https://www.foxcarolina.com/man-spent-ppp-funds-on-hotels-jewelry-and-318-497-lamborghini-authorities-say/article_f165ce6a-0520-5783-a79d-3d28ec2a9aad.amp.html

Not really a political thing, more of a douchebag thing. Plenty more like him out there, I'm sure.
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Not really a political thing, more of a douchebag thing. Plenty more like him out there, I'm sure.
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Agree on the douchebag comment, but it’s been reported there isn’t really good oversight, which makes this type of fraud too easy.

Agree on the douchebag comment, but it’s been reported there isn’t really good oversight, which makes this type of fraud too easy.

Isn’t the government in charge of giving out my money?

Asking for a friend.
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Isn’t the government in charge of giving out my money?

Asking for a friend.
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Yup, Congress does that.

Yup, Congress does that.

Aaaaah, Butchie...
What about the wall? Did Congress appropriate that money, or did POSTUS appropriate it on his own.

Don’t trust your government...they lie to you.
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Isn’t the government in charge of giving out my money?

Asking for a friend.
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Trump said he's personally providing oversight, I'm satisfied with that :yak4:

Yup, Congress does that.

Probably a guy Tweety hardly knew, just brought covfefe.

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin told Congress last week that the names of loan recipients and the amounts disbursed as part of the $600 billion-plus Paycheck Protection Program are “proprietary information” and do not have to be made public. Democrats and some Republicans say there is nothing proprietary or confidential about businesses receiving millions of taxpayer dollars. Questions have arisen whether any Trump businesses profited from the tax dollars.
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Who oversees the ballots that have been mailed?
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Probably a guy Tweety hardly knew, just brought covfefe.

Questions have arisen


Of course they have.

Who oversees the ballots that have been mailed?
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Right now it’s the Republicrats.

Better figure out how to count, y’all got like 98 days to figure out how to sell this country to the Russians, again.

And BTW, Trumbo not going to J. Lewis’ funeral is just another badge of racism.
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Right now it’s the Republicrats.

Better figure out how to count, y’all got like 98 days to figure out how to sell this country to the Russians, again.

And BTW, Trumbo not going to J. Lewis’ funeral is just another badge of racism.
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It’s fun to watch our Country grow.

Are you attending or are you also racist?
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It’s fun to watch our Country grow.

Are you attending or are you also racist?
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Loving watching our country splinter right now.

God Bless the USA.
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You and everyone else who feels cheated out of freebies is trying to fix dat by creating turmoil.
#lawandorder
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Ironic coming from a kept man who gets freebies all the time.

Ironic coming from a kept man who gets freebies all the time.

the kept man has the nerve to talk about freebies. Can't make this stuff up
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Ironic coming from a kept man who gets freebies all the time.

Let me throw you some 🧀
🐀🐀🐀

the kept man has the nerve to talk about freebies. Can't make this stuff up
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Your husband get you jeans that cut off circulation to your brain again?
👖👖👖

Your husband get you jeans that cut off circulation to your brain again?
👖👖👖

You ever ask your doctor about your BMI and why you're so overweight?
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Did you ever ask your proctologist why your husbands finger smells?
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I wonder what kind of person would be married to you
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I wonder what kind of person would be married to you
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She likes to buy boats.
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She likes to buy boats.
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I’m guessing leather, harnesses and whips are involved, after sunset he becomes the submissive bitch.

I’m guessing leather, harnesses and whips are involved, after sunset he becomes the submissive bitch.

I am sure you know what Pegging is.
And where the term was born.
🤐😷✊

She likes to buy boats.
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And houses

Aaaaah, Butchie...
What about the wall? Did Congress appropriate that money, or did POSTUS appropriate it on his own.

Don’t trust your government...they lie to you.
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OOPS . . . missed this post by you earlier. I think it deserves a reply. Yes, Congress did appropriate that money. They appropriated it for defense spending. The Pentagon approved it for wall construction. The Supreme Court OK'd it.

I agree with you about lacking trust in the government. Politicians lie. That's why we voters should be far more concerned about protecting and defending our constitutional system of government than about the supposed "character" of political candidates.

Well considering only three miles of fence where none previously existed and all the rest has been repairing or replacing existing fence, do you Trumpets feel let down. That after all was his big 2016 campaign promise and primary platform, it must be disappointing to not get what you voted for. Or maybe you are disappointed to have been duped into buying into his con and now he as a hapless administration that has resulted in so many more deaths and a rapidly failing economy.

Nobody likes him anyway.

Why doesn’t he just resign?

93 days to go...
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And houses

I mean this in the nicest of ways, but all I can think about is Prestige Worldwide, right now.

#SouthEasternMassWineMixer
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Well considering only three miles of fence where none previously existed and all the rest has been repairing or replacing existing fence, do you Trumpets feel let down. That after all was his big 2016 campaign promise and primary platform, it must be disappointing to not get what you voted for.

Actually, all the Trump constructed wall is "new" wall. It is all part of a new wall "system" that is highly effective as opposed to the old fence system which had little effect. And the reason that existing fence is being replaced first is because it is in strategic areas that are deemed more critically in need of wall protection.

As of June 23 "In addition to the over 215 miles of new border wall system constructed along the Southwest Border, there are an additional roughly 340 miles currently under construction with another approximately 183 miles in the preconstruction phase. So it is moving along, slowed down by the persistent attempt by the Dems to block it. Had the Dems kept their earlier desire for an expanded border barrier, rather than trying to block it, it could have already been fully funded.

Or maybe you are disappointed to have been duped into buying into his con

No, I am disappointed in being duped by the disingenuousness of the Dems wanting a barrier, then blocking it for political purposes.

And Trump has done other things the Dems didn't do to slow down and try to stop illegal immigration across the southern border, which kind of shows they really didn't want to do so, or were too incompetent to do so. For instance, we now have a deal with Mexico wherein it stops illegal migrants at their border and returns them to where they came from, or, if they claim the need for asylum, offers it to them as being the first country they landed in, or holds them while they legally apply for asylum into the US. Illegal immigration is way down, and was so even before the Covid driven economic slowdown.

and now he as a hapless administration that has resulted in so many more deaths and a rapidly failing economy.

Again, you just say stuff. His administration has done quite a lot of good in its three and a half years. It's been pointed out several times, but falling on your deaf ears or deflected by the leftist media reports that inform you, it doesn't exist. So you can flatly call it "hapless."

Vague notions of "so many more deaths" caused by this simply stated haplessness are easy to spout if they don't have to be actually proven by specifically documented facts, not just by politically driven claims of not acting quick enough, or not providing this or that, of not listening to so and so.

I could just as easily say a lot more deaths could have occurred if he had not done what he has done. But I will say that the bulk of saving lives rests at the state, local, and personal level, not in the hands of the President. And I think he has done more of his share of responsibility than many of the governors have done with their share.

But I do understand the need of the opposition to paint their picture.

And, as I have said over and over, for me, it is not about Trump. I absolutely get why you and the Dems need to make it about Trump. And if it were merely about politics for me, I would be doing the same thing, just saying stupid stuff about the disaster that is Biden. Or Pelosi and Schumer, for that matter. Making it about them rather than the real issue.

So I know I have wasted time and effort here defending Trump from politically driven and incessantly reiterated claims, because for you and the Dems it has to be about him. So contradicting any of your "just say" stuff will have no effect. You will keep on just saying it.

You take so much time and blue to say what I did, almost all of the new wall is to replace existing wall. Trump’s other bold plan is working too; although though it’s just a side benefit from his complete incompetence when it comes to handling this virus, giving him an excuse to shut down immigration.
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We’d all be better off if he’d just play golf instead of President
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You take so much time and blue to say what I did, almost all of the new wall is to replace existing wall.

No, I didn't say what you said. I said he is building a whole new wall system. Tearing down what was already in place and was crumbling and ineffective and building a new and more extensive wall system is not merely replacing the old one. It is totally discarding the old and putting in something totally new and different. What existed was inadequate, and it would have been ridiculous to leave it in place while adding a totally new and effective system to it.

The notion that building a new wall system, and that part in which an old one had existed is not actually putting up new wall there, is just political gaslighting to make it appear that he has done far less than he claims. Which is baloney.

Trump’s other bold plan is working too; although though it’s just a side benefit from his complete incompetence when it comes to handling this virus, giving him an excuse to shut down immigration.


His administration, despite your just saying it was completely incompetent, competently did a lot of things. It put together a good task force including much approved "experts" like Fauci. It worked well with the private sector to produce much needed supplies that the previous administration left unstocked. It cleared the way to create massive testing which the inherited CDC was incompetently handling. It instituted and cleared the regulatory path to a fast track to create vaccines. It did yeoman's work in stocking the states' supply of ventilators and masks and testing kits that the states had failed to keep an adequate supply of. For starters, and more.

And "shutting down" immigration seems to have been a preferred method by most of the other countries

His administration, despite your just saying it was completely incompetent, competently did a lot of things. It put together a good task force including much approved "experts" like Fauci. It worked well with the private sector to produce much needed supplies that the previous administration left unstocked. It cleared the way to create massive testing which the inherited CDC was incompetently handling. It instituted and cleared the regulatory path to a fast track to create vaccines. It did yeoman's work in stocking the states' supply of ventilators and masks and testing kits that the states had failed to keep an adequate supply of. For starters, and more.

And "shutting down" immigration seems to have been a preferred method by most of the other countries

Boy oh boy get a paper towel and wipe that red kool aid off your face before it stains your mother’s rug, are you really not watching what is happening, of course not it matters not to Trumpets. Nothing could be further from the reality facing this country, but I do realize your opinion is in lock step with Trump, much like his GOP cronies which I hope take the hit in November.

Boy oh boy get a paper towel and wipe that red kool aid off your face before it stains your mother’s rug, are you really not watching what is happening, of course not it matters not to Trumpets. Nothing could be further from the reality facing this country, but I do realize your opinion is in lock step with Trump, much like his GOP cronies which I hope take the hit in November.

I see a worldwide surge in the virus. In the U.S., it's pretty much in the hands of the states and whatever any research can reveal. What do you want Trump, or Biden, or McConnell, or Pelosi, to do about it?

Gee wiz, how about better messaging from the top from the get go, your blinders need to be adjusted so you can see beyond the narrow vision from your mothers basement window allows.

Gee wiz, how about better messaging from the top from the get go, your blinders need to be adjusted so you can see beyond the narrow vision from your mothers basement window allows.

"from the get go" has got up and gone. And the worldwide messaging, back then, including the WHO and the Democrats was very mixed and anti-lock down, anti-travel restriction, anti-masks, anti-virus being easily transmittable. By the time it became a sort of consensus to the "experts" who had a public voice that all of that seemed to be wrong, the virus had already had the start, worldwide, it needed to implant itself and quietly spread until all of the infections started to show up. Trump's messaging vacillated with the rest of the world, but he took it as seriously as anybody else.

Pete's "I take no responsibility" quote is transformed out of context into a fake meme used to hammer Trump, but if flies in the face of the fact that he took a lot of responsibility from the start of it becoming more serious than world "messaging" implied. He differed on some opinions from some of his experts, such as on hydroxychloroquine, but rarely, if ever, on their major opinions. Whatever Fauci and Byrx asked him to do, he did. He left some things, like masks, up to the public, but didn't say they should not be worn. But even Fauci, and other "experts," early on, had mixed opinions on the efficacy of masks, and lockdowns, etc. Trump's current messaging is far more in line with what you want, I presume.

"from the get go" has got up and gone. And the worldwide messaging, back then, including the WHO and the Democrats was very mixed and anti-lock down, anti-travel restriction, anti-masks, anti-virus being easily transmittable. By the time it became a sort of consensus to the "experts" who had a public voice that all of that seemed to be wrong, the virus had already had the start, worldwide, it needed to implant itself and quietly spread until all of the infections started to show up. Trump's messaging vacillated with the rest of the world, but he took it as seriously as anybody else.

Pete's "I take no responsibility" quote is transformed out of context into a fake meme used to hammer Trump, but if flies in the face of the fact that he took a lot of responsibility from the start of it becoming more serious than world "messaging" implied. He differed on some opinions from some of his experts, such as on hydroxychloroquine, but rarely, if ever, on their major opinions. Whatever Fauci and Byrx asked him to do, he did. He left some things, like masks, up to the public, but didn't say they should not be worn. But even Fauci, and other "experts," early on, had mixed opinions on the efficacy of masks, and lockdowns, etc. Trump's current messaging is far more in line with what you want, I presume.
And this is a pile of bull#^&#^&#^&#^&.
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And this is a pile of bull#^&#^&#^&#^&.
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Well put. Very persuasive to many folks. The dumbing down of the American people.

Well put. Very persuasive to many folks. The dumbing down of the American people.
The 150,000 and likely a matching number to come and their grieving families might view the BS coming from the top differently. You as always defend regardless, as predictable as Trump. How do you live being a mini me, no thoughts of your own, spouting the party line.
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Well put. Very persuasive to many folks. The dumbing down of the American people.
The people see it. It is why long-standing Republicans are fleeing Trump.
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Don’t take the ��
Leave it for our resident ��

The 150,000 and likely a matching number to come and their grieving families might view the BS coming from the top differently. You as always defend regardless, as predictable as Trump. How do you live being a mini me, no thoughts of your own, spouting the party line.
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I'll take your well thought out and original comments as gospel truth. Thank you. And keep up your flow of original thinking. Things none of us have heard. Not even, I presume, the media, since you don't regurgitate media messaging.

Funny original thinking for a minion without any!
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The people see it. It is why long-standing Republicans are fleeing Trump.
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Wait . . . let me follow the chain of thought here . . . your dumbed down comment was a response to what I said . . . and the people see it . . . that is they see that what I said is a pile of bull#^&#^&#^&#^&. . . and that pile is why long-standing Republicans are fleeing Trump?

Damn . . . I didn't realize I had so much influence on long-standing Republicans.

Oh let’s examine that, your in mommies basement in the Midwest, trolling a NE striper fishing website with minimal membership and you think you’ve got influence, please come outside for a breath of air to clear your head.
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Oh let’s examine that, your in mommies basement in the Midwest, trolling a NE striper fishing website with minimal membership and you think you’ve got influence, please come outside for a breath of air to clear your head.
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Check with Spence. He said the people see my "pile of bull#^&#^&#^&#^&." And that's why long-standing Republicans are leaving Trump.

BTW, my mother died three years ago. She was 101. And even with her dementia, she saw things more clearly than you. But thanks for mentioning her so often. She was quite a resourceful and independent woman.

Oh I see right thru Trump’s BS years back, but some are a bit slow to catch up or refuse as they see the alternative as offense, but glad to hear mom lived a long full life!
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Oh I see right thru Trump’s BS years back, but some are a bit slow to catch up or refuse as they see the alternative as offense, but glad to hear mom lived a long full life!
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Thanks for your thought about my mom. As for Trump's BS years back, it's water under the bridge. Not many politicians Trump's age have a BS free past years back.

Nor do I see any Democrat doing anything better than Trump on the economy nor even the virus. All they have done about either is demonize, complain, accuse, lie, and try to gaslight the public into voting against Trump rather than voting for them. They have not proposed anything helpful. Voting for them is a fool's errand, unless you want to replace our constitutional system with an unhampered totally regulatory system.

That is the discussion we should be having, rather than discussing which creep is the best one to vote for.

You forget who captains the ship and controls the senate, Trump and his reactive as opposed to proactive leadership has this death toll and economy in a death spiral.

You forget who captains the ship and controls the senate, Trump and his reactive as opposed to proactive leadership has this death toll and economy in a death spiral.

Well . . . I don't want to go back to that captain of the ship meme which we already discussed a while back. Suffice it to say, I don't believe he is the captain of the ship of state. I don't even subscribe to the notion that our country and its way of governing is at all like a ship and the way it is captained. He is captain of the executive branch of the federal government. No more. The mistake, that has been deliberately planted in our sometimes mindless skulls, that such an analogy exists, leads us into the very way of thinking that is suitable for transforming our limited government into an unlimited one.

As for the rest, sometimes it is necessary to react. Sometimes it is necessary to act. He has done both, when needed in terms of the virus and the economy. And he can only do so as President with limited powers, not as the sometimes wished for autocrat who must be responsible for everything. And the economy is surprisingly doing better than expected under the circumstances.