Lindsey Graham says they have the votes to proceed.

He said in 2016 that there shouldn’t be appointments close to an election. obviously he’s flip flopping. when asked why ( a fair question), he gave an honest answer - that was before Kavanaugh.

For many years, Graham was the best friend that liberals had in the GOP. He was a RINO. Now, after watching what the democrats shamelessly did to Kavanaugh, he’s our pit bull.

The democrats turned him
into what he is. it’s his mission to spike this football in Feinstein’s face and give her the middle
finger with both hands.

Payback is a bitch.

If any liberals here are upset, register your complaints with sente democrats. they created this mess. It started with Bork, continued with Thomas, exacerbated with Kavanaugh. When you kick sand in someone’s face long enough, can you really play the victim card when the one you’re tormenting has had enough? and if they’ve secretly been taking ju jitsu lessons when you weren’t looking, that’s also tough cookies for you.

you reap what you sow.

i’m surprised they can get 50 votes if collins and murkowski have said
no. i wonder what they promised
mitt romney.

i really hope they replace ginsburg with someone equally conservative, and let the chips fall where they may in november. i was already prepared for a very bad outcome in november, this will lessen the blow big time.

Graham voted for both Kagan and Sotomayor. he wasn’t a partisan fanatic. the democrats turned him into one with their shameless tactics.

Actions, like elections, have consequences. and the republicans will have to answer in election day.

Lindsey Graham says they have the votes to proceed.

He said in 2016 that there shouldn’t be appointments close to an election. obviously he’s flip flopping. when asked why ( a fair question), he gave an honest answer - that was before Kavanaugh.

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He said it again in 2018 after Kavanaugh to the Atlantic 'Hold the tape' was his quote.

#^&#^&#^&#^&ing hypocrite of the first order.

He said it again in 2018 after Kavanaugh to the Atlantic 'Hold the tape' was his quote.

#^&#^&#^&#^&ing hypocrite of the first order.
yes he is. and it wouldn’t have happened if they showed any civility to kavanaugh.
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yes he is. and it wouldn’t have happened if they showed any civility to kavanaugh.
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Bull#^&#^&#^&#^&.
They could have treated him with kid gloves and there is NO way the GOP, under Trump would have acted ANY differently then now.

(And I am not excusing the left from this, as they would be doing the same if the roles were reversed. )

As far as your other questions, it is possible for them to debate the record of someone like Barrett without 'attacking women'.... We'll see how it plays out and who the nominee is. I strongly suspect right now the internal polling is centered around which nominee will likely rule in Trump's favor if the election is contested at SCOTUS, as that is the only issue I think Trump actually cares about....

Bull#^&#^&#^&#^&.
They could have treated him with kid gloves and there is NO way the GOP, under Trump would have acted ANY differently then now.

(And I am not excusing the left from this, as they would be doing the same if the roles were reversed. )

As far as your other questions, it is possible for them to debate the record of someone like Barrett without 'attacking women'.... We'll see how it plays out and who the nominee is. I strongly suspect right now the internal polling is centered around which nominee will likely rule in Trump's favor if the election is contested at SCOTUS, as that is the only issue I think Trump actually cares about....

you are speculating. i can rely on graham’s long track record of playing nice with democrats. i didn’t like him, because he was practically a democrat.

bryan, look at the record with scotus.

ginsburg gets 94 votes, meaning almost every republican votes for her.

then biden created the biden rule when bush was president, saying nominations were wrong in an election year. he changed his tune 180 degrees in 2016, and i didn’t see you say he was a hypocrite of the highest order? how is his hypocrisy any different than Graham’s? and you’re voting for Biden, so...

the dems, led by Biden, attacked Bork.

They lynched Clarence Thomas.

Then Kavanaugh.

Bryan, if you want to say that both sides need to grow up, i support that. but i’ve had enough of the gop wearing boxing gloves while
democrats used brass knuckles. there’s no virtue in that. none. there’s only losing.

anyway, i’m curious how you’d differentiate biden’s hypocrisy from graham’s. good luck.
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Lindsey Graham is just now realizing that crawling up Trump’s colon won’t actually keep him safe and warm through November.
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you are speculating. i can rely on graham’s long track record of playing nice with democrats. i didn’t like him, because he was practically a democrat.

bryan, look at the record with scotus.

ginsburg gets 94 votes, meaning almost every republican votes for her.

then biden created the biden rule when bush was president, saying nominations were wrong in an election year. he changed his tune 180 degrees in 2016, and i didn’t see you say he was a hypocrite of the highest order? how is his hypocrisy any different than Graham’s? and you’re voting for Biden, so...

the dems, led by Biden, attacked Bork.

They lynched Clarence Thomas.

Then Kavanaugh.

Bryan, if you want to say that both sides need to grow up, i support that. but i’ve had enough of the gop wearing boxing gloves while
democrats used brass knuckles. there’s no virtue in that. none. there’s only losing.

anyway, i’m curious how you’d differentiate biden’s hypocrisy from graham’s. good luck.
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Did I stutter and say Biden wasn't wrong on Bork?

Did I stutter and say Biden wasn't wrong on Bork?

you didn’t, and still haven’t, said anything about biden’s hypocrisy. he previously said ( when a republican was potus) that scotus appointments should not be made in an election year. he said it so famously, they called it the biden rule. he then flip flopped 180 degrees in 2016.

for the second time, how is biden’s hypocrisy different than Grahams? you’re obviously ok with biden’s hypocrisy, since you didn’t call it out and you’re voting for him to be potus.
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bryan, either both sides play nice, or both sides play dirty. but it can’t be ok for democrats to play dirty but expect republicans to play nice. life doesn’t work that way, and for good reason.

i’ve never seen you this amped up. but i get it, because i remember exactly how i felt when i learned of scalias death.
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you didn’t, and still haven’t, said anything about biden’s hypocrisy. he previously said ( when a republican was potus) that scotus appointments should not be made in an election year. he said it so famously, they called it the biden rule. he then flip flopped 180 degrees in 2016.

for the second time, how is biden’s hypocrisy different than Grahams? you’re obviously ok with biden’s hypocrisy, since you didn’t call it out and you’re voting for him to be potus.
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Really? Can you show me where I was in the 80's on S-B.com to comment on the Bork ruling? You are falling in the trap here that if someone doesn't call something out you think they agree with it.

Its not different, and don't blame this all on the left here, we all watched the Garland nomination process Jim.

Really? Can you show me where I was in the 80's on S-B.com to comment on the Bork ruling? You are falling in the trap here that if someone doesn't call something out you think they agree with it.

Its not different, and don't blame this all on the left here, we all watched the Garland nomination process Jim.

i’m asking you about biden flip flopping in making scotus appointments in an election year, and you keep going to Bork. i’m not sure why.

ok, we both seem to agree that biden and graham were both blatant hypocrites.

i never said it's only the democrats, you saw me explicitly state that graham was a hypocrite. but historically, it’s been the democrats who fight dirty with scotus. that happens to be true, whether you like it or not, until 2016, when the gop had the opportunity to fight back.
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Lindsey Graham is just now realizing that crawling up Trump’s colon won’t actually keep him safe and warm through November.
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then why is he doing trumps bidding here, einstein?
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i’m asking you about biden flip flopping in making scotus appointments in an election year, and you keep going to Bork. i’m not sure why.

ok, we both seem to agree that biden and graham were both blatant hypocrites.

i never said it's only the democrats, you saw me explicitly state that graham was a hypocrite. but historically, it’s been the democrats who fight dirty with scotus. that happens to be true, whether you like it or not, until 2016, when the gop had the opportunity to fight back.
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So besides Bork, and then Garland. When else did the left 'fight dirty' before Kavanaugh (since you said until 2016 when they could fight back)

So besides Bork, and then Garland. When else did the left 'fight dirty' before Kavanaugh (since you said until 2016 when they could fight back)

ummmmm, clarence thomas?
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Right... Anita Hill's claims were fighting dirty. Maybe we should have ignored that....

Right... Anita Hill's claims were fighting dirty. Maybe we should have ignored that....

there were claims against kavanaugh too, and against biden.

so is the rule that we agree women who accuse republicans, but ignore women who accuse democrats?
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there were claims against kavanaugh too, and against biden.

so is the rule that we agree women who accuse republicans, but ignore women who accuse democrats?
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Nope. I said here when Biden's accuser came out to have an investigation, same with Kavanugh, and same should be for Trump....

South Carolina Senate poll

Graham (R-inc) 46% (+1)
Harrison (D) 45%
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Lindsey Graham saying the nominee already has the votes days before the nominee is, ya know, nominated says it all.
It has nothing to do with good governance, everything to do with power.
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Only a true mental midget would say “blame the democratic senators” for this situation.

The whole Congress and Senate is an overflowing toilet bowl packed with crap. Until all these corrupt politicians are flushed, this country is broken.
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Lindsey Graham saying the nominee already has the votes days before the nominee is, ya know, nominated says it all.
It has nothing to do with good governance, everything to do with power.
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or, maybe it means that they know who it is, but it hasn't been made public yet. You think maybe it's possible that Graham knows some things that you don't know?

Only a true mental midget would say “blame the democratic senators” for this situation.

The whole Congress and Senate is an overflowing toilet bowl packed with crap. Until all these corrupt politicians are flushed, this country is broken.
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Or a smaller mental midget who denies this, because they can't connect the dots.

Try to follow here...

For many decades, presidential nominees were routinely confirmed by senators in both parties. That happened through Ginsburg, who got 94 votes.

Then, the democrats changed those rules. Let me repeat, the democrats changed the rules. Not the republicans, but the democrats.

The democrats came up with the "Biden Rule", which they ignored when Obama was president.

The democrats torpedoed Bork, even though his judicial record was awesome (never overturned by supreme court, and his dissenting opinions were often used by the supreme court as a basis for overturning the decisions of others).

The democrats played the race card, and dealt from the bottom of the deck, with Clarence Thomas.

The democrats tried to crucify Kavanaugh.

I'm not saying the GOP is innocent by any means. The denied a vote in 2016, and are ignoring that reasoning today. But the democrats did a LOT to push the GOP to this point.

That's historical record, look it up if you don't believe me.

You can also blame Ginsburg, who should have retired when Obama was POTUS.

It's curious to me why the liberals go berserk at the thought of a conservative court.

despite much uninformed left wing hysteria to the contrary, the appointment of another conservative to the Supreme Court does not mean that the court will be shoving a right wing agenda down the national throat. Far from it. That's not what conservative judges do.
They empower the states, and by extension the people, to govern themselves.
What a concept!

Jim is now claiming clairvoyant powers and that somehow the pick has gone threw the vetting that should occur for a lifetime appointment.
Just gonna skip the rigorous process that both parties have rightly insisted on. It includes a careful examination of just about everything a potential justice has written or said. It includes a thorough FBI background investigation with a chance for senators to review it and follow up on issues raised in it. It includes a chance for senators to have private conversations with the nominee, to ask questions publicly at a hearing, to follow up in writing. It includes public input from others who have knowledge and perspectives; it includes a review of finances and conflicts and whatever specific issues may arise in a particular nomination. It includes discussion and debate. This is a serious process. Giving the Senate the opportunity to do a genuine, thorough review of the President's nominee for a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land is a key part of our system of checks and balances. It is important, and it takes time.

If there is not time to do it right, in a way that preserves democratic checks and balances, before an election recasts the wishes of the American people -- and there most certainly is not -- it should not be done. Period.

Some people forget that Bork got a vote and 6 Republicans voted against him.
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If there is not time to do it right, in a way that preserves democratic checks and balances, before an election recasts the wishes of the American people -- and there most certainly is not -- it should not be done. Period.


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keep it up and we'll have to spank you...

If there is not time to do it right, in a way that preserves democratic checks and balances, before an election recasts the wishes of the American people -- and there most certainly is not -- it should not be done. Period.

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Ginsburg's process took less than 50 days.

Jim is now claiming clairvoyant powers and that somehow the pick has gone threw the vetting that should occur for a lifetime appointment.
Just gonna skip the rigorous process that both parties have rightly insisted on. It includes a careful examination of just about everything a potential justice has written or said. It includes a thorough FBI background investigation with a chance for senators to review it and follow up on issues raised in it. It includes a chance for senators to have private conversations with the nominee, to ask questions publicly at a hearing, to follow up in writing. It includes public input from others who have knowledge and perspectives; it includes a review of finances and conflicts and whatever specific issues may arise in a particular nomination. It includes discussion and debate. This is a serious process. Giving the Senate the opportunity to do a genuine, thorough review of the President's nominee for a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land is a key part of our system of checks and balances. It is important, and it takes time.

If there is not time to do it right, in a way that preserves democratic checks and balances, before an election recasts the wishes of the American people -- and there most certainly is not -- it should not be done. Period.

Some people forget that Bork got a vote and 6 Republicans voted against him.
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Amy Barrett just recently went through the vetting process for federal appeals court, she didn't drop out of the sky. We're not starting at square one.

Still plenty of time for liberals to go through her garbage, attack her for the sin of being catholic, claim she's crazy for wanting 7 kids, call her a racist despite adopting two(!) orphans from Haiti, call her a slut, make a stink if she once drank a wine cooler in high school, all the other very important and relevant things that your side does when they just got bitch slapped. Then they can burn some cars and throw some rocks and bottles like they always do.

I suspect you won't have to wait long for your revenge, as election day is coming. But you're probably, not certainly but probably, going to lose this one.

There’s 42 days left and 5 more will be gone by Saturday.

Lindsey Graham is the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and it’s in charge of Supreme Court nominations, and it’d be a shame if his re-election race was lost because he wasn’t in South Carolina.
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Still plenty of time for liberals to go through her garbage, attack her for the sin of being catholic, claim she's crazy for wanting 7 kids, call her a racist despite adopting two(!) orphans from Haiti, call her a slut, make a stink if she once drank a wine cooler in high school, all the other very important and relevant things that your side does when they just got bitch slapped. Then they can burn some cars and throw some rocks and bottles like they always do.
Thanks for the game plan, I'll forward this to Sen Feinstein :humpty:

There’s 42 days left and 5 more will be gone by Saturday.

Lindsey Graham is the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and it’s in charge of Supreme Court nominations, and it’d be a shame if his re-election race was lost because he wasn’t in South Carolina.
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It wouldn't be a shame to me. This is bigger than him. Bigger than Trump. This is shaping things for 30 years.

Keep thinking that.
The ability of Congress to strip jurisdiction from the Supreme Court is real and pushing thru a “conservative” justice prior to the election puts the incumbent President and Senators on the wrong side of ACA, abortion and more than 60% of likely voters say the next President should fill the seat.
The ads are being written, Tweety’s appeal to his ever shrinking base, Biden’s to the majority of voters.
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Keep thinking that.
The ability of Congress to strip jurisdiction from the Supreme Court is real and pushing thru a “conservative” justice prior to the election puts the incumbent President and Senators on the wrong side of ACA, abortion and more than 60% of likely voters say the next President should fill the seat.
The ads are being written, Tweety’s appeal to his ever shrinking base, Biden’s to the majority of voters.
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very desperate.

You don't get to say what's the right/wrong side of abortion. That's an individual choice.

"more than 60% of likely voters say the next President should fill the seat"

He's filling the seat Pete. Let the chips fall where they may in November

You’re the desperate person, that’s why you’re posting 20X a day to try and rationalize the voices in your head.
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You’re the desperate person, that’s why you’re posting 20X a day to try and rationalize the voices in your head.
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that would make you twice as desperate :hihi::hihi:

Not by half
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You’re the desperate person, that’s why you’re posting 20X a day to try and rationalize the voices in your head.
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I've been posting way less here, but I am enjoying you all go berserk.

My posts aren't bonkers. Between you and I, I am the only one who can admit his side plays dirty and is guilty of hypocrisy. Your brain just can't go there. Democrats are always flawless in yoru world.

Don’t worry, Russian state media says if Tweety loses they’ll still keep him employed.
He might have room for you to visit at his dacha
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It wouldn't be a shame to me. This is bigger than him. Bigger than Trump. This is shaping things for 30 years.

That’s what the nazi party said when they invaded Poland. :hihi:
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Taking a vote pre-election is a sure fire sign McConnell is already writing off Collins, Gardner, etc. AND Trump
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That’s what the nazi party said when they invaded Poland. :hihi:
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You're right! Other than the fact that this will mean less federal government authority, other than that, its exactly like the rise of Nazism. Because that's what Hitler was all about! Reducing the scope of his own authority, and increasing local authority. Right?

Nebe, when you're trying to tell us that a smaller federal government scope, which necessarily means more state and individual power, is tantamount to the Third Reich, we see how insanely out of comebacks you are. You have nothing. Zilch.

Try again.

You're right! Other than the fact that this will mean less federal government authority, other than that, its exactly like the rise of Nazism. Because that's what Hitler was all about! Reducing the scope of his own authority, and increasing local authority. Right?

Nebe, when you're trying to tell us that a smaller federal government scope, which necessarily means more state and individual power, is tantamount to the Third Reich, we see how insanely out of comebacks you are. You have nothing. Zilch.

Try again.

Maybe he thinks Trump is going to invade Poland.

I’m for term limits and I don’t think judges elected for life really reflect America evolving and changing with the times. Three term is more than enough a IMHO, then go back to private practice and PAY for your own heath care and retirement.

this is great....buzzy dies and trump gets to nominate her replacement and the republican senate gets to confirm the nominee...all perfectly constitutional

and...


the dummies respond by threatening to pack the court, eliminate the electoral college, impeach trump daily, make new states etc. because they think that will ensure they will be in power forever...
and and now...suddenly... term limits for judges


the left is crazy and dangerous....:rotf2:

I hear lots of high-minded talk during the Supreme Court fight from "conservatives" about the Constitution, the right to life, the rule of law, limited government, honoring the vision of the Founders, etc. I remember that the people making these arguments support Donald Trump
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I hear lots of high-minded talk during the Supreme Court fight from "conservatives" about the Constitution, the right to life, the rule of law, limited government, honoring the vision of the Founders, etc. I remember that the people making these arguments support Donald Trump
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So you're saying that Biden should be the preferred candidate of the pro-life voters?

I hear lots of high-minded talk during the Supreme Court fight from "conservatives" about the Constitution, the right to life, the rule of law, limited government, honoring the vision of the Founders, etc. I remember that the people making these arguments support Donald Trump


They're supporting their party. Can't win if you diss your own. We're talking politics here. Trump has pretty much been held within current constitutional bounds.

Of course you think he is a constitution busting dictatorial NAZI. His judge picks are more constitutionally oriented than picks that the Dems would make.

In your view
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In your view
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based on facts.
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As he said, party before country and one man clearly controls that party
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As he said, party before country and one man clearly controls that party
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show me where he said party before country, please? Hearing voices? Off your meds?

“They're supporting their party.“
That’s exactly what he said
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“They're supporting their party.“
That’s exactly what he said
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OK. And why do you make the leap to 'party over country'?

Common sense suggests that when one joins a party, one does so because they feel that party's agenda is better for the country, than the agenda of the other party.

YOU don't always support your party? Not always? Not every single time?

Poor Jim, it’s been obvious for the past three years that for Trumplicans it’s the man that counts.

It was a big story the first time Trump
1) held a rally during a pandemic
2) made bigoted attacks on Rep. Omar
3) praised the assault of a journalist

Last night he did all three... and none of it is breaking through. It's just the accepted behavior of the president now.
And perfectly ok with Trumplicans
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Poor Jim, it’s been obvious for the past three years that for Trumplicans it’s the man that counts.

It was a big story the first time Trump
1) held a rally during a pandemic
2) made bigoted attacks on Rep. Omar
3) praised the assault of a journalist

Last night he did all three... and none of it is breaking through. It's just the accepted behavior of the president now.
And perfectly ok with Trumplicans
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I asked you a very simple question - aren't you a prime example of someone who always supports his party? Youi respond with a Trump attack.

"for Trumplicans it’s the man that counts"

Exactly wrong. I despise him as a man. For his supporters, it's his policies and results that count. I hate his ethics. I like his agenda.

Tell me that's not the same logic democrats used to defend their support for Bill Clinton? To this day, in the era of #metoo, Bill Clinton is still worshipped among democrats. So spare me your phony sanctimonious bullsh*t. Democrats liked what Bill Clinton did (as did I), therefore they are more than willing to overlook his disgusting moral compass. We do the same thing with Trump.

But it's OK when you do it, a character flaw when I do it? Spare me. You can't have it both ways Pete. What's good for the goose...

You have an appetite for humiliation today, I see.

Sorry Jim, my agenda has always been that the barking carnival clown is unqualified and incompetent.
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Sorry Jim, my agenda has always been that the barking carnival clown is unqualified and incompetent.
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What does it say about the flimsiness of your beliefs, that when I ask a simple but challenging question, you cannot come close to answering?

Destroyed, yet again.

I asked you about how it is that democrats can lecture about the need for character, when Bill Clinton is still a hero? You respond to that question, with orangemanbad. it's all you got. Except you don't even have that, because I concede he's a bad person, but like you with Clinton, I'm supporting his policy agenda.

But again, it's OK when you do it, bad when we do it.

Pulverized, like Ralphies glasses in A Christmas Story.

You are a sad, sad little man.
Your measure of your self worth is dependent on your belief that you won an argument on the internet.
Tweety’s happy that everyone is arguing over Ginsberg’s replacement while he’s gave what is on the surface an anti-China speech at the UN--but listening to his Chinese counterpart speak, Trump's speech did China & Xi a favor by allowing China to present itself as the more responsible country, one that believes in international cooperation.
But pay no attention to that or the fact that even holding both houses and the presidency he couldn’t kill the ACA and now will do it with right wing activist judges.
Where is Trump's health care plan? There are just six weeks till Election Day. How has he not released a health care plan? Where is it? Why won't he release it? What is he hiding? Or does he still not have one, after dozens of promises over years to release a plan? Where is it?
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Exactly wrong. I despise him as a man. For his supporters, it's his policies and results that count. I hate his ethics. I like his agenda.

Funny did that type of thinking work for Germans.

I hated Hilter the man and his killing of jews. But i like his results and agenda

Jim you can't go fishing with a child molester or rapist and claim your only with them for the boating and fishing

You own Trump the good the.bad and the ugly ... didn't your catholic back ground teach that?

Your like the rest of the conservatism lost rudderless no morals ethics purely Transactional


Also why now can the senate do a court justice but not a covid relive bill. Or would that just help blue states so f it ?

Exactly wrong. I despise him as a man. For his supporters, it's his policies and results that count. I hate his ethics. I like his agenda.

Funny did that type of thinking work for Germans.

I hated Hilter the man and his killing of jews. But i like his results and agenda

Jim you can't go fishing with a child molester or rapist and claim your only with them for the boating and fishing

You own Trump the good the.bad and the ugly ... didn't your catholic back ground teach that?

Your like the rest of the conservatism lost rudderless no morals ethics purely Transactional


Also why now can the senate do a court justice but not a covid relive bill. Or would that just help blue states so f it ?

WDMSO, Bill Clinton is a serial, lifelong abuser of women, and he is a hero among democrats, got a prime speaking gig at their convention.

So I'll ask you the question Pete can't answer. If it's OK for democrats to overlook Clintons awful morals and admire his political accomplishments, why is it comparable to Naziism when Republicans do the same with Trump?

You have fun trying to answer that.

You are a sad, sad little man.
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I can easily and happily answer every question you have ever asked. All you do is dodge and insult.

But pay no attention to that or the fact that even holding both houses and the presidency he couldn’t kill the ACA

So what you said, "it’s been obvious for the past three years that for Trumplicans it’s the man that counts" and "one man clearly controls that party" is not true?


and now will do it with right wing activist judges.

Constitutionalist judges are not "activist."

Where is Trump's health care plan? There are just six weeks till Election Day. How has he not released a health care plan? Where is it? Why won't he release it? What is he hiding? Or does he still not have one, after dozens of promises over years to release a plan? Where is it?


The Constitution does not give the President the duty, nor the power, to create national health care plans.

Exactly wrong. I despise him as a man. For his supporters, it's his policies and results that count. I hate his ethics. I like his agenda.

Funny did that type of thinking work for Germans.

I hated Hilter the man and his killing of jews. But i like his results and agenda

Jim you can't go fishing with a child molester or rapist and claim your only with them for the boating and fishing

You own Trump the good the.bad and the ugly ... didn't your catholic back ground teach that?

Your like the rest of the conservatism lost rudderless no morals ethics purely Transactional


Also why now can the senate do a court justice but not a covid relive bill. Or would that just help blue states so f it ?

"You own Trump the good the.bad and the ugly"

Fine. Then to the same exact degree, you own Clinton's ugly deeds as well as the accusations against Biden.

Fair enough?

"didn't your catholic back ground teach that?"

My Catholicism makes it crystal clear that there's only one party to support. Here's a hint, it's not the party that celebrates 9th month abortions and tramples on the rights of the Little Sisters Of The Poor.


"lost rudderless no morals "

Anytime you'd like to have a rational, sane comparison of each others moral compass, I'm game.

I'm the one being consistent. You are the one with no morals or rudder. You say I own Trump (which is ridiculous), but you'd never admit you own Clintons character or Bidens. Only you get to support immoral people without having a stain. Its evil when the other side does it, perfectly OK when you do it. Because CNN said so.

WDMSO and Pete, it would be helpful to me, if you could explain how you justify the left's continued worshipping of Bill Clinton, given how you criticize all of Trumps supporters for not demanding better character from our side.

And what of the accusations against Biden? There's a rape accusation from a former staffer (not a deranged republican), and other accusations of misconduct from democrats. There's Biden telling blacks that republicans "want to put y'all back in chains". There's his plagiarism.

How come it's OK for you to overlook all that, but we are supposed to not support our flawed candidates? By what logic are the standards you apply, so different by party?

The Constitution does not give the President the duty, nor the power, to create national health care plans.

Ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4STwwbRRURI

Ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4STwwbRRURI

The President can't enact a health care plan. He can sign a bill enacted by Congress. In the video, he kept referring to "we." If the "we" is Congress, then it is not something he created and enacted. If the "we" are advisers to Trump drawing up a plan, Trump cannot enact it. He would have to submit it to Congress, and Congress would create the bill.

"You own Trump the good the.bad and the ugly"

Fine. Then to the same exact degree, you own Clinton's ugly deeds as well as the accusations against Biden.

Fair enough?

"didn't your catholic back ground teach that?"

My Catholicism makes it crystal clear that there's only one party to support. Here's a hint, it's not the party that celebrates 9th month abortions and tramples on the rights of the Little Sisters Of The Poor.


"lost rudderless no morals "

Anytime you'd like to have a rational, sane comparison of each others moral compass, I'm game.

I'm the one being consistent. You are the one with no morals or rudder. You say I own Trump (which is ridiculous), but you'd never admit you own Clintons character or Bidens. Only you get to support immoral people without having a stain. Its evil when the other side does it, perfectly OK when you do it. Because CNN said so.


Bill Clinton is your response:kewl: your deep in the trump fan club any other imanagry comparison you what to make.? Ps last time i checked Catholicism cares more than just abortion. We know you don't. Your false comparison are endless.. your Transactional funny what your willing to over look or even forgive with Trump but you do not provide the same forgiveness to Clinton's or Biden.

So much for that Moral commpass you ke3p telling us you have

The president of the United States is trailing in the polls, can’t possibly win the popular vote, and wants to install a judge who supports him to the highest court in the land in order to help guarantee his re-election.

What would you call this if you saw it another country?

Dems nominated the first Catholic for president (1928), elected the first Catholic president (1960), and have had a Catholic on every ticket since 2004.

GOP has never nominated a Catholic for president or VP.

Bill Clinton is your response:kewl: your deep in the trump fan club any other imanagry comparison you what to make.? Ps last time i checked Catholicism cares more than just abortion. We know you don't. Your false comparison are endless.. your Transactional funny what your willing to over look or even forgive with Trump but you do not provide the same forgiveness to Clinton's or Biden.

So much for that Moral commpass you ke3p telling us you have

Bill Clinton was my question. A question I see you chose not to answer. You guys crack me up.

"imaginary comparison you what to make.?"

So I'm imagining that Bill Clinton gave a big speech at the DNC this year, and talked about character in the oval office! No irony there.

"Ps last time i checked Catholicism cares more than just abortion."

I'm sure you're an expert. But you're right,. Catholics also care deeply about helping the poor, an issue on which conservatives are superior. We care about strong families, an issue on which liberals could not be more wrong. I can go all day if you want.

Dems nominated the first Catholic for president (1928), elected the first Catholic president (1960), and have had a Catholic on every ticket since 2004.

GOP has never nominated a Catholic for president or VP.

And JFK was some Catholic! You ;ecture me about Trumps moral compass, and you brink up JFK? A booze guzzling skirt chaser, who tried to hire the mob (through his family's deep ties) to assassinate Castro?

Oh man you are cute sometimes.

Biden isn't Catholic. You cannot be Catholic and be pro abortion, that's very clear, it's a binding belief. He says he's catholic. Saying you're catholic, isn't the litmus test. Living like a Catholic is the test.

And JFK was some Catholic! You ;ecture me about Trumps moral compass, and you brink up JFK? A booze guzzling skirt chaser, who tried to hire the mob (through his family's deep ties) to assassinate Castro?

Oh man you are cute sometimes.

Biden isn't Catholic. You cannot be Catholic and be pro abortion, that's very clear, it's a binding belief. He says he's catholic. Saying you're catholic, isn't the litmus test. Living like a Catholic is the test.

Now tell us how a catholic resolves executions, racism and refugees with the Pope's statements and with the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Hypocrite



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtHx-fVhHic

Now tell us how a catholic resolves executions, racism and refugees with the Pope's statements and with the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Hypocrite



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtHx-fVhHic

"Now tell us how a catholic resolves executions"

Simple. First, killing a convicted murderer isn't the moral equivalent of killing an unborn baby. Second, Catholics are encouraged to be opposed to the death penalty, but it's not a binding belief like opposing abortion is. I'm opposed to the death penalty. The Catholic catechism doesn't advocate for executions.

Please stop, you've got me on the ropes, show mercy!

"racism"

Easy. We're opposed to racism. While the GOP certainly ain't perfect on this or any issue, I'll take our policies over liberalism any day. At the SOTU, which side celebrated lowest ever black unemployment, which side was miserable about it? How about you reconcile that?


"refugees"

Also easy. The GOP is fine with granting actual asylum. We don't like open borders, or shortsighted and stupid policies which encourage destructive behavior.

Notice how I answered every question. I'll give you a third chance to do the same.

What do you think of the fact that the Democrat party still reveres Bill Clinton? How is their willingness to ignore his many moral lapses, different from what you accuse Trumplicans of doing?

I answered your questions. Can you show me the same courtesy?

That’s what the pope said about those issues?
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That’s what the pope said about those issues?
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If you won't answer my question, will you tell me why you refuse to do so?

Because those questions have nothing to do with the problem living in the White House
No American political leader has ever been as incompetent, uneducated and unethical as Trump, not even close.
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Because those questions have nothing to do with the problem living in the White House
No American political leader has ever been as incompetent, uneducated and unethical as Trump, not even close.
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There have been a lot of American political "leaders" in our history. Several have been less competent, less educated, and less ethical than Trump. That was easy to say. Don't have to prove it. Just as you can't prove what you said is true. But it was real easy for you to say. Unsubstantiated and hateful stuff like that flows out of your brain on nearly a daily basis.

Because those questions have nothing to do with the problem living in the White House
No American political leader has ever been as incompetent, uneducated and unethical as Trump, not even close.
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The hell they don't. You criticize Trumps supporters all the time for overlooking his moral lapses. Yet that's exactly what you will do in a few weeks with Biden. And it's what democrats still do with Bill CLinton.

You have no answer, so you dodge like a coward. We get it.

"No American political leader has ever been as incompetent, uneducated and unethical as Trump, not even close."

Well, he pulverized Hilary, despite her having the media in her pocket. So, I think you'd have to say she's more incompetent.

There have been a lot of American political "leaders" in our history. Several have been less competent, less educated, and less ethical than Trump. That was easy to say. Don't have to prove it. Just as you can't prove what you said is true. But it was real easy for you to say. Unsubstantiated and hateful stuff like that flows out of your brain on nearly a daily basis.
Every American who supports Trump should never be allowed to forget what just happened on that stage. After all the offenses against the nation and the Constitution, he refuses to commit to a peaceful transfer of power. If you support this man, you cannot call yourself a patriot.
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