in a speech today, biden finally discussed the violence of the last three months, and blamed it all on...trumps supporters.

but trump is a liar.

trump controls the political climate in portland. portland, oregon, bring such a hotbed of conservatism.

right?

trump has enough flaws to fill the oceans. but these riots this summer are liberal riots.

Chris Cuomo: ‘show me where it says protesters are supposed to be peaceful.’

but it’s all right wingers, all inspired by trump. the democrats have clean hands, innocent as a newborn kitten.

Why didn't Joe Biden speak to the nation from the Oval Office? Or call out the National Guard? Or submit a legislative program of some kind or sign a relevant Executive Order? Instead ... NOTHING. It's almost as if Biden thinks he isn't president at all.
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I’d rather point to the terrible job your hero has done, well unless you look at the stock market, which he equates to the economy. Trash the economy, trash the environment, trash civil discourse, trash rule of law and if your factoring in social security to your retirement plan; Forbes has a dire warning for us all. In junction with experts inside, they predict if Trumps plan to expand the payroll tax cut will bankrupt the social security system by 2023. If you think he is looking out for anyone other than the upper crust you are delusional.

way to dodge, GS.

trump trashed the economy
GS? where was unemployment before we shut ourselves down? remind me?
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Why didn't Joe Biden speak to the nation from the Oval Office? Or call out the National Guard? Or submit a legislative program of some kind or sign a relevant Executive Order? Instead ... NOTHING. It's almost as if Biden thinks he isn't president at all.
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lot of gibberish. why didn’t biden speak to the violence at the dnc, Pete?

democrats: there no violence. and if there is, its all trumps fault.
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way to dodge, GS.

trump trashed the economy
GS? where was unemployment before we shut ourselves down? remind me?
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Look around Jim, this administrations piss pour handling on the health crisis has thrust this nation into a deep depression, but keep defending him. I only heard pieces of Biden’s speech on local news and I’d agree with him on what I heard, that Trump is fanning the flames of division and he has no clue how to fix it. Its just politics now for him, the more unrest the more he likes it for his new platform. A true leader would be looking for a way to help calm this nation down, not DJT because his new platform of the Law and Order president, requires more civil unrest to him him win. Jim you can’t see the forest through the trees.

Pretty far off the wall, and he’s the most powerful person in the world

Trump: And Biden—well Biden is—I don’t even like to mention Biden, because he’s not controlling anything. They control him…

Ingraham: Who do you think is pulling Biden’s strings? Is it former Obama officials…?

Trump: People that you’ve never heard of. People that are in the dark shadows. People that…

Ingraham: What does that mean? That sounds like conspiracy theory. Dark shadows, what is that?

Trump: No. People that you haven’t heard of. They’re people that are on the streets. They’re people that are controlling the streets. We had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that. They’re on a plane…

Ingraham: Where—where was this?

Trump: I’ll tell you sometime, but it’s under investigation right now, but they came from a certain city, and this person was coming to the Republican National Convention, and there were like seven people on the plane like this person, and then a lot of people were on the plane to do big damage. They were coming for…

Ingraham: Planning for Washington?

Trump: Yes, this was all—this is all happening.
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Look around Jim, this administrations piss pour handling on the health crisis has thrust this nation into a deep depression, but keep defending him. I only heard pieces of Biden’s speech on local news and I’d agree with him on what I heard, that Trump is fanning the flames of division and he has no clue how to fix it. Its just politics now for him, the more unrest the more he likes it for his new platform. A true leader would be looking for a way to help calm this nation down, not DJT because his new platform of the Law and Order president, requires more civil unrest to him him win. Jim you can’t see the forest through the trees.

look around GS, the one meaningful thing trump did early on was restrict travel from china, a move panned by democrats as an overreaction. Biden called it hysterical and xenophobic. meaning, they would have done less. but let’s not let facts get in the way of a good foaming-at-the-mouth rant.

you also didn’t answer the question i asked.
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Pretty far off the wall, and he’s the most powerful person in the world

Trump: And Biden—well Biden is—I don’t even like to mention Biden, because he’s not controlling anything. They control him…

Ingraham: Who do you think is pulling Biden’s strings? Is it former Obama officials…?

Trump: People that you’ve never heard of. People that are in the dark shadows. People that…

Ingraham: What does that mean? That sounds like conspiracy theory. Dark shadows, what is that?

Trump: No. People that you haven’t heard of. They’re people that are on the streets. They’re people that are controlling the streets. We had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that. They’re on a plane…

Ingraham: Where—where was this?

Trump: I’ll tell you sometime, but it’s under investigation right now, but they came from a certain city, and this person was coming to the Republican National Convention, and there were like seven people on the plane like this person, and then a lot of people were on the plane to do big damage. They were coming for…

Ingraham: Planning for Washington?

Trump: Yes, this was all—this is all happening.
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you’re right, the violence probably helps him. but it's left wingers committing 95% of the violence, not conservatives. they’re playing right into his hands. and that’s their choice, he isn’t forcing anyone to do anything. unlike democrats, he condemned the violence early on. they ignored it. the polling shows that was a mistake, so only now democrats acknowledge the violence, but say it’s all trumps fault. maybe that works. maybe it doesn’t.
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It’s a neat and cynical trick: Vote for me because what’s happening on my watch is unacceptable.
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It’s a neat and cynical trick: Vote for me because what’s happening on my watch is unacceptable.
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So Trump is 100% responsible for the violence. The mayors and governors have zero responsibility?

Look, for the tenth time, I give Trump a big fat F on this, I think he should have sent in overwhelming force as soon as it was apparent that local democrats weren't interested in telling their voters to knock it off. I agree he blew it. I think he had the responsibility to act, and chose not to for political reasons (every burning building sends independents to Trump).

But there is no rational logic to let locals off the hook Pete. Except for blind partisanship. And we all know which one of us that describes.

look around GS, the one meaningful thing trump did early on was restrict travel from china, a move panned by democrats as an overreaction. Biden called it hysterical and xenophobic. meaning, they would have done less. but let’s not let facts get in the way of a good foaming-at-the-mouth rant.

you also didn’t answer the question i asked.
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You are funny spouting the Trump narrative, let’s call it what it was Jim, it was a partial ban which only caught a very small percentage of the cases coming our way. It was what transpired since the initial cases that really was irresponsible. I couldn’t care less who said what at the time, were they briefed daily, were they in touch with the WHO daily, did they have all the intel. If your going to spout the Trump narrative, be honest you too take responsibility for nothing.

Shooting someone is as easy as missing a 3" putt.

Can't make this stuff up.

At the debates there will be no Laura Ingraham there to stop him from sounding stark raving nuts. When he talks about ninja men on a plane, Biden will say, "You're nuts." The moderator will ask: WUT? And he is nuts.
Yet the anti-patriots cover for him.

You are funny spouting the Trump narrative, let’s call it what it was Jim, it was a partial ban which only caught a very small percentage of the cases coming our way. It was what transpired since the initial cases that really was irresponsible. I couldn’t care less who said what at the time, were they briefed daily, were they in touch with the WHO daily, did they have all the intel. If your going to spout the Trump narrative, be honest you too take responsibility for nothing.

"let’s call it what it was Jim"

I did call it what it was. Restricted travel from China. Read my post.

"I couldn’t care less who what democrats said what at the time"

Fixed it for you.

Why did the governors of CA and NY say that Trump did a great job supporting them? Are they in his camp?

On this issue, I struggle with blaming who for what. I don't know enough. The scientists agree on nothing. And all the politicians are saying only what current polling tells them to say.

Absurd to say I'm a Trump apologist. Im unbiased on Trump. I criticize him when he deserves it, and praise him when he deserves it.

At the debates there will be no Laura Ingraham there to stop him from sounding stark raving nuts. When he talks about ninja men on a plane, Biden will say, "You're nuts." The moderator will ask: WUT? And he is nuts.
Yet the anti-patriots cover for him.

So why does Pelosi want no debates? If what you say is true, I'd think the democrats would be dying to debate him and show him for what he is.

Pelosi's desire for no debates, spits in the face of what you desperately want to be true, Pete.

Biden: "When I was Vice President, violent crime fell 15% in this country. We did it without chaos and disorder...
The murder rate is up 26% in cities across the nation this year under Donald Trump.

Do you feel really safer under Trump?"
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Biden: "When I was Vice President, violent crime fell 15% in this country. We did it without chaos and disorder...
The murder rate is up 26% in cities across the nation this year under Donald Trump.

Do you feel really safer under Trump?"
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If you place blame where it belongs, yes.

So liberals go berserk under Trump, resort to feral violence. And it's his fault, not their fault.

Makes ALL KINDS of sense.

Biden: "When I was Vice President, violent crime fell 15% in this country. We did it without chaos and disorder...
The murder rate is up 26% in cities across the nation this year under Donald Trump.

Do you feel really safer under Trump?"
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Biden also said there were no race riots during his administration.

Except Ferguson happened.

Let's just make it all up as we go along?

Biden: "When I was Vice President, violent crime fell 15% in this country. We did it without chaos and disorder...
The murder rate is up 26% in cities across the nation this year under Donald Trump.

Do you feel really safer under Trump?"
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What you're saying, is that if the mob threatens violence if we don't elect who they want, we should give in and elect who the mob demands.

Like giving in to a child throwing a temper tantrum.

Election Day is nine weeks from today.
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Biden also said there were no race riots during his administration.

Except Ferguson happened.

Let's just make it all up as we go along?
I listened to the entire thing and didn't hear this. Maybe you're confusing things with Trump's planeload of black clad shadow terrorists.

Jim just repeats the Trumplican's lies, there is no point in arguing with him. Just produce the evidence that shows he's full of baloney. There are times, even in a democracy, where you have to let go of trying to convince people of anything and you assemble a coalition and outvote them - especially if they're lost in a conspiracy cult.

Biden said what?

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-pittsburgh-speech-transcript-august-31

its to funny only Trump cam blames other like mayors antifa dem run areas


But for Jim you cant blame Trump the leader of the free world thats outrageous

I have said it many times he's the captain of the ship and thats been excused away


Again simple logic how Can Trump Blame Biden for Future events ?cant wait

Pretty far off the wall, and he’s the most powerful person in the world

Trump: And Biden—well Biden is—I don’t even like to mention Biden, because he’s not controlling anything. They control him…

Ingraham: Who do you think is pulling Biden’s strings? Is it former Obama officials…?

Trump: People that you’ve never heard of. People that are in the dark shadows. People that…

Ingraham: What does that mean? That sounds like conspiracy theory. Dark shadows, what is that?

Trump: No. People that you haven’t heard of. They’re people that are on the streets. They’re people that are controlling the streets. We had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that. They’re on a plane…

Ingraham: Where—where was this?

Trump: I’ll tell you sometime, but it’s under investigation right now, but they came from a certain city, and this person was coming to the Republican National Convention, and there were like seven people on the plane like this person, and then a lot of people were on the plane to do big damage. They were coming for…

Ingraham: Planning for Washington?

Trump: Yes, this was all—this is all happening.
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George Soros is probably meeting now in the basement of a basementless pizza joint to plan the coup.

Look around Jim, this administrations piss pour handling on the health crisis has thrust this nation into a deep depression, but keep defending him. I only heard pieces of Biden’s speech on local news and I’d agree with him on what I heard, that Trump is fanning the flames of division and he has no clue how to fix it. Its just politics now for him, the more unrest the more he likes it for his new platform. A true leader would be looking for a way to help calm this nation down, not DJT because his new platform of the Law and Order president, requires more civil unrest to him him win. Jim you can’t see the forest through the trees.

Bob look around yourself, the pandemic response is controlled at a state level. Your governors have done a piss poor job. Only need to look at NYS and see that the head #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& in charge , needlessly killed more people by sending cover positive patients to. be quarantined in Nursing homes

I listened to the entire thing and didn't hear this. Maybe you're confusing things with Trump's planeload of black clad shadow terrorists.

I don't know what you listened to, I don't know what you mean by "the thing".

Was an interview with MSNBC. God knows they didn't correct him.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-no-racial-riots-claim-national-guard-ferguson-obama

Jim just repeats the Trumplican's lies, there is no point in arguing with him. Just produce the evidence that shows he's full of baloney. There are times, even in a democracy, where you have to let go of trying to convince people of anything and you assemble a coalition and outvote them - especially if they're lost in a conspiracy cult.

Biden said what?

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-pittsburgh-speech-transcript-august-31

Here's the Biden quote. Yup, you sure showed me.

Biden said there were no race riots during his last 4 years. Either he lied, or he forgot about a major event, an indication of his dementia. Pleae tell us Pete, which is it.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-no-racial-riots-claim-national-guard-ferguson-obama

Bob look around yourself, the pandemic response is controlled at a state level. Your governors have done a piss poor job. Only need to look at NYS and see that the head #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& in charge , needlessly killed more people by sending cover positive patients to. be quarantined in Nursing homes

Some of this is on Trump, some is on the governors, obviously. They don't see that, TDS prevents them from seeing it.

Here's the Biden quote. Yup, you sure showed me.

Biden said there were no race riots during his last 4 years. Either he lied, or he forgot about a major event, an indication of his dementia. Pleae tell us Pete, which is it.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-no-racial-riots-claim-national-guard-ferguson-obama

As usual, you mislead

"For the last four years we weren't having riots, racial riots," he said of his second term with Obama. "When they occurred, we didn't have to call in the National Guard."

Bob look around yourself, the pandemic response is controlled at a state level. Your governors have done a piss poor job. Only need to look at NYS and see that the head #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& in charge , needlessly killed more people by sending cover positive patients to. be quarantined in Nursing homes
This is absurd, the Federal government controls the CDC who's guidance advises policy, the FDA which oversees safety among other things and the legal means to use the private sector to accelerate production of critical supplies. The Fed response was half baked at best. Hey, let's put people with no experience in charge, Jarred, you lead the testing strategy...sad trombone horn.

Now we're seeing a brazen politicization of the CDC and FDA in an attempt to influence the election. If we have no faith in science and the medical profession it will be impossible to coordinate an effective response to this pandemic.

This is absurd, the Federal government controls the CDC who's guidance advises policy, the FDA which oversees safety among other things and the legal means to use the private sector to accelerate production of critical supplies. The Fed response was half baked at best. Hey, let's put people with no experience in charge, Jarred, you lead the testing strategy...sad trombone horn.

Now we're seeing a brazen politicization of the CDC and FDA in an attempt to influence the election. If we have no faith in science and the medical profession it will be impossible to coordinate an effective response to this pandemic.

So why didn't all 50 governors force covid-positive patients into nursing homes?

As usual, you mislead

"For the last four years we weren't having riots, racial riots," he said of his second term with Obama. "When they occurred, we didn't have to call in the National Guard."

The National Guard was called to help restore peace in Ferguson.

What else ya got?

The National Guard was called to help restore peace in Ferguson.

What else ya got?

Come on now, if it was Tweety it would be rationalized by saying the Gov did it and "I take no responsibility at all"

Come on now, if it was Tweety it would be rationalized by saying the Gov did it and "I take no responsibility at all"

YOU said that the “no national guard” reference, made biden’s claim true.

i shared with you the irrefutable fact that the national guard was called up to ferguson.

So was biden forgetting, it was he lying?

Which. Is. It?

you cannot respond with “but trump...”.
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This is absurd, the Federal government controls the CDC who's guidance advises policy, the FDA which oversees safety among other things and the legal means to use the private sector to accelerate production of critical supplies. The Fed response was half baked at best. Hey, let's put people with no experience in charge, Jarred, you lead the testing strategy...sad trombone horn.

Now we're seeing a brazen politicization of the CDC and FDA in an attempt to influence the election. If we have no faith in science and the medical profession it will be impossible to coordinate an effective response to this pandemic.

And didn't the CDC's mission statement on their website say something like they were there to backstop the states. When Trump claimed otherwise they changed the website.

Simple, he didn't do it.
Make that false.

And didn't the CDC's mission statement on their website say something like they were there to backstop the states. When Trump claimed otherwise they changed the website.

This is a sincere question, not a gotcha question...why didn't all 50 governors do what Cuomo did, and force covid-positive patients into nursing homes?

Is there anything to be learned by looking at which states have the highest death rates, and which have the lowest? Maybe not as we can pretty much move freely. Or is all that matters, finding a way to blame Trump?

Simple, he didn't do it.
Make that false.

You're saying that Governor Cuomo, didn't mandate that nursing homes admit covid-positive patients? Is that what you're saying?

My company sells professional liability insurance to nursing homes, we have a ton of accounts in NY. I have participated in 50 discussions on this topic.

Governor Cuomo isn't denying he did this. He is saying the CDC forced him to do it. Which seems wrong, since not all the governors did it.

Anyway, here is an article from that pro-Trump outlet called CNN. So I just made that wrong.



https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/23/politics/cuomo-new-york-nursing-homes-coronavirus-patients/index.html

This is a sincere question, not a gotcha question...why didn't all 50 governors do what Cuomo did, and force covid-positive patients into nursing homes?
Remember this was in March when people were still trying to figure out what was going on. NY was following the CDC guidance at the time and just got whacked for it because the state had the first big flare up. Your CNN article mentions about a dozen other states did the same thing. Why not all 50? Hell, many states led by Trump sycophants don't even want to require masks.

My college town Ames, Iowa right now has the worst Covid rate in the country and Iowa State is still planning on playing football at 1/2 capacity. The Gov has been terrible.

Remember this was in March when people were still trying to figure out what was going on. NY was following the CDC guidance at the time and just got whacked for it because the state had the first big flare up. Your CNN article mentions about a dozen other states did the same thing. Why not all 50? Hell, many states led by Trump sycophants don't even want to require masks.

My college town Ames, Iowa right now has the worst Covid rate in the country and Iowa State is still planning on playing football at 1/2 capacity. The Gov has been terrible.

"Remember this was in March when people were still trying to figure out what was going on"

We knew then, because again I work in this space for a living, that elderly were going to be the most vulnerable. So if you're going to be this charitable with Cuomo, it would boost your credibility to apply the same standard for Trump. Because democrats are saying he didn't do nearly enough in January. If that's true, Cuomo knedw well in March how risky this was.

"NY was following the CDC guidance at the time "

I already stated that. But why didn't the other 49 governors do the same thing?

"many states led by Trump sycophants don't even want to require masks."

There are left leaning states that didn't do what Cuomo did.

You won't criticize Cuomo for forcing sick people into nursing homes, but you insulted states run by Trump sycophants who didn't do what Cuomo did, some of whom have death rates a whole lot lower than New York state.

You can't ever just set the politics aside, can you? Never.

liberal=good, conservative=bad

My college town Ames, Iowa right now has the worst Covid rate in the country and Iowa State is still planning on playing football at 1/2 capacity. The Gov has been terrible.

WHat's the final death rate going to be? That's what matters.

YOU said that the “no national guard” reference, made biden’s claim true.

i shared with you the irrefutable fact that the national guard was called up to ferguson.

So was biden forgetting, it was he lying?

Which. Is. It?

you cannot respond with “but trump...”.
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Simple, he didn't do it.
Make that false.

You're saying that Governor Cuomo, didn't mandate that nursing homes admit covid-positive patients? Is that what you're saying?

My company sells professional liability insurance to nursing homes, we have a ton of accounts in NY. I have participated in 50 discussions on this topic.

Governor Cuomo isn't denying he did this. He is saying the CDC forced him to do it. Which seems wrong, since not all the governors did it.

Anyway, here is an article from that pro-Trump outlet called CNN. So I just made that wrong.



https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/23/politics/cuomo-new-york-nursing-homes-coronavirus-patients/index.html

Cuomo #^&#^&#^&#^&ed up and has pretty much said so, as much as any politician does.
Meanwhile, Tweety literally blames all his problems on the last President and the next President.

Cuomo #^&#^&#^&#^&ed up and has pretty much said so, .

where did he say anything like this? Again, a sincere question, not a gotcha question.

Cuomo #^&#^&#^&#^&ed up and has pretty much said so, as much as any politician does.
Meanwhile, Tweety literally blames all his problems on the last President and the next President.

where did he say anything like this? Again, a sincere question, not a gotcha question.

Nice partial quote, just like your patron

Google is available to all

So why didn't all 50 governors force covid-positive patients into nursing homes?

Your clueless Covid 19 ravaged nursing homes overwhelming intoduced by staff,
Not the small fraction of patients returned from the hospital

How do you think covid 19 showed prisons ?

My wife's nursing home has a covid 19 floor this mantra its dems fault is :rotflmao

All 50 states have covid in their nursing. Look at Idaho and all the other red states who looked at saw how it was in NY NJ Ma and other states .. by the time it showed most of the resident's were wearing masks and understand stood the need for social distancing... it had nothing to do with Republicans leadership:kewl:

Your clueless Covid 19 ravaged nursing homes overwhelming intoduced by staff,
Not the small fraction of patients returned from the hospital

How do you think covid 19 showed prisons ?

My wife's nursing home has a covid 19 floor this mantra its dems fault is :rotflmao

All 50 states have covid in their nursing. Look at Idaho and all the other red states who looked at saw how it was in NY NJ Ma and other states .. by the time it showed most of the resident's were wearing masks and understand stood the need for social distancing... it had nothing to do with Republicans leadership:kewl:

Never said that other states had no issues with nursing homes. But not all states did what Cuomo did, and NY has one of the highest death rates. Maybe there's a connection there.

I'm clueless, and you're not. If you say so.

Nine weeks!

WHat's the final death rate going to be? That's what matters.
Not necessarily. We've learned a lot in the past 6 months and have a much better understanding on how to treat as well as how to prevent. Comparing stats from NY in April to North Dakota in October would require detailed analysis, not a meme.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53525440


Are US cities seeing a surge in violent crime as Trump claims?




But in many major US cities, including Chicago and New York, violent crime overall is down compared with the same time last year.


You want to stop riots let's start with with acknowledging that killing unarmed Americans by police is not acceptable, regardless of their the color of their skin or their past criminal records or their lack of instant obedience to orders and respect for authority that some feel is justification for killing unarmed civilans

Let's Acknowledge that bringing a gun to a protest and killing 2 people and injuring another fellow American is Not a patriotism


Let's Acknowledge there is a clear distinction between protesting and looting and Riots and the last 2 are not acceptable

Let's acknowledge demanding accountability of police is NOT anti law enforcement


Let's Acknowledge showing up in vehicles laden with armed people and covered with Trump flags are not counter protesters

And lastly let's acknowledge this there are 2 country's in America a red one and Blue one. If you listen and believe what Trump is selling to to all Americans

AND acknowledge That Trump is the Man who is sowing that Narrative .. and mzny conservatives are silent

Are US cities seeing a surge in violent crime as Trump claims?

But in many major US cities, including Chicago and New York, violent crime overall is down compared with the same time last year.

That can't be true because PeteF says it's under Trump's watch.

You want to stop riots let's start with with acknowledging that killing unarmed Americans by police is not acceptable, regardless of their the color of their skin or their past criminal records or their lack of instant obedience to orders and respect for authority that some feel is justification for killing unarmed civilans

It depends on the circumstances. We should start with acknowledging that riots are not acceptable. And that protests should not only be peaceful, they should occur after the facts and judgments are in, not before.

Let's Acknowledge that bringing a gun to a protest and killing 2 people and injuring another fellow American is Not a patriotism

Let's acknowledge that using a gun in self defense or the protection of property is a fundamental right of Americans.

Let's Acknowledge there is a clear distinction between protesting and looting and Riots and the last 2 are not acceptable

Sure.

Let's acknowledge demanding accountability of police is NOT anti law enforcement

Sure.

Let's Acknowledge showing up in vehicles laden with armed people and covered with Trump flags are not counter protesters

Vehicles and Trump flags should be permissible. BLM shirts and banners are OK. And being armed for self-protection when faced with hostile rioters should be OK. Especially when the police are unwilling, or unable to defend you.

Of course, I may be wrong, but I doubt that Trump supporters or militia types would even care about actually peaceful protests.

And lastly let's acknowledge this there are 2 country's in America a red one and Blue one. If you listen and believe what Trump is selling to to all Americans

I have no idea of what you're trying to say here.

AND acknowledge That Trump is the Man who is sowing that Narrative .. and mzny conservatives are silent

???

???


Careful with the blue, Butchie.

I hear that kind of instability fires up mini-strokes.
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Careful with the blue, Butchie.

I hear that kind of instability fires up mini-strokes.
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Would red be better?

I just got an update: Downtown Portland remains intact with no raging fires. There are some routine contrails (not chemtrails!) above the city from arriving flights, but no indication any of those airplanes are bringing in brigades of Antifa commandos.
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