COVID related violence in Chicago this weekend.
Find a cure or vaccine!

"The president of Chicago's Fraternal Order of Police has drafted a letter to President Trump requesting federal help in combating the city's gun violence problem.

In the letter posted to Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 7's Facebook page Saturday evening, FOP President John Catanzara said "Mayor Lightfoot has proved to be a complete failure who is either unwilling or unable to maintain law and order here."

"I would be willing to sit down anytime and discuss ideas about how we can bring civility back to the streets of Chicago," Catanzara went on to say. "These politicians are failing the good men and women of this city and the police department."


and so....

CHICAGO (CBS Chicago/CBS News) — A group of elected officials on the city, county, and state level on Sunday issued a statement condemning Chicago Fraternal Order of Police President John Catanzara Jr.’s letter to President Donald Trump asking for federal assistance in dealing with “chaos” in Chicago.

Fun fact. The guy on the right is now in charge of all our COVID-19 data. He’s Michael Caputo, Trump’s HHS director. His former gigs include being a political pundit and wait for it... publicity director for Vladimir Putin in charge of improving the dictator’s image around the world. He also has no experience in health or medicine or medical data or pandemic response. Send all the data to him and not the CDC, what could possibly go wrong.

If local authorities think it’s bad know, what until the second wave which we haven’t seen yet gets rolling.

Thank You,Rat.Perhaps he can help the libs clean up Chicago

Thank You,Rat.Perhaps he can help the libs clean up Chicago

If kept man moved next door, most would likely turn those guns on themselves.

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If it wasn't for Chicago conservatives wouldn't have anything to complain about. It's the same every year every summer ... and they have been using it for decades and it's always a distraction from the issue of the day. Sprinkled With faux concerns...

See Portland
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Federal Officers Deployed By Trump Admin Are “Kidnapping” Protesters In Portland


Only Trump supporters think this is ok... but still insisting hes not an authoritarian leader ..:cheers:

Federal Officers Deployed By Trump Admin Are “Kidnapping” Protesters In Portland


Only Trump supporters think this is ok... but still insisting hes not an authoritarian leader ..:cheers:

waterboarding would be great

Federal Officers Deployed By Trump Admin Are “Kidnapping” Protesters In Portland


Only Trump supporters think this is ok... but still insisting hes not an authoritarian leader ..:cheers:
Only Trump supporters think there is a problem in Portland and Chicago I am guessing...

I suppose we should ignore it and see if it goes away.😎
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Only Trump supporters think there is a problem in Portland and Chicago I am guessing...

I suppose we should ignore it and see if it goes away.😎
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Chicago has a gang problem, Portland's biggest problem is Trump's secret police.

So you admit there is a problem in Chicago? Did you switch party😆

Portland...Take away the alleged secret police and you have a peaceful coexisting community?
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So you admit there is a problem in Chicago? Did you switch party😆

Portland...Take away the alleged secret police and you have a peaceful coexisting community?
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I'm not aware of anyone denying Chicago has a gang problem.

Here's Portland. It's so violent mother's are banding together to form so called "killer pods" to protect the antifa terrorists.

Thank you for posting a pic of a BLM protest Jeff.
People see what they wish to see obviously ��
I guess in Snowflakeville everything was fine and dandy in Portland until forceful intervention occurred. Who would have imagined that it would escalate so quickly with the peaceful demonstrations? Yet they don’t seem bothered in the least in your provided example.

If it wasn't for Chicago conservatives wouldn't have anything to complain about. It's the same every year every summer ... and they have been using it for decades and it's always a distraction from the issue of the day. Sprinkled With faux concerns...

You probably don’t hear much about it on your news sources. I guess the 1900 shooting victims to date this year are faux concerns also..🤯

I'm not aware of anyone denying Chicago has a gang problem.

Here's Portland. It's so violent mother's are banding together to form so called "killer pods" to protect the antifa terrorists.

So many “Karen’s” not making sammiches
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Here's Portland.

It's so violent mother's are banding together to form so called "killer pods" to protect the antifa terrorists.

Christina Kempster (KGW)
Published July 19, 2020
Updated July 20, 2020

Community leaders call for moratorium on violence, ask for conversation with protesters

“If you want to make change, if you are serious about change, then I’m begging you as a citizen of this city ... put down your need for violence.”


PORTLAND, Ore — After more than seven weeks of protesting and escalating tension between demonstrators and law enforcement, the Portland Police Association, along with representatives from the community, called for an end to destruction and called on protesters to meet with them to work toward a solution.

“If you care about Black lives, if you care about the community, if you care about your officers, if you care about your city, the only thing you need to do is make this stop,” Portland police union president Daryl Turner said.

Turner called out elected officials for condoning violence and chaos in Portland and not acting.

“This is no longer about George Floyd. This is no longer about racial equity or social justice. This is no longer about reform or the evolution of policing,” Turner said. “This is about violence, rioting, destruction, chaos, anarchy, buildings on fire, dumpsters on fire, broken glass and damaged businesses in Old Town, the Pearl, Northeast and North Portland.”

Faith leaders, business owners and community members joined Turner at the press conference.

The pastor of Vancouver Avenue First Baptist Church, J.W. Matt Hennessee, called for a “moratorium on the streets” and issued an invitation to those setting fires, causing destruction and looting to meet with him and others to talk, be heard and look for solutions.

“If you want to make change, if you are serious about change, then I’m begging you as a citizen of this city ... put down your need for violence,” Hennessee said.

Turner, Hennessee and others spoke outside the union headquarters on North Lombard where a riot was declared Saturday night and the building was set on fire.

The demonstration was one of two gatherings Saturday night involving hundreds of people calling for police reform and an end to systemic racism. The other was outside the Multnomah County Justice Center in downtown Portland. The area has been the site of many clashes between protesters and law enforcement over the past seven weeks.



"every city, every town, burn the precincts to the ground"


nice people...:kewl:

So many “Karen’s” not making sammiches
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Antifa human shields. The absolute carnage is quickly spiraling out of control. I hear the hipster brigades are going to target the Chipotle on 44th for excess onion in the guacamole.
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I like a good sangwich
Oh the humanity

I hear the hipster brigades are going to target the Chipotle on 44th for excess onion in the guacamole.
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They are amassing at the Internet cafes ready to rain 1 star Yelp reviews down upon them as they sip on their soy lattes. God have mercy on our souls if they run out of Almond Milk.
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They are amassing at the Internet cafes ready to rain 1 star Yelp reviews down upon them as they sip on their soy lattes. God have mercy on our souls if they run out of Almond Milk.
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Million manbun march. Let’s see the secret police try and put that down.
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Million manbun march. Let’s see the secret police try and put that down.
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All they'll really need to do is cut power to the Milk Frother and they will all go home.
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All they'll really need to do is cut power to the Milk Frother and they will all go home.
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Not before gassing the place, smoke bombs, flash bangs to get the video on Fox so Trump can use it in his culture war.

Not before gassing the place, smoke bombs, flash bangs to get the video on Fox so Trump can use it in his culture war.

There you go again, going off the rails, ever wonder why nobody ever invites you to go fishing with them :hihi:
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Federal Officers Deployed By Trump Admin Are “Kidnapping” Protesters In Portland


Only Trump supporters think this is ok... but still insisting hes not an authoritarian leader ..:cheers:

Local police should be allowed (and directed) to handle it , right?

Chicago has a gang problem, Portland's biggest problem is Trump's secret police.

Local police should be allowed (and directed) to handle it , right?

There you go again, going off the rails, ever wonder why nobody ever invites you to go fishing with them :hihi:
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I'm told he is just bad luck ; )

Local police should be allowed (and directed) to handle it , right?
It sounds like the amount of vandalism hasn't been that widespread. The local police were handling it but also infringing on the rights of the majority of peaceful protesters. Since the secret police have shown up it looks like it has gotten a lot worse.

This is mostly a PR stunt, potentially illegal and people are getting hurt because of it.

It sounds like the amount of vandalism hasn't been that widespread. The local police were handling it but also infringing on the rights of the majority of peaceful protesters. Since the secret police have shown up it looks like it has gotten a lot worse.

This is mostly a PR stunt, potentially illegal and people are getting hurt because of it.

this is idiotic...but go ahead :bl:

It’s just his alternative reality
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What part is wrong?

Tweety's plan to demonstrate that he is a law and order guy by instituting a national police force is pretty scary.

“A standing military force with an overgrown executive will not long be safe companions to liberty,” James Madison told the Constitutional Convention. “The means of defense against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home.”

Riot control is nothing new and attacking a crowd typically does nothing other than add a new thing (the police) they are against in addition to their original objective. In this case since police are viewed as the original problem by protesters, the very people that protesters are concerned about are validating their opinions by attacking them.

There are proven methods that have been used for years, nothing works perfectly but the attack method has been proven to have a great chance to escalate and spread the problem.

https://leb.fbi.gov/articles/featured-articles/crowd-management-adopting-a-new-paradigm

I reached out via email to an old college girlfriend who lives in Portland. She always was crunchy granola type, but here is a condensed version of her response;

We are a feisty bunch- and rebellious and independent. And so we do not want the !@#$%^&*( Feds messing with our protests. Yes we are fine - we are all at home! Although my daughter and I are going to go join the wall of moms that are lining up to protect the protestors. There are the protestors (good) and the rioters (bad)- but the Feds being here is very bad news PDX will not back down. Our city is a mess though- all boarded up and graffiti everywhere....tough times


This is from a well educated 60 year old Oregon native woman, with adult kids, who has lived abroad in Asia as her husband's job in finance took them to many financial capitals and last I knew, he was with the Federal Reserve... Not what I expected, but that is my ground zero report.... My response simply pointed out their plan of action had some glaring holes in it.... like bring a water bottle to a gunfight.

On a different note, my new 2A4life shoulder holster has shipped!

Tweety's plan to demonstrate that he is a law and order guy by instituting a national police force is pretty scary.

“A standing military force with an overgrown executive will not long be safe companions to liberty,” James Madison told the Constitutional Convention. “The means of defense against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home.”

Riot control is nothing new and attacking a crowd typically does nothing other than add a new thing (the police) they are against in addition to their original objective. In this case since police are viewed as the original problem by protesters, the very people that protesters are concerned about are validating their opinions by attacking them.

There are proven methods that have been used for years, nothing works perfectly but the attack method has been proven to have a great chance to escalate and spread the problem.

https://leb.fbi.gov/articles/featured-articles/crowd-management-adopting-a-new-paradigm

They are not a standing military force. They are federal agents from DHS and other federal law enforcement departmens. And they are protecting federal property and federal personnel, not the entire city. They are not there to stop the rioting or clean up the city of crime. They are there to protect federal property from vandalization and destruction by the rioters, and to protect federal personnel.

They are not a standing military force. They are federal agents from DHS and other federal law enforcement departmens. And they are protecting federal property and federal personnel, not the entire city. They are not there to stop the rioting or clean up the city of crime. They are there to protect federal property from vandalization and destruction by the rioters, and to protect federal personnel.

Do you have a list of the federal properties they are protecting? Or perhaps a statement of their specific mission? Just asking as this would be value added to the discussion for those of us trying to make a value judgement from thousands of miles away.

And, getting back to what I believe was the OP; Whoever or what side made the dumbass decision to release violent convicted felons from incarceration due to concerns about COVID 19, has a lot of answering to do... as well as a lot of blood on their hands. The Boston Police Commish came right out with this very point as being the source of the recent increase in shootings in his city.

Do you have a list of the federal properties they are protecting? Or perhaps a statement of their specific mission? Just asking as this would be value added to the discussion for those of us trying to make a value judgement from thousands of miles away.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/not-an-unprecedented-thing-dhs-says-it-is-in-portland-to-protect-federal-property

You probably don’t hear much about it on your news sources. I guess the 1900 shooting victims to date this year are faux concerns also..🤯

Aug. 6, 2018: 74 people shot, 12 fatally, in Chicago over the weekend

I2018. In total, the year saw an estimated 2,391 shootings with 2,948 shooting victims, police said. In 2017, there were 2,777 shootings and in 2016 there were 3,550.


Funny Trump didn't send any one in any of these years so yea faux concerns...


Can you say election :faga:

Thank you.

Some things still missing from the narrative though...

Our city is a mess though- all boarded up and graffiti everywhere....tough times




:)

If it wasn't for Chicago conservatives wouldn't have anything to complain about. It's the same every year every summer ... and they have been using it for decades and it's always a distraction from the issue of the day. Sprinkled With faux concerns...

Are you kidding? Seattle, Baltimore, Detroit, ST Louis...

The question isn't why do conservatives continue to bring these things up. the question is, why do liberals do everything they can, to avoid talking about what's happening in these cities, and why? answer - talking about gang violence and its actual causes, doesn't help democrats win elections...

They are not a standing military force. They are federal agents from DHS and other federal law enforcement departments. And they are protecting federal property and federal personnel, not the entire city. They are not there to stop the rioting or clean up the city of crime. They are there to protect federal property from vandalization and destruction by the rioters, and to protect federal personnel.

So then you are claiming they are just the Graffiti Gestapo.
The jackbooted thugs that the right has claimed for years will take away your rights with no due process or recourse have arrived and they are the President's men.
They have snatched people off the streets of the city, refused to identify themselves, and detained people without charges.
The local elected politicians have asked them to leave, all of the sudden you claim that the man who is not responsible for the safety of American citizens in the case of a virus is responsible for the prevention of property crimes throughout the States.

Chad Wolf, who has not been confirmed by the Senate to serve in the job he has held since he replaced another Acting Secretary of Homeland Security last November, went to Portland last week to personally oversee the operation. He claims that the officers are targeting “violent anarchists” who he blames for spray-painting graffiti on some federal buildings (while stretching the definition of “violent” beyond all logic).

Ask yourself, just what crime did this man commit?

Everything he did was within his First Amendment rights and he was assaulted by the Graffiti Gestapo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UosP_3JgL4E

When you refuse to follow orders then it is hickory shampoo time.

Are you kidding? Seattle, Baltimore, Detroit, ST Louis...

The question isn't why do conservatives continue to bring these things up. the question is, why do liberals do everything they can, to avoid talking about what's happening in these cities, and why? answer - talking about gang violence and its actual causes, doesn't help democrats win elections...

Jim its only in your imagination that Conservatives even care...Aug. 6, 2018: 74 people shot, 12 fatally, in Chicago over the weekend

I2018. In total, the year saw an estimated 2,391 shootings with 2,948 shooting victims, police said. In 2017, there were 2,777 shootings and in 2016 there were 3,550.


Funny Trump didn't send any one in any of these years so yea faux concerns...


Can you say election

I have no illusions.. dems dont avoid talking about whats happening because it happen every year and has been for decades ... I just love the revisionist view conservatives have on the topic :kewl:

Chad Wolf has never been confirmed by the Senate to be DHS Sec’y. He’s been the acting sec’y longer than the Vacancies Act permits. This is one of the ways Trump destroys democratic institutions, putting people in key roles whose loyalty is to him, not the Constitution.
Acts authorized by someone in an office in violation of the Vacancies Act are void ab initio. That can be enforced by a lawsuit brought by a private party.
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So then you are claiming they are just the Graffiti Gestapo.

No. I claimed they were federal agents protecting federal property--in response to your inaccurate portrayal "Tweety's plan to demonstrate that he is a law and order guy by instituting a national police force is pretty scary.

“A standing military force with an overgrown executive will not long be safe companions to liberty,” James Madison told the Constitutional Convention. “The means of defense against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home.”

Trump was not instituting a national police force. The various federal agents being used were instituted before Trump. And invoking the standing military force quote by Madison was stretching it too far beyond its meaning to apply here.

I don't know what Madison would have thought of having an FBI or a DHS or an ICE. Then there is the Insurrection Act.

But those are different discussions.

The jackbooted thugs that the right has claimed for years will take away your rights with no due process or recourse have arrived and they are the President's men.
They have snatched people off the streets of the city, refused to identify themselves, and detained people without charges.
The local elected politicians have asked them to leave, all of the sudden you claim that the man who is not responsible for the safety of American citizens in the case of a virus is responsible for the prevention of property crimes throughout the States.

Chad Wolf, who has not been confirmed by the Senate to serve in the job he has held since he replaced another Acting Secretary of Homeland Security last November, went to Portland last week to personally oversee the operation. He claims that the officers are targeting “violent anarchists” who he blames for spray-painting graffiti on some federal buildings (while stretching the definition of “violent” beyond all logic).

Ask yourself, just what crime did this man commit?

Everything he did was within his First Amendment rights and he was assaulted by the Graffiti Gestapo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UosP_3JgL4E

I don't know what crime he committed. The video doesn't show what he did or didn't do nor what he was saying. It could well be that he did nothing wrong and was unjustly beaten.

But this mantra about peaceful protesting being the object of police brutality or federal law enforcement doesn't square with a lot of what actually has been going on. There are, undeniably, riots and violence going on and have been going on for nearly two months. And there is no evidence that it will stop merely by letting it go unimpeded.

You're portrayal is quite different than what is reported by law enforcement. Overall, throughout the country, a lot of police officers, and federal agents have been injured, many severly, several killed. A great deal of property has been destroyed. Citizens have been injured or killed.

Saying it's merely about graffiti is absurd. Emphasizing the supposed peaceful nature is getting old. And saying its about the death of Floyd, or police brutality wears thin when we hear the words of the leaders, when they can be identified. There is something far more radical fueling this prolonged and destructive behavior.

I reached out via email to an old college girlfriend who lives in Portland. She always was crunchy granola type, but here is a condensed version of her response;

We are a feisty bunch- and rebellious and independent. And so we do not want the !@#$%^&*( Feds messing with our protests. Yes we are fine - we are all at home! Although my daughter and I are going to go join the wall of moms that are lining up to protect the protestors. There are the protestors (good) and the rioters (bad)- but the Feds being here is very bad news PDX will not back down. Our city is a mess though- all boarded up and graffiti everywhere....tough times

I spoke with several friends in Seattle and they had a similar perspective on the CHOP. Although the mom response in Portland is pretty remarkable.

Tweety's plan to demonstrate that he is a law and order guy by instituting a national police force is pretty scary.

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So tell us, the president is supposed to do nothing when state officials choose not to ensure public safety, and worse, actively side with the violent mob?

When the supreme court ordered Arkansas schools desegregated, the Arkansas governor ordered the National Guard to keep blacks out of the white school. Eisenhower immediately sent in the 101st Airborne, armed to the teeth, to march the black students past the National Guardsmen.

Pete, was Ike wrong to do so?

Jim its only in your imagination that Conservatives even care...Aug. 6, 2018: 74 people shot, 12 fatally, in Chicago over the weekend

I2018. In total, the year saw an estimated 2,391 shootings with 2,948 shooting victims, police said. In 2017, there were 2,777 shootings and in 2016 there were 3,550.


Funny Trump didn't send any one in any of these years so yea faux concerns...


Can you say election

I have no illusions.. dems dont avoid talking about whats happening because it happen every year and has been for decades ... I just love the revisionist view conservatives have on the topic :kewl:

"Jim its only in your imagination that Conservatives even care.'

Is it my imagination that conservatives embrace the exact policies that will reduce the cycle of poverty and violence in cities like Chicago? Specifically, strong traditional families, the benefit of faith, school choice, good jobs with upward economic mobility? AM I imagining it that democrats oppose these ideas? Am I imagining it that democrats have an obvious vested interest in making sure that huge numbers of impoverished people continue to live in cities, since 95% of them vote democrat? That's all in my head? Interesting.

Please answer this specifically...is it only in my imagination that at the last SOTU, republicans were wildly celebrating the lowest black unemployment ever, while democrats were miserable about that fact? What's your response to that, exactly? Is that what happened? And if so, why? Why didn't the democrats see low black unemployment as a cause for celebration?

So tell us, the president is supposed to do nothing when state officials choose not to ensure public safety, and worse, actively side with the violent mob?

When the supreme court ordered Arkansas schools desegregated, the Arkansas governor ordered the National Guard to keep blacks out of the white school. Eisenhower immediately sent in the 101st Airborne, armed to the teeth, to march the black students past the National Guardsmen.

Pete, was Ike wrong to do so?
Based on the request from the local authority to provide assistance.
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the governor was the one
ordering the
national guard to
ensure
continued racism.

do you have any evidence that ike only did what he did, because locals
asked?

in the case of the riots, in some cases,,local authorities are clearly siding with the rioters. so they aren’t going to then ask for federal help.

the president doesn’t have the responsibility to protect citizens at home? do you really believe that? or only when the rioters are liberal and the president is a republican?
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"Jim its only in your imagination that Conservatives even care.'

Is it my imagination that conservatives embrace the exact policies that will reduce the cycle of poverty and violence in cities like Chicago? Specifically, strong traditional families, the benefit of faith, school choice, good jobs with upward economic mobility? AM I imagining it that democrats oppose these ideas? Am I imagining it that democrats have an obvious vested interest in making sure that huge numbers of impoverished people continue to live in cities, since 95% of them vote democrat? That's all in my head? Interesting.

Please answer this specifically...is it only in my imagination that at the last SOTU, republicans were wildly celebrating the lowest black unemployment ever, while democrats were miserable about that fact? What's your response to that, exactly? Is that what happened? And if so, why? Why didn't the democrats see low black unemployment as a cause for celebration?

Yes jim its fantasy conservatives embrace the exact policies that will reduce the cycle of poverty and violence in cities... love to see this policy


Specifically, strong traditional families, the benefit of faith, school choice, good jobs with upward economic mobility? Jim you cant mandate those things in a policy is a wish list ... your kool aid delusional

And here we go again with the lowest black unemployment Jim you do understand that high tide floats all boats .... nothing was done by Trump to help blacks directly, now he takes credit for unintentional consequences, because if makes him look good... but glad to see you silent on his covid unintentional consequences but black unemployment

Yes jim its fantasy conservatives embrace the exact policies that will reduce the cycle of poverty and violence in cities... love to see this policy


Specifically, strong traditional families, the benefit of faith, school choice, good jobs with upward economic mobility? Jim you cant mandate those things in a policy is a wish list ... your kool aid delusional

And here we go again with the lowest black unemployment Jim you do understand that high tide floats all boats .... nothing was done by Trump to help blacks directly, now he takes credit for unintentional consequences, because if makes him look good... but glad to see you silent on his covid unintentional consequences but black unemployment

you can absolutely mandate school
choice. as to encouraging families, obviously you can’t mandate it, but you can encourage it ( which conservatives tend to do) or you can mock it and say masculinity is toxic ( which liberals tend to do). you deny that?

“nothing was done by trump
to help
blacks directly”. they were helped as everyone else was helped, duh. you don’t comment on why democrats were saddened by low black
unemployment.

i’m not silent on covid, i give poor grades to all who
encouraged stupid behavior.
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“Defending anonymous tactical units gassing, beating, and snatching people off the streets of Portland and shoving them into unmarked vans” is a strange hill for conservatism to die on, but that’s what has become of the Republican Party under Tweety
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Although the mom response in Portland is pretty remarkable.

they didn't want their little juvenile delinquents to get arrested...doesn't make them good parents or model citizens

start em' young...really need to get these kids back into school:bl:

Armed kids as young as 10 carjack more than a dozen people on South Side, police say

Published 1 day ago CHICAGO Sun-Times Media Wire

It sounds like the amount of vandalism hasn't been that widespread. The local police were handling it but also infringing on the rights of the majority of peaceful protesters. Since the secret police have shown up it looks like it has gotten a lot worse.

This is mostly a PR stunt, potentially illegal and people are getting hurt because of it.

They are not secret - they have shoulder patches and police on them. We can have a well reasoned discussion on: whether or not we should send in federal law enforcement dressed in Army kit, protecting Federal property (that local elected officials are not), whether or not to HAVE police forces dressed up in combat kit, allowing protesting but not allowing riots / vandalism / destruction, and the wilful abdication of local elected officials that would not let local law enforcement handle it.


I reached out via email to an old college girlfriend who lives in Portland. She always was crunchy granola type, but here is a condensed version of her response;

We are a feisty bunch- and rebellious and independent. And so we do not want the !@#$%^&*( Feds messing with our protests. Yes we are fine - we are all at home! Although my daughter and I are going to go join the wall of moms that are lining up to protect the protestors. There are the protestors (good) and the rioters (bad)- but the Feds being here is very bad news PDX will not back down. Our city is a mess though- all boarded up and graffiti everywhere....tough times


This is from a well educated 60 year old Oregon native woman, with adult kids, who has lived abroad in Asia as her husband's job in finance took them to many financial capitals and last I knew, he was with the Federal Reserve... Not what I expected, but that is my ground zero report.... My response simply pointed out their plan of action had some glaring holes in it.... like bring a water bottle to a gunfight.

On a different note, my new 2A4life shoulder holster has shipped!

I watched videos last night of these punks trying to light Federal Courthouse on fire.


Aug. 6, 2018: 74 people shot, 12 fatally, in Chicago over the weekend

I2018. In total, the year saw an estimated 2,391 shootings with 2,948 shooting victims, police said. In 2017, there were 2,777 shootings and in 2016 there were 3,550.


Funny Trump didn't send any one in any of these years so yea faux concerns...


Can you say election :faga:

He threatened to send in Federal Law enforcement.


Ask yourself, just what crime did this man commit?

Everything he did was within his First Amendment rights and he was assaulted by the Graffiti Gestapo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UosP_3JgL4E

He was told to leave several times, went up to the police to discuss what they were doing, was told to leave, and they (somewhat stupidly) thwacked him a few times. He wanted to see these "most are vets, but by their predominate sleeve tats, most were enlisted f vcks" . A true champion of class politics.

start em' young...really need to get these kids back into school:bl:

Armed kids as young as 10 carjack more than a dozen people on South Side, police say

Published 1 day ago CHICAGO Sun-Times Media Wire

That's some good parenting right there.

it's for a good cause :kewl: and...it was ruled a covid death

Investigators have discovered the charred remains of a body in a Minneapolis pawn shop that was set ablaze in the riots after the death of George Floyd, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported on Tuesday.

The building that housed the pawn shop, Max It Pawn, was burned to the ground on May 28. Agents from the Minneapolis Police Department and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found the body while following up on an anonymous tip.


The riots following the death of Floyd have caused roughly $500 million in damage to Minneapolis businesses, according to Minnesota governor Tim Walz.


500 million ....so peaceful

it's for a good cause :kewl: and...it was ruled a covid death

Investigators have discovered the charred remains of a body in a Minneapolis pawn shop that was set ablaze in the riots after the death of George Floyd, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported on Tuesday.

The building that housed the pawn shop, Max It Pawn, was burned to the ground on May 28. Agents from the Minneapolis Police Department and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found the body while following up on an anonymous tip.


The riots following the death of Floyd have caused roughly $500 million in damage to Minneapolis businesses, according to Minnesota governor Tim Walz.


500 million ....so peaceful

And in some cases (like with Gov Cuomo), these protests are allowed, while high school graduations and church services are cancelled. Makes all kinds of sense...

He was told to leave several times, went up to the police to discuss what they were doing, was told to leave, and they (somewhat stupidly) thwacked him a few times. He wanted to see these "most are vets, but by their predominate sleeve tats, most were enlisted f vcks" . A true champion of class politics.

He was standing on the street, he was not threatening anyone and he was assaulted by the goons in uniform without cause. They look and act more like Blackwater thugs to my eye, certainly not professionals trained in crowd control.

Since you are making the claim that he is politically incorrect and should be canceled, do you have a source for what looks like a quote of Christopher David?
In the interviews I have seen that statement does not match his speech or demeanor.

They are not secret - they have shoulder patches and police on them. We can have a well reasoned discussion on: whether or not we should send in federal law enforcement dressed in Army kit, protecting Federal property (that local elected officials are not), whether or not to HAVE police forces dressed up in combat kit, allowing protesting but not allowing riots / vandalism / destruction, and the wilful abdication of local elected officials that would not let local law enforcement handle it.
They are not the police nor do they have a badge or unique identification. Worse their presence has made tensions explode, oh and it's illegal.

Local PD was only told not to use tear gas on peaceful protests and this was by a judge not the mayor or governor.

He was standing on the street, he was not threatening anyone and he was assaulted by the goons in uniform without cause.



this is incredibly stupid....there was a riot going on..if you decide to approach police to have a "discussion" during a riot and they tell you to beat it and you don't ...you are an idiot and probably should get a beating

They are not the police nor do they have a badge or unique identification. Worse their presence has made tensions explode, oh and it's illegal.

Local PD was only told not to use tear gas on peaceful protests and this was by a judge not the mayor or governor.

tear gas works...I like water cannons too

this is incredibly stupid....there was a riot going on..if you decide to approach police to have a "discussion" during a riot and they tell you to beat it and you don't ...you are an idiot and probably should get a beating

Interesting view on the rule of law and the application of it.



What other things are the police allowed to beat people for and where in the Criminal Code is it specified?

“Anyone, including federal law enforcement, who unlawfully assaults and kidnaps people will face criminal charges from my office.” - Philadelphia D.A. Larry Krasner

“Anyone, including federal law enforcement, who unlawfully assaults and kidnaps people will face criminal charges from my office.” - Philadelphia D.A. Larry Krasner

And Tom Ridge...

"Had I been governor even now, I would welcome the opportunity to work with any federal agency to reduce crime or lawlessness in any of the cities. But ... it would be a cold day in hell before I would consent to a unilateral, uninvited intervention into one of my cities."

And Tom Ridge..."Had I been governor even now, I would welcome the opportunity to work with any federal agency to reduce crime or lawlessness in any of the cities. But ... it would be a cold day in hell before I would consent to a unilateral, uninvited intervention into one of my cities."

It sounds like Ridge would not allow rioters to destroy property and injure or kill people including the police. Like he would stop the rioting and looting and maiming, with force if necessary, rather than let it continue for several weeks. And like he would also direct his police force to protect federal property as well.

It sounds like Ridge would not need a federal intervention. On the other hand. If he was not able to prevent the destruction of federal property, his consent would not be needed for federal agents to do so.

It sounds like Ridge would not allow rioters to destroy property and injure or kill people including the police. Like he would stop the rioting and looting and maiming, with force if necessary, rather than let it continue for several weeks. And like he would also direct his police force to protect federal property as well.

It sounds like Ridge would not need a federal intervention. On the other hand. If he was not able to prevent the destruction of federal property, his consent would not be needed for federal agents to do so.
Total spin.
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Total spin.
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Trained eye Jeff?

Total spin.
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Oh, so you think Ridge would allow rioters to destroy property and injure people. And that he would not stop the rioting, and would let it continue for several weeks. And that he would not direct his police force to protect federal property. And that the Federal government would require his consent in order to send federal agents to protect federal property.

Oh, so you think Ridge would allow rioters to destroy property and injure people. And that he would not stop the rioting, and would let it continue for several weeks. And that he would not direct his police force to protect federal property. And that the Federal government would require his consent in order to send federal agents to protect federal property.
I think he put a lot of thoughts into his remarks which speak for themselves.
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All the video I’ve seen shows federal “agents” escalating the conflict.
Of course if your agenda is to increase conflict by interfering with and assaulting citizens legally exercising their constitutional rights then they are doing a wonderful job.
Who’s big fear is that they will take your guns away because you might do something?
Acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf tells Fox that they're "proactive arrest people" in Portland.
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I think he put a lot of thoughts into his remarks which speak for themselves.
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"Had I been governor even now, I would welcome the opportunity to work with any federal agency to reduce crime or lawlessness in any of the cities.

So he put a lot of thought in saying that he would welcome the opportunity to do what the mayor of Portland does not welcome? This is supposed to support your and the mayor's opinion?

But ... it would be a cold day in hell before I would consent to a unilateral, uninvited intervention into one of my cities."

So he put a lot of thought in using the word "intervention"? The federal agents aren't intervening (interfering, intruding, meddling, interposing, mediating, etc.) in Portland's handling of the riots. The feds are doing their own work of protecting federal property and personnel authorized by US code 1315. They are not "intervening" in Portland's efforts. They are not involving themselves in Portland's efforts. If, coincidentally, there is an unavoidable intersection, that is collateral, incidental, not intentional intervention. That coincidence could be seen in the reverse as Portland "intervening" in legal federal law enforcement if you want to loosely and inappropriately use the word "intervene."

All the video I’ve seen shows federal “agents” escalating the conflict.

A selected video clip does not show overall escalation or de-escalation. It shows a slice of something the video maker wants to show. The "conflict" has been going on for a long time. A video of the whole thing showing everything that has happened, everything, from all angles, from the beginning, including all the words spoken and shouted, by everybody on all sides, might give a better perspective on whether the "conflict" was escalated.

And I would think that actually doing something (making arrests, etc.) about the damage and "conflict" being perpetrated on federal property and on federal personnel, instead of just letting it happen without repercussion, would look like "escalation." Most likely, a necessary and proper escalation.

Of course if your agenda is to increase conflict by interfering with and assaulting citizens legally exercising their constitutional rights then they are doing a wonderful job.

Citizens don't have a constitutional right to destroy federal property or to assault federal personnel or to interfere with federal law enforcement bringing those who illegally destroy federal property to justice.

Who’s big fear is that they will take your guns away because you might do something?

People like the couple in St. Louis who are being prosecuted and who's guns were taken away because they bore their legally owned arms on their own property, when they perceived that they were being threatened by a mob.

Acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf tells Fox that they're "proactive arrest[ing] people" in Portland.


Arresting people is inherently proactive, not passive or inactive.

This is a really, really good video explaining what the federal agencies are doing in Portland. It is specific and detailed. It points out the misinformation that has been disseminated by various media. It answers some of the specific allegations made against the agents. It is far, far more informative as to what is going on than the highly selective video clips made to portray the agents as thugs, storm troopers, Nazis, etc. If you're serious about actually wanting to know, rather than just relying on anything that bolsters your opinion of Trump--who BTW, does not have much to do with what FDS, DHS, and other fed agencies are doing in Portland. Please watch the whole thing. It's not boring, far from it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbEyc11EpY8

Interesting view on the rule of law and the application of it.

What other things are the police allowed to beat people for and where in the Criminal Code is it specified?



I could care less what happens to those causing and participating in the mayhem...I care about the law abiding citizens, business and property owners that are having their lives disrupted and upended by these lunatics... there is no reasoning with the mob, these are not law abiding citizens these are criminal running wild in the streets, if they are going to continue to instigate, provoke and destroy they've earned whatever beatings they get....in your video of the guy getting whacked....he shouldn't be there....he is an idiot....when idiots do stupid things...I can't get to worked up when things go bad for them...if you want the guy that whacked him disciplined for being too aggressive with the baton...Ok fine...but in that situation...I can't get too upset when they are taking incoming of Molotov cocktails(clearly visible in the video) and who knows what else...the video claims that these are "protesters marching against police brutality and racism"....not they aren't...they are criminals causing destruction....and I'm a little tired of their act...you can continue to defend the criminals and their lawlessness and act as though they have "rights" as they trample the rights of others

I could care less what happens to those causing and participating in the mayhem...I care about the law abiding citizens, business and property owners that are having their lives disrupted and upended by these lunatics... there is no reasoning with the mob, these are not law abiding citizens these are criminal running wild in the streets, if they are going to continue to instigate, provoke and destroy they've earned whatever beatings they get....in your video of the guy getting whacked....he shouldn't be there....he is an idiot....when idiots do stupid things...I can't get to worked up when things go bad for them...if you want the guy that whacked him disciplined for being too aggressive with the baton...Ok fine...but in that situation...I can't get too upset when they are taking incoming of Molotov cocktails(clearly visible in the video) and who knows what else...the video claims that these are "protesters marching against police brutality and racism"....not they aren't...they are criminals causing destruction....and I'm a little tired of their act...you can continue to defend the criminals and their lawlessness and act as though they have "rights" as they trample the rights of others

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Just remember, this is Donald Trump’s America.
As I said weeks ago this is what he wanted to divert attention from his incompetent response to the Trump virus.
146,000 dead

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I ...you can continue to defend the criminals and their lawlessness and act as though they have "rights" as they trample the rights of others


Yes doing just that makes this country not china not russia and a host of other nations.
, no one is defending their lawlessness , were against law enforcement and this administration justifying law enforcement ,,action of , snatching people off the street wisking them to unknown locations and yet pressing no charges


But your acceptance of these action goes to the root cause of BLM and the out cry against police brutality, you enable police to step outside the law to exact retribution ...rather than demanding they operate with in the law

You clear have ingnored Trumps rhetoric on the topic ,,, or the absent of their presence in years past in some of these same areas or Trumps pattern of trying to please his base.like sending Troops to stop those horrible Mexicans caravan prior to the mid term elections,,

Also the right after every mass shooting the right continue to defend the criminals and their lawlessness and act as though they have "rights" as they trample the rights of others.... and complain about gun control and those who's rights were taken aka killed get T&P.

ALSO. Were are all these tough guy sheriffs who go on Fox proclaiming they wont do this or wont do that because it unconstitutional. It wont help them in a reelection iam guessing?

Look at what happen to liz Cheney attacked for not be loyal enough to the dear leader. Wake up your supporting a character not a POTUS who thinks he has absolute power.. and his base thinks so as well

Just declare martial law in all the Dem controlled cities and arrest the rioters and the

A response from Trumps base on him sending in the feds .. the person who posted it must think of themselves as a Real American

no one is defending their lawlessness l

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defending, enabling, encouraging and cheering

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defending, enabling, encouraging and cheering

Let’s see
The Hammonds who committed arson on federal property and then their supporters did an armed occupation of federal property for more than a month.
Pardoned by Tweety
But that’s ok
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Let’s see
The Hammonds who committed arson on federal property and then their supporters did an armed occupation of federal property for more than a month.
Pardoned by Tweety
But that’s ok
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who cares?

Trump Blames Demonstrations For Coronavirus Surge (funny no big demonstrations in the hardest hit states ? rise in violence on defunding the police which hasn't happened ?

he'll lie about anything:bl:

Cherry picking dolts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzHE_SY334o

Yes doing just that makes this country not china not russia and a host of other nations.
, no one is defending their lawlessness , were against law enforcement and this administration justifying law enforcement ,,action of , snatching people off the street wisking them to unknown locations and yet pressing no charges

They are not just randomly "snatching" people off the street. Because local law enforcement will not prevent the criminals from destroying federal property, the federal agents are constantly on the alert and observing who is doing the destruction. So they have probable cause to question someone they have observed doing criminal behavior against the federal facilities and personnel.

When a perpetrator does something and then sneaks back into the crowd, they have been observed, and the federal agents go to question them. When they are menaced by the crowd, they remove the perp to a safe place and question him there. This was all explained in the video I posted above in post #75. You probably chose to not watch it and remain ignorant.

But your acceptance of these action goes to the root cause of BLM and the out cry against police brutality, you enable police to step outside the law to exact retribution ...rather than demanding they operate with in the law

They are operating within the law. Watch the video.

You clear have ingnored Trumps rhetoric on the topic ,,, or the absent of their presence in years past in some of these same areas or Trumps pattern of trying to please his base.like sending Troops to stop those horrible Mexicans caravan prior to the mid term elections,,

The federal agents were already in Portland, haave been there for years. They are the ones who requested help from other federal agencies because of the peculiar situation in Porland. Watch the video or just remain ignorant.

Also the right after every mass shooting the right continue to defend the criminals and their lawlessness and act as though they have "rights" as they trample the rights of others.... and complain about gun control and those who's rights were taken aka killed get T&P.

I don't recall the "right" defending mass shooters.

ALSO. Were are all these tough guy sheriffs who go on Fox proclaiming they wont do this or wont do that because it unconstitutional. It wont help them in a reelection iam guessing?

???? Are you having a wdmso moment here?

Look at what happen to liz Cheney attacked for not be loyal enough to the dear leader. Wake up your supporting a character not a POTUS who thinks he has absolute power.. and his base thinks so as well

He has the "absolute" power enumerated in Article 2 of the Constitution. If that offends you, start a campaign to amend the Constitution. Or just vote in enough Progressives until they have the absolute power to do as they wish and to appoint SCOTUS justices who will "interpret" the Constitution in a way that won't offend you.

He has the "absolute" power enumerated in Article 2 of the Constitution. If that offends you, start a campaign to amend the Constitution. Or just vote in enough Progressives until they have the absolute power to do as they wish and to appoint SCOTUS justices who will "interpret" the Constitution in a way that won't offend you.

That's the issue with guys like you .. you never take the time to consider even if you believe he has absolute power ,,if he. Should. Of course unless the behavior is conducted by a someone with a D next to their name... your answer is always hell no .. no matter the action

That's the issue with guys like you .. you never take the time to consider even if you believe he has absolute power ,,if he. Should. Of course unless the behavior is conducted by a someone with a D next to their name... your answer is always hell no .. no matter the action

You demonstrate the issue with guys like you here by making broad statements of opinion as if they are true because you say so, but they are stupid, false statements that you could not possibly substantiate because they are not true.

Not saying you're a liar. But that you are obstinately and falsely opinionated when you make statements like this. Why you need to say stuff like this, I am not qualified to have an opinion on.

Words matter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3QXrQDTDYo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl_gO3uOds8

. Why you need to say stuff like this, .


Watch and listen to the videos below..is why

my disdain for Trump is based on his action his words his personal lack of integrity he is a man with zero moral character... it has nothing to do with the word Republican. Because he isnt one .. he is a RINO of the highest order .. you cant drain a swamp if you've lived in one your whole life and just replaced it with creatures from your own swamp . Who put their loyalty to Trump before country

DHS director as case in point lobbyists and only acting ... the law states Acting Secretary can only serve for 210 days following vacancy by a Senate-confirmed officehold.

So much for I am the law an order president,,, I'd like to know who's driving and making Trumps decisions,,, because hes not coming up with these end arounds or his article 2 position on his own...

Watch and listen to the videos below..is why

Don't know which videos you refer to, but when I post videos you pay them no credence so I don't know what special credence I should give to yours. Most video clips, from both "sides" are slices from a whole meant to disparage in some way. You used to chide me for relying on the net which is supposedly full of junk, but you don't mind searching it to find what suits you.

my disdain for Trump is based on his action his words

Words from anyone, selected for a purpose, can distort for a purpose. Trump has spoken lots of conciliatory, unifying, patriotic, attempts at compromise, that you won't quote. Words have been selected from Obama, Clinton, Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, to make them look bad. It's easy to do.

his personal lack of integrity he is a man with zero moral character...

If we don't personally know the man, we can only depend on what others say. And how they slant it. In terms of what has been said about Trump, it depends on the source. There certainly have been testimonials to his showing "moral" character as well as the opposite. How you arrive at zero moral character, I don't know.

I suspect it's what you want to be true.

And, for whatever reason, other politicians, don't seem to get incessant scrutiny of their character. I suspect that Biden wouldn't do all that great on the moral count if fly speck scrutiny were done on his past.

it has nothing to do with the word Republican. Because he isnt one .. he is a RINO of the highest order ..

I don't know what an accurate definition of "Republican" is other than claiming to be one. There is a lot of diversity between all the pols within each party. Trump has governed as, or more, conservatively than most of the recent Republican Presidents.

you cant drain a swamp if you've lived in one your whole life

Sure you can.

and just replaced it with creatures from your own swamp . Who put their loyalty to Trump before country

Another one of your unsubstantiated opinions.

DHS director as case in point lobbyists and only acting ... the law states Acting Secretary can only serve for 210 days following vacancy by a Senate-confirmed officehold.
So much for I am the law an order president,,, I'd like to know who's driving and making Trumps decisions,,, because hes not coming up with these end arounds or his article 2 position on his own...

Don't know much about that. Apparently, there are ways to get around the 210 days. Every administration has pulled shenanigans. No doubt Trump's has its share.

For me reputed character is far down on the list of reasons to vote. Leading Democrats are no more "moral" in any important way, as far as I'm concerned, than Trump.

Don't know much about that. Apparently, there are ways to get around the 210 days. Every administration has pulled shenanigans. No doubt Trump's has its share.

For me reputed character is far down on the list of reasons to vote. Leading Democrats are no more "moral" in any important way, as far as I'm concerned, than Trump.

The way he gets around it is other people not doing their job, they failed in January.

An innocent man doesn’t hide his tax returns. A successful man doesn’t lie about his crowd size. An honest man doesn’t cheat to win an election.

Everything Tweety accuses Biden of doing, he does himself, only worse. So when Tweety World tried to shop the idea that Biden was creepy with women, all it really did was remind people that Tweety has more than two dozen sexual assault allegations on his rap sheet. There is a current court case looking for a DNA sample for the alleged rape of E. Jean Carrol but Tweety claims he doesn't have the time. Be pretty easy to do one when he's having his daily Covid test.

When Tweety World pushed the idea that Hunter Biden was somehow corrupt, you couldn’t help but think about Javanka and DJTJ and all the ways Tweety's family has been siphoning cash out of any place they can.

Tweety World tried painting Joe as doddering and old at the same time that Tweety was rambling through daily press conferences and struggling to walk down a ramp. Then for his encore performance Tweety did his person woman man camera tv routine.

A federal judge on Thursday ordered the release from prison of Tweety’s former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen by Friday afternoon.
The judge found that Cohen was sent back to prison in retaliation for not agreeing not to publish a book about Tweety while on furlough from prison. There will be more of that story emerging.

I can think of four times when Tweety has publicly extended his best wishes to people charged with federal crimes by DOJ: Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort — and now Ghislaine Maxwell.

So now, Tweety is no longer the outsider promising to blow things up and got elected because what did you have to lose?
Well, he’s the guy in charge and he blew everything up. Promises made, promises kept!

Now his problem is that Americans can see exactly how much they’ve lost and are very aware of how much they still could lose.

And it’s a lot.

I wonder what Bitch slapped boy is afraid of...

The way he gets around it is other people not doing their job, they failed in January.

Sounds like our typical incompetent and, or, corrupt American politics. Can't think of too many administrations or congresses (maybe Coolidge admin.) in the past 150 years or so that didn't mix in some monkey business or didn't get around some rule or other. That's not to excuse it, just find it hard to get worked up enough about it to vote for the other side who'll do likewise.

An innocent man doesn’t hide his tax returns.

Trump's returns are not hidden. They are in the hands of the IRS which has found nothing wrong with them. I'm not interested in publicizing my returns. Don't know anybody who is. I think a lot of innocent men would not want to publicize their returns, especially not want some enemy to pore over them. If the IRS found nothing wrong with them, then I can't conceive of anything in them that would make me want to put Progressives in control of this country.

A successful man doesn’t lie about his crowd size.

The inauguration crowd? That's debatable. There are several videos made by those who wanted to attend of hundreds who were turned away. And the internet viewers were reported by some to be record numbers.

And there have been attempts by media and anti-Trumpers to severely downplay the numbers of his rallies in the past So there have either been errors or lies about the size of those crowds. And, they have mostly been larger than typical Biden or Hillary crowds.

An honest man doesn’t cheat to win an election.

An honest man doesn't accuse someone of cheating if he can't prove it.

Everything Tweety accuses Biden of doing, he does himself, only worse. So when Tweety World tried to shop the idea that Biden was creepy with women, all it really did was remind people that Tweety has more than two dozen sexual assault allegations on his rap sheet. There is a current court case looking for a DNA sample for the alleged rape of E. Jean Carrol but Tweety claims he doesn't have the time. Be pretty easy to do one when he's having his daily Covid test.

So is this supposed to be a contest of who is worse?
Well, for me, it is not who is worse, but what is worse. The Progressive transformation of this country into a regulatory state instead of a constitutional republic is worse.

When Tweety World pushed the idea that Hunter Biden was somehow corrupt, you couldn’t help but think about Javanka and DJTJ and all the ways Tweety's family has been siphoning cash out of any place they can.

Actually I could help to not think about it. Actually, before Covid, the country was doing far better than it had been before Trump. Getting back to that would be more important than the supposed Trump family siphoning. And it would especially be what I want as opposed to the Progressive takeover of this country.

Tweety World tried painting Joe as doddering and old at the same time that Tweety was rambling through daily press conferences and struggling to walk down a ramp. Then for his encore performance Tweety did his person woman man camera tv routine.

This is the kind of stuff that makes some difference to you?

A federal judge on Thursday ordered the release from prison of Tweety’s former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen by Friday afternoon.
The judge found that Cohen was sent back to prison in retaliation for not agreeing not to publish a book about Tweety while on furlough from prison. There will be more of that story emerging.

Oh, no doubt, there will be more and more stories emerging. And, no doubt, you will gleefully tell us about them.

I can think of four times when Tweety has publicly extended his best wishes to people charged with federal crimes by DOJ: Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort — and now Ghislaine Maxwell.

Oh . . . the horror.

So now, Tweety is no longer the outsider promising to blow things up and got elected because what did you have to lose?
Well, he’s the guy in charge and he blew everything up. Promises made, promises kept!

I was quite happy with what Trump was doing before Covid. The whole world has been economically devastated since then.
Only thing worse than that is a Progressive takeover of America.

Now his problem is that Americans can see exactly how much they’ve lost and are very aware of how much they still could lose.

And it’s a lot.

Yes, we can lose our Republic with our unalienable rights if we place the Progressives in total power. And to do that just in order to get rid of Trump is a real sick form of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Yes, we can lose our Republic with our unalienable rights if we place the Progressives in total power. And to do that just in order to get rid of Trump is a real sick form of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
You can keep believing in the barking carnival clown
If this ZTI thing is correct and not just some unit patch misunderstanding, the Tweety administration and interior minister Bill Barr Have released a private mercenary army on to our streets.

The truth and reconciliation commission is going to be amazing.
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the Tweety administration and interior minister Bill Barr Have released a private mercenary army on to our streets.


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time for your medication....:spin:

time for your medication....:spin:

Ok Yoho
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You can keep believing in the barking carnival clown
If this ZTI thing is correct and not just some unit patch misunderstanding, the Tweety administration and interior minister Bill Barr Have released a private mercenary army on to our streets.

The truth and reconciliation commission is going to be amazing.
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You referring to this:

"A photo is going viral on social media showing a federal agent holding a gun in Portland, Oregon while wearing what appears to be a patch that reads “ZTI.” Some people on social media are speculating that this is connected to a private company called ZTi. However, that is not accurate. The patch actually reads ZT1 and is part of an identifier system that federal agencies are using right now in Portland instead of placing an officer’s name

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Minnesotans marched Thursday in protest of the Trump administration’s use of federal officers on the West Coast.

The group met at the federal courthouse in downtown Minneapolis earlier in the evening before marching through the city.


rent-a-mob...these people need jobs to go to...protesting should not be an occupation

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Minnesotans marched Thursday in protest of the Trump administration’s use of federal officers on the West Coast.

The group met at the federal courthouse in downtown Minneapolis earlier in the evening before marching through the city.


rent-a-mob...these people need jobs to go to...protesting should not be an occupation
Watch the video of just one antifa terrorist. This was from Portland last night.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MgfoCa2-V3g
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First it was Wall of Moms, then Wall of Dads and now it’s Wall of Vets, so he’s finally getting a wall.
Don’t think Tweety’s attempt to change the narrative from his incompetence on the virus to law and order is working.
Just more division and lack of leadership.
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First it was Wall of Moms, then Wall of Dads and now it’s Wall of Vets, so he’s finally getting a wall.
Don’t think Tweety’s attempt to change the narrative from his incompetence on the virus to law and order is working.
Just more division and lack of leadership.


Which is it? He has no constitutional right to dictate the use of federal agents in the states. He has the right to dictate to the states on how the pandemic is handled in their states.

Sometimes you want to accuse him of being a dictator, but other times you say he is incompetent because he doesn't dictate.

The truth is your wrong on both counts. Our present system does give him authority to protect federal property in the states as well as to protect any constitutional rights of the people in those states if the the states are not capable or unwilling to do so. But he is not empowered to be the dictator of how the states handle their medical procedures.


Just because your narrative is that he has been incompetent on the handling of the virus, doesn't make it so. He has done his part well enough. We have a federated system of governance and, according to the pandemic plan created by the previous administrations, the bulk of the duty on handling the virus falls on the states. You make nebulous charges of him supposedly getting some early warnings by intel which have been denied by intel. The pandemic cupboard was empty when he took office, and I haven't heard evidence that he was warned early on that the previous administration had left the shelves empty, and the states had also not restocked. The country was woefully unprepared even though there was a plan in place, because nobody had followed it. We were left totally unprepared by the previous administration and the by the failure of the states and the failure of the CDC. And by the failure of China and the WHO to warn us early on, but, instead, quite the contrary, to downplay the nature of the virus.

Trump had to gear up the Federal part, which was the bungling CDC which he inherited and backing up the states with supplies where necessary. His administration did that, and it was a massive and well done effort.

Your narrative is a twisted, contradictory, purposefully politicized constant message meant to destroy Trump.

And reality is that it is not about Trump. The Dems only hope is to make it about him, but they would have done the same to any other Repub President. It is not about the man, it is about regaining the power to finish and securely put in place their Progressive agenda.

Hey he is running out of groups to alienate, even the guy locally that had his front lawn covered with Trump full size cutouts and veterans for Trump signs, has pulled all the Trump support signs.

Which is it? He has no constitutional right to dictate the use of federal agents in the states. He has the right to dictate to the states on how the pandemic is handled in their states.

Sometimes you want to accuse him of being a dictator, but other times you say he is incompetent because he doesn't dictate.

The truth is your wrong on both counts. Our present system does give him authority to protect federal property in the states as well as to protect any constitutional rights of the people in those states if the the states are not capable or unwilling to do so. But he is not empowered to be the dictator of how the states handle their medical procedures.
Leadership is not equivalent to dictatorship.
It’s as simple as modeling behavior that will reduce the spread of COVID-19
He’s incapable of leading

Just because your narrative is that he has been incompetent on the handling of the virus, doesn't make it so. He has done his part well enough. We have a federated system of governance and, according to the pandemic plan created by the previous administrations, the bulk of the duty on handling the virus falls on the states. You make nebulous charges of him supposedly getting some early warnings by intel which have been denied by intel. The pandemic cupboard was empty when he took office, and I haven't heard evidence that he was warned early on that the previous administration had left the shelves empty, and the states had also not restocked. The country was woefully unprepared even though there was a plan in place, because nobody had followed it. We were left totally unprepared by the previous administration and the by the failure of the states and the failure of the CDC. And by the failure of China and the WHO to warn us early on, but, instead, quite the contrary, to downplay the nature of the virus.

Trump had to gear up the Federal part, which was the bungling CDC which he inherited and backing up the states with supplies where necessary. His administration did that, and it was a massive and well done effort.
Lies, what was not there was due to the absolute refusal of the Tea party to fund anything the former administration needed.
The plans were in place and actually were successfully used by many other developed nations
Tweety failed to act

Your narrative is a twisted, contradictory, purposefully politicized constant message meant to destroy Trump.
Tweety is currently destroying his name and what remains of the Republican Party

And reality is that it is not about Trump. The Dems only hope is to make it about him, but they would have done the same to any other Repub President. It is not about the man, it is about regaining the power to finish and securely put in place their Progressive agenda.

When Tweety sent his Graffiti Gestapo to Portland there were about 50 protesters. Last night there were 10,000 Americans standing against the Rise of the Tweety’s Turd Reich.

Americans see through his divisive policies to foment civil war
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As far as what Tweety failed to do, here’s a start
Why is it that we haven’t done what we should have? Which of these?
1-Letting tens of thousands into the country from China & Europe despite contrary claims?
2-Disbanding our task force in May?
3-Pretending this was a hoax until March?
4-Reducing & defunding testing
5-The president encouraging & failing to quash the “truthers”
6-Unwillingness to call for & encourage mask mandate
7-Not taking 3-4 week hard shut down
8-Defunding testing/testing sites
9-Not funding contact tracing
10-Eliminating pandemic response teams
11-Leaving bars open
11-Mixed messaging/inconsistent leadership
12-No coordinated national approach
13-Elimination of nursing home safety fines
14-Congressional stalling
15-Leaving meatpacking plants open
16-Not caring about jails & prisons
17-CDC mistakes
18-No stockpiles
19-Anti-science
20-FDA
That list of 20 things was too easy to arrive at. And any of the 20 could have been accomplished. Most of them should have. With diligence, all of them would have.
There’s no reason to be here now.
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That list of 20 things was too easy to arrive at. And any of the 20 could have been accomplished. Most of them should have. With diligence, all of them would have.
There’s no reason to be here now.
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Too easy because the are mostly false or misleading. Most are state responsibilities. Most of the federal problems were inherited which he corrected.

When Tweety sent his Graffiti Gestapo to Portland there were about 50 protesters. Last night there were 10,000 Americans standing against the Rise of the Tweety’s Turd Reich.

Americans see through his divisive policies to foment civil war
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Sometimes you appear to be batchit crazy.

Hey he is running out of groups to alienate, even the guy locally that had his front lawn covered with Trump full size cutouts and veterans for Trump signs, has pulled all the Trump support signs.

This is truly important news.

This is truly important news.

Well considering a veteran had a full size cutout of Trump, A six foot tall fist with a middle finger next to a sign with two foot letters saying impeach this, suddenly takes it all down is telling.

Well considering a veteran had a full size cutout of Trump, A six foot tall fist with a middle finger next to a sign with two foot letters saying impeach this, suddenly takes it all down is telling.

Yup. That cutout certainly tells the whole story.

First it was Wall of Moms, then Wall of Dads and now it’s Wall of Vets, so he’s finally getting a wall.
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oh good....walls of poor excuses for parents and morons protecting juvenile delinquents destroying things.....this is going to be fun

Yup. That cutout certainly tells the whole story.

This is the stuff he finds important.