doesn’t look like trump is getting creamed. hes doing well with hispanics.

TX being close is a great future sign for democrats.

doesn’t look like trump is getting creamed. hes doing well with hispanics.

TX being close is a great future sign for democrats.

you can blame the pollsters...they are as useless as weathermen:jester:

Stop the counting I’ve won and if not I’m taking my ball and going home. Even his bud from NY couldn’t believe Trump claiming victory before a large majority of ballots were counted.

Stop the counting I’ve won and if not I’m taking my ball and going home. Even his bud from NY couldn’t believe Trump claiming victory before a large majority of ballots were counted.

No, no, no... It’s stop counting in Nevada, Michigan and Pennsylvania! Keep counting in Arizona!!!

If I wasn’t on my phone I’d post Mortimer from Trading Places ‘turn those machines back on’ (in Arizona)
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No, no, no... It’s stop counting in Nevada, Michigan and Pennsylvania! Keep counting in Arizona!!!

If I wasn’t on my phone I’d post Mortimer from Trading Places ‘turn those machines back on’ (in Arizona)
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Even crazier when people show up to stop the count, when your behind in the race.

In 2000, George W. Bush had James Baker.
In 2020, Donald Trump has Rudy Giuliani.

And the problem with going to court for Trump is that judges require actual evidence — not just assertions — to support a claim. But the only available evidence of wrongdoing appears to be the USPS’ massive failure to deliver properly mailed ballots to Democratic-leaning polls.
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In 2000, George W. Bush had James Baker.
In 2020, Donald Trump has Rudy Giuliani.

And the problem with going to court for Trump is that judges require actual evidence — not just assertions — to support a claim. But the only available evidence of wrongdoing appears to be the USPS’ massive failure to deliver properly mailed ballots to Democratic-leaning polls.
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What about poll-watchers saying they were denied access? I have no idea, none, if those claims have any validity whatsoever, and in all honesty, I hope that's not what happened, that's the last thing we need. But somehow you know they are lying?

What about poll-watchers saying they were denied access?
You mean the poll watchers who couldn't get access because of a mob of Trump fanatics flooding the observation areas and pounding on windows screaming for the poll workers to stop counting?

You mean the poll watchers who couldn't get access because of a mob of Trump fanatics flooding the observation areas and pounding on windows screaming for the poll workers to stop counting?

Nope, that's not the claim everywhere. And even if that's the case, you stop counting, remove the mob, and then count correctly with observers.

Amazing how you and Pete have actual facts to refute every single claim, even the ones you don't know about yet.

I have zero interest in a legal battle. But it's worth pointing out how all of you, reflexively and thoughtlessly, side with the left 100% of the time, never any exceptions. Never. Not once, not ever, no exceptions.

I'm sure you were exactly this skeptical and dismissive when Al Gore filed suits.

I'm sure you were exactly this skeptical and dismissive when Al Gore filed suits.
Which lawsuits did Gore file?

Which lawsuits did Gore file?

Here, you can read about it in the NY Times...

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/01/us/contesting-vote-florida-courts-bush-s-lawyers-attack-suit-gore-challenge-vote.html

"the lawsuit Mr. Gore filed Monday contesting Mr. Bush's victory in Florida"

Got anything else? Or are you good? Can you concede that Gore filed suit? Or are you unable to do that, because that would mean you should allow Trump the same right?

The only way Trump gets to 270 now is if he loses 50 lbs
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Here, you can read about it in the NY Times...

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/01/us/contesting-vote-florida-courts-bush-s-lawyers-attack-suit-gore-challenge-vote.html

"the lawsuit Mr. Gore filed Monday contesting Mr. Bush's victory in Florida"

Got anything else? Or are you good? Can you concede that Gore filed suit? Or are you unable to do that, because that would mean you should allow Trump the same right?
God you're gullible.

In 2000 you had real ballot issues where thousands didn't even know who they voted for, voting machines that were incompletely punching ballots, most of the networks calling the race for Gore prematurely and a final vote tally that triggered an automatic recount.

The situations couldn't be more different.

In 2000 you had real ballot issues where thousands didn't even know who they voted for

.

these were democrats....right? :scream:

God you're gullible.

In 2000 you had real ballot issues where thousands didn't even know who they voted for, voting machines that were incompletely punching ballots, most of the networks calling the race for Gore prematurely and a final vote tally that triggered an automatic recount.

The situations couldn't be more different.

Amazing, this early on, you've had time to evaluate the validity of Trumps claims. Equally amazing, and I mean this is really shocking, you concluded that Gore had a legitimate complaint and Trump doesn't.

I have zero trouble picturing Trump filing frivolous, baseless lawsuits here. But I don't know anything about whether or not his accusations have any validity. Neither do you, obviously, but he has an (R) after his name, and to you that's literally all that matters.

It’s just that Covita’s really bad.
And if you look around you’ll find almost no elected Republic official standing with Trump right now regarding this ridiculous, anti-democratic & desperate plea. He has to rely on his kids and Rudy. This ship is sinking. No one want to go down with him.
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these were democrats....right? :scream:


:hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:

Amazing, this early on, you've had time to evaluate the validity of Trumps claims. Equally amazing, and I mean this is really shocking, you concluded that Gore had a legitimate complaint and Trump doesn't.

I have zero trouble picturing Trump filing frivolous, baseless lawsuits here. But I don't know anything about whether or not his accusations have any validity. Neither do you, obviously, but he has an (R) after his name, and to you that's literally all that matters.
If the vote comes in under a state's recount threshold or there's credible evidence of a process violation they can file, but so far most of what's happening is just throwing #^&#^&#^&#^& out there to see what sticks.

Someone just mentioned this

If Democrats are masters of committing fraud. How come they didn't flip the Senate but lost seats in the House ?..

If you just watched Trumps press conference and still back him.

Grow a spine please.

TRUMP and his family need to be arrested for sedition... inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or this nation and against anyone who opposes Him

Keep in mind Trump read his speech from a prepared text, which presumably means that a number of aides helped him compose this litany of lies and attacks on the integrity of America’s democracy.
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Keep in mind Trump read his speech from a prepared text

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isn't that how it usually works?

TRUMP and his family need to be arrested for sedition... inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or this nation and against anyone who opposes Him



when trump supporters get incited....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkMenBeQoXg&t=97s

Keep in mind Trump read his speech from a prepared text, which presumably means that a number of aides helped him compose this litany of lies and attacks on the integrity of America’s democracy.
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Looking at his face and watching his eyes, I have a feeling that was a hand written set of prepared statements. I think if people had helped him write that, they would have come out and stood behind him.

The guy is alone. Pundits are abandoning him, senators are coming out and saying to count all the votes, it’s falling apart. People around him are pretty sure he’s gonna lose, and are gaining confidence back to speak truth to power.
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such bitterness...maybe this will cheer you guys up....something to look forward to...:rotf2:

such bitterness...maybe this will cheer you guys up....something to look forward to...:rotf2:

Oooh 300 people tweeting stupid stuff, how enlightening that is thanks for the nothing burger. How about the nut job in the White House becoming so unglued and spouting crazy election fraud theories that every network dropped the coverage save one. When he looses and the courts throw all his BS crap in the trash where it belongs, I suspect a major meltdown is coming.

Keep in mind Trump read his speech from a prepared text, which presumably means that a number of aides helped him compose this litany of lies and attacks on the integrity of America’s democracy.
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He has no ideas or vision himself his is a puppet question is who is it fox and friends Hannity the bingo guy on you ou tube ? Directing him

Extra bitter
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two images from the same article in the New York Times yesterday...the first showing violent right wing extremists in action and the second showing peaceful democrats promoting love and unity

Steve Bannon video suggesting violence against Fauci, FBI Director Wray

Something like there heads should be put on spikes outside the white house as a warning



Donald Trump Jr. calls for ‘total war’ in clueless tweet

It’s time to clean up this mess & stop looking like a banana republic!”

He's so smart his whole family are trying to turn the United States into their personal banana republic

https://nypost.com/2020/11/05/terrified-donald-trump-jr-calls-for-total-war-over-election/

I love when wayne gets new words and phrases :laugha:

Now is when Covita's staunchest sycophants & supporters get their ultimate narcissistic supply by showing their devotion & commitment in sacrificial action for the psychopath. It’s sadistic.
Be prepared. The crazy will get worse. Don't engage. Just let their crazy wash over you.

Be prepared. The crazy will get worse.



can we make a list of the times you've promised things that never happened?....it's pretty long......:huh:

can we make a list of the times you've promised things that never happened?....it's pretty long......:huh:

Tell me all about it

I've got another one for you

Biden won

Tell me all about it

I've got another one for you

Biden won

https://youtu.be/48H34ukFe8g
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It’s almost all over but the never fing ending crying Trump has been doing for four years.

If at this point Covita still has you confused with his baloney

Either 100s of local and state officials across a half-dozen states, numerous judges in those same states, and countless voters are all acting in concert to perpetuate a massive conspiracy that subjects most of them to potential felony charges

OR

Trump Lost.

I worry that we're about to get a very vivid lesson in why having a long lame-duck period in politics, where a defeated president still wields full presidential power, is dangerous.

I worry that we're about to get a very vivid lesson in why having a long lame-duck period in politics, where a defeated president still wields full presidential power, is dangerous.

maybe you could pass the time redecorating your bunker:rolleyes:

Too bad Raider Ronnie isn't around anymore.

Tell me all about it

I've got another one for you

Biden won
You do realize Amy Comey Barret is actually an angel dispatched from Africa to intervene right?
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You do realize Amy Comey Barret is actually an angel dispatched from Africa to intervene right?
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Is that what Paula White was saying?
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Is that what Paula White was saying?
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Pretty much
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“I think what the President needs to do is to frankly put his big boy pants on. He needs to acknowledge the fact that he lost and he needs to congratulate the winner”

Philly mayor Jim Kenney

And there is always a tweet


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Vladimir Putin said today about Hillary and Dems: "In my opinion, it is humiliating. One must be able to lose with dignity." So true!
7:13 PM · Dec 23, 2016·Twitter for Android

I'm just astonished that Trump last night, standing behind the presidential seal, went off on the most anti-democratic, anti-American and anti-truth rants likely in the history of any elected office and not a single Trump supporter here has anything to say about it.

So sad.

If at this point Covita still has you confused with his baloney

Either 100s of local and state officials across a half-dozen states, numerous judges in those same states, and countless voters are all acting in concert to perpetuate a massive conspiracy that subjects most of them to potential felony charges

OR

Trump Lost.

They're both true.

They have joined Tweety, the impeached one term president in the bunker, hopefully they didn't drink the koolaid.

Next they will claim that obviously Trump wasn't a racist or misogynist, he put a black woman in the White House...........

I see it as a chilling final turn of the plot. His world is coming to an end. He will never have another good day. Loser label will haunt him. The law will pursue him. Mental illness will hobble him. His properties will bankrupt him.

They have joined Tweety, the impeached one term president in the bunker, hopefully they didn't drink the koolaid.

Next they will claim that obviously Trump wasn't a racist or misogynist, he put a black woman in the White House...........

I see it as a chilling final turn of the plot. His world is coming to an end. He will never have another good day. Loser label will haunt him. The law will pursue him. Mental illness will hobble him. His properties will bankrupt him.

Return of the Swamp.

I'm just astonished that Trump last night, standing behind the presidential seal, went off on the most anti-democratic, anti-American and anti-truth rants likely in the history of any elected office and not a single Trump supporter here has anything to say about it.

So sad.

Said the same thing amazing isn't it .. imagine those words coming for Obama they would be screaming :hang:

Trump or Trump lovers cant explain Michigan Wisconsin Georgia Nevada ,Pennsylvania Utah . all fraud? but any place he won no fraud? look at the logistics needed to coordinate this fraud claimed by Trump and his Minions 159.8 million Americans voted and counting ! How many people how many separate ballots, ballots for different counting systems across the Nation and in 7 or 8 states and the coordination required its pure Fantasy... Yet Trump Lies with out a shred of evidence of the fraud in a scale never seen or imagined except by him and his supporters , half the county think the above is what happen? is lunacy to think its True .. yet if Trump ends up winning their would be no memes no FB book stories no concern over the election no mention of fraud as a concern in our elections.. Why is that? if your an honest person you know why ... Just saying

heres another Question maybe the Trump enablers can explain ps I would love to ask Ted Cruz the same question

this Fraud cry from Trump. its 99% a Trump era Narrative .. All I am saying is 14 guys couldn't even kidnap Governor Whitmore 14! couldn't keep a secret with out the FBI knowing about it .. but some one or some secret Group can rig a National Election across several states . and its only exposed? when Trump started to lose ..(was he with holding back intelligence on this outrage ) with watchers from both sides in the same room? sorry it doesn't add up or pass a basic smell test or the simplest application of critical thinking or basic common sense on how things operate

Trump should be charged with Sedition

I'm just astonished that Trump last night, standing behind the presidential seal, went off on the most anti-democratic, anti-American and anti-truth rants likely in the history of any elected office and not a single Trump supporter here has anything to say about it.

So sad.

Sad but not surprising, the right decided to go down with this ship years back and to listen to our president spew crazy conspiracy theories without major pushback is just proof the Republican Party doesn’t know what to do and still is spineless. It’s not just the fact that he is going to loose the electoral, think about how the Republican Party must be contemplating how they could loose the popular vote in every race but maybe one.

The cruelest cut:
Trump lost 4 of the top 5 states for boat ownership CA, MI, MN and WI

If at this point Covita still has you confused with his baloney

Either 100s of local and state officials across a half-dozen states, numerous judges in those same states, and countless voters are all acting in concert to perpetuate a massive conspiracy that subjects most of them to potential felony charges

OR

Trump Lost.

They're both true.

Here’s a little secret for you.
Americans vote for Congress and the President on the same ballot!

Since Republicans accept the results of House & Senate Congressional elections, they obviously know this is a legitimate election.

It’s time for them to act like it.

Here’s a little secret for you.
Americans vote for Congress and the President on the same ballot!

Since Republicans accept the results of House & Senate Congressional elections, they obviously know this is a legitimate election.

It’s time for them to act like it.

President is national, congressional is by state. Also split tickets. Also fraudulent ballots.

They have joined Tweety, the impeached one term president in the bunker, hopefully they didn't drink the koolaid.

Next they will claim that obviously Trump wasn't a racist or misogynist, he put a black woman in the White House...........

I see it as a chilling final turn of the plot. His world is coming to an end. He will never have another good day. Loser label will haunt him. The law will pursue him. Mental illness will hobble him. His properties will bankrupt him.

Return of the Swamp.

Here is the swamp

Graham: "If we keep the Senate which I think we will and I become Budget chairman. I'd like to create a dialogue about how can we finally begin to address the debt.
You'll see from me a reliable conservative, vote. You'll see from me, stopping an agenda I think is bad for the country. But you'll also see me trying to find common ground that would benefit all of us and a good place to start, I think, would be the debt and infrastructure and immigration."

Finally? So nice of Senator Graham to explicitly concede the defeat of Covita's presidential campaign and his agenda. They’ve controlled the Senate for years, what is he talking about finally? And before that, they controlled the House, and wrote then pushed through tax cuts that greatly expanded the deficit.

Now the arsonists, employed by the fire department, are extremely concerned about the house fires.

President is national, congressional is by state.

They are on the same ballot and all are counted in the same process.

They are on the same ballot and all are counted in the same process.

I edited the reply. Added split tickets and fraudulent ballots. The miracle of winning by finding ballot dumps and counting until you have the right number seems to always favor Democrats.

Hey, I don't think properly faked ballots can be disproved. All the nice things to make voting easier, ballot harvesting, accepting late arrivals, not requiring ID, not requiring proper mailing date, etc., leaves enough wiggle room to create magic votes. But it's OK to accuse Republicans of voter fraud and voter suppression.

So, I suppose, everybody needs to figure out which way is the the best to cheat. Some localities do resemble a banana republic. We're heading in the right direction. It takes an awful lot of corruption and despotism before good folks get riled up enough to have a revolution. Leftists, on the other hand, don't require much motivation to burn down cities.

Here is the swamp

Graham: "If we keep the Senate which I think we will and I become Budget chairman. I'd like to create a dialogue about how can we finally begin to address the debt.
You'll see from me a reliable conservative, vote. You'll see from me, stopping an agenda I think is bad for the country. But you'll also see me trying to find common ground that would benefit all of us and a good place to start, I think, would be the debt and infrastructure and immigration."

Finally? So nice of Senator Graham to explicitly concede the defeat of Covita's presidential campaign and his agenda. They’ve controlled the Senate for years, what is he talking about finally? And before that, they controlled the House, and wrote then pushed through tax cuts that greatly expanded the deficit.

Now the arsonists, employed by the fire department, are extremely concerned about the house fires.

That's part of the swamp. You conveniently left out the rest of it. It will all be coming back. And America will be "normal" again.

I edited the reply. Added split tickets and fraudulent ballots. The miracle of winning by finding ballot dumps and counting until you have the right number seems to always favor Democrats.

Hey, I don't think properly faked ballots can be disproved. All the nice things to make voting easier, ballot harvesting, accepting late arrivals, not requiring ID, not requiring proper mailing date, etc., leaves enough wiggle room to create magic votes. But it's OK to accuse Republicans of voter fraud and voter suppression.

So, I suppose, everybody needs to figure out which way is the the best to cheat. Some localities do resemble a banana republic. We're heading in the right direction. It takes an awful lot of corruption and despotism before good folks get riled up enough to have a revolution. Leftists, on the other hand, don't require much motivation to burn down cities.
This sounds like a slightly more articulate version of what Trump is spouting off on, it's absurd, not based in reality and is even making prominent Republicans throw up.

This sounds like a slightly more articulate version of what Trump is spouting off on, it's absurd, not based in reality and is even making prominent Republicans throw up.

Does that shock you that a Midwest troll who has defended every single Trump move, action, statement has signed on to the whacky voter fraud claim, which Republicans have been trying to prove forever.

This sounds like a slightly more articulate version of what Trump is spouting off on, it's absurd, not based in reality and is even making prominent Republicans throw up.

It's not absurd. It is based in reality. There are "prominent Republicans" who throw up at the mention of Trump.

Does that shock you that a Midwest troll who has defended every single Trump move, action, statement has signed on to the whacky voter fraud claim, which Republicans have been trying to prove forever.

You're a good golfer. Your name calling, inaccurate depiction, and false claim are par for the course.

You're a good golfer. Your name calling, inaccurate depiction, and false claim are par for the course.

Well DeBarr I’d ask you what everyone is asking Trump, where is your proof. Well documented voter fraud is negligible, but somehow you and Trump feel entire states and their government are in league to steel this election......priceless.

It's not absurd. It is based in reality.

Like Kevin McCarthy, the most prominent republican in the house spouting off today that Trump already won. These people must think the American people are really freaking stupid or are just so terrified of Trump they don't have control over their own bodies.

WTF happened to this great nation?

It's not absurd. It is based in reality. There are "prominent Republicans" who throw up at the mention of Trump.

cranky and insulting leftists...you'd think they'd be happy:eek:...they probably feel guilty because they know this is a scam, actually I think they are fine with winning through scam...I bet if weekend at biden's wins they continue to be miserable for the next 4 years

Right it’s a scam in PA, but make sure to count all the votes in Arizona. To funny watching the absurdity.

Well DeBarr I’d ask you what everyone is asking Trump, where is your proof. Well documented voter fraud is negligible, but somehow you and Trump feel entire states and their government are in league to steel this election......priceless.

Where is your proof that the fraud doesn't exist. Much well documented voter fraud has existed and elections have been won with it. Search history of voter fraud in America.

WTF happened to this great nation?

It's been happening gradually for the past 100 years. It's called Progressivism.

Where is your proof that the fraud doesn't exist. Much well documented voter fraud has existed and elections have been won with it. Search history of voter fraud in America.

Oh I know it’s shameful, I suggest you text your brother from another mother our non partisan AG and see if he can’t finally put that travesty to an end.

Trump lost this election not on policies, but on character.
I pray that this is a lesson for every aspiring politician, forever.
Along with that was his incompetence, but with Trump, his incompetence was inextricably intertwined with his complete lack of character.
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I edited the reply. Added split tickets and fraudulent ballots. The miracle of winning by finding ballot dumps and counting until you have the right number seems to always favor Democrats.

Hey, I don't think properly faked ballots can be disproved. All the nice things to make voting easier, ballot harvesting, accepting late arrivals, not requiring ID, not requiring proper mailing date, etc., leaves enough wiggle room to create magic votes. But it's OK to accuse Republicans of voter fraud and voter suppression.

So, I suppose, everybody needs to figure out which way is the the best to cheat. Some localities do resemble a banana republic. We're heading in the right direction. It takes an awful lot of corruption and despotism before good folks get riled up enough to have a revolution. Leftists, on the other hand, don't require much motivation to burn down cities.

The three questions that anyone alleging election fraud must answer:

1. What is your evidence?
2. What is the source for your evidence?
3. What is the reasoning you used to come to your conclusion?

Anyone making a claim who can't answer these three questions is full of 💩

And Oklahoma City didn’t get blown up by a leftist
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The three questions that anyone alleging election fraud must answer:

1. What is your evidence?
2. What is the source for your evidence?
3. What is the reasoning you used to come to your conclusion?

Anyone making a claim who can't answer these three questions is full of ��

And Oklahoma City didn’t get blown up by a leftist


Apparently you don't have to answer those questions when you conclude that Trump conspired with Russia, that he said Nazis were fine people, that he is a racist, that he didn't take responsibility for anything, that he never condemned white supremacy, that he is responsible for the number of covid deaths, and a bunch of other rabid anti-Trump rhetoric that you constantly spout. So you must be full of $hit.

And Oklahoma City didn't get blown up by "good folks."

WTF happened to this great nation?

Jerry Springer, Meth, high fructose corn syrup and reality TV.
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Jerry Springer, Meth, high fructose corn syrup and reality TV.
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Social Media, it gave morons a common forum
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Apparently you don't have to answer those questions when you conclude that Trump conspired with Russia, that he said Nazis were fine people, that he is a racist, that he didn't take responsibility for anything, that he never condemned white supremacy, that he is responsible for the number of covid deaths, and a bunch of other rabid anti-Trump rhetoric that you constantly spout. So you must be full of $hit.

And Oklahoma City didn't get blown up by "good folks."

If you were going to rig an election, why would you leave Mitch McConnell in office? Asking for most of the US.
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If you were going to rig an election, why would you leave Mitch McConnell in office? Asking for most of the US.

Rig it where you can. Cities like Detroit, Pheladelphia, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Milwaukee, give Democrats the most fertile ground for corruption in their favor.

You really shouldn’t wear the tin foil conspiracy hat all day, give your brain a break, it’s hard to absorb stuff that crazy. Quite the well organized conspiracy, involving local state government, local AG’s and local poll works and all under the oversight of observers from both parties.

cranky and insulting leftists...you'd think they'd be happy:eek:...they probably feel guilty because they know this is a scam, actually I think they are fine with winning through scam...I bet if weekend at biden's wins they continue to be miserable for the next 4 years

:sleeps::sleeps::sleeps::sleeps::sleeps:

two images from the same article in the New York Times yesterday...the first showing violent right wing extremists in action and the second showing peaceful democrats promoting love and unity

I was under the impression that this is the way both sides spends their time
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Rig it where you can. Cities like Detroit, Pheladelphia, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Milwaukee, give Democrats the most fertile ground for corruption in their favor.

your are the person we've always said you where fed by You Tube with a steady drip of conspiracy Hiding behind long windy proclamations of constant constitutional references or new secrets

and forwarding Trumps claims and Fox... Detroit, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Milwaukee, give Democrats the most fertile ground for corruption in their favor!!

I think what upsets Trump and His Supporters the most is those areas are predominately Areas of people of Color .. And how dare they vote to remove the man who has done the most for them:lasso:

Armed men arrested in Philadelphia were trying to deliver fake ballots

we can catch 2 clowns from VA with Qanon sympathies with a truck load of fake ballots in an attempt to stage a ballot dump

But we cant find the fraud that Trump and You claim is happening :btu:

Jerry Springer, Meth, high fructose corn syrup and reality TV.
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You left out Newt Gingrich
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You left out Newt Gingrich
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Newt has probably done more than any other public figure to poison politics in my lifetime.

Whelp,
All over now, ‘cept the whining.
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your are the person we've always said you where fed by You Tube with a steady drip of conspiracy Hiding behind long windy proclamations of constant constitutional references or new secrets

You mean like the steady drip of conspiracy about Trump colluding with Russia that the honored legacy media which you trust kept reporting and claiming--which all turned out to be a hoax?

and forwarding Trumps claims and Fox... Detroit, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Milwaukee, give Democrats the most fertile ground for corruption in their favor!!

I think what upsets Trump and His Supporters the most is those areas are predominately Areas of people of Color .. And how dare they vote to remove the man who has done the most for them:lasso:

So you have this racist opinion that all blacks voted for Biden and there are not significant number of white folks in those cities. And yeah, those cities have had checkered pasts of corruption in their history. And they have strong Democrat political machines running them.


Armed men arrested in Philadelphia were trying to deliver fake ballots

we can catch 2 clowns from VA with Qanon sympathies with a truck load of fake ballots in an attempt to stage a ballot dump

But we cant find the fraud that Trump and You claim is happening :btu:

C'mon man! There have been votes cast for Trump found thrown away. And it is documented by a large number of Republican ballot watchers in Philadelphia being denied their legal ability to to actually be able to witness if ballots were legitimate. It appears that also happened in other cities as well.

And well done fraud, even if it is in your face and obvious, is difficult, if not impossible, to prove. I suspected shortly after 11PM election night (when Trump was comfortably ahead in the states he needed to win and the counting was stopped in MI, WI, and PA, and would begin the next day, and very shortly after 11PM that Biden had a televised announcement that he was sure of victory and that he even would win PA even though he was almost 800,000 votes behind) that the election was over and Biden would win.

Why stop the counting at 11PM? Maybe to set in motion plan B if Biden was behind in order to switch the legit counting and coordinate the plan to rig the process in order to keep "counting" until you magically got the number needed to win? Yeah, dumb conspiracy me, I concluded at about 11PM election night, even though Trump was ahead, that Biden would "win."

And that is not whining, it is just fact. Move on toward the midterms and take over the House while keeping the Senate--which, ironically, might help Biden if the Repubs can block the economy destroying moves he plans and the economy keeps the rapid recovery and beyond. But I think, if the Dems carry out their promise to rescind everything Trump has done, the economy will stagnate into the Obama era "new normal," and military spending may somehow be curtailed, and the tariffs on China will be lifted and it will be allowed to continue in full force its objective to dominate the world and make us dependent on it.

If you want to get another, and intelligent, opinion besides the sources that have mislead you in other respects, read this article by Brian T. Kennedy titled Facing Up to the China Threat--https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/facing-china-threat/ . Or remain blissfully ignorant.

C'mon man! There have been votes cast for Trump found thrown away. And it is documented by a large number of Republican ballot watchers in Philadelphia being denied their legal ability to to actually be able to witness if ballots were legitimate. It appears that also happened in other cities as well.

And well done fraud, even if it is in your face and obvious, is difficult, if not impossible, to prove. I suspected shortly after 11PM election night (when Trump was comfortably ahead in the states he needed to win and the counting was stopped in MI, WI, and PA, and would begin the next day, and very shortly after 11PM that Biden had a televised announcement that he was sure of victory and that he even would win PA even though he was almost 800,000 votes behind) that the election was over and Biden would win.

Why stop the counting at 11PM? Maybe to set in motion plan B if Biden was behind in order to switch the legit counting and coordinate the plan to rig the process in order to keep "counting" until you magically got the number needed to win? Yeah, dumb conspiracy me, I concluded at about 11PM election night, even though Trump was ahead, that Biden would "win."

And that is not whining, it is just fact. Move on toward the midterms and take over the House while keeping the Senate--which, ironically, might help Biden if the Repubs can block the economy destroying moves he plans and the economy keeps the rapid recovery and beyond. But I think, if the Dems carry out their promise to rescind everything Trump has done, the economy will stagnate into the Obama era "new normal," and military spending may somehow be curtailed, and the tariffs on China will be lifted and it will be allowed to continue in full force its objective to dominate the world and make us dependent on it.

If you want to get another, and intelligent, opinion besides the sources that have mislead you in other respects, read this article by Brian T. Kennedy titled Facing Up to the China Threat--https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/facing-china-threat/ . Or remain blissfully ignorant.

Your ability to use conveniently irrelevant facts to back up convenient implications of impropriety is impressive
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Social Media, it gave morons a common forum
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A lot of truth to this. I don’t know if I’d say a common forum though as much an equal voice.
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Leaders from our allies around the world are sending congrats and a thank god and Trump and his boot liking GOP are silent, probably gasping for air as their ship sinks.

“ So the race ends as the President golfs—and his pathetic aides stage a shambolic press conference at a landscaping company next to a dildo store. I couldn’t have precisely predicted this, but it seems inevitable really.”
Garret Graff
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when trump supporters get incited....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkMenBeQoXg&t=97s

The crowd outside the White House celebrating Joe Biden’s projected victory is blaring YMCA — the song President Trump closed out his latest rallies with.
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Donald Trump Celebrates Most Ever ‘Legal Votes’ for Sitting President Take a ride over to Breitbart. And witness the melt down .. I love this excuse. Since when do news networks choose The President. Funny it was acceptable in 2016 when media outlets called it for Trump now not so much 🙈
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Leaders Of Hungary And Slovenia, Stout Trump Allies In EU, Say U.S. Vote Isn't Over
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Leaders Of Hungary And Slovenia, Stout Trump Allies In EU, Say U.S. Vote Isn't Over
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Isn’t Slovenia where Melania is from?
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Isn’t Slovenia where Melania is from?
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Yes that’s what’s on her bill of sale
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bitter awful people :shocked:

bitter awful people :shocked:


TRUMP REPORTEDLY CONSIDERING LAUNCHING FOX NEWS RIVAL NETWORK

life after, anger at Fox / Murdoch family cannot be understated. Should he lose, Trump wants to destroy Fox - aides believe they can steal hosts Hannity & Carlson. Sources believe Trump will never admit he lost should we get there - instead stick with “rigged” “fraud” “stolen”

At least you’ll have a new station to watch dedicated to telling its viewers what they want to hear
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TRUMP REPORTEDLY CONSIDERING LAUNCHING FOX NEWS RIVAL NETWORK


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this would be fun....

bitter awful people :shocked:

Yes, the Trumps are.
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oops....democrats are embarrassing us around the world :laugha:


"One Mexican election authority is aghast at the fraud he has seen among Democrats in the 2020 election.

“The fraud I have seen in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and some other states is so evident,” he said on condition of anonymity, that “it rivals the worst of what we have had in Mexico.”

Mexico’s dominant Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) held onto power for decades through a combination of ruthless central control via an unaccountable bureaucracy, a powerful political police, economic nationalism, and massive corruption and patronage. The country has come a long way in recent years but still has far to go.

Even so, Mexicans are aghast at the Biden machine’s electoral corruption.

“Mexican and Latin American ‘fraud experts’ like PRI wouldn’t believe how easy it is to rig elections in the United States,” the Mexican election authority told me. “And it’s very clear that Democrats used every tool at hand to force a win. As far as I can see, they are ‘stealing the election, fair and square.’”

Most countries south of the border are strict about ensuring one person, one vote. No foreigners are allowed to vote. Quality of voter integrity varies.

“We have a very strict voting system in El Salvador,” says Ambassador Francisco Lainez, a former foreign minister. “Every citizen over 18 has what’s called a Unique Identity Document bearing his or her name, personal information, and digital photo, fingerprint, and signature. Every voter must present that ID when requesting a ballot at the voting booth,” he said, perhaps too diplomatic to make a comment either way about the unfolding vote count in the United States.

I’ve seen El Salvador’s political process evolve since the Communist insurgency in the 1980s. As an official international election observer after the war, I was impressed with strict adherence to voter ID for everyone and measures to ensure that people vote only once.

Every democracy has its problems with fraud and abuse, and our southern neighbors have their fair share. Mexico still has trouble with “the substitution of ballots,” the Mexican election authority says, referring to wholesale dumping of real ballots and replacing them with faked ballots to be counted. “Entire blocks of cast votes were changed by others. All in favor of one candidate. These are very easy to spot. It’s impossible to have 100 percent of the votes for one option.”

It’s just as easy to spot in the United States, if those counting the ballots allow others to watch.

Traditional voter fraud in Mexico persists in some areas with “the nullification of ballots,” or “with writing on ballots, marking votes for multiple candidates, or whatever is needed to prevent those ballots from being counted,” the election authority told me. And then there is what he called “increasing the amount of ballots, exceeding the turnout.”

Biden’s Vote-Rigging Would Leave Mexican Vote Fraudsters Breathless
It’s the specific steps that Mexico has taken to prevent voter fraud at the ballot box—and to prevent noncitizens from voting at all—that reveal how Democrats in the United States have made politics dirtier than Mexico’s.

With a population of 129 million, Mexico is the 10th most populous country in the world. That leaves a lot of room for electoral fraud.

The PRI tolerated regional or token competition as long as opponents didn’t threaten its fundamental grip on power. Over time, however, Mexico’s spectacularly corrupt one-party state gave way to a real democratic system that, for all is shortcomings, the country guards jealously. In recent decades, opposition leaders ranging from conservative to Marxist have overcome the PRI to win the presidency.

Even the PRI would find American vote-rigging in 2020 too staggering to behold.

Vote by mail? No way. “In Mexico, and in Latin America, there is not a chance to mail votes. Mail service is terrible, no one would accept losing control of their vote,” the Mexican election authority says. He never heard of drive-thru voting until watching the 2020 U.S. election.

Vote on any day but Election Day? Never. Even applying to vote absentee requires the voter to appear in person with an ID three months in advance, and with a solid reason.

Can dead people still vote in Mexico? “Right now it is very difficult,” the official tells me. “But years before it was a very common fraud practice, as well as prison inmates and migrants.”

Mexico is as nationalistic as a country can be. It’s proud of its traditions and its sovereignty. It aggressively protects its system from foreign interference. And it has one of the toughest voter ID systems around.

All adult citizens must have national identification cards. One such ID is a voter card, called “Credencial para votar,” literally “credential for voting.” It resembles an American state driver’s license with name, address, age, sex, place of residence, and a photo of the bearer, plus a unique “clave de elector” or “voter key” that functions like an voter equivalent of an American Social Security number, but without the taxation or handouts. (There’s a different personal number for those in Mexico.)

This key is an 18-character alphanumeric code derived from letters from the individual’s given name, surname, mother’s maiden name or matronymic, the first internal consonant of each name, plus the numerical date of birth, two digits indicating the place of birth, either of the two genders, and a computer-generated suffix to prevent duplication. It contains numeric designations of the citizen’s state, district, municipality, neighborhood, and subsection. Unlike in America, Mexicans don’t appear on the voter rolls of multiple jurisdictions.


The code also indicates whether the Mexican citizen was foreign-born, natural-born to Mexican parents abroad, or a naturalized immigrant. Foreign status is important in Mexico, a country tough on illegal immigration and where foreigners are forbidden to interfere at all in politics.

The reverse of the credential-to-vote card contains the individual’s digitized signature and fingerprint, with personal data stored on a magnetic strip similar to those on a credit card. The card is protected with holograms and ultraviolet ink, all sealed in plastic.

In other words, Mexico runs a very tight ship to track its citizens—more than the average American would or probably should ever tolerate—to protect its electoral system from fraud and foreign interference.

If a Mexican citizen shows up at the polling station without showing this form of ID, he can’t vote. All of this shows why Mexico’s electoral process is cleaner than ours in America."

oops....democrats are embarrassing us around the world :laugha:


"One Mexican election authority is aghast at the fraud he has seen among Democrats in the 2020 election.

“The fraud I have seen in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and some other states is so evident,” he said on condition of anonymity, that “it rivals the worst of what we have had in Mexico.”

Mexico’s dominant Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) held onto power for decades through a combination of ruthless central control via an unaccountable bureaucracy, a powerful political police, economic nationalism, and massive corruption and patronage. The country has come a long way in recent years but still has far to go.

Even so, Mexicans are aghast at the Biden machine’s electoral corruption.

“Mexican and Latin American ‘fraud experts’ like PRI wouldn’t believe how easy it is to rig elections in the United States,” the Mexican election authority told me. “And it’s very clear that Democrats used every tool at hand to force a win. As far as I can see, they are ‘stealing the election, fair and square.’”

Most countries south of the border are strict about ensuring one person, one vote. No foreigners are allowed to vote. Quality of voter integrity varies.

“We have a very strict voting system in El Salvador,” says Ambassador Francisco Lainez, a former foreign minister. “Every citizen over 18 has what’s called a Unique Identity Document bearing his or her name, personal information, and digital photo, fingerprint, and signature. Every voter must present that ID when requesting a ballot at the voting booth,” he said, perhaps too diplomatic to make a comment either way about the unfolding vote count in the United States.

I’ve seen El Salvador’s political process evolve since the Communist insurgency in the 1980s. As an official international election observer after the war, I was impressed with strict adherence to voter ID for everyone and measures to ensure that people vote only once.

Every democracy has its problems with fraud and abuse, and our southern neighbors have their fair share. Mexico still has trouble with “the substitution of ballots,” the Mexican election authority says, referring to wholesale dumping of real ballots and replacing them with faked ballots to be counted. “Entire blocks of cast votes were changed by others. All in favor of one candidate. These are very easy to spot. It’s impossible to have 100 percent of the votes for one option.”

It’s just as easy to spot in the United States, if those counting the ballots allow others to watch.

Traditional voter fraud in Mexico persists in some areas with “the nullification of ballots,” or “with writing on ballots, marking votes for multiple candidates, or whatever is needed to prevent those ballots from being counted,” the election authority told me. And then there is what he called “increasing the amount of ballots, exceeding the turnout.”

Biden’s Vote-Rigging Would Leave Mexican Vote Fraudsters Breathless
It’s the specific steps that Mexico has taken to prevent voter fraud at the ballot box—and to prevent noncitizens from voting at all—that reveal how Democrats in the United States have made politics dirtier than Mexico’s.

With a population of 129 million, Mexico is the 10th most populous country in the world. That leaves a lot of room for electoral fraud.

The PRI tolerated regional or token competition as long as opponents didn’t threaten its fundamental grip on power. Over time, however, Mexico’s spectacularly corrupt one-party state gave way to a real democratic system that, for all is shortcomings, the country guards jealously. In recent decades, opposition leaders ranging from conservative to Marxist have overcome the PRI to win the presidency.

Even the PRI would find American vote-rigging in 2020 too staggering to behold.

Vote by mail? No way. “In Mexico, and in Latin America, there is not a chance to mail votes. Mail service is terrible, no one would accept losing control of their vote,” the Mexican election authority says. He never heard of drive-thru voting until watching the 2020 U.S. election.

Vote on any day but Election Day? Never. Even applying to vote absentee requires the voter to appear in person with an ID three months in advance, and with a solid reason.

Can dead people still vote in Mexico? “Right now it is very difficult,” the official tells me. “But years before it was a very common fraud practice, as well as prison inmates and migrants.”

Mexico is as nationalistic as a country can be. It’s proud of its traditions and its sovereignty. It aggressively protects its system from foreign interference. And it has one of the toughest voter ID systems around.

All adult citizens must have national identification cards. One such ID is a voter card, called “Credencial para votar,” literally “credential for voting.” It resembles an American state driver’s license with name, address, age, sex, place of residence, and a photo of the bearer, plus a unique “clave de elector” or “voter key” that functions like an voter equivalent of an American Social Security number, but without the taxation or handouts. (There’s a different personal number for those in Mexico.)

This key is an 18-character alphanumeric code derived from letters from the individual’s given name, surname, mother’s maiden name or matronymic, the first internal consonant of each name, plus the numerical date of birth, two digits indicating the place of birth, either of the two genders, and a computer-generated suffix to prevent duplication. It contains numeric designations of the citizen’s state, district, municipality, neighborhood, and subsection. Unlike in America, Mexicans don’t appear on the voter rolls of multiple jurisdictions.


The code also indicates whether the Mexican citizen was foreign-born, natural-born to Mexican parents abroad, or a naturalized immigrant. Foreign status is important in Mexico, a country tough on illegal immigration and where foreigners are forbidden to interfere at all in politics.

The reverse of the credential-to-vote card contains the individual’s digitized signature and fingerprint, with personal data stored on a magnetic strip similar to those on a credit card. The card is protected with holograms and ultraviolet ink, all sealed in plastic.

In other words, Mexico runs a very tight ship to track its citizens—more than the average American would or probably should ever tolerate—to protect its electoral system from fraud and foreign interference.

If a Mexican citizen shows up at the polling station without showing this form of ID, he can’t vote. All of this shows why Mexico’s electoral process is cleaner than ours in America."

Wow now your using Mexican experts . To defend Trumps claims of fraud Cool from a source that can’t get much farther right .. hea hea kool aid
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Wow now your using Mexican experts . To defend Trumps claims of fraud Cool
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"authority speaking on conditions of anonymity"

works for the democrats and New York Times every time ....:hihi:

Now the Trumplicans want National Identity Cards?
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"authority speaking on conditions of anonymity"

works for the democrats and New York Times every time ....:hihi:

Anonymity its not the issue but a Mexican fraud expert that’s funny
Maybe he’s an illegal and and that’s why he’s wants Anonymity
And then you got fox host
Levin called on Republican-controlled state legislatures to disregard the results of the 2020 election and send electors to the Electoral College who would vote for Trump...

What an upstanding American
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Anonymity its not the issue but a Mexican fraud expert that’s funny
Maybe he’s an illegal and and that’s why he’s wants Anonymity
And then you got fox host
Levin called on Republican-controlled state legislatures to disregard the results of the 2020 election and send electors to the Electoral College who would vote for Trump...

What an upstanding American
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Flailing,,,,,,if there is nothing there then the investigation should show nothing ...right? What are you afraid of?
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Now the Trumplicans want National Identity Cards?
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No, just an id to vote. They even do it in Mexico😁
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No, just an id to vote. They even do it in Mexico😁
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They have national identity cards
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They have national identity cards
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and we have many acceptable forms of id

and we have many acceptable forms of id

Apparently you didn’t read the article you cited
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Flailing,,,,,,if there is nothing there then the investigation should show nothing ...right? What are you afraid of?
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Afraid the sitting president Is attacking our elections suggestions at a scale of a James Bond film . With zero evidence of how this massive fraud was committed just to stay in power and his party and like minded people such as yourself

don’t have an issue with Trump lying or suggesting fraud pre election or post election we all ready know all that.. another shinning example of how your putting man before Nation

Clearly rallies size has poisoned the minds of Trump supporters . A classic example of being in an echo chamber . Nothing exist out side that event
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how this massive fraud was committed just to stay in power and his

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don't underestimate the democrats...we've seen that they are quite ruthless in their attempt to stay in or gain power and they have the media and the technocracy at their disposal..

According to Trump, Nearly Everyone Is Conspiring To Deny Him His Rightful Victory
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Biden is ahead of Trump by 45,000 in Pennsylvania.

Biden now has 12,337 more votes in Georgia than Trump.

The margin between Gore and Bush in Florida in 2000 was 537 votes.

There’s a difference between “clear” and “close.”
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don't underestimate the democrats...we've seen that they are quite ruthless in their attempt to stay in or gain power and they have the media and the technocracy at their disposal..

Classic you have no issues with Republicans still not providing evidence of the biggest crime in American history

You just expect everyone else to show proof it didn’t happen

Like most conservative thinkers you think every ones as gullible as their voters
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