Two LA cops ambushed in their car by a gunman.

more shocking, a mob then descended upon the hospital where they were taken, they tried to storm the emergency room.

how do you find a group of people
that sick, who are willing to do such a thing? blocking an emergency room? trying to prevent the life saving work done there?

time to go all Kent State on these jerks. they’re threatening lives, they need to be treated appropriately.

very sad that we’ve sunk this low. take the goddamn gloves off.

Are you ranting about this, or the blowback?

Looks like a situation the DOJ should be looking into and is.

At the Compton sheriff’s station, it’s called a ghost gun: a weapon a deputy says he spots on a suspect but that is never found when colleagues respond to the scene and search for it.

That’s because the call-out is based on a lie. The deputy didn’t actually see a gun, but his suspect could turn out to be armed and an arrest or recovered firearm could pad his reputation.

It’s the kind of behavior that plays out regularly at the station, according to a whistleblower who worked there for five years and recounted other sensational allegations in a recent deposition obtained by The Times in a federal civil rights lawsuit.

“In reality, they’ve never seen the gun,” L.A. County Sheriff’s Deputy Austreberto Gonzalez said under oath. “And then at the end when their containments are set up, you know, the gun is never recovered. You know, they’ll call it a day and say, ‘Thank you for rolling. We’re going to call it,’ and a gun was never recovered.”

Gonzalez says the scheme is employed in Compton by tattooed deputies who call themselves the Executioners, the clandestine gang many say runs the station.

His allegations add to a growing body of information about the Compton clique, one of several tattooed deputy groups within the Sheriff’s Department with names such as the Grim Reapers, Banditos and Jump Out Boys.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-20/lasd-gangs-who-are-the-compton-executioners

I think what Pete is saying is that this could have been unjustified blow back from abusive police tactics in the area. I don't know if it's accurate but a dispatcher I know just posted the suspects information, looks like a hardcore gangbanger. Thank god it looks like both will recover.

Cops cannot shoot people without ramifications, nor can gangbangers.
Outlaw cops do nothing to further law and order.

Neither does calling for people to be killed ala Kent State, where four students were killed and nine others injured while exercising their constitutional right to assemble and protest. It did not tamp down unrest and protests a bit.
Impressive Prolifer attitude


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUmWAogE-xI

Are you ranting about this, or the blowback?

Looks like a situation the DOJ should be looking into and is.

At the Compton sheriff’s station, it’s called a ghost gun: a weapon a deputy says he spots on a suspect but that is never found when colleagues respond to the scene and search for it.

That’s because the call-out is based on a lie. The deputy didn’t actually see a gun, but his suspect could turn out to be armed and an arrest or recovered firearm could pad his reputation.

It’s the kind of behavior that plays out regularly at the station, according to a whistleblower who worked there for five years and recounted other sensational allegations in a recent deposition obtained by The Times in a federal civil rights lawsuit.

“In reality, they’ve never seen the gun,” L.A. County Sheriff’s Deputy Austreberto Gonzalez said under oath. “And then at the end when their containments are set up, you know, the gun is never recovered. You know, they’ll call it a day and say, ‘Thank you for rolling. We’re going to call it,’ and a gun was never recovered.”

Gonzalez says the scheme is employed in Compton by tattooed deputies who call themselves the Executioners, the clandestine gang many say runs the station.

His allegations add to a growing body of information about the Compton clique, one of several tattooed deputy groups within the Sheriff’s Department with names such as the Grim Reapers, Banditos and Jump Out Boys.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-20/lasd-gangs-who-are-the-compton-executioners

missed the point completely.

what would cause do many people
to be willing to be so bad?
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I think what Pete is saying is that this could have been unjustified blow back from abusive police tactics in the area. I don't know if it's accurate but a dispatcher I know just posted the suspects information, looks like a hardcore gangbanger. Thank god it looks like both will recover.

i get the rare homicidal gangbanger. i’m more confused by the mob going to the hospital, trying to prevent them from treating the cops. what did those cops do to anyone in that mob?

liberals are storming emergency rooms now?

in addition to being unspeakably wicked, it also helps trump. it absolutely helps trump. it won’t being any moderates to the left. it makes moderates terrified of the left.
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i get the rare homicidal gangbanger. i’m more confused by the mob going to the hospital, trying to prevent them from treating the cops. what did those cops do to anyone in that mob?

I think it's just an angry reaction to the same police force (I believe) shooting a likely unarmed black man for a bicycling violation. They weren't preventing the treatment of the victims, they were already there but it could have impacted others. A few people possibly said some depraved things. Again, people are angry.

liberals are storming emergency rooms now?

Here's video of the legions of unruly Antifa storming the hospital.

https://twitter.com/josie_huang/status/1305265081144410112

Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill.

If you watch the reporting on the reporter being abused at a minute in you can see what you’re claiming are rioters.
I don’t know much about what happened there but 10 people don’t make a riot.
If what is being investigated by the feds about extralegal executions being carried out by groups within the Compton’s Sheriff’s office, then that as far from law and order as you can get.
I suppose the federal investigation is fake also.
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I think it's just an angry reaction to the same police force (I believe) shooting a likely unarmed black man for a bicycling violation. They weren't preventing the treatment of the victims, they were already there but it could have impacted others. A few people possibly said some depraved things. Again, people are angry.



"A few people possibly said some depraved things"

Why do you say "possibly"? You have reason to believe the reports are fake? Or is it because you can't concede bad things about people on the left?

Why do you say "possibly"? You have reason to believe the reports are fake? Or is it because you can't concede bad things about people on the left?
So far all the reporting is based on a single tweet that was taken down by the same police department accused of falsifying reports. I'd like to see 3rd party reporting or a video to believe it. The one female reporter who is known to be there was tackled and arrested, and wait for it.........the police then fabricated their story debunked by video evidence.

Regardless, if one or two people say something depraved in anger it's not necessarily big news.

Two LA cops ambushed in their car by a gunman.

more shocking, a mob then descended upon the hospital where they were taken, they tried to storm the emergency room.

how do you find a group of people
that sick, who are willing to do such a thing? blocking an emergency room? trying to prevent the life saving work done there?

time to go all Kent State on these jerks. they’re threatening lives, they need to be treated appropriately.

very sad that we’ve sunk this low. take the goddamn gloves off.


Mob ? It was 5 losers ... storming the emergency room ... really not sure were you get your information from.. then suggesting killing them. . Hard to be outraged then make outrageous statements .. you lose credibility

Mob ? It was 5 losers ... storming the emergency room ... really not sure were you get your information from.. then suggesting killing them. . Hard to be outraged then make outrageous statements .. you lose credibility

it’s reported, and hasn’t been disputed that i know of, that they were telling we hope you die, and things like they’ll all die one at a time.

i’m making that up? i got that from CBS. not exactly a bunch of right wing nuts, are they?
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Jim we are certain your fireman and chief will I’m sure resolve this, always smart to send in a career arsonist to put out a fire.

it’s reported, and hasn’t been disputed that i know of, that they were telling we hope you die, and things like they’ll all die one at a time.

i’m making that up? i got that from CBS. not exactly a bunch of right wing nuts, are they?
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Didn't you get your panties all in a bunch when I showed the quote from the empatheticless Sen. staffer to show the lack of empathy by Repubs? Isn't this the same? Or don't you remember what you did 5 days ago?

empatheticless



that's a big non-word for you :claps:

a career arsonist



quoting a demented old fool? :claps:

Why do you say "possibly"?



it's because these dummies get far more upset about career criminals who get drugged out, commit crimes and assault police and end up shot by police who are simply trying to contain them and get home safely to their families than they do about innocent American citizens beaten, killed or worse by their precious mob...they demonstrate it regularly so no surprise...

There’s a career criminal is in the White House
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it’s reported, and hasn’t been disputed that i know of, that they were telling we hope you die, and things like they’ll all die one at a time.

i’m making that up? i got that from CBS. not exactly a bunch of right wing nuts, are they?
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No one is agreeing with them .. just like the cruel and vile comments that regulious group wh heckeled and protested at service men and women's funerals who died in Iraq the majority of Americans found it disgusting.. and many said it was free speech...

And this has been the hypocrisy of conservatives over free speech and attacks on free speech only seem to happen to them.. but in cases like this I agree the speech is disgusting. They feel these people should be Taken care of .. cant have it both ways

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/15/watch-black-lives-matter-protesters-wish-death-on-wounded-l-a-sheriffs-deputies-i-hope-they-fing-die/


Fanning the fire.. the 4 people you see in the photo are black but they weren't BLM protesters seem that flag belongs to some militia type group...


And breitbart the white audience falls in line. With comments like Someone needs to put them down like rabid animals. Or They are domestic terrorists. There should be no pity. They are triggered and empowered by Dems and lib media, who should be considered complicit.


This is the True face of Trumps party the rest who support this commentary quietly, their the silent majority , that Trump refers to .

Didn't you get your panties all in a bunch when I showed the quote from the empatheticless Sen. staffer to show the lack of empathy by Repubs? Isn't this the same? Or don't you remember what you did 5 days ago?

I forgot about the empatheticless nobody staffer, two seconds after you brought him up.

"Cops being ambushed every couple of days is no big deal. What is a big deal, is a senate staffer being a jerk.:

Here's the differenmce between me and you, between me and every liberal. I can say that the staffer was a jerk, and that the GOP needs to do better on healthcare. I agree with you. How many times do I have to say that, before it sinks in with you?

None of you can ever, nor will ever, say that your side is being reckless in stirring up cop hatred. You can't criticize your side. And you therefore assume I guess, that I can't criticize mine.

I forgot about the empatheticless nobody staffer, two seconds after you brought him up.

"Cops being ambushed every couple of days is no big deal. What is a big deal, is a senate staffer being a jerk.:

Here's the differenmce between me and you, between me and every liberal. I can say that the staffer was a jerk, and that the GOP needs to do better on healthcare. I agree with you. How many times do I have to say that, before it sinks in with you?

None of you can ever, nor will ever, say that your side is being reckless in stirring up cop hatred. You can't criticize your side. And you therefore assume I guess, that I can't criticize mine.
I don't think rioters, 1 (or 5?) idiots at a hospital or the Sen. staffer where right but why do you think people here have to comment on every post?

"My side" is not stirring up cop hatred. It is not Dems. doing that. I think if anything "My side" is Joe Biden and he has made it clear rioting or shooting at a cop is wrong.

I'm sure nothing is going on in Compton

LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- The Los Angeles County sheriff's Compton patrol station "has been permeated" by a violent deputy gang called the "Executioners," according to a new legal claim.

What stands out in this complaint is that it was filed by an LASD deputy, Art Gonzalez, who worked at the Compton station for five years.

The filing comes as Loyola Law School's Center for Juvenile Law and Policy releases a new report detailing what it calls a persistent pattern of deputy gangs violating the rights of citizens and engaging in excessive force.

Deputy Gonzalez claims that prospective members win admission to the group when they are involved in a shooting and that they celebrate with "inking" parties. A recruit gets tattooed with the "Executioner" logo -- a laughing skeleton holding an AK-47 and wearing a Nazi-style helmet.

"They're going to frankly, kill and injure people that should never have been shot but for them wanting to join a gang and that's how you do it. You get into the gang by shooting people," says Gonzalez's attorney Alan Romero.

Sheriff Alex Villanueva denies some of the allegations, but states that he is the first sheriff to impose a policy forbidding such groups.

"First of all, there is no gang of deputies running any station right now," says Villanueva, who added that unspecified administrative steps are being taken in Compton.

Loyola Law School professor and Los Angeles County Civilian Commission member Sean Kennedy says that deputy gangs have flourished in minority communities over the last five decades with successive sheriffs unwilling or unable to stop them.

"The net result is that the people in those communities end up being shot and stopped, their houses searched at a much greater rate than people in other communities, and it's all because the deputy gangs view themselves as at war with their community," Kennedy tells Eyewitness News.

Deputy Austreberto "Art" Gonzalez is a former U.S. Marine, decorated for his service in Iraq and Afghanistan. In 2018, he was awarded a Meritorious Conduct Silver Medal by the LASD for his actions helping to save the life of a 4-year-old boy who'd been shot in the head.

Gonzalez says the tipping point came when he was told of an alleged assault by an "Executioner" on a fellow deputy behind the parking lot of the Compton patrol station in February this year.

Gonzalez says he called a confidential tip line for LASD's Internal Affairs. To his shock, he says in the claim, the recorded call was almost immediately leaked to "Executioner" deputies.

"Within 48 hours, a recording of his supposedly anonymous call was leaked to the gang at the station," says attorney Romero.

Graffiti was scrawled at the station entrance to the parking lot keypad that read, "ART IS A RAT."

Compton deputies have been in the middle of several high-profile incidents, including a shootout last year between occupants of an armored SUV owned by rapper YG and the shooting death this June of 18-year-old Andres Guardado. Two deputies from the Compton station chased Guardado in Gardena and Deputy Miguel Vega shot the teen five times in the back. An attorney for Vega has said that Guardado reached for a gun and that Vega shot him in self-defense.

Evidence of the secret deputy pack first emerged in the wrongful death shooting case of Donta Taylor. Compton Deputy Samuel Aldama was forced to reveal his tattoo. Aldama said in a deposition that about twenty other deputies at the Compton station had the same tattoo.

"Skeletons, which is a symbol of death, there were flames coming out of Aldama's tattoos which symbolizes he's emerging from hell, there's an AK-47," says attorney John Sweeney, who deposed Aldama and obtained the photo of Aldama's tattoo.

Sweeney put up billboards of Aldama and his partner, looking for more potential victims. In his deposition, Aldama denied the group is a gang. The county settled the case before trial for $7 million.

"This is all taxpayer money, so yes, the taxpayers should be very worried," Sweeney tells Eyewitness News. "And criminal defense attorneys are going to be lining up making motions for new trials."

Last year, the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors called for a report to detail all of the money that has been paid out in claims since 1990 "due to behavior by 'gang-like' groups within the Sheriff's Department." That report was completed by Los Angeles County Counsel, but it has not been made public. The county denied a Public Records Act request by Eyewitness News, stating that the report is confidential.

"The Inspector General gave me a ballpark estimate based on just public information that it's at least $50 million," says Professor Kennedy. "I think in reality it's got to be much, much more."

"My side" is not stirring up cop hatred. It is not Dems. doing that. I think if anything "My side" is Joe Biden and he has made it clear rioting or shooting at a cop is wrong.

I think that's bonkers, and completely proven false by current events. Your side cannot run anyone for president who doesn't get approval from Al Sharpton. I cannot grasp how you can say that with a straight face. It's as crazy as me saying that conservatives lead the way on caring about gays. I could say that, but that would make me a lunatic, because it's obviously not true. Similarly, a huge number of people have been stirred into frothing cop hatred because elected officials and lefties in the media, are telling them that cops are all a bunch of racist assassins.

Biden also said to room full of blacks, that Mitt Romney "want to put y'all back in chains". He can't say that, and then say he's opposed to the inevitable reaction. Can't have it both ways.

Mind boggling.

"My side" is not stirring up cop hatred.



that's hilarious

that's hilarious

I honestly don't know how to respond to something that absurd. The earth isn't round, it's flat!

There's a reason why police unions, after decades of being staunch democrat supporters, are in some cases now supporting Trump.

it’s reported, and hasn’t been disputed that i know of, that they were telling we hope you die, and things like they’ll all die one at a time.

i’m making that up? i got that from CBS. not exactly a bunch of right wing nuts, are they?
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CBS is just saying what the tweet that was taken down by the police department that seems to have a habit of making things up said.

CBS is just saying what the tweet that was taken down by the police department that seems to have a habit of making things up said.

CBS has a habit of making things up

There's a reason why police unions, after decades of being staunch democrat supporters, are in some cases now supporting Trump.
Sure there is, it's because many people are looking for meaningful reforms (a lot of police unions don't want) and the majority will vote for Democrats.

Police unions largely supported Democrats because the Democratic politicians would give them favorable treatment so they wouldn't look weak on crime in the 70's and 80's. Now crime is considerably lower and (largely) because of social media & cell phone cameras more police abuses of authority are being exposed. Trump is the guy who says to rough them up and considers police killing "retribution."

Sure there is, it's because many people are looking for meaningful reforms (a lot of police unions don't want) and the majority will vote for Democrats.

Police unions largely supported Democrats because the Democratic politicians would give them favorable treatment so they wouldn't look weak on crime in the 70's and 80's. Now crime is considerably lower and (largely) because of social media & cell phone cameras more police abuses of authority are being exposed. Trump is the guy who says to rough them up and considers police killing "retribution."

when police unions abandon democrats, despite the fact that democrats are usually so much more pro union, that’s noteworthy. unless one is a blind liberal zealot.
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Sure there is, it's because many people are looking for meaningful reforms (a lot of police unions don't want) and the majority will vote for Democrats.

Police unions largely supported Democrats because the Democratic politicians would give them favorable treatment so they wouldn't look weak on crime in the 70's and 80's. Now crime is considerably lower and (largely) because of social media & cell phone cameras more police abuses of authority are being exposed. Trump is the guy who says to rough them up and considers police killing "retribution."

what’s the difference between how democrats and the media view police today, and the way Al Sharpton has always viewed them?

Have fun with that.
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when police unions abandon democrats, despite the fact that democrats are usually so much more pro union, that’s noteworthy. unless one is a blind liberal zealot.
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I don't think it's really going to matter much, a lot of Republicans want sensible police reform also. It will all balance out in the end.

I don't think it's really going to matter much, a lot of Republicans want sensible police reform also. It will all balance out in the end.

i think it matters to the dead cops
and people whose property burned because your side is pushing a lie.
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i think it matters to the dead cops
and people whose property burned because your side is pushing a lie.
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I'm not aware of politics having any impact on the recent police shooting. And quit saying the protests are based on a lie, you're smarter than that.

Sure there is, it's because many people are looking for meaningful reforms

the best reform would be for criminals to stop doing the things that cause the police to shoot them

I'm not aware of politics having any impact on the recent police shooting. And quit saying the protests are based on a lie, you're smarter than that.

go down the list...you should be smarter than that...but...

Jason Whitlock did a nice job explaining it in the other thread...funny no lefty's had any comments on that....maybe he should have apologized for speaking from a position of white privilege before he began

I'm not aware of politics having any impact on the recent police shooting. And quit saying the protests are based on a lie, you're smarter than that.

i’m sure you aren’t, since your view of politics consists of thoughtlessly believing everything the left says.

prove me wrong. list one major issue in which you thing democrats are wrong, and republicans are right. go ahead.

the data is crystal clear, it’s a lie. the notion that there’s an epidemic of race based police brutality, is demonstrably false. but what are democrats going to do, admit the truth?


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i’m sure you aren’t, since your view of politics consists of thoughtlessly believing everything the left says.
Yes, I don't apply any thought to anything I see. ZERO

prove me wrong. list one major issue in which you thing democrats are wrong, and republicans are right. go ahead.
I don't hold too many absolute positions, it's not how the real world works.

the data is crystal clear, it’s a lie. the notion that there’s an epidemic of race based police brutality, is demonstrably false. but what are democrats going to do, admit the truth?
There is no data that supports your position. Most of the country feels the opposite. I guess we've all just been hoodwinked by a few facebook memes :huh:

Yes, I don't apply any thought to anything I see. ZERO


I don't hold too many absolute positions, it's not how the real world works.


There is no data that supports your position. Most of the country feels the opposite. I guess we've all just been hoodwinked by a few facebook memes :huh:

so in other words, there are precisely zero issues in which you agree with republicans. None. Well, every single one of us already knew that.

but you’re not a zealot ideologue No sir.
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Yes, I don't apply any thought to anything I see. ZERO


I don't hold too many absolute positions, it's not how the real world works.


There is no data that supports your position. Most of the country feels the opposite. I guess we've all just been hoodwinked by a few facebook memes :huh:

how about the fact that according to the washington post, 9 unarmed blacks were killed
by cops in the whole country in 2019. and according to the national academy of sciences, that number isn’t even disproportionate to the makeup of blacks in the cities

All of the data supports my position. most people disagree, because like you, they thoughtlessly believe what cnn tells them.

good sheep spence. you’re a good little sheep.

you’ve been hoodwinked all
right. it cost democrats the endorsement of police unions.
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Yes, I don't apply any thought to anything I see. ZERO




nailed it :hihi:

Most of the country feels the opposite.

:

that's a stretch

good sheep spence. you’re a good little sheep.


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they are a little frustrated...they have been getting their hopes up on a regular basis for four years after thinking trump wouldn't last four days....they nominated the worst candidate in history and he named the worst running mate in history(the democrats don't even like her)...and trump keeps nailing historic achievements no matter how much they whine...lay on the floor...kick their feet...and scream :bl:

how about the fact that according to the washington post, 9 unarmed blacks were killed
by cops in the whole country in 2019. and according to the national academy of sciences, that number isn’t even disproportionate to the makeup of blacks in the cities

All of the data supports my position. most people disagree, because like you, they thoughtlessly believe what cnn tells them.
We've already debunked this Jim, please take notes.

that's a stretch

sadly, I think he's right. But we'll see in a few weeks.

they are a little frustrated...they have been getting their hopes up on a regular basis for four years after thinking trump wouldn't last four days....they nominated the worst candidate in history and he named the worst running mate in history(the democrats don't even like her)...and trump keeps nailing historic achievements no matter how much they whine...lay on the floor...kick their feet...and scream :bl:

Imagine if he won the Nobel Peace Prize he got nominated for?

We've already debunked this Jim, please take notes.

You not liking it, isn't debunking it.

Fatherlessness is a thousand times more destructive to the black community, as is black on black crime, than white cops will ever be. But since liberalism causes fatherlessness and black on black violence, liberals won't talk about it. Just like you will never talk about it, even though they are the crucial issues to anyone who feels black lives matter. Also school choice, another one liberals get wrong, more evidence that liberals want to keep blacks right where they are.

You not liking it, isn't debunking it.

Fatherlessness is a thousand times more destructive to the black community, as is black on black crime, than white cops will ever be. But since liberalism causes fatherlessness and black on black violence, liberals won't talk about it. Just like you will never talk about it, even though they are the crucial issues to anyone who feels black lives matter. Also school choice, another one liberals get wrong, more evidence that liberals want to keep blacks right where they are.
I agree that out of wedlock children is a problem in black communities. It's not caused by liberalism. School choice doesn't add up, it could marginally help some but the negatives are high.

I agree that out of wedlock children is a problem in black communities. It's not caused by liberalism. School choice doesn't add up, it could marginally help some but the negatives are high.

Liberalism never stops attacking the concept of the nuclear family, liberals attack faith (which encourages strong families), liberalism celebrates fatherlessness, calls men out for the absurd notion of toxic masculinity. Finally, liberals like the idea of paying single teenage girls to have babies, and to pay them a bonus if theres no dad around. Gimme a break. Liberals explicitly incentivize fatherlessness. And then act shocked when what they are incentivizing, happens more frequently?

School choice doesn't add up, .

Yet the people in the cities with failing schools, all want it desperately. SO you know better than they do, what's best?

The only negative to school choice, is that public schools will finally and at long last, be held accountable for results. Unionized school employees don't want competition or accountability, so they tell democrats to oppose school choice, and the democrats do as their masters instruct them. And poor children are stuck in failing sh*thole schools.

I agree that out of wedlock .

So why, in your opinion, is black fatherlessness almost triple today, what it was in the 1950s? Can't wait to hear that...

Liberalism never stops attacking the concept of the nuclear family, liberals attack faith (which encourages strong families),
About 80% of black people identify as Christian, it's a much higher number than whites.

liberalism celebrates fatherlessness
This is stupid.

calls men out for the absurd notion of toxic masculinity.
I guess you're supporting misogyny and homophobia then? Not sure what this has to do with race.

Finally, liberals like the idea of paying single teenage girls to have babies, and to pay them a bonus if theres no dad around. Gimme a break. Liberals explicitly incentivize fatherlessness. And then act shocked when what they are incentivizing, happens more frequently?
This is simply not true and doesn't even pass a basic smell test. Any increases to welfare or food stamps wouldn't even come close to covering the costs of a child. Do you think middle class people have more kids to get the tax credit also???

About 80% of black people identify as Christian, it's a much higher number than whites.


This is stupid.


I guess you're supporting misogyny and homophobia then? Not sure what this has to do with race.


This is simply not true and doesn't even pass a basic smell test. Any increases to welfare or food stamps wouldn't even come close to covering the costs of a child. Do you think middle class people have more kids to get the tax credit also???

"About 80% of black people identify as Christian, it's a much higher number than whites"

Anone can identify as anything. Pelos identifies as catholic. She ain't catholic. Looks like you dodged my question about what's causing black fatherlessness to skyrocket if its not liberalism. Daniel Patrick Moynihan called it in the 1960s.

"This is stupid."

To you, ANY criticism of liberalism is invalid. You said yourself, you cannot post one principle you have, which runs contrary to what Nancy Pelosi tells you to believe. Not. One. You don't think that's something to think about?

"I guess you're supporting misogyny and homophobia then?"

Huh? Based on what? I am pro gay marriage, and was so when Obama and Hilary both said they opposed it for religious reasons. Where did you get that?

For the second and last time, what do you think is the cause behind skyrocketing black fatherlessness?

"This is simply not true and doesn't even pass a basic smell test"

Yes it is and yes it does. Look it up. In CT, and I bet in Mass, single moms get a bigger welfare check than married moms. Guess what, it encourages fatherlessness.

"Any increases to welfare or food stamps wouldn't even come close to covering the costs of a child."

The issue is, many of the welfare queens don't spend the money on the kids. They spend it on themselves, which is one reason why that culture is in the state its in. I'm not saying I could rtaise my kids on what welfare provides. But plenty of those deadbeats take those checks, and spend a lot less than the welfare amount on their kids. Which is precisely why it's not a great idea to give them cash. Better to give them diapers and formula, harder for them to convert that to cigarettes and booze. Less incentive to make a living by having kids you won't care for.

You seem to be unaware that the issue is bad parenting. Not a lack of money.

Because you know how those people are, glad your true colors are showing.
A little eugenics works, ask DHS
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Because you know how those people are, glad your true colors are showing.
A little eugenics works, ask DHS
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the facts show
me how some of them are, Einstein.
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Sure, Jan
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Sure, Jan
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Jan! Good one! It’s a girls name that starts with the same letter as my name does! Brilliant!
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Gotta love those “alternative facts” and keep in mind “truth isn’t truth”

Be better off listening to the Pope

”There is no such thing as harmless disinformation; trusting in falsehood can have dire consequences.”
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Gotta love those “alternative facts” and keep in mind “truth isn’t truth”

Be better off listening to the Pope

”There is no such thing as harmless disinformation; trusting in falsehood can have dire consequences.”
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Pete, I'll ask you the same question that clobbered Spence...can you name any major issues, or important principles of yours, for which you think liberals are wrong and conservatives are right?

And if you can't name any, how does that make you any different than a trained seal like Sean Hannity?

Try the deficit
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Try the deficit
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so when obama was president, you opposed his spending?
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Obama inherited a shrinking economy, changed the reporting method right off the bat which in statistic world increased the deficit for the next ten years by 2.7T, produced the longest economic expansion, attempted to repair our failing healthcare non system and without the wars in the ME would have ended with much less of an increase.
Now tell me how Tweety has done on
Deficit
Trade
Healthcare
Military Spending
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Obama inherited a shrinking economy, changed the reporting method right off the bat which in statistic world increased the deficit for the next ten years by 2.7T, produced the longest economic expansion, attempted to repair our failing healthcare non system and without the wars in the ME would have ended with much less of an increase.
Now tell me how Tweety has done on
Deficit
Trade
Healthcare
Military Spending
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Obama didn't produce the economic "expansion." The Trump economy was not the same as the Obama economy. the Trump economy was not an expansion nor a continuation of the Obama economy. The basic federal input and effect on the economy, taxation and regulation were substantially changed in the Trump economy. It was a different economic structure, not a continuation and refinement of the Obama economy.

Numbers don’t lie

That’s why now Tweety’s campaign message seems to be, “everything bad happening in America today is Joe Biden’s fault, and I alone can fix it.” Americans aren’t that dumb.
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Numbers don’t lie



The tax and regulatory numbers between the two economies are different, not the same nor even similar.

Numbers don’t lie

That’s why now Tweety’s campaign message seems to be, “everything bad happening in America today is Joe Biden’s fault, and I alone can fix it.” Americans aren’t that dumb.
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True. And the Dems campaing message is Trump is a traitorous Russian Nazi Simp that will get us into wars, wreck the economy, and destroy the moon after he kills everyone with his virus.

Hyperbole has gone from hyperspace to Plaid.

Obama inherited a shrinking economy, changed the reporting method right off the bat which in statistic world increased the deficit for the next ten years by 2.7T, produced the longest economic expansion, attempted to repair our failing healthcare non system and without the wars in the ME would have ended with much less of an increase.
Now tell me how Tweety has done on
Deficit
Trade
Healthcare
Military Spending
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so you’re not opposed to obama’s deficit spending. therefore i don’t know why you specified that as an item
on which you agree with conservatives and not liberals.
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An expanding economy, which Tweety falsely claims to be the greatest ever, is not when conservatives have ever said we should be increasing the deficit.
Trumplicans are all on board.
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The tax and regulatory numbers between the two economies are different, not the same nor even similar.

First, data shows that the economy closely followed the same course in the first three years of Tweety’s administration that it did over the last seven years of Obama’s.
Second Tweety rang up trillions of new dept even before the Trump virus.
He owns it, remember the buck stops here
Tweety thinks that’s about money
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First, data shows that the economy closely followed the same course in the first three years of Tweety’s administration that it did over the last seven years of Obama’s.

That's doesn't mean that it would have done so if Trump had continued Obama's economic structure. In fact, it was predicted by the Dems that Trump's economy would do the opposite of what happened. If you're saying that two different economies would produce the same results, then credit for either is meaningless.

They were two basically different economic structures. It can't rationally be claimed that an economy is an expansion of a totally different one. Of course, you can claim it (spin it) so anyway.


Second Tweety rang up trillions of new dept even before the Trump virus.
He owns it, remember the buck stops here
Tweety thinks that’s about money


Congress rang up that new debt. The buck stops there. Trump requested a necessary strengthening of the military which is a constitutional responsibility of the federal government. It's up to Congress to either deny the request, or cut other, especially non constitutional, spending to accommodate the necessary military spending.

It's the China virus, not the Trump virus.

The way you seem to think this works is if it’s good Tweety did it, bad it’s not his responsibility.
Sorry you’re wrong
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Pete, I'll ask you the same question that clobbered Spence...
Clobbered :rotfl:
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An expanding economy, which Tweety falsely claims to be the greatest ever, is not when conservatives have ever said we should be increasing the deficit.
Trumplicans are all on board.
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Pete, I don't have a problem with most of Obama's spending. You're the one who said "deficits" are an area where you think conservatives are right and liberals are wrong, yet you immediately defended and praised Obama's deficit spending.

SO for the second time, pleaser list a major policy on which you think conservatives are right and liberals are wrong.

Passenger profiling on airlines is an easy one
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Passenger profiling on airlines is an easy one
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Is the official democrat position opposed to this profiling?

Google it
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The way you seem to think this works is if it’s good Tweety did it, bad it’s not his responsibility.
Sorry you’re wrong


You're wrong about what I think.

Don’t worry, I don’t count on you thinking much
Remember this morning, when Trump was credibly accused of sexual assault? For the 26th time?
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The way you seem to think this works . . .

Don’t worry, I don’t count on you thinking much


Why should I worry about what you count on? You don't even know what you count on.

Remember this morning, when Trump was credibly accused of sexual assault? For the 26th time?
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Pretty selective
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Remember this morning, when Trump was credibly accused of sexual assault? For the 26th time?


Pretty selective
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Yes, you are very selective about what you remember.