think you are an angry person.

Liberal this, liberal that.

I know your anger went up when you where no longer the one who posted the most here. And you even had the nerve to complain about how much he posted.

And I was just on a call where the question was asked if the major insurance companies were waiving copays for the coronavirus treatments like Trump claimed in his speech. The answer was absolutely not. They agreed to waive co-pays only for coronavirus testing, not treatments.

So he either lied again, was sloppy in writing the speech or can't read what is in front of him.

But hey, Obama once said he visited 57 states.

:laugha:

He was just telling us it would magically go away and it was a Dem. hoax.

As usual PaulS has managed to get this wrong. Trump did say it would eventually go away but never implied or actually used the term magic. This is simply a liberal interpretation. He also never called it a Democratic hoax. This is simply another liberal interpretation that intentionally missed the context of his statement. Nice try 🧁.
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Unfortunately the coronavirus, doesn’t care what it’s called and, like all contagions, will continue to spread regardless of any jingoistic posturing.

But I suppose it is distracting from the facts on the ground in the fight against it.

Crises clarify. The bigger the crisis, the more the clarity, which is why the incompetence, dishonesty, and sheer callousness of the Trump Presidency have been clearer in recent days than ever before.

Trump has spent years devaluing and diminishing facts, experts, institutions, and science—the very things upon which we must rely in a crisis—and his default setting during the coronavirus outbreak has been to deny, delay, deflect, and diminish.

January 22:
Trump: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”

February 2:
Trump: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

February 10:
Trump: “A lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat—as the heat comes in.”

February 24:
Trump: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. . . . Stock Market starting to look very good to me.”

February 27:
Trump: “It’s going to disappear one day, it’s like a miracle.”

February 28:
Eric Trump: “In my opinion, it’s a great time to buy stocks or into your 401k. I would be all in . . . let’s see if I’m right.”

March 2:
Trump on a coronavirus vaccine: “I’ve heard very quick numbers, that of months.” [Note: Immunologist Anthony Fauci, has repeatedly said that a vaccine will not be available for a year or 1 1/2 years]

March 6:
Trump: "Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”

Trump: “I didn’t know people died from the flu.”

Trump on whether or not to bring coronavirus patients on a cruise ship to shore: “I like the numbers being where they are.”

March 10:
Trump: “It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”

March 11:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mii6NydPiqI

As I said, I think you are an angry person.



you are no bundle of joy :deadhorse:

Unfortunately the coronavirus



don't worry pete...you should be fairly safe in your padded cell

I see Moscow Mitch and his band of arse kissers blocked the Democrats emergency bill to give workers 14 days of sick leave during this crisis, his desk is were bills go to die.

why? republicans were in favor
of this idea? is it because the emergency bill didn’t include a cut to payroll tax, which some
republicans want? bullsh*t to block.
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Then put me on ignore - no loss to me. I could care less what you think. As I said, I think you are an angry person.

Liberal this, liberal that.

I know your anger went up when you where no longer the one who posted the most here. And you even had the nerve to complain about how much he posted.

nice rant, but if you could get around to responding to what i write?

if china says our military did this, you think it’s wrong for the president to ( very brashly) respond?
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you are no bundle of joy :deadhorse:

i have a stunning golden retriever puppy that we got two weeks ago. i’m the happiest person in new england.

he can’t ever admit i’m
right, easier to assign
me a character flaw.
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As usual PaulS has managed to get this wrong. Trump did say it would eventually go away but never implied or actually used the term magic. This is simply a liberal interpretation. He also never called it a Democratic hoax. This is simply another liberal interpretation that intentionally missed the context of his statement. Nice try ��.
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"It's going to disappear. One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear," Trump told attendees at an African American History Month reception in the White House Cabinet Room.

He said "miracle". same thing you idiot. As I told you previously, if you think I'm wrong - you need to realize you are.

you are no bundle of joy :deadhorse:

I guess I can turn to constantly posting snarky comments or using democraps constantly like you do.

nice rant, but if you could get around to responding to what i write?

if china says our military did this, you think it’s wrong for the president to ( very brashly) respond?
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respond like a child and call it the china virus instead of being a big boy and using the scientific name? No one, even the Chinese people think the US created it so why stoop to their level. I could care less what China says about it and I don't want our Pres. to act like a child.

Worse day in market since black Monday, there goes the good economy card, it was all Trump had except for a blind base.
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Worse day in market since black Monday, there goes the good economy card, it was all Trump had except for a blind base.
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yeah I heard obama is no longer trying to take credit for trump's economy :biglaugh:

democraps



it's not me it's my spellcheck, I just find it amusing so I don't fix it...you know what I meant to say....right?

I've seen posts here in the past days that accuse the Chinese of developing the corona virus in a secret lab.
I've heard numbers of our politicians call it the Chinese virus and claim that they did nothing about it.
It's not acceptable.

Here's what AMERICAN DOCTOR Eugene Gu, MD said about calling it Chinese
·
Mar 10
As a Chinese Korean American, I know what it’s like going outside with the sniffles due to allergies. People are scared of anyone who coughs, but if you’re Asian it’s like you’re a terrorist. So please don’t call it the Chinese Coronavirus. We’re already walking on eggshells.

oh good...here we go....predictable nonsense.....right out of the left's playbook....tiresome really

"It's going to disappear. One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear," Trump told attendees at an African American History Month reception in the White House Cabinet Room.

He said "miracle". same thing you idiot. As I told you previously, if you think I'm wrong - you need to realize you are.

If this is your apology then I accept it.
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If this is your apology then I accept it.
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Just pointing out how stupid you are in this forum.
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I've seen posts here in the past days that accuse the Chinese of developing the corona virus in a secret lab.
I've heard numbers of our politicians call it the Chinese virus and claim that they did nothing about it.
It's not acceptable.

Here's what AMERICAN DOCTOR Eugene Gu, MD said about calling it Chinese
·
Mar 10
As a Chinese Korean American, I know what it’s like going outside with the sniffles due to allergies. People are scared of anyone who coughs, but if you’re Asian it’s like you’re a terrorist. So please don’t call it the Chinese Coronavirus. We’re already walking on eggshells.

Heard a Fox news host defending Trumps use of Chinese Virus by saying Ebola was named after a River ... it's amazing to see how much time Fox spends showing what CNN MsNBC and even the view has to say about Trump , then run to his defense .. in awe of last night's speech, but ignore the market tanking or all the major closures..

Just pointing out how stupid you are in this forum.
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I, in turn will point out that I was right. The fact that you insist magic and miracle apparently have the same meaning is revealing. I was merely responding to your nonsense and I will continue to correct your mistakes in the future. Something tells me that I will be busy.
🤡👌
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Heard a Fox news host defending Trumps use of Chinese Virus by saying Ebola was named after a River ... it's amazing to see how much time Fox spends showing what CNN MsNBC and even the view has to say about Trump , then run to his defense .. in awe of last night's speech, but ignore the market tanking or all the major closures..
Don’t let it upset you Wayne.
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I, in turn will point out that I was right. The fact that you insist magic and miracle apparently have the same meaning is revealing. I was merely responding to your nonsense and I will continue to correct your mistakes in the future. Something tells me that I will be busy.
🤡👌
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Haha what a clown you are.
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I see Moscow Mitch and his band of arse kissers blocked the Democrats emergency bill to give workers 14 days of sick leave during this crisis, his desk is were bills go to die.

this is why facts are important.

MSNBC of all
outlets, is reporting that the gop
blocked the bill, because the democrats put some abortion related items in there. Joy Reid in MSNBC was bashing the democrats for trying to do something so sleazy as attaching an abortion agenda to corona virus funding.

Facts are important. it’s not as simple as moscow
mitch not wanting to help people. this is assuming MSNBC is accurate, but even you have to admit they aren’t in the habit of
lying to attack democrats.

i await your response.
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The US and South Korea announced their first cases of the coronavirus on the same day: January 20. After more than six weeks, the US has only tested some 1,500 for the virus. South Korea has tested about 140,000.

Our own government is to blame if this balloons into a crisis.
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The US and South Korea announced their first cases of the coronavirus on the same day: January 20. After more than six weeks, the US has only tested some 1,500 for the virus. South Korea has tested about 140,000.

Our own government is to blame if this balloons into a crisis.
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It already is, schools closing, sports seasons over, people hoarding supplies and if you think the market is just reacting to the virus your head is stuck in the sand. The market is reacting to not just the virus, it’s this lame administrations handling from the start. Best president of our lifetime my arse and now that his Trump card the economy just went down the drain the Trump clan must be looking at how to keep the family businesses from tanking so they have something to fall back on.

Worse day in market since black Monday, there goes the good economy card, it was all Trump had except for a blind base.
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the february jobs report absolutely crushed. i havent heard anyone say the us economy isn’t strong. this plummet happened because someone in eastern china ate an infected armadillo, not because consumer demand isn’t strong or because of any other issues with our economy.

if the feds banned fishing, and people stopped buying your plastics, does that mean i can claim jyour plastics stink?

Put down the kool aid and think, for just two seconds.

Nothing good is his doing, everything bad is his doing. we get it.
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Futures were up 300 points last night when Trump started talking. When he was done it was down a thousand. He repeatedly lies and has no plan that is partly what is scaring people in the market.
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Futures were up 300 points last night when Trump started talking. When he was done it was down a thousand. He repeatedly lies and has no plan that is partly what is scaring people in the market.
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he limited travel, he is proposing ways to limit the financial impact to people who could
lose paychecks. he talked about the precautions we should
take. they’re working on test kits. what should he have said, that he didn’t say?

i know i like the guys results more than you do. but seriously, in your opinion, what should he have said?

markets are tanking everywhere, aren't they? does that mean everyone dislikes their
leaders the way you dislike trump? did you give him credit when the markets were soaring? or is it only his doing when something bad happens?

the bull market ( longest in history) was because of favorable things done by Obama, then Trump. How
is this plummet his fault? can you point to a nation with a leader you
like, whose stock market isn’t falling right now, because you think that leader did a better job ha sling the virus? it’s a global
pandemic that started in China, and likely exacerbated by China
mishandling it.

if the drop was because of concerns over the debt, he owns that. how does he own this?
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I never blamed the plummet on Trump. Just as I never gave him credit for all of the run-up. However today's sell-off had a lot to do with his speech last night and the lack of planning and his lies.
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I never blamed the plummet on Trump. Just as I never gave him credit for all of the run-up. However today's sell-off had a lot to do with his speech last night and the lack of planning and his lies.
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that’s fair.

do you have kids in school? we have 3. they haven’t announced any cancellations in my town yet, but teachers sent kids home today with tons of work, lots of talk about online learning. i assume schools will be closed for two
weeks starting monday.

as you probably know, the CIAC cancelled high school sports tournaments. yet
my 7th graders who plays travel basketball, has his final 4 this weekend in wethersfield, and they told us that they’re planning to play with no spectators. if it’s not safe for high school kids to play in empty gyms, how can it be safe for 7th graders.

Hope you and yours are completely unscathed.
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Funny to see my friends on FB who have given Trump never ending praise about their 401ks and the market shift gears into blaming the media and others about it now.. did the media ban Flights did the media call it a hoax did the media tell americans everyone who needed a test could get one, and rich people are tanking the market not avg people

Trump isn't the sole cause and never has been but his base cant accepted what he is responsible for ..

The US and South Korea announced their first cases of the coronavirus on the same day: January 20. After more than six weeks, the US has only tested some 1,500 for the virus. South Korea has tested about 140,000.

Our own government is to blame if this balloons into a crisis.
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Did you see how many cases they have confirmed? Yikes
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Haha what a clown you are.
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To. compare you to a fool would be cruel to the fool. You are not an intelligent person. Nor are you honest it seems.
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Funny to see my friends on FB who have given Trump never ending praise about their 401ks and the market shift gears into blaming the media and others about it now.. did the media ban Flights did the media call it a hoax did the media tell americans everyone who needed a test could get one, and rich people are tanking the market not avg people

Trump isn't the sole cause and never has been but his base cant accepted what he is responsible for ..
Don’t get distracted by the noise Wayne. It’s just Facebook.
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To. compare you to a fool would be cruel to the fool. You are not an intelligent person. Nor are you honest it seems.
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Okay mr. Irrelevant. The internet tough guy.
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I never blamed the plummet on Trump. Just as I never gave him credit for all of the run-up. However today's sell-off had a lot to do with his speech last night and the lack of planning and his lies.
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you forgot...The Russians

this is why facts are important.

MSNBC of all
outlets, is reporting that the gop
blocked the bill, because the democrats put some abortion related items in there. Joy Reid in MSNBC was bashing the democrats for trying to do something so sleazy as attaching an abortion agenda to corona virus funding.

Facts are important. it’s not as simple as moscow
mitch not wanting to help people. this is assuming MSNBC is accurate, but even you have to admit they aren’t in the habit of
lying to attack democrats.

i await your response.
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Don’t know the details and if that happened I’d agree, that typical political BS has no place in this process. Still the hypocrisy is still there in the GOP, look at Matt Gaetz and Cruz, both took a 2 week paid sick leave and both voted against bills to support paid sick leave in 2013 and 2015.

Don’t know the details and if that happened I’d agree, that typical political BS has no place in this process. Still the hypocrisy is still there in the GOP, look at Matt Gaetz and Cruz, both took a 2 week paid sick leave and both voted against bills to support paid sick leave in 2013 and 2015.
Don’t worry, once again Jim has a 180 degree misunderstanding because he failed to read past the Fox headline.
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Why is Trump refusing to get tested? Wouldn't it help the public to see The POTUS to do what he suggest the people to do and have done . TRUMP knows he was next to a postive person we have photos.. take the test and reassure the public.
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Don’t get distracted by the noise Wayne. It’s just Facebook.
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Same noise across fox nation .(even FB) Trumps not responsible . For anything.. never has and never will. Its the media its the Dems and dont forget Obama
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Same noise across fox nation .(even FB) Trumps not responsible . For anything.. never has and never will. Its the media its the Dems and dont forget Obama
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Don’t make it your mission to change their minds. Just live a happy life.
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Trump* is trying to make Pelosi president.
Both he and Pence have been exposed to people diagnosed with corona and if yesterday’s presser was any indication are not doing the cdc recommended protocols.
Do you think the Stable Genius knows how the line of succession works or does he think Jared can just take over
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I think he is showing courage and leadership under trying circumstances. Rest assured, he is aware of the consequences.
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About the Wuhan virus or Trump* Plague?
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About the line of succession Bitchslappedboy.
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About the line of succession Bitchslappedboy.
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Dingleberry
BREAKING: Mexico is considering closing their border with the US to prevent Americans from bringing Trump*plague to Mexico.
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I think he is showing courage and leadership under trying circumstances. Rest assured, he is aware of the consequences.
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If doing his best is making things worse it just validates what we’ve known all along, he’s unfit for office. To think he can’t even read 10 min of prepared remarks and not screw it completely up shows not just his own incompetence but the failure of those around him. We need a leader not someone with a wounded ego staring at the headlights and flailing about.
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Dingleberry
BREAKING: Mexico is considering closing their border with the US to prevent Americans from bringing Trump*plague to Mexico.
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You are off topic again,but that’s ok.
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If doing his best is making things worse it just validates what we’ve known all along, he’s unfit for office. To think he can’t even read 10 min of prepared remarks and not screw it completely up shows not just his own incompetence but the failure of those around him. We need a leader not someone with a wounded ego staring at the headlights and flailing about.
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Thanks for sharing your important thoughts Jeff.
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If doing his best is making things worse it just validates what we’ve known all along, he’s unfit for office. To think he can’t even read 10 min of prepared remarks and not screw it completely up shows not just his own incompetence but the failure of those around him. We need a leader not someone with a wounded ego staring at the headlights and flailing about.
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(1) did he mess up reading the prepared remarks? i thought the remarks were wrong.

(2) you correlate the ability to make good decisions, with the ability to read off a teleprompter? those two skills move in lockstep, do they?

anything to make him look bad, because you might not have anywhere to go to exile yourself again if he gets re elected.
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(1) did he mess up reading the prepared remarks? i thought the remarks were wrong.

(2) you correlate the ability to make good decisions, with the ability to read off a teleprompter? those two skills move in lockstep, do they?

anything to make him look bad, because you might not have anywhere to go to exile yourself again if he gets re elected.
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The Trump* Plague and the administration’s response will obviate the need to self-exile, barring a miracle. Magic is excluded as a solution because it implies some expertise.

President Barack Obama on 1/7/10: "Ultimately, the buck stops with me. As President, I have a solemn responsibility to protect our nation and our people, and when the system fails, it is my responsibility.”

Donald Trump on 3/12/20: “No, I don’t take responsibility at all.”
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The leader of every country that has a corona virus must publicly confess fault and only then will the caseload subside. Just fall on the sword and get it over with. Certainly Obama saved many lives with his baring of the soul. What was his death count at the time of his nice words? Maybe the virus will be eliminated by simply following his lead.
Thanks for the inspiration Bitchslappedboy.
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The leader of every country that has a corona virus must publicly confess fault and only then will the caseload subside. Just fall on the sword and get it over with. Certainly Obama saved many lives with his baring of the soul. What was his death count at the time of his nice words? Maybe the virus will be eliminated by simply following his lead.
Thanks for the inspiration Bitchslappedboy.
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Dingleberry

President Trump*, who is scheduled to be on a call with grocery store executives at this hour and has a pandemic to manage, is tweeting currently about the plight of Michael Flynn, his former national security adviser who pleaded guilty to lying to federal investigators.
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Pete, 10,000 americans, i believe, died of H1N1 when obama was president. how outraged were you then, at obama? or can you admit you’re a political hack?
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Pete, 10,000 americans, i believe, died of H1N1 when obama was president. how outraged were you then, at obama? or can you admit you’re a political hack?
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Please don’t facepalm Pete, not supposed to touch your face.
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Please don’t facepalm Pete, not supposed to touch your face.
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what did i say that was wrong?

did 10,000 americans die of H1N1
when obama
was president? and just
like i’d be an idiot to blame him for that, so are you guys wrong here. in one thread, some snowflakes were saying he went too far, some saying he didn’t do enough?
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Please dont confuse obama's administration actions with Trump's early inactions





https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/cdcresponse.htm

Please dont confuse obama's administration actions with Trump's early inactions




https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/cdcresponse.htm
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i dare you to tell us what the differences were, without you looking it up.

inaction? for the 20th time, when trump restricted travel from china on day one, he was called a racist and nationalist.

Doesn’t matter what trump does, you’ll say it was wrong.

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i dare you to tell us what the differences were, without you looking it up.

inaction? for the 20th time, when trump restricted travel from china on day one, he was called a racist and nationalist.

Doesn’t matter what trump does, you’ll say it was wrong.


Try looking at his actions in their entirety, I had to look it up, you suggest the last administration of allowing people to die.. facts matter read the time line ...

This thing isn't over , let's hope Trumps denials and his change of mind , haven't come to late.. not just the human costs

Try looking at his actions in their entirety, I had to look it up, you suggest the last administration of allowing people to die.. facts matter read the time line ...

This thing isn't over , let's hope Trumps denials and his change of mind , haven't come to late.. not just the human costs

who said it’s anywhere near over?

again, no matter what trump does, it’s wrong. it doesn’t matter what he does, you guys reflexively criticize it.

i’m not saying he did everything right. his speech the day before the dow dropped 2,000 was very sloppy. but somehow
you all know he blew it. if he did exactly what you think he should
have done, would
you be capable of saying so? of course not.

as an aside, the market liquidity problem was a lot worse than o was aware, or the fed wouldn’t have done what they did.
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Dingleberry

President Trump*, who is scheduled to be on a call with grocery store executives at this hour and has a pandemic to manage, is tweeting currently about the plight of Michael Flynn, his former national security adviser who pleaded guilty to lying to federal investigators.
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More off topic?
Get back on the meds Bitchslappedboy
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More off topic?
Get back on the meds Bitchslappedboy
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Dingleberry
Trump* can’t brag about stocks or the great economy.

He can’t say he is going to drain the swamp bc his admin is swampier.

He can’t say he is going to bring down debt bc he blew it up without cause and now he’s adding way more

He can’t say Mexico is going to pay for a wall.

What does he have left to run on?

Is it gonna be dead elderly and look at the Medicaid savings?

The incompetence that I said was there is now out for all to see.

His first move in the corona virus debacle was his only correct one, after that he only did things to benefit himself.
And his prior destruction of all things Obama removed much needed national security safeguards.
Now we pay the price for electing a clown
But my 401K
The Asian markets are getting hammered
We’ll see what ours think of Trump*’s lies tomorrow
We will be the new Greece if he has his way.
He’s very happy
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This too shall pass.
I am confident that Trump will be re-elected. Then you may understand this never had anything to do with the market. Try to keep up.
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This too shall pass.
I am confident that Trump will be re-elected. Then you may understand this never had anything to do with the market. Try to keep up.
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NBC/WSJ poll says 60% of Americans think the worst is yet to come with COVID-19. Who are the other 40%?

Luckily 60% of Americans are not as simple as you.
Trump* used the growth tools to prop up the elderly bull market
Now he will save us like he saved his casino, airline, university etc.
Little over 300 days till the next inauguration and what Trump* will do in his last 60 ought to scare any thinking person
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I agree in regards to the virus Bitchslappedboy.
The other gibberish is just more of the same from you
🤡🍔🤡
Meanwhile, it’s a great time to buy that vacation home you have been saving for as interest rates are historically low.👍🏿
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Pete, our economy is fundamentally strong. I’m going to
take a stab that you didnt see the february jobs report?

The market
is dropping like a rock because we were hit by an outside influence we had nothing to do with. people are going to spend a lot less in the coming weeks, meaning earnings will be down. i can’t imagine owning a restaurant right now.

You’re saying this is trumps fault? Really?

How do you suppose we’d be better off exactly, if Hilary had won? How do you suppose our economy would be better off right at this moment, if hilary had won? Can you be specific?

You’re rooting for many deaths and an economic collapse. because if we come out relatively un-scathed, trump could possibly be seen as having managed us through this crisis well. And we all know that your bitch-slapped psyche cannot process that possibility.

Politics and economics aren’t for you. Stick to calling people’s mothers whores, you’re better at that.

You’re the rodeo clown here. the most reasonable liberal here by far is rockhound, and he has you blocked. You might ask yourself why he did that. The most logical
and thoughtful liberal here...
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Pete, our economy is fundamentally strong. I’m going to
take a stab that you didnt see the february jobs report?

The market
is dropping like a rock because we were hit by an outside influence we had nothing to do with. people are going to spend a lot less in the coming weeks, meaning earnings will be down. i can’t imagine owning a restaurant right now.

You’re saying this is trumps fault? Really?

How do you suppose we’d be better off exactly, if Hilary had won? How do you suppose our economy would be better off right at this moment, if hilary had won? Can you be specific?

You’re rooting for many deaths and an economic collapse. because if we come out relatively un-scathed, trump could possibly be seen as having managed us through this crisis well. And we all know that your bitch-slapped psyche cannot process that possibility.

Politics and economics aren’t for you. Stick to calling people’s mothers whores, you’re better at that.

You’re the rodeo clown here. the most reasonable liberal here by far is rockhound, and he has you blocked. You might ask yourself why he did that. The most logical
and thoughtful liberal here...
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Tell me again you're not an angry person. I need a laugh this morning.

Pete, our economy is fundamentally strong. I’m going to
take a stab that you didnt see the february jobs report?

The market
is dropping like a rock because we were hit by an outside influence we had nothing to do with. people are going to spend a lot less in the coming weeks, meaning earnings will be down. i can’t imagine owning a restaurant right now.

You’re saying this is trumps fault? Really?

How do you suppose we’d be better off exactly, if Hilary had won? How do you suppose our economy would be better off right at this moment, if hilary had won? Can you be specific?

You’re rooting for many deaths and an economic collapse. because if we come out relatively un-scathed, trump could possibly be seen as having managed us through this crisis well. And we all know that your bitch-slapped psyche cannot process that possibility.

Politics and economics aren’t for you. Stick to calling people’s mothers whores, you’re better at that.

You’re the rodeo clown here. the most reasonable liberal here by far is rockhound, and he has you blocked. You might ask yourself why he did that. The most logical
and thoughtful liberal here...
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President Trump made his first public comments about the coronavirus on Jan. 22, in a television interview from Davos with CNBC’s Joe Kernen. The first American case had been announced the day before, and Kernen asked Trump, “Are there worries about a pandemic at this point?”

The president responded: “No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

By this point, the seriousness of the virus was becoming clearer. It had spread from China to four other countries. China was starting to take drastic measures and was on the verge of closing off the city of Wuhan.

In the weeks that followed, Trump faced a series of choices. He could have taken aggressive measures to slow the spread of the virus. He could have insisted that the United States ramp up efforts to produce test kits. He could have emphasized the risks that the virus presented and urged Americans to take precautions if they had reason to believe they were sick. He could have used the powers of the presidency to reduce the number of people who would ultimately get sick.

He did none of those things.
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Trump actually said he didn’t know people died with the flu and for something he claimed was under complete control, it sure doesn’t look that way. Charlie Baker shutting down everything statewide and banning gatherings over 25 is going to really hurt the economy and especially service worker’s relying on a paycheck or tip money to pay the rent.

Which leader has done a good job preparing for this? Please reveal the name of this well known head of State. I know there is somebody you can’t wait to say ....
Somebody out there surely made this look easy and they have a country full of safe citizens as a result.
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I don’t think any leader would welcome this and all would struggle with how to gear up to address it, that is were the similarities end with Trump. He has shown time and time again how stupid he is, that his messaging was more geared toward making light of it to keep his base in camp and to stand in front of a national address and contradict your own scientific experts is so bad. He has shown he is more concerned with how the market is doing than anyone in this country he took an oath to protect and serve. Self service is all he knows.

The beat goes on. Everybody feels compelled to blame. What a world.
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Since she learned of the coronavirus outbreak, Amy Ho’s daily routine has gotten a bit more complicated. Coming home now involves sanitizing her shoes, washing her hands with soap and water, taking off her medical mask and changing her clothes.

The Hong Kong resident ventures outside only by necessity. She walks to and from work. Goes to the grocery store once a week. That’s it. Her teenage daughter has only left their apartment twice since the end of January.

“It’s annoying, sure. But our health is the most important thing,” she says.

Over Easter, the family looked forward to vacationing in the U.K. and Italy. But with the virus raging, they canceled.

Her precautions may sound drastic, but they’re hardly unique in a city that was among the first to be swept up in the global coronavirus crisis.

That Hong Kong has become a lodestar for its ability to seemingly keep the disease at bay, for now at least, is no accident: it’s desperate to avoid repeating the nightmare of a 2003 epidemic. Globally, SARS or severe acute respiratory syndrome, infected over 8,000 and killed 774, including 299 in Hong Kong.

Though SARS devastated many Asian metropolises, in its wake, some doubled down on preparing for the next crisis.


“Somewhat perversely, we can look at SARS as the dress rehearsal,” says Jeremy Lim, co-director of the Leadership Institute for Global Health Transformation at the National University of Singapore. “The experience was raw, and very, very visceral. And on the back of [it], better systems were put in place.”

Singapore, Hong Kong and Taiwan have been hailed for using those hard-won lessons to combat the new coronavirus—officially COVID-19 and a relative of SARS.

It’s still too early for anywhere to declare victory just yet. But against the odds, these enclaves have succeeded at keeping their virus numbers low, despite their links to China. Perhaps governments in North America and Europe, which are now bearing the brunt of the pandemic, can emulate their best practices, and turn the tide on an infection spreading rapidly through the global population.

Act quickly
For Singapore, Taiwan and Hong Kong, the story could easily have been one of catastrophe. The novel coronavirus emerged just in time for Lunar New Year, when millions travel across the region in the world’s largest annual human migration. All three territories are closely interconnected with mainland China, with direct flights to Wuhan, the outbreak’s epicenter.

The beat goes on. Everybody feels compelled to blame. What a world.
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Based on where we are, do you seriously feel Trump doesn’t deserve blame for the messaging and constant (until he couldn’t) attempt to downplay the seriousness of this outbreak? Nobody is blaming him for for the virus, but Fauci speaks the truth and a Trump contradicts, best idiot of our lifetime.

Late January
On the same day that Trump was dismissing the risks on CNBC, Tom Frieden, who ran the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for eight years, wrote an op-ed for the health care publication Stat. In it, Frieden warned that the virus would continue spreading. “We need to learn — and fast — about how it spreads,” he wrote.

It was one of many such warnings from prominent experts in late January. Many focused on the need to expand the capacity to test for the virus. In a Wall Street Journal article titled, “Act Now to Prevent an American Epidemic,” Luciana Borio and Scott Gottlieb — both former Trump administration officials — wrote:

If public-health authorities don’t interrupt the spread soon, the virus could infect many thousands more around the globe, disrupt air travel, overwhelm health care systems, and, worst of all, claim more lives. The good news: There’s still an opening to prevent a grim outcome. … But authorities can’t act quickly without a test that can diagnose the condition rapidly.

Trump, however, repeatedly told Americans that there was no reason to worry. On Jan. 24, he tweeted, “It will all work out well.” On Jan. 28, he retweeted a headline from One America News, an outlet with a history of spreading false conspiracy theories: “Johnson & Johnson to create coronavirus vaccine.” On Jan. 30, during a speech in Michigan, he said: “We have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five. And those people are all recuperating successfully.”

That same day, the World Health Organization declared coronavirus to be a “public-health emergency of international concern.” It announced 7,818 confirmed cases around the world.

I don't blame Pres. Trump for some of the slow movement. I do blame him for the lies and down playing the seriousness of the virus. He did cut the pandemic team.

He has no empathy or compassion and that came across in his speech (which some are saying was the worse speech since Carter's Malaise speech). Also, they should not have said that all communication had to be cleared by the WH. It was inexcusable for him to say he didn't want the Americans on the cruise ship brought back to their country bc he didn't want the #s to go higher.

Fauci sb the face of the admin. as he has empathy, compassion, smarts and doesn't lie.

A Complete List of Trump’s Attempts to Play Down Coronavirus
He could have taken action. He didn’t.

By David Leonhardt
Opinion Columnist
• March 15, 2020
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President Trump made his first public comments about the coronavirus on Jan. 22, in a television interview from Davos with CNBC’s Joe Kernen. The first American case had been announced the day before, and Kernen asked Trump, “Are there worries about a pandemic at this point?”
The president responded: “No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”
By this point, the seriousness of the virus was becoming clearer. It had spread from China to four other countries. China was starting to take drastic measures and was on the verge of closing off the city of Wuhan.
In the weeks that followed, Trump faced a series of choices. He could have taken aggressive measures to slow the spread of the virus. He could have insisted that the United States ramp up efforts to produce test kits. He could have emphasized the risks that the virus presented and urged Americans to take precautions if they had reason to believe they were sick. He could have used the powers of the presidency to reduce the number of people who would ultimately get sick.
He did none of those things.
I’ve reviewed all of his public statements and actions on coronavirus over the last two months, and they show a president who put almost no priority on public health. Trump’s priorities were different: Making the virus sound like a minor nuisance. Exaggerating his administration’s response. Blaming foreigners and, anachronistically, the Obama administration. Claiming incorrectly that the situation was improving. Trying to cheer up stock market investors. (It was fitting that his first public comments were from Davos and on CNBC.)
Now that the severity of the virus is undeniable, Trump is already trying to present an alternate history of the last two months. Below are the facts — a timeline of what the president was saying, alongside statements from public-health experts as well as data on the virus.
Late January
On the same day that Trump was dismissing the risks on CNBC, Tom Frieden, who ran the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for eight years, wrote an op-ed for the health care publication Stat. In it, Frieden warned that the virus would continue spreading. “We need to learn — and fast — about how it spreads,” he wrote.
It was one of many such warnings from prominent experts in late January. Many focused on the need to expand the capacity to test for the virus. In a Wall Street Journal article titled, “Act Now to Prevent an American Epidemic,” Luciana Borio and Scott Gottlieb — both former Trump administration officials — wrote:
If public-health authorities don’t interrupt the spread soon, the virus could infect many thousands more around the globe, disrupt air travel, overwhelm health care systems, and, worst of all, claim more lives. The good news: There’s still an opening to prevent a grim outcome. … But authorities can’t act quickly without a test that can diagnose the condition rapidly.
Trump, however, repeatedly told Americans that there was no reason to worry. On Jan. 24, he tweeted, “It will all work out well.” On Jan. 28, he retweeted a headline from One America News, an outlet with a history of spreading false conspiracy theories: “Johnson & Johnson to create coronavirus vaccine.” On Jan. 30, during a speech in Michigan, he said: “We have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five. And those people are all recuperating successfully.”
That same day, the World Health Organization declared coronavirus to be a “public-health emergency of international concern.” It announced 7,818 confirmed cases around the world.
Jan. 31
Trump took his only early, aggressive action against the virus on Jan. 31: He barred most foreigners who had recently visited China from entering the United States. It was a good move.
But it was only one modest move, not the sweeping solution that Trump portrayed it to be. It didn’t apply to Americans who had been traveling in China, for example. And while it generated some criticism from Democrats, it wasn’t nearly as unpopular as Trump has since suggested. Two days after announcing the policy, Trump went on Fox News and exaggerated the impact in an interview with Sean Hannity.
“Coronavirus,” Hannity said. “How concerned are you?”
Trump replied: “Well, we pretty much shut it down coming in from China. We have a tremendous relationship with China, which is a very positive thing. Getting along with China, getting along with Russia, getting along with these countries.”
By the time of that interview, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases around the world had surged to 14,557, a near doubling over the previous three days.
Early February
On Feb. 5, the C.D.C. began shipping coronavirus test kits to laboratories around the country. But the tests suffered from a technical flaw and didn’t produce reliable results, labs discovered.
The technical problems were understandable: Creating a new virus test is not easy. What’s less understandable, experts say, is why the Trump administration officials were so lax about finding a work-around, even as other countries were creating reliable tests.
The Trump administration could have begun to use a functioning test from the World Health Organization, but didn’t. It could have removed regulations that prevented private hospitals and labs from quickly developing their own tests, but didn’t. The inaction meant that the United States fell behind South Korea, Singapore and China in fighting the virus. “We just twiddled our thumbs as the coronavirus waltzed in,” William Hanage, a Harvard epidemiologist, wrote.
Trump, for his part, spent these first weeks of February telling Americans that the problem was going away. On Feb. 10, he repeatedly said — in a speech to governors, at a campaign rally and in an interview with Trish Regan of Fox Business — that warm spring weather could kill the virus. “Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away,” he told the rally.
On Feb. 19, he told a Phoenix television station, “I think the numbers are going to get progressively better as we go along.” Four days later, he pronounced the situation “very much under control,” and added: “We had 12, at one point. And now they’ve gotten very much better. Many of them are fully recovered.”
His message was clear: Coronavirus is a small problem, and it is getting smaller. In truth, the shortage of testing meant that the country didn’t know how bad the problem was. All of the available indicators suggested it was getting worse, rapidly.
On Feb. 23, the World Health Organization announced that the virus was in 30 countries, with 78,811 confirmed cases, a more than fivefold increase over the previous three weeks.
Late February
Trump seemed largely uninterested in the global virus statistics during this period, but there were other indicators — stock-market indexes — that mattered a lot to him. And by the last week of February, those market indexes were falling.
The president reacted by adding a new element to his public remarks. He began blaming others.
He criticized CNN and MSNBC for “panicking markets.” He said at a South Carolina rally — falsely — that “the Democrat policy of open borders” had brought the virus into the country. He lashed out at “Do Nothing Democrat comrades.” He tweeted about “Cryin’ Chuck Schumer,” mocking Schumer for arguing that Trump should be more aggressive in fighting the virus. The next week, Trump would blame an Obama administration regulation for slowing the production of test kits. There was no truth to the charge.
Throughout late February, Trump also continued to claim the situation was improving. On Feb. 26, he said: “We’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up.” On Feb. 27, he predicted: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.” On Feb. 29, he said a vaccine would be available “very quickly” and “very rapidly” and praised his administration’s actions as “the most aggressive taken by any country.” None of these claims were true.
By the end of February, there were 85,403 confirmed cases, in 55 countries around the world.
Early March
Almost two decades ago, during George W. Bush’s presidency, the federal government developed guidelines for communicating during a public-health crisis. Among the core principles are “be first,” “be right,” “be credible,” “show respect” and “promote action.”
But the Trump administration’s response to coronavirus, as a Washington Post news story put it, is “breaking almost every rule in the book.”
The inconsistent and sometimes outright incorrect information coming from the White House has left Americans unsure of what, if anything, to do. By early March, experts already were arguing for aggressive measures to slow the virus’s spread and avoid overwhelming the medical system. The presidential bully pulpit could have focused people on the need to change their behavior in a way that no private citizen could have. Trump could have specifically encouraged older people — at most risk from the virus — to be careful. Once again, he chose not to take action.
Instead, he suggested on multiple occasions that the virus was less serious than the flu. “We’re talking about a much smaller range” of deaths than from the flu, he said on March 2. “It’s very mild,” he told Hannity on March 4. On March 7, he said, “I’m not concerned at all.” On March 10, he promised: “It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”
The first part of March was also when more people began to understand that the United States had fallen behind on testing, and Trump administration officials responded with untruths.
Alex Azar, the secretary of health and human services, told ABC, “There is no testing kit shortage, nor has there ever been.” Trump, while touring the C.D.C. on March 6, said, “Anybody that wants a test can get a test.”
That C.D.C. tour was a microcosm of Trump’s entire approach to the crisis. While speaking on camera, he made statements that were outright wrong, like the testing claim. He brought up issues that had nothing to do with the virus, like his impeachment. He made clear that he cared more about his image than about people’s well-being, by explaining that he favored leaving infected passengers on a cruise ship so they wouldn’t increase the official number of American cases. He also suggested that he knew as much as any scientist:
I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.
On March 10, the World Health Organization reported 113,702 cases of the virus in more than 100 countries.
Mid-March and beyond
On the night of March 11, Trump gave an Oval Office address meant to convey seriousness. It included some valuable advice, like the importance of hand-washing. But it also continued many of the old patterns of self-congratulation, blame-shifting and misinformation. Afterward, Trump aides corrected three different misstatements.
This pattern has continued in the days since the Oval Office address. Trump now seems to understand that coronavirus isn’t going away anytime soon. But he also seems to view it mostly as a public-relations emergency for himself rather than a public-health emergency for the country. On Sunday, he used his Twitter feed to lash out at Schumer and Joe Biden and to praise Michael Flynn, the former Trump aide who pleaded guilty to lying to the F.B.I.
Around the world, the official virus count has climbed above 142,000. In the United States, scientists expect that between tens of millions and 215 million Americans will ultimately be infected, and the death toll could range from the tens of thousands to 1.7 million.
At every point, experts have emphasized that the country could reduce those terrible numbers by taking action. And at almost every point, the president has ignored their advice and insisted, “It’s going to be just fine.”

Based on where we are, do you seriously feel Trump doesn’t deserve blame for the messaging and constant (until he couldn’t) attempt to downplay the seriousness of this outbreak? Nobody is blaming him for for the virus, but Fauci speaks the truth and a Trump contradicts, best idiot of our lifetime.

Blame anybody that makes you feel better and safer. Do what helps.
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Tell me again you're not an angry person. I need a laugh this morning.

paul, i don’t see how you assume i must be angry ton poke fun at someone. i’ve never heard anyone suggest that anger is a prerequisite for disdain, but i’m here to tell you that its not.

have you ever criticized Pete? Because selective outrage, is fake outrage.
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
BIGGEST STOCK MARKET RISE IN HISTORY YESTERDAY!
8:08 AM · Mar 14, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

‘Hi...I’m Donald Trump*...and when the Dow goes down 6000 points in 10 days...including the worst one-day drop in history, ending the 11 year Bull Market...you won’t hear a PEEP from me. But the one day it goes up? I brag! Because I’m a sociopath...

I don’t think any leader would welcome this and all would struggle with how to gear up to address it, that is were the similarities end with Trump. He has shown time and time again how stupid he is, that his messaging was more geared toward making light of it to keep his base in camp and to stand in front of a national address and contradict your own scientific experts is so bad. He has shown he is more concerned with how the market is doing than anyone in this country he took an oath to protect and serve. Self service is all he knows.

who is “welcoming this”, outside of those who see it as an opportunity to tile the election?

he’s calling for zero
percent interest on student loans, and income protection for those who loses their income. How is that evidence that he only cares about he markets? Please explain.
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Hi my name is Bitchslappedboy and I can find anything about Trump to criticize. I do it so much that people who are like minded have blocked me.
I am NOT a sociopath, I am a 🤡
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paul, i don’t see how you assume i must be angry ton poke fun at someone. i’ve never heard anyone suggest that anger is a prerequisite for disdain, but i’m here to tell you that its not.

have you ever criticized Pete? Because selective outrage, is fake outrage.
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You have argued with pretty much everyone who disagrees with your point of view and while you can debate someone for a few posts it usually turns into Liberals this and liberals that (insults).

I don't read most of Pete's posts but of the ones I read many (most?) don't personally insult anyone other than Trump. Sea Dangles will than insult him bc he can't think of anything smart to say. So Pete takes more crap than anyone here.

Edit - After I posted this I saw Chris added his usual classlessness to this forum.

The market viewed that the fed panicked with their rate cut. I wonder if the Fed did it bc Trump was threatening to fire Powell?

You really need to look at the drastic measures that China took to foresee what we are in for.
After months of inaction, the Trump* administration is finally taking limited action.

This administration's inaction will be responsible and "I don't take responsibility at all," won't fly.

Coronavirus: China’s economy suffers dramatic collapse in January, February in warning to rest of world
Combined data for January and February showed that industrial production, retail sales and asset investment all declined far more than analysts expected
Lockdowns to control the coronavirus proved to be a constraint to economic growth, but with China now in recovery, data suggests what rest of the world could expect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L95RL8xc-D4

Despite all Jim's claims, I won't be happy if the Dow reaches 14K but it certainly looks like Trump*'s incompetence, lies, team of yes men and his son-in law will get us there.

You would think that Trump* would learn that Wall St won’t keep buying tickets to his show.
But real coordinated fiscal policy, monetary policy & being completely transparent about the public health emergency would be very well received.

But Trump* is banking on a miracle, latest episode to be aired this afternoon.

A 3:30 p.m. White House briefing sets up a repeat of this from Friday, where the positive stuff all comes before the closing bell and then things go off the rails.

Remarkable how quickly Trump* has become basically irrelevant to the crisis. Everyone recognizes he doesn’t have a clue, is not up to the job, and can’t be looked to for leadership or guidance.

A complete and utter failure of Job #1 for a president.

“months of inaction”. he restricted travel
from china very early on, and was attacked for doing so.
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pete, never once saw you post about the benefits of the market going up for the past three years, but the lefties can’t stop talking about the drop. If it’s not politically motivated, then why is that?
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he restricted travel
from china very early on, and was attacked for doing so.
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You still have never provided any proof of this, it's straight from Trump's mouth to your ears.

He continually claims that Trump* was made a victim for the only timely correct step he made and the only backup for his claim is the Daily Caller, Trumplican media crying victim as usual.

I have said since he started that Trump* and his gang of incompetents are using all the recession fighting tools to save the ailing bull market.

He did, they are gone, the Bear is here, triggered by Corona and we are now following the path of Japan into the Great Stagnation.

President Donald Trump has made a number of misleading statements about his decision on Jan. 31 to impose travel restrictions related to the novel coronavirus epidemic.

Trump has referred to the travel restrictions as a “travel ban.” There isn’t an outright ban, as there are exceptions, including for Americans and their family members.
Trump said he was “bold” in imposing travel restrictions even though “everybody said, it’s too early, it’s too soon” and “a lot of people that work on this stuff almost exclusively” told him “don’t do it.” Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said the decision stemmed from “the uniform recommendations of the career public health officials here at HHS.”
Trump said Democrats “loudly criticized and protested” his announced travel restrictions, and that they “called me a racist because I made that decision.” Trump is overstating Democratic opposition. None of the party’s congressional leaders and none of the Democratic candidates running for president have directly criticized that decision, though at least two Democrats have.
Trump said the travel restrictions “saved a lot of lives” and reduced U.S. COVID-19 cases to “a very small number.” But experts say there isn’t enough data to make that determination. A study in the journal Science found the various travel limitations across the globe initially helped to slow the spread, but the number of cases worldwide rose anyway because the virus had already begun traveling undetected internationally.
Azar declared a public health emergency for the novel coronavirus on Jan. 31, and announced the travel restrictions to and from China, effective Feb. 2. On Feb. 29, Trump expanded those travel restrictions to Iran. Trump has repeatedly boasted that his decision to impose the travel restrictions was bold and worked. But his rhetoric has sometimes stretched the facts.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/

Again lets hope its not to little to late

The captain is responsible for his and his people's inactions or actions during a crisis... this has been true thru History , but History only applies to Trump if its positive. Trump supporters prove this daily

Demtard Playbook

1) Create a problem, PANIC
2) Government plan to the rescue
3) Nonstop talk about it
4) Plan is ineffective at solving the problem
5) Rinse and Repeat

:claps::claps::claps::claps:

You still have never provided any proof of this, it's straight from Trump's mouth to your ears.

the hell i didn’t. rirockhound asked for proof, i googled it and posted several links to articles calling trump a racist, a xenophobe, and a nationalist, for his travel restriction.

just google it. or search this thread. after you’re done rubbing one out to your obama poster.
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The Dem. mayor of Beachwood Ohio (Pop 657) called Trump a racist and a xenophobe. That is good enough for Jim.

He continually claims that Trump* was made a victim for the only timely correct step he made and the only backup for his claim is the Daily Caller, Trumplican media crying victim as usual.

I have said since he started that Trump* and his gang of incompetents are using all the recession fighting tools to save the ailing bull market.

He did, they are gone, the Bear is here, triggered by Corona and we are now following the path of Japan into the Great Stagnation.

what i claimed is that (1) trump was criticized for his early travel ban, and that (2) now he’s being criticized for not doing enough, and that (3) the H1N1 virus killed
more than 10,000 americans when obama was potus, and that didn’t get anywhere near this level of media hysteria. Please tell
us which if those statements are wrong?

you want to say he’s made too many statements that were incorrect, i agree. you want to say he’s not the right guy to restore calm and confidence, i agree. That doesn’t mean the media salivating over the opportunity to use this to help him lose the election. they’re deranged with hate.

look at you here. you said obama’s incarceration of children wasn’t problematic, but Trumps is, because of the numbers. All i did was ask you what the maximum
number of child detention is before it’s barbaric, and you responded by insulting my mother? is that rational?
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The Dem. mayor of Beachwood Ohio (Pop 657) called Trump a racist and a xenophobe. That is good enough for Jim.

i posted a half dozen articles for brian, could’ve posted a hundred.

A speck of honesty asking too much?
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i posted a half dozen articles for brian, could’ve posted a hundred.

A speck of honesty asking too much?
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You posted 3 Op eds. and one was from the people's journal or something like that. Never heard of it.

Am I mistaken or are you lying?

i posted a half dozen articles for brian, could’ve posted a hundred.

A speck of honesty asking too much?
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He is known to post lies and he won’t admit to them.
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He is known to post lies and he won’t admit to them.
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Mr. Irrelevant. What a clown.

i posted a half dozen articles for brian, could’ve posted a hundred.

A speck of honesty asking too much?


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There is your 3 articles. Now be a good angry man and say you are sorry.



The article didn't mention it. I've yet to hear many liberals admit that they have a habit of calling everyone who disagree with them about anything, a bigot. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen all the time. Liberals aren't shy about denying irrefutable, factual, empirical evidence. This is why liberals in CT claim that tax-and-spend is our solution, despite evidence to the contrary, which doesn't deter liberals.

I googled "Trump racist China travel coronavirus", here's a sample of what I got as a result...

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article...ainst-disease/

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/trum...181922522.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...avirus/606610/

Just look at the headlines...

He is known to post lies and he won’t admit to them.
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Here are the 3 articles (not 6).

As I told you, when you and I disagree - you are usually wrong. It is bc you are stupid.


https://www.peoplesworld.org/article...ainst-disease/

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/trum...181922522.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...avirus/606610/

Just look at the headlines...

what i claimed is that (1) trump was criticized for his early travel ban, and that (2) now he’s being criticized for not doing enough, and that (3) the H1N1 virus killed
more than 10,000 americans when obama was potus, and that didn’t get anywhere near this level of media hysteria. Please tell
us which if those statements are wrong?
As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result (0.4% of the estimated total number of people who contracted it), and 12,000 died (0.02% not statistically different than the seasonal flu, the dead people might not agree though).
I would feel safe if this virus had those stats.
In South Korea which is testing 1/200 of it's citizens and controlling community spread the death rate is more than 8x the H1N1 virus, In Italy it is similar and you cant figure out the true death rate till it is over. So far the CDC is saying this is much worse.

you want to say he’s made too many statements that were incorrect, i agree. you want to say he’s not the right guy to restore calm and confidence, i agree. That doesn’t mean the media salivating over the opportunity to use this to help him lose the election. they’re deranged with hate.

They see the incompetence and report on it, you assume that the people who report on the federal government have not seen how things work, how information flows and talk to people inside administrations about what is going on behind the walls of the WH

look at you here. you said obama’s incarceration of children wasn’t problematic, but Trumps is, because of the numbers. All i did was ask you what the maximum
number of child detention is before it’s barbaric, and you responded by insulting my mother? is that rational?
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Do you really want to go there?

Do you really want to go there?
I'd give up. Jim doesn't read past the headlines on anything. Of the last two links he posted today, the first was an opinion piece contradicted by the actual quotes referenced and the other, a gem, was based on a Schumer Tweet that BY ADMISSION OF THE OWN ARTICLE HE CITED was likely made up :rollem::eek5::1poke::rtfm:

Jim has less credibility than Trump these days.

Here are the 3 articles (not 6).

As I told you, when you and I disagree - you are usually wrong. It is bc you are stupid.


https://www.peoplesworld.org/article...ainst-disease/

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/trum...181922522.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...avirus/606610/

Just look at the headlines...

I don’t have to look far to find your lies. You have nothing left to prove to me so rest easy.

Do you still insist magical and miracle are synonymous 🤦🏽#^&♂️
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President Trump** rates his response to the coronavirus crisis: “I’d rate it a 10. I think we’ve done a great job.”

Keep in mind that it’s always dumb to credit or fault a president as if stock market returns are theirs to control, but if a president is dumb enough to do that for himself, the rule is waived.


Largest Dow Jones Drops in American History:

1) Trump**: −2,997 3/16/20
2) Trump*: −2,013 3/9/20
3) Trump*: −1,464 3/11/20
4) Trump*: -1,191 2/27/20
5) Trump*: -1,175 2/5/18
6) Trump*: -1,032 2/8/18
7) Trump*: -1,031 2/24/20
8) Trump*: -969 3/5/20
9) Trump*: -879 2/25/20

I don’t have to look far to find your lies. You have nothing left to prove to me so rest easy.

Do you still insist magical and miracle are synonymous ����#^&♂️
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If that is the best you have it shows what a pathetic person you are.