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Jim in CT
08-05-2020, 09:21 AM
Keith Elison, the liberal zealot prosecuting the cops in MN, had the full video, but said he wasn't going to release it, because it might jeopardize his successful prosecution (I think he's supposed to hope for justice, not convictions?).

God knows no one in the American media cared enough to ask for the full video, they were too busy gleefully fanning the flames of racial tensions in the hopes of swaying the election. Took a British outlet to get it.

I watched the video last night, and its obvious why Elison wouldn't release it, and why the liberal media sure wasn't going to ask for it.

The video certainly does not clear the officers of any and all wrongdoing, there's a chance there's still a crime there. What it does clearly show, is that Floyd was completely out of his mind before the cops arrived, and that he was in serious duress. Also, the video shows exactly zero evidence, literally zero, that race had anything whatsoever to do with this. Floyd had a lot of Fentanyl in his system, which can cause respiratory failure.

I'm old enough to remember when we were told that the Covington kids were a bunch of racists, that the Duke lacrosse players were guilty, that Darren Wilson shot Michael Brown as Brown said "hands up don't shoot.'

The social justice warriors who pushed the narrative that this was a racist assassination and nothing more, are no better than Al Sharpton at his worst.

ANYTHING to push the narrative, regardless of the costs. All those riots, probably for nothing. People murdered, property destroyed, god knows how many people fired.

Maybe we get the facts first?

When Trump called the media the enemy of the people, I was sickened by that. I thought it was a terrible thing to say. Turns out he wasn't that far off.

Pete F.
08-05-2020, 09:35 AM
Elijah McClain

Ahmoud Arbery

Rayshard Brooks

Breonna Taylor

Sandra Bland

Sean Reed

Tamir Rice

Eric Garner

Oscar Grant

Michael Brown

Walter Scott

Freddie Gray

Dante Parker
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Jim in CT
08-05-2020, 10:10 AM
Elijah McClain

Ahmoud Arbery

Rayshard Brooks

Breonna Taylor

Sandra Bland

Sean Reed

Tamir Rice

Eric Garner

Oscar Grant

Michael Brown

Walter Scott

Freddie Gray

Dante Parker
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pete, if i ever said anything as stupid as “ there is no such thing as police misconduct”, your response
might be pertinent. I didn’t, so it's not.

more blacks were murdered by other blacks in chicago last weekend, than are on your list. but liberals in the media aren’t talking about that, and therefore you don’t care, and its all because that issue ( black on black violence) isn’t a political winner for democrats.

Convince us that i’m wrong.
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scottw
08-05-2020, 10:15 AM
Rayshard Brooks drove around so drunk he's lucky he didn't kill an innocent citizen, assaulted two police officers, took a weapon from one of them and pointed it at him...getting shot was his choice

detbuch
08-05-2020, 10:22 AM
When Trump called the media the enemy of the people, I was sickened by that. I thought it was a terrible thing to say. Turns out he wasn't that far off.

Jim, it's the leftist trick to say Trump called the media the enemy of the people. He said fake news is the enemy of the people. Deliberately leaving out his word "fake" when supposedly quoting him creates the false (fake) impression that he meant all media or all news or media or news in general.

Language twisting and word redefinition is a prominent feature of propaganda.

Pete F.
08-05-2020, 10:46 AM
Now do Breonna Taylor

Some people still don’t get it.

A white man named Adam Zaborowski who didn't want to wear a mask, sprayed his AK-47 at a bunch of police officers. He was arrested alive and awaits trial.

A black man with a drug problem named George Floyd bought some cigarettes using a fake $20 bill. He had a panic attack or a drug reaction, was dragged around at gunpoint, and had a knee on his neck for 8 min as he begs for his life.

Jim in CT
08-05-2020, 10:48 AM
Rayshard Brooks drove around so drunk he's lucky he didn't kill an innocent citizen, assaulted two police officers, took a weapon from one of them and pointed it at him...getting shot was his choice

I didn't know anything about that case. Interesting that he chose to include it.

The Narrative. It's all that matters.

detbuch
08-05-2020, 10:48 AM
Now do Breonna Taylor

Some people still don’t get it.

A white man named Adam Zaborowski who didn't want to wear a mask, sprayed his AK-47 at a bunch of police officers. He was arrested alive and awaits trial.

A black man with a drug problem named George Floyd bought some cigarettes using a fake $20 bill. He had a panic attack or a drug reaction, was dragged around at gunpoint, and had a knee on his neck for 8 min as he begs for his life.

This is supposed to mean something?

detbuch
08-05-2020, 10:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=_c-E_i8Q5G0&feature=emb_logo

Jim in CT
08-05-2020, 10:59 AM
This is supposed to mean something?

It's supposed to mean conservative=bad. It doesn't come close to meaning that, but that's what Pete and everyone on the left want this to mean.

It would be nice if seeing the additional bodycam footage, woke people up to the obvious lying and manipulation that happened here. It would be nice if this blew up in the face of the people who did it. We were told this was a case of a race-based lynching, pure and simple. And anyone who dared to question that, was a racist.

Facts matter.

Sea Dangles
08-05-2020, 11:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=_c-E_i8Q5G0&feature=emb_logo

I missed the rioting here.

wdmso
08-05-2020, 11:13 AM
jim your post ... this is what Unconscious Bias and Unintentional Racism looks like


The video certainly does not clear the officers of any and all wrongdoing, there's a chance there's still a crime there.( they can still get off )What it does clearly show, is that Floyd was completely out of his mind [/COLOR] (so they were justified in leaning on his neck for 8 min killing him and reason they could get off ) before the cops arrived, and that he was in serious duress. Also, the video shows exactly zero evidence, literally zero, that race had anything whatsoever to do with this.

your last statement is amazing . not sure how you can look at this incident without looking at the how that department conducts policing historically .. like I said this is what Unconscious Bias and Unintentional Racism looks like

wdmso
08-05-2020, 11:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=_c-E_i8Q5G0&feature=emb_logo


The Dallas Morning News obtained body camera footage that was tied up in a legal battle for three years. The videos show Dallas Police responding after Tony Timpa called 911 and told dispatchers he was off his medication and had used cocaine.





Another example Unconscious Bias and Unintentional Racism looks like

must have been the liberal media not wanting it to be released and because he was white there is no way what happened to floyd could be seen as a racist incident .... dont forget the riot part
:faga:

Jim in CT
08-05-2020, 11:19 AM
A black man with a drug problem named George Floyd bought some cigarettes using a fake $20 bill. He had a panic attack or a drug reaction, was dragged around at gunpoint, and had a knee on his neck for 8 min as he begs for his life.

"was dragged around at gunpoint"

So when the police tell someone to get in the back of the police car, and that person says "no" and resists, what are the police supposed to do, if not force the guy where they want him to go?

If he died from Fentanyl (and that's still a big 'if' but a possibility that cannot be eliminated), his death was his fault.

And that still doesn't mean that the cops didn't do anything wrong. But 'dragging him around' is about as misleading as it gets, but typical for you. If he didn't want to be forcibly moved around, he had the chance to willingly get into the police car. He chose not to do so. That's on him.

OBVIOUSLY, had he complied, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Equally obviously, the media coverage here (like with Duke lacrosse, Covington Catholic, Darren Wilson) was spectacularly wrong.

How about the media reports facts? Or at least reasonable opinions? If Hilary had won in 2016, this event would have been covered very differently.

Jim in CT
08-05-2020, 11:25 AM
jim your post ... this is what Unconscious Bias and Unintentional Racism looks like


The video certainly does not clear the officers of any and all wrongdoing, there's a chance there's still a crime there.( so they were justified in leaning on his neck for 8 min )What it does clearly show, is that Floyd was completely out of his mind [/COLOR] (so they were justified in leaning on his neck for 8 min killing him and reason they could get off ) before the cops arrived, and that he was in serious duress. Also, the video shows exactly zero evidence, literally zero, that race had anything whatsoever to do with this.

your last statement is amazing . not sure how you can look at this incident without looking at the how that department conducts policing historically .. like I said this is what Unconscious Bias and Unintentional Racism looks like

Jim: "The video certainly does not clear the officers of any and all wrongdoing, there's a chance there's still a crime there"

WDMSO: "so they were justified in leaning on his neck for 8 min "

This is where we are in this country. I say they may be guilty of a crime, you claim that I said they were justified. We are deep into the Twilight Zone.

"they could still get off.."

Of course. There hasn't been a trial yet, we don't know much of what we need to know. Of course they could get off. That's how it works. That's how it's supposed to work.

Then you say it's "amazing" that I said there's no evidence of racism. OK. Please tell us, where in that video footage, you see evidence of racism. We are all ears.

detbuch
08-05-2020, 11:36 AM
The Dallas Morning News obtained body camera footage that was tied up in a legal battle for three years. The videos show Dallas Police responding after Tony Timpa called 911 and told dispatchers he was off his medication and had used cocaine.





Another example Unconscious Bias and Unintentional Racism looks like

must have been the liberal media not wanting it to be released and because he was white there is no way what happened to floyd could be seen as a racist incident .... dont forget the riot part
:faga:

The video shows unintentional racism against people whose first and last name begins with a T. The People Whose Names Begin With a T movement has not yet been started, so awareness of this insidious racism has not yet been given a voice. This may have been the first video recorded incidence of such a racist crime. Investigations need to be made so it doesn't happen again and before it becomes systemic.

Jim in CT
08-05-2020, 11:49 AM
there is no way what happened to floyd could be seen as a racist incident .... a:

I didn't say that. I said that the video provides zero evidence that racism was involved. If that's wrong, please show us where in the video there's evidence of racism.

scottw
08-05-2020, 12:41 PM
I didn't say that. I said that the video provides zero evidence that racism was involved. If that's wrong, please show us where in the video there's evidence of racism.

you can't see it...it's invisible but wayne can detect it with his special glasses

The Dad Fisherman
08-05-2020, 01:16 PM
It’s Unicorn Racism :rolleyes:

It only exists in his imagination

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Jim in CT
08-05-2020, 01:21 PM
It’s Unicorn Racism :rolleyes:

It only exists in his imagination

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Innocent people are dead, because of the way this was spun.

Pete F.
08-05-2020, 02:43 PM
The Democratic convention will feature a tribute to John Lewis. Meanwhile Republican operatives are sneaking around trying to get Kanye West on the ballot to divert a few votes from Joe Biden. I'm afraid this says it all about the two parties' attitudes towards Black Americans.
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detbuch
08-05-2020, 03:09 PM
The Democratic convention will feature a tribute to John Lewis. Meanwhile Republican operatives are sneaking around trying to get Kanye West on the ballot to divert a few votes from Joe Biden. I'm afraid this says it all about the two parties' attitudes towards Black Americans.
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You mean like seeking a black woman as Vice President to siphen a few votes toward the Dems and away from blacks or women who might consider voting for Repubs says it all about the Dems attitudes towards Black Americans and towards women?

RickBomba
08-05-2020, 03:39 PM
You mean like seeking a black woman as Vice President to siphen a few votes toward the Dems and away from blacks or women who might consider voting for Repubs says it all about the Dems attitudes towards Black Americans and towards women?

Just like Roger Stone says, “All’s Fair Game in Politics.”
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detbuch
08-05-2020, 04:25 PM
Just like Roger Stone says, “All’s Fair Game in Politics.”
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Yeah, and the Dems and Repubs all agree with Stone there. But Pete seems to think it's only the Repubs.

detbuch
08-05-2020, 04:25 PM
The Dallas Morning News obtained body camera footage that was tied up in a legal battle for three years. The videos show Dallas Police responding after Tony Timpa called 911 and told dispatchers he was off his medication and had used cocaine.

Another example Unconscious Bias and Unintentional Racism looks like

must have been the liberal media not wanting it to be released and because he was white there is no way what happened to floyd could be seen as a racist incident .... dont forget the riot part


Showing the Tony Timpa video was not saying, unintentionally or otherwise, that what happened to Floyd cannot be seen as a racist incidence. It was explicit evidence that that what happened to Floyd must not necessarily be seen as a racist incidence.

The Floyd video was far more evidence that the police may have committed a crime than that it was a racist act . And that is what they are being accused of and tried for.

The Floyd video shows no evidence of racism other than invoking the inference in some that a white cop killing a black man is, ipso facto, a racist act. It also creates an opportunity for those with larger agendas to vocally and publicly proclaim that inference as fact, and use it to call attention to their grievances. Sometimes, often, intentionally creating far more destruction, mayhem, and loss of life than the incident they claim to be protesting about.

spence
08-05-2020, 04:31 PM
I think you guys are missing the obvious, that many black people believe if the police detain them they're going to die. If you're on something that would just exacerbate the situation. The George Floyd incident was not misreported at all.

The Dad Fisherman
08-05-2020, 04:45 PM
Well maybe the media should stop filling their heads with that false narrative.
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spence
08-05-2020, 05:44 PM
Well maybe the media should stop filling their heads with that false narrative.
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Most of the nation disagrees with you.
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The Dad Fisherman
08-05-2020, 06:13 PM
Most of the nation disagrees with you.
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No, they don’t. It’s just that you hear from the loud obnoxious ones all the time.
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spence
08-05-2020, 06:24 PM
No, they don’t. It’s just that you hear from the loud obnoxious ones all the time.
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So everybody is stupid. Great. There goes your common sense argument.
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The Dad Fisherman
08-05-2020, 06:55 PM
So everybody is stupid. Great. There goes your common sense argument.
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Look at you, listening to the voices in your head telling you to hear things that were never said.

Not that there’s not plenty of “Stupid” Free-Ranging out there.
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spence
08-05-2020, 07:11 PM
Look at you, listening to the voices in your head telling you to hear things that were never said.

Not that there’s not plenty of “Stupid” Free-Ranging out there.
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I.e. dodge
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The Dad Fisherman
08-05-2020, 08:27 PM
I.e. dodge
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You are the master
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Pete F.
08-05-2020, 09:03 PM
Because nothing says Catholic like guns. And because when I think of Jesus, l naturally think of firearms, like the one he used to defend himself against the Roman centurions.
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Sea Dangles
08-05-2020, 10:17 PM
I like the dialogue here tonight. I also think we learned a lot about each other. Is PeteF allowed to start threads in other forums? His insight is always enlightening as well as refreshing. It is nice to see he and Jeff agree politically as well as philosophically for a change. Surely cut from the same cloth. Good stuff

wdmso
08-06-2020, 08:29 AM
It’s Unicorn Racism :rolleyes:

It only exists in his imagination

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found another Unicorn ... and if you think a white family would have been treated the same way .. your in denial and Unconscious Bias and Unintentional Racism is strong in you

but many here were upset with Armed officers arresting Roger Stone.. and started a thread about it? as if he was treated like these people .. the line from the chief that's our protocol call .. seems common sense is contraband.. is also a protocol

Can't wait for the usual suggestions on How the Family should have done this or that ,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJAhHE-w1ZA

The Dad Fisherman
08-06-2020, 10:05 AM
Would you like me to tell you where you can put your Unconscious Bias and Unintentional Racism, because I'm pretty sure there is plenty of room for it there.
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detbuch
08-06-2020, 10:35 AM
found another Unicorn ... and if you think a white family would have been treated the same way .. your in denial and Unconscious Bias and Unintentional Racism is strong in you

but many here were upset with Armed officers arresting Roger Stone.. and started a thread about it? as if he was treated like these people .. the line from the chief that's our protocol call .. seems common sense is contraband.. is also a protocol

Can't wait for the usual suggestions on How the Family should have done this or that ,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJAhHE-w1ZA

Did the licence plate the officers responded to indicate that the drivers were black?

detbuch
08-06-2020, 10:38 AM
Would you like me to tell you where you can put your Unconscious Bias and Unintentional Racism, because I'm pretty sure there is plenty of room for it there.
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I think wdmso read or heard about unintentional racism and it sounded real good to him so he will insert the notion every chance he gets. I looked it up, and, to me it is basically typical sociology nonsense.

Jim in CT
08-06-2020, 10:58 AM
The Democratic convention will feature a tribute to John Lewis. Meanwhile Republican operatives are sneaking around trying to get Kanye West on the ballot to divert a few votes from Joe Biden. I'm afraid this says it all about the two parties' attitudes towards Black Americans.
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The riots taking place in many major cities, fueled by baseless claims that Floyd was killed because he was black, that says nothing about the current state of the DNC?

I like the examples you picked. Very representative of all that's going on.

If only the DNC would dedicate 5 seconds to black on black violence, and the fatherlessness that causes it.

Jim in CT
08-06-2020, 11:00 AM
I think you guys are missing the obvious, that many black people believe if the police detain them they're going to die. If you're on something that would just exacerbate the situation. The George Floyd incident was not misreported at all.

It wasn't reported as being based on race? Not at all?

Jim in CT
08-06-2020, 11:04 AM
No, they don’t. It’s just that you hear from the loud obnoxious ones all the time.
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That is EXACTLY correct. .

Jim in CT
08-06-2020, 11:22 AM
I think you guys are missing the obvious, that many black people believe if the police detain them they're going to die. If you're on something that would just exacerbate the situation. The George Floyd incident was not misreported at all.

"many black people believe if the police detain them they're going to die"

I agree they think that.

But is it supported by the data? How many cooperative black detainees get killed in police custody?

Liberals are wildly distorting the threat posed by police, and doing it to win elections (who cares that the byproduct is a few murdered cops). The Washington Post says that 9 unarmed blacks were killed by police in the country in 2019. Yet its spun as an epidemic.

The media doesn't ever report on the facts, because the facts don't support The Narrative.

scottw
08-06-2020, 11:55 AM
"many black people believe if the police detain them they're going to die"

I agree they think that.

But is it supported by the data? How many cooperative black detainees get killed in police custody?



yeah I'd like to see the numbers on how many actually believe if they are detained they are going to die....that's a pretty racist assumption suggesting that people aren't smart enough to know that this is simply not the case....

stay woke...

Pete F.
08-06-2020, 12:47 PM
Those foolish people, just worried about nothing.

Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina -- who is the only African-American Republican in U.S. Senate -- delivered an emotional floor speech Wednesday about the unfair police scrutiny he has faced over his life because he is a black man.

"In the course of one year, I've been stopped seven times by law enforcement," Scott said. "Not four, not five, not six, but seven times in one year as an elected official."
The speech was the second of three the conservative first-term senator is delivering this week related to the fatal shootings of two African-American men by white police officers and the sniper attack that killed five Dallas police officers by a black man angry over police mistreatment of African-Americans.

Scott described this speech as "the most difficult because it is the most personal."
"In many cities and towns across America, there is a deep divide between the black community and law enforcement. A trust gap, a tension that has been growing for decades. And as a family, one American family, we cannot ignore these issues," Scott said.
"I can certainly remember the very first time that I was pulled over by a police officer as just a youngster. I was driving a car that had an improper headlight," Scott said. "The cop came over to my car, hand on his gun and said, 'Boy, don't you know your headlight is not working properly?' I felt embarrassed, ashamed, and scared, very scared."
Holding up two fingers, Scott said there were times when he was pulled over that he was speeding.
"But the vast majority of the time I was pulled over for nothing more than driving a new car in the wrong neighborhood or some other reason just as trivial," he said.
Scott described drawing the attention of a police officer once as he drove out of a shopping mall. The cop pulled right behind Scott and followed him as he drove home, taking three left turns along the way.
"Finally, I took a fourth left coming into my apartment complex and then the blue lights went on. The officer approached the car and said that I did not -- I did not use my turn signal on the fourth turn," Scott said. "Do you really think that somehow I forgot to use my turn signal on the fourth turn?"
Another time Scott says he was pulled over by an officer who accused him of stealing the car he was driving. The senator recounted how his brother, who was a high-ranking enlisted man in the Army, was accused of the same thing when he was driving home one day in a Volvo.
Scott also described the plight of a former staffer who sold his "nice car" because he was so "tired of being targeted" by suspicious police.
"Imagine the frustration, the irritation, the sense of loss of dignity that accompanies each of those stops, even here on Capitol Hill," Scott said.
Scott said he has even faced problems with U.S. Capitol Police as he has arrived at work. The officers are trained to recognize all lawmakers but Scott said he has faced "attitude" and forced to show his identification to get in. On three separate occasions, he has received calls of apology from a supervisor or the chief of the Capitol Police over the way he was treated, Scott said.
In his speech, Scott also praised police and the dangerous work they do.
"There is never, ever an acceptable reason to harm a member of our law enforcement community," he said.
At the end of his speech, Scott pleaded with Americans who don't face racism not to ignore the plight of those who do.
"Recognize that just because you do not feel the pain, the anguish of another, does not mean it does not exist. To ignore their struggles, our struggles, does not make them disappear. It simply leaves you blind and the American family very vulnerable," he said.
"Some search so hard to explain away injustice that they are slowly wiping away who we are as a nation. But we must come together to fulfill what we all know is possible here in America: Peace, love, and understanding. Fairness," Scott said.

The Dad Fisherman
08-06-2020, 12:48 PM
And yet he's still alive to tell his tale.
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Jim in CT
08-06-2020, 01:05 PM
Those foolish people, just worried about nothing.

Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina -- who is the only African-American Republican in U.S. Senate -- delivered an emotional floor speech Wednesday about the unfair police scrutiny he has faced over his life because he is a black man.

"In the course of one year, I've been stopped seven times by law enforcement," Scott said. "Not four, not five, not six, but seven times in one year as an elected official."
The speech was the second of three the conservative first-term senator is delivering this week related to the fatal shootings of two African-American men by white police officers and the sniper attack that killed five Dallas police officers by a black man angry over police mistreatment of African-Americans.

Scott described this speech as "the most difficult because it is the most personal."
"In many cities and towns across America, there is a deep divide between the black community and law enforcement. A trust gap, a tension that has been growing for decades. And as a family, one American family, we cannot ignore these issues," Scott said.
"I can certainly remember the very first time that I was pulled over by a police officer as just a youngster. I was driving a car that had an improper headlight," Scott said. "The cop came over to my car, hand on his gun and said, 'Boy, don't you know your headlight is not working properly?' I felt embarrassed, ashamed, and scared, very scared."
Holding up two fingers, Scott said there were times when he was pulled over that he was speeding.
"But the vast majority of the time I was pulled over for nothing more than driving a new car in the wrong neighborhood or some other reason just as trivial," he said.
Scott described drawing the attention of a police officer once as he drove out of a shopping mall. The cop pulled right behind Scott and followed him as he drove home, taking three left turns along the way.
"Finally, I took a fourth left coming into my apartment complex and then the blue lights went on. The officer approached the car and said that I did not -- I did not use my turn signal on the fourth turn," Scott said. "Do you really think that somehow I forgot to use my turn signal on the fourth turn?"
Another time Scott says he was pulled over by an officer who accused him of stealing the car he was driving. The senator recounted how his brother, who was a high-ranking enlisted man in the Army, was accused of the same thing when he was driving home one day in a Volvo.
Scott also described the plight of a former staffer who sold his "nice car" because he was so "tired of being targeted" by suspicious police.
"Imagine the frustration, the irritation, the sense of loss of dignity that accompanies each of those stops, even here on Capitol Hill," Scott said.
Scott said he has even faced problems with U.S. Capitol Police as he has arrived at work. The officers are trained to recognize all lawmakers but Scott said he has faced "attitude" and forced to show his identification to get in. On three separate occasions, he has received calls of apology from a supervisor or the chief of the Capitol Police over the way he was treated, Scott said.
In his speech, Scott also praised police and the dangerous work they do.
"There is never, ever an acceptable reason to harm a member of our law enforcement community," he said.
At the end of his speech, Scott pleaded with Americans who don't face racism not to ignore the plight of those who do.
"Recognize that just because you do not feel the pain, the anguish of another, does not mean it does not exist. To ignore their struggles, our struggles, does not make them disappear. It simply leaves you blind and the American family very vulnerable," he said.
"Some search so hard to explain away injustice that they are slowly wiping away who we are as a nation. But we must come together to fulfill what we all know is possible here in America: Peace, love, and understanding. Fairness," Scott said.

Right, because getting pulled over for no reason, is the same as being murdered. Talk about moving the goalposts!

I have no doubt that blacks are more likely to get pulled over for no good reason, than whites. We can, and should, work on that.

That's not what caused the riots and mayhem the last 2 months. That was caused by liberals lying, saying that the police in this country have declared a race war against blacks, and are murdering them in meaningful numbers.

A carefully orchestrated diversion, to distract attention away from the fact that liberalism has done a thousand times more harm to the black community, than the police will ever do.

Jim in CT
08-06-2020, 01:05 PM
And yet he's still alive to tell his tale.
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Now that you mention it!

Pete F.
08-06-2020, 01:24 PM
And yet he's still alive to tell his tale.
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So, it's OK as long as they don't get killed. Just profiled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V94Lphx6z6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Pt1nkw3Mk

Jim in CT
08-06-2020, 01:33 PM
So, it's OK as long as they don't get killed. Just profiled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V94Lphx6z6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Pt1nkw3Mk

so why is it more appropriate to blame all cops for the actions of a tiny tiny number within their ranks, than it is to hold all blacks accountable for what a small number of bad apples in their ranks do?

Pete, can you provide any evidence at all, and i mean anything, to suggest that race played a role in Floyd’s death? did his own scumbaggery play any role?
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Jim in CT
08-06-2020, 01:36 PM
The George Floyd incident was not misreported at all.

headline: that racism led to his death.

evidence to support that: zip.

I could post 50 of these if you’d like.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-52928304
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Pete F.
08-06-2020, 01:41 PM
If it was only one case.............
If it was only one officer...........

The Dad Fisherman
08-06-2020, 01:42 PM
So, it's OK as long as they don't get killed. Just profiled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V94Lphx6z6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Pt1nkw3Mk

Yeah, that's exactly what I said :rolleyes:
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Jim in CT
08-06-2020, 02:11 PM
If it was only one case.............
If it was only one officer...........

again, using YOUR logic, why can't we hold all blacks accountable for what happens in Chicago and Baltimore? After all, more blacks kill other blacks, than cops who kill unarmed citizens?

How would you begin to squirm your way out of that question?

Jim in CT
08-06-2020, 02:12 PM
Yeah, that's exactly what I said :rolleyes:
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They like responding to things that were never said, don't they?

wdmso
08-06-2020, 02:42 PM
As expected not one if of tbe usual suspects see anything wrong with what happen to these people . ..

Car theifs allways steal cars with their children .. and 6 year old may be packing a piece you never know...

I'll even give them the benfit of the doubt when they 1st approached with weapons drawn .. i get it

But they never adjusted their treatment when they saw their were children .. now i know why the police don't care they have citizens like you all who excuse away their behavior because it hasn't happened to you.. it amazing to read your responses you dont disappoint 👏
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The Dad Fisherman
08-06-2020, 02:51 PM
I'm not commenting on "These people", I'm commenting on George Floyd.

And I've had a cop draw a gun on me before, you know what I did, exactly what he told me to do. That's how it works.
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Jim in CT
08-06-2020, 08:23 PM
As expected not one if of tbe usual suspects see anything wrong with what happen to these people . ..


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are you disabled? or just a liar?

read. my. post. i said there’s a chance a crime was committed, meaning that there’s a chance there was misconduct.

please show us any evidence at all, any at all, that race played a factor. you can’t. because there isn’t any. and you can’t admit it, because it doesn’t serve the narrative.

zero evidence of racism at work. absolutely zilch. the riots were based on a lie. .
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Jim in CT
08-06-2020, 09:08 PM
As expected not one if of tbe usual suspects see anything wrong with what happen to these people . ..


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are you disabled? or just a liar?

read. my. post. i said there’s a chance a crime was committed, meaning that there’s a chance there was misconduct.

please show us any evidence at all, any at all, that race played a factor. you can’t. because there isn’t any. and you can’t admit it, because it doesn’t serve the narrative.

zero evidence of racism at work. absolutely zilch. the riots were based on a lie. .
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wdmso
08-07-2020, 04:10 AM
are you disabled? or just a liar?

read. my. post. i said there’s a chance a crime was committed, meaning that there’s a chance there was misconduct.

please show us any evidence at all, any at all, that race played a factor. you can’t. because there isn’t any. and you can’t admit it, because it doesn’t serve the narrative.

zero evidence of racism at work. absolutely zilch. the riots were based on a lie. .
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My comment was towards the incident with the car full of children.. follow along..
But since you brought it up

to even suggest theres a chance of misconduct. Says volumes! And not your objectivity, and the video doesn't show racism ? How would it . A racial slur ? A white hood? By making that claim you have zero maybe less than zero how racism works . you should have just said it is what it is ..

Because for blacks its just that ,and has been for decades.. all you need to do is listen.. but blaming them is easier you've proven that constantly going on and on about b on b crime family units so on and so forth.. as if no other influence impacts their lives . Because you believe the fantasy that all men are created equal and everone starts at the 1 yard line..

I cant spell or write well i am guilty but man you need to go back and take a history lesson . Not the whitewashed version
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scottw
08-07-2020, 05:33 AM
I think wdmso read or heard about unintentional racism and it sounded real good to him



yup...next he'll be telling us about the caste system...it's all the rage

spence
08-07-2020, 05:41 AM
zero evidence of racism at work. absolutely zilch. the riots were based on a lie. .
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You are the evidence Jim, the protests are about you.
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scottw
08-07-2020, 05:46 AM
now i know why the police don't care they have citizens like you all who excuse away their behavior because it hasn't happened to you.. it amazing to read your responses you dont disappoint 👏

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wayne, what is your issue with the police in general that you make blanket statements like this? it seems there is something deeper.....there is clearly some animosity there

Jim in CT
08-07-2020, 07:39 AM
You are the evidence Jim, the protests are about you.
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PLease elaborate.

scottw
08-07-2020, 07:43 AM
PLease elaborate.

they are protesting the racism that you don't know you are guilty of.....the fact that you don't know that you are guilty is evidence of your white privilege...you could get down on one knee and acknowledge that you are too stupid to know these things but you will still be a racist

Jim in CT
08-07-2020, 08:05 AM
You are the evidence Jim, the protests are about you.
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Because I ask "where is the evidence of racism", I'm a racist? That's what you're saying?

Spence, you're probably smart enough to know this is another in a long line of racial hoaxes (Michael Brown, Duke lacrosse, Covington Catholic, etc). But you aren't nearly honest enough to admit it's a hoax, all you care about is supporting whatever hurts Trump, now matter how much of a fabrication it may be.

In your mind, asking for proof of racism, is evidence of racism. You really believe that?

Jim in CT
08-07-2020, 08:07 AM
they are protesting the racism that you don't know you are guilty of.....the fact that you don't know that you are guilty is evidence of your white privilege...you could get down on one knee and acknowledge that you are too stupid to know these things but you will still be a racist

My asking for evidence of racism, makes me a racist. Because they don't want people asking or questioning anything. Not when defeating Trump is concerned.

Scott, I think Trump gets creamed in November. But if he somehow wins, how will they cope? How much worse will the temper tantrums get?

In December, I'd have said he wins in a landslide, unless there's a crisis. The got their crisis. Crises, actually, covid and a racial hoax right out of Al Sharptons playbook.

scottw
08-07-2020, 08:26 AM
My asking for evidence of racism, makes me a racist. .

and is evidence of your white privilege....

Jim in CT
08-07-2020, 08:34 AM
and is evidence of your white privilege....

which is also, pretty much demonstrably false. In terms of living a good life as an adult, skin color matters very little. Being born into a stable, commited family is way more important, way more of a factor. But that fact doesn't help democrats win elections, so they spin it as white priviledge, instead of "strong family priviledge". Same thing with the gender pay gap. No lie they won't tell.