And you whined about Obama, do you think things are hammer ready now?

The US is now playing the 2008 playbook on a grand scale -- bailout, stimulus, Fed printing trillions of cash and lending it to avoid bankruptcy. Apparently "infrastructure stimulus" is next. We're sort of like a 2 year old with a hammer, to which everything looks like a nail.

The danger in what we are doing is likewise that this becomes enshrined as standard pandemic policy for the next time -- shut down the whole economy, print rivers of cash, wait for technology to save us.

This episode should be regarded as what not to do, so we have a robust and fast-moving public health response that avoids a shutdown.

That is why we have a federal government.

It's not a Daily Reality TV show

Your contribution is noteworthy Bitchslappedboy.
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MRI1
I thought the point of electing someone with “business experience” was that they would be decisive and efficient. Instead we get bureaucracy, incompetence, and corruption.

Let’s stick with someone who knows how the government actually works in November.
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We seem to have an approach that says let private business step up, let the states figure it out. The lack of a unified federal strategy is a serious problem here. I don’t know if this is just crackpot ideology or sheer incompetence, perhaps it’s a cocktail of both.

Today Trump is trying to bully 3M. We are rudderless.
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We seem to have an approach that says let private business step up, let the states figure it out. The lack of a unified federal strategy is a serious problem here. I don’t know if this is just crackpot ideology or sheer incompetence, perhaps it’s a cocktail of both.

Today Trump is trying to bully 3M. We are rudderless.
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“let the states figure it out”.

so the cdc and the army corps of engineers aren’t doing anything. very accurate.

3m is denying masks to the state of FL and selling them to foreign countries. if that’s fine with you, good for you. i want and expect my president to be furious at that.

so in the same paragraph you blame the feds for not doing anything, and also blame the executive branch for trying to help get facemasks for hospital workers in FL.

Almost in the same sentence, you say Trump is doing nothing, and also doing too much.

Tell us more.
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A unified strategy (Federal, state and local, and private sector) was already in place as of 4-19-2006: Pandemic Influenza Preparedness Response, and Recovery Guide for Critical Infrastructure and Key Resources.

But the state, local, and private sectors clearly had not lived up to the strategy guidelines by the time Trump's administration came to power, so were woefully unprepared. Even the Federal government had not done everything as it should have, such as not replenishing all stockpiles.

A summary of different levels of responsibilities:

FEDERAL: On November 1, 2005, President Bush announced the nation’s comprehensive approach to prepare for and combat a potential pandemic influenza, emphasizing the need for proactive efforts combining the full capabilities and support of all levels of government and the private sector. The President also launched the primary Federal Web site, www.pandemicfl u.gov, to provide up-to-date information and pandemic links, and he released the National Strategy for Pandemic Influenza. 3 On May 6, 2006, the U.S. Homeland Security Council distributed the National Strategy for Pandemic Influenza Implementation Plan to provide operational direction and specific implementation actions for all Federal Departments as well as guidance for State, local, and tribal governments and the private sector. The Implementation Plan complements and extends existing national disaster management documents to include the National Response Plan and National Incident Management System (see Guide Annex and www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?theme=14). From this guidance, government stakeholders will develop their actionable pandemic plans to support their specific areas of responsibility and authority. This CI/KR Guide incorporates the guidance provided in the Implementation Plan and specifically addresses one of the support actions directed in Chapter 9 of the Implementation Plan. 2.5.2

STATE, LOCAL, AND TRIBAL: This level of government represents the nation’s front lines in the pandemic battle. They will face extreme challenges in maintaining normal operations in the face of widespread illness and increased demand on most government services. States are diligently updating their pandemic plans; these are available for review at www.pandemicflu.gov/plan/ stateplans.html. As outlined in the Strategy, State, local, and tribal responsibilities include the following:

•ensuring all reasonable measures are taken to limit the spread of an outbreak within and beyond the community’s borders;

•establishing comprehensive and credible preparedness and response plans that are exercised on a regular basis;

•integrating non-health entities, including law enforcement, utilities, and city services in pandemic planning;

•identifying key spokespersons for the community, ensuring that they are educated in risk communications, and having coordinated crisis communications plans;

*establishing State and community-based stockpiles and distribution systems; and

•providing public education campaigns on pandemic influenza.

PRIVATE SECTOR: The impact of all disasters is generally felt most severely at the local level. Private sector businesses should familiarize themselves with the various pandemic containment and response options including social distancing, quarantine laws, and movement restrictions, in the jurisdictions where they operate. Business planners should also assess the diverse national and international legal and regulatory authorities, issues, and restraints that could affect their business, supply chain, transportation of goods and services, priority for municipal services, and workplace safety issues. Additionally, planners should fully assess the risks, impacts, and implications of pandemic-related disruptions to international production, supply


Did the Trump administration review all federal guidelines for all sectors of its responsibility to assure that all was in place as it should be and ready to go. Probably no. Probably assumed everything was up to snuff. But things, at all levels, Federal, state, local, and private, were not.

So new plans had to be developed. And the Fed is now doing much of what it should and what state and local governments should have done, and getting the private sector fully engaged.

Spence is complaining that during a pandemic, the american president is trying to get an american company to sell lifesaving medical gear, to american hospital workers. Spence is upset that the executive branch is trying to intervene to get safety gear to american doctors and nurses.

the head of Florida’s office of emergency management was on tv last night, he’s desperately trying to acquire masks for hospital workers in FL. He has had deals
with 3m fall
through because the masks get sold at the last minute to foreign countries.

Spence doesn’t think Trump should try to help Florida’s head of emergency management. If Obama did the same
thing, spence would get weak in the knees with adulation.
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Pete, did you even listen, nevermind understand, Mnuchin yesterday in the late afternoon/evening press conference???? He at least spoke with f direction, cooperation of the agencies involved, and firm understanding of the limitations of the Treasury Office....

Right now, I could give a rats azz about the election or who did what too late and when. I am concerned about solutions. And if you are not onboard as part of the solution, you are part of the problem...

Pete, did you even listen, nevermind understand, Mnuchin yesterday in the late afternoon/evening press conference???? He at least spoke with f direction, cooperation of the agencies involved, and firm understanding of the limitations of the Treasury Office....

Right now, I could give a rats azz about the election or who did what too late and when. I am concerned about solutions. And if you are not onboard as part of the solution, you are part of the problem...

So do you think sea Dangles is part of the solution? Why ignore the lies of Trump which helped get us in the situation we are in now?
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Pete, did you even listen, nevermind understand, Mnuchin yesterday in the late afternoon/evening press conference???? He at least spoke with f direction, cooperation of the agencies involved, and firm understanding of the limitations of the Treasury Office....

Right now, I could give a rats azz about the election or who did what too late and when. I am concerned about solutions. And if you are not onboard as part of the solution, you are part of the problem...

We are lucky we have Charlie Baker leading our efforts in this state, very impressive the steps he is taking to get out in front of this.

So do you think sea Dangles is part of the solution? Why ignore the lies of Trump which helped get us in the situation we are in now?
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Chris has time on his hands until that boat arrives... He definitely leans to the right, but this is more a source of entertainment for him, trust me.:bgi:

So do you think sea Dangles is part of the solution? Why ignore the lies of Trump which helped get us in the situation we are in now?
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As for your second question, Paul... after thinking I had answered you in full; there is no excuse for the lies. I have made it clear that it infuriates me. His is a nationalist program, which this pandemic has proven, is more along the lines we should be pursuing, IMO. Bring the manufacturing back onshore. Made in the USA should be important again. BUT,,,, if you want to impeach someone, you better have the goods. Russia, collusion, Joe Biden and his son? All that took his attention away from where it should have been, IMO. Lost opportunity to lead a country as opposed to playing defense all the time. Lord, he is difficult to defend, but we need to move FORWARD>…….

Lord, he is difficult to defend, ARD>…….

His words, his style, are just about impossible to defend. And sometimes he fails (building a wall, dismal early testing for the virus) and he deserves to be criticized. And sometimes he does well(the economy), and he deserves praise. It's too bad he can't control his narcissism.

And to be clear, I am all about doing what is right. The Republican Senators that sold stock etc on early Corona knowledge? Hold them accountable and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. And the same with any and all who get in the middle to mark up, redirect, bid up or in any way delay getting supplies to where they are needed, in order to line their own pockets. Hang them high. There should be no party nor favoritism when it comes to a national emergency such as this...

His words, his style, are just about impossible to defend. And sometimes he fails (building a wall, dismal early testing for the virus) and he deserves to be criticized. And sometimes he does well(the economy), and he deserves praise. It's too bad he can't control his narcissism.

Agreed. I was fortunate in my early professional life to work for a manager who surrounded himself with the best talent he could find, knowing their talent would be what made him be considered the best in the city/region. Similar to Reagan. There was no chest beating. Unfortunately that is not the style of doing business in the NYC area, and that is where he cut his teeth..

As for your second question, Paul... after thinking I had answered you in full; there is no excuse for the lies. I have made it clear that it infuriates me. His is a nationalist program, which this pandemic has proven, is more along the lines we should be pursuing, IMO. Bring the manufacturing back onshore. Made in the USA should be important again. BUT,,,, if you want to impeach someone, you better have the goods. Russia, collusion, Joe Biden and his son? All that took his attention away from where it should have been, IMO. Lost opportunity to lead a country as opposed to playing defense all the time. Lord, he is difficult to defend, but we need to move FORWARD>…….

He totally ignore the virus and his trying to use the impeachment is an excuse. They floated that as an excuse until people started asking why the admin. couldn't work on 2x at once and it died a quick death. He constantly downplayed the virus and constantly lied. I just saw that the admin. est of potential deaths (100K - 200K) seems to be made up and no one knows where that came from. It will be the admin. line and if deaths come in less than that, the admin. will say they did a great job. You can't move forward when the person who has the biggest megaphone is a lying, petty, unprepared person.

https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-deaths-estimate-doubt-trump-anthony-fauci-advisers-20200403.html

Chris has time on his hands until that boat arrives... He definitely leans to the right, but this is more a source of entertainment for him, trust me.:bgi:

Do you think calling people a POS and P ussy is entertaining? I think I know you good enough to know you wouldn't do that.

If the coronavirus had been a witness in his impeachment trial, maybe Trump* would have done more to stop it.

If the coronavirus had been a witness in his impeachment trial, maybe Trump* would have done more to stop it.

May be the best quote you ever typed!:hf1:

Do you think calling people a POS and P ussy is entertaining? I think I know you good enough to know you wouldn't do that.

Let me out of your head, P*ssy.
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Pete, did you even listen, nevermind understand, Mnuchin yesterday in the late afternoon/evening press conference???? He at least spoke with f direction, cooperation of the agencies involved, and firm understanding of the limitations of the Treasury Office....

Right now, I could give a rats azz about the election or who did what too late and when. I am concerned about solutions. And if you are not onboard as part of the solution, you are part of the problem...

Each day that we continue without a unified national solution makes the final cost in lives and dollars greater.
Trump*s schizophrenic approach to management of this is not working.
Everybody needs to be able to plan their response and count on others to do what they say they will.
There is a limited supply of stuff in the world.
We need to be on top of it.
Saying states need to look out for themselves is antithetical to what America stands for.
The change in the national strategic stockpile website after Jared's odd statement is unacceptable.

I have heard that Massachusetts only received 17% of aid requested and Maine 5%, while Florida will receive its 3rd shipment of 100% of aid requested. The group Citizen's for Ethics is investigating if the Strategic National Stockpile is distributing aid based on Trump’s personal preferences.

He wouldn't do that would he?

He'll probably have another show tonight, just which episode of Survivor, States edition is this?

He is a woke Bitchslappedboy
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Let me out of your head, P*ssy.
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So you never answered my question what was your sacrifice you piece of s***?

I'm guessing you were raised in a bunch of different foster homes.
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So you never answered my question what was your sacrifice you piece of s***?

I'm guessing you were raised in a bunch of different foster homes.
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why are you so angry?

He is a woke Bitchslappedboy
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Said MRI1 in one of his typical infantile comments

Reporter asking Pres Trump what Jared Kushner meant when he said the national stockpile was "our" stockpile.

Trump calls the question "nasty" & says: "We need it for the federal govt...to keep for our country...because the federal govt needs it too not just the states."

WTF?
Glad you are impressed by the Stable Genius
Down 5 points on Rasmussen in past 3 days
McConnell is looking askance
Rest of Trumplicans are saying WTF
Watch him flail now
Be careful

why are you so angry?

no kidding...right?

this is recommended therapy for angry leftists...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zfT5xNbGc0

why are you so angry?

I'm not Angry. it's just I don't take his s*** I think he say classless vial scummy person.
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Spence is complaining that during a pandemic, the american president is trying to get an american company to sell lifesaving medical gear, to american hospital workers. Spence is upset that the executive branch is trying to intervene to get safety gear to american doctors and nurses.

the head of Florida’s office of emergency management was on tv last night, he’s desperately trying to acquire masks for hospital workers in FL. He has had deals
with 3m fall
through because the masks get sold at the last minute to foreign countries.

Spence doesn’t think Trump should try to help Florida’s head of emergency management. If Obama did the same
thing, spence would get weak in the knees with adulation.
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This is another one of those Jim learned everything he knows by reading a single Fox News article sort of posts.
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Two top administration officials last year listed the threat of a pandemic as an issue that greatly worried them, undercutting President Donald Trump's repeated claims that the coronavirus pandemic was an unforeseen problem.

Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar and Tim Morrison, then a special assistant to the President and senior director for weapons of mass destruction and biodefense on the National Security Council, made the comments at the BioDefense Summit in April 2019.
"Of course, the thing that people ask: 'What keeps you most up at night in the biodefense world?' Pandemic flu, of course. I think everyone in this room probably shares that concern," Azar said, before listing off efforts to mitigate the impact of flu outbreaks.

Trump claims that, when Azar said in 2019 that the thing that "keeps him up at night" is the threat of a flu pandemic, Azar was not talking about any specific pandemic but only "the concept" of a pandemic, and in fact no one anticipated a specific pandemic would actually happen.

WTF does he think, if he does at all.

It is not a reality TV show, regardless of what the occupant of the WH claims.

It could easy be 8 more days to a million cases in US

So go sun yourself, MRI2

Cause Baby Donnie is looking for that hole

WTF does he think, if he does at all.



greatest president of our lifetime.
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Support on Capitol Hill among both Republicans and Democrats for an independent 9/11-style commission to investigate the country’s response to the coronavirus outbreak appears to be growing.

This is another one of those Jim learned everything he knows by reading a single Fox News article sort of posts.
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so the guy from FL is
lying? the ceo of 3M started his response by denying price gouging, but that wasn’t the accusation. the accusation was denying safety gear to americans.

again, you have no issue with that.

i didn’t read anything in fox. i listened to what the Florida manager of the office of emergency management said. maybe you could try that. maybe that would be almost as informative as you rubbing one out to pictures of obama
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There certainly is a liar in the administration

Back on February 7, the World Health Organization sounded alarm bells about "the limited stock of PPE," noting demand was 100 times higher than normal for this equipment.
Yet the same day as the WHO warning, the Trump administration announced that it was transporting to China nearly 17.8 tons (more than 35,000 pounds) of "masks, gowns, gauze, respirators, and other vital materials." As Secretary of State Mike Pompeo noted in the press release announcing this shipment, "These donations are a testament to the generosity of the American people."
Americans indeed are a generous people. We want to help those in need. And at the time these medical supplies were shipped, more than 28,000 people in China were infected with nearly 600 deaths attributed to the virus. But how could Trump allow tons of vital medical equipment Americans to be transported to another country in February if, as he has claimed that since January, he fully understood the risk the United States was facing from the virus. Other nations were building up their stockpiles while Trump did rallies, golfed and called it a hoax.

Now do a but............

Said MRI1 in one of his typical infantile comments

Reporter asking Pres Trump what Jared Kushner meant when he said the national stockpile was "our" stockpile.

Trump calls the question "nasty" & says: "We need it for the federal govt...to keep for our country...because the federal govt needs it too not just the states."

WTF?
Glad you are impressed by the Stable Genius
Down 5 points on Rasmussen in past 3 days
McConnell is looking askance
Rest of Trumplicans are saying WTF
Watch him flail now
Be careful

Same jibba jabba
Different day
Cry wolf much Bitchslappedboy?
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I'm not Angry. it's just I don't take his s*** I think he say classless vial scummy person.
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No, you are vial.🤡🤡🤡
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why are you so angry?

I reside in his tiny head.
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I reside in his tiny head.
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And you have a big head? Did you ever learn the definition of nepotism? I'd be embarrassed to post here if I was as stupid as you are. Does it make you feel smart to point out typos?
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I will let you sleep wondering about the size of my head.😘
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Sorry for calling you 🧪
I will let you sleep wondering about the size of my head tough guy.
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you still haven't told us about your sacrifice.

yeah I'm the internet tough guy who insultes everybody and doesn't post anything remotely on topic. Goodnight scumbag
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so the cdc and the army corps of engineers aren’t doing anything. very accurate.

Never said that.

Regarding masks and FL That’s simply not accurate. Florida is trying to buy masks from independent distributors who require proof of ability to pay which the states are often slow to produce... so the deals are going to other bidders. Could be other states, FEMA or foreign buyers. Read beyond the headlines Jim it’s all online.

The problem here isn’t 3M as much as an administration who seems to be terrified of demonstrating that the federal government has a role to play in protecting the people outside of the traditional military.

No one can read between the lines like Jeff.🤦🏽#^&♂️
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Never said that.

Regarding masks and FL That’s simply not accurate. Florida is trying to buy masks from independent distributors who require proof of ability to pay which the states are often slow to produce... so the deals are going to other bidders. Could be other states, FEMA or foreign buyers. Read beyond the headlines Jim it’s all online.

The problem here isn’t 3M as much as an administration who seems to be terrified of demonstrating that the federal government has a role to play in protecting the people outside of the traditional military.

"Never said that."

You said states are on there own, or it's every state for itself

"Florida is trying to buy masks from independent distributors"

Which is the way to buy 3M masks...

"ho require proof of ability to pay which the states are often slow to produce"

Show us some evidence, any evidence, that FL hasn't shown the ability to pay. Or are you making a wild assumption to defend your criticism of Trump. Go ahead.

"The problem here isn’t 3M as much as an administration'

Ahh, it's Trumps fault. Shocker.


"an administration who seems to be terrified of demonstrating that the federal government has a role to play in protecting the people"

Ok, to recap.

YOu said in another post that the feds aren't doing anything.

I pointed out that the CDC and army corps of engineers are doing a lot.

You then denied that you claimed the feds aren't doing anything.

Then you claimed the administration doesn't want to do anything.

You're all over the place. The only consistency, is your babylike deranged insistence that everything Trump says or does, must be incorrect.

No one can read between the lines like Jeff.🤦🏽#^&♂️
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And every single time he reads between the lines, what he sees is, orangemanbad. Never, ever anything else.

Three things are important for leadership in a crisis.

Consistency
Truth
Trust

They can't exist independently.

March 10, 2020: Tests
Trump: And when people need a test, they can get a test.

March 11, 2020: Coronavirus Insurance
Trump: Earlier this week, I met with the leaders of [the] health insurance industry who have agreed to waive all copayments for coronavirus treatments, extend insurance coverage to these treatments, and to prevent surprise medical billing.

March 13, 2020:Google and Drive Thru Testing
Trump: At the same time, we’ve been in discussions with pharmacies and retailers to make drive-thru tests available in the critical locations identified by public health professionals. The goal is for individuals to be able to drive up and be swabbed without having to leave your car.

I want to thank Google. Google is helping to develop a website. It’s going to be very quickly done, unlike websites of the past, to determine whether a test is warranted and to facilitate testing at a nearby convenient location. We have many, many locations behind us, by the way.

We cover the—this country in large part.

So the world, by the way—we’re not going to be talking about the world right now. But we cover very, very strongly our country. Stores in virtually every location. Google has 1,700 engineers working on this right now. They’ve made tremendous progress.

March 14, 2020: Paid Sick Leave
Trump:It also provides paid sick and family medical leave for those who need it, including for those who have the virus, for caregivers, and those looking after children affected by school closures. So that’s all taken care of also. And we’ll continue all of these different actions. We have other things planned.

March 17, 2020: Pandemic
Trump:I’ve always known this is a real, this is a pandemic,” Trump said. “I’ve felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.

March 19, 2020: Chloroquine
Trump: Normally the FDA would take a long time to approve something like [chloroquine], and it’s—it was approved very, very quickly and it’s now approved by prescription.

March 20, 2020: Defense Production Act
Trump:I invoked the Defense Production Act, and last night, we put it into gear. . . . We invoked it, I think, the day before we signed it—the evening of the day before—and invoked it yesterday. We have a lot of people working very hard to do ventilators and various other things. Yes.

March 21, 2020: Ventilators
Trump:But there’s tremendous amounts of—not only masks—of ventilators and respirators and everything you can think of. It’s all being—much of it and almost, I could say, all of it is being manufactured right now. . . . I had three calls yesterday directly. Without having to institute—like, “You will do this”—these companies are making them right now. But to think of these numbers, it’s pretty—it’s pretty mind boggling.

March 23rd, 2020: Open For Business
Trump: America will again, and soon, be open for business—very soon—a lot sooner than three or four months that somebody was suggesting. A lot sooner. We cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself. We’re not going to let the cure be worse than the problem.

March 25, 2020: Widespread Testing
Question: Dr. Ashish Jha, who is the head of Harvard’s Global Health Institute, says the key to getting this economy open as soon as possible is to test everyone who needs testing so we can quarantine all infected individuals and allow everyone else to go back to work immediately. Would you subscribe to that strategy?

Trump: Look, I saw him. I saw his statement. We have tested, by far, more than anybody. We’re testing more than anybody right now. There’s nobody even close. And our tests are the best tests.

March 26, 2020: China Travel Ban
Trump: We got very lucky when we made a decision not to allow people in from China at a very early date. I say that because some people don’t want to accept it.

March 27, 2020: 22 Days Ago, Nobody Saw This Coming
Trump: Even 22 days to be exact—right?—when we first started seeing some real signs of problems. . . . They were—I don’t want to say unprepared, but nobody was prepared for this. What we’ve done, nobody can even imagine. . . . Well, they say I had classified briefings a long time ago, which wasn’t true. But we’ve had briefings.

March 30, 2020: Nobody Had Any Idea
Trump: A month ago nobody ever heard of this—nobody had any idea.

March 31, 2020: Other People Were Downplaying The Virus
Trump:A lot of people have said, ride it out, don’t do anything, think of it as the flu. But it’s not the flu. It’s vicious.

On March 31st it went from, the I stopped it narrative, to it is an awful Plague and I alone can save you, otherwise millions will die. If only 200,000 die I will have done a great job.

I'm find it hard to believe that anyone's MAGA hat is that tight.

South Korea and the USA had first cases on the same day.

Both are democracies.

US has 294,000 positive test and 8000 deaths
South Korea has 10,500 positive test and 177 deaths
Exponential growth doesn't care about total population

Great job

There certainly is a liar in the administration

Back on February 7, the World Health Organization sounded alarm bells about "the limited stock of PPE," noting demand was 100 times higher than normal for this equipment.
Yet the same day as the WHO warning, the Trump administration announced that it was transporting to China nearly 17.8 tons (more than 35,000 pounds) of "masks, gowns, gauze, respirators, and other vital materials." As Secretary of State Mike Pompeo noted in the press release announcing this shipment, "These donations are a testament to the generosity of the American people."
Americans indeed are a generous people. We want to help those in need. And at the time these medical supplies were shipped, more than 28,000 people in China were infected with nearly 600 deaths attributed to the virus. But how could Trump allow tons of vital medical equipment Americans to be transported to another country in February if, as he has claimed that since January, he fully understood the risk the United States was facing from the virus. Other nations were building up their stockpiles while Trump did rallies, golfed and called it a hoax.

Now do a but............

I wonder how much $$$$$$ Trump got for the generous donations.
Oh nothing.. I forgot how much he loves China.
Then again the sooner China recovers the sooner workers can get back to there 60 hour a week $1.00 an hour job to make more of the Ivanka clothing line.

Three things are important for leadership in a crisis.

Consistency
Truth
Trust

They can't exist independently.

March 10, 2020: Tests
Trump: And when people need a test, they can get a test.

March 11, 2020: Coronavirus Insurance
Trump: Earlier this week, I met with the leaders of [the] health insurance industry who have agreed to waive all copayments for coronavirus treatments, extend insurance coverage to these treatments, and to prevent surprise medical billing.

March 13, 2020:Google and Drive Thru Testing
Trump: At the same time, we’ve been in discussions with pharmacies and retailers to make drive-thru tests available in the critical locations identified by public health professionals. The goal is for individuals to be able to drive up and be swabbed without having to leave your car.

I want to thank Google. Google is helping to develop a website. It’s going to be very quickly done, unlike websites of the past, to determine whether a test is warranted and to facilitate testing at a nearby convenient location. We have many, many locations behind us, by the way.

We cover the—this country in large part.

So the world, by the way—we’re not going to be talking about the world right now. But we cover very, very strongly our country. Stores in virtually every location. Google has 1,700 engineers working on this right now. They’ve made tremendous progress.

March 14, 2020: Paid Sick Leave
Trump:It also provides paid sick and family medical leave for those who need it, including for those who have the virus, for caregivers, and those looking after children affected by school closures. So that’s all taken care of also. And we’ll continue all of these different actions. We have other things planned.

March 17, 2020: Pandemic
Trump:I’ve always known this is a real, this is a pandemic,” Trump said. “I’ve felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.

March 19, 2020: Chloroquine
Trump: Normally the FDA would take a long time to approve something like [chloroquine], and it’s—it was approved very, very quickly and it’s now approved by prescription.

March 20, 2020: Defense Production Act
Trump:I invoked the Defense Production Act, and last night, we put it into gear. . . . We invoked it, I think, the day before we signed it—the evening of the day before—and invoked it yesterday. We have a lot of people working very hard to do ventilators and various other things. Yes.

March 21, 2020: Ventilators
Trump:But there’s tremendous amounts of—not only masks—of ventilators and respirators and everything you can think of. It’s all being—much of it and almost, I could say, all of it is being manufactured right now. . . . I had three calls yesterday directly. Without having to institute—like, “You will do this”—these companies are making them right now. But to think of these numbers, it’s pretty—it’s pretty mind boggling.

March 23rd, 2020: Open For Business
Trump: America will again, and soon, be open for business—very soon—a lot sooner than three or four months that somebody was suggesting. A lot sooner. We cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself. We’re not going to let the cure be worse than the problem.

March 25, 2020: Widespread Testing
Question: Dr. Ashish Jha, who is the head of Harvard’s Global Health Institute, says the key to getting this economy open as soon as possible is to test everyone who needs testing so we can quarantine all infected individuals and allow everyone else to go back to work immediately. Would you subscribe to that strategy?

Trump: Look, I saw him. I saw his statement. We have tested, by far, more than anybody. We’re testing more than anybody right now. There’s nobody even close. And our tests are the best tests.

March 26, 2020: China Travel Ban
Trump: We got very lucky when we made a decision not to allow people in from China at a very early date. I say that because some people don’t want to accept it.

March 27, 2020: 22 Days Ago, Nobody Saw This Coming
Trump: Even 22 days to be exact—right?—when we first started seeing some real signs of problems. . . . They were—I don’t want to say unprepared, but nobody was prepared for this. What we’ve done, nobody can even imagine. . . . Well, they say I had classified briefings a long time ago, which wasn’t true. But we’ve had briefings.

March 30, 2020: Nobody Had Any Idea
Trump: A month ago nobody ever heard of this—nobody had any idea.

March 31, 2020: Other People Were Downplaying The Virus
Trump:A lot of people have said, ride it out, don’t do anything, think of it as the flu. But it’s not the flu. It’s vicious.

On March 31st it went from, the I stopped it narrative, to it is an awful Plague and I alone can save you, otherwise millions will die. If only 200,000 die I will have done a great job.

I'm find it hard to believe that anyone's MAGA hat is that tight.

South Korea and the USA had first cases on the same day.

Both are democracies.

US has 294,000 positive test and 8000 deaths
South Korea has 10,500 positive test and 177 deaths
Exponential growth doesn't care about total population

Great job
Bitchslappedboy, these three things will sustain us. I know you hope for failure so you can shout from the top of your mountain.
“ see,told ya”
The world is changing.
America 1st
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South Korea and Taiwan already had infrastructures in place with adequate supplies to deal with a pandemic, partly because of the previous biological invasions from China, such as SARS. And they have a more compact area in which to mobilize procedures such as testing, as well as more uniform cultures which are willing to obey and cooperate with government guidelines and requests. As well as smaller populations which are not as unwieldly to monitor and thoroughly trace people to people contacts.

The U.S., supposedly, has an infrastructure and SOP in place. It heavily involves the States and local governments as being the front line with the greatest responsibility for fighting pandemics. But neither the federal nor the state and local governments had stocked or restocked the required supplies before Trump came to power, nor were consistently practicing readiness and awareness. So we had to waste time ramping up what should already been in place.

And SK and Taiwan are far more wary than Western countries of the reliability of any information that comes out of China.

China lied about the danger and extent of the covid-19 in Wuhan. And we reacted to China's initial downplay of the virus. It is estimated that China's lack of truth, time being of the essence, critically set back the rest of the world by two weeks or so in properly reacting.

The Trump administration, given the circumstances, has done a credibly, or better, job of actually doing more than our established guidelines for pandemic crises. It is actually doing much of what the states should have been doing. NY, of all places, the possible epicenter of any pandemic or terrorist attack, was woefully unprepared and hypocritically has tried to shift blame on Trump.

So, at this point, what we need is cooperation and effort across all sectors of our society--all hands on deck. Bitching and pointing fingers may be a way of winning an election, but it is a cynical disregard for the safety and well being of our people.

Baloney
Trump’s statements alone disprove every claim you made
His downplaying of the possibility of pandemic drove his administration to not pursue it with vigor.
He’s responsible for the death of thousands of Americans
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Baloney
Trump’s statements alone disprove every claim you made
His downplaying of the possibility of pandemic drove his administration to not pursue it with vigor.
He’s responsible for the death of thousands of Americans
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I purposely did not reply specifically as a quote to you. I cannot have a rational discussion with you. We are mentally wired differently. And this reply is not to your opinion here. It would be futile to try to dissuade you from what you believe. You will, as you often put it, keep believing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=0XzQ8wcVmj4&feature=emb_logo

It’s just the flu
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His downplaying of the possibility of pandemic drove his administration to not pursue it with vigor.
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It certainly appears to have confused and inhibited government response, especially in republican led states where they still are resisting distancing measures, want open churches and beaches etc...

Sorry but the whole “don’t wash your hands to own the libs” attitude has been disasterous.
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This seems to be the new front in defending Trump. China lied about the danger and extent of the covid-19 in Wuhan.


We spy on countries and know deeper secrets, we do not entrust our national intrest on China or any other country telling the Truth ,

The human intelligence and China actions left little doubt how bad it was ...

Trump and his administration bet against the wrong horse, it's just the flu horse

Yet now 3M is the lastest in His Blame game and deflections... it's ok for your own government to out bid Governors so Trump and Jared can say. Look I gave you xyz... stop your bitchen ..

And a sad truth is regardless if the death predictions are correct Trump supporters
Will see say see the experts were wrong if less deaths. If more Trumps great leadership saved us from how bad it could have been ...because he stopped flights from china .. social distancing medical staff will get no credit with this group

Its a cult of personality

Make NO mistake Democrats behind this with China---! Democrats fake impeachment didn't work so democrats went down another path 'Wuhan Virus' ...I am so angry right now--- Democrats de Blasio and Andrew Cuomo KILLING the patients in New York, they REFUSE to give the medicine to the patients and its all about going after president Trump--- Other states doing the same, following New York---

He is clearly the greatest president of our lifetime..
Liberal fools!
🧀🧀🧀
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He is clearly the greatest president of our lifetime..
Liberal fools!
🧀🧀🧀
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MRI1 you remind me of a character in a movie my grand kids liked recently Guardians of the Galaxy, in which there is a tree creature with only one three word line in the entire movie. If you had other talents or contributed some civil discourse, maybe you would remind me of a creature higher up on the evolutionary scale, but just like that dumb tree you keep repeating the same line over and over. Guess what that doesn't make it true, but you need to hear it and see it, so we ALL GET IT, you like this clown. Birds of a feather.

Croot?
You call a talking tree dumb? Name a smart tree then!
Just as we all get that you don’t like him.
But that never stopped YOU from criticizing,this rings hollow to some.


Hypocrite much?
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but just like that dumb tree you keep repeating the same line over and over.



wow...I can't believe YOU...just accused someone else of this :happy:

wow...I can't believe YOU...just accused someone else of this :happy:

come on, just recently he had a thread called “change of pace”, where for a change of pace, he bashed trump. you’re saying he’s a one trick pony? get outta here...
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Trump* is no conservative. He’s a lout, liar, fool and demagogue. An American Peron, though Peron actually served in the military. True conservatives despise him.
And the sad thing.. is that Republicans can never go back. Trump* is the Republican party of today.
For all eternity the words “conservative” and “Republican Party” will mean Trumpist, corona debacle, death, corrupt, criminal regime.

For all eternity the words “conservative” and “Republican Party” will mean Trumpist, corona debacle, death, corrupt, criminal regime.



:screwy:

This seems to be the new front in defending Trump. China lied about the danger and extent of the covid-19 in Wuhan.


We spy on countries and know deeper secrets, we do not entrust our national intrest on China or any other country telling the Truth ,

The human intelligence and China actions left little doubt how bad it was ...


The virus was known about by China sometime in late 2019--some say possibly as early as September. It was the duty of the Chinese government to notify the world health community of the first known eruptions. If it had done so, we would have had a much earlier start in preparations.

As far as I can find, our intelligence reports that China might be lying were in January and February of 2020.

Trump imposed the China travel ban and declared a public health emergency in January.

Trump did nothing until he was forced to, his information source (Fox and Friends, Hannity) kept the circular narrative going as long as possible.

January 3, 2020: The CDC is first alerted to a public health event in Wuhan, China (This fact was revealed publicly later by HHS Secretary Alex Azar.)

January 6, 2020: The CDC issues a travel notice for Wuhan due to the spreading coronavirus.

Note: The Trump campaign claims that this marks the beginning of the federal government disease control experts becoming aware of the virus. It was 10 weeks from this point until the week of March 16 when Trump began to change his tone on the threat.
January 8, 2020: The CDC issues an official health advisory about COVID-19.

January 10, 2020: Former Trump Homeland Security Advisor Tom Bossert warns that we shouldn’t “jerk around with ego politics” because “we face a global health threat…Coordinate!”

January 18, 2020: After two weeks of attempts, HHS Secretary Alex Azar finally gets the chance to speak to Trump about the virus. The president redirects the conversation to vaping
January 20, 2020: First U.S. case is reported in Washington state.

January 21, 2020: Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Disease at the CDC tells reporters, “We do expect additional cases in the United States.”

January 27, 2020: Top White House aides meet with Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney to encourage greater focus on the threat from the virus. Joe Grogan, head of the White House Domestic Policy Council warns that “dealing with the virus was likely to dominate life in the United States for many months.”

January 28, 2020: Two former Trump administration officials—Gottlieb and Borio—publish an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal imploring the president to “Act Now to Prevent an American Epidemic.” They advocate a 4-point plan to address the coming crisis:

(1) Expand testing to identify and isolate cases.
Note: This did not happen for many weeks. The first time more than 2,000 tests were deployed in a single day was not until almost six weeks later, on March 11.
(2) Boost flu vaccination efforts to reduce the load on hospitals.
(3) Prepare hospital units for isolation with more gowns and masks.
Note: There was no dramatic ramp-up in the production of critical supplies undertaken. As a result, many hospitals quickly experienced shortages of critical PPE materials. Federal agencies waited until Mid-March to begin bulk orders of N95 masks.
(4) Vaccine development.
January 29, 2020: The New York Times reports that “mask hoarders” may cause further shortages when the outbreak reaches America.

January 29, 2020: Republican Senator Tom Cotton reaches out to President Trump in private to encourage him to take the virus seriously.

January 30, 2020: Dr. James Hamblin publishes another warning about critical PPE materials in the Atlantic, titled “We Don’t Have Enough Masks.” At the time, it was clear that mask shortages would be a serious problem. Other countries coping with COVID-19 were already running short on masks and ordering them from America and, in addition, almost the entire CDC stockpile had been consumed during the 2009 flu season.

Late January, 2020: HHS sends a letter asking to use its transfer authority to shift $136 million of department funds into pools that could be tapped for combating the coronavirus. White House budget hawks argued that appropriating too much money at once when there were only a few U.S. cases would be viewed as alarmist.

January 31, 2020: Trump puts into action a temporary travel ban on China. This decision has been the centerpiece of his claim to have responded to the coronavirus. But even here, the truth is somewhat different.

Trump’s Chinese travel ban only banned “foreign nationals who had been in China in the last 14 days.” This wording did not—at all—stop people from arriving in America from China. In fact, for much of the crisis, flights from China landed in America almost daily filled with people who had been in China, but did not fit the category as Trump’s “travel ban” defined it.
January 31, 2020: On the same day Trump was enacting his fake travel ban, Foreign Policy reports that face masks and latex gloves are sold out on Amazon and at leading stores in New York City and suggests the surge in masks being sold to other countries needs “refereeing” in the face of the coming crisis.

February 4, 2020: Gottlieb and Borio take to the WSJ again, this time to warn the president that “a pandemic seems inevitable” and call on the administration to dramatically expand testing, expand the number of labs for reviewing tests, and change the rules to allow for tests of people even if they don’t have a clear known risk factor.

Note: Some of these recommendations were eventually implemented—25 days later.
February 4 or 5, 2020: Robert Kadlec, the assistant secretary for preparedness and response, and other intelligence officials brief the Senate Intelligence Committee that the virus poses a “serious” threat and that “Americans would need to take actions that could disrupt their daily lives.”

February 5, 2020: HHS Secretary Alex Azar requests $2 billion to “buy respirator masks and other supplies for a depleted federal stockpile of emergency medical equipment.” He is rebuffed by Trump and the White House OMB who eventually send Congress a $500 million request weeks later.

To date
328,000 infected
10,000 dead

come on, just recently he had a thread called “change of pace”, where for a change of pace, he bashed trump. you’re saying he’s a one trick pony? get outta here...
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When this is over, you three should get a B&B somewhere, clearly this admiration society needs to take that love somewhere. My theme might be the same, but Trump and this administration, keeps giving us new material every day, week and month. Now the family is showing how they too can muddy the water, Jared is a gem coming up with novel plans involving companies that didn’t even know there was a plan. I see there is a new member of the irrelevant force, Jim was trying hard to be part of the group and I really think he is close to earning that coveted title MRI3. Good going Jim.

Christians have been waiting for the anti-Christ to arrive. And when he does, some of them choose to worship him. Go figure.
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