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Jim in CT
11-27-2020, 06:58 PM
saw a clip on tv just now...a montage of democrat elected officials, tv hosts, celebrities...after the 2016 election...all saying that electors should cast aside the election and not vote for trump.

someone explain how that wasn’t a plot against our democratic institutions?

answer - it’s always ok when democrats do it.

wdmso
11-27-2020, 08:03 PM
saw a clip on tv just now...a montage of democrat elected officials, tv hosts, celebrities...after the 2016 election...all saying that electors should cast aside the election and not vote for trump.

someone explain how that wasn’t a plot against our democratic institutions?

answer - it’s always ok when democrats do it.

Again your clueless , so much so, you don’t have the intellectual honesty to see the Truth

clearly you missed Trump crying Fraud before during the election 1st it was mail in ballots then it was poll watchers then in was George Soros Hugo and Venezuelan, then the voting machines changed vote when that failed he call Republicans from Minnesota and Pennsylvania in an attempt to appoint electors who’ll vote for him the POTUS didnt this Jim he didn’t talk about it he did it.

But you think celebrities and TV hosts who suggested flipping electors is the same as Trump actually Trying ..

Take a history lesson please, maybe if a 3rd party tells you how f up what’s he’s trying is , maybe you’ll be able to get out of the Cult
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Jim in CT
11-27-2020, 08:09 PM
Again your clueless , so much so, you don’t have the intellectual honesty to see the Truth

clearly you missed Trump crying Fraud before during the election 1st it was mail in ballots then it was poll watchers then in was George Soros Hugo and Venezuelan, then the voting machines changed vote when that failed he call Republicans from Minnesota and Pennsylvania in an attempt to appoint electors who’ll vote for him the POTUS didnt this Jim he didn’t talk about it he did it.

But you think celebrities and TV hosts who suggested flipping electors is the same as Trump actually Trying ..

Take a history lesson please, maybe if a 3rd party tells you how f up what’s he’s trying is , maybe you’ll be able to get out of the Cult
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i’ve said to you, very explicitly, 25 times, that it’s awful for
trump to make claims
without evidence. how dim are you, that you still
don’t get that?

now, is it supporting our democracy or undermining our democracy, to ask electors not to vote for the winner of an election

obviously that’s undermining democracy. but you won’t admit it, you physically cannot admit it, because you can’t criticize democrats.

i take it you don’t get invited to a whole lot of MENSA picnics.

liberal=correct, conservative=wrong, every time, no exceptions. because life is that simple.
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Jim in CT
11-27-2020, 08:12 PM
jim: isn’t it antithetical to democracy to ask electors to do the opposite of what voters chose?

WDMSO: no, because orangemanbad.
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wdmso
11-28-2020, 09:05 AM
Jim Trumps President of the United States that seems to be the part your missing.

What people think who have Zero power to act on their ideas or suggestions like a conservative favorite AOC don’t concern me..

That’s seems to be the difference between you and I , and that’s fine

ps i’ve said to you, very explicitly, 25 times, that it’s awful for
trump to make claims,, I’d call this the 1st time
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Jim in CT
11-28-2020, 09:51 AM
Jim Trumps President of the United States that seems to be the part your missing.

What people think who have Zero power to act on their ideas or suggestions like a conservative favorite AOC don’t concern me..

That’s seems to be the difference between you and I , and that’s fine

ps i’ve said to you, very explicitly, 25 times, that it’s awful for
trump to make claims,, I’d call this the 1st time
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the congress people
who called for impeaching him before his first day, therefore before he had a chance to commit an impeachable offense, aren’t in a position of power?

quite the civics expert.
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spence
11-28-2020, 10:29 AM
saw a clip on tv just now...a montage of democrat elected officials, tv hosts, celebrities...after the 2016 election...all saying that electors should cast aside the election and not vote for trump.

someone explain how that wasn’t a plot against our democratic institutions?

answer - it’s always ok when democrats do it.
Never heard of it, must have been a big story.
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Jim in CT
11-28-2020, 10:52 AM
Never heard of it, must have been a big story.
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you never heard any of them suggesting that back then. if true, which is doubtful, it’s a good example of your ignorance. if not true, it’s a good example of your willingness to lie about democrats behaving badly.
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spence
11-28-2020, 11:16 AM
you never heard any of them suggesting that back then. if true, which is doubtful, it’s a good example of your ignorance. if not true, it’s a good example of your willingness to lie about democrats behaving badly.
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No, it just wasn’t a big story. Looks like mostly a handful of Bernie electors who were looking for a PR stunt because they want to move away from the electoral college. Very different situation but you’re drunk on it because you watched a “video.”
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Jim in CT
11-28-2020, 11:19 AM
No, it just wasn’t a big story. Looks like mostly a handful of Bernie electors who were looking for a PR stunt because they want to move away from the electoral college. Very different situation but you’re drunk on it because you watched a “video.”
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liberals behaving badly is never a big story. but when conservatives do it, boy...

influential people asking the electoral college to ignore
an election, and people
in congress ( who took an oath to protect the constitution) calling for impeachment before his first day, not a big story. nope.
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Pete F.
11-28-2020, 11:30 AM
Perhaps someone has forgotten about the birther who called Obama’s candidacy illegitimate and after his election called for his impeachment. And then they elected him, remember there’s always a tweet
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spence
11-28-2020, 11:36 AM
liberals behaving badly is never a big story. but when conservatives do it, boy...

influential people asking the electoral college to ignore
an election, and people
in congress ( who took an oath to protect the constitution) calling for impeachment before his first day, not a big story. nope.
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People were discussing impeachment early because Trump was peddling impeachable offenses.
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Got Stripers
11-28-2020, 03:10 PM
Trump demands a Wis. recount, it adds to Bidens lead by 132 votes and it costs him 3 million to do it; is there any wonder he went bankrupt so many times.

Pete F.
11-28-2020, 11:14 PM
Newt Gingrich 2016:

"I think the recount mania is one more example of the collapse of the Democratic Party as a realistic institution....all of the nutcakes...they're going to delegitimize themselves. They're going to end up looking silly."

Newt 2020: The more data comes out on vote anomalies that clearly are not legitimate the more it looks like 2020 may be the biggest Presidential theft since Adams and Clay robbed Andrew Jackson in 1824. State legislatures should demand recounts.

Hmmmm
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wdmso
11-29-2020, 09:26 AM
And in Breitbart land this is the reaction to Pennsylvania Supreme Court Tosses Challenge to Vote-by-Mail Because It Came Too Late

Simply saying you had no issue until you lost. Seeing
the court ruled September 17th that post marked ballots could be counted 3 days after the election but they only see their own realities

Biden Democrat operatives in Pennsylvania and at least 4 other swing states have shattered any confidence anyone will ever have for fair elections in the United States.....Joe Biden MUST be held directly accountable for his treasonous bullshíτ!!!
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wdmso
11-29-2020, 02:28 PM
Latest Trump on Fox telling the Host the FBI and The DOJ are MIA on the voter fraud



When asked how he will prove his claims of election fraud, Trump said, “I’m going to use 125% of my energy to do it. You need a judge that’s willing to hear a case. You need a Supreme Court that’s willing to make a real big decision based on everything.”

Still pulling authoritarian Bs and dictator lite ... with a call to judges who are loyal And still the Republican leadership remains silent puttingTrump before country so not to lose their base .. and future elections how much farther are Republicans willing to go?
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Jim in CT
11-29-2020, 02:51 PM
Latest Trump on Fox telling the Host the FBI and The DOJ are MIA on the voter fraud



When asked how he will prove his claims of election fraud, Trump said, “I’m going to use 125% of my energy to do it. You need a judge that’s willing to hear a case. You need a Supreme Court that’s willing to make a real big decision based on everything.”

Still pulling authoritarian Bs and dictator lite ... with a call to judges who are loyal And still the Republican leadership remains silent puttingTrump before country so not to lose their base .. and future elections how much farther are Republicans willing to go?
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right. because that’s what dictators do, they go to court and make an argument. just what hitler and pol pot did.
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Got Stripers
11-29-2020, 04:44 PM
Yup he has a great track record in court, but when Rudy is pleading your case it’s a clown show.

Jim in CT
11-29-2020, 05:01 PM
Yup he has a great track record in court, but when Rudy is pleading your case it’s a clown show.

missed the point completely. he has a laughable record in court. but dictators don’t hire lawyers and go to court and deal with losing, do they?

what’s dictatorial about hiring a lawyer and going to court? that’s the opposite of what a dictator would do. do none of you know what a dictator is?

i love the accusations that he’s a dictator. because any dictator would
of course let CNN and MSNBC talk about him the way they do. right?

he’s a dictator, who lets people trash him unlike any previous potus has dealt with. he’s a racist, despite denouncing racists and doing more
for blacks than any president in at least 50 years.

Democrats want to reshape the nation to help them win, adding states and packing the court. the media couldn’t be more biased, in an effort to help their preferred candidates. Big tech censors posts that are critical of democrats. but Trump is the dictator who is somehow, in ways not yet explained after four years, threatening our democracy.
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Got Stripers
11-29-2020, 05:49 PM
Jim if all you says is true please explain to me why that is. So using your argument the majority of the media is completely left leaning, yet there is a wealth on money on the right, is it that there is no media market for their message other than Fox. Trump in theory is the best guy for big tech, as he is all about deregulation, so why is big tech his enemy? You argue he isn’t acting like a dictator, it’s only because thankfully our systems has (so far) had enough checks and balances to prevent him from having complete control. Could it be that the Obama eight years and this decisive victory is a sign the Republican Party has an issue with connecting to the voting public.

Jim in CT
11-29-2020, 05:56 PM
Jim if all you says is true please explain to me why that is. So using your argument the majority of the media is completely left leaning, yet there is a wealth on money on the right, is it that there is no media market for their message other than Fox. Trump in theory is the best guy for big tech, as he is all about deregulation, so why is big tech his enemy? You argue he isn’t acting like a dictator, it’s only because thankfully our systems has (so far) had enough checks and balances to prevent him from having complete control. Could it be that the Obama eight years and this decisive victory is a sign the Republican Party has an issue with connecting to the voting public.

“if” all i say is true? please tell
me what i said, exactly, which isn’t true?
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“there is a wealth on money on the right”.

please clarify. liberals are more wealthy. liberal
strongholds are on the coasts, conservative stronghold is flyover country.

Jim in CT
11-29-2020, 06:05 PM
Could it be that the Obama eight years and this decisive victory is a sign the Republican Party has an issue with connecting to the voting public.

that’s just about as ignorant as it gets.

the obama 8 years were a disaster for democrats and a windfall for republicans. during that time, the democrats lost record numbers of seats at the federal, state, and municipal level. look it up. it was a disaster for democrats.

similarly, if you’re saying this election was a home run for democrats, tell that to anyone at the dnc. it was almost, not quite, a flop. everyone was talking about big gains in the house, and senate, and in state legislatures ( very important in census years). didn’t happen.

this isn’t a liberal country, which is why you don’t see liberals making the case for liberalism ( late term abortions, green new deals, defunding police, forgiving student loans, etc.). what you hear from liberals, is that republicans are evil. that’s 90% of what you hear. never honest discussions about policy, because they know they can’t win an honest discussion about policy.
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wdmso
11-29-2020, 06:18 PM
right. because that’s what dictators do, they go to court and make an argument. just what hitler and pol pot did.
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Trumps is shopping for a loyal judges

I’d say I am shocked you can’t tell the difference. But you can you just don’t care.

What American President in history has done this.

Trump Claims FBI And Justice Department May Have Helped Rig Election

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/11/29/trump-claims-fbi-and-justice-department-may-have-helped-rig-election/

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Jim in CT
11-29-2020, 06:34 PM
Trump in theory is the best guy for big tech, as he is all about deregulation, so why is big tech his enemy? You argue he isn’t acting like a dictator, it’s only because thankfully our systems has (so far) had enough checks and balances to prevent him from having complete control. .

Fascinating, I mean fascinating.

IN THE SAME POST, you say Trump is an advocate for federal deregulation, and also a dictator.

You've lost your marbles. What kind of dictator, advocates for less federal regulation?

Trump wants smaller federal government control than you want, but HE'S the dictator.

Man oh man, you guys have blown a gasket.

"Trump in theory is the best guy for big tech"

Not if the CEOs are all liberals. I guess you really have your head in the sand.

Jim in CT
11-29-2020, 06:38 PM
Trumps is shopping for a loyal judges

I’d say I am shocked you can’t tell the difference. But you can you just don’t care.

What American President in history has done this.

Trump Claims FBI And Justice Department May Have Helped Rig Election

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/11/29/trump-claims-fbi-and-justice-department-may-have-helped-rig-election/

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"Trumps is shopping for a loyal judges "

And if he loses, he has said he'll leave. Not very dictatorial of him, is it.

YOU want more federal regulations than he wants, YOU want federal healthcare and more federal controls on everything. But Trump is the dictator.

If Trump is a dictator, and yet you want more powerful federal government than even he wants, doesn't that make you more of a dictator?

How can you possibly respond to that? Hold your pointer fnger horizontally, move it up and down quickly between your lips, and go "bee bee bee bee bee bee bee bee..."?

"Trump is a dictator! And he's the worst kind of dictator, the kind who wants to minimize federal control and give more liberty to individuals!"

Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is?

Jim in CT
11-29-2020, 06:39 PM
Trumps is shopping for a loyal judges


What American President in history has done this.


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Al Gore did exactly that. Exactly.

Pete F.
11-29-2020, 07:08 PM
Donald Trump accusing Bill Barr and the DOJ of trying to bring him down is proof that:

1. You are only useful to Donald Trump until you are no longer useful. At that point you are fair game to be thrown under the bus.

2. Donald is mentally unstable. Crazy may be a better word.
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Got Stripers
11-29-2020, 07:18 PM
It’s so fun to wind him up!

Jim in CT
11-29-2020, 07:22 PM
It’s so fun to wind him up!

so how can you criticize someone for being too in favor of deregulation, and also of being a dictator?
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Pete F.
11-29-2020, 09:02 PM
Guess you’d have to pay attention
The two things you cited are not mutually exclusive
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wdmso
11-29-2020, 10:02 PM
Al Gore did exactly that. Exactly.

Was he POTUS wow your such a history buff.
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Jim in CT
11-29-2020, 10:44 PM
Was he POTUS wow your such a history buff.
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ok. so suing to contest an election is ok for a challenger ( who was VP) but not the incumbent?

please explain that distinction? best of luck?
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Jim in CT
11-29-2020, 11:05 PM
GS and wdmso, since you both dodged, i’ll ask again...

how can you accuse trump of going too far with federal deregulation, and also accuse him of being a dictator? how does that make any sense whatsoever?

answer - orangemanbad. whatever it takes, no matter how absurd you need to sound, orange man must be bad. always, no exceptions.

a dictator who also wants the federal control to be too small. so you’re saying he’s a libertarian and a dictator. at the same time.

that’s wicked smaht.
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Pete F.
11-30-2020, 07:30 AM
Every dictator destroys the mechanisms of government so he can put it under his personal control.

Talk radio personalities and the Fox primetime hosts have only one primary function now: Keep Trump’s GOP alive, no matter what. They feed themselves and feed the political machine at once. And, without them, the GOP in its current form will wither and die.

The propaganda is the party and the party is propaganda. Sink or be a lamprey
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wdmso
11-30-2020, 08:27 AM
ok. so suing to contest an election is ok for a challenger ( who was VP) but not the incumbent?

please explain that distinction? best of luck?
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Jim you create your own facts like every other Trumper

Take a history lesson on the recounts in Fla I am not doing your work for you , once you’ve done that maybe you can comment.

Ps I’ll give you a hint the recount in Fla was done because of the closeness of the election Much like GA.. it wasn’t redone on complaints of National Fraud

But hea don’t let facts ruin your day
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Jim in CT
11-30-2020, 08:37 AM
Jim you create your own facts like every other Trumper

Take a history lesson on the recounts in Fla I am not doing your work for you , once you’ve done that maybe you can comment.

Ps I’ll give you a hint the recount in Fla was done because of the closeness of the election Much like GA.. it wasn’t redone on complaints of National Fraud

But hea don’t let facts ruin your day
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and here’s a history lesson for you. both candidates tried to exclude what they claimed were questionable votes. they made their case, and met the courts decide.

as always, it’s ok when gore does it, the end of the world when trump does it.
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wdmso
11-30-2020, 08:38 AM
GS and wdmso, since you both dodged, i’ll ask again...

how can you accuse trump of going too far with federal deregulation, and also accuse him of being a dictator? how does that make any sense whatsoever?

answer - orangemanbad. whatever it takes, no matter how absurd you need to sound, orange man must be bad. always, no exceptions.

a dictator who also wants the federal control to be too small. so you’re saying he’s a libertarian and a dictator. at the same time.

that’s wicked smaht.
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What’s not wicked smart

Is thinking deregulation has anything to do with Trump secret desires to be a strong authoritarian leader willing to steal what he can’t win , frustrated by the checks and balances built into our system


Ps your deregulation comment is based on the rights pre occupation with socialism,, Ps no one is claiming Trump want to be a socialist, except when it comes to farmer’s


And yes Orangeman is bad regardless of what good you think he has done , because his current attacks on our Democratic process clearly show how un American he is and the willingness of his supporters to love the man more than the country, he has convinced them their at war
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wdmso
11-30-2020, 08:51 AM
and here’s a history lesson for you. both candidates tried to exclude what they claimed were questionable votes. they made their case, and met the courts decide.

as always, it’s ok when gore does it, the end of the world when trump does it.
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Maybe you should demand of yourself what you demand in others

because if you think what Trumps doing is the same as Gore Vs Bush did , your intellectually dishonest, or just acting stupid or making up your own reality. I am going with a combination of all 3 .
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Jim in CT
11-30-2020, 08:56 AM
Maybe you should demand of yourself what you demand in others

because if you think what Trumps doing is the same as Gore Vs Bush did , your intellectually dishonest, or just acting stupid or making up your own reality. I am going with a combination of all 3 .
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i two things are exactly try the same.

but in both cases, trump and gore chose not to accept the results of the election. both tried to make the case in court, that the posted election results were wrong. gore accepted the results of the court, we have to see if trump will do the same.

one of those was perfectly acceptable to you, the other is horrible. we’re all shocked that you claim it was ok when the democrat did it.
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Pete F.
11-30-2020, 09:09 AM
The 2000 election was decided by 537 votes in one state, Florida. With Florida in Bush's column, the outcome of the Electoral College was 271-266 — about as close as it gets. In fact, it was the closest electoral vote margin since 1876 that saw Rutherford B. Hayes beat Samuel Tilden by just one electoral vote, 185-184.

In the 2020 election, if Biden's leads hold, he is on track to win 306 electoral votes to 232 for Trump. (Somewhat ironically, that's the same margin Trump would have won by in 2016 if there weren't two faithless electors who brought his total down to 304.)

As opposed to focusing attention on a single state, Trump has several lawsuits in courts in multiple states, many of which have already been thrown out. There will be a recount in Georgia, and Trump is seeking one in Wisconsin, which the AP called for Biden, but he's unlikely to win either one because he is down almost 35,000 votes between the two states.

A FairVote study of 27 recounts between 2000 and 2015 found the average vote change in them was 282 votes — nowhere near the gap Trump is trying to overcome.

The president's allegations and conspiracy theories of sweeping voter fraud have so far been without merit. Fraud is hard to pull off in modern elections because of the safeguards in place, including electronic voter registration records, signature matching technology and post-election audits of the vote.

"I think it is more difficult now," Ginsberg said, noting, "The Trump campaign is basing all its actions on the thought that there was fraud, and now they're not able to prove it, so their basic premise is not holding up."

On Thursday, the government agencies overseeing the security of the election issued a joint statement defending the integrity of the election and calling it the "most secure in American history."

"There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised," they wrote. They added, "While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too."

Now do but the Kraken...............

wdmso
11-30-2020, 11:05 AM
i two things are exactly try the same.


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:kewl::kewl::rotflmao::deadhorse::faga::faga::wall :

mabe you"ll do better with pictures

Jim in CT
11-30-2020, 11:31 AM
:kewl::kewl::rotflmao::deadhorse::faga::faga::wall :

mabe you"ll do better with pictures

that was gibberish on my part.

no two things are identical. doesn’t mean nothing is comparable.

gore didn’t get the result he wanted on election day, so he sought remedy through the courts. that’s exactly what trump is doing, and trump so far isn’t faring better than gore did.

if you want to say trump shouldn’t be saying the election was stolen, i agree 100%. if you want to say he shouldn’t be seeking remedy in the courts, then unless you said the same thing about gore, you’re a hypocrite.
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wdmso
11-30-2020, 12:24 PM
that was gibberish on my part.

no two things are identical. doesn’t mean nothing is comparable.

gore didn’t get the result he wanted on election day, so he sought remedy through the courts. that’s exactly what trump is doing, and trump so far isn’t faring better than gore did.

if you want to say trump shouldn’t be saying the election was stolen, i agree 100%. if you want to say he shouldn’t be seeking remedy in the courts, then unless you said the same thing about gore, you’re a hypocrite.
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Jim trump is not doing what Gore did in Court he is only seeking remedy in states he Lost by bigger margins then he won in 2016

Trump's legal team to hold public hearing with Arizona Republicans on election integrity they are not trying to win in court they are just fanning the fires with lies and hearsay .. again nothing of the sort was displayed by gore or Bush


this is what he is fostering in his base and in republican circles

these are supporters comments

The SCOTUS and the electoral college vote, is the last line of preventing this mass steal from the left. After that, war.


"Enemies foreign and domestic"

We need to remember these words because we the people are under attack from the enemies within

Got Stripers
11-30-2020, 12:27 PM
ok. so suing to contest an election is ok for a challenger ( who was VP) but not the incumbent?

please explain that distinction? best of luck?
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Thirty baseless law suits to date, come on Jim when is enough is enough and Trump is still claiming this entire election was rigged. The guy is a conspiracy theory nut job and I'm beginning to think you might be one, despite you continuing to say you don't defend Trump; which by the way is a joke.

Jim in CT
11-30-2020, 12:54 PM
Thirty baseless law suits to date, come on Jim when is enough is enough and Trump is still claiming this entire election was rigged. The guy is a conspiracy theory nut job and I'm beginning to think you might be one, despite you continuing to say you don't defend Trump; which by the way is a joke.

there’s a fatal flaw in your logic. none of you , not one of you, stated that he had the right, as gore did, to file the first suit. when he filed his first suit, every one if you claimed
it was the end of our democracy. as soon as he asked the first question, you all said he had no legitimate right.

prove me wrong. show me a post from any of the liberals here, who said “now now, we were ok with gore filing suit, trump had the same right.”

show me where any one of you said that?
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Jim in CT
11-30-2020, 12:54 PM
Jim trump is not doing what Gore did in Court he is only seeking remedy in states he Lost by bigger margins then he won in 2016

Trump's legal team to hold public hearing with Arizona Republicans on election integrity they are not trying to win in court they are just fanning the fires with lies and hearsay .. again nothing of the sort was displayed by gore or Bush


this is what he is fostering in his base and in republican circles

these are supporters comments

The SCOTUS and the electoral college vote, is the last line of preventing this mass steal from the left. After that, war.


"Enemies foreign and domestic"

We need to remember these words because we the people are under attack from the enemies within

so what’s the largest margin of victory, for which you think it’s ok to sue? what gore and stacy abrams
did was fine?

how about Hilary telling biden never to concede under any circumstances, to never stop dragging it out? is that supporting democracy?
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Got Stripers
11-30-2020, 01:04 PM
there’s a fatal flaw in your logic. none of you , not one of you, stated that he had the right, as gore did, to file the first suit. when he filed his first suit, every one if you claimed
it was the end of our democracy. as soon as he asked the first question, you all said he had no legitimate right.

prove me wrong. show me a post from any of the liberals here, who said “now now, we were ok with gore filing suit, trump had the same right.”

show me where any one of you said that?
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Nobody said he had the right, because we are all pretty aware that every American has the right to bring suit if they have a case. There is a point, which this nut reached a long time ago, where you are just wasting the courts time when you bring case after case with no proof or evidence to support you case.

Jim in CT
11-30-2020, 01:16 PM
Nobody said he had the right, because we are all pretty aware that every American has the right to bring suit if they have a case. There is a point, which this nut reached a long time ago, where you are just wasting the courts time when you bring case after case with no proof or evidence to support you case.

sorry, you a acted like it was the end of democracy. like everything else with this guy, you immediately went to the most deranged extreme. you went berserk on day one. so you can’t later claim that you were ok until it was excessive.

and his words have been reckless. his actions are harmless and exactly what hilary told Biden to do.
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Pete F.
11-30-2020, 01:19 PM
Most Americans early on read the story of the boy who cried wolf.
Here it is in case since apparently you missed it, courtesy of the Library of Congress.
http://read.gov/aesop/043.html

The Citrus Caligula has been claiming that elections are rigged continuously since his first Primary. If you need there are tweets and video.
That is one of the reasons there was a record turnout in this election, people were warned that if it was close the Bad Orange man would steal the election.
He said it out loud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFzi5TmAjRE

spence
11-30-2020, 01:22 PM
his actions are harmless and exactly what hilary told Biden to do.
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Even you aren't crazy enough to believe this.

Got Stripers
11-30-2020, 01:31 PM
sorry, you a acted like it was the end of democracy. like everything else with this guy, you immediately went to the most deranged extreme. you went berserk on day one. so you can’t later claim that you were ok until it was excessive.

and his words have been reckless. his actions are harmless and exactly what hilary told Biden to do.
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Please go find one statement from me where I said anything Trump was doing was the end of democracy, if you going to attempt to quote someone, better have the evidence........ooooooh who acts like that?

Pete F.
11-30-2020, 01:33 PM
sorry, you a acted like it was the end of democracy. like everything else with this guy, you immediately went to the most deranged extreme. you went berserk on day one. so you can’t later claim that you were ok until it was excessive.

and his words have been reckless. his actions are toxic to democracy and exactly what Putin told him to do.
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Fixed it for you, you ought to get off the OANN Pablum

https://www.lawfareblog.com/trumps-tweets-attacking-election-echo-russian-trolls

wdmso
11-30-2020, 03:32 PM
so what’s the largest margin of victory, for which you think it’s ok to sue? what gore and stacy abrams
did was fine?

how about Hilary telling biden never to concede under any circumstances, to never stop dragging it out? is that supporting democracy?
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Jims and trumps logic if we think there was fraud and our online hot line have people willing to say their was fraud which is about every Trump voter (they dont need evidence they just know it happened Q said so )all ballots for democratic areas should be throw out..

Trump and his team are magically looking to throw out just enough ballots in swing counties he lost, no fraud in counties he won?? and only in states he lost A little odd dont ya think :kewl:

And whos Hilary what power does she have what lawsuits has she filed ? I only care what Biden or Trump says

wdmso
11-30-2020, 06:32 PM
Trump tweet. Why won’t Governor @BrianKempGA, the hapless Governor of Georgia, use his emergency powers, which can be easily done, to overrule his obstinate Secretary of State, and do a match of signatures on envelopes. It will be a “goldmine” of fraud, and we will easily WIN the state....

...
1 he doesn’t have emergency powers to do Trumps bidding to it’s not legal


Yep Trumps a law and order President lol
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wdmso
12-01-2020, 03:01 PM
US attorney general finds 'no voter fraud that could overturn election'

Pete F.
12-01-2020, 03:59 PM
ROTFLMAO

On Parler, Bill Mitchell calls Bill Barr “a deep state snake and Bush plant.”
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Got Stripers
12-01-2020, 04:12 PM
When Bill Barr says it's over I guess it's official, but you know Trump isn't going to let it go.

Pete F.
12-01-2020, 04:28 PM
The Emperor was down to nothing but thong and Barr just whipped it off.

(Apologies for that mental image.)

wdmso
12-02-2020, 09:03 PM
Trump's former national security advisor Flynn. shared a message asking the president to suspend the Constitution, impose martial law, and hold a new election
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Got Stripers
12-03-2020, 07:03 AM
Trump's former national security advisor Flynn. shared a message asking the president to suspend the Constitution, impose martial law, and hold a new election
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Well that pardon came with terms of course, it’s unbelievable the extremes Trump and his supporters are willing to do to hold on to power. Covid running rampant, the CDC suggesting we could reach 400,000 dead by February and all Trump and his minions talk about is non existent wide spread voter fraud. It’s actually a bit scary to watch what this nut is going to do in his final days. Trump has shown his true colors throughout his four years, but never any clearer than now.

Pete F.
12-03-2020, 07:13 AM
At last, some systematic voter fraud

“If that means changing your address for the next two months,so be it.I’m doing that. I’m moving to Georgia.”Our 6 investigation reveals deleted video-a FL attorney telling GOP members how to move to GA,vote in runoffs. It’s illegal.There’s more and an investigation.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/florida-attorney-under-investigation-registering-vote-georgia-encouraging-others-do-same/L6LTC2AHBFDMXPOTZKVMO5ESJQ/
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