doing untold damage to its own future AND to the country, the United States of America, by prolonging the inevitable, a concession. Pompeo, especially threw himself on the sword by saying it would be a normal transition to a second Trump administration.... What?????

Unless, unless....they are planning what amounts to a coup d'état.... Absolutely disgusting. Senators falling in line to fight this fight equally embarrassing. McConnell has lost what little respect I still had for him. I mean, C'MON MAN!!!! Your man lost! Grow up and own it. This is putting the security of the country in a very vulnerable position.



I have edited the above, correcting that it was Secretary of State Pompeo who made that statement. Barr has only totally politicized the DOJ with this most recent investigation

doing untold damage to its own future AND to the country, the United States of America, by prolonging the inevitable, a concession. Barr, especially threw himself on the sword by saying it would be a normal transition to a second Trump administration.... What?????

Unless, unless....they are planning what amounts to a coup d'état.... Absolutely disgusting. Senators falling in line to fight this fight equally embarrassing. McConnell has lost what little respect I still had for him. I mean, C'MON MAN!!!! Your man lost! Grow up and own it. This is putting the security of the country in a very vulnerable position.

The democrats fought like tigers for over three years, they came out OK.

If people sign legal affadavits saying they saw irregularities, what, we should ignore that?

The electors are going to pick Biden in December, Bide will be the POTUS, Trump will make an azz out of himself but won't have to be dragged out of there.

Why do so many people feel that Trump is the whole GOP, that there's nothing more to the GOP than Trump? Nikki Haley, Tom Cotton, Dan Crenshaw, these people don't matter at all?

The Democratic party was annihilated at federal, state, and local levels during the Obama years, but the Democrats came back. The pendulum never stops swinging.

What the hell is that, Jim? Bunch of double spaced filler in a letter to the editor? Stand up and give us your stance. Are they right, or wrong, in your opinion, to be doing this?


And yes, Trump is the whole party because NO ONE dares stand up to him....

doing untold damage to its own future AND to the country, the United States of America, by prolonging the inevitable, a concession. Barr, especially threw himself on the sword by saying it would be a normal transition to a second Trump administration.... What?????

Unless, unless....they are planning what amounts to a coup d'état.... Absolutely disgusting. Senators falling in line to fight this fight equally embarrassing. McConnell has lost what little respect I still had for him. I mean, C'MON MAN!!!! Your man lost! Grow up and own it. This is putting the security of the country in a very vulnerable position.

Didn't you say before that you thought the idea of the leaders of the CIA and FBI attempting a coup to overthrow Trump was too ridiculous to believe?

What the hell is that, Jim? Bunch of double spaced filler in a letter to the editor? Stand up and give us your stance. Are they right, or wrong, in your opinion, to be doing this?


And yes, Trump is the whole party because NO ONE dares stand up to him....

Jim is a desperate clinger, holding on to the last conspiracy theory that Trump and his fu*cked up boot lickers are trying to legitimize. Crap even Fox News has called this one, we can only hope our enemies don’t strike while the fool is still in charge.

Between 2000 and 2014 over one billion (1,000,000,000) votes were cast in American elections. The number of documented cases of voter fraud? 32

And yet 70% of Republicans do not believe the 2020 election was free and fair.
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Jim no one signed sign legal affadavits saying they saw irregularities, to proper authority IE police or local DAs
They were generated by Trumps campaign and all have failed ,, the last one told investigators he lied

Nikki Haley, left a sinking ship to run in 2024. Tom Cotton, A trumps mini me Dan Crenshaw is alone on an island

Stay focused Trump and Republicans only care about power not the constitution not the country .they have always hid behind the flag . all they see are 71 million Trump voters and it’s disgusting to watch

They don’t want to lead American they want to Rule America.. and their supporters are willing participants marching the country down a path of no return , following a pied piper who has never told the Truth wishing to expand their freedoms while suppressing others whom they disagree and calling it Patriotism.

When in fact it’s far more sinister it’s called Fascism. Blinded by the bogie man called socialism spread day in day and day out based on fiction with no consideration to The lesson of history
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It’s beyond pathetic. Trump lost.
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Between 2000 and 2014 over one billion (1,000,000,000) votes were cast in American elections. The number of documented cases of voter fraud? 32

And yet 70% of Republicans do not believe the 2020 election was free and fair.
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And many the those cases were committed wait for it Republicans
One case was so bad due to Republicans fraud it was done over
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Just read this

From AP. The Trump campaign’s strategy to file a barrage of lawsuits challenging President-elect Joe Biden’s win is more about providing President Donald Trump with an off-ramp for a loss he can’t quite grasp and less about changing the election’s outcome, according to senior officials, campaign aides and allies who spoke to The Associated Press.
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Look their attacking AOC for suggesting don’t forget the Republicans who are carrying Trumps fraud water..

Their running OMG there keeping lists of Republicans..

Wow holding people’s public stances and statements who are elected officials is normal it part of the Public Record
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doing untold damage to its own future AND to the country, the United States of America, by prolonging the inevitable, a concession. Pompeo, especially threw himself on the sword by saying it would be a normal transition to a second Trump administration.... What?????

Unless, unless....they are planning what amounts to a coup d'état.... Absolutely disgusting. Senators falling in line to fight this fight equally embarrassing. McConnell has lost what little respect I still had for him. I mean, C'MON MAN!!!! Your man lost! Grow up and own it. This is putting the security of the country in a very vulnerable position.



I have edited the above, correcting that it was Secretary of State Pompeo who made that statement. Barr has only totally politicized the DOJ with this most recent investigation
Does it feel a little like the Andromeda Strain but for some reason you are immune? I’m serious here.
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Just think how many lives could have been saved if Republicans put as much effort into fighting COVID as they have put into fighting nonexistent voter fraud.
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What the hell is that, Jim? Bunch of double spaced filler in a letter to the editor? Stand up and give us your stance. Are they right, or wrong, in your opinion, to be doing this?


And yes, Trump is the whole party because NO ONE dares stand up to him....

i’m sure there was fraud ( my wife cited very early, but her name wasn’t crossed off when i voted on election day, so she could’ve voted again. there are signed affidavits from people who say they saw irregularities), probably not hundreds of thousands of cases. of course that should be looked into. naturally, trumps words are way over the top and inappropriate.
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turtle boy who is still defending Trumps claims of fraud. However had no issues posing with the newly ELECT Republican Senators . Funny how that works, Senator Johnson was asked by reporters if he has congratulated Biden , his response. “For What”. not interested in leading more interested in votes. Caring more about Red VS Blue states
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Says it all


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpOnt1cByT4

Says it all


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpOnt1cByT4

Hahahahaha!!!!

I noticed the sound byte where the guy said “radical left”. I don’t watch cable tv “news” so I have to wonder if that term is used all the time?? I hear it used by some of my older family members who are addicted to watching fox. According to them, I am radical left and a threat to their conservative beliefs. LOL.

I would love to know how many people are truly brainwashed by watching that crapola. I miss Walter Cronkite and the days where the news was just facts and it forced you to be a critical thinker.
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i’m sure there was fraud ( my wife cited very early, but her name wasn’t crossed off when i voted on election day, so she could’ve voted again. there are signed affidavits from people who say they saw irregularities), probably not hundreds of thousands of cases. of course that should be looked into. naturally, trumps words are way over the top and inappropriate.
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Quick, get this dubious breaking news to Rudy!

You didn’t really answer his question by the way.
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turtle boy who is still defending Trumps claims of fraud. However had no issues posing with the newly ELECT Republican Senators . Funny how that works, Senator Johnson was asked by reporters if he has congratulated Biden , his response. “For What”. not interested in leading more interested in votes. Caring more about Red VS Blue states
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Personally, I doubt very seriously that fraud changed the outcome. I don't believe that, I was expecting Trump to get creamed as soon as covid hit our shores. I personally don't think it made a big difference in this election.

However, they aren't "just Trumps claims" of fraud. There are people who signed affadavits (which are legal documents, look up the definition) that they saw irregularities take place. Why the heck wouldn't you want that looked into? THAT'S what's interesting to me. Why are you so determined to sweep under the rug, every single person who says they have evidence of fraud? How can you know, that not one of those claims has merit? You've investigated them all? Or, do you always, automatically, conclude whatever helps your side, every single time, zero exceptions?


You're right Wayne, we should all just accept the loss and move on, look forward to 4 years from now...just like your side did in 2016, right? Your side immediately accepted the results of that election, never said or did anything to try and undermine the will of the people. Nope, not once. Right? Right? How can you say this with a straight face?

Where the f*** do you people get off, lecturing ANYBODY about accepting defeat? How many riots have republicans started since the election? How many Walmarts have we burned to the ground? How many cops have we killed?

What's good for the goose...

Jim no one signed sign legal affadavits saying they saw irregularities, to proper authority IE police or local DAs
They were generated by Trumps campaign and all have failed ,, the last one told investigators he lied

Nikki Haley, left a sinking ship to run in 2024. Tom Cotton, A trumps mini me Dan Crenshaw is alone on an island

Stay focused Trump and Republicans only care about power not the constitution not the country .they have always hid behind the flag . all they see are 71 million Trump voters and it’s disgusting to watch

They don’t want to lead American they want to Rule America.. and their supporters are willing participants marching the country down a path of no return , following a pied piper who has never told the Truth wishing to expand their freedoms while suppressing others whom they disagree and calling it Patriotism.

When in fact it’s far more sinister it’s called Fascism. Blinded by the bogie man called socialism spread day in day and day out based on fiction with no consideration to The lesson of history
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"no one signed sign legal affadavits saying they saw irregularities"

Where are you getting that info?

https://lidblog.com/sworn-affidavits-showing-voter-fraud/

Poor victim

In 2016, Trump won MI, PA, and WI by a combined 77,000 votes. Clinton conceded and he met with Obama 48 hours after the election.

In 2020, Biden won those same states by a combined 214,000 votes (and counting). Trump, his admin and GOP leaders won't recognize the outcome.


Meanwhile there is a a furious behind-the-scenes battle to counter Trump’s threat to national security.

Jim is a desperate clinger, holding on to the last conspiracy theory that Trump and his fu*cked up boot lickers are trying to legitimize. Crap even Fox News has called this one, we can only hope our enemies don’t strike while the fool is still in charge.

"Jim is a desperate clinger"

A blatant lie. I criticize Trump and Republicans all the time.

"holding on to the last conspiracy theory that Trump and his fu*cked up boot lickers are trying to legitimize'

Me: I don't believe voter fraud came close to rising to the level that it changed the outcome of the election. I think legal votes result in Biden winning. I am very confident of that. That's what I believe, I thought for a year Trump was going to lose.

GS response: Jim is one of the conspiracy theorists claiming the election was stolen!

I am an honest, reasonable, thoughtful person, GS. And you can't handle it. So you blatantly lie. How can you interpret my position, as believing in any conspiracy theory? Please explain?

Your side desperately clung to nonsensical conspiracy theories for three years.

Quick, get this dubious breaking news to Rudy!

You didn’t really answer his question by the way.
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What question didn't I answer?

Your daily reminder that President-elect Biden won this election with highest percentage for a challenger since FDR in 1932. A landslide.

What the hell is that, Jim? Bunch of double spaced filler in a letter to the editor? Stand up and give us your stance. Are they right, or wrong, in your opinion, to be doing this?


And yes, Trump is the whole party because NO ONE dares stand up to him....

"Are they right, or wrong, in your opinion, to be doing this?"

They are right to be looking into it. They are wrong, to be saying that fraud is the reason why Biden won. We don't have any reason to believe that at this point. But there's plenty of reason to believe there was preventable fraud. As I said, I'm one guy, and I sure didn't go looking for any fraud, but I saw a huge hole in the system that would have absolutely allowed my wife to vote twice. Why would anyone believe hers was the only case where that happened? She voted early, way before election day, but her name wasn't crossed off. I was told on election day, that she could come down and vote.

Can I answer it any more directly? Yes, there are some things that need to be investigated, so that all reasonable people feel confident about the results. But Trump should not be shooting his mouth off that he knows he got robbed.

My position? Shut him up, but do a reasonable investigation into claims that have merit.

Is that a crazy notion? I don't think so. It's not partisan conspiracy lunacy that the left engaged in for three years after the 2016 election (we have his tax returns! Russia! Collusion! ) They were calling for impeachment, literally, before he took office. That's not crazy?

"Jim is a desperate clinger"

A blatant lie. I criticize Trump and Republicans all the time.

"holding on to the last conspiracy theory that Trump and his fu*cked up boot lickers are trying to legitimize'

Me: I don't believe voter fraud came close to rising to the level that it changed the outcome of the election. I think legal votes result in Biden winning. I am very confident of that. That's what I believe, I thought for a year Trump was going to lose.

GS response: Jim is one of the conspiracy theorists claiming the election was stolen!

I am an honest, reasonable, thoughtful person, GS. And you can't handle it. So you blatantly lie. How can you interpret my position, as believing in any conspiracy theory? Please explain?

Your side desperately clung to nonsensical conspiracy theories for three years.

Sorry Jim didn't mean to strike a nerve, oh wait yes I did and apparently it worked. FYI my "interpretation" of your position by definition means its an opinion not a lie. Carry on with your defense strategy.

Nikki Haley, left a sinking ship to run in 2024. Tom Cotton, A trumps mini me Dan Crenshaw is alone on an island


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Tom Cotton is a Trump mini-me? He's as obnoxious and offensive as Trump? He's as immoral?

Cotton graduated cum laude (look up what that means) from Harvard and then Harvard Law. Instead of chasing money, he enlisted in the Army. They wanted him to be a JAG lawyer, he said no thanks I want the infantry, so he saw combat.

Nothing honorable there in your eyes? You see noting brave, or selfless, in that story? You see no patriotism, no integrity, NOTHING that deserves any credit? All you see, is a miniature Trump?

You stick with that, Einstein.

Sorry Jim didn't mean to strike a nerve, oh wait yes I did and apparently it worked. FYI my "interpretation" of your position by definition means its an opinion not a lie. Carry on with your defense strategy.

You struck no nerve. You told a humiliating lie. That doesn't do anything to me, doesn't say anything about me. Just you.

Again, how can any sane person interpret my position as any kind of clinging to stupid conspiracy theories? Please explain?

If I say explicitly that I don't think fraud made a difference, how could ANYONE conclude that I'm clinging to conspiracy theories? How could you possibly connect those dots?

Tom Cotton is a Trump mini-me? He's as obnoxious and offensive as Trump? He's as immoral?

Cotton graduated cum laude (look up what that means) from Harvard and then Harvard Law. Instead of chasing money, he enlisted in the Army. They wanted him to be a JAG lawyer, he said no thanks I want the infantry, so he saw combat.

Nothing honorable there in your eyes? You see noting brave, or selfless, in that story? You see no patriotism, no integrity, NOTHING that deserves any credit? All you see, is a miniature Trump?

You stick with that, Einstein.

your clueless . reguardless of his past accomplishments Doesn't excuse him from the present.. Clearly you are influenced by shiny objects you ran to Amy defense in the same manner

I guess you think he is a hero for his letter to Iran clearly

Un-patriot games: GOP senators' letter to Iran is a treacherous betrayal of the U.S. constitutional system


Bannon told The New Yorker in November 2017: "Next to Trump, he's the elected official who gets it the most—the economic nationalism. Cotton was the one most supportive of us, up front and behind the scenes, from the beginning. He understands that the Washington élite—this permanent political class of both parties ... needs to be shattered." hes 100% Trumps Mini me

Obama puts Marines on umbrella duty, irking conservatives

Guess who walked to the tomb of the unknown Solider with an army Dog carrying an umbrella

We tend to think very traditionally, believing that laws requiring a transition of power after a president loses an election mean that it’ll just automatically happen. But laws are limited, imperfect, and ignored by despots and their collaborators.

What question didn't I answer?
He didn't ask you if you thought Biden didn't win, he essentially asked if you were OK with Trump's narcissistic temper tantrum undermining confidence in our democratic process, politicizing the DOJ and DOJ, hampering our national security and undermining Biden's ability to fight Covid...with many prominent members of his own party just happily playing along.

Personally, I doubt very seriously that fraud changed the outcome. I don't believe that, I was expecting Trump to get creamed as soon as covid hit our shores. I personally don't think it made a big difference in this election.

However, they aren't "just Trumps claims" of fraud. There are people who signed affadavits (which are legal documents, look up the definition) that they saw irregularities take place. Why the heck wouldn't you want that looked into? jim because their BS hell you have the LT governor of texas offering 1 million dollars for Fraud evidence THAT'S what's interesting to me. Why are you so determined to sweep under the rug, every single person who says they have evidence of fraud? How can you know, that not one of those claims has merit? You've investigated them all? Or, do you always, automatically, conclude whatever helps your side, every single time, zero exceptions? Jim as always you assume to much you assume theses irregularities only occurred in 2020 did you see Democrats going to court with bogus affadavits or affadavits with stated reasons the assumed Fraud because the person who opened the envelope rolled their eyes LOL or who say people filling out ballots on a hood of a van? (hello Cell phone?)


You're right Wayne, we should all just accept the loss and move on, look forward to 4 years from now...just like your side did in 2016, right? Your side immediately accepted the results of that election, never said or did anything to try and undermine the will of the people. Nope, not once. Right? Right? How can you say this with a straight face?

again you need to look up fraud and influence and try to explain to us where this fraud happend in a organized fashion you expect us or me to prove it didnt happen thats not how claims of wrong doings work


Where the f*** do you people get off, lecturing ANYBODY about accepting defeat? How many riots have republicans started since the election? How many Walmarts have we burned to the ground? How many cops have we killed?

riots and cops killing unarmed citizens stay on topic they are not remotely the same issue..

What's good for the goose...


I doubt very seriously that fraud changed the outcome. I don't believe that

so since when Has this nation held up a national election on claims that wont change the outcome? and if caught they get charged and prosecuted..

Why does Bill barr memo not bother you or what pompeo said bother you or Trumps lies bother you or firing the Sec of defense bother you the list is endless

your clueless . reguardless of his past accomplishments Doesn't excuse him from the present.. Clearly you are influenced by shiny objects you ran to Amy defense in the same manner

I guess you think he is a hero for his letter to Iran clearly

Un-patriot games: GOP senators' letter to Iran is a treacherous betrayal of the U.S. constitutional system


Bannon told The New Yorker in November 2017: "Next to Trump, he's the elected official who gets it the most—the economic nationalism. Cotton was the one most supportive of us, up front and behind the scenes, from the beginning. He understands that the Washington élite—this permanent political class of both parties ... needs to be shattered." hes 100% Trumps Mini me

'you are influenced by shiny objects "

Tell me what Biden has done, that's more truly impressive?

Turning down riches to do a combat tour with the Army, is nothing more than "a shiny object" to you.

You are entitled to have such a low opinion of that act of selflessness. It's just disappointing, if not surprising.

Economic nationalism is bad? Making your first priority the economic well being of this country, is a bad thing for an elected politician to advocate for? We has elected by the citizens of Arkansas. Is he supposed to put their needs second, behind the needs of people in another country?

So you expect your pension to be 100% funded, which requires the taxpayers paying for a portion of it. But you are opposed to public policy which prioritizes economic growth and opportunity, for those same people who you demand fund your retirement?

You don't see anything humorous about that?

"You, John Taxpayer. I am gong to vote for a president who won't be primarily concerned with your economic well being, but I still insist that you pay for my pension and healthcare,"

Sounds fair. Let's renegotiate NAFTA to eliminate more American jobs, then you tell the newly unemployed that they still are on the hook for your financial security.

Why does Bill barr memo not bother you or what pompeo said bother you or Trumps lies bother you or firing the Sec of defense bother you the list is endless

That stuff bothers me. Unlike you, I can say that some things Trump does bother me, and other things he does, are awesome.

Liberals are so simpleminded, that only one thing can be true - Trump is bad. You can't consider the possibility that his personal moral compass is disgusting, but at the same time, he did some terrific things in terms of policy.

You can't do it None of you can do it. You can't even concede that I criticize him. Because it's all or nothing with you.

That is because the Orange Man is bad, bad to the bone.

And thinking that anything but himself matters to him should at some point become readily apparent, unless you are blind.

Remember when he said we "must have a final result on Nov. 3"?

End of Day 7: Trump is down nearly 5 million votes and he and his allies are 0-12 in court.

That stuff bothers me. Unlike you, I can say that some things Trump does bother me, and other things he does, are awesome.

Liberals are so simpleminded, that only one thing can be true - Trump is bad. You can't consider the possibility that his personal moral compass is disgusting, but at the same time, he did some terrific things in terms of policy.

You can't do it None of you can do it. You can't even concede that I criticize him. Because it's all or nothing with you.


Jim when Trumps negatives and your positives are a 90/10 split

The kind of praise you feel he deserves , will only happen at his funeral

And his current behavior isn’t helping that split. Or how history will remember him and those who follow him
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undermining Biden's ability to fight Covid...

.

:rotf3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21zUf-_6wbk

Or how history will remember him and those who follow him
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If history is going to be rough on his supporters, when will that commence? And how do you explain, then, why the election (other than the POTUS line)was such a disappointment for the democrats?

Have fun explaining that.

Richard Hopkins’s claim that a postmaster in Erie, Pa., instructed postal workers to backdate ballots mailed after Election Day was cited by Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) in a letter to the Justice Department calling for a federal investigation. Attorney General William P. Barr subsequently authorized federal prosecutors to open probes into credible allegations of voting irregularities and fraud before results are certified, a reversal of long-standing Justice Department policy.

But on Monday, Hopkins, 32, told investigators from the U.S. Postal Service’s Office of Inspector General that the allegations were not true, and he signed an affidavit recanting his claims, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe an ongoing investigation. Democrats on the House Oversight Committee tweeted late Tuesday that the “whistleblower completely RECANTED.”

Or this one...

At the city’s federal courthouse on Thursday evening, attorneys for Trump asked a judge to issue an emergency order to stop the count, alleging that all Republican observers had been barred.
Under sharp questioning from Judge Paul S. Diamond, however, they conceded that Trump in fact had “a nonzero number of people in the room,” leaving Diamond audibly exasperated.
“I’m sorry, then what’s your problem?” asked Diamond, who was appointed to the federal bench by President George W. Bush.

Or Rudy passing along a video showing someone ripping apart a Trump ballot which was fake.

The judges are laughing at these lawsuits.

Or this one...



Or Rudy passing along a video showing someone ripping apart a Trump ballot which was fake.

The judges are laughing at these lawsuits.

and trump deserves criticism for bringing unfounded suits. and he’ll get it.
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Tweety's base refuses to believe the Republican city commissioner in Philadelphia or the GOP Secretary of State in Georgia.

They aren't going to believe the decision of the courts or the results of recounts or audits either.

Stop pretending these are good faith positions.

Quote of the day, from Fauci: “When you have public figures like [former chief strategist Stephen K.] Bannon calling for your beheading, that’s really kind of unusual."

Quote of the day, from Fauci: “When you have public figures like [former chief strategist Stephen K.] Bannon calling for your beheading, that’s really kind of unusual."
Don't you think it's more than a little suspicious though that when Fauci learned of the encouraging Eli Lilly vaccine announcement he seemed a little "too" happy?

That stuff bothers me. Unlike you, I can say that some things Trump does bother me, and other things he does, are awesome.

Liberals are so simpleminded, that only one thing can be true - Trump is bad. You can't consider the possibility that his personal moral compass is disgusting, but at the same time, he did some terrific things in terms of policy.

You can't do it None of you can do it. You can't even concede that I criticize him. Because it's all or nothing with you.

So much of this speaks why I struggled so much with my vote. I totally agree that some of his policies (China) were right up my alley. But I could not get past the lying and his divisive effect on the country. So don't say I can't do it... Besides, I am not a liberal.

If you don’t support Tweety you are a...............
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If history is going to be rough on his supporters, when will that commence? And how do you explain, then, why the election (other than the POTUS line)was such a disappointment for the democrats?

Have fun explaining that.

Those in congress those media heads on fox ... and others talking heads not citizens I should have been clearer

Perhaps you should ask Trump why he attacks Americans who live in blue states 1st
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Those in congress those media heads on fox ... and others talking heads not citizens I should have been clearer

Perhaps you should ask Trump why he attacks Americans who live in blue states 1st
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here, i’ll answer your question...trump does that, because he’s a jerk.

is there ANY CHANCE, you could answer my question? why did the gop gain seats in the house, why have they not lost the senate, why did they gain state legislature counts?
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Just keep believing in Putin’s Puppet
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“I really think the worst for him is that all this just kind of goes on without him. He'll sulk out the door and my guess is Biden walks into an empty White House… What a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing clown show.” -GOP source close to the administration
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here, i’ll answer your question...trump does that, because he’s a jerk.

is there ANY CHANCE, you could answer my question? why did the gop gain seats in the house, why have they not lost the senate, why did they gain state legislature counts?
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Did you miss how many people voted. And Trump still lost so it’s clear many Republicans had a spine and either left out Trump or voted Biden because I guess Character was on the Ballot. And many still believe dems are socialist. It amazing what Republicans believe with out evidence s

And i think most elected Republicans are playing with fire standing with Trump and his Baseless fraud claims..

No matter how they spin the messages that they’re real concern the election integrity... 😂

What’s your take on the Texas Lt governor offering a 1 million dollar bounty for voter fraud?

I read the Lt Governor in Pennsylvania gave him a case it was against Republican..then asked where was his money
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White House tells federal agencies to proceed with plans for Trump’s February budget in latest sign of election defiance
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He didn't ask you if you thought Biden didn't win, he essentially asked if you were OK with Trump's narcissistic temper tantrum undermining confidence in our democratic process, politicizing the DOJ and DOJ, hampering our national security and undermining Biden's ability to fight Covid...with many prominent members of his own party just happily playing along.

And I answered that very clearly - no.

I think it's appropriate to look into credible claims of irregularity (dead people voting, the door left wide open for my wife to vote twice). Byt his rhetoric, as is often the case, is reckless, obnoxious, and way over the top.

Can I answer it any more directly, any more clearly?

"politicizing the DOJ'

Yet you have not a care, for the prior administration's willingness to politicize the DOJ, using a joke of a dossier to mislead the FISA court in order to spy on Carter Page.

Sorry, I know we're not supposed to even discuss any wrongdoing on the left.

Did you miss how many people voted. And Trump still lost so it’s clear many Republicans had a spine and either left out Trump or voted Biden because I guess Character was on the Ballot. And many still believe dems are socialist. It amazing what Republicans believe with out evidence s

And i think most elected Republicans are playing with fire standing with Trump and his Baseless fraud claims..

No matter how they spin the messages that they’re real concern the election integrity... 😂

What’s your take on the Texas Lt governor offering a 1 million dollar bounty for voter fraud?

I read the Lt Governor in Pennsylvania gave him a case it was against Republican..then asked where was his money
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Wayne, nowhere in there, did you even come close to answering my question.

You asked a question, I answered. I asked a question, and you dodged. Completely and obviously.

What does it say about the flimsiness of yoru beliefs, that you are unable to answer such a simple and obvious question?

"What’s your take on the Texas Lt governor offering a 1 million dollar bounty for voter fraud?"

Using public money? I don't like it. See? You asked, I gave a direct answer.

Yet you cannot find a way to answer my question. That's what "losing the argument" looks like.

Wayne, nowhere in there, did you even come close to answering my question.

You asked a question, I answered. I asked a question, and you dodged. Completely and obviously.

What does it say about the flimsiness of yoru beliefs, that you are unable to answer such a simple and obvious question?

"What’s your take on the Texas Lt governor offering a 1 million dollar bounty for voter fraud?"

Using public money? I don't like it. See? You asked, I gave a direct answer.

Yet you cannot find a way to answer my question. That's what "losing the argument" looks like.

I answered your question. I told you why they won those seats 72 million Republicans voted. And their belief of America is turning into a socialist nation it’s not rocket science ..

Public money? But private money is Fine ?

And Trump should be charged for promoting his attacks on our elections and if you think he is actually concerned , your a willing participant in his plan to ruin America and our institutions..

Look who he is firing and why and tell me that’s not an authoritarian leader

Tell me why COVID is raging across the nation and Trump is more concerned with attacking Fox News

No COVID bail out plan

Like I’ve said since he was elected it’s all about Him and his base who prefer lies over truth are retreating to their safe place echo chambers
OAN news max and Parlor
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I answered your question. I told you why they won those seats 72 million Republicans voted. And their belief of America is turning into a socialist nation it’s not rocket science ..

Public money? But private money is Fine ?

And Trump should be charged for promoting his attacks on our elections and if you think he is actually concerned , your a willing participant in his plan to ruin America and our institutions..

Look who he is firing and why and tell me that’s not an authoritarian leader

Tell me why COVID is raging across the nation and Trump is more concerned with attacking Fox News

No COVID bail out plan

Like I’ve said since he was elected it’s all about Him and his base who prefer lies over truth are retreating to their safe place echo chambers
OAN news max and Parlor
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why should i care if someone puts up his own money as a reward for blowing the whistle on voter fraud? why would that bother you?

covid is raving because it’s highly contagious and we have no vaccine, and we’re a free country. again, you might want to look at which states have the highest death rates, and which governor had the brilliant idea of deliberately putting the virus in. rising homes. of all
places, rising homes.
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I

Like I’ve said since he was elected it’s all about Him and his base who prefer lies over truth are retreating to their safe place echo chambers
OAN news max and Parlor
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you’re upset there’s no covid relief. lemme guess, you assign zero blame for that, to the house?

as to it all being about trump, why did he increase funding for black colleges, and advocate for school
choice, and champion criminal
justice reform? tell
is how those things benefit him?

with his tax cuts, he doubled the standard deduction and expanded child tax credits. obviously those things don’t impact him.
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echo chambers
OAN news max and Parlor

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wayne has new words :kewl:

wayne has new words :kewl:

And you have a new bubble to explore
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why should i care if someone puts up his own money as a reward for blowing the whistle on voter fraud? why would that bother you?

covid is raving because it’s highly contagious and we have no vaccine, and we’re a free country. again, you might want to look at which states have the highest death rates, and which governor had the brilliant idea of deliberately putting the virus in. rising homes. of all
places, rising homes.
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Buying evidence its ok in your world

And COVID raging because it’s highly contagious. No #^&#^&#^&#^& the POTUS telling people we were rounding the corner had no impact

And Trumps not doing anything and your excuse were a free country commenting on COVID .. just another example your a typical Trump supporter until it affects you
You could give 2 #^&#^&#^&#^&s about other Americans But I know black unemployment low. Praise Trump
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There is "no evidence" the Nov. 3 election was compromised, committees within the Department of Homeland Security that worked on protecting U.S. voting systems affirmed Thursday. In a statement, they also called the 2020 election the "most secure in American history."

Damn deep state

Chris Krebs is in the White House's crosshairs in part because of a website he created to debunk election-related misinformation.

Trumps not an authoritarian 👌

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And you have a new bubble to explore
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I haven't been to those places I'm sure you will keep us up to date on what is going on there :rotf2:

Another state called and still crickets, instead working of putting loyalists in key positions at the Pentagon putting our national security at risk.

The Malignant Narcissist has withdrawn into his bunker

Yesterday, 6 American service members were killed in a helicopter crash during a peacekeeping mission in Egypt. Tropical Storm Eta made landfall in Florida. The number of Americans infected with COVID continued at a record-setting pace.

Trump remained silent.
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Narcissist


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hey...speaking of narcissists....obama was apparently on 60 minutes whining that trump is trying to de-legitimize the incoming administration...that is hilarious coming from him...the 60 minute sycophants of course, didn't ask him any tough questions....just nodded in agreement

When all else fails, it’s time for
BUT..........

I’d suggest a suicide watch on Tweety and not jokingly.........

He’s locked himself in the bunker
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Trump’s old election conspiracy theory centered on mail balloting, which he deemed rife with fraud, unless it was being done by Republicans. His new theory is that the election was stolen because a left-wing software firm connected to Hugo Chavez and George Soros maliciously stole hundreds of thousands of votes in the middle of the night. Trump has been spreading the claim on Twitter the last several days:


Wow what’s next? Aliens... Nothing rallies the base like Using George Soros in a sentence Hugo’s new

The only People committing Fraud are Trump and the Republicans and their enablers in Congress , watch fox it’s like a job interview from Trumps new network Jesse Watters, Greg Gutfeld. Show up with wearing need pads stroking Trumps ego with ever word..

Now he wants to bring Troops home just to leave Biden a #^&#^&#^&#^& sandwich still may do something to Iran .

American 1st ya ok


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Poll: 70% of Republicans Say 2020 Election Was Neither Free, Nor Fair


All with out evidence yet they want this. “Seize those ballots and bring them back to the White House for auditing. PA, MI, WI, GA and NC.” But not the states they won And they have the nerve to call themselves Patriots
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There is no bottom:

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said Monday that he has come under increasing pressure in recent days from fellow Republicans, including Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, to question the validity of legally cast absentee ballots in an effort to reverse President Donald Trump's narrow loss in the state.

Get your popcorn out, Rudy Giuliani filed an application to formally appear in the Trump campaign's federal case in Pennsylvania; there's a hearing set for 1:30 pm today :lurk:

The last time Rudy Giuliani entered an appearance in federal court was 1992

Tweety's previous lawyers emphasized to judges that they are not forwarding the Trump & Co fraud arguments in court, where evidence and facts are required.

Just a month ago, Tweety said, "Joe Biden is shot. He's barely there."

Today he and Rudy insist Biden headed up the most massive election fraud scheme in American history without leavin' a shred of evidence.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/7329052/11-17-20-Giuliani-Pro-Hac-Application.pdf

Rudy has to do it most of their attorneys have quit.
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Rudy has to do it most of their attorneys have quit.
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he has fallen a loooong way since 2001.
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he has fallen a loooong way since 2001.
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From Post 9/11 NYC to the 'Four Seasons'... You ain't kidding.

He needed to wander off into the sunset after his last presidential campaign. I wonder if DJT has dirt on him or if he has slipped this much....

Everyone keeps characterizing this as Tweety's choice, but it's more likely he's run out of alternatives.

This case has had three different sets of lawyers since last week.

Who in their right mind would risk their entire career and future for this con man?

Only Giuliani, because he's already set fire to his reputation.

If he treats it like a Fox interview, and he probably will, it's going to be bonkers.

The judge will not let Rudy yell or scream. The judge will also not allow broad generalizations, hearsay, guesses. Rudy will be in over his head.

:cheers2:

So imagine going to a hearing in an emergency election case before a district court judge and seeking to change lawyers and get a delay 15 hours before an emergency hearing and then adding a lawyer who misrepresents that he's a bar member in good standing. The judge will be pissed.
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From Post 9/11 NYC to the 'Four Seasons'... You ain't kidding.

He needed to wander off into the sunset after his last presidential campaign. I wonder if DJT has dirt on him or if he has slipped this much....

Probably trying to stay relevant. No dignity to what he has been reduced to.

when Hilary told Biden before the election, to never concede under any circumstances, to never stop legal challenges if he lost....where was the outrage from the liberals? just wondering.
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when Hilary told Biden before the election, to never concede under any circumstances, to never stop legal challenges if he lost....where was the outrage from the liberals? just wondering.
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That's not what she said Jim.

That's not what she said Jim.

“Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances”.

she didn’t carve out an exception for losing fair and square.

“under any circumstances” is pretty clear, is it not?

do you people EVER tire of claiming to have the right to do that which you deny to people who vote differently than you do?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1238156
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“Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances”.

she didn’t carve out an exception for losing fair and square.

“under any circumstances” is pretty clear, is it not?

do you people EVER tire of claiming to have the right to do that which you deny to people who vote differently than you do?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1238156
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Gee wiz do you think maybe it had to do with no early concession knowing that all the mail in ballots and absentee ballets would likely eliminate any Trump lead.

Gee wiz do you think maybe it had to do with no early concession knowing that all the mail in ballots and absentee ballets would likely eliminate any Trump lead.

she said not to concede under any circumstances. that’s very different, than saying don’t concede until the early and mail in ballots are cast.

too fast for you?

No early concession, and no concession under any circumstances, mean the same thing to you, eh?
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“Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances”.

she didn’t carve out an exception for losing fair and square.

“under any circumstances” is pretty clear, is it not?

do you people EVER tire of claiming to have the right to do that which you deny to people who vote differently than you do?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1238156
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She said Trump would try and screw up absentee voting so if the election was close to not concede on election day, but to let it play out.

She didn't suggest he should never concede. Your quote is lacking context.

She said Trump would try and screw up absentee voting so if the election was close to not concede on election day, but to let it play out.

She didn't suggest he should never concede. Your quote is lacking context.

except she didn’t say “don’t concede if there’s any evidence trump
is up to no good.”.

i guess your issue is that you don’t know what “under any circumstances” means. if gutter so inclined, you can look it up, or have a toddler explain it to you.
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Jim does it really matter what Hillary said or implied, do you contest the election results and if not, why is this current administration putting the health and security of blue and red Americans at risk by not allowing the Biden administration access? If you do feel the election results aren’t true, then adjust your foil hat and go look again at the margins of victory and maybe some clarity will come.

Jim does it really matter what Hillary said or implied, do you contest the election results and if not, why is this current administration putting the health and security of blue and red Americans at risk by not allowing the Biden administration access? If you do feel the election results aren’t true, then adjust your foil hat and go look again at the margins of victory and maybe some clarity will come.

so first you claim she said something harmless. when faced with what she actually said, is guy say it doesnt matter.

If it’s wrong for teump
to not concede, why isn’t it equally wrong for hilary to say before the election ( so obviously literally zero evidence of fraud yet) that biden should never concede. the media gave her a free pass. but trump, as usual, can’t be given the same courtesy.

i have said ten times, i have zero basis to believe that biden won because of fraud. but i don’t know what trump may have access to. IF he has a legitimate gripe ( huge “if”) he’s entitled to pursue it. if he doesn’t have. legitimate gripe he should shut up and concede.

please point to one syllable in my response that anyone would say is a tin foil hat conspiracy theory.
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There is no bottom:

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said Monday that he has come under increasing pressure in recent days from fellow Republicans, including Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, to question the validity of legally cast absentee ballots in an effort to reverse President Donald Trump's narrow loss in the state.

flatly denied by Graham.
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Isn’t Graham the same guy who said:
Trump will destroy the Republican Party
Save the tape, if this.....

Why would anyone with a half a brain believe anything
Lindsey says
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flatly denied by Graham.
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A staffer for Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensberger said Tuesday that he participated in a controversial phone call with Sen. Lindsey Graham and said he heard Graham ask if state officials could throw out ballots.

The comments from the staffer, election implementation manager Gabriel Sterling, corroborate Raffensberger’s recent claims about the phone call with Graham, who is one of President Donald Trump’s most outspoken allies.
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so first you claim she said something harmless. when faced with what she actually said, is guy say it doesnt matter.

If it’s wrong for teump
to not concede, why isn’t it equally wrong for hilary to say before the election ( so obviously literally zero evidence of fraud yet) that biden should never concede. the media gave her a free pass. but trump, as usual, can’t be given the same courtesy.

i have said ten times, i have zero basis to believe that biden won because of fraud. but i don’t know what trump may have access to. IF he has a legitimate gripe ( huge “if”) he’s entitled to pursue it. if he doesn’t have. legitimate gripe he should shut up and concede.

please point to one syllable in my response that anyone would say is a tin foil hat conspiracy theory.
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Biggest dodge Jim, what the F does Hilary have to do with Trump stalling and potentially loosing needless American lives due to COVID or some other domestic or international threat the incoming administration should be read in on. Your stuck I get it but Trump and and that two faced flipper Lindsey are the opposite of Patriots.

Trump fires election security official who contradicted him

President Trump said he "terminated" Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (Cisa) chief Chris Krebs for his "highly inaccurate" remarks on vote integrity.

What Trump ment was he told the Truth, and didn’t bend the knee so Trump fired him

Authoritarian all the way
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Biggest dodge Jim, what the F does Hilary have to do with Trump stalling and potentially loosing needless American lives due to COVID or some other domestic or international threat the incoming administration should be read in on. Your stuck I get it but Trump and and that two faced flipper Lindsey are the opposite of Patriots.

what was my dodge exactly?

trump should allow a transition on covid for sure.

yeah i’m stuck. says one of the liberals, none of whom can ever criticize their side or compliment the other side.
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Biggest dodge Jim, what the F does Hilary have to do with Trump stalling and potentially loosing needless American lives due to COVID or some other domestic or international threat the incoming administration should be read in on. Your stuck I get it but Trump and and that two faced flipper Lindsey are the opposite of Patriots.

graham spent his whole career trying to make democrats like him. then he Kavanaugh which trials. your side
made Graham convert from being a moderate democrat i to a conservative pit bull. if you don’t like it, take it up with diane feinstein and the democrats on the judiciary committee.
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Another poor victim just like Tweety who’s a snowflake who cares only about his feelings not the facts.

He’s a pampered millennial child who can’t handle losing and wants a participation trophy.

He’s a coddled, out-of-touch elite who cares more about what his media friends say about him than the struggles of forgotten Americans.

He’s a fool who leads a selfish ruling class that is bringing America to the brink of revolution.

He is an Ivy Leaguer who requires a safe space to protect himself from painful speech.

He believes in a hierarchy of victimhood with himself at the top and his aggrieved white supporters next.

He’s a wokescold who wants to silence those who reject his magical thinking.

A wanna-be monarch having a “temper tantrum.”

He’s callow and acting in bad faith.

Those who are not standing up to him have “no conception of the national interest larger than his immediate political interests.”

He is a censorious enemy of free speech and freedom of religion.

He is trying to bring about an “End Of Discussion” by leading an “outrage industry that shuts down debate and manipulates voters.”

He is “Triggered”, “driven by hate, and trying to silence the voters.”

He is stealing America.

He’s a whiner who specializes in phony outrage. A beta-soy-boy cuck who won’t take his setbacks like a grown man.

He wants to infuse political culture wars into every crevice of American life, bullying those who don’t accept his hegemony.

He sees democracy as a filthy process that can be cured only by centralized power.

He’s unvirtuous, ignorant, anti-American, and anti-Christian.

He’s a loser who is up to his eyeballs in bull#^&#^&#^&#^&.

He is everything that they ever said their “evil” opponents were. And worse.

But you don’t care.

Because you get to “own the libs”

Even in the face of Trump’s humiliating defeat at the hands of an opponent you claim to be weak and suffering from dementia, Trumplicans and conservative commentators continue to enable the human embodiment of what they once decried.

You do it because their crusade stopped being about anything other than causing their opponents pain a long time ago. You came to the crossroads and struck a deal to make a human troll the president of the United States, because he put Obama in his (birth) place and made all the right people mad. He was your vehicle to give the finger to half of the country.

Your end of that deal paid off in spades the past four years. And as he petulantly refuses to concede defeat they continue to get the liberal schadenfreude they crave.

The only thing you had to do in order to get it, was become everything that you claimed to hate.

You should never be allowed to forget it.
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Now Trump wants a re count in Wisconsin get this the only in 2 county's are Democrat


The petition, signed by Trump and Vice President Mike Pence on Monday, alleges "mistakes and fraud" were committed all over Wisconsin but particularly in Madison and Milwaukee, cities with large numbers of voters for Biden. The petition does not provide specific examples of mistakes or fraud.

so seeing they both signed this document can they be charged with filing fraudulent request with out cause or evidence

It is bizarre world for sure, not sure if he is just wearing his foil hat to tight, or his upbringing never taught him loosing with dignity is important in life.
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Has anyone got an up to date scoreboard of how the White House has done in their legal suits??????????? Just curious.




Effing lemmings.

Has anyone got an up to date scoreboard of how the White House has done in their legal suits??????????? Just curious.




Effing lemmings.
Pretty sure they are loosing most if not all and lawyers are jumping the sinking ship. Trump and his minions are true patriots putting Americans health and our National security at risk by shutting out the Biden team.
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Has anyone got an up to date scoreboard of how the White House has done in their legal suits??????????? Just curious.




Effing lemmings.
I think they've won one that's inconsequential and lost the rest. The PA case Rudy made a fool of himself at is moving forward but I think the judge is just trying to play ball. The case has little merit and no evidence. To Gots point, right now respectable attorneys are jumping ship so they don't get censured for frivolous lawsuits. That's why it's up to Team Rudy to carry the torch.

Trump campaign DISMISSES its last remaining Michigan federal court lawsuit.

Trump and his allies are 1-29 in post-election litigation in court.

https://www.democracydocket.com/cases/michigan-wayne-county-results-challenge/

I think they've won one that's inconsequential and lost the rest. The PA case Rudy made a fool of himself at is moving forward but I think the judge is just trying to play ball. The case has little merit and no evidence. To Gots point, right now respectable attorneys are jumping ship so they don't get censured for frivolous lawsuits. That's why it's up to Team Rudy to carry the torch.

they’re getting laughed out of court.
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did anyone see Rudys press conference with his Hair dye running down his face and the leopard outfit on the other lawyer.. they are what you think when you hear the term ambulance chaser ...

did anyone see Rudys press conference with his Hair dye running down his face and the leopard outfit on the other lawyer.. they are what you think when you hear the term ambulance chaser ...

have you ever, even once, said something complimentary about a republican, or critical about a democrat?

Rudy is slipping, obviously. you’re all over that. but you’ll deny that biden is slipping.
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have you ever, even once, said something complimentary about a republican, or critical about a democrat?

Rudy is slipping, obviously. you’re all over that. but you’ll deny that biden is slipping.
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again your skill at seeing things as equal is stunning .. Trust me Rudys appearance was nothing compared his outlandish claims ...

Republican need to do something worthy of a compliment , :kewl:

yet those who have been complemented by the left and others due to the manner in which they've handled the election in their states .. Have been attacked by Trump Rudy and other republican house and senate members...

They are clowns. But they’re clowns who’ve sprinkled some gasoline around and are now trying to light matches. And they’re doing this at the direction of the president, who still does control the executive branch of the U.S. government.

We should all be alarmed.

have you ever, even once, said something complimentary about a republican, or critical about a democrat?

Rudy is slipping, obviously. you’re all over that. but you’ll deny that biden is slipping.
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Rudy is slipping alright $20k a day into his pocket. I wonder what Dump is slipping into his pocket. Please send your extra cash to help support his frivolous law suits.
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did anyone see Rudys press conference with his Hair dye running down his face and the leopard outfit on the other lawyer.. they are what you think when you hear the term ambulance chaser ...

I didn't realize that was hair dye. I thought that was BS coming out of his ears.
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To switch it up a bit Mike Pompeo became the first US secretary of state to visit a Jewish settlement

Can anyone say Pompeo. For President 2024 He’s trying hard
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Over at Breitbart their response to Rudy’s press conference. This was an historic hour. 19 Nov. 2020 will be remembered in the history books as the biggest constitutional crisis since the Civil War.

Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country.
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Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country.
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Except for the boot licking minions who just can’t stomach loosing the power. It was bad enough the old white guard had to live through eight years of a black man in the Oval Office, they are fighting the crazy legal battles, as they can’t even consider a black women running for that office in 2024.

So when does everyone think we will "win" some more and hit 200,000 cases a day?

Anyone else getting tired of all this winning?

Yes. I am tired of the winning
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Only the Best

The affidavit Sidney Powell and others are hyping when they say many precincts in Michigan have more votes than actual voters is .... based on data from Minnesota.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/do-trumps-lawyers-know-what-they-are-doing.php

Only the Best

The affidavit Sidney Powell and others are hyping when they say many precincts in Michigan have more votes than actual voters is .... based on data from Minnesota.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/do-trumps-lawyers-know-what-they-are-doing.php
It's not surprising that Trump is literally and criminally trying to break our democracy but so many here are silent because at least it's not a nudge toward "socialism." :doh:

Yep thats the only ism they have ever seen in the past 75 years
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Only the Best

The affidavit Sidney Powell and others are hyping when they say many precincts in Michigan have more votes than actual voters is .... based on data from Minnesota.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/do-trumps-lawyers-know-what-they-are-doing.php

I assume this is a shock to no one.

I think, when you accept that Trump doesn't have a easy path to running a cable network or getting nominated in 2024, but instead faces a serious risk of personal bankruptcy or conviction for tax evasion or bank fraud if he loses his office, you will realize how dangerous he is right now.

I think, when you accept that Trump doesn't have a easy path to running a cable network or getting nominated in 2024, but instead faces a serious risk of personal bankruptcy or conviction for tax evasion or bank fraud if he loses his office, you will realize how dangerous he is right now.
His kids (sans Baron) have as good a chance as going to jail as he does. I doubt they go after the father but with an independent DOJ again you never know.

His kids (sans Baron) have as good a chance as going to jail as he does. I doubt they go after the father but with an independent DOJ again you never know.

Biden won't push that issue if he is serious about trying to mend the fences broken.

State AOG's might have a different thought (i.e. NY Southern)

Biden won't push that issue if he is serious about trying to mend the fences broken.

State AOG's might have a different thought (i.e. NY Southern)
That's pretty much what I said. I don't see a big effort to sink Trump but if they have solid evidence of crimes implicating Ivanka or Jr I don't think they could ethically not go after them.

What a statement Trump is making to the world, what an example he is making for our youth, what a pitiful example of a human being. If they ever need a visual for the definition of a sore loser, a sore sportsman, a big baby; well orange head is the perfect example. Then there is Rudy OMG, it’s almost sad to see him go off the rails and into some alternate reality. America first my arse, any of you supporters buying into this crap, still think he is concerned about you?

My favorite lede

‘The Ballots Might Have Been From Mickey Mouse,’ the President’s Lawyer Said. Likewise, His Legal Strategy.
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This is why, thankfully, Tweety’s strategy will fail

Arizona's Maricopa County Board of Supervisors has more Republicans defending our democracy's peaceful transfer of power than they currently have counterparts in the United States Senate.
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Coronavirus: Five signs that show how bad El Paso's outbreak is

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54966876


South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem cashes in on COVID-19 response, national profile

https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/20/south-dakota-gov-kristi-noem-cashes-covid-19-response/5993962002/


these states are on fire and Republicans dont care it :bs:

Wisconsin officials: Trump observers obstructing recount

Shocking most of the areas where Trump request re counts happen to minority communities? Why would that be?
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I don't like the guy. Especially since he is a cowboy fan from NJ, but he deserves credit where due.

"I have been a supporter of the President's. I voted for him twice, but elections have consequences, and we cannot continue to act as if something happened here that didn't happen."
"If you are unwilling to come forward and present the evidence, it must mean the evidence doesn't exist," he went on. "The country is what has to matter the most. As much as I'm a strong Republican and I love my party, it's the country that has to come first" - Chris Christie
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I don't like the guy. Especially since he is a cowboy fan from NJ, but he deserves credit where due.

"I have been a supporter of the President's. I voted for him twice, but elections have consequences, and we cannot continue to act as if something happened here that didn't happen."
"If you are unwilling to come forward and present the evidence, it must mean the evidence doesn't exist," he went on. "The country is what has to matter the most. As much as I'm a strong Republican and I love my party, it's the country that has to come first" - Chris Christie
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The faithful just cast people like him aside calling him a Rino

Or here’s another example Christie is just saying what ABC wants to hear. They don't pay him for honesty, they pay him to be a faux Republican.

Christie has sold his soul for a paycheck.

Stop the Steal!

What’s the saying you can’t argue with idiots
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Wisconsin officials: Trump observers obstructing recount

Shocking most of the areas where Trump request re counts happen to minority communities? Why would that be?
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oh tell us al sharpton :biglaugh:

I don't like the guy. Especially since he is a cowboy fan from NJ, but he deserves credit where due.

"I have been a supporter of the President's. I voted for him twice, but elections have consequences, and we cannot continue to act as if something happened here that didn't happen."
"If you are unwilling to come forward and present the evidence, it must mean the evidence doesn't exist," he went on. "The country is what has to matter the most. As much as I'm a strong Republican and I love my party, it's the country that has to come first" - Chris Christie
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someone should explain to christie, zimmie and wayne how the legal system works

That's pretty much what I said. I don't see a big effort to sink Trump but if they have solid evidence of crimes implicating Ivanka or Jr I don't think they could ethically not go after them.

yup...Ivanka is definitely a criminal.....she should be more like hunter:biglaugh:

someone should explain to christie, zimmie and wayne how the legal system works
I’d suggest you team up with Powell, Giuliani and the Stable Genius to do that
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yup...Ivanka is definitely a criminal.....she should be more like hunter:biglaugh:

New York state has expanded its criminal fraud investigation into Donald Trump to payments that he made to his daughter Ivanka.

Some of those fees appear to have been paid to Ms. Trump. On a 2017 disclosure she filed when joining the White House as a presidential adviser, she reported receiving payments from a consulting company she co-owned, totaling $747,622, that exactly matched consulting fees claimed as tax deductions by the Trump Organization for hotel projects in Hawaii and Vancouver, British Columbia.
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New York state has expanded its criminal fraud investigation into Donald Trump to payments that he made to his daughter Ivanka.

Some of those fees appear to have been paid to Ms. Trump. On a 2017 disclosure she filed when joining the White House as a presidential adviser, she reported receiving payments from a consulting company she co-owned, totaling $747,622, that exactly matched consulting fees claimed as tax deductions by the Trump Organization for hotel projects in Hawaii and Vancouver, British Columbia.
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oh good...pete has another bombshell...surely this will land a trump in jail:rotf3:

...hey do you think joe will make hunter drug czar? it would finally be a job that he's got some previous experience in:hee:

oh good...pete has another bombshell...surely this will land a trump in jail:rotf3:

...hey do you think joe will make hunter drug czar? it would finally be a job that he's got some previous experience in:hee:

Oddly enough, Biden has no family members in his administration.
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someone should explain to christie, zimmie and wayne how the legal system works

Scott I’ll do you legal research for you...

burden of proof

the obligation to prove one's assertion.

The Nation is still waiting


Here is some news Trump Legal Team Distances from Sidney Powell

noting that she did not represent the president, either as part of the team or in his personal capacity.

A tweet from President Trump earlier this month explicitly named her as part of the team, referring to her as one of his "wonderful lawyers and representatives" . :thanks:

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The new republican conspiracy. Liberals are moving to GA just to vote in the senate Race

Anyone see these carvans of voters ..

And what the mathematical numbers require to achieve this 2nd coup
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he wasn't kidding....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA8a2g6tTp0

Behind the scenes, Trump is frustrated with his legal team's maneuvers.

"The president is concerned his team is comprised of 'fools that are making him look bad,' said one source familiar with the thinking."

Don't worry the Stable Genius has reinforcements flying in.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zxR9F2fs-I

he wasn't kidding....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA8a2g6tTp0

A classic Trumper.. posting fake clips to support untrue suggestion of fraud

By supporting a President who attacking our elections.
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When Rudy is your lead counsel you are going down like the Hindenburg
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1 in 37 court cases, is that what winning looks like?

Well, after the Deathstar failed they unleashed the Kraken that turned out to be a Krakpot.
Think of how fortunate we are that this assault on the Constitution and our democratic system is now resting pretty much in the hands of three grifting nincompoops, instead of the capable authoritarians the GOP will produce the next time.
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Whelp, if this election was any sign of GOP spunk, nice job guys!

You know what they say about number 2.
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The real irony is Trump fighting so hard to keep a job he really never wanted and clearly didn’t like to do. Trump xmas tradition might change this year, instead of opening one present Xmas eve, it will just be family pardons all around.

An Administration that tries to steal votes, preemptively pardon friends and relatives, and pour federal money into their own businesses isn’t an Administration. It’s a crime syndicate.
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Cruz urges Supreme Court to take up Pennsylvania election challenge

Fishing for Trumps VP in 2024
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https://www.npr.org/2020/12/05/943220215/backing-trump-some-ex-military-officers-spread-conspiracies-urge-martial-law


The White House on Monday nominated O'Grady to be assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs at the Pentagon.

But in a review of his public statements, CNN found that O'Grady called former President Barack Obama and some military generals "sworn socialists" in a radio interview. On Twitter, he endorsed a tweet that called former Defense Secretary James Mattis a "traitor." He's backed multiple conspiracy theories, retweeting the baseless claim that Hillary Clinton and George Soros somehow helped facilitate foreign interference in last month's election.

On December 2, he retweeted an account that shared an article that said former national security adviser Michael Flynn had shared a petition that called for martial law. He then retweeted the same account which suggested that Trump should declare martial law.
"I don't know who needs to hear this," the account said, "But calling for martial law is not a bad idea when there is an attempted coup against the president and this country happening right now."


and republicans are worried Biden has MH issues or about Socialism
you got to be kidding

AG, homeland and republicans in states with supposed widespread fraud all say there is no evidence and sadly only 25 Republicans with a spine have agreed. The silence on the right in Washington and this board is amazing, to condone what is being attempted, means your right as a citizen for your vote to count is meaningless. Every past President has helped with the peaceful transition of power, knowing the security of our nation depends on it. It’s not happening now, because this ahole has NEVER even attempted to act presidential and it’s always been about the Trump brand and family money.

Rudy’s and Trump moving the goal post again seeing they are getting smoked in court they’re going for the Hail Mary which I think was the plan from the start,, such Patriots




I saw what the courts were doing and I wanted to go around them so the facts could get out," Giuliani told Sean Hannity on Friday night. "The simple fact is, we don't need courts. The United States Constitution gives sole power to the state legislature to decide presidential elections."


the conservative Wisconsin Voters Alliance: invalidating the entire presidential election in Wisconsin, and installing new electors chosen by the legislature.

Wow just to suggest such a thing is seen as Patriotic by Trump and his supporters but but be afraid

From Trump rally Trump states Very simply, you will decide whether your children will grow up in a socialist country or whether they will grow up in a free country."


99% of his base have no idea what what socialism is , they do actually anyone who doesn’t wear camouflage all year long is a socialist
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Rudy’s and Trump moving the goal post again seeing they are getting smoked in court they’re going for the Hail Mary which I think was the plan from the start,, such Patriots




I saw what the courts were doing and I wanted to go around them so the facts could get out," Giuliani told Sean Hannity on Friday night. "The simple fact is, we don't need courts. The United States Constitution gives sole power to the state legislature to decide presidential elections."


the conservative Wisconsin Voters Alliance: invalidating the entire presidential election in Wisconsin, and installing new electors chosen by the legislature.

Wow just to suggest such a thing is seen as Patriotic by Trump and his supporters but but be afraid

From Trump rally Trump states Very simply, you will decide whether your children will grow up in a socialist country or whether they will grow up in a free country."


99% of his base have no idea what what socialism is , they do actually anyone who doesn’t wear camouflage all year long is a socialist
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was always a hail mary for the supreme court. i doubt they’ll hear the case, if they do, i bet he loses by a big margin.
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although it would be glorious to see clarence thomas get his revenge against joe biden for what biden did to him.
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Ahh, another poor victim that the right needs revenge for
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Ahh, another poor victim that the right needs revenge for
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doesn’t need revenge, i said it would be sweet.

yeah, i know, silly to get worked up over fabricated charges that a black man can’t be trusted around women. that’s not playing the race card, and dealing from the bottom of the deck.
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You can thank Newt and the Tea party for pushing the former Republican Party so far to the right that you would not be a viable candidate
But that’s alright because you know we gotta own the libs
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Saw a Trump parade just past the former Tappan Zee bridge in NY last night. There were banners with "Biden Sucks" and "Biden is an Ashole" Classy people those Trumpsters.

Can't all be as classy as the Dems

https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/pussy-roar.jpg

https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/YWoVoREQABURQUDCYCkoRLlGGTo=/415x276/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/ZWPS2ELAV6RTJA5UOBLDG7MHJM.jpg

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Can't all be as classy as the Dems

https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/pussy-roar.jpg

https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/YWoVoREQABURQUDCYCkoRLlGGTo=/415x276/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/ZWPS2ELAV6RTJA5UOBLDG7MHJM.jpg

https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F6%2F2017%2F05%2Fkathy-griffin-trump-2000.jpg


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Thanks for the usual thoughtful post
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I saw this and it explains Many Conservatives and Republicans world view . Roughly half of the country does not understand that they are in the Matrix and that they are actually weakening our democracy as they foolishly believe they are defending it.

Because Trump and the Republican Party Aka the Matrix tell their Batteries what they want to hear and Facts and Truth need not apply
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Thanks for the usual thoughtful post
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well we can't all spew out these nuggets of wisdom and sharp insight here like you do :rolleyes:

Just pointing out the glaring Hypocrisy, you know, what you're always bitching about here.

Saw a Trump parade just past the former Tappan Zee bridge in NY last night. There were banners with "Biden Sucks" and "Biden is an Ashole" Classy people those Trumpsters.

well we can't all spew out these nuggets of wisdom and sharp insight here like you do :rolleyes:

Just pointing out the glaring Hypocrisy, you know, what you're always bitching about here.

What hypocrisy? You lurk constantly but hardly ever post anything pertaining to the subject, instead only point out tiny meaningless mistakes (like the wrong month) or post some sarcastic replies.

The Repub. party has become the party of hypocrisy and if anyone wanted to bitch about it they could do spend all day, every day talking about it.

What hypocrisy? You lurk constantly but hardly ever post anything pertaining to the subject, instead only point out tiny meaningless mistakes (like the wrong month) or post some sarcastic replies.


I lurk constantly because you (Karen) alway want to call out to the admins (speak to the manager)

You pointed out how classless the “Trumpsters” are, and I pointed out just how classless the other side is as well, hence the hypocrisy reference.

You just fail too see it
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👖
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Texas Sues Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin at Supreme Court over Election Rules

So far only on 1site Breitbart ?..
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So the Texas AG who’s suing is being investigated by the FBI after his entire senior staff accused him of a number of felonies. He is also currently indicted for securities fraud.
Wonder if he’s angling for a pardon?
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So the Texas AG who’s suing is being investigated by the FBI after his entire senior staff accused him of a number of felonies. He is also currently indicted for securities fraud.
Wonder if he’s angling for a pardon?
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Was thinking the same thing..

Yet I am still amazed all the of the Conservatives who champion the Constitution and insist progressives are out to destroy it,,,

are notably silence on Current events and the Actions of a sitting POTUS attacks on our system or plainly attacking the foundations of our Democracy

I guess their still stuck in the Matrix
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SeaDangles - did you pay your $100? We need the confirmation.

I lurk constantly because you (Karen) your infatuation is a little scary but you do it with others also. alway want to call out to the admins (speak to the manager)Are there actual Admin. here? What exactly do you do?:p

You pointed out how classless the “Trumpsters” are, and I pointed out just how classless the other side is as well, hence the hypocrisy reference.so you showed what 4 people while there were 100s with the most classless signs on the highway.

You just fail too see it
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I see your hypocrisy.

SeaDangles - did you pay your $100? We need the confirmation.

Supreme Court says no way we are participating in this BS, it’s all over someone inform SD and RR to get their check books out or was it all talk.

I lurk constantly because you (Karen) alway want to call out to the admins (speak to the manager)

You pointed out how classless the “Trumpsters” are, and I pointed out just how classless the other side is as well, hence the hypocrisy reference.

You just fail too see it
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I see the cause for him being a whining p*ssy is not my responsibility after all.🤣

Seems odd that a new story about a major development in a case concerning the biggest alleged election fraud in American history is not anywhere close to a top headline in Breitbart.

It’s almost as if Breitbart recognizes what a complete embarrassment the Presidents efforts have become, and is trying not to draw attention to it.

Not so loud and proud
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I see the cause for him being a whining p*ssy is not my responsibility after all.🤣

if you can't pay the $100 because you're afraid to ask your wife for some money just tell us and we'll let you slide.
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if you can't pay the $100 because you're afraid to ask your wife for some money just tell us and we'll let you slide.
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He has to ask to use the card.
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if you can't pay the $100 because you're afraid to ask your wife for some money just tell us and we'll let you slide.
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Oh snap !!
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If Biden becomes president then your charity will get $100 donation.
No questions asked.

if you can't pay the $100 because you're afraid to ask your wife for some money just tell us and we'll let you slide.
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As per your request, NAMBLA will be getting a donation in your name.

The bet was that JohnR would get the $. If you want to send anyone else $ in my name, feel free. I do like the Conn. food bank.

Ann Coulter: Voter Fraud Never Happens! (Except in These 10,000 Cases) And the Trump cult go crazy

These asshoIe voter fraud Democrats need to be in prison at the very least....the good leaders like Trump need to hear us scream that from the rooftops!!! Or It will be local. You need 10-15 like minded people you can trust to be the resistance. It won't be like the first Civil War. It will be Guerilla Warfare. And We need leadership to help organize those of us who are ready to stand up for truth and the laws of our great Republic.
These bastards are well organized and are shutting us down at every turn. We sure could use a modern day Patrick Henry.

This site is full of these comment , we have other who post similar far fetched you tube stuff as example of Truth and actual evidence... it’s clear they live in alternative realities. Were truth and facts are just are decided by which side of the bed they woke up on,,

now you have Jim Jordan from Ohio on New Max saying 70% of Republicans don’t think that the election was fair and we must bring confidence back to the people , because we know instinctively! Let me say it again instinctively The election was rigged , not evidentiary reasons or that Trump eroded confidence in our election ,, but he know because of instinct!

Were was that instinct when kids were getting raped in shower coach?
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Apparently the Trumplicans failed to inform Coulter that they have given up claiming they can prove voter fraud! Now they claim the fraud is unprovable because of how the Defendant States conducted the elections.
They just should be believed, no evidence required.
Because in Tweety’s world facts and evidence to comply with the rule of law are a lot like science. That #^&#^&#^&#^&es for left wing intellectuals, not real Mericans
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From the reply just filed for GA, MICH, PA& WISC in SCOTUS: “The Court should not abide this seditious abuse of the judicial process, and should send a clear and un- mistakable signal that such abuse must never be replicated.”

From the reply just filed for GA, MICH, PA& WISC in SCOTUS: “The Court should not abide this seditious abuse of the judicial process, and should send a clear and un- mistakable signal that such abuse must never be replicated.”

Sounds like something guilty people would write
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Sounds like something guilty people would write
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Feel free to move to one of the republics of New Trumpistan when the con man succeeds in destroying the USA and accomplishes his assigned mission from his master
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Feel free to move to one of the republics of New Trumpistan when the con man succeeds in destroying the USA and accomplishes his assigned mission from his master
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just as long as you remain on your side of the border in Dumbassistan:wavey:

Rudy’s and Trump moving the goal post again seeing they are getting smoked in court they’re going for the Hail Mary which I think was the plan from the start,,
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if it's a hail mary...then it probably wasn't the plan from the start...right?

This has become a loyalty contest which may spell the end of the current Republican party..... Never in my life could I imagine >100 elected members of Congress signing on to nullify and overturn an election, ie. the voice of the people who elected them!

I've always been confident in the democrats willingness and ability to cheat in an election:claps:

Ross add Scott to that list, can you image where this country ends up if this attempt to ignore the will of the people to hold on to the power is successful?

Well, the Trumplican Party is an autocratic organization.
Why are they insisting that the election was stolen?

Because Donald Trump says so.

On command from Trump, this position became mandatory.

This is the definition of autocracy. And once you understand that the GOP itself has become an autocracy, it becomes easy to understand a lot of what’s going on.
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Ross add Scott to that list, can you image where this country ends up if this attempt to ignore the will of the people to hold on to the power is successful?

can you imagine where the country ends up if the democrats continue to undermine and destroy our election system?.....probably exactly where they want the country to end up :biglaugh:

this was such a big success that next time we should start sending ballots out to everyone in the country on January 1st...and send them one every month leading up to the election because they might forget or something...and because voting is such an arduous process we should allow everyone to send pictures in of their filled out ballots with their cell phones and if someone is concerned that others don't have cell phones they can take pictures of other people's ballots and send them in for them as an act of kindness and civic responsibility....or just take a picture of the whole suitcase of ballots and mark it democrat, that will save the talliers a lot of time...we should expect nothing less than 135% voter participation

Scott, for crying out loud.... SHOW ME...something, anything in the way of proof that would make me even consider this argument. Over a month and there is ZERO PROOF.

Scott, for crying out loud.... SHOW ME...something, anything in the way of proof that would make me even consider this argument. Over a month and there is ZERO PROOF.
Zero proof? There's been like 40+ lawsuits :rotf2:

Scott, for crying out loud.... SHOW ME...something, anything in the way of proof that would make me even consider this argument. Over a month and there is ZERO PROOF.

this is like the steroid era in baseball, lance armstrong etc...everyone caught up in what is going on...some were questioning the validity of the performances...others said how dare you denigrate these great accomplishments....if you believe biden inc. got around 80 million legal votes you are delusional...it will all come out...someone will want to brag, take credit or most likely want to rub it in trump's face at some point...democrats know elections are like thanksgiving...if you screw up the turkey you aren't going back to cook another...they haven't made it easier for people to vote, they've made it easier for them to screw with the election results...it's in their blood

People actually did Steroids

First they had the Deathstar, that crashed.
Then they unleashed the Krakens, all were killed.
So far Tweety’s ace team is 1-55 in court and just to be clear, they are the number 1.
Do you think maybe the judiciary is trying to tell him that in this country, Judges do not appoint the President.
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Trump: 'The only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged' Aug 2020

He was making and mixing the Kool Aid in Aug and Scott’s and his followers have been on a steady supply side even before Aug 8th,, And the current seditious move by 18 AGs and 100 Republican house members fraud is not mentioned ... And Texas the lead State who claimed other states election some how violated the constitution ..

If People recall Gov Abbott last min with out legislative approval ordered 1ballot per county even in county’s the Size of RI ,, These actions are so much bigger than Biden or Trump. and if your ok with casting out millions of vote Republican and Democratic and only in states Trump lost .. Please Stop calling yourself an American or a Patriot or what ever you think you are, because If your on board with this nonsense you walked away from what America is all about . In my view
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Trump: 'The only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged' Aug 2020


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he was right...we need an investigation...if there was no wrong doing then there is nothing to worry about...right?

you dummies were telling us a few weeks back that the hunter stories were bs and "conspiracy theory" and 97 experts agree....that was great :hihi:

People actually did Steroids

First they had the Deathstar, that crashed.
Then they unleashed the Krakens, all were killed.
So far Tweety’s ace team is 1-55 in court and just to be clear, they are the number 1.
Do you think maybe the judiciary is trying to tell him that in this country, Judges do not appoint the President.
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wayne said the goal throughout the game is to throw a hail mary at the end and win...so let's wait for that...

The scummy Repub. won't win anything with their suits but we'll hear that there was constant talk of fraud so voting laws to be tightened up. shorter hours, no drop boxes, etc.

The scummy Repub. won't win anything with their suits .

maybe they should wear tan suits...

you forgot...show an ID

maybe they should wear tan suits...

you forgot...show an ID

Republicans have cut the number of Early Voting sites in Georgia’s Cobb County in half — primarily removing sites in minority neighborhoods.

Cobb County has over half a million voters and went for Biden by 14 points in November.

This is what actual election stealing looks like.

he was right...we need an investigation...if there was no wrong doing then there is nothing to worry about...right?

you dummies were telling us a few weeks back that the hunter stories were bs and "conspiracy theory" and 97 experts agree....that was great :hihi:

the new conservative logic lets make stuff up then call for an investigation.. then when Rational people call them on their BS this is their response

"if there was no wrong doing then there is nothing to worry about...right"

like I said not sure how that is based on how America works .. but Thats how it works in every authoritarian and dictators countrys are run :kewl:

he was right...we need an investigation...if there was no wrong doing then there is nothing to worry about...right?

you dummies were telling us a few weeks back that the hunter stories were bs and "conspiracy theory" and 97 experts agree....that was great :hihi:

this ?? MacIsaac also said he copied the contents of one of the laptops for Giuliani. And, sure enough,

Ya ok,, but in your America stole content is good evidence guess illegal search and seizure is another legal process cast aside by Trumps Party

McCarthyism ring a bell

if you believe biden inc. got around 80 million legal votes you are delusional...
Biden got ~19% more votes than Clinton did in 2016. Trump got about ~15% more votes than he did in 2016. We know scores of independents and republicans moved to Biden.

This makes perfect sense, it was just a very consequential election during a pandemic that drove turnout.

Biden got ~19% more votes than Clinton did in 2016. Trump got about ~15% more votes than he did in 2016. We know scores of independents and republicans moved to Biden.

This makes perfect sense, it was just a very consequential election during a pandemic that drove turnout.

Spence didn't you see the rallies ! all the people (true believers) that alone enough evidence to prove it was stolen

Yet in 2016 they called it the silent majority..

seems the silent majority switched sides:shocked:

but this is whats trending in Trump world
Time to start rounding up the criminals or pick a side and settle this in the streets!

I hope you remember which of your neighbors had a "Biden/Harris" yard sign last month.

its out of control

And they only have the best

Currently testifying at WI Legislature's hearing on the 2020 election: Phil Kline, whose law license was suspended "indefinitely" by the Kansas Supreme Court after finding "clear and convincing evidence" he had violated 11 rules of professional conduct

Scott, for crying out loud.... SHOW ME...something, anything in the way of proof that would make me even consider this argument. Over a month and there is ZERO PROOF.

Scott has nothing, just like all the “good” lawyers who brought all this frivolous suits, but forgot to bring any evidence to support their case. It’s really amazing to watch the Republican Party implode and if it costs them the senate can you just imagine how much crazier this will become.

Biden and Harris named Time's Person of the Year Man talk about rubbing salt in the wounds Trump nations going to melt down even more
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Biden and Harris named Time's Person of the Year Man talk about rubbing salt in the wounds Trump nations going to melt down even more
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He will be up all night tweeting, I don’t know if his fragile psyche can survive that one, loosing he clearly can’t handle; the winner getting that award might (hopefully) push him over the edge.

It’s really amazing to watch the Republican Party implode



you dummies have been talking about the republican party imploding for years...just like pete and his bombshells....it's like you never read or remember what you write you just keep repeating the same nonsense

loosing he clearly can’t handle



?:huh:

Biden and Harris named Time's Person of the Year

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you'd think they'd give it to first responders or people who did something of importance instead of those two fools

you'd think they'd give it to first responders or people who did something of importance instead of those two fools

You would think. They would have but Never said I supported the move

And I doubt should be happy if those you suggest we’re on the cover either
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you dummies have been talking about the republican party imploding for years...just like pete and his bombshells....it's like you never read or remember what you write you just keep repeating the same nonsense

Well you had eight years of Obama Trump got in and was impeached and shown the door, how is that going for you? I’ve voted both parties as an independent, actually more Republican over my life, but the Republican Party is fuc*ed up right now.

you dummies have been talking about the republican party imploding for years...just like pete and his bombshells....it's like you never read or remember what you write you just keep repeating the same nonsense


No, Scott. No. This is new territory the Republican congress has ventured into. They have chosen, yes chosen, to move into lock step with Donald Trump, who lost a presidential election in the United States of America, MORE THAN A MONTH AGO..... They fear the man. Very few in positions of power have stepped out of ranks, notably Barr and Romney. Scott, please note that I have not typed one word of support for the President elect, nor the Democratic party and its platform. This is more about the American process and doing the right thing. This group of elected Republicans has lost its moral compass, and that is what will cause the implosion of the Republican party and its current dictatorial autocratic "leader".

No, Scott. No. This is new territory the Republican congress has ventured into. They have chosen, yes chosen, to move into lock step with Donald Trump, who lost a presidential election in the United States of America, MORE THAN A MONTH AGO..... They fear the man. Very few in positions of power have stepped out of ranks, notably Barr and Romney. Scott, please note that I have not typed one word of support for the President elect, nor the Democratic party and its platform. This is more about the American process and doing the right thing. This group of elected Republicans has lost its moral compass, and that is what will cause the implosion of the Republican party and its current dictatorial autocratic "leader".
Well said.

I can appreciate a wide range of political positions but the moment we stop believing in the democratic process we are toast. The train for some has left the station.
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Love the new GOP.

Matt Gaetz is truly your spirit animal.

I guess GFY finally worked on some people.
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And why would we want to thank first responders? Did we have some kind of epidemic? Trump said it was finished.

You guys will swallow anything.
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Supreme Court throws out yet another Trump Hail Mary case, are we winning yet?

No, Scott. No. This is new territory the Republican congress has ventured into. They have chosen, yes chosen, to move into lock step with Donald Trump, who lost a presidential election in the United States of America, MORE THAN A MONTH AGO..... They fear the man. Very few in positions of power have stepped out of ranks, notably Barr and Romney. Scott, please note that I have not typed one word of support for the President elect, nor the Democratic party and its platform. This is more about the American process and doing the right thing. This group of elected Republicans has lost its moral compass, and that is what will cause the implosion of the Republican party and its current dictatorial autocratic "leader".

The American process is working just fine. Everything is being done according to process. The process will come to a resolution. It's not as if the Republicans you despair of believe there was no election fraud and are only falling in line with Tyrant Trump. I do think the reputed fraud occurred. And there are various pieces of evidence of it. But actual proof will probably be too difficult to find. The process will go through discovery, if it is allowed to do so. Then we will go on from there. What will destroy confidence in the process is not allowing it to happen as it is constitutionally allowed.

I assume I am disagreeing with you in regard to what is at stake in this election. I do believe that political party agendas are impacting the American constitutional process. Contesting the election through the constitutional process is not destroying it.

The American process is working just fine. Everything is being done according to process. The process will come to a resolution.

What scary you actually believe what you write

So how many time has this happened in our 244 year history have states and house members attempted to subvert the will of the people so egregiously?
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What scary you actually believe what you write

So how many time has this happened in our 244 year history have states and house members attempted to subvert the will of the people so egregiously?


Why be scared that I believe what I write? Should I be scared that you believe that states and house members are attempting to subvert the will of the people.

Apparently, we both believe that some are attempting to subvert the will of the people. We just disagree on who the some are.

Why be scared that I believe what I write? Should I be scared that you believe that states and house members are attempting to subvert the will of the people.

Apparently, we both believe that some are attempting to subvert the will of the people. We just disagree on who the some are.
Ones based in actual events one is not
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Apparently the majority of the SCOTUS including all 3 Tweety appointees disagree with the AG of Texas and numerous congressmen.
So the leader of the Trumplican Party in Texas advocates for sedition.

“This decision will have far reaching ramifications for the future of our constitutional republic. Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution.”
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Ones based in actual events one is not


We believe in different chains of events.

Apparently the majority of the SCOTUS including all 3 Tweety appointees disagree with the AG of Texas and numerous congressmen.
So the leader of the Trumplican Party in Texas advocates for sedition.

“This decision will have far reaching ramifications for the future of our constitutional republic. Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution.”


Does the SCOTUS decision please you? Is the process playing out constitutionally? So far it seems so to me. Does that mean that SCOTUS is actually making the "right" decision. No. But it is the decision. And that's how it works . . . and still working. Relax. Your side is winning. That may not be what's best for preserving our Constitutional Republic. So be it. All things come to an end.

I'm not looking with favor to our looming Progressive Administrative State. And I doubt that most, or even many, know what that means.

Does the SCOTUS decision please you? Is the process playing out constitutionally? So far it seems so to me. Does that mean that SCOTUS is actually making the "right" decision. No. But it is the decision. And that's how it works . . . and still working. Relax. Your side is winning. That may not be what's best for preserving our Constitutional Republic. So be it. All things come to an end.

I'm not looking with favor to our looming Progressive Administrative State. And I doubt that most, or even many, know what that means.
Go ahead and be very afraid
But look back at history
The Whig Party fractured and died in the 1850s over slavery. Will the Republican Party fracture and die in the 2020s over democracy?
They certainly have demonstrated their belief in autocracy.

And don’t get too frantic, history has shown that the American experiment self centers every so often and the people on both edges get over it or buckle down and get to work to sway things in the direction they believe is correct.
Or they can just play the victim card
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A little history

As we play The Aliens & Seditions Game in Congress, a fun note: In 1861, 11 senators and 3 representatives were expelled for supporting the Confederacy and not acknowledging Lincoln's legitimate election.

Have a good Friday.
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Does the SCOTUS decision please you?

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good thing trump "packed the court" so they would do his bidding at times like these....oh wait...the fools were wrong about that too...I guess they didn't need to savage Kavanaugh with lies and insult Barrett....but that's just how they troll

And don’t get too frantic

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frantic:hihi:....you and your buddies sound like the hags on the View lately...

Go ahead and be very afraid

I have no desire to seek your advice or approval over whether I should be afraid. I didn't say I was afraid, and it is not a good way of starting a reply by pulling some fatherly or superior ploy of being in the position of advising me how to go ahead and feel something I have in no way indicated that I do.

But look back at history

I have looked back on history time and again in exposing the Progressive agenda. But no one other than a few actual constitutionalists, takes me up on that discussion.

The Whig Party fractured and died in the 1850s over slavery. Will the Republican Party fracture and die in the 2020s over democracy?

Both parties have fractured and mucked their way through a continuous process of dying. They both had a change in names and their political philosophies kept changing. They both have had what you would call autocratic Presidents, some of whom on the Democrat side were way more autocratic than Trump, e.g. Jackson, Wilson, FDR, LBJ, and Obama could also be included in that pantheon of what Democrats would call great Presidents.

The greatest force of change affecting both parties has been Progressive ideology. And that resides more firmly today in the Democrat party.

And the notion that the Republican party will fracture and die over democracy is laughable. We are not a democracy. If you mean that the Republican Party will die because it is divided between those who want to maintain us as a Republic and those who want to transform us into a Democracy, I haven't heard of that squabble.

If you mean that there are Republicans who actually want to get rid of our supposedly democratic system of voting, I see no evidence of that. The effort to root out what Republicans see as fraud is actually a way to protect the system. And they are working within our system to do that. If they can't prove the fraud, then we continue on unabated.
Even the fraud will continue--especially as it has in local politics, which is the groundwork that can make for rigged national voting.

Democracy is very susceptible to fraud and to manipulation by a ruling class. That's why the Founders avoided a pure Democracy.

They certainly have demonstrated their belief in autocracy.

Trump? That's been part of the left's withering and lying narrative. Trump is an autocrat. Trump is a dictator. Trump is a Nazi. Trump is a white supremacist. That's all BS. He has wielded far less unconstitutional power than Jackson, Wilson, FDR, and LBJ--those great and revered Democrat Presidents.

And don’t get too frantic,

Oh, so now your advising me on how not to act.
See above for my opinion on that.

history has shown that the American experiment self centers every so often and the people on both edges get over it or buckle down and get to work to sway things in the direction they believe is correct.

Self centering is a comforting and assuring phrase that avoids the truth of what actually happens which is an evolution in a given direction of more or less freedom. We have been consistently evolving in the latter direction. The chief driving force of that direction is Progressive politics. It is a force that engenders far more centralized government power over our individual lives than any one so-called autocratic President can.

Or they can just play the victim card


Or they can "fight the power" and insist on maintaining our constitutional republican form of government. Insist on rolling back centralized regulatory power. Insist on individual over group rights. For starters.

Fat chance. More likely they can just keep believing in the corporate journalism that informs everything they know about what their government really is, what it's doing, and who actually controls it.

No, Scott. No. This is new territory the Republican congress has ventured into. They have chosen, yes chosen, to move into lock step with Donald Trump, who lost a presidential election in the United States of America, MORE THAN A MONTH AGO..... They fear the man. Very few in positions of power have stepped out of ranks, notably Barr and Romney. Scott, please note that I have not typed one word of support for the President elect, nor the Democratic party and its platform. This is more about the American process and doing the right thing. This group of elected Republicans has lost its moral compass, and that is what will cause the implosion of the Republican party and its current dictatorial autocratic "leader".

just for the record, I've voted for trump as many times as wayne and pete....I don't like trump, I don't have a trump flag on my car and I haven't been to a rally, though I hear they are great fun....it took a trump type personality to win against the relentlessly insane left 4 years ago, the others would have crumbled like romney and mccain, we got to watch their insanity over the last 4 years...he's still better than the alternative of pelosi, schumer, biden/harris running things in my opinion.....they will do far more damage that trump's escapades over the last few weeks....

Or they can "fight the power"



hey, I know were headed for another lockdown but protesting by the thousands is still OK...right?? ;)

It’s sad. even Forrest Gump knows the deal

Another 885,000 Americans filed new unemployment claims last week

The Right blames Biden
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Another 885,000 Americans filed new unemployment claims last week

The Right blames Biden
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who does? which group
of influential republicans blames biden, exactly?
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Hmmm....

From Bloomberg

Pfizer says it has "millions more doses" of its vaccine waiting in a warehouse for the U.S. government to tell it where to send it, via
@TheTerminal
"As of now, we have not received any shipment instructions for additional doses," Pfizer said.

I've asked the White House for a response, needless to say.

Two days ago, @PressSec said there will be another 4 million Pfizer vaccine doses shipped on Friday. (It's unclear whether that's the same batch that Pfizer is referring to.)

Here’s the plan, the bigger the crater the more difficult it will be to have a successful four years.

We’re dealing with people that want things as bad as possible for the country so they can get their people back in office in 24’

Why, because elections have consequences

Another 885,000 Americans filed new unemployment claims last week

The Right blames Biden
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I don't...


hey, it's going to be interesting in the next few months when all of these people that have been on extended and enhanced unemployment do their taxes :bl:

I don't...


hey, it's going to be interesting in the next few months when all of these people that have been on extended and enhanced unemployment do their taxes :bl:

is there federal withholding on those checks? or do they owe taxes at the end of the year?
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is there federal withholding on those checks? or do they owe taxes at the end of the year?
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Usually there isn’t, it’s up to the individual to plan for it.
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Republicans are pro life accept when it comes to Covid hummm?..
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Republicans are pro life accept when it comes to Covid hummm?..
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This is one of the most pathetic comments you've made.

This is one of the most pathetic comments you've made.

Pales in comparison to your defense of Tweety.

Here’s the administration’s prolife stance, because in this case some should die so it doesn’t disrupt the lives of others or is it just plain money.

A top Trump appointee, Paul Alexander, repeatedly urged top health officials to adopt a "herd immunity" approach to Covid-19 and allow millions of Americans to be infected by the virus, according to Politico.

"We want them infected," he said.
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This is one of the most pathetic comments you've made.

Usual reaction to the truth
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Pales in comparison to your defense of Tweety.

Here’s the administration’s prolife stance, because in this case some should die so it doesn’t disrupt the lives of others or is it just plain money.

A top Trump appointee, Paul Alexander, repeatedly urged top health officials to adopt a "herd immunity" approach to Covid-19 and allow millions of Americans to be infected by the virus, according to Politico.

"We want them infected," he said.


Infection is the natural process to achieve herd immunity. Vaccine is an artificial infection that is presumably safer than natural. Vaccine "infects" with a more harmless strain. Protecting the vulnerable while allowing the mass population -- of which 99% are not statistically at risk of dying from covid--is the way to achieve natural herd immunity. Having the vaccine here, in a phenomenally quick time, allows us to switch the method toward infection and herd immunity. Sweden went this route But it failed to protect the vulnerable--had they done that, it would have severely cut down on the number of deaths.

Infection is the natural process to achieve herd immunity. Vaccine is an artificial infection that is presumably safer than natural. Vaccine "infects" with a more harmless strain. Protecting the vulnerable while allowing the mass population -- of which 99% are not statistically at risk of dying from covid--is the way to achieve natural herd immunity. Having the vaccine here, in a phenomenally quick time, allows us to switch the method toward infection and herd immunity. Sweden went this route But it failed to protect the vulnerable--had they done that, it would have severely cut down on the number of deaths.

Sweden has admitted that they took the wrong approach largely because with the care needed by the vulnerable, they are not able to be isolated.

In this country achieving herd immunity without a vaccine is projected to kill between 1 and 2 Million Americans and could leave millions more with unknown lingering symptoms that would then qualify as uninsurable pre-existing conditions.

The long term effects of covid infection are not yet known.

Since December 2019, COVID-19 has killed more people in the U.S. than influenza has in the last five years.

Many more people are susceptible to COVID-19 because there is little preexisting immunity to the virus that causes it—SARS-CoV-2. Through vaccinations and previous infections, a portion of the population has some immunity to influenza, which helps limit the number of cases we see each year.

COVID-19 has a higher severe disease and mortality rate than influenza in all age groups, except perhaps children under the age of 12.

COVID-19 survivors report many more long-term effects of the infection than influenza survivors. Lingering symptoms like weakness, shortness of breath, trouble focusing and, in some cases, kidney and heart problems are much more common after COVID-19 than after influenza.

“Mild” COVID-19 illness has been described as “flu-like.” It’s important to remember that the flu is a pretty debilitating disease so “mild” COVID-19 is still a pretty significant disease.

With all infectious diseases, we focus on two main objectives:

1. Treat the infected people
2. Limit the spread of the infection in the population.

A large number of COVID-19 patients present with no or very mild symptoms, but those individuals can still transmit the virus to others, some of whom could have a much more serious course of illness. Every person who gets infected keeps the “chains of transmission” going, which can bring COVID-19 to those who are more vulnerable.

Usual reaction to the truth
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wayne, you believe everything you believe and regurgitate is truth and anything that disagrees with your truth is conspiracy theory.....that's self-delusion :uhuh:

Sweden has admitted that they took the wrong approach largely because with the care needed by the vulnerable, they are not able to be isolated.

In this country achieving herd immunity without a vaccine is projected to kill between 1 and 2 Million Americans and could leave millions more with unknown lingering symptoms that would then qualify as uninsurable pre-existing conditions.

The long term effects of covid infection are not yet known.

Since December 2019, COVID-19 has killed more people in the U.S. than influenza has in the last five years.

Many more people are susceptible to COVID-19 because there is little preexisting immunity to the virus that causes it—SARS-CoV-2. Through vaccinations and previous infections, a portion of the population has some immunity to influenza, which helps limit the number of cases we see each year.

COVID-19 has a higher severe disease and mortality rate than influenza in all age groups, except perhaps children under the age of 12.

COVID-19 survivors report many more long-term effects of the infection than influenza survivors. Lingering symptoms like weakness, shortness of breath, trouble focusing and, in some cases, kidney and heart problems are much more common after COVID-19 than after influenza.

“Mild” COVID-19 illness has been described as “flu-like.” It’s important to remember that the flu is a pretty debilitating disease so “mild” COVID-19 is still a pretty significant disease.

With all infectious diseases, we focus on two main objectives:

1. Treat the infected people
2. Limit the spread of the infection in the population.

A large number of COVID-19 patients present with no or very mild symptoms, but those individuals can still transmit the virus to others, some of whom could have a much more serious course of illness. Every person who gets infected keeps the “chains of transmission” going, which can bring COVID-19 to those who are more vulnerable.

it's fun when peter tries to lecture

Republicans are pro life accept when it comes to Covid hummm?..
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WTF are you talking about? Nancy Pelosi admitted that she blocked passing a smaller relief bill, but now that Biden won, she'll vote for it. She admitted that.

WHat is your evidence that democrats care more "people" than Republicans? Because the data shows clearly that conservatives are actually more likely to give money and time to charity, than liberals, and if you consider the role that religion plays on both sides, that is to be expected.

Also waiting for you to support your absurd claim that Republicans blame Biden for the recent covid spike.

Gov Cuomo killed thousands by forcing nursing homes to admit covid-positive patients, this was long after we all knew it was going to target the elderly. But you have nothing to say about that. None of you do.

republican=bad, democrat=good. We get it.

How about you think for yourself, for two consecutive seconds, and see how it feels? Just two consecutive seconds.

God you're a simpleton.

WHo started the Chicago fire, Wayne? Sarah Palin?

Usual reaction to the truth
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Its truth, because you say it?

Here's some truth.

The New York Times of all places, published the results of a study that showed that conservatives are actually a little bit more charitable than liberals.

Explain how what you said is "truth", given this data please. We're ALL EARS.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html

Ackshully, The victims are skyscreaming again
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