we had a pardon a speech from Israel a naturalization ceremony..

Not sure if you cant respect the norms of the past. But make excuses why your ingnoring them . how will you protect Americas. In the future what other norms are trumpublicans willing to ingnore . Funny when hyperbole becomes reality

The Epic Shamelessness of the Republican Convention

Norms are for chumps, not for Trumps.

By Frank Bruni

Conventions lie. Or at least they tell extravagant fibs. That’s how they transform their nominees from mere mortals to near messiahs. That’s how they whip up the faithful and woo the agnostics.

But the Republican convention is going well beyond that. It’s less a feat of pretty storytelling than an act of pure derangement.

To turn Donald Trump into a president worthy of a second term, speakers are conjuring an entirely different person in his place. I can tell that Trump is the man they’re talking about, because he keeps popping up amid all the monumental imagery. (Did Leni Riefenstahl consult via séance?)

But I otherwise don’t recognize their version of Trump. Their Trump brims with empathy. Their Trump burns with passion to improve the lives of ordinary Americans. Their Trump heroically spared the country from the worst ravages of Covid-19, which is surely news to the relatives and friends of more than 175,000 Americans (and counting) who have died from it.

On the convention’s first two nights, you didn’t hear that figure. You didn’t hear any explanation for why the United States has the world’s highest number of recorded deaths related to the coronavirus and the highest number of reported infections.

No one examined why much of the world won’t let Americans in: because we’re too contaminated — by the virus, yes, but also by a faith misplaced in a government that doesn’t deserve it and in a president who doesn’t have the foggiest clue how to govern.

To recast Trump’s record on the coronavirus as a triumph isn’t revisionist history. It’s science fiction. It’s historical erasure: of all the times that he said or suggested that the virus was some hoax; of all the times that he or his enablers charged Democrats with hyping its threat just to hurt him; of “it is what it is”; of his ruminations about the potentially curative ingestion of bleach; of briefing after briefing in which he crowed about his ratings and bellyached about his critics, caroming from self-love to self-pity and back again.

Me, me, me, me. And the speakers at this convention dare to praise his outward focus, generosity of spirit, compassion and tenderness? They are standing — no, grandstanding — at the confluence of audacity and absurdity.

And they are scaring me, because they are demonstrating Trump’s most formidable advantage over Joe Biden, which isn’t incumbency. It’s shamelessness.

He and his loyalists will claim whatever they think they can get away with claiming. They will flout whichever rules don’t suit them. They will stage any stunt.

On Tuesday night President Trump pardoned — on live television — a former bank robber who now works with prison inmates, cheapening a big-hearted gesture by making it MAGA theater.

He emceed a naturalization ceremony — on live television — of five immigrants who belong to the sorts of ethnic groups or come from the kinds of places that he has routinely caricatured and vilified. This didn’t honor them. It reduced them to re-election props.

Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state, beamed into the convention from Jerusalem to gush over his boss, the kind of flamboyantly partisan act that had become unthinkable in this post. There’s no place for propriety when you’re pumping up this president.

Melania Trump spoke from the Rose Garden, never mind that the White House had never been used as a setting for a presidential nominating convention in modern times. Norms are for chumps, not for Trumps.

“Donald will not rest until he has done all he can to take care of everyone impacted by this terrible pandemic,” she promised Americans, hewing dutifully and without any discernible animation to the laughable Trump-as-big-beating-heart theme. She also praised his candor, saying: “Total honesty is what we as citizens deserve from our president.”

Agreed. Can she point us toward a president who’s going to give us that?

The convention crystallized and formalized the Republican Party’s journey, under Trump, into a mythical realm of unrestrained idolatry. The tone was set by one of the first speakers on the first night.

“President Trump was elected to defend the American way of life,” said Charlie Kirk, a young Republican activist with a spellbound expression. “The American way of life means you follow the law, you work hard, you honor God, you raise your kids with strong values and you work to create a civil society.”

Excuse me? Trump doesn’t bow to the law, not to go by the tax returns that journalists have gotten their hands on, by the hush money paid to a porn star, by his rescue of Roger Stone. The examples abound.

His godliness is confined to photo ops, his work ethic is impressive only if the units of measurement are hours of Fox News watched and the values he imparted to his kids are reflected in an Instagram post by Donald Jr. in May that suggested — with zero backing — that Biden was a pedophile.

As for creating a civil society, I direct you to Trump’s tweets.

Kirk at least gets credit for the phrase of the event so far. He called Trump “the bodyguard of Western civilization.” Sounds like a movie starring Kevin Costner and a bust of Aristotle.

Last week the Democrats certainly framed Biden in the most flattering light possible and Trump in the direst terms. They definitely edited the world to their liking. But they didn’t cut the cord to reality completely. There were parameters to what they would say and do.

Republicans aren’t hemming themselves in like that, and Tuesday night was a special showcase for their shamelessness.

Tiffany Trump delivers remarks during a pre-live recording session of the Republican National Convention.Credit...Pete Marovich for The New York Times

Shameless: Tiffany Trump, the president’s younger daughter, accused his opponents of suppressing truth and pressing falsehoods. “This misinformation system keeps people mentally enslaved,” she said. Apparently she’s unacquainted with that adage about the pot and the kettle.

Shameless: Pam Bondi, the former attorney general of Florida, charged Biden’s family with rank nepotism and opportunism, focusing on Ukraine. Apparently she’s unacquainted with Donald Jr., Ivanka, Eric and Jared, and she somehow missed that sordid chapter of Trump’s presidency in which he tried to extort the president of Ukraine and was rightly impeached for it.

Bondi went further, praising Trump for donating his presidential salary to charity. She left out the part where he had to shut down the Donald J. Trump Foundation because of various legal and ethical violations and was ordered to pay a $2 million settlement for misusing its funds for his own benefit.

That’s how this convention rolls. Speakers keep talking about Biden as some self-dealing, greedy insider when it’s Trump and his brood who are using the White House as a billboard for their various enterprises, their amorality a magnet for other hucksters.

In this convention’s upside-down vision, Trump’s big tax cut was for the middle class, not the rich. He loves Black people and they love him back.

He’s also a champion of women — the first lady floated that screamer. It’s as if the “Access Hollywood” tape was apocryphal. It’s as if his put-downs of Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris don’t have the barest hint of sexism in them.

It’s as if one of the world’s greatest egoists is one of its greatest altruists. Which only confirms that he’s perhaps its greatest fantasist.

Ok, we’ve had a pardon, Jerusalem for the evangelicals and a naturalization ceremony on Tweety's Celebrity President Show. Coming soon, a tour of the White House Situation Room?
And then stay tuned for the healing of the sick, the restoration of sight to the blind, facetime with Putin and his other lover....and for a grand finale...maybe an execution to show how strong Tweety is on crime.

So keep in mind that Tweety has turned the White House into the set for his cynical game show with official acts as prizes, with a difference: this time, it’s the host who’s going all-out to win.

Why have we heard more about cancel culture during this convention than coronavirus?

That is weird because coronavirus has, actually, canceled our culture.

we had a pardon a speech from Israel a naturalization ceremony..

Not sure if you cant respect the norms of the past. But make excuses why your ingnoring them . how will you protect Americas. In the future what other norms are trumpublicans willing to ingnore . Funny when hyperbole becomes reality

Trump did a great job protecting us from ISIS, didn't he?

Kind of funny that a progressive is sad that Trump doesn't cling to norms of the past.

Some good speeches, some bad ones. I didn't like the Florida former going on and on and on about Biden and his family.

As to the pardon, and that whole story (Trump had the guy to the White House, he went to a graduation ceremony for a class of his released convicts, stayed longer than scheduled), and the pardon. How does that whole segment (as well as speeches by Herschel Walker, Tim Scott, and the KY attorney general, who is a rising star in the GOP) fit the accusation that Trump is a racist?

Curious how the trump haters will respond to that whole segment involving the incredible story of the felon who obviously turned his life around. Just dismiss it as a token gesture? Why would a racist champion criminal justice reform? That wasn't a great, moving, story?

Their Trump burns with passion to improve the lives of ordinary Americans. .

So all the ordinary Americans who say that (pre-covid) their lives are better because of things Trump has done, are lying?

If liberals care more about helping ordinary Americans than conservatives, tell that to Nick Sandman.

Feels like the whole using the White House as a backdrop for a political campaign has been completely normalized already. It’s never been done before for a reason. It’s a violation of the Hatch Act, it’s a misuse of government resources & an abuse of power.

"You followed the rules, you obeyed the laws" is a hell of a thing to say as you brazenly violate the Hatch Act.

At least they didn't have any Quackanon believes on stage.

Hey Trump said HE moved the Capitol of Israel to Jerusalem and that Evangelicals were more happy with the move than the Jews, nothing wrong with that narrative is there boys. First he moved an embassy not a capital and the comments on which religion liked the move best is wrong on many levels, but Trump does wrong on many levels better than anyone.

Hey Trump said HE moved the Capitol of Israel to Jerusalem and that Evangelicals were more happy with the move than the Jews, nothing wrong with that narrative is there boys. First he moved an embassy not a capital and the comments on which religion liked the move best is wrong on many levels, but Trump does wrong on many levels better than anyone.

if Trumps incorrect use of "capital" when he meant "embassy" is problematic for you...will you hold Biden to the same level of mandated accuracy? Or do all of his mis-speaks get dismissed as Joe being Joe?

Again, just a little bit of consistency would be very helpful.

Like when Biden said hundreds of millions had died in the US from covid, which would be all of us, that was OK, right?

At least they didn't have any Quackanon believes on stage.
I think it's highly likely some of the speakers are Q. Most of the RNC sh!tshow appears tuned to plug right into their crazy.

Will be interesting to see how many Repubs won't sign off on the bi-partisan bill to denounce it.

if Trumps incorrect use of "capital" when he meant "embassy" is problematic for you...will you hold Biden to the same level of mandated accuracy? Or do all of his mis-speaks get dismissed as Joe being Joe?

Again, just a little bit of consistency would be very helpful.

Like when Biden said hundreds of millions had died in the US from covid, which would be all of us, that was OK, right?

See the difference is while Biden may have meant to say something else and got his math wrong, I think Trump knew exactly what he said and he did it for political reasons. Just like Pompeo using the same stage for the same political reasons, which goes against all past norms and potentially violates the Hatch Act.

I think it's highly likely some of the speakers are Q. Most of the RNC sh!tshow appears tuned to plug right into their crazy.

Will be interesting to see how many Repubs won't sign off on the bi-partisan bill to denounce it.

Was the story of the pardoned bank robber, who started a program to help convicts re-enter society, a sh*t show?

Or the Maine lobsterman, or immigrant business owner, who say Trumps policies helped their businesses?

Nick Sandman talking about his experiences with the dangers of a media that cares about politics more than facts? That had no validity?

Or all the blacks taking abiut Trumps agenda, like Herscel alker, Tim Scott, or the young AG from KY? They're just a means to tap into crazy?

The lady telling Mike Pence what school choice meant to her and her son, nothing there worth seeing? What exactly, is the argument against that anyway? Don't liberals like to say they are in favor of choice? Pretty sure I heard that somewhere.

And Julia Louis Dreyfuss at the DNC, making fun of Mike Pence's name, that was Churchill-level discourse?

I still think Trump gets creamed. And there were horrible speakers (at both conventions), I hated listening to the former FL AG talk about Biden's family.

But the DNC was a "lets hate Trump"-pallooza which was very light on policy and the expected effects of said policy. AT the RNC, I hear a lot about actual policy, and people explaining how that policy impacted them. Instead of sociology professors theorizing about how policies impact us.

Spence, when you can't refute the message, you cam dismiss it as a sh*t show very easily. you have a long established habit of lobbing baseless insults.

Ahh hypocrisy

Trump’s DHS:
GAO found that acting director Chad Wolf was illegally appointed, but Trump is promoting him.

Trump rails against Latino immigrants as criminals, but told DHS officers not to worry about illegally blocking entry because he would pardon them.
Melania wearing her official UDBA uniform says Donald Trump is an ‘Authentic person’ except for the fake hair, fake tan, fake height, weight and bank account or you could just say Racist Birther Takes Center Stage At Ongoing Partisan Crime Spree At Taxpayer Funded Venue.

The RNC featured a police officer who credited Trump for overdose deaths declining in 2018 for the first time in 30 years.

They did decline in 2018 for the first time in 28 years...but then rose to a record high in 2019

Flashback: August 2016.
Trump said his wife would hold a news conference "over the next couple of weeks" to address reports she violated immigration laws when first coming to the U.S. Trump said it would prove "she came in totally legally."

She never held that news conference.

Just last month Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told State Department employees that “they should not be engaging in ‘any partisan political activity’ tied to a campaign, political party or political group and should refrain from partaking in ‘partisan political activity’ while abroad.”
Guess he forgot
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Ahh hypocrisy

Trump’s DHS:
GAO found that acting director Chad Wolf was illegally appointed, but Trump is promoting him.

Trump rails against Latino immigrants as criminals, but told DHS officers not to worry about illegally blocking entry because he would pardon them.
Melania wearing her official UDBA uniform says Donald Trump is an ‘Authentic person’ except for the fake hair, fake tan, fake height, weight and bank account or you could just say Racist Birther Takes Center Stage At Ongoing Partisan Crime Spree At Taxpayer Funded Venue.

The RNC featured a police officer who credited Trump for overdose deaths declining in 2018 for the first time in 30 years.

They did decline in 2018 for the first time in 28 years...but then rose to a record high in 2019

Flashback: August 2016.
Trump said his wife would hold a news conference "over the next couple of weeks" to address reports she violated immigration laws when first coming to the U.S. Trump said it would prove "she came in totally legally."

She never held that news conference.

Just last month Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told State Department employees that “they should not be engaging in ‘any partisan political activity’ tied to a campaign, political party or political group and should refrain from partaking in ‘partisan political activity’ while abroad.”
Guess he forgot
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Pete, here's is the difference between you and I. I can, and have on many occasions, freely admitted to hypocrisy and dishonesty on my side. I don't like it, but I can't deny it, because it obviously exists.

Can you admit that your side also has dishonesty and hypocrisy?

When Bill CLinton was president, for 8 years, liberals chimed that results were what mattered, not character. You're singing a very different tune now.

You’ve convinced me. I promise I won't vote for Hunter Biden.

Meanwhile, Did Eric Trump just admit he was a criminal by pleading the Fifth? Are Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr. also proud members of the criminal 5th Amendment club? Sure looks that way.
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Don’t forget that Pam Bondi quashed the prosecution of trump university despite the fact that her entire team recommended it because of its utter corruption, and then took a $25,000 illegal contribution from Donald Trump. She is corrupt to the core, an utter disgrace.
While Pam Bondi, the ethically challenged and corrupt former Florida Attorney General is lying about the Biden Family and repeating the talking points of Russian Intelligence Services it’s important to remember the Trumps are barred from runnning a charity because they are crooks.
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You’ve convinced me. I promise I won't vote for Hunter Biden.

Meanwhile, Did Eric Trump just admit he was a criminal by pleading the Fifth? Are Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr. also proud members of the criminal 5th Amendment club? Sure looks that way.
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you completely dodged the question, naturally, because you aren't capable of admitting that democrats exhibit the same moral failings as republicans. The facts couldn't make that more clear or obvious, but you can't admit it. You can literally only admit what serves the liberal agenda.

I guess if I was a diehard liberal, I'd do anything I could to avoid talking honesty about policies and results too. It's funny how liberals will do anything to avoid that conversation, isn't it?

Don’t forget that Pam Bondi quashed the prosecution of trump university despite the fact that her entire team recommended it because of its utter corruption, and then took a $25,000 illegal contribution from Donald Trump. She is corrupt to the core, an utter disgrace.
While Pam Bondi, the ethically challenged and corrupt former Florida Attorney General is lying about the Biden Family and repeating the talking points of Russian Intelligence Services it’s important to remember the Trumps are barred from runnning a charity because they are crooks.
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Already said I have no use for her. She's a thoughtless hack.

So... whats the verdict, did Pompeo break the law?

So... whats the verdict, did Pompeo break the law?

Beats me, but if so, arrest him.

Bry, you're one of the very few reasonable liberals here. Let me ask you this. Put all of Trumps MANY MANY moral failings aside for a moment (like democrats did when Bill Clinton was president), all of them. Focus just on his policy, and the effect of those policies.

Have his policies been an abject disaster?

lowest unemployment in 50 years (not all his doing obviously, but somewhat related to his tax cuts and decreased regs)

lowest minority unemployment ever
stock market records
gave ISIS some serious bloody noses
lowered taxes for 60% of us (I have 3 kids, so made out like a bandit as he expanded childcare tax credits)
criminal justice reform, which disproportionately helps blacks (something Obama/Biden had 8 years to do, and chose not to)
last night at the RNC, the was a lobster fisherman from Maine, a dairy farmer form the Midwest, a Honduran immigrant business owner, a mother with a special needs son...who all told stories of how Trumps policies specifically helped them. Are they all lying? And this is just the nonpartisan stuff. I like the judges he's picking, I like the way he stands up for the faithful and the unborn, but we can out that aside. Just focus on the stuff that's more or less bipartisan.

Of course there's more to Trump. I give him a big fat F for allowing these dangerous riots to continue (I'm sure he's doing it for political reasons, which is disgusting). He didn't build a wall. If you care about the environment as I know you and I both do, he doesn't get good grades there. And of course we could fill the Internet with accurate lists of his character flaws.

But on policy? Before covid, how could you refute my conviction that most people were better off thanks to his first 3 years?

Trump did a great job protecting us from ISIS, didn't he? Isis was already being addressed prior to trump he did nothing new

Kind of funny that a progressive is sad that Trump doesn't cling to norms of the past.

Some good speeches, some bad ones. I didn't like the Florida former going on and on and on about Biden and his family.

As to the pardon, and that whole story (Trump had the guy to the White House, he went to a graduation ceremony for a class of his released convicts, stayed longer than scheduled), and the pardon. How does that whole segment (as well as speeches by Herschel Walker, Tim Scott, and the KY attorney general, who is a rising star in the GOP) fit the accusation that Trump is a racist?

3 blacks saying your not a racist probably means your a racist

Curious how the trump haters will respond to that whole segment involving the incredible story of the felon who obviously turned his life around. Just dismiss it as a token gesture? Why would a racist champion criminal justice reform? That wasn't a great, moving, story?

the issue has nothing to do with the story and has everything to do with Trump using the pardon and the naturalization ceremony. in his convention AKA a partisan event




your being played by the biggest player but keep it up :faga:

So... whats the verdict, did Pompeo break the law?

When you have a GOP senate and AG watching your back, you can pretty much do whatever you want. It was a perfect example of either how far behind they feel they are or how far they feel they can go without repercussions, I suspect a little of both.

See the difference is while Biden may have meant to say something else and got his math wrong, I think Trump knew exactly what he said and he did it for political reasons. Just like Pompeo using the same stage for the same political reasons, which goes against all past norms and potentially violates the Hatch Act.

Ahh. So you justify your double standard, based on your ability to read minds. And Biden saying you aren't black unless you vote for him, that was also not a problem?

Oops
The Trump campaign has halted its television advertising campaign, pulling down all broadcast ads on Tuesday with no new ads scheduled to start until Sept. 8, a two-week dark period with less than 70 days to go until the election.
Must be the Deathstar plan
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At least they didn't have any Quackanon believes on stage.

Can't make this stuff up:

An activist who was scheduled to speak at the Republican National Convention on Tuesday night was abruptly yanked off the program after it was reported that she had shared an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory on social media hours ahead of her scheduled appearance.

"Do yourself a favor and read this thread," the woman, Mary Ann Mendoza, wrote on Twitter, linking to a string of tweets about a bogus 100-year-old Jewish plot to run the world that managed to add some QAnon conspiracies and touched on everything from the Titanic to Hillary Clinton.

"Here's what bishops, priests, deacons, and men in women in religious orders, are allowed to do in elections: pray and educate. Here's what they're not allowed to do: endorse. That goes for both parties. As the Pope says, the church is meant to form consciences, not replace them.

A reminder when a politician is called "pro life":

Pro life means reverencing not just the unborn child, but the Black person whose life is endangered, the inmate on death row, the starving homeless person, the migrant family.

Pro life means pro all lives, not pro some lives"

James Martin, SJ

comparing the rnc speakers to the dnc speakers, is like the cartoon i used to watch on saturday mornings, comparing the superheroes to those in the legion of doom. the comparison is that stark.

hershel walker, NY congressman Zelden of the 82 airborne, jack brewer an nfl alumni who dedicates his life to helping the poor, a catholic nun who is a doctor and a retired colonel in the air force, senator tim
scott was amazing, the young (rising star) black AG from KY, the bank robber or dimes by trump who turned his life around, senator Jodi Wrnst who is a military vet, the kidnin the wheelchair who stood up for the flag at the end, Nick Sandman to talk about media bias ( who better on that issue?), tonight senator tim cotton who graduated from harvard and harvard law, them enlisted in the army and opted for the infantry. Sean Parnell ( congressional candidate who served a brutal tour with the rangers in afghanistan), dan crenshaw, the chinese dissident who was jailed for speaking about chinese injustices.

there’s no shortage of jerks in the gop for sure. there’s a real shortage of inspiring heroes on the other side.
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i watched michelle obamas speech. she’s still a victim? graduated from an elite university, had many high paying jobs, first lady, now has a $15m vacation home on the vineyard. how
much success does she have to accumulate, before she stops playing the victim card? i thought she was going to announce a gofundme page for herself.
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comparing the rnc speakers to the dnc speakers, is like the cartoon i used to watch on saturday mornings, comparing the superheroes to those in the legion of doom. the comparison is that stark.

hershel walker, NY congressman Zelden of the 82 airborne, jack brewer an nfl alumni who dedicates his life to helping the poor, a catholic nun who is a doctor and a retired colonel in the air force, senator tim
scott was amazing, the young (rising star) black AG from KY, the bank robber or dimes by trump who turned his life around, senator Jodi Wrnst who is a military vet, the kidnin the wheelchair who stood up for the flag at the end, Nick Sandman to talk about media bias ( who better on that issue?), tonight senator tim cotton who graduated from harvard and harvard law, them enlisted in the army and opted for the infantry. Sean Parnell ( congressional candidate who served a brutal tour with the rangers in afghanistan), dan crenshaw, the chinese dissident who was jailed for speaking about chinese injustices.

there’s no shortage of jerks in the gop for sure. there’s a real shortage of inspiring heroes on the other side.
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thats the Republicans problem their all hero worshipers and flag wavers . Your all to impressed with titles OMG he was a Ranger its not special.

But please take time to look at your conservative heros of the past Powell and what they have to say about Trump and his party. They must have TDS is not an answer
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thats the Republicans problem their all hero worshipers and flag wavers . Your all to impressed with titles OMG he was a Ranger its not special.

But please take time to look at your conservative heros of the past Powell and what they have to say about Trump and his party. They must have TDS is not an answer
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i’m happy saying that vets and others who answer the call to duty in different ways, win out over hollywood celebrities, every time.

why does colin powell have more credibility than tom cotton, exactly?
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Mike Pence says "you won't be safe in Joe Biden's America" when the rioting and protesting that Pence is also demonizing is literally happening in Trump's America.
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Mike Pence says "you won't be safe in Joe Biden's America" when the rioting and protesting that Pence is also demonizing is literally happening in Trump's America.
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biden’s party is distorting the issue of police brutality for political
gain, knowing it will
trigger this violence.

biden did not utter a word about the violence at the dnc. stands to reason, then, that he doesn’t think it’s a big deal.

bidens party wants to decrease the scope of police.

pence was correct. unlike you, i’m not someone who can never criticize his side. pam bondis speech was awful. but pence has a point, for the reasons unlisted.

you’ve really got me on the ropes again, eh?
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So you’re claiming America is on fire, lawlessness prevails, people are fleeing, crime is pervasive, mobs rule the streets,murderers taunt police, citizens are afraid, civil society has broken down.

And whose administration is it happening under?
And we should believe he is capable of changing it?
Hasn’t slowed it down a bit yet, has he?
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US President Donald Trump has called for himself and Democratic challenger Joe Biden to submit to drug tests before their first debate next month.

This is the depth of Trumps genius
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i’m happy saying that vets and others who answer the call to duty in different ways, win out over hollywood celebrities, every time.

why does colin powell have more credibility than tom cotton, exactly?
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Ask yourself
Why would a most respected black republican who they RNC wanted to run for POTUS . Yet now is compared to tom cotton mr Send In the Troops.. not sure what your point
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Joe Biden inspired a kid to face his stutterin' problem.

Donald Trump inspired a kid to go kill black people.
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Ask yourself
Why would a most respected black republican who they RNC wanted to run for POTUS . Yet now is compared to tom cotton mr Send In the Troops.. not sure what your point
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I think I know why he did what he did.

Powell was one of the most instrumental and influential people on the planet, for going to war with Iraq. When that war went horribly wrong, he made it his mission in life to do anything he could, to be remembered for anything other than convincing the world that we should have invaded Iraq.

Joe Lieberman was an actual democratic candidate for VP, and he endorsed John McCain. I notice that didn't make you switch sides ,so why should I give any more weight to Powell's actions than you gave to Lieberman.

"This American carnage stops right here and stops right now."
Donald Trump, Jan. 20, 2017

Tonight, Trump prepares to deliver his convention speech amid:
-5,000,000+ infected with coronavirus
-180,000+ dead in U.S. of coronavirus
(U.S. has 4% of world population; 25% of deaths)
-Social unrest and major street protests
-Biggest gap in 50 years btn richest and poorest households even before coronavirus

Great job
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"-Biggest gap in 50 years btn richest and poorest households even before coronavirus


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On Obama's last day, are you going to say that income inequality wasn't significant?

Again, it's OK when Obama does it, problematic when Trump does it.

You're a very loyal sheep.

I think I know why he did what he did.

Powell was one of the most instrumental and influential people on the planet, for going to war with Iraq. When that war went horribly wrong, he made it his mission in life to do anything he could, to be remembered for anything other than convincing the world that we should have invaded Iraq.

Joe Lieberman was an actual democratic candidate for VP, and he endorsed John McCain. I notice that didn't make you switch sides ,so why should I give any more weight to Powell's actions than you gave to Lieberman.

Not sure what iraq or liberman has to do many former republicans and their statements about Trump
Trump is "drifting" away from the Constitution and said he's a habitual liar. Powell.

Funny there were a few in 2016 now their are many many more.. they believe in the party but not the Man who is an opertunist, not Republican nor democratic
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On Obama's last day, are you going to say that income inequality wasn't significant?

Again, it's OK when Obama does it, problematic when Trump does it.

You're a very loyal sheep.

but but Obama
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"This American carnage stops right here and stops right now."
Donald Trump, Jan. 20, 2017

Tonight, Trump prepares to deliver his convention speech amid:
-5,000,000+ infected with coronavirus
-180,000+ dead in U.S. of coronavirus
(U.S. has 4% of world population; 25% of deaths)
-Social unrest and major street protests


Great job
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On Obama's last day, are you going to say that income inequality wasn't significant?

Again, it's OK when Obama does it, problematic when Trump does it.

You're a very loyal sheep.

There you go, I removed your trigger so you don't have to do your standard But Obama. In case you didn't know he was the last President and has been gone for years, by the way tell Tweety next time you talk at Maralago.

Trump will lose handily. His floor and ceiling are about the same: 40%. He has destroyed our cities, devastated our economy and put the country in a tailspin by lying about the health care crisis. The people know what he did and he is going.

Just keep defending him.

Joe Biden inspired a kid to face his stutterin' problem.

Donald Trump inspired a kid to go kill black people.

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you are truly what is wrong with America ....

Joe Biden inspired a kid to face his stutterin' problem.

Donald Trump inspired a kid to go kill black people.
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you are truly what is wrong with America ....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF4KcunfvCg

you are truly what is wrong with America ....

That is debatable but you are what is wrong with this website.

you are truly what is wrong with America ....

I don't think so. But you are one of things that is wrong with this website.

Overnight ratings for night 3 of the conventions. Six networks combined, 10-11p hour:

Democratic - 16.2
Republican - 10.5

you are truly what is wrong with America ....

:uhuh:
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Here's an explicit acknowledgement that Trump views himself as the president of red America, with blue America more like a foreign adversary to be contained and defeated than as residents of the same country.

Kellyanne Conway on Fox News on violence in US cities: "These are Democratically-led cities and most with Democratic governors... It's not Donald Trump's watch."

You can contrast that with Biden's position first expressed in May.

"These last few days have laid bare that we are a nation furious at injustice. Every person of conscience can understand the rawness of the trauma people of color experience in this country, from the daily indignities to the extreme violence, like the horrific killing of George Floyd.

Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.

The act of protesting should never be allowed to overshadow the reason we protest. It should not drive people away from the just cause that protest is meant to advance.

I know that there are people all across this country who are suffering tonight. Suffering the loss of a loved one to intolerable circumstances, like the Floyd family, or to the virus that is still gripping our nation. Suffering economic hardships, whether due to COVID-19 or entrenched inequalities in our system. And I know that a grief that dark and deep may at times feel too heavy to bear.

I know.

And I also know that the only way to bear it is to turn all that anguish to purpose. So tonight, I ask all of America to join me — not in denying our pain or covering it over — but using it to compel our nation across this turbulent threshold into the next phase of progress, inclusion, and opportunity for our great democracy.

We are a nation in pain, but we must not allow this pain to destroy us. We are a nation enraged, but we cannot allow our rage to consume us. We are a nation exhausted, but we will not allow our exhaustion to defeat us.

As President, I will help lead this conversation — and more importantly, I will listen. I will keep the commitment I made to George’s brother, Philonise, that George will not just be a hashtag. We must and will get to a place where everyone, regardless of race, believes that “to protect and serve” means to protect and serve them. Only by standing together will we rise stronger than before. More equal, more just, more hopeful — and that much closer to our more perfect union.

Please stay safe. Please take care of each other."

Not sure what iraq or liberman has to do many former republicans and their statements about Trump
Trump is "drifting" away from the Constitution and said he's a habitual liar. Powell.

Funny there were a few in 2016 now their are many many more.. they believe in the party but not the Man who is an opertunist, not Republican nor democratic
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"Not sure what iraq or liberman has to do many "

Do you even read your own posts? You said that Powells defection is evidence of issues in the GOP. Well Lieberman was way bigger in the democrat party than Powell ever was in the GOP, and Lieberman endorsed McCain, and we all know that meant nothing to you. SO why should Powells actions mean any more to me?

Trump is a liar, no doubt. As to his drifting away from the constitution, that what courts are for, to keep him in check, as they were also needed to keep Obama in check. If you're telling me that Biden will adhere more strictly to the constitution than Trump will, that is hilarious.

Do you even read your own posts?



is this a serious question?

but but Obama
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so double standards are not worth pointing out? sorry.
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Here's an explicit acknowledgement that Trump views himself as the president of red America, with blue America more like a foreign adversary to be contained and defeated than as residents of the same country.

Kellyanne Conway on Fox News on violence in US cities: "These are Democratically-led cities and most with Democratic governors... It's not Donald Trump's watch."

You can contrast that with Biden's position first expressed in May.

"These last few days have laid bare that we are a nation furious at injustice. Every person of conscience can understand the rawness of the trauma people of color experience in this country, from the daily indignities to the extreme violence, like the horrific killing of George Floyd.

Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.

The act of protesting should never be allowed to overshadow the reason we protest. It should not drive people away from the just cause that protest is meant to advance.

I know that there are people all across this country who are suffering tonight. Suffering the loss of a loved one to intolerable circumstances, like the Floyd family, or to the virus that is still gripping our nation. Suffering economic hardships, whether due to COVID-19 or entrenched inequalities in our system. And I know that a grief that dark and deep may at times feel too heavy to bear.

I know.

And I also know that the only way to bear it is to turn all that anguish to purpose. So tonight, I ask all of America to join me — not in denying our pain or covering it over — but using it to compel our nation across this turbulent threshold into the next phase of progress, inclusion, and opportunity for our great democracy.

We are a nation in pain, but we must not allow this pain to destroy us. We are a nation enraged, but we cannot allow our rage to consume us. We are a nation exhausted, but we will not allow our exhaustion to defeat us.

As President, I will help lead this conversation — and more importantly, I will listen. I will keep the commitment I made to George’s brother, Philonise, that George will not just be a hashtag. We must and will get to a place where everyone, regardless of race, believes that “to protect and serve” means to protect and serve them. Only by standing together will we rise stronger than before. More equal, more just, more hopeful — and that much closer to our more perfect union.

Please stay safe. Please take care of each other."

at the SOTU, who celebrated low black unemployment? and who was sitting there looking miserable
about low black unemployment?
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Well Lieberman was way bigger in the democrat party than Powell ever was in the GOP, and Lieberman endorsed McCain, and we all know that meant nothing to you.
Lieberman and McCain were best buddies and Liebs thought he was going to get the VP spot.

at the SOTU, who celebrated low black unemployment? and who was sitting there looking miserable
about low black unemployment?
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That's the stupidest argument I've ever heard

At the SOTU who celebrated having a black president and who was sitting there looking miserable and claiming he was not born in America?

That's the stupidest argument I've ever heard



see...there's proof they don't read their own posts Jim :btu:

Trump at RNC 4 years go: "the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th 2017, safety will be restored."

Judge politicians by their achievements, not their words.

Trump at RNC 4 years go: "the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th 2017, safety will be restored."

Judge politicians by their achievements, not their words.

You can pick and choose words and take them from various contexts and put them in contexts from which they did not come and make any statement look foolish or brilliant depending on which lie you want to tell.

Trump has kept several of his promises, most politicians fail in that respect. Judging politicians by their achievements would not go well with that gaggle of liars who supposedly represent us.

You can pick and choose words and take them from various contexts and put them in contexts from which they did not come and make any statement look foolish or brilliant depending on which lie you want to tell.

Trump has kept several of his promises, most politicians fail in that respect. Judging politicians by their achievements would not go well with that gaggle of liars who supposedly represent us.

Ask his wives about his promises

Republicans claim the nation is burning with lawlessness is like saying it's raining in Louisiana and telling the State of Maine they should be ready for flooding

I honestly think conservatives have no idea how vast America is..

Kenosha has less than 100k people living there and a fraction of them are involved in riots.


Republicans. Their comming for you ... your not safe be afraid we will protect you . Not right now!

Like Covid 19 and 180k deaths it's just going to dissapear we stopped testing A systematic people before the elections to prove .its disappearing

It wouldn't be happening at all if police stopped shooting 7 times in the back .. it's that easy

Ask his wives about his promises

Not interested in what he promised them, nor in what they think about it. Melania praised him high at the convention. I doubt if you believe anything she said.

Lieberman and McCain were best buddies and Liebs thought he was going to get the VP spot.

did lieberman choose not to endorse his party’s candidate? yes or no?
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Overnight ratings for night 3 of the conventions. Six networks combined, 10-11p hour:

Democratic - 16.2
Republican - 10.5

Sounds like you have nothing to worry about. Yet the frequency and hostility of your posts, paint a crystal clear picture of someone who is terrified.

Sounds like you have nothing to worry about. Yet the frequency and hostility of your posts, paint a crystal clear picture of someone who is terrified.

What do you call the hostility, anger and classlessness of your posts for the last 10 years?
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What do you call the hostility, anger and classlessness of your posts for the last 10 years?
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i call them over your head. you can’t make me wrong, so you dismiss me as angry. yawn.


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No masks and chairs touching at White House. When will Trumplicans learn that superspreader events lead to deaths? Trump Tulsa rally caused surge in covid and Herman Cain died of covid after being there. Insanity is doing the same thing over & over & expecting a different result.
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It’s a sight I never before imagined: the South Lawn of the White House transformed into the stage of a political convention.
Been surprised by how many have brushed this off as a small thing when in fact it’s everything. The equation of the person with the state that is antithetical to this nation’s founding and for which Trump was already impeached.
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I found this head line funny

RNC Featured Diverse Lineup of Black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, Handicapped Speakers

Yea then told to beat it when the convention ended , you've served your purpose

He then jets to NH for his rallie makes up a story about his staff canceling the Trip to NH

Maybe he should have visited the hurricane damage 1st. Put it is what it is ...

When attendees were told to put on face masks in an announcement, a requirement in New Hampshire for gatherings larger than 100 people, the crowd booed.

The crowd booed ... not surprising. Seeing they are just following his example

But his administration will be the 1st to say they take no responsibility for the action or behaviors of their supporters