universal housing :rotf2:


"Teen Vogue recently published an op-ed by columnist Kandist Mallett in which she declared that no one should have the right to own property. She called for the elimination of landlords while averring that “an eviction crisis is coming” due to the coronavirus pandemic’s heavy toll on the United States, which, she says, is evidence of “the failures of capitalism.”

Mallett noted that “The pandemic didn’t create this housing crisis, but it did further expose the cruelty of payment-based housing.”

She rambled on: “Instead of seeing housing as a right and something that should not be commodified, the state enlists its own armed forces—sheriffs and police—to remove occupants from residences if they cannot pay rent. The lack of protections for non-landowners should be to no surprise from a country founded on the genocide and colonization of indigenous peoples.”

Mallett ended by stating, “We need a housing movement based on a rejection of the construct that any one person should own this earth’s land.” Teen Vogue took to Twitter to tout the piece with an excerpt reading, “While we’re working to abolish the police, we must also work to dismantle what the police were put here to protect: property.”

Dan Crenshaw blasts Teen Vogue op-ed advocating end to private property rights
Writer Kandist Mallett's article reads like 'Marxist propaganda,' the Texas congressman


Republicans love screaming communism socialism Marxism if they see a suggestion from anyone

Acting like urinating in the ocean ( her article) and suggesting they'll Turn it yellow..( or the nation red)

Just yesterday

Tucker Carlson: claimed The Left Is Attacking Kanye Because They’re ‘Worried About the Threat’ He Poses to Them

Universal Housing?

I started work framing condos at the age of seventeen in june of '73, before my high school graduation ceremonies took place. Ten hour days and side jobs on weekends helped me bank as much cash as I could. Two years later I had enough for a down payment on a 1 1/2 acre piece of land, while at the same time I learned a lot about carpentry and home building at my job. Also bought a variety of books on construction to teach myself. Paid off that land loan in one year by saving every dollar I could and not buying anything that wasnt a necessity. In '77 when I got engaged.....I built a modest house by myself...with no financial assistance other than a mortgage loan.
My blood, sweat, and tears earned me the "right" to own that property......and no....I dont think paying for it myself was "cruel".

Meanwhile most of my former buddies continued the alchohol and drug abuse kick they were on .....partying......now probably looking for free housing.
You only deserve something if you've worked very hard for it.

Universal Housing?

I started work framing condos at the age of seventeen in june of '73, before my high school graduation ceremonies took place. Ten hour days and side jobs on weekends helped me bank as much cash as I could. Two years later I had enough for a down payment on a 1 1/2 acre piece of land, while at the same time I learned a lot about carpentry and home building at my job. Also bought a variety of books on construction to teach myself. Paid off that land loan in one year by saving every dollar I could and not buying anything that wasnt a necessity. In '77 when I got engaged.....I built a modest house by myself...with no financial assistance other than a mortgage loan.
My blood, sweat, and tears earned me the "right" to own that property......and no....I dont think paying for it myself was "cruel".

Meanwhile most of my former buddies continued the alchohol and drug abuse kick they were on .....partying......now probably looking for free housing.
You only deserve something if you've worked very hard for it.

I agree with what your saying. this is just another OMG sound bite , more concerned over the comments of someone with zero power , yet look the other way with Trumps latest rounds of executive orders which once again distorting presidential powers :btu:

Republicans love screaming communism socialism Marxism if they see a suggestion from anyone



don't know if you are paying attention but it's actually your friends on the left screaming marxism socialism communism :o

I here a lot of people saying they deserve this.... or that.... without having done a damm thing.....I have always associated "deserve" with working diligently to achieve a goal.

Loan officer I first went to was skeptical ... an 19 year old with 1 1/2 years working experience buying vacant land.....he wanted a co-signer.....wouldnt think of asking my parents. Got approved by another lender who knew my employer. Finished building the house by our wedding day...and before my 22nd birthday.

I’m just impressed that Scott reads TeenVogue. Can we get an update on Cardi B?
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universal housing :rotf2:


"Teen Vogue recently published an op-ed by columnist Kandist Mallett in which she declared that no one should have the right to own property. She called for the elimination of landlords while averring that “an eviction crisis is coming” due to the coronavirus pandemic’s heavy toll on the United States, which, she says, is evidence of “the failures of capitalism.”

Mallett noted that “The pandemic didn’t create this housing crisis, but it did further expose the cruelty of payment-based housing.”

She rambled on: “Instead of seeing housing as a right and something that should not be commodified, the state enlists its own armed forces—sheriffs and police—to remove occupants from residences if they cannot pay rent. The lack of protections for non-landowners should be to no surprise from a country founded on the genocide and colonization of indigenous peoples.”

Mallett ended by stating, “We need a housing movement based on a rejection of the construct that any one person should own this earth’s land.” Teen Vogue took to Twitter to tout the piece with an excerpt reading, “While we’re working to abolish the police, we must also work to dismantle what the police were put here to protect: property.”

Rmarsh seemed to have a sensible response to your article. WDMSO's usual deflection. Spence's nonsense.

Rmarsh seemed to have a sensible response to your article. WDMSO's usual deflection. Spence's nonsense.

And your usual insults.
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And your usual insults.
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Glad to oblige.

Rmarsh seemed to have a sensible response to your article. WDMSO's usual deflection. Spence's nonsense.

What deflection the women can suggest what ever she wants i have no worries Her ideas will left in the trash bin of history .. and I am the snowflake

And distorting presidential powers is deflection? Ok
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What deflection the women can suggest what ever she wants i have no worries Her ideas will left in the trash bin of history .. and I am the snowflake
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Well, yeah, anybody can suggest whatever they want, unless, of course, somebody calls it racist, or sexist, or homophobic, or hate speech and various other taboo things one cannot say in the Progressive world of fairness, and justice, and equity . . . I guess it's still OK to say you're a snowflake . . . not sure . . . things change . . . depends on who gets elected into power.

I here a lot of people saying they deserve this.... or that.... without having done a damm thing.....I have always associated "deserve" with working diligently to achieve a goal.

Loan officer I first went to was skeptical ... an 19 year old with 1 1/2 years working experience buying vacant land.....he wanted a co-signer.....wouldnt think of asking my parents. Got approved by another lender who knew my employer. Finished building the house by our wedding day...and before my 22nd birthday.
Try that today with current lending laws.
Actually if the original lending officer is still alive, ask him
The ones I know would tell you, it’s a whole new world
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Try that today with current lending laws.
Actually if the original lending officer is still alive, ask him
The ones I know would tell you, it’s a whole new world
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My motto has always been "failure is not an option".

Well, yeah, anybody can suggest whatever they want, unless, of course, somebody calls it racist, or sexist, or homophobic, or hate speech and various other taboo things one cannot say in the Progressive world of fairness, and justice, and equity . . . I guess it's still OK to say you're a snowflake . . . not sure . . . things change . . . depends on who gets elected into power.

And I said I agreed with Rmarsh did you miss that part ? And focus your monologuing :btu:

And I said I agreed with Rmarsh did you miss that part ? And focus your monologuing :btu:

Your post I responded to didn't say anything about Rmarsh. A previous post by you claimed he said the article in question was an OMG sound bite. I didn't find that claim in Rmarsh's post. If he meant it as that, it doesn't change what he otherwise actually said, which I responded to. And if he actually said it and I missed it, I would dismiss as irrelevant that OMG notion, but still respect the rest of what he said.

I assume that all posts are monologues of some sort. And they all must be focused on in order to post them as intended. You know, like focusing on how the Constitution is written in order to adjudicate by its precepts.

Try that today with current lending laws.
Actually if the original lending officer is still alive, ask him
The ones I know would tell you, it’s a whole new world
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What lending laws would those be?
No one believed that I could build my own home at 21....not even my parents or future in-laws. When I told them they were very skeptical to say the least. Still living here 43 years later.
I learned not to listen to the doubters.

When I was in my twenties I could call the bank they’d put the money in my account and I would stop later and sign.
That bank has since been bought four times at least.
Very few local banks anymore and nothing done without an application and on and on.
Of course there’s very few locally owned businesses also
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When I was in my twenties I could call the bank they’d put the money in my account and I would stop later and sign.
That bank has since been bought four times at least.
Very few local banks anymore and nothing done without an application and on and on.
Of course there’s very few locally owned businesses also


Thank the preferred model of Progressives. Centralized business favored by centralized government regulations. Sure, monopolies can be an advantage for the consumer--so long as there is the possible threat of innovative competition to keep the monopolist honest. When onerous regulations make it difficult for smaller entrepreneurs, they provide a level of protection for monopolists against those smaller competitors.

Big government can more easily have a controlled relationship with a few large companies than tens of thousands of small ones. Big business in crony cooperation with big government is win-win for both.

When I was in my twenties I could call the bank they’d put the money in my account and I would stop later and sign.
That bank has since been bought four times at least.
Very few local banks anymore and nothing done without an application and on and on.
Of course there’s very few locally owned businesses also
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Here's your huckleberry: https://www.cato.org/policy-report/julyaugust-2006/big-business-big-government

What lending laws would those be?
No one believed that I could build my own home at 21....not even my parents or future in-laws. When I told them they were very skeptical to say the least. Still living here 43 years later.
I learned not to listen to the doubters.

great story and beautiful house!, pete is struggling to tread water in his sea of negativity

Here's your huckleberry: https://www.cato.org/policy-report/julyaugust-2006/big-business-big-government

You're correct, now let's follow the money

In the 2014 campaign cycle, people and political action committees associated with commercial banks gave more than $28.2 million to federal candidates, committees, parties and outside money groups that support them. Besides trade groups such as the American Bankers Association, the industry includes financial institutions such as Quicken Loans, Bank of America, Wells Fargo and JPMorgan Chase.

In the early 1990s, the industry split its support between Democrats and Republicans, but since then has heavily favored Republicans, with the exception of the 2008 election cycle. In recent years, the lean has become even more pronounced. In 2014, 72 percent of the industry's donations to candidates and parties, or more than $19 million, went to Republicans.

great story and beautiful house!, pete is struggling to tread water in his sea of negativity


Thanks....Company I work for is selling so many new homes ...pre-construction more than ever.....its getting hard to keep up....at a time in my career where I'd like to slow down. Customers are working class people......getting loans easily with good credit and work history.

Old picture...cutting down first tree.....saved up and bought a chainsaw after that:o

You're correct, now let's follow the money

In the 2014 campaign cycle, people and political action committees associated with commercial banks gave more than $28.2 million to federal candidates, committees, parties and outside money groups that support them. Besides trade groups such as the American Bankers Association, the industry includes financial institutions such as Quicken Loans, Bank of America, Wells Fargo and JPMorgan Chase.

In the early 1990s, the industry split its support between Democrats and Republicans, but since then has heavily favored Republicans, with the exception of the 2008 election cycle. In recent years, the lean has become even more pronounced. In 2014, 72 percent of the industry's donations to candidates and parties, or more than $19 million, went to Republicans.

Generally, not always, corporate money flows to the politicians or party in power or perceived to be coming into power. Probably why who the money goes to fluctuates. For instance there's this:

https://howmuch.net/articles/the-30-biggest-political-donors-on-the-fortune-500

And this:https://www.businessinsider.com/companies-are-influencing-politics-by-donating-millions-to-politicians-2018-9

More to my point, Republicans, in the large picture, differ from Democrats mostly in degree. My concern is with Progressivism vs. constitutionalism. The first Progressive President was Republican Teddy Roosevelt. Republican Herbert Hoover was the Progressive presidential model for FDR. They all cemented and advanced Progressivism into American politics. They all were for centralized power, for the big government-big business complex. Their message was "for the people" but their policies were "for the government." Of course, "for the government" in their eyes was the most efficient way of gaining "for the people." But that turns out to be more wishful thinking than reality.

Both parties have been steadily taking us down the big government big business path. America has had a few "great awakenings" in the past, mostly religious. I think there is a current awakening in progress now. And its mostly political. And it is divided by two different views.

One, perhaps the descendent of the Tea Party, has come to the realization that the Progressive model of centralized government power at the expense of dispersed local power and connected to the centralization and growth of big business over small business was diminishing the opportunities and quality of life for far more than it was helping, and leading us into the oppressive authoritarian nation of homogenized citizens who could only be "diverse" within the "equality" defined by government, a sort of centralization into a uniformity of thought prescribed by big government and supported by big business in its hiring and advertising policies--a dictatorial nation that the U.S. was created to oppose.

The other has been been brewing in different cultural or racial groups, but, perhaps recently preceded and inspired by Occupy Wall Street has now "woke" a far more diverse and greater number to a political, cultural, and economic system in which the "privileged," who are the benefactors of the racist, capitalist founding of this country, control everything, and from whom power must be wrested, either by electing those who will transform this nation away from its racist, capitalist, mean, selfish, unfair system, or transform it by revolution, violent if necessary.

One may tend to vote Republican as the lesser of two evils. The other will vote Democrat as the party that speaks the right rhetoric. Both parties, in different degree, have disappointed. But both have seemed to reach a real point of departure from each other . . . again, by degree.

The Democrats have become less secretive about their Progressive agenda to centralize and grow federal power and about appointing administratively rather than constitutionally oriented judges to the local and Supreme Court systems. They show no sign of departing from their regulatory system of government along with its unavoidable big business/big government complex. Their penchant for control along with their leftist rhetoric and leftist leaning or actual socialist politicians give the best hope, between the two parties, for the "woke" awakening.

The Republicans, in large have not changed much, but been driven around the edges toward a more populist agenda by Donald Trump. The populist shift by the Republicans give a ray of hope to the descendants of the Tea Party that there can be a return to local government power and a constitutional return of power back to the people and a cutback of the regulatory system in order to remove systemic barriers to entrepreneurs, especially individualistic small business ones.

You're correct, now let's follow the money

In the 2014 campaign cycle, people and political action committees associated with commercial banks gave more than $28.2 million to federal candidates, committees, parties and outside money groups that support them. Besides trade groups such as the American Bankers Association, the industry includes financial institutions such as Quicken Loans, Bank of America, Wells Fargo and JPMorgan Chase.

In the early 1990s, the industry split its support between Democrats and Republicans, but since then has heavily favored Republicans, with the exception of the 2008 election cycle. In recent years, the lean has become even more pronounced. In 2014, 72 percent of the industry's donations to candidates and parties, or more than $19 million, went to Republicans.

Since "you're correct" was your response to the Cato article on the symbiotic relationship between big business ang big government, I assume you agreed with the article.

Re your "follow the money" comment that most bank money has recently trended toward Republicans not Dems--does that translate to you that if Dems get control we will see a return of the small neighborhood banks that you prefer?

Do you think that Biden will bring back the small banks? Or the small mom and pop stores? Or the significant rise of small businesses?

The big bank monopoly is not concerned that either party will return us back to the nation of shop owners. Both parties joined to bail the big banks out the last time when they should have been allowed to fail. The banks' reasons for supporting either party would be various other selfish reasons than fear of losing their connection with and support of big government--no doubt couched in altruistic rhetoric when asked why. One possible reason might be that recent Republican policies favor market growth rather than stagnancy or weak market conditions. Strong markets benefit banks. But there are, no doubt, various reasons other than your suggestion that big bank money going to Republicans means, as the Cato article suggests, that Democrats would deregulate and make it easier for small business to grow in number in more effective competition with the big businesses.

In this current election cycle, Biden is getting more Billionaires to fund him than Trump is. So does that mean they think Biden will favor the big business/big government regulatory model and that Trump would deregulate and allow small businesses to compete with the biggies?

I don't think that's their concern. Some may have actually swallowed the notion that Trump will wreck everything. Since they're confident that both parties are, to different degrees, Progressively into the big business/big government connection, they are probably not concerned about losing that. Except, Trump's populism could be a possible problem to their preferred cozy relationship with government . So getting rid of him would clear the way for the Republicans to stay, or get back to being, on board with the Progressive centralization of everything.

Seriously. Do you think voting for Biden would bring back the small banks?

At any rate, if you agree that there is this Progressive big government/big business relationship that strangles out much of the independent small businesses along with the loss, therefor, of much of the middle class, wouldn't that be one of the more important considerations to discuss in this election rather than the reported character of two very blemished candidates? As well, the cultural direction and scope and power of government?

No
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Obvious. You prefer to stay stuck in stupid politics that won't change anything for the good. Getting rid of Trump merely gets us back to the dumbed down progression of government getting bigger. And the citizen getting smaller--a shrinking dependent who constantly bitches about the cost of health care and where is the government program to fix it, and programs to get us jobs, and a program to bring back the middle class, and a program to fix income inequality, and a program to get rid of racism, and a program to get rid of hate, and a program ad infinitum. . .

Biden and the Democrats aren't going to change the government program addiction we suffer from, other than to just make it go more viral. We need a lockdown on spreading it from person to person. We Americans need to deprogram ourselves, to restore the confidence in ourselves that we can handle freedom. Or we will totally lose it.

And we need to see that same sickness existing in the government of our Republic. And we need to deprogram it. Or we will lose it.

Obvious. You prefer to stay stuck in stupid politics that won't change anything for the good. Getting rid of Trump merely gets us back to the dumbed down progression of government getting bigger. And the citizen getting smaller--a shrinking dependent who constantly bitches about the cost of health care and where is the government program to fix it, and programs to get us jobs, and a program to bring back the middle class, and a program to fix income inequality, and a program to get rid of racism, and a program to get rid of hate, and a program ad infinitum. . .

Biden and the Democrats aren't going to change the government program addiction we suffer from, other than to just make it go more viral. We need a lockdown on spreading it from person to person. We Americans need to deprogram ourselves, to restore the confidence in ourselves that we can handle freedom. Or we will totally lose it.

And we need to see that same sickness existing in the government of our Republic. And we need to deprogram it. Or we will lose it.

Thanks for the view based on emotion and nostalgia of a bygone era.... that never existed except the day the country was founded,. Yet your solution to the problem is Trump. A cancer attacking a cancer interesting

Hey you can’t argue merit points with the blue man, he’d rather elect the dumbest president this country has ever seen, that of course is a recipe for disaster on so many fronts; Covid, foreign relations, environment, the list is long.

Thanks for the view based on emotion and nostalgia of a bygone era.... that never existed except the day the country was founded,. Yet your solution to the problem is Trump. A cancer attacking a cancer interesting

If you'd be a bit more specific, we might could have a conversation, but from this pastiche of gobbledygook . . . I don't think so.

Hey you can’t argue merit points with the blue man, he’d rather elect the dumbest president this country has ever seen, that of course is a recipe for disaster on so many fronts; Covid, foreign relations, environment, the list is long.

Actually, you've just spouted a bunch of idiot talking points. You don't actually know who the dumbest President we've ever had is. I doubt that you know very much about 80 or 90 percent of them at best.

You just sit on your rhetorical toilet seat and fart out rude, ignorant, self serving turds of caca wisdom. You've been told about all these phantom "disasters" concocted by Trump and vaguely refer to them as if your pointing out self-evident reality, belching out a "long" list of three: foreign relations (what disaster? What relation has actually has been destroyed? None.), environment (What disaster? Still the same environment as when he got elected), Covid (What disaster that most of the rest of the world isn't suffering?--Germany, Britain, France, Belgium, Spain, Italy--total around 335.7 million population and 156,731 deaths, US population 331.2 million and who knows how many uncounted undocumented aliens with 166,536 deaths).

This is why democracy sucks and why we are a Republic. Average folks vote on misinformation, political propaganda, personalities, slanted biased reports, a lack of understanding how our republic is actually organized under what principles, and what power our different governments actually have, and what responsibility we individuals have, and the notion that government is supposed to give us stuff and do for us what we should do ourselves, and a lot of just plain ignorance.

I don’t need much more evidence than Trumps constant foot in mouth blooper reels, whether it’s geography, history, words for $100, my word line up ten 7th graders and they would kick his ass. Hey he can identify a rhino, lion and camel, so all good in the White House. Your bar for intelligence is way to low.

I don’t need much more evidence than Trumps constant foot in mouth blooper reels, whether it’s geography, history, words for $100, my word line up ten 7th graders and they would kick his ass. Hey he can identify a rhino, lion and camel, so all good in the White House. Your bar for intelligence is way to low.
He's just getting bitter because he's going to get crushed. Don't take it personally.

I don’t need much more evidence than Trumps constant foot in mouth blooper reels, whether it’s geography, history, words for $100, my word line up ten 7th graders and they would kick his ass. Hey he can identify a rhino, lion and camel, so all good in the White House. Your bar for intelligence is way to low.

Low brow sound bite wisdom. Really intelligent. This is why democracy sucks.

If he were intelligent, states wouldn’t be looking at shutting down, if he were intelligent so many wouldn’t have died, testing wouldn’t still be an issue, we wouldn’t have the worst economy since the Great Depression, let’s be honest he has never been and is incapable of leadership.
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If he were intelligent, states wouldn’t be looking at shutting down,

It's not Trump's decision whether states shut down or not. As far as his federal responsibility, he followed the directions of the experts like Fauci, whom everybody on the left admires. He did a very good job of helping the states replenish the supplies that the states had been responsible for keeping up. He gave NY everything it asked for and more, and Cuomo actually praised him for it, but later reverted to Dem talking points. He did what the playbook left behind directed. He helped the incompetent CDC he inherited straighten out and finally produce test kits. The U.S has a massive testing regime as a result of his efforts. He instituted travel bans on China and Europe that the WHO and dems called racist and overreactive, but which Fauci said saved many lives. He instituted a hurry up campaign to find a vaccine much sooner than the usual and expected time frame.
He wasn't just playing golf or being stupid.

if he were intelligent so many wouldn’t have died, (I just showed you the stats comparing deaths in six major European countries whose total population is very similar to the U.S. and who suffered close to the same amount of deaths.) We are a vastly different country than the rest of the world, with far more complicated, divisive, reactionary, and obstructive structure, parties, and population than the rest of the world. With all of that to overcome, we have done reasonably well.

testing wouldn’t still be an issue,

Whatever testing glitches we still have are a not a result of Trump's IQ. Some other technical "experts", no doubt, have been ordered to fix it.

we wouldn’t have the worst economy since the Great Depression, let’s be honest he has never been and is incapable of leadership.
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Talk about "let's be honest"!!! The world economy has collapsed due to this virus. Shutting down the economy, which all the experts and Dems said was necessary, could do nothing but destroy the economy. You would not give him credit for the best economy in the world before the pandemic, but you sure as hell blame him and his intelligence for something he could not have prevented. Are you saying he shouldn't have gone along with the shutdown? And even if he had, the Dems and experts in the various states would have done it.

What you're doing here is pure propaganda.

I can’t read blue and yet there you go and politics fun!
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Talk about "let's be honest"!!! The world economy has collapsed due to this virus. Shutting down the economy, which all the experts and Dems said was necessary, could do nothing but destroy the economy. You would not give him credit for the best economy in the world before the pandemic, but you sure as hell blame him and his intelligence for something he could not have prevented. Are you saying he shouldn't have gone along with the shutdown? And even if he had, the Dems and experts in the various states would have done it.

What you're doing here is pure propaganda.

You keep repeating the same propaganda.
Look at the rest of the developed world.
They recognized the problem, used the pandemic plan developed by the WHO in coordination with the USA for previous threats, immediately started sourcing PPE, Tests and developing tracking/tracing protocols.
They are on the road to control of this pandemic and their economies are recovering.
Meanwhile Tweety claimed it was a hoax, would one day disappear, end with warm weather and on and on.
His failure to lead in this disaster is destroying whatever claims to greatness he could have made.
Now he’s moved to important stuff like saving us from low flow showerheads and energy saving light bulbs
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You keep repeating the same propaganda.

It's not propaganda.

Look at the rest of the developed world.

I did.

They recognized the problem, used the pandemic plan developed by the WHO in coordination with the USA for previous threats,

That's a vague statement. This has all been discussed over and over and over. Don't talk as if the WHO was a shining example. It was part of the problem in delaying reaction to the virus. And the world suffered for that. It criticized Trump for his travel ban. It downplayed the seriousness of the virus early on siding with Chinese propaganda.

immediately started sourcing PPE, Tests and developing tracking/tracing protocols.

Nothing was done immediately by anybody other than China which knew what happened and didn't fess up till it was too late. If China had contained the virus when it knew, there would be immensely fewer infections in the rest of the world. The virus had already left china and began its worldwide infection before anybody new what was happening. Others were ahead on testing because our CDC chose not to use WHO kits but to produce their own supposedly better ("It has been long-standing practice for CDC scientists in emergencies to develop the first diagnostic tests, in part because the CDC has access to samples of the virus before others, officials said. Later, private companies that win FDA authorization can scale up efforts to meet demand."), but botched that and the administration had to change the FDA regulation that prevented private labs from producing kits without the rigorous FDA approval regime. Other countries did not have such rigorous restrictions and could more quickly produce test kits. "the U.S. efforts to distribute a working test stalled until Feb. 28, when federal officials revised the CDC test and began loosening up FDA rules that had limited who could develop coronavirus diagnostic tests." The regulatory system we had in place was the very obstacle to fulfilling its own mission.

They are on the road to control of this pandemic and their economies are recovering.

We are on the road to control. There has been a worldwide surge. But there are signs that it may be getting better.
Gloom and doom does not help. Nor does over-optimism. And our economy seems to be making a comeback.


Meanwhile Tweety claimed it was a hoax, would one day disappear, end with warm weather and on and on.

See, THAT'S propaganda that you keep repeating even after you've been corrected a few times. Here's this from Snopes: "During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax. . . Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax."

And the notion that it would "disappear" with warm weather was an idea floated around by the "experts" except that it wouldn't totally disappear but would not be as effective in warmer weather and would quickly be killed on surfaces heated up by sunlight.

His failure to lead in this disaster is destroying whatever claims to greatness he could have made.

It is obvious propaganda to say that he failed to lead. You obviously don't like his efforts, none-the-less, he did a lot of leading.

Now he’s moved to important stuff like saving us from low flow showerheads and energy saving light bulbs
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Ha Ha, very funny.

Ha Ha, very funny.

No, just SAD
Like his failure to lead
The case against Tweety’s administration is open and shut. Just look where they’ve gotten us:”

Millions out of work.
Millions of kids who cannot go back to school.
A crisis of poverty, of homelessness.
More than 170,000 lives that have been cut short.
And a thousand more each day dying
It’s time to say You’re Fired
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No, just SAD
Like his failure to lead

He has fulfilled his constitutional executive responsibility very well. He has not been the dictator you think a President should be.

The case against Tweety’s administration is open and shut. Just look where they’ve gotten us:”

Millions out of work.

This is a worldwide economic phenomenon caused by COVID, not by Trump. Trump's policies had put people back into the workplace that had been out of it. And the economy, once it opened up, began a rebound. The closing of the economy was the "experts" recommendation. Trump probably would have preferred not to close it down. Sweden didn't, there economy didn't take the hit, and they flattened the curve. Trump pushed for the economy to open up and was criticized for it. It's rebound is due to re-opening the economy that the "experts" and the Dems say we shouldn't, and if we didn't, the economy would be destroyed and take a lot longer to regenerate, if at all. Which would benefit the leftist's desire to put the peoples hope and trust fully and only on the government rather than private initiative.

Millions of kids who cannot go back to school.

They can, and should. The Progressives don't want that.

A crisis of poverty, of homelessness.
More than 170,000 lives that have been cut short.
And a thousand more each day dying
It’s time to say You’re Fired


No, it's time to bring back the market oriented policies that Trump created, and let the economy flourish again rather than further suppressing it in order to damage it beyond repair.

No, it's time to bring back the market oriented policies that Trump created, and let the economy flourish again rather than further suppressing it in order to damage it beyond repair.

He inherited the longest economic expansion in history and then, like everything else he inherited, he ran it into the ground.
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He inherited the longest economic expansion in history and then, like everything else he inherited, he ran it into the ground.
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That is an absolute lie. "Longest economic expansion in history" doesn't mean that at the time he "inherited it," it was expanding at rate that would get unemployed people back to work, or to expand the actual number of jobs and businesses, or to create an environment that could attract many of the businesses that found it more profitable to operate elsewhere. It was pessimistically referred to as an anemic "new normal."

Trump did not run that into the ground, rather, against Democrat, leftist, Progressive predictions, that he would, he dramatically made it roar.

What ran that into the ground was the closing down of the economy, which arguably was not necessary to do in such a draconian fashion that the "experts" demanded.

This Covid thing was the last best hope for the Dems to bring Trump down. And they are playing it for all it's worth and more. He did not cause the virus. And his handling of executive duties was not the cause of it being some proclaimed disaster. Check the number of deaths in the US vs the combined number of deaths in these six European countries, Germany, France, italy, UK, Belgium, and Austria whose combined total population is close to the population of the U.S.. The death toll is not that different. And we have a far more adversary political and media opposition to Trump's ability to act than most of those countries have to slow down or defeat their executives policies.

That is an absolute lie. "Longest economic expansion in history" doesn't mean that at the time he "inherited it," it was expanding at rate that would get unemployed people back to work, or to expand the actual number of jobs and businesses, or to create an environment that could attract many of the businesses that found it more profitable to operate elsewhere. It was pessimistically referred to as an anemic "new normal."
The growth in all economic factors never experienced a bump, it has gone on the same path for years. The biggest jump was in what we owe.

Trump did not run that into the ground, rather, against Democrat, leftist, Progressive predictions, that he would, he dramatically made it roar.
Tweety's failure was expected, it's been the hallmark of his life.
He propped the aging expansion using every tool possible and prior to Covid we were further in the hole than ever before in a growing economy.

What ran that into the ground was the closing down of the economy, which arguably was not necessary to do in such a draconian fashion that the "experts" demanded.

All the countries you cite, really shut down their economies and are now experiencing less than 10% of the deaths and new cases that we are and are going back to normalcy, carefully.

This Covid thing was the last best hope for the Dems to bring Trump down. And they are playing it for all it's worth and more. He did not cause the virus. And his handling of executive duties was not the cause of it being some proclaimed disaster. His failure to administer and lead was. Check the number of deaths in the US vs the combined number of deaths in these six European countries, Germany, France, italy, UK, Belgium, and Austria whose combined total population is close to the population of the U.S.. The death toll is not that different. And we have a far more adversary political and media opposition to Trump's ability to act than most of those countries have to slow down or defeat their executives policies.



When Tweety doesn't like COVID numbers, he stops testing.

When Tweety doesn't like census numbers, he stops counting.

When Tweety doesn't like vote tallies, he stops the mail from delivering them.

& when Tweety doesn't like intelligence, he stops listening:


Last seven days which is the data that matters in controlling the virus, looking at total deaths is like saying how great Striped Bass do, look at how many there have been.

The countries you cited
Deaths 534
New cases 34,450

USA
Deaths 7384
New cases 376,435

Tweety's lies and incompetence have lead to the greatest outbreak of Corona in the world.

There’s no football. Grandparents can’t leave their home. Kids aren’t going to school.

Tweety has wrecked the American way of life.

The growth in all economic factors never experienced a bump, it has gone on the same path for years. The biggest jump was in what we owe.

As of October 2019, shortly before the Covid effect

"the average pace of job growth has been an impressive 179,000 jobs per month over the past year, and job gains have surpassed 100,000 in 31 of the 34 months since President Trump was elected. Considering the unprecedented length of the expansion and the low unemployment rate, continued job growth at this point demonstrates that today’s labor market is historically strong."

"The unemployment rate fell to 3.5 percent in September, marking the 19th consecutive month at or below 4 percent unemployment. The unemployment rate is the lowest it has been since May 1969—over 50 years ago."

"With a 50-year low for the unemployment rate and consistent job gains, the September employment data make it clear that the American labor market remains historically strong."

That is in no way, as you claim, running the economy into the ground.

Tweety's failure was expected, it's been the hallmark of his life.
He propped the aging expansion using every tool possible and prior to Covid we were further in the hole than ever before in a growing economy.

He didn't fail. He used "every tool possible" (that's called leadership and administration) to continue the economic expansion into historical strength.

All the countries you cite, really shut down their economies and are now experiencing less than 10% of the deaths and new cases that we are and are going back to normalcy, carefully.

Trump doesn't have the authority to shut down the economy. The states have the power to do that within their borders. The political systems of EU countries provide a more direct executive control than our federated system. I would guess that you prefer a more authoritarian system than we have. In the meantime, you will continue to criticize Trump for not being more of a dictator.

When Tweety doesn't like COVID numbers, he stops testing.

Testing has not stopped.

When Tweety doesn't like census numbers, he stops counting.

Has the counting stopped? September 31 is the deadline. Deadline was moved from the official end of July date to October 31. Then moved up to September 31. Still time for folks to get their forms in. I sent mine in a long time ago. Our mayor is begging everyone to fill out their forms. Seems like there has been plenty of time to do it, but a lot have not.

When Tweety doesn't like vote tallies, he stops the mail from delivering them.

The Post office has been ordered not to deliver them? Didn't here about that.

& when Tweety doesn't like intelligence, he stops listening:

Far as I know, he still listens.

Last seven days which is the data that matters in controlling the virus, looking at total deaths is like saying how great Striped Bass do, look at how many there have been.

The "last seven days" changes every seven days, sometimes gets better, sometimes gets worse. Probably were seven day stretches before that looked good for us. Otherwise, how can totals be fairly similar now. The overall figures from day one to now have not significantly changed in the past seven days and have not pointed out some disaster in the U.S. response.

Tweety's lies and incompetence have lead to the greatest outbreak of Corona in the world.

China's lies have led to that. The initial WHO incompetence didn't help. His inherited bungling regulatory agencies didn't help. But that was corrected.

There’s no football. Grandparents can’t leave their home. Kids aren’t going to school.

Tweety has wrecked the American way of life.

Those aren't Trump's prerogative nor choice to call.
NFL is still scheduled to play. Baseball is being played. Grandma can leave home. You can go to Grandma's.

So far, the American way of government has not yet been totally divorced from our Constitution. Keep voting in Progressives, and that American way of government will be wrecked.

Silly boy how many Americans died today from COVID-19?
You always skip the information that refutes your weak argument

The countries you cited
Deaths 534
New cases 34,450

USA
Deaths 7384
New cases 376,435

Hard to believe you’re impressed with the barking carnival clown
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Silly boy how many Americans died today from COVID-19?
You always skip the information that refutes your weak argument

The countries you cited
Deaths 534
New cases 34,450

USA
Deaths 7384
New cases 376,435

I didn't skip this. I commented on it. But when you first brought it up you said the figures were for the last seven days. Now you're saying it's for today even though today is not over.
The last full day report was for Wednesday 1424 deaths.

Hard to believe you’re impressed with the barking carnival clown
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Why do you keep saying that I've said something I didn't. I didn't say I was impressed with Trump--I assume that's who you mean by the barking clown. If you mean barking clowns in general, or some actual barking clown, I didn't claim to be impressed by any of those.

Why do you keep saying that I've said something I didn't.



it's like the plague with these people :hihi:

The national debt:

👉 up $3.5T from the beginning of Tweety’s term to covid;

👉 up another $3T since then
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it's like the plague with these people :hihi:

But it won’t kill you like the Trump Plague
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The national debt:

👉 up $3.5T from the beginning of Tweety’s term to covid;

👉 up another $3T since then
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Congress is up to its usual spending money that we don't have. It have been doing this consistently for a century. And 3T is not worth what it was 10 years ago. Do you think Biden will convince Congress to lower the national debt?

Congress is up to its usual spending money that we don't have. It have been doing this consistently for a century. And 3T is not worth what it was 10 years ago. Do you think Biden will convince Congress to lower the national debt?

He could just promise like his predecessor, remember nobody knows debt like Tweety, bankruptcy, tax dodging and con jobs are his specialty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l67MNKunUl8

He could just promise like his predecessor, remember nobody knows debt like Tweety, bankruptcy, tax dodging and con jobs are his specialty.


Keep believing that Biden will be a boon to the national debt.