Why does anyone listen to this sexually ambiguous circus freak? In all seriousness, how many chances does someone get to be totally, laughably wrong, before people stop listening?

Maddow's comment, 10 days ago...

"There is no sign that the Navy hospital ships that the president made such a big deal of, the Comfort and the Mercy, there is no sign that they’ll be anywhere on-site, helping out anywhere in the country, for weeks yet."

Will she apologize? Will ANYONE ask her why she assumed it would be weeks? No, and no.

weren't we also given all sorts of reasons why these companies couldn't retool....seems like the left is hoping for the worst

weren't we also given all sorts of reasons why these companies couldn't retool....seems like the left is hoping for the worst
Not aware of any.

Wonder why Jim feels compelled to attack her gender first and foremost.
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Not aware of any.

Wonder why Jim feels compelled to attack her gender first and foremost.
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I'm so sorry.

Now, can you comment on how laughably wrong she was? Is it responsible journalism to be so blinded by hatred, that she'd tell her audience that help is so much further away than it really was?

While you’re at it, tell us about the halfwit that said on March 6th that anyone can get tested.
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"Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away,”


Also, I hope everyone who knows or has contact with Jim gets to see this post and see what kind of a person he really is. Everyone except his kids that is. They don't need to see this side of him.
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Hospital ship Comfort based in Norfolk, Va. not able to arrive in New York harbor until mid-April for coronavirus relief: U.S. Navy officials

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"Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away,”


Also, I hope everyone who knows or has contact with Jim gets to see this post and see what kind of a person he really is. Everyone except his kids that is. They don't need to see this side of him.
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Hi again, Mr. President! That clip was from March 20, after you said the ship would be in New York harbor by last week. The ship was not in New York last week -- which is what I said on my show.

You were wrong about it.

No hard feelings. Everyone's glad it's there now. But...you really have been terrible about communicating true, factual information to the public in this crisis. Please let the experts and scientists speak instead.

And please nationalize the supply chain for critical medical supplies. Thanks for watching, Mr. President.

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Clearly he is a halfbeast whose source was Maddie.

I am guessing that was based on initial estimates in the dining by the USN? I doubt it was plucked out of thin air....
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Clearly he is a halfbeast whose source was Maddie.

I am guessing that was based on initial estimates in the dining by the USN? I doubt it was plucked out of thin air....
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Yeah, that is the ":U.S. Navy Officials" part. Cuomo had also said at the time that the Navy gave him mid April as the projection. "Will ANYONE ask her why she assumed it would be weeks?" :yak4:

Clearly he is a halfbeast whose source was Maddie.

I am guessing that was based on initial estimates in the dining by the USN? I doubt it was plucked out of thin air....
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read Maddows qute, she was clearly scoffing Trumps idea that the hospital ships could help soon.

In 8 years of Obama, how many times do you suppose that Maddow scoffed at an idea of Obama's, and told her viewers that an Obama ide couldn't pan out? especially in matters this important?

And will Maddow admit she was wrong? That's part of this. You offer opinions all day every day, you're going to be wrong occasionally.

Maddow said that Hilary would win in a landslide.

Mddow said she had Trums tax records, and that was it, he was done.

Then she said Russian collusion would bring him down. The Mueller report would establish that.

Then she said obstrustion would bring him down.

And Russia, Russia, Russia!

When Obama promised that his stimulus package would keep unemployment below 6% (or was it 8%), and instead it shot over 10%, did Maddow ask Obama how he could be wrong by milllions of jobs? Did she, Bry?

If she's not the enemy of the people, she's pretty close. She really abuses the protections we afford the press.

Sounds like Jim has got a crush on someone :hihi:
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"Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away,”


Also, I hope everyone who knows or has contact with Jim gets to see this post and see what kind of a person he really is. Everyone except his kids that is. They don't need to see this side of him.
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Hi again, Mr. President! That clip was from March 20, after you said the ship would be in New York harbor by last week. The ship was not in New York last week -- which is what I said on my show.

You were wrong about it.

No hard feelings. Everyone's glad it's there now. But...you really have been terrible about communicating true, factual information to the public in this crisis. Please let the experts and scientists speak instead.

And please nationalize the supply chain for critical medical supplies. Thanks for watching, Mr. President.

read Maddows qute, she was clearly scoffing Trumps idea that the hospital ships could help soon.

In 8 years of Obama, how many times do you suppose that Maddow scoffed at an idea of Obama's, and told her viewers that an Obama ide couldn't pan out? especially in matters this important?

And will Maddow admit she was wrong? That's part of this. You offer opinions all day every day, you're going to be wrong occasionally.

Maddow said that Hilary would win in a landslide.

Mddow said she had Trums tax records, and that was it, he was done.

Then she said Russian collusion would bring him down. The Mueller report would establish that.

Then she said obstrustion would bring him down.

And Russia, Russia, Russia!

When Obama promised that his stimulus package would keep unemployment below 6% (or was it 8%), and instead it shot over 10%, did Maddow ask Obama how he could be wrong by milllions of jobs? Did she, Bry?

If she's not the enemy of the people, she's pretty close. She really abuses the protections we afford the press.

- 5 points for spelling, looks like your head is getting ready to explode. Or did you get into Judge Jeaninne's Cardbordeaux?

How dare anyone criticize your hero?

It certainly is a good reason for that old standby........But Obama

Perhaps since you are Rachel's greatest fan you can get in the wayback machine and find out if she criticized the guy who was president 3 years ago.

And as long as you brought up Russia, the Russians tell us that Trump* had a telephone call with Putin again.

Maybe the Stable Genius is looking for election help again?????????

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Looks like the commander in chief got the Navy to get it's ass in gear and get it there ahead of expectations. :hee:
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Not aware of any.

Wonder why Jim feels compelled to attack her gender first and foremost.
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I have found that most conservatives that are anti gay are actually repressing their own dark homoerotic urges.
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read Maddows qute, she was clearly scoffing Trumps idea that the hospital ships could help soon.

In 8 years of Obama, how many times do you suppose that Maddow scoffed at an idea of Obama's, and told her viewers that an Obama ide couldn't pan out? especially in matters this important?

And will Maddow admit she was wrong? That's part of this. You offer opinions all day every day, you're going to be wrong occasionally.

Maddow said that Hilary would win in a landslide.

Mddow said she had Trums tax records, and that was it, he was done.

Then she said Russian collusion would bring him down. The Mueller report would establish that.

Then she said obstrustion would bring him down.

And Russia, Russia, Russia!

When Obama promised that his stimulus package would keep unemployment below 6% (or was it 8%), and instead it shot over 10%, did Maddow ask Obama how he could be wrong by milllions of jobs? Did she, Bry?

If she's not the enemy of the people, she's pretty close. She really abuses the protections we afford the press.

No idea. I don't watch her. Your outrage is one-sided though unless you are on here pointing out all the times Fox was wrong about Obama. Hell not long before the 20th Hannity was going on about how Covid19 was no big deal. He flipped that opinion pretty Damn fast.

She is no more news than Hannity.


TDF I put more faith in the USN getting it going faster because it was needed, with or without CIC wanting it faster.
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Hell not long before the 20th Hannity was going on about how Covid19 was no big deal. He flipped that opinion pretty Damn fast.


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you watch hannity? :spin::bl:

I have found that most conservatives that are anti gay are actually repressing their own dark homoerotic urges.
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makes sense :humpty:

I have found that most conservatives that are anti gay are actually repressing their own dark homoerotic urges.
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i’m not anti gay. i was for gay marriage long before obama
and hilary. but maddow goes on her show and tells lies about conservatives every single
night and goes unchallenged. when someone does that often enough and in a vile
enough way, at some point you’ve had enough.
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No idea. I don't watch her. Your outrage is one-sided though unless you are on here pointing out all the times Fox was wrong about Obama. Hell not long before the 20th Hannity was going on about how Covid19 was no big deal. He flipped that opinion pretty Damn fast.

She is no more news than Hannity.


TDF I put more faith in the USN getting it going faster because it was needed, with or without CIC wanting it faster.
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her and hannity are the
mirror images of each other.

pelosi is blaming trumps inaction. yet no one points out the irony that in late february, she was telling her constituents to gather together in public in large numbers. Same thing with Diblasio.

No one on the left suggests those two have blood on their hands. Why is that?
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I have found that most conservatives that are anti gay are actually repressing their own dark homoerotic urges.
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using that logic, do you feel all the liberals here have secret urges to endorse Trump?
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Also, I hope everyone who knows or has contact with Jim gets to see this post and see what kind of a person he really is. Everyone except his kids that is. They don't need to see this side of him.
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After a similarly vile post I once asked Jim something like would he be proud if his wife saw the post and he replied with something like she would agree with him.

After a similarly vile post I once asked Jim something like would he be proud if his wife saw the post and he replied with something like she would agree with him.

My wife has great disdain for Maddow, for the same exact reason she feels the same way about Hannity.. Not sure why you care to know that, but when someone goes on TV every night and insults the beliefs you hold most dear (not just disagrees with them which is fine, but attacks those who hold them), I'm not sure what you expect. Maybe a better person than I am would feel sorry for Maddow nd Hannity, I don't. They're both thoughtless and they both hate everyone who disagrees with them.

Again, we see your contempt for vile language is very politically specific.

Again, we see your contempt for vile language is very politically specific.

Really? Where is your post calling Hannity a half-beast and making fun of his sexuality?
Kettle, Pot, Black.
Back to work + home schooling. Have fun arguing today boys!

My wife has great disdain for Maddow, for the same exact reason she feels the same way about Hannity.. Not sure why you care to know that, but when someone goes on TV every night and insults the beliefs you hold most dear (not just disagrees with them which is fine, but attacks those who hold them), I'm not sure what you expect. Maybe a better person than I am would feel sorry for Maddow nd Hannity, I don't. They're both thoughtless and they both hate everyone who disagrees with them.

Again, we see your contempt for vile language is very politically specific.

I just think you are a angry petty person. Why else point out what she said? I don't feel the need to point out the things Hannity said.

You pretty much insult everyone here who disagrees with you. You constantly insult liberals.

Make any comment you want, I won't post again in this thread.

Really? Where is your post calling Hannity a half-beast and making fun of his sexuality?
Kettle, Pot, Black.

I'm not sure on what basis I'd call Hannity a half-beast. As far as I know, Hannity doesn't go out of his way to shove his sexuality in the face of his viewers. Maddow does, and does it for the purposes of showing that anyone who disagrees with her choices, Is necessarily a bigot. As opposed to, say, Trump, who has gone out of his way to shove his sexuality in my face, and I've called him a morally bankrupt reptile for doing so, a hundred times. Where's the hypocrisy, exactly?

Bryan, I like engaging you, you're fair. But when Pete claims my mother is a truck stop prostitute and Paul says very explicitly that he doesn't care what Pete said, I can say with 100% accuracy that Pauls outrage is selective, which necessarily means it's fake.

I just think you are a angry petty person. Why else point out what she said? I don't feel the need to point out the things Hannity said.

You pretty much insult everyone here who disagrees with you. You constantly insult liberals.

Make any comment you want, I won't post again in this thread.

I know you think that. You're entitled to your opinions.

In my experience when people (1) can't respond logically to what you're saying, but (2) aren't adult enough to admit you have a point, they resort instead to lobbing baseless insults. From where I sit, liberals do that a lot. They are often forced to doing so, because (again in my opinion) so many of their ideas are easily shredded by empirical results (their entire economic platform), common sense (not understanding that if you pay teenage girls to have babies, more of them will have babies), or basic decency (late=term abortions, judging people by skin color and gender).

Paul, let's re-cap...

Paul: Jim, it's wrong to use hateful language in a political forum.

Jim: Paul, Pete said my mother performs sex acts at a truck stop to support her drug habit.

Paul: I don't care what he said. But I'm holding you to a standard that I will never hold Pete to.

Jim: That seems inconsistent.

Paul: Why are you so angry?

Yup, you sure showed me.

I just think you are a angry petty person. Why else point out what she said? I don't feel the need to point out the things Hannity said.

You pretty much insult everyone here who disagrees with you. You constantly insult liberals.

Make any comment you want, I won't post again in this thread.

Total p*ssy as usual.
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I just think you are a angry petty person. Why else point out what she said? I don't feel the need to point out the things Hannity said.

You pretty much insult everyone here who disagrees with you. You constantly insult liberals.

Make any comment you want, I won't post again in this thread.

"You pretty much insult everyone here who disagrees with you.'

Nope. I've never come close to being hateful to Bryan. Because he has never done anything remotely close to deserving it.

I have had very spirited disagreements with Scott and Detbuch and TDF and John R. But always respectful.

When someone resorts to ugliness, I will often respond in kind. I don't start off that way.

I've never seen Pete have a respectful disagreement with any conservative on any topic, but you never chastise him. You only care when conservatives do it.

Dont worry My pillow guy is on the job and Fox is in full blown defend Trump mode

Mainstream media mocks White House appearance of 'My Pillow Guy' Mike Lindell despite contribution to virus fight

I doubt his efforts were what was being mocked, they are honorable. ,,but his bending of the knee on national television was the reason his appearance was mocked and trumps desire for him to run as Gov of Minnesota , after is recent issue with the sitting governor did not go un noticed




God gave us grace on November 8, 2016, to change the course we were on," the pro-Trump businessman said. "God had been taken out of our schools and lives, a nation had turned its back on God. I encourage you to use this time at home to get back in the word. Read our Bible and spend time with our families."With our great president, vice president and this administration and all the great people in this country praying daily, we will get through this and get back to a place that’s stronger and safer than ever.”




But Rachel is so horrible for suggesting to Trump Stop with the arbitrary deadlines

Dont worry My pillow guy is on the job and Fox is in full blown defend Trump mode

Mainstream media mocks White House appearance of 'My Pillow Guy' Mike Lindell despite contribution to virus fight

I doubt his efforts were what was being mocked, they are honorable. ,,but his bending of the knee on national television was the reason his appearance was mocked and trumps desire for him to run as Gov of Minnesota , after is recent issue with the sitting governor did not go un noticed


God gave us grace on November 8, 2016, to change the course we were on," the pro-Trump businessman said. "God had been taken out of our schools and lives, a nation had turned its back on God. I encourage you to use this time at home to get back in the word. Read our Bible and spend time with our families."With our great president, vice president and this administration and all the great people in this country praying daily, we will get through this and get back to a place that’s stronger and safer than ever.”


But Rachel is so horrible for suggesting to Trump Stop with the arbitrary deadlines

"I doubt his efforts were what was being mocked"

Agreed.

"his bending of the knee on national television was the reason"

Why? Let's talk about that for a second. Why is that a reason for mockery? For tens of millions of Americans, faith is one of the most important things in their lives, so why do those who don't feel that why, need to mock those who do?

Every speck of data shows that people of faith identify as being happier, being more charitable, get divorced less often, commit less crime. Maybe instead of mocking faith non stop, your side should be asking, why does faith motivate people to do so much good? And why would a major political party be doing everything it can, to turn people away from faith?

"But Rachel is so horrible for suggesting to Trump Stop with the arbitrary deadlines"

No one said that. She is horrible for suggesting nightly, that bigotry is the only reason why anyone can disagree with her on anything.

Is it crazy for the My Pillow guy to feel like Obama attacked faith? Obama tried to force Christian business owners to provide elective abortions to employees, he was successfully sued multiple times for trampling on the religious freedoms of christians. That happened.

I won't post again in this thread.



yes you will :rotf2:

and when trump said the ship would be in NYC this week, Maddow called that “nonsense.”.
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and when trump said the ship would be in NYC this week, Maddow called that “nonsense.”.
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Let the hate flow through your veins. Inhale... exhale....
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and when trump said the ship would be in NYC this week, Maddow called that “nonsense.”.
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No he said it would be there last week. They were both wrong. So was the Navy. Who gives a bleep?
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No he said it would be there last week. They were both wrong. So was the Navy. Who gives a bleep?
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I don't even know what week it is anymore :hihi:

"I doubt his efforts were what was being mocked"

Agreed.

"his bending of the knee on national television was the reason"

Why? Let's talk about that for a second. Why is that a reason for mockery? For tens of millions of Americans, faith is one of the most important things in their lives, so why do those who don't feel that why, need to mock those who do?

Every speck of data shows that people of faith identify as being happier, being more charitable, get divorced less often, commit less crime. Maybe instead of mocking faith non stop, your side should be asking, why does faith motivate people to do so much good? And why would a major political party be doing everything it can, to turn people away from faith?

"But Rachel is so horrible for suggesting to Trump Stop with the arbitrary deadlines"

No one said that. She is horrible for suggesting nightly, that bigotry is the only reason why anyone can disagree with her on anything.

Is it crazy for the My Pillow guy to feel like Obama attacked faith? Obama tried to force Christian business owners to provide elective abortions to employees, he was successfully sued multiple times for trampling on the religious freedoms of christians. That happened.


I have no issue with people of faith , I do take issue with people some how twisting trumps election as providence and he is Gods chosen one..

And the Michigan angle a bit inappropriate

Mr Pillow should invent a new pillow with an absorbent case that the left can cry into for the next four years
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I have no issue with people of faith , I do take issue with people some how twisting trumps election as providence and he is Gods chosen one..

And the Michigan angle a bit inappropriate

Calling Trump the chosen one is a stretch all right. BUt from the perspective of the faithful, he was preferable to the alternative.

Calling Trump the chosen one is a stretch all right. BUt from the perspective of the faithful, he was preferable to the alternative.

Not true. My mom is an Evangelical and finds it hard to fathom that a Christian would vote for him. He is the antithesis of a Christian in her view and she voted for Republicans for most of her life. I have many Evangelical friends from home in central PA who feel the same way. There are tens of millions of faithful who find him vile and didn't vote for him. He may pander to a certain sect of faithful but you don't have the authority to give "the perspective of the faithful." Given your recent vile comments in here though I can see why you think that.
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Not true. My mom is an Evangelical and finds it hard to fathom that a Christian would vote for him. He is the antithesis of a Christian in her view and she voted for Republicans for most of her life. I have many Evangelical friends from home in central PA who feel the same way. There are tens of millions of faithful who find him vile and didn't vote for him. He may pander to a certain sect of faithful but you don't have the authority to give "the perspective of the faithful." Given your recent vile comments in here though I can see why you think that.
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Thanks for sharing your personal perspective Zimmy but I think you are mistaken.
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Not true. My mom is an Evangelical and finds it hard to fathom that a Christian would vote for him. He is the antithesis of a Christian in her view and she voted for Republicans for most of her life. I have many Evangelical friends from home in central PA who feel the same way. There are tens of millions of faithful who find him vile and didn't vote for him. He may pander to a certain sect of faithful but you don't have the authority to give "the perspective of the faithful." Given your recent vile comments in here though I can see why you think that.
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your mom is one person. there are tens and tens of millions of evangelicals.

earth to you, evangelicals turned out for him. not for the way he chooses to live, but for the policies he endorses. god almighty, you take a poll of the people you know, and that means that evangelicals didn’t vote for trump? more accurately, they voted for Pence.
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Thanks for sharing your personal perspective Zimmy but I think you are mistaken.
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Mistaken bout which part? That Jim doesn't have the authority to speak for "the faithful?" That I have a mom? 10's of millions of faithful voted against Trump? I bet you are thinking that he meant a majority of the faithful, which would be true.

Not true. My mom is an Evangelical and finds it hard to fathom that a Christian would vote for him. He is the antithesis of a Christian in her view and she voted for Republicans for most of her life. I have many Evangelical friends from home in central PA who feel the same way. There are tens of millions of faithful who find him vile and didn't vote for him. He may pander to a certain sect of faithful but you don't have the authority to give "the perspective of the faithful." Given your recent vile comments in here though I can see why you think that.
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the uber liberal washington post says that 80% of white evangelicals voted for trump. but you can dispute that because of your mom. very scientific.

the left hates christians, christianity, and everything it stands for.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/11/09/exit-polls-show-white-evangelicals-voted-overwhelmingly-for-donald-trump/
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Mistaken bout which part? That Jim doesn't have the authority to speak for "the faithful?" That I have a mom? 10's of millions of faithful voted against Trump? I bet you are thinking that he meant a majority of the faithful, which would be true.

i didn’t speak for the faithful. i said they voted for trump. because they did. you’re denying that evangelicals went for trump? on what basis would they vote for Hilary?

i’m really in your head, huh? take a breath and relax.

I never claimed your mom voted for him, so i can’t imagine what you thought you were referring to.

I said the faithful voted for trump. did you really interpret that as my saying that 100% voted for him with no exceptions?

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your mom is one person. there are tens and tens of millions of evangelicals.

earth to you, evangelicals turned out for him. not for the way he chooses to live, but for the policies he endorses. god almighty, you take a poll of the people you know, and that means that evangelicals didn’t vote for trump? more accurately, they voted for Pence.
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No, you said "but from the perspective of the faithful." The ones who voted for him are not "the faithful" they are some of them. You say such garbage in here it is ridiculous.

No, you said "but from the perspective of the faithful." The ones who voted for him are not "the faithful" they are some of them. You say such garbage in here it is ridiculous.

80% of evangelicals voted for the guy, but somehow it’s wrong if i say they support him. gotcha.

if i said “blacks chose hilary”, would
you disagree?

the left is getting way more secular. that’s their choice. that choice has consequences.
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80% of evangelicals voted for the guy, but somehow it’s wrong if i say they support him. gotcha.

if i said “blacks chose hilary”, would
you disagree?

the left is getting way more secular. that’s their choice. that choice has consequences.
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Oh sorry. My bad. I read the words "faithful." My computer is showing different words than yours apparently.

Oh sorry. My bad. I read the words "faithful." My computer is showing different words than yours apparently.

apparently...."faithful" is one word :huh:

Oh sorry. My bad. I read the words "faithful." My computer is showing different words than yours apparently.

ok. show me data, any data, which suggests that genuinely religious people, didn’t go for Trump/Pence in 2016.

your observations of 5 people you know, are not statistically significant. the evangelicals are a huge, huge group. and 80% voted for trump.
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Thanks for sharing your personal perspective Zimmy but I think you are mistaken.
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About the tens of millions of faithful that didn’t vote for him. I am doubtful as to the validity of these numbers. Do you have a link?
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About the tens of millions of faithful that didn’t vote for him. I am doubtful as to the validity of these numbers. Do you have a link?
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Two points before I retreat back into Home School and Telework land.... >20 million (10's of millions ) of 'faithful' is reasonable.

1. Faithful does not mean religious, I am sure many are faithful (i.e. believe in a god without supporting a specific religion)

2. 65 million people voted against trump, 62 million for trump in 2016 total, 327 million total population, just for context.

There are 90-100 million Evangelicals (per google)
70 million Catholics
7.5 million Jews

So lets say 170 million total in these three categories.

If 60% of those voted, and 80% voted for Trump (likely lower for Jewish, and perhaps Catholic, as I saw an article where in 2020 only 35% were planning to vote for Trump and up to 54% were 'open to it') (170 *0.6 *0.2) = 20 million. That is not counting the faithful of other faiths and non-denominational.

If 50% of Catholics voted, and 60% voted for Trump (being conservative I think, might be lower), that is 14 million right there.....

Two points before I retreat back into Home School and Telework land.... >20 million (10's of millions ) of 'faithful' is reasonable.

1. Faithful does not mean religious, I am sure many are faithful (i.e. believe in a god without supporting a specific religion)

2. 65 million people voted against trump, 62 million for trump in 2016 total, 327 million total population, just for context.

There are 90-100 million Evangelicals (per google)
70 million Catholics
7.5 million Jews

So lets say 170 million total in these three categories.

If 60% of those voted, and 80% voted for Trump (likely lower for Jewish, and perhaps Catholic, as I saw an article where in 2020 only 35% were planning to vote for Trump and up to 54% were 'open to it') (170 *0.6 *0.2) = 20 million. That is not counting the faithful of other faiths and non-denominational.

In this context I believe Zimmy meant religious,but Icant be sure.
To vote for a candidate does not necessarily indicate one is voting “against” another. Perhaps a link would provide more clarity rather than opinion and conjecture. A thoughtful response regardless of loosely gathered thoughts and biased research which typically flows from the left.
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In this context I believe Zimmy meant religious,but Icant be sure.
To vote for a candidate does not necessarily indicate one is voting “against” another. Perhaps a link would provide more clarity rather than opinion and conjecture. A thoughtful response regardless of loosely gathered thoughts and biased research which typically flows from the left.
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In the article they acknowledge the 80% of white born again evangelicals voted for trump,.



https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/

Two points before I retreat back into Home School and Telework land.... >20 million (10's of millions ) of 'faithful' is reasonable.

1. Faithful does not mean religious, I am sure many are faithful (i.e. believe in a god without supporting a specific religion)

2. 65 million people voted against trump, 62 million for trump in 2016 total, 327 million total population, just for context.

There are 90-100 million Evangelicals (per google)
70 million Catholics
7.5 million Jews

So lets say 170 million total in these three categories.

If 60% of those voted, and 80% voted for Trump (likely lower for Jewish, and perhaps Catholic, as I saw an article where in 2020 only 35% were planning to vote for Trump and up to 54% were 'open to it') (170 *0.6 *0.2) = 20 million. That is not counting the faithful of other faiths and non-denominational.

If 50% of Catholics voted, and 60% voted for Trump (being conservative I think, might be lower), that is 14 million right there.....

i think as you stated, you were being generous with catholics for trump.

But when i say faithful, i don’t mean people who call themselves catholic but go to church 4 times a year and are pro choice. i mean religious people who take their faith and convictions seriously. a lot of people who identify as catholic, are very casual about it. evangelicals are usually more devout and serious.

this group, which i call “the faithful” because they actually try to stay faithful to that which they profess to believe, went big for trump. there’s no way that’s not true.

catholics and jews as a group, are likely to vote for a candidate whose policies are contrary to their faith ( today’s national democratic platform is totally incompatible with catholicism). evangelicals are a lot less likely to do so.
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The bottom line Trump is playing the religious right and they are playing him they clearly understand to use his vanity shower him in praise make him an unaware tool of God. To get what they want. These are the same people who swindle millions of dollars from followers sell fake cures and speak in tounge, yet live lavish lifestyles big houses jets , and Tump fits right in

The bottom line Trump is playing the religious right and they are playing him they clearly understand to use his vanity shower him in praise make him an unaware tool of God. To get what they want. These are the same people who swindle millions of dollars from followers sell fake cures and speak in tounge, yet live lavish lifestyles big houses jets , and Tump fits right in

Both sides pander Wayne. But I think you know that. Why do you think Bernie voted against the Brady Bill?
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The bottom line Trump is playing the religious right and they are playing him they clearly understand to use his vanity shower him in praise make him an unaware tool of God. To get what they want. These are the same people who swindle millions of dollars from followers sell fake cures and speak in tounge, yet live lavish lifestyles big houses jets , and Tump fits right in

He's doing what the religious right wants him to do. We get conservative judges and the ability to practice our religion without the feds telling us we need to defy our beliefs. In return, he gets our votes.

Why is that one side "playing" the other?

You vote for democrats who promise your union more than the Republicans. Why is that different? Does that mean you're getting "played" too?

Lemme guess...it's OK when unions and democrats work together, but sinister when evangelicals and republicans work together.

I can make a very great argument that the unions are getting played, because those pensions can never be paid for (just do the math), and when they go bankrupt, the democrats who lied to you will be retired in Grand Cayman. And they won't give a sh*t about the promises they made to you 30 years prior.

About the tens of millions of faithful that didn’t vote for him. I am doubtful as to the validity of these numbers. Do you have a link?
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To keep it simple and not get into the semantics of who gets to qualify as faithful: 138 million voted 75% identified as Catholic, Protestant, or Jewish. 40% of those voters voted for Hillary.
138x0.75x0.4= 41.4 million
Had Jim said a majority voted for Trump I wouldn't have had anything to say, but his blanket statement is a representative of co opting of religion by some on the right that is bogus. Maybe Jim just meant Trump won a majority of the faithful. Maybe given the way he started this thread he should look into what it means to be faithful.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/
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To keep it simple and not get into the semantics of who gets to qualify as faithful: 138 million voted 75% identified as Catholic, Protestant, or Jewish. 40% of those voters voted for Hillary.
138x0.75x0.4= 41.4 million
Had Jim said a majority voted for Trump I wouldn't have had anything to say, but his blanket statement is a representative of co opting of religion by some on the right that is bogus. Maybe Jim just meant Trump won a majority of the faithful. Maybe given the way he started this thread he should look into what it means to be faithful.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/
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I define "faithful" as a religious person (any religion) whose religious beliefs hold real value to him, someone actually dedicated to their religious beliefs. Someone who identifies as Catholic but who goes to church twice a year, doesn't do any volunteer work, and thinks the church is wrong on abortion, is not someone I'd consider to be faithful.

Among Christian faithful, Trump won big. Among casual Catholics and Jews, Hilary did great.

I'm very sorry if you don't like those results, but they were the results. Obviously they were the results. No Christian would ever truly believe Trump is a righteous person. But the policies he enacts, are far more in line with Judeo-Christian principles, than those of Hilary, it's not even close. Biden will have the same problem, but he'll make up for it with groups that lean left.

He's doing what the religious right wants him to do. We get conservative judges and the ability to practice our religion without the feds telling us we need to defy our beliefs. In return, he gets our votes.

Why is that one side "playing" the other?

You vote for democrats who promise your union more than the Republicans. Why is that different? Does that mean you're getting "played" too?

Lemme guess...it's OK when unions and democrats work together, but sinister when evangelicals and republicans work together.




Trump sees gun stores and ranges essential yet abortion services in red states not deemed essential ?? Trump administration won’t reopen Obamacare enrollment for uninsured as coronavirus spreads why ?

I can make a very great argument that the unions are getting played, because those pensions can never be paid for (just do the math), and when they go bankrupt, the democrats who lied to you will be retired in Grand Cayman. And they won't give a sh*t about the promises they made to you 30 years prior.



your trapped in your imaginary attacks on religious liberties..

being against religious discriminatory actions are not attacks on religion however its clear who are on the attack

Conservatives Are Weaponizing “Religious Liberty” to Allow Institutions to Discriminate

In 2016, for the second year in a row, more than 100 anti-equality bills targeting LGBT people were introduced in state legislatures, many of them described as measures to protect religious liberty. This flood of anti-LGBT and “religious liberty” legislation is not the result of isolated local efforts. It is part of a larger campaign by Religious Right groups to resist and reverse advances toward equality for LGBT Americans by portraying equality as inherently incompatible with religious freedom.



comparing union to whats going on see above again making comparisons that are not remotely the same ... unions count as 13 % of the American work force but get 100% of your Attention :btu:


yet evangelical percentage of the population at 25.4 are getting 100% of Trump's attentions , the rest are on the sidelines watching

your trapped in your imaginary attacks on religious liberties..

being against religious discriminatory actions are not attacks on religion however its clear who are on the attack

Conservatives Are Weaponizing “Religious Liberty” to Allow Institutions to Discriminate

In 2016, for the second year in a row, more than 100 anti-equality bills targeting LGBT people were introduced in state legislatures, many of them described as measures to protect religious liberty. This flood of anti-LGBT and “religious liberty” legislation is not the result of isolated local efforts. It is part of a larger campaign by Religious Right groups to resist and reverse advances toward equality for LGBT Americans by portraying equality as inherently incompatible with religious freedom.



comparing union to whats going on see above again making comparisons that are not remotely the same ... unions count as 13 % of the American work force but get 100% of your Attention :btu:


yet evangelical percentage of the population at 25.4 are getting 100% of Trump's attentions , the rest are on the sidelines watching

"your trapped in your imaginary attacks on religious liberties.. "

Obama was successfully sued by the owners of Hobby Lobby, as well as the Little Sisters of The Poor, because Obama tried to force them to abandon their religious beliefs. They sued, and they won. So if you want to recant your ignorant statement, now would be a good time.

Hey, I was pro gay marriage way, way before Obama and Hilary, and I bet I was before you as well. I agree that churches need to re-think their positions on gay marriage. You didn't post any links so I don't know what the bills were. Whle I support gay marriage, I also support the right of a Christian baker to not participate in a gay wedding if he chooses not to. The First Amendment is pretty clear.

" comparing union to whats going on see above again making comparisons that are not remotely the same '

right. So Trump is playing the Christians, but democrats aren't playing the unions. You say so!

"unions count as 13 % of the American work force "

But are 100% of the reason why CT and IL are on the verge of bankruptcy. 100%.

"but get 100% of your Attention "

Gibberish.

But the policies he enacts, are far more in line with Judeo-Christian principles, than those of Hilary, it's not even close.

That is a selective and I will say warped opinion based what my Bible says.
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I don't watch her. I don't agree with much of what she says, or with much in this thread, for that matter...

But she gets a potential pass for being a nut about fishing, as are many of us here... I would still fish with her and likely enjoy it as I find it much easier to discuss differences around common ground....

Everyone needs to lighten up here, IMO...

I don't watch her. I don't agree with much of what she says, or with much in this thread, for that matter...

But she gets a potential pass for being a nut about fishing, as are many of us here... I would still fish with her and likely enjoy it as I find it much easier to discuss differences around common ground....

Everyone needs to lighten up here, IMO...

Well said. I am getting out of here ☠️
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That is a selective and I will say warped opinion based what my Bible says.
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In my experience, when liberals lob baseless insults with zero evidence, it means they know they've lost the debate.

If you'd like to tell me how anyone would conclude that the liberal agenda is more closely aligned with judeo-Christian principles than the conservative agenda, I'd be interested to her it.

Please note, I'm not saying Trump is a better Christian than Hilary. I am saying his agenda is more Christian friendly. Remember Hilary's deplorables rant, she was speaking, in part, of evangelicals and what they believe.

I don't watch her. I don't agree with much of what she says, or with much in this thread, for that matter...

But she gets a potential pass for being a nut about fishing, as are many of us here... I would still fish with her and likely enjoy it as I find it much easier to discuss differences around common ground....

Everyone needs to lighten up here, IMO...
Who are the two guys in the picture?




:hidin:
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Fun fact: Jesus refused to tend to the lepers until they pledged allegiance to him and preemptively expressed their gratitude.

Who are the two guys in the picture?




:hidin:
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Not sure, but I think the one with the dark hair used to play left tackle for the Jets
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All religions su*ck, the head count over religion is millions and I find the catholic faith especially hypocritical. How many lives have been ruined by catholic priests, faithfully practicing what?

All religions su*ck,



not all..this is foolish

not all..this is foolish

Pick a century, pick a religion, pick a “god”, they have all murdered millions in the name of their “faith” or their “god” being the one and only, they all su*ck, just to varying degrees of death in the name of.
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How many deaths have been caused by religion? Here's a list of religiously motivated wars and genocides and their death tolls. Let me know if I missed any!
The Crusades: 6,000,000
Thirty Years War: 11,500,000
French Wars of Religion: 4,000,000
Second Sudanese Civil War: 2,000,000
Lebanese Civil War: 250,000
Muslim Conquests of India: 80,000,000
Congolese Genocide (King Leopold II): 13,000,000
Armenian Genocide: 1,500,000
Rwandan Genocide: 800,000
Eighty Years' War: 1,000,000
Nigerian Civil War: 1,000,000
Great Peasants' Revolt: 250,000
First Sudanese Civil War: 1,000,000
Jewish Diaspora (Not Including the Holocaust): 1,000,000
The Holocaust (Jewish and Homosexual Deaths): 6,500,000
Islamic Terrorism Since 2000: 150,000
Iraq War: 500,000
US Western Expansion (Justified by "Manifest Destiny"):20,000,000
Atlantic Slave Trade (Justified by Christianity): 14,000,000
Aztec Human Sacrifice: 80,000
AIDS deaths in Africa largely due to opposition to condoms: 30,000,000
Spanish Inquisition: 5,000
TOTAL: 195,035,000 deaths in the name of religion.

Rest my case, although that doesn’t even include the terrorists, who have added to it in the name of, again they all su*ck!

Pick a century, pick a religion, pick a “god”, they have all murdered millions in the name of their “faith” or their “god” being the one and only, they all su*ck, just to varying degrees of death in the name of.
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you just need something to bitch about...

you just need something to bitch about...

🧀
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The irreverent core are now the thread police, I think you both need to hold hands and attend services together this weekend, what’s the problem; special warm thoughts from your alter boy youth?

You complain a lot
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I get it, my bringing up catholic priests made your butt checks tighten out of shear panic from your youth, I understand you can’t debate the value of religion in general. Go find a soft seat and take some deep breaths.

Pick a century, pick a religion, pick a “god”, they have all murdered millions in the name of their “faith” or their “god” being the one and only, they all su*ck, just to varying degrees of death in the name of.
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show me millions murdered by jews or christians in this last couple of centuries please?

it’s something, to tell people
that the thing they might hold
more dear to them than anything, su*ks. Very ignorant. Stop by a catholic hospital sometime, or a catholic food bank, or a catholic school where the staff work for peanuts, and tell the heroic volunteers that it all su*cks.


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I get it, my bringing up catholic priests made your butt checks tighten out of shear panic from your youth, I understand you can’t debate the value of religion in general. Go find a soft seat and take some deep breaths.

you’re the one who can no longer debate anything. TDS has you. Read your posts man, how much respect do you show for those who disagree with you. your tone went off the deep end in the last week, you’re regurgitating nonsensical MSNBC talking points.
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You complain a lot
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you guys did it. you broke his brain.
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you’re the one who can no longer debate anything. TDS has you. Read your posts man, how much respect do you show for those who disagree with you. your tone went off the deep end in the last week, you’re regurgitating nonsensical MSNBC talking points.
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What does my comment have to do with Trump and it’s about time religions start making up for all the lives taken throughout the centuries and as you know the Catholic Church’s dark past isn’t all the far in the past. I didn’t say anyones faith su*cks, the point was all religions su*ck for all the lives taken in the name of this god or that god, or the correct god. My older sister is an episcopal minister, so I get that faith is important to some, that wasn’t my point.

Touchy subject, you guys love to debate religion as it applies to this administration and bitch we do not but complain about Trump, I was stepping outside the Trump box to make a general statement. While efforts today are worthy, why do the need to be made in the name of any religion, how about people that can step forward, like so many admirable sports figures or public and private sector CEO’s with great charities.

^^^^this is juvenile

Clinching butt checks on discussion of Catholic priests back door antics you too must have been an alter boy? That may explain all the anger from you three.

What does my comment have to do with Trump and it’s about time religions start making up for all the lives taken throughout the centuries and as you know the Catholic Church’s dark past isn’t all the far in the past. I didn’t say anyones faith su*cks, the point was all religions su*ck for all the lives taken in the name of this god or that god, or the correct god. My older sister is an episcopal minister, so I get that faith is important to some, that wasn’t my point.

Touchy subject, you guys love to debate religion as it applies to this administration and bitch we do not but complain about Trump, I was stepping outside the Trump box to make a general statement. While efforts today are worthy, why do the need to be made in the name of any religion, how about people that can step forward, like so many admirable sports figures or public and private sector CEO’s with great charities.

"it’s about time religions start making up for all the lives taken throughout the centuries "

Using that logic, you are personally responsible for what your ancestors did 4,5 generations ago? Must be nice to be the only person on the planet to come from lineage that's as innocent as a newborn kitten.

Catholics are a huge group of people, and like any large group, there are some really bad apples. You are enthusiastically pointing that out. But there are millions of Catholics who are inspired by their faith, to spend every waking moment helping others, while you and I are free to indulge ourselves with things like golf and fishing and complaining on the internet. As I said, you come across as fairly ignorant and incorrect on the subject, so why not spend a day at a Catholic charity to see firsthand the people you are bashing, see if you feel the same way afterwards.

"the Catholic Church’s dark past isn’t all the far in the past"

If you are talking about the homosexual predation, obviously you're correct. What fascinates me, is that we see the same predation elsewhere - in other religions, public schools, and for sure in the healthcare field, yet 90% of the media coverage focuses on the abuse in Catholicism. It's almost as if there's some kind of agenda, not sure whey else everyone else gets a pass. But I'm not denying that a small number of people in the Catholic church absolutely blew this problem.


"I didn’t say anyones faith su*cks, the point was all religions su*ck'

Not seeing the difference. And again, I don't see any large-scale mass murder committed by Jews of Christians in the last few centuries. What I see, is that Christianity was irrefutably the driving force to end slavery, and it was absolutely the driving force to end segregation. Is it too much to ask that if you highlight the flaws, maybe you could dedicate a syllable or two to the good done? And the benefits provided?

"I was stepping outside the Trump box to make a general statement'

And in my opinion, it was a bigoted, thoughtless statement.

Your tone has changed. It started a week ago with a f-bomb laced tirade aimed at me. You sound warped and frustrated.

"While efforts today are worthy"

I agree...

"why do they need to be made in the name of any religion"

That question is too big for me. Obviously they don't need to be rooted in religion, there are plenty of agnostics who are wonderful people. But the fact is, faith inspires many people to do great things.

Look at it this way...if person A really believes that there is no God, no afterlife...and person B believes that there is a God and a Heaven and that life is essentially an audition to get into heaven...is it surprising that this faith would motivate people to do more good, than they might otherwise do?

The fight to end slavery and segregation didn't necessarily have to originate with Judeo-Christian principles. But nevertheless, that's where it originated.

It's not touchy to me, faith isn't for everyone and I don't pretend that what works for me is what's best for anyone else. But it's a good idea to get the truth out there, not just one-sided bashing.

My tone hasn’t changed, I love the holier than thou attitude of you three omigos, thought I’d take a page out of the SD playbook and taunt you where it might hit home. Flipping back to Trump and religion and hypocrisy, so someone so vile, someone breaking so many of the precious Ten Commandments at will, is supported by good religions people why? That is blatant hypocrisy.

show me millions murdered by jews or christians in this last couple of centuries please?




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If I said show me were Biden sexually assaulted some one since the 90s

Would that eliminate his guilt or excuse his behavior ,,,,

You evangelist just steal money pay no taxes they just evolved


And try not taking all religion sucks to all who are religious suck.

But that's hard for you seeing you think religion is under attack..

If I said show me were Biden sexually assaulted some one since the 90s

Would that eliminate his guilt or excuse his behavior ,,,,

You evangelist just steal money pay no taxes they just evolved


And try not taking all religion sucks to all who are religious suck.

But that's hard for you seeing you think religion is under attack..

Too deep for them. They live in the but Obama, but Joe, but Hillary and but Hunter world, but nothing in the religions past matters, more hypocrisy.

I am not religious at all. Although the dopey GS has no problem appointing me as such. I am not against any of them and believe they all have an equal place on the globe. I have gone out of my way to criticize Catholics in the past as they provide plenty of fodder. Since my son started attending BC High we started to support a scholarship fund for inner city children who,otherwise would not get an opportunity at private education. The Catholic Church has moved this forward through the years and the stories told by the students about the difference this made in their lives makes me ashamed that I had previously bashed them. It still won’t get me to church though.
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My tone hasn’t changed, I love the holier than thou attitude of you three omigos, thought I’d take a page out of the SD playbook and taunt you where it might hit home. Flipping back to Trump and religion and hypocrisy, so someone so vile, someone breaking so many of the precious Ten Commandments at will, is supported by good religions people why? That is blatant hypocrisy.

"My tone hasn’t changed"

well, you responded to me last week with a profanity-laced rant that had several f-bombs in it. I have never seen you do that before. If that's routine for you, then I guess your tone hasn't changed, in which case I apologize. If that was a new low for you, which I still believe it was, than your tone did change.

I'm not holier-than-thou, I can be as big of a jerk as anyone. I don't pretend otherwise. I was pointing out that from where I sit, your posts are getting angrier and more bitter. I never said or meant to imply that I'm better than that.

If I said show me were Biden sexually assaulted some one since the 90s

Would that eliminate his guilt or excuse his behavior ,,,,

You evangelist just steal money pay no taxes they just evolved


And try not taking all religion sucks to all who are religious suck.

But that's hard for you seeing you think religion is under attack..

You need to put some thought into these things...

I never said Biden assaulted anyone. What I said (and I am irrefutably correct) is that in Kavanaugh's case, the mere accusation was enough for Democrats to conclude Kavanaugh was guilty. But they aren't applying that same standard to Biden. If you thought Kavanaugh was guilty, there's no conceivable reason to not think Biden is just as guilty, other than politics.

If being accused of assault means that Kavanaugh isn't fit to be a judge, than why isn't being accused of assault reason to conclude Biden isn't fit to be POTUS? I would just love to hear you respond to that.

"You evangelist just steal money "

That's just brilliant. Churches take voluntary donations. Public unions confiscate money.

"seeing you think religion is under attack"

See if you can answer this. When Obama was president, there was a tr#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g company that shipped a lot of booze. There were Muslim truck drivers who didn't want to ship booze because of their religious beliefs, and the company tried to fire them. Obama's labor department stopped the company from firing them, saying that the Muslim truck drivers cannot be forced to abandon their religious beliefs on the job.

But at the same time, Obama would not offer that same protection to Christian bakers. How come?

I await your answer...

Wayne, I think about things before I form my opinions. I don't blindly believe what one side or the other tells me. The sooner you understand that, the sooner you'll stop embarrassing yourself with nonsensical posts like this. I can go on all day with examples of religions, or certain religions to be more accurate, having their rights trampled.

Here on this board, I thik it was you who said that the My Pillow guy was mocked for bringing religion into the discussion. Why?

In one post you say explicitly that talking about religion is reason to mock a guy (a recovering addict who only manufactures here in America and who is voluntarily making 50,000 PPE masks A DAY), then here you deny religion is under attack. Can't have it both ways.

Clinching butt checks



:spin:

you three omigos,

.

aye...yay...yay-yay

My tone hasn’t changed,.



how would you know?

No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.

For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5MqXzzGAbM

:spin:

Spell check provided MRI2 his opening, good to know the irrelevant core is hard at work in this time of need.

:spin:

Pun intended on 'clenching butt cheeks?'

Spell check provided MRI2 his opening, good to know the irrelevant core is hard at work in this time of need.

clenching butt check omigo :hihi:


ya know...when bush would occasionally mispronouncificate a word, he was labeled an idiot...and he didn't have spell check or the ability to review his words before they left his mouth

clenching butt check omigo :hihi:


ya know...when bush would occasionally mispronouncificate a word, he was labeled an idiot...and he didn't have spell check or the ability to review his words before they left his mouth

I don’t like wearing my readers and spell check does it’s thing, but who among us missed the meaning? If you are missing the meaning I worry about your cognitive ability, but when it comes to showing how irrelevant you can be, you are the shining star on this board; next to SD of course. Your MRI2 you need to try harder!
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You need to put some thought into these things...

I never said Biden assaulted anyone. What I said (and I am irrefutably correct) is that in Kavanaugh's case, the mere accusation was enough for Democrats to conclude Kavanaugh was guilty. But they aren't applying that same standard to Biden. If you thought Kavanaugh was guilty, there's no conceivable reason to not think Biden is just as guilty, other than politics.

If being accused of assault means that Kavanaugh isn't fit to be a judge, than why isn't being accused of assault reason to conclude Biden isn't fit to be POTUS? I would just love to hear you respond to that.

"You evangelist just steal money "

That's just brilliant. Churches take voluntary donations. Public unions confiscate money.

"seeing you think religion is under attack"

See if you can answer this. When Obama was president, there was a tr#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g company that shipped a lot of booze. There were Muslim truck drivers who didn't want to ship booze because of their religious beliefs, and the company tried to fire them. Obama's labor department stopped the company from firing them, saying that the Muslim truck drivers cannot be forced to abandon their religious beliefs on the job.

But at the same time, Obama would not offer that same protection to Christian bakers. How come?

I await your answer...

Wayne, I think about things before I form my opinions. I don't blindly believe what one side or the other tells me. The sooner you understand that, the sooner you'll stop embarrassing yourself with nonsensical posts like this. I can go on all day with examples of religions, or certain religions to be more accurate, having their rights trampled.

Here on this board, I thik it was you who said that the My Pillow guy was mocked for bringing religion into the discussion. Why?

In one post you say explicitly that talking about religion is reason to mock a guy (a recovering addict who only manufactures here in America and who is voluntarily making 50,000 PPE masks A DAY), then here you deny religion is under attack. Can't have it both ways.


I am not having it both ways because attacks on religion isn't occurring ... Like i said you see being against discrimination as being an attack on religion ... that's your logic not mine

I am not having it both ways because attacks on religion isn't occurring ... Like i said you see being against discrimination as being an attack on religion ... that's your logic not mine

You are trying to have it both ways, you attacked religion, and then said religion isn't under attack.

"attacks on religion isn't occurring '

Then explain why Obama offered Muslims protections that he denied to Christians? Why did Hobby Lobby and Little Sisters of the Poor have to successfully sue Obama, to prevent him from trampling on their rights? Why are you OK with mocking the My Pillow guy for bringing up religion?

I don’t like wearing my readers and spell check does it’s thing, but who among us missed the meaning? If you are missing the meaning I worry about your cognitive ability, but when it comes to showing how irrelevant you can be, you are the shining star on this board; next to SD of course. Your MRI2 you need to try harder!
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I hope you continue to make a fool of yourself...it amuses me:biglaugh:

Right back at you, I smile every time you put yet another irrelevant post up, keep up the good work, I need the diversion.

Right back at you, I smile every time you put yet another irrelevant post up, keep up the good work, I need the diversion.

see....I'm glad it makes you smile in your time of need

FWIW