If the rest of you guys and girls are fed up, like me, please encourage all your friends to vote hard.

Absentee ballots
Early voting

Hell, I’d even drive potential voters to the polls in my truck.

Vote hard, jerks! Your life depends on it!

Vote Early, Vote Often!
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Vote Early, Vote Often!
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Hells yes!
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As if we don’t need more evidence Trump has purposely directed events and stays in order to promote and enable family businesses to profit, now it appears likely he attempted to use his position to get the The Open golf tourney moved to his golf course. Only his minions can’t see this is all personal to him and his family, to the point he is willing to discuss moving a golf tournament ahead of far more pressing EU and obvious global issues.

As if we don’t need more evidence Trump has purposely directed events and stays in order to promote and enable family businesses to profit, now it appears likely he attempted to use his position to get the The Open golf tourney moved to his golf course. Only his minions can’t see this is all personal to him and his family, to the point he is willing to discuss moving a golf tournament ahead of far more pressing EU and obvious global issues.

this does it for me...it appears I'm likely offended :shocked:

If it appears, we must convict.

Minions response is always predictable.

Minions response is always predictable.

You're not a minion?

No I’m an independent and please tell me that all the money Trumps businesses have been raking in on “official” business and this news flash don’t raise a constitutional norms red flag, or is ok for him to profit while not doing his job? Hey let’s hold the next G6/7 at Maralago!

No I’m an independent and please tell me that all the money Trumps businesses have been raking in on “official” business and this news flash don’t raise a constitutional norms red flag, or is ok for him to profit while not doing his job? Hey let’s hold the next G6/7 at Maralago!

OK, thanks. The reason I asked if you were not a minion is because you said "Minions response is always predictable." And, it seems to me, I admit that I am biased and may be wrong, but it seems to me that your responses are predictable.

As for Trump doing something unconstitutional, he certainly needs to to be called out on it if he is. I have complete confidence that the Dems and Never Trumpers or Anti-Trumpers will do so and have him removed if they can prove the charge.

Regardless of that outcome, I will still vote Republican in 2020, not because the Repubs are all a bunch of good guys (I have no illusions about their innocence--they have been complicit in a lot, if not most, of the crap that has been laid on our constitutional system), but, simply because they are not, at this time, as dangerous to our constitutional system as the Dems have become. And the Dems show no signs of any mea culpa--quite the contrary, they are becoming more openly radical leftist.

So we agree on one thing, we are both voting based on a perceived danger, I happen to believe another term of Trump will do irreparable harm to this country. Sadly the days of republicans and Democrats working and voting for the good of the country as a whole is so far behind us, I wonder if it will ever return.

So we agree on one thing, we are both voting based on a perceived danger, I happen to believe another term of Trump will do irreparable harm to this country. Sadly the days of republicans and Democrats working and voting for the good of the country as a whole is so far behind us, I wonder if it will ever return.

I don't think that one man, opposed by so many from all sides, has the power to do the type of harm you envision.

Replacing our constitutional system of government with a Progressive regulatory state would, obviously, not only harm our system, it would eradicate it. One man could not do that. But electing a party to total federal power (dragging along a lot of State legislators and executives on its coattails) that basically promises to accomplish that transformation, will give it the power to make its promise come true.

I don't think that one man, opposed by so many from all sides, has the power to do the type of harm you envision.

Replacing our constitutional system of government with a Progressive regulatory state would, obviously, not only harm our system, it would eradicate it. One man could not do that. But electing a party to total federal power (dragging along a lot of State legislators and executives on its coattails) that basically promises to accomplish that transformation, will give it the power to make its promise come true.

Never said we agreed on what the danger was, I’m of the opinion the most immediate danger is named Trump.

If it appears, we must convict.

Or, when he’s not the Prez, the vultures will proceed to peck out his eyeballs for the rest of his natural life.
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Or, when he’s not the Prez, the vultures will proceed to peck out his eyeballs for the rest of his natural life.
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The orange man in an orange jump suit, it’s a natural, maybe while in prison he can learn to read.

Trump knows his campaign is in trouble, with death toll topping 150,000 and with the economy continuing to tank; so it makes sense to see him tweet he thinks the election should be delayed. Can’t see that happening, but do understand Trump would like to delay the inevitable.

Hopefully he's just spewing #^&#^&#^&#^& as usual, but since his other choice is likely a jumpsuit to match his face..............


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???
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So is it
Everything is normal! Reopen the economy! Reopen the schools! No virus to see here!

Or
Voting? Oh no. We can’t possibly vote. We’re in a pandemic

Only someone with terrible polling #s would suggest anything so stupid.

He’s only trying to stave off prison.
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👖👖👖
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overweight scumbag.
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Hopefully he's just spewing #^&#^&#^&#^& as usual, but since his other choice is likely a jumpsuit to match his face..............


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???
8:46 AM · Jul 30, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

So is it
Everything is normal! Reopen the economy! Reopen the schools! No virus to see here!

Or
Voting? Oh no. We can’t possibly vote. We’re in a pandemic

Trump tweeting that on the day John Lewis is being laid to rest, just says so much about this petty, self centered, racist, so inappropriate and disrespectful. He can’t ever not be center stage, it’s all about him, thankfully we only have to endure this arrogant POS a few more months.

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The U.S. economy shrank 9.5 percent from April through June, the largest quarterly decline since the government began publishing data 70 years ago, and the latest, sobering reflection of the pandemic’s economic devastation.

Are we winning yet?
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we might be winning but I'm getting tired of it
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Together we will persevere
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When you finally go far enough to get a founder of the Federalist Society to call for your impeachment

But I am frankly appalled by the president’s recent tweet seeking to postpone the November election. Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats’ assertion that President Trump is a fascist. But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate.
President Trump needs to be told by every Republican in Congress that he cannot postpone the federal election. Doing so would be illegal, unconstitutional and without precedent in American history. Anyone who says otherwise should never be elected to Congress again.

Steven G. Calabresi is a co-founder of the Federalist Society and a professor at Northwestern University’s Pritzker School of Law.
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When you finally go far enough to get a founder of the Federalist Society to call for your impeachment

But I am frankly appalled by the president’s recent tweet seeking to postpone the November election. Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats’ assertion that President Trump is a fascist. But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate.
President Trump needs to be told by every Republican in Congress that he cannot postpone the federal election. Doing so would be illegal, unconstitutional and without precedent in American history. Anyone who says otherwise should never be elected to Congress again.

Steven G. Calabresi is a co-founder of the Federalist Society and a professor at Northwestern University’s Pritzker School of Law.
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But he was only asking a question... Trumps campaign response..

Again his supporters are again making excuses .. he is still new or hes not a politician bla bla bla

Yet he can launch a nuke..

I guess mental competency is only a requirement for POTUS
If his name is Biden ?
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But he was only asking a question... Trumps campaign response..


Which is true. There was no action nor an attempt at action to postpone the election. It is not a crime or impeachable offense to ask, especially when there is evidence that there are kinks in the postal service that could taint the voting. Even more so during the backup of mailing because of the Covid. I've had problems getting mail that I'm waiting for, which comes way later than usual. I had a backup on my mailed in insurance premium payment which finally arrived after several calls. There's this short video of a simulated batch of mailed votes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=PxxHUv-9HyQ&feature=emb_logo

There's this short video of a simulated batch of mailed votes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=PxxHUv-9HyQ&feature=emb_logo
This is kind of stupid, absentee ballots are marked and receive expedited treatment.

This is kind of stupid, absentee ballots are marked and receive expedited treatment.

Registered mail gets special, secure, treatment. I've had registered mail to me get lost and never found. Some found later after much searching and tracking.

I have a mail order business as a side source of income for many years. I've had to accept the fact that a small percentage of mail, to and from, would get lost, much would arrive at various times from late to on time. Sending anything by US mail is not an automatically sure thing. Courier services are far more reliable.

Tweety was kidding and now you can tell me how he was kidding about this also.
That "full and complete" health care plan that Tweety promised he will sign by Aug 2.
Such a joke(r)

Tweety was kidding and now you can tell me how he was kidding about this also.
That "full and complete" health care plan that Tweety promised he will sign by Aug 2.
Such a joke(r)

I didn't say he was kidding.

Which is true. There was no action nor an attempt at action to postpone the election. It is not a crime or impeachable offense to ask, especially when there is evidence that there are kinks in the postal service that could taint the voting. Even more so during the backup of mailing because of the Covid. I've had problems getting mail that I'm waiting for, which comes way later than usual. I had a backup on my mailed in insurance premium payment which finally arrived after several calls. There's this short video of a simulated batch of mailed votes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=PxxHUv-9HyQ&feature=emb_logo

It’s been well documented there is an extremely low percentage of voter fraud and taking money from the postal service, closing polling locations and even hinting (with no authority) at moving the election are all moves he sees as helping him. Let’s also be realistic, while I think he isn’t the brightest bulb on the tree, moving the election closer to a point the economy somewhat rebounds or a virus is actually available; even he knows would gain him votes.

I didn't say he was kidding.

This time you didn’t but Senator Cornyn did.
Meanwhile, the U.S. Postal Service is experiencing backlogs of mail after a top Tweety donor running the agency put in place new procedures, alarming postal workers who warn that the policies could undermine their ability to deliver ballots on time.
If you can’t win cheat
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This time you didn’t but Senator Cornyn did.
Meanwhile, the U.S. Postal Service is experiencing backlogs of mail after a top Tweety donor running the agency put in place new procedures, alarming postal workers who warn that the policies could undermine their ability to deliver ballots on time.
If you can’t win cheat
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Quite a convoluted master plan created by an incompetent dunce. Makes perfect sense.

There's always the rub between Trump being stupid and his creating deviously brilliant plans. Now its some possible monkey wrench thrown into the postal delivery system.

Trump's man in charge was put there in April. The postal system has had delivery problems for decades, which has been getting worse for decades.

At any rate, it is admitted that, however it happened, there is a problem that could mess with massive voting by mail--which we have been told is nonsense--everyone voting by mail is perfectly fine--and Trump and his ilk are ignorant dummies for saying otherwise.

We were told that Trump was wrong and stupid for saying that his campaign was spied on. But it turns out Trump was right.

We were told that the dossier was legitimate and mostly true. But it is totally a bunch of crap meant to illegally help to get a FISA warrant.

We were told there were valid reasons to get a FISA warrant to surveil Carter page. That was false, and Page was actually working with the CIA not the Russians.

We were told that Flynn had illegal conversations with Russians. It turns out that the FBI knew his conversations were legal and pursued him anyway.

We were told a lot of crap that was not true, but that we were stupid conspiracists for not believing it.

And we will continue to be gaslighted while claiming that Trump is gaslighting us.

Here’s how Tweety’s gaslighting works, same way it did with his phone call, Mueller and his birther game.
It’s less than 100 days to Election Day, it’ll be easy to keep track
1) Stake a claim: In this case, President Trump has decided to cast doubt on the 2020 election by alleging, without any evidence, that mail-in ballots that have increased in popularity because of the coronavirus are fraudulent, illegal, and will cost him the election.

2) Advance and deny: Trump does this when he alludes to, without any specifics, what “other people are saying” or his allies suggest he’s only “asking questions” about subjects no responsible person would push into the public discussion. He fulfilled this step when he “asked the question” sure to grab attention this morning: “Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???”

3) Create suspense: You can bet that Trump will soon launch an “investigation”—whether through the Department of Justice, an allied media source, or some state’s friendly Republican secretary of state—regarding mail-in ballots to cast doubt on the process further. Doing so is designed to buy time for Trump also to sow chaos and trap his political enemies into making mistakes he can exploit. Typically, the said investigation’s findings never come, although Trump likes to promise they will be public in “two weeks.”

4) Discredit opponents: While everyone awaits the sham investigation’s findings, Trump will find some targets to zero in on and instigate fights. When it comes to the election, this could be as high-profile as the Democratic ticket, or as obscure as county elections board members.

5) Claim victory: No matter the outcome of the election, Trump will claim that it was “rigged,” as he did the 2016 election that he won. If Trump wins this time around, he’ll say he should have won by more significant margins. If he loses, he will blame the mail-in ballots he’s been railing against since last spring.
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Here’s how Tweety’s gaslighting works, same way it did with his phone call, Mueller and his birther game.
It’s less than 100 days to Election Day, it’ll be easy to keep track
1) Stake a claim: In this case, President Trump has decided to cast doubt on the 2020 election by alleging, without any evidence, that mail-in ballots that have increased in popularity because of the coronavirus are fraudulent, illegal, and will cost him the election.

All kinds of claims were staked about Trump.
He is stupid. He is incompetent. He is Putin's puppet. He colluded with Russia. He is not a Republican. He is a fascist. He is a Nazi. He is a racist. He is a homophobe. He is a misogynist. He was a business failure. He will start wars. Blah, blah . . .

You have staked or regurgitated most of those claims. You are staking a claim in this post.

2) Advance and deny: Trump does this when he alludes to, without any specifics, what “other people are saying” or his allies suggest he’s only “asking questions” about subjects no responsible person would push into the public discussion. He fulfilled this step when he “asked the question” sure to grab attention this morning: “Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???”

"What other people say" has been a trick used against Trump for four years. Attention grabbing headlines against Trump have been concocted on an almost daily basis for four years.

3) Create suspense: You can bet that Trump will soon launch an “investigation”—whether through the Department of Justice, an allied media source, or some state’s friendly Republican secretary of state—regarding mail-in ballots to cast doubt on the process further. Doing so is designed to buy time for Trump also to sow chaos and trap his political enemies into making mistakes he can exploit. Typically, the said investigation’s findings never come, although Trump likes to promise they will be public in “two weeks.”

Trump has had numerous investigations launched against him for four years. And the promised results have yet to arrive.

4) Discredit opponents: While everyone awaits the sham investigation’s findings, Trump will find some targets to zero in on and instigate fights. When it comes to the election, this could be as high-profile as the Democratic ticket, or as obscure as county elections board members.

Discrediting Trump and his supporters has been standard procedure for four years along with the phony investigations

5) Claim victory: No matter the outcome of the election, Trump will claim that it was “rigged,” as he did the 2016 election that he won. If Trump wins this time around, he’ll say he should have won by more significant margins. If he loses, he will blame the mail-in ballots he’s been railing against since last spring.
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Hillary still claims she won.

I pointed out actual Dem gaslighting in the previous post. You, as usual, conjecture some by Trump.

You are gaslighting. You are the creature you fear.

Hillary still claims she won.

I pointed out actual Dem gaslighting in the previous post. You, as usual, conjecture some by Trump.

You are gaslighting. You are the creature you fear.

Time will tell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x1-CVsoEBU

The enablers are running out of time and since this is a fishing board, Trump is like that fish that flops and flips around wildly before it dies.

Four more years

Ivanka 2024
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Four more years

Ivanka 2024
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Brain dead to brain dead I’m pretty sure that’s not happening.

Many states vote by mail, hey Trump votes by mail because he can’t get to his vacation home in Florida, so it’s only logical he should sue Nevada to prevent mail in voting. This man and his minions continue to attempt to prevent those they fear from voting, it’s to bad for them everyone who wants him out is going to risk life to cast a vote against him.

Oh wait Russia can’t hack a paper ballot, hummmm.

Many states vote by mail, hey Trump votes by mail because he can’t get to his vacation home in Florida, so it’s only logical he should sue Nevada to prevent mail in voting. This man and his minions continue to attempt to prevent those they fear from voting, it’s to bad for them everyone who wants him out is going to risk life to cast a vote against him.

Oh wait Russia can’t hack a paper ballot, hummmm.

Whether you call it Vote by Mail or Absentee Voting, in Florida the election system is Safe and Secure, Tried and True," Trump tweeted

What he found out was in FLA more republicans use mail in ballots then. Democrats that why he has changed his tune ..plus its called the electoral college .. he cant win with out Fla
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Many states vote by mail, .



you understand the difference between absentee ballots vs. the proposed mail in ballots right?

you understand the difference between absentee ballots vs. the proposed mail in ballots right?

Gee wiz let me think on that, man that’s a hard one, but yeah I do. Every registered voter in Colorado for example receives a ballot by mail and that is what Trump is attempting other states from doing, even thou it’s proven and results in almost NO fraud. Stump the panel game can continue, all good fun I’m sure.
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you understand the difference between absentee ballots vs. the proposed mail in ballots right?
Seems you dont know

Mass and many states have sent applications i got 1 if you want a mail in ballot .fill it out and send it back . Their just Not just sending ballots. some states may just send them not Mass
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Mass sent us 4 of them, only two of us live here, but we got 4. Good thing I'm honest :hihi:
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Four more years

Ivanka 2024
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While I don’t debate the fact that Ivanka will be doing four more years in 2024; you guys realize that it’s gonna be conjugal and on her knees, right?

Good girl Ivanka, a little to the left.
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heres a question for the mail in voter fraud crowd or those who think the post office cant handle it..

Where do you think mail in ballots are sent? To be lost

heres My understanding they get sent to your local election boards . In the town where you live .and are counted my the same people who would cont the vote if you voted in person

Not some centralize mail in vote collection point ?
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How about this scenario, we received 4 mail in ballot requests. 1 for me, 1 for my wife, and 1 each for the kids. Neither kid lives at home but we got the forms mailed here. What's to stop me (other than being honest) from signing theirs and returning them and when I get the ballots doing the exact same thing? I can't be the only person out there facing this scenario.

As far as the local townies counting the ballots, they have no idea that they don't live with us anymore. Looks good to them.
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How about this scenario, we received 4 mail in ballot requests. 1 for me, 1 for my wife, and 1 each for the kids. Neither kid lives at home but we got the forms mailed here. What's to stop me (other than being honest) from signing theirs and returning them and when I get the ballots doing the exact same thing? I can't be the only person out there facing this scenario.

As far as the local townies counting the ballots, they have no idea that they don't live with us anymore. Looks good to them.
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Voter fraud carries severe penalties.

Are your kids still registered at your home address?

Voter fraud carries severe penalties.

Are your kids still registered at your home address?

I know all about it, I'm just putting out a scenario that could lead to it happening somewhere else. With less scrupulous people.
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How about this scenario, we received 4 mail in ballot requests. 1 for me, 1 for my wife, and 1 each for the kids. Neither kid lives at home but we got the forms mailed here. What's to stop me (other than being honest) from signing theirs and returning them and when I get the ballots doing the exact same thing? I can't be the only person out there facing this scenario.

The ballots have to be approved with a signature match or they're tossed. I think about 5 states do primarily mail in ballots with no issues.

I think the bigger concern is Trump brazenly trying to undermine a fair election, break the USPS and generally cause chaos. Are they any institutions he won't try and sacrifice for his own interests?

The ballots have to be approved with a signature match or they're tossed. I think about 5 states do primarily mail in ballots with no issues.

I think the bigger concern is Trump brazenly trying to undermine a fair election, break the USPS and generally cause chaos. Are they any institutions he won't try and sacrifice for his own interests?

A signature match to the ballot application? If I sign both, they match.
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A signature match to the ballot application? If I sign both, they match.
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like that's an exact science.

Trump this morning why he won’t fund US Postal Service. “Now they need that money in order to make the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots ... But if they don’t get those two items that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting.”

https://twitter.com/i/status/1293896544668782592

Registered mail gets special, secure, treatment. I've had registered mail to me get lost and never found. Some found later after much searching and tracking.

I have a mail order business as a side source of income for many years. I've had to accept the fact that a small percentage of mail, to and from, would get lost, much would arrive at various times from late to on time. Sending anything by US mail is not an automatically sure thing. Courier services are far more reliable.


Truth - Same - I send stuff Registered all over, for years, costs 15-30 depending on location, gets locked each stop in special bins, signed in signed out. Still lose around 5% of packages.


heres a question for the mail in voter fraud crowd or those who think the post office cant handle it..

Where do you think mail in ballots are sent? To be lost

heres My understanding they get sent to your local election boards . In the town where you live .and are counted my the same people who would cont the vote if you voted in person

Not some centralize mail in vote collection point ?
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True - I have met these local people on elections boards and work for them. Nice folk, frequently retired, often far better at driving a light machinery than a mouse.


Voter fraud carries severe penalties.

Are your kids still registered at your home address?


So does heroin and illegal firearms, yet growth is exploding in both


The ballots have to be approved with a signature match or they're tossed. I think about 5 states do primarily mail in ballots with no issues.

I think the bigger concern is Trump brazenly trying to undermine a fair election, break the USPS and generally cause chaos. Are they any institutions he won't try and sacrifice for his own interests?




Sure you think that is the bigger concern. Obama's Pre-COVID USPS would, of course, handled it swimmingly. All problems started with Trump.

Sure you think that is the bigger concern. Obama's Pre-COVID USPS would, of course, handled it swimmingly. All problems started with Trump.
Likely they would have needed some extra funding, that's exactly the opposite of denying funding with the express purpose of harming people's ability vote safely in a pandemic.

Next we're going to see Trump invite Chinese and Russian observers.

Likely they would have needed some extra funding, that's exactly the opposite of denying funding with the express purpose of harming people's ability vote safely in a pandemic.

Next we're going to see Trump invite Chinese and Russian observers.

The U.S. postal system has needed extra funding at least ever since it became unionized. And for most personal and even much of people's official and financial correspondence, it has greatly been replaced by the internet. Computer mailing would probably be more reliable than postal mail.

The U.S. postal system has needed extra funding at least ever since it became unionized. And for most personal and even much of people's official and financial correspondence, it has greatly been replaced by the internet. Computer mailing would probably be more reliable than postal mail.
Not since unionization as much as since a Republican led congress insisted they hold ridiculously high pension reserves.

Regardless it's an unprecedented, vile, shameless and brazen politicization of our system.

It’s Trump looking for a conspiracy where one doesn’t exist, so he is turning the postal service into part of his campaign team. Trump never hides his intent, he basically admitted he is killing the funding to stop the mail in voting.

Not since unionization as much as since a Republican led congress insisted they hold ridiculously high pension reserves.

Regardless it's an unprecedented, vile, shameless and brazen politicization of our system.

Yeah, quite a bit since unionization, though not only because of that. The price of government beyond its normal idiotic and unsustainable spending, has incrementally grown by periodic union demands in wages and benefits--especially the benefits and generous pension arrangements and low ages possible for retirement.

As for the idea that the high pension reserves is the cause, this Forbes article effectively explains it differently: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ebauer/2020/04/01/does-the-post-office-need-a-pension-bail-out/#2281215d335f

Your mail in vote doesn't leave the town you mailed in in it's not rocket science

Thousands of absentee ballots have been processed by the military overseas forever they dont magically disappear or increase

At best they need some funding to cover overtime to process the ballots

Ahh it’s the evil unionists
Oddly enough the growth of the middle class parallels the growth of unions, those dirty bastards
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Ahh it’s the evil unionists
Oddly enough the growth of the middle class parallels the growth of unions, those dirty bastards
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Their growth is parallel because it requires the creation of strong enough economies generated by profitable businesses that can afford to hire the number of workers and pay them the wages needed to sustain and grow the power of a union. The businesses come first. The unions follow.

It isn't as if unions were formed in order to create businesses. There was a middle class without unions. There are middle class jobs that don't have union employees. A free market can produce a middle class without unions. But unions need a market to exist in which they can usefully unionize.

The notion that it was the unions that created the middle class is backwards. And I didn't say that unions are evil. Private sector unions are viable because the relation is symbiotic. The union needs the business to be successful, so, if it is reasonable, it will negotiate win/win contracts. Public sector unions aren't as hampered by the need of their government agency to be profitable. Public sector unions are often one of the reasons why contracts, especially legacy costs, are not sustainable without the government raising taxes or going further into debt.

Your mail in vote doesn't leave the town you mailed in in it's not rocket science

Thousands of absentee ballots have been processed by the military overseas forever they dont magically disappear or increase

At best they need some funding to cover overtime to process the ballots

you understand the difference between absentee and mail-in voting...right?

The Covid virus has taken focus away from something far more troubling to future generations, but when you don’t believe in science to begin with, it’s all just white noise. Greenland ice is predicted to be soon beyond the point of stopping the ice melt eclipsing any snow to replace it and if it goes eventually that’s 23 feet of see level.

Here is a smart guy’s prediction, but hey vote for a science denier if you don’t care about your grandkids future.

Bill Gates summarized the current research this way: “By 2060, climate change could be just as deadly as COVID-19, and by 2100 it could be five times as deadly.” And unlike this pandemic, it would not abate and could not even be stalled, except by entirely zeroing out every ounce of carbon being produced now — 37 gigatons annually — by the planet we have transformed into an emissions factory, and then waiting, at least decades and perhaps centuries, for the climate to stabilize.
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The Covid virus has taken focus away from something far more troubling to future generations, but when you don’t believe in science to begin with, it’s all just white noise. Greenland ice is predicted to be soon beyond the point of stopping the ice melt eclipsing any snow to replace it and if it goes eventually that’s 23 feet of see level.

Here is a smart guy’s prediction, but hey vote for a science denier if you don’t care about your grandkids future.

Bill Gates summarized the current research this way: “By 2060, climate change could be just as deadly as COVID-19, and by 2100 it could be five times as deadly.” And unlike this pandemic, it would not abate and could not even be stalled, except by entirely zeroing out every ounce of carbon being produced now — 37 gigatons annually — by the planet we have transformed into an emissions factory, and then waiting, at least decades and perhaps centuries, for the climate to stabilize.
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Old news.

But no worries, what no children, no grandchildren, or just a science skeptic?
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Awesome, I’ll finally have ocean front property
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you understand the difference between absentee and mail-in voting...right?

yes there is no difference..

Not sure why you keep suggesting they are diffrent.. because they are spelled differently?

Care to tell us how they differe
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yes there is no difference..

Not sure why you keep suggesting they are diffrent.. because they are spelled differently?

Care to tell us how they differe
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Well, absentee ballots are for those who are Physically located outside their voting jurisdiction

Where mail in voting is, as you stated.....

Your mail in vote doesn't leave the town you mailed in in it's not rocket science

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Well, absentee ballots are for those who are Physically located outside their voting jurisdiction
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No, they are for anyone who doesn’t want to or physically can’t go to a polling location for any reason allowed by local law.

My mom voted absentee for 30 years because she couldn’t walk.
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Well, absentee ballots are for those who are Physically located outside their voting jurisdiction

Where mail in voting is, as you stated.....


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absentee ballots are requested because the people that request them want to vote, the "mail-in" are just being sent out in volume....because democrats want to try to get as many stupid, lazy and dead people voting as possible because it increases their chances

absentee ballots are requested because the people that request them want to vote, the "mail-in" are just being sent out in volume....because democrats want to try to get as many stupid, lazy and dead people voting as possible because it increases their chances
Stupid might just help Trump, lazy benefits nobody, dead doesn’t really happen.

Don’t know why making voting safer in a pandemic is a bad thing. It’s one of the most important institutions we have and yet one more Trump wants to undermine.
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No, they are for anyone who doesn’t want to or physically can’t go to a polling location for any reason allowed by local law.

My mom voted absentee for 30 years because she couldn’t walk.
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Yeah, I’ll give you that, for those folks as well.
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Yeah, I’ll give you that, for those folks as well.
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wait... the same people who can't or refuse to differentiate between illegal and legal immigrants....can't or refuse to differentiate between requested and mailed out unrequested ballots...this is shocking :biglaugh:

absentee ballots are requested because the people that request them want to vote, the "mail-in" are just being sent out in volume....because democrats want to try to get as many stupid, lazy and dead people voting as possible because it increases their chances

Really love to see where that's happening.. Here in Massachusetts every registered voter had a application for a mail in ballot sent to their home.. and had the choice go to a polling site or fill out the application to receive a MAIL IN BALLOT


But why should facts matter

Really love to see where that's happening.. Here in Massachusetts every registered voter had a application for a mail in ballot sent to their home.. and had the choice go to a polling site or fill out the application to receive a MAIL IN BALLOT


But why should facts matter


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New Jersey will send mail-in ballots to ‘everybody’ for 2020 election, despite Trump’s attacks, governor says


New Jersey will send mail-in ballots to all registered voters for the 2020 presidential election while still offering the option for voters to cast their ballots in person, Gov. Phil Murphy said Friday.

“It doesn’t matter what party you’re in, everybody gets a ballot,” Murphy announced in a CNN interview.

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New Jersey will send mail-in ballots to ‘everybody’ for 2020 election, despite Trump’s attacks, governor says


New Jersey will send mail-in ballots to all registered voters for the 2020 presidential election while still offering the option for voters to cast their ballots in person, Gov. Phil Murphy said Friday.

“It doesn’t matter what party you’re in, everybody gets a ballot,” Murphy announced in a CNN interview.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek:

Think of the widespread corruption when all of those people who were too lazy to register don't get ballots.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek:

Think of the widespread corruption when all of those people who were too lazy to register don't get ballots.

that's ok democraps and their friends are working hard to register everyone with or without a pulse

One would think it important to make sure Americans vote

Country % of voting-age population % of registered voters
Belgium (2014)* 87.21% 89.37%
Sweden (2014) 82.61% 85.81%
Denmark (2015) 80.34% 85.89%
Australia (2016)* 78.96% 90.98%
South Korea (2017) 77.92% 77.23%
Netherlands (2017) 77.31% 81.93%
Israel (2015) 76.10% 72.34%
New Zealand (2017) 75.65% 79.01%
Finland (2015) 73.14% 66.85%
Hungary (2018) 71.65% 69.68%
Norway (2017) 70.59% 78.22%
Germany (2017) 69.11% 76.15%
Austria (2017) 68.79% 80.00%
France (2017) 67.93% 74.56%
Mexico (2012)* 65.97% 63.08%
Italy (2018) 65.28% 73.05%
Czech Republic (2018) 63.44% 66.57%
U.K. (2017) 63.25% 69.31%
Greece (2015)* 62.14% 56.16%
Canada (2015) 62.12% 68.28%
Portugal (2015) 61.75% 55.84%
Spain (2016) 61.17% 66.48%
Slovakia (2016) 59.43% 59.82%
Ireland (2016) 58.04% 65.09%
Estonia (2015) 56.82% 64.23%
United States (2016) 55.70% 86.80%
Luxembourg (2013)* 55.12% 91.15%
Slovenia (2014) 54.09% 51.73%
Poland (2015) 53.83% 55.34%
Chile (2017) 52.20% 49.02%
Latvia (2014) 51.69% 58.80%
Switzerland (2015)* 38.63% 48.40%
Iceland (2017) NA 81.20%
Japan (2017) NA 53.65%
Turkey (2017)* NA 85.43%
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New Jersey will send mail-in ballots to ‘everybody’ for 2020 election, despite Trump’s attacks, governor says


New Jersey will send mail-in ballots to all registered voters for the 2020 presidential election while still offering the option for voters to cast their ballots in person, Gov. Phil Murphy said Friday.

“It doesn’t matter what party you’re in, everybody gets a ballot,” Murphy announced in a CNN interview.

Again with the needle in the haystack theory

Now all haystack are full of needles
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Again with the needle in the haystack theory

Now all haystack are full of needles
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ummm...no

you very arrogantly wrote...

"Really love to see where that's happening.. ..But why should facts matter"


I showed you that you were wrong...period

One would think it important to make sure Americans vote


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voting is voluntary and optional....it's not your business to make sure anyone votes but yourself

voting is voluntary and optional....it's not your business to make sure anyone votes but yourself

Pete is an authoritarian.

https://www.foxcarolina.com/trump-encourages-north-carolina-supporters-to-vote-by-mail-as-he-attacks-voting-by-mail/article_b8ac365c-8bcb-5522-9497-2cf5e64c42fd.html

Trump told supporters who'd dialed into a telephone rally. "You can request absentee ballots right now. Absentee ballots are great."
Trump encouraged supporters to "watch that other people aren't cheating, because that's what they're looking to do."

At the same time, he told his audience: "Absentee voting is a secure process. It's initiated by the voter -- you request it -- and every voter is verified. Every vote is verified. It's the exact opposite of Democrats' voter fraud scheme. They want to mail ballots to every eligible voter all over the state."


PS universal voting is another Trump Lie like open border, attacks on Christians


WOW Scott which is it good or bad encouraging people to get a mail in ballot but watch your neighbors they might be cheating because their Democrats?

Donald Trump keeps blasting 'universal' mail voting. But few states are planning that in November

But only nine states and the District of Columbia so far plan to hold universal mail-in elections
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/08/15/donald-trump-slams-universal-mail-voting-few-states-planning/3333957001/

At least 77% of American voters can cast ballots by mail in the fall

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/politics/vote-by-mail-states/

And your needle you found doesn't support you or Trumps claims of wide spread fraud ..

Now you move the needle and ,, claim I just said Fraud .. nothing about widespread.. correct

But Republicans have always been about Voter suppression. It's in their DNA and nothing scares them like voter turn out

Nothing to see here

Tweety's donor installed as head of the USPS continues to cut, "reorganize," and dismantle parts of the agency.
The inspector general of USPS " is reviewing controversial policy changes recently imposed under Postmaster General Louis DeJoy, and is also examining DeJoy's compliance with federal ethics rules..."

READING ACROSS THE COUNTRY on the front page of local newspapers:
Arizona Republic, bottom of the front page: “Postal Service warns 46 states about ballot delays” …
Sacramento Bee: “Newsom says USPS changes ‘sabotage’ mail-in vote” …
San Diego Union-Tribune: “POSTAL SERVICE WARNS STATES IT MAY NOT MEET MAIL-IN BALLOT DEADLINES” …
Connecticut Post: “USPS to CT: Mail-in ballots not assured by Nov. 3 election” …
Hartford Courant: “USPS: Ballot delivery could be late” …
…
Miami Herald: “USPS warns Florida some of its mail ballots could be rejected” …
Tampa Bay Times: “Mail-in votes are threatened” …
Atlanta Journal-Constitution: “Mail delays may void absentee ballots”…
Wichita Eagle: “USPS removes mail machines in Mo., Kansas” … Baltimore Sun: “Answers sought in delays of US mail” …
Boston Globe: “Postal service warns about vote” …
Kansas City Star: “Mail machines in Kansas, Missouri removed by USPS” …
Star-Ledger (N.J.): “Postal service warns of possible ballot delay” …
…
Charlotte Observer: “NC voters urged to request, mail absentee ballots earlier” …
The Oregonian: “Leaders blast postal changes” …
Dallas Morning News: “Are mail ballots at risk?” …
Houston Chronicle: “States warned mail-in ballot delays likely” …
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: “USPS warns ballot delivery at risk”

ummm...no

you very arrogantly wrote...

"Really love to see where that's happening.. ..But why should facts matter"


I showed you that you were wrong...period

No you stated and I qoute mail-in" are just being sent out in volume....because democrats want to try to get as many stupid, lazy and dead people voting as possible because it increases their chances

And then I arrogantly wrote...qoute

"Really love to see where that's happening.. ..But why should facts matter"

And you showed me 1 state sending ballots to all registered voters 6 others are doing the same thing not all Blue ... but you never showed the reason other than your conspericy on why ... .. I guess in your Analysis Republicans wont be getting ballots in any state who mails ballots to all registered voters. , just asking. How you think mail in ballots help 1 side or hurts the other ?

I would think any American would support and encourage all Americans to vote and if making easier would benfit our democracy giving the people equal representation they deserve. But it's clear you only support a voting system you feel provides you and your party a cushion, via voter suppression tactics :kewl:

This says it all that Trump is only interested in his own reelection, not trying to make the election process benfit all Americans.. and his supporters have no issues with his authoritarian style

He does everything right out in plain sight, his party and AG protect him, so at this point he probably could shoot someone on 5th ave and get away with it.
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I'd start a thread but I've been canceled

Some people are starting to expose Tweety for what he is

Can you think of another moment in history when members of the sitting President’s staff came forward to tell Americans that it was in the country’s best interest to vote for the other guy?

Because that’s what’s happening right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgQZExTciQM

Donald Trump: ‘Unfortunately, Fox Has Become Fake News’

He is now Turning on Fox ... they carry his water all day..they parrot his talking points all day. Seems he wants fox to lie right along with him like true sate tv in Russia or N korea
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So either Trump is really up to something and the Postal Service is a legitimate point of concern. Or it’s a baseless conspiracy because Trump is so mentally unstable that no one should take his words seriously.
Pick one.
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So either Trump is really up to something and the Postal Service is a legitimate point of concern. Or it’s a baseless conspiracy because Trump is so mentally unstable that no one should take his words seriously.
Pick one.
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Newt was actually on a local radio station this morning discussing this among other topics. He's really starting to sound a lot like Rudy to be honest. Newt actually said the USPS has not said they won't be able to deliver ballots on time. I was waiting for the host to politely remind him actually they've warned 46 states they might not be able to...

Trump loves the American worker unless one posts something he doesn’t like, so he now is asking his loyal minions to boycott Goodyear tires.
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Trump loves the American worker unless one posts something he doesn’t like, so he now is asking his loyal minions to boycott Goodyear tires.
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Greatest President ever.

Trump loves the American worker unless one posts something he doesn’t like, so he now is asking his loyal minions to boycott Goodyear tires.
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When the news of this first broke, it left skid marks .....

In

Trumps


Righty whities.
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Trump loves the American worker unless one posts something he doesn’t like, so he now is asking his loyal minions to boycott Goodyear tires.
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That’s only because he’s fighting for American workers.
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I'm starting to doubt that the guy who paid $290,000 to have sex twice is actually the genius deal-maker he claimed to be.
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I'm starting to doubt that the guy who paid $290,000 to have sex twice is actually the genius deal-maker he claimed to be.
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Starting?

I'm starting to doubt that the guy who paid $290,000 to have sex twice is actually the genius deal-maker he claimed to be.
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Come on he has reached out to the my pillow guy to help with our Covid cure, how can you not trust that kind of wisdom.

Trump is pulling out all the fear cards, now he wants to use law enforcement as polling place watchers.

Trump is pulling out all the fear cards, now he wants to use law enforcement as polling place watchers.

this is terrifying....

Trump is pulling out all the fear cards, now he wants to use law enforcement as polling place watchers.

this is terrifying....

Trump won’t be doing this because it’s unlawful, 18 USC 592, he can’t even station FBI Agents or US Marshals at polling places. But the message here is loud & clear, as is the dog whistle.

This will backfire just like his Post Office scheme did.

Trump won’t be doing this because it’s unlawful, 18 USC 592, he can’t even station FBI Agents or US Marshals at polling places. But the message here is loud & clear, as is the dog whistle.

This will backfire just like his Post Office scheme did.
I've heard that Antifa will be providing polling security in Warwick.

Anyone know a family where a sibling would talk so badly about another sibling as the trumps do?
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Anyone know a family where a sibling would talk so badly about another sibling as the trumps do?
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Yes, I've , known and met several. It's not very unusual.

Yes, I've , known and met several. It's not very unusual.

Ok Thanks. I guess I'm just lucky - not in my circle of friends.
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Ok Thanks. I guess I'm just lucky - not in my circle of friends.
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As I said, you're a better person the I. I do have a much larger than average "circle" of aquaintances that are not necessarily "friends," but have known them well enough to have witnessed their family dynamics.

I does give me a broad insight into how varied and often quixotic human nature can be, and, even so, how wrong it can be to quickly dismiss flawed humans as being dysfunctional, or incompetent because of quirks and flaws in their personalities, or in their circle of friends and family. Some of the quirkiest, flawed, even errant, people I've met have been among the most brilliant in intellect and competent in their special fields or endeavors.

Good thing we have a long history of actions and statements of our president to see how flawed he is and that he is neither competent nor brilliant
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Good thing we have a long history of actions and statements of our president to see how flawed he is and that he is neither competent nor brilliant
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As good, and competent and brilliant person that you are, in this case you are wrong.

The Republican National Committee will go without a traditional policy platform at the upcoming GOP convention, and said instead it “will continue to enthusiastically support the president’s America-first agenda.”

So the takeover of the Republican Party is complete.
All that remains is to change the name
Congratulations
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As good, and competent and brilliant person that you are, in this case you are wrong.

If you took those rose colored glasses off, you might see the harm he has done, your response is as predictable as the direction the sun is coming up. People and this country will survive the Trump storm should it come at us for another four years, the damage done to the environment, relations with our allies and faith in our justice system will take decades to recover.

Four more years if you want to live on Trump Island instead of the United States and if the wording is changed from we the people to we the trump family.

This is no longer about politics is it?
This is about fealty to and adulation of a single person. No ideas or beliefs other than his. No accountability other than to him: Republicans to forego party platform in favor of full support for his agenda.
When a political party votes to have no political platform other than enthusiastically supporting its leader, it's no longer a political party. It's a cult.
Over time parties taken over by authoritarians lose identity apart from the leader- their resources and time are monopolized by the need to defend him no matter what he says or does.
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This is no longer about politics is it?
This is about fealty to and adulation of a single person. No ideas or beliefs other than his. No accountability other than to him: Republicans to forego party platform in favor of full support for his agenda.
When a political party votes to have no political platform other than enthusiastically supporting its leader, it's no longer a political party. It's a cult.
Over time parties taken over by authoritarians lose identity apart from the leader- their resources and time are monopolized by the need to defend him no matter what he says or does.
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You keep putting words in mouths that didn't speak them. It's an essential propaganda trick. "Republican National Committee members voted to extend the party's 2016 platform through 2024."

The GOP does have a political platform.

You keep putting words in mouths that didn't speak them. It's an essential propaganda trick. "Republican National Committee members voted to extend the party's 2016 platform through 2024."

The GOP does have a political platform.

G.O.P. Platform, Rolled Over From 2016, Condemns the ‘Current President’

To capture the spirit of a convention held by a party now fully prostrate before its leader, Trump should insist on speaking each night from a replica of the balcony of the Palazzo Venezia.

G.O.P. Platform, Rolled Over From 2016, Condemns the ‘Current President’

So now that we've established that you told yet another lie, and the Repubs do have a platform, and after ragging on the G.O.P. for being a cult, you note something in it that you like. Something that belies your accusation that it "is about fealty to and adulation of a single person. No ideas or beliefs other than his. No accountability other than to him". Perhaps you should read the platform that you said doesn't exist, and you might be surprised to find traditional Republican stuff in it instead of your portrayal of the party losing its identity other than being some personification of Trump

To capture the spirit of a convention held by a party now fully prostrate before its leader, Trump should insist on speaking each night from a replica of the balcony of the Palazzo Venezia.

Or from the podium at the Reichstag. You do have these visions of Trump as Hitler or Mussollini. Actually, he prefers hugging the American flag.

Or from the podium at the Reichstag. You do have these visions of Trump as Hitler or Mussollini. Actually, he prefers humping the American flag.

Fixed it for you

This reality TV President is a barking carnival clown
What other incumbent has ever run on "crime is up since I got elected, re-elect me because I say the other guy will make it worse"?
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Fixed it for you

This reality TV President is a barking carnival clown
What other incumbent has ever run on "crime is up since I got elected, re-elect me because I say the other guy will make it worse"?
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Actually, much to your chagrin, he is the President of the United States.

Actually, much to your chagrin, he is the President of the United States.

Don’t tell him, he thinks he’s just playing one on his TV show.
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Don’t tell him, he thinks he’s just playing one on his TV show.
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OK . . . shhhh . . . I won't tell him.

Meanwhile at the RNC
Kimberly Guilfoyle says she is "a first generation American" pointing to her mother, "a special education teacher from Aguadilla, Puerto Rico," and her father, "also an immigrant," so it's worth pointing out that Puerto Rico is a US Territory and its resident are US Citizens.
Nikki Haley says America is not racist and then describes how she experienced racism herself
The McCloskeys effectively and credibly conveyed the GOP’s message that if Joe Biden is elected, a day may come when you’re not allowed to shoot a Negro from your porch.
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post hard pete...

Why isn’t the GOP producing a new platform for its 2020 convention?

Because a platform means you stand for something.
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Meanwhile at the RNC
Kimberly Guilfoyle says she is "a first generation American" pointing to her mother, "a special education teacher from Aguadilla, Puerto Rico," and her father, "also an immigrant," so it's worth pointing out that Puerto Rico is a US Territory and its resident are US Citizens.
Nikki Haley says America is not racist and then describes how she experienced racism herself

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The dumbing down of America continues.

I thought the Repub. big complain about the Dem convention was that most of the speeches where taped and not optimistic?

Meanwhile at the RNC
Kimberly Guilfoyle says she is "a first generation American" pointing to her mother, "a special education teacher from Aguadilla, Puerto Rico," and her father, "also an immigrant," so it's worth pointing out that Puerto Rico is a US Territory and its resident are US Citizens.
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Technically Puerto Rico’s citizens are citizens of the United States not its residents

I figured it’s worth pointing that out
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Technically Puerto Rico’s citizens are citizens of the United States not its residents

I figured it’s worth pointing that out
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pete saw that on the daily loon feed and felt it was important to copy and paste :hihi:

I thought the Repub. big complain about the Dem convention was that most of the speeches where taped and not optimistic?

probably depends on your point of view...I'm sure the socialists didn't like being called out

All I heard were Tweety’s supporters saying how bad America is... the America he’s is in charge of?
But he takes no responsibility at all
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All I heard were Tweety’s supporters saying how bad America is... the America he’s is in charge of?
But he takes no responsibility at all
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well, we know that you are whacked...tonight is supposed to be even better!:happy:

Melania and the family sh*t show on display should be unbelievable fodder for the late night show hosts.
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probably depends on your point of view...I'm sure the socialists didn't like being called out

In the middle of a pandemic and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, America’s billionaires have made a fortune:

Bezos: +$76B
Musk: +$43B
Zuckerberg: +$42B
Balmer: +$18B
Ellison: +$12B

Life is great, don’t worry it will trickle down.
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Melania and the family sh*t show on display should be unbelievable fodder for the late night show hosts.
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7 out of 14 are named Trump or Kimberly Guilfoyle, JR girlfriend Her first husband was the Democratic politician Gavin Newsom,


Or Ms. McCloskey said that Democrats wanted to “abolish the suburbs altogether by ending single-family home zoning,”

That's funny you cant find.a house like theirs in. The suburbs as if their middle class people


SO under Trumps (AKA Joker) leadership they have turned America into Gotham city .

But if you elect Biden their coming for you. warning of a “vengeful mob” that would lay waste to suburban communities and turn quiet neighborhoods into war zones.

Sound like ever authoritarian government that ever existed , blame the other side for the problems you created

More disfunction w/our first family.

On Monday the media reporter Yashar Ali cited unnamed sources in reporting that Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, a former friend and adviser, “taped the first lady” and plans to share the remarks in her book.

They include “harsh comments about Ivanka Trump, the president’s elder daughter and a senior adviser”, Ali wrote.

In the middle of a pandemic and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, America’s billionaires have made a fortune:

Bezos: +$76B
Musk: +$43B
Zuckerberg: +$42B
Balmer: +$18B
Ellison: +$12B

Life is great, don’t worry it will trickle down.
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you understand that billionaires make fortunes...right?...it's how that works

More disfunction w/our first family.

On Monday the media reporter Yashar Ali cited unnamed sources in reporting that Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, a former friend and adviser, “taped the first lady” and plans to share the remarks in her book.

They include “harsh comments about Ivanka Trump, the president’s elder daughter and a senior adviser”, Ali wrote.

you are practically the National Enquirer...great job!

Trump supporters are Just sheep ... but they think their wolves because they blindly follow the lead ere r of the pack

you understand that billionaires make fortunes...right?...it's how that works

Life is great, don’t worry it will trickle down.
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you are practically the National Enquirer...great job!

Thanks - got any pictures of Obama riding his bike w/his mom jeans?

you are practically the National Enquirer...great job!

Thanks - got any pictures of Obama riding his bike w/his mom jeans?

Should we just post stories from Teen Vogue?

No Evidence Supporting Trump’s Mail Ballot Warnings, FBI Says
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/26/906262573/theres-no-evidence-supporting-trump-s-mail-ballot-warnings-fbi-says

US President Donald Trump has told people in the state of North Carolina to vote twice in November's election, despite this being illegal.

Mr Trump suggested voters send a postal vote and then vote in person in order to test the system.

Law and order my ass