I guess I don't share the fatalist view of this apparent dark date in our history....

"The President demanding the VP to defy the Constitution so he can stay in power."

if the VP does something unconstitutional...then he should be held accountable and if the president demands the VP do something unconstitutional, he should also be held accountable


"Many Republican members of Congress rallying around this otherwise lame duck President, who would be otherwise be leaving office in two weeks, to impede the succession of power. "

they have the right to rally around the president, if they do anything unconstitutional they should be held responsible...there is an article on NBC that points out that the democrats have set the precedent in all of the instances that they currently whine about


"Trump supporters rallying around the Capitol, some expected to be armed. "

Rallying around the Capitol is Constitutional, I don't know if being armed is legal there...I saw an ad from a new member of Congress stating she's planning to concealed carry during her time in Washington, seemed legit...if any of them do anything illegal or unconstitutional they should be held accountable...hopefully they will be more peaceful than the "peaceful protests" that we've enjoyed from the left over the past year with very little accountability


"Trump giving a speech in the morning and possibly joining his supporters. "

I believe this is perfectly Constitutional and legal....


"The leader of the Proud Boys arrested on weapons charges in DC and told to "stay away."

oh good...so they won't have to worry about him causing any trouble :scream:


"A threat over the air controller frequency said a plane was going to be flown into the Capitol tomorrow, likely while the Congress is assembled to read the votes from the electoral college. This to avenge the killing of Iranian General Soleimani exactly a year ago. "

Clearly trump's fault :hihi:



"Kenosha Wisconsin likely to see rioting after no charges were brought against a police officer in a shooting last August."

why would they riot and whose fault is that? hopefully the rioters will be held accountable but we'll likely be told it's all perfectly justified


"And there is always the Georgia Senate elections today, with results possibly not being known until tomorrow. Only the control of the Senate and a continuation of a checks and balance within Congress at stake."

according to dementia joe...$2000 checks are at stake :tm:


"Any powder kegs I left out?"

I bet we could come up with a bunch but what is the point of fretting over things that have not and are unlikely to happen? I bet pete could come up with a bunch of potential "bombshells"


"Oh, maybe a stack of pardons to round out the afternoon?"

those could be fun....maybe he'll pardon hunter


it will be interesting to see how we define "prosperity" going forward....

I heard a left leaning commentator on tv recently state very emphatically...."science trumps freedom"....I found that an interesting statement, don't recall seeing anything in the Constitution regarding science superseding freedom

Do you think he meant posterity?

Let’s lock this thread too��

I prefer free speech.....

Do you think he meant posterity?

Let’s lock this thread too��

Ahh, yup. I screwed up. Meant posterity.:love: See if I can get my Republican operatives into the locked thread to correct my faux pas!

I prefer free speech.....

And I prefer when a thread isn't taken off the rails to serve someone else's agenda. I have had a few that ended up so far off the original thought discussion that suggesting a lock was the only viable option to survive the maelstrom this forum has become.
So now you have taken the time to address my post in your own thread, and I appreciate that. I could have responded when you posted, as I too was up watching the returns from Georgia dribble in, but I chose to go back to sleep.

So now you have taken the time to address my post in your own thread, and I appreciate that. I could have responded when you posted, as I too was up watching the returns from Georgia dribble in, but I chose to go back to sleep.

I didn’t watch anything regarding the Georgia returns. I start work pretty early in the morning....:btu:



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I guess I don't share the fatalist view of this apparent dark date in our history....

"The President demanding the VP to defy the Constitution so he can stay in power."

if the VP does something unconstitutional...then he should be held accountable and if the president demands the VP do something unconstitutional, he should also be held accountable


"Many Republican members of Congress rallying around this otherwise lame duck President, who would be otherwise be leaving office in two weeks, to impede the succession of power. "

they have the right to rally around the president, if they do anything unconstitutional they should be held responsible...there is an article on NBC that points out that the democrats have set the precedent in all of the instances that they currently whine about


"Trump supporters rallying around the Capitol, some expected to be armed. "

Rallying around the Capitol is Constitutional, I don't know if being armed is legal there...I saw an ad from a new member of Congress stating she's planning to concealed carry during her time in Washington, seemed legit...if any of them do anything illegal or unconstitutional they should be held accountable...hopefully they will be more peaceful than the "peaceful protests" that we've enjoyed from the left over the past year with very little accountability


"Trump giving a speech in the morning and possibly joining his supporters. "

I believe this is perfectly Constitutional and legal....


"The leader of the Proud Boys arrested on weapons charges in DC and told to "stay away."

oh good...so they won't have to worry about him causing any trouble :scream:


"A threat over the air controller frequency said a plane was going to be flown into the Capitol tomorrow, likely while the Congress is assembled to read the votes from the electoral college. This to avenge the killing of Iranian General Soleimani exactly a year ago. "

Clearly trump's fault :hihi:



"Kenosha Wisconsin likely to see rioting after no charges were brought against a police officer in a shooting last August."

why would they riot and whose fault is that? hopefully the rioters will be held accountable but we'll likely be told it's all perfectly justified


"And there is always the Georgia Senate elections today, with results possibly not being known until tomorrow. Only the control of the Senate and a continuation of a checks and balance within Congress at stake."

according to dementia joe...$2000 checks are at stake :tm:


"Any powder kegs I left out?"

I bet we could come up with a bunch but what is the point of fretting over things that have not and are unlikely to happen? I bet pete could come up with a bunch of potential "bombshells"


"Oh, maybe a stack of pardons to round out the afternoon?"

those could be fun....maybe he'll pardon hunter


it will be interesting to see how we define "prosperity" going forward....

I heard a left leaning commentator on tv recently state very emphatically...."science trumps freedom"....I found that an interesting statement, don't recall seeing anything in the Constitution regarding science superseding freedom


Are you happy now??????

Are you happy now??????

Oh trust me Scott is extremely happy right now, like Trump he is getting a kick out of a Trump thug sitting at Nancy's desk in the capitol building.

Oh trust me Scott is extremely happy right now, like Trump he is getting a kick out of a Trump thug sitting at Nancy's desk in the capitol building.

Does he have that giant gavel she likes to wave around?
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Does he have that giant gavel she likes to wave around?
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I know it's a tough day, Trump going out, Moscow Mitch becoming a minority leader, probably time for a stiff drink.

Well I think going forward, anyone posting as a Trump supporter can rightly be lumped in with the riotous mob that laid siege to the Capitol after being revved up by the sitting President.... His taped comments were nothing but a half baked excuse to answer the call for peaceful end to the riot. In my view, you support Trump, the man who incited the events of today, you are choosing against our democracy. Period. This is all on him. You really want to get in that boat? You can stand shoulder to shoulder with the Proud Boys.

Well I think going forward, anyone posting as a Trump supporter can rightly be lumped in with the riotous mob that laid siege to the Capitol after being revved up by the sitting President.... His taped comments were nothing but a half baked excuse to answer the call for peaceful end to the riot. In my view, you support Trump, the man who incited the events of today, you are choosing against our democracy. Period. This is all on him. You really want to get in that boat? You can stand shoulder to shoulder with the Proud Boys.

Sadly there are those that will hang on to the railing as the ship sinks.

You can stand shoulder to shoulder with the Proud Boys.



According to Biden they are the “poor boys”. Which sounds a bit more amusing
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According to Biden they are the “poor boys”. Which sounds a bit more amusing
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You have resorted to being nothing more than a troll.... I wish you an earned time out from this forum in the near future.... Just my point of view.

You have resorted to being nothing more than a troll.... I wish you an earned time out from this forum in the near future.... Just my point of view.

He is a putz!

. I wish you an earned time out from this forum in the near future.... Just my point of view.[/QUOTE]

For what?
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He is a putz!

Thanks for the ❤️
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You have resorted to being nothing more than a troll.... I wish you an earned time out from this forum in the near future.... Just my point of view.

He's been that way for a while. Sad
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Well I think going forward, anyone posting as a Trump supporter can rightly be lumped in with the riotous mob that laid siege to the Capitol after being revved up by the sitting President.... His taped comments were nothing but a half baked excuse to answer the call for peaceful end to the riot. In my view, you support Trump, the man who incited the events of today, you are choosing against our democracy. Period. This is all on him. You really want to get in that boat? You can stand shoulder to shoulder with the Proud Boys.
It's too bad that many Republicans support Trump over the Republican party and for what it used to stand for. And in some ways they support him more than they support the Constitution and the country.
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He's been that way for a while. Sad
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Feel better?
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[QUOTE=PaulS;1207740]He's been that way for a while. Sad
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Feel better?
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I have no feeling either way. I just think it's sad what you've become over the last four years.
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I have no feeling either way. I just think it's sad what you've become over the last four years.
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I’ll get some help😁
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Oh you will need help, losing the White House and the senate, maybe a group therapy with some of the other brain dead conspiracy drunk thugs at the capital building.
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Oh you will need help, losing the White House and the senate, maybe a group therapy with some of the other brain dead conspiracy drunk thugs at the capital building.
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I have a funny story about my last therapy session....

Well I’m encouraged you are in therapy clearly you need something.
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Well I’m encouraged you are in therapy clearly you need something.
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no..my last session...that was a while ago :bl:

over/under on arrest number?

I say 65

over/under on arrest number?

I say 65

it was over 200 for the Kavanaugh hearings

over/under on arrest number?

I say 65

I’ll take the over
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Nobody hiding faces a lot will be slapped in the face with reality soon.
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I’ll take the over
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Will that be before or after 7pm?:lurk:

Will that be before or after 7pm?:lurk:

I’ll take the after :-)
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I hope your both wrong by a multiple of 20
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You do know what "The Over" is, right?
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Actually they think they don’t have to worry because they think Tweety can pardon them
Surprise
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You do know what "The Over" is, right?
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Thanks, I do.65/20=3.25
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Thanks, I do.65/20=3.25
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Sometimes you make my head hurt, Paul......

Speaking of odds...What are the odds that articles of impeachment are filed here? I think they go up given the report that Trump rebuffed calling in the National Guard for hours, despite pleas from his inner circle.

I think that Republican leadership has gone to Trump and told him they want his resignation, he said #^&#^&#^&#^& you.
Now they’re considering the legal options that will remove him while doing as little collateral damage as possible, because it’s about power not what’s good for the country
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You do know what "The Over" is, right?
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This went downhill quickly!
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Thanks, I do.65/20=3.25
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Exhibit B
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over/under on arrest number?

I say 65

Do the math, liberal dummies!
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Do the math, liberal dummies!
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If I was as scummy as you I would show you some of the emails I get about you
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Sometimes you make my head hurt, Paul......
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Not my problem you don't understand. I would say Jim the actuary understood what I was saying
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scummy

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this is such a funny word

25th Amendment section 4..... Yep That Constitution is a pretty well done document.

Be it removal, censure, or impeachment, I think Congress could possibly unite, as would the Republican Party, to act now, and by holding Trump accountable and making sure he cannot reappear in a future election. His hours long rebuff of calling for the National Guard may be the final straw.

I wish this all hadn't taken place. I would rather suffer the ridicule from any and all for naming a thread January 6, 2021, and having none of it come to bear.

If nothing else, maybe these next days end up being the beginning of our Congress, working together, being able to govern for the people, for the people.

25th Amendment section 4..... Yep That Constitution is a pretty well done document.

Be it removal, censure, or impeachment, I think Congress could possibly unite, as would the Republican Party, to act now, and by holding Trump accountable and making sure he cannot reappear in a future election. His hours long rebuff of calling for the National Guard may be the final straw.

I wish this all hadn't taken place. I would rather suffer the ridicule from any and all for naming a thread January 6, 2021, and having none of it come to bear.

If nothing else, maybe these next days end up being the beginning of our Congress, working together, being able to govern for the people, for the people.


what doesn't kill you makes you a stronger...right?

25th Amendment section 4..... Yep That Constitution is a pretty well done document.



It is, but especially these days it is important to recognize that the constitution existed for 179 years before the 25th amendment. Thank you Thomas Jefferson for your wisdom.

“I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.”

If I was as scummy as you I would show you some of the emails I get about you
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This way you could reveal the real me. To me!👖
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I wish this all hadn't taken place. I would rather suffer the ridicule from any and all for naming a thread January 6, 2021, and having none of it come to bear.



don't give yourself too much credit...your batting average wasn't very good:jester:

So many devastating possibilities aligning...

The President demanding the VP to defy the Constitution so he can stay in power.
Pence didn't defy the Constitution

Many Republican members of Congress rallying around this otherwise lame duck President, who would be otherwise be leaving office in two weeks, to impede the succession of power. he'll be leaving in two weeks... succession of power not impeded

Trump supporters rallying around the Capitol, some expected to be armed. yup... there was a rally


Trump giving a speech in the morning and possibly joining his supporters. he gave a speech

The leader of the Proud Boys arrested on weapons charges in DC and told to "stay away." not sure if this is a prediction or just stating fact again

A threat over the air controller frequency said a plane was going to be flown into the Capitol tomorrow, likely while the Congress is assembled to read the votes from the electoral college.
This to avenge the killing of Iranian General Soleimani exactly a year ago. didn't see any planes in all the footage

Kenosha Wisconsin likely to see rioting after no charges were brought against a police officer in a shooting last August.
if there were riots there, they didn't make the news.....there were riots in Portland though...shocker...


And there is always the Georgia Senate elections today, with results possibly not being known until tomorrow. they are known


Only the control of the Senate and a continuation of a checks and balance within Congress at stake. Any powder kegs I left out?

Oh, maybe a stack of pardons to round out the afternoon? did he pardon anyone?

I think that makes you 2 for 8 ...I didn't count the poor boys

over/under on arrest number?

I say 65

differing reports....somewhere between 13 and 53...26 in the Capitol building..you'd think it would have been much higher given the level of panic from the media types....

how many people were there would you estimate?

just for comparison....

Police injured, more than 200 arrested at Trump inauguration protests in DC

By Gregory Krieg, CNN
Sat January 21, 2017




glad there was none of this...

Pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails
Tweety has his private army now
“Big protest in D.C. on January 6th,” Mr. Trump tweeted on Dec. 19, just one of several of his tweets promoting the day. “Be there, will be wild!”
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just one of several of his tweets promoting the day. “Be there, will be wild!”

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he wasn't lying....

news says police collected 5 weapons....doesn't sound like a well-regulated militia

D.C. Metropolitan Police Chief Robert Contee confirms that law enforcement found 2 pipe bombs, as well as a cooler containing Molotov cocktails, during the response to Wednesday's violence.
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D.C. Metropolitan Police Chief Robert Contee confirms that law enforcement found 2 pipe bombs, as well as a cooler containing Molotov cocktails, during the response to Wednesday's violence.
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cocktails in a cooler...no way?!?!

This way you could reveal the real me. To me!��
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I think you and everyone who knows you, knows the real you.

cocktails in a cooler...no way?!?!

Don't worry some fool who is a true believer is making more and better bombs

Statements from Parler

Yes, Trump I will stand by you, I will swing from the gallows for treason with you if I have to

Trump always, even if he starts killing thousands of Americans. I trust his judgement. I know they would deserve it. God made him. He can't be wrong.

President Donald Trump spent Wednesday telling people he was happy that the Republicans David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler lost their Senate races in Georgia, the New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman reported.

Statements from Parler

Yes, Trump I will stand by you, I will swing from the gallows for treason with you if I have to

Trump always, even if he starts killing thousands of Americans. I trust his judgement. I know they would deserve it. God made him. He can't be wrong.

you should notify the FBI....:kewl:

Parler gets photo ID from users. Wouldn’t it be hilarious if the FBI turned out to be running parler as a honeypot?

Parler gets photo ID from users. Wouldn’t it be hilarious if the FBI turned out to be running parler as a honeypot?

you are probably the only one here who knows anything about parlor...

Parler gets photo ID from users. Wouldn’t it be hilarious if the FBI turned out to be running parler as a honeypot?

you are probably the only one here who knows anything about parlor...

Google is not that hard

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+parler+app&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS837US837&oq=what+is+parler&aqs=chrome.0.0i457j69i57j0l6.3422j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

MAGA people planned this openly on social media. They videoed themselves during the act. They showed their faces. They're being identified.

Update: Already THREE Republican state representatives have been identified, two from PA and one from WV.

differing reports....somewhere between 13 and 53...26 in the Capitol building..you'd think it would have been much higher given the level of panic from the media types....

how many people were there would you estimate?

just for comparison....

Police injured, more than 200 arrested at Trump inauguration protests in DC

By Gregory Krieg, CNN
Sat January 21, 2017




glad there was none of this...

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/capitol-riot-photos-inside-trump.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQkVaVrITyg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO3TnWPCuQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcASKUd7KTo

over/under on arrest number?

I say 65

I’ll take the over
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Do the math, liberal dummies!
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From the Washington Post;

D.C. police said they arrested 69 people from at least 20 states and the District from Wednesday afternoon through early Thursday, most on curfew and unlawful entry charges.

From the Washington Post;

D.C. police said they arrested 69 people from at least 20 states and the District from Wednesday afternoon through early Thursday, most on curfew and unlawful entry charges.

What do I win :hihi:
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Waiting for Dangles to certify the win.....

Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin says they are looking at all actors involved in the unrest at the US Capitol on Wednesday, including the role President Donald Trump played in inciting the crowd.

Waiting for Dangles to certify the win.....

Waiting for R2D2 to ask mod to lock thread.😭
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Waiting for R2D2 to ask mod to lock thread.😭
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Apparently I asked you to mock the thread....:hihi:

Waiting for R2D2 to ask mod to lock thread.😭
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the totalitarians only want their own threads locked, to keep the rabble out....it's like pelosi who rolls her eyes when your business is burnt to the ground but gets enraged and indignant when some nut is sitting with his feet up on HER desk :rotf2:...servant of the people and all that stuff....

Well I think going forward, anyone posting as a Trump supporter can rightly be lumped in with the riotous mob that laid siege to the Capitol You can stand shoulder to shoulder with the Proud Boys.



can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules :uhuh:

can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules :uhuh:
Never pictured Ross as a drama queen but I guess this is part of cancel culture.
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can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules :uhuh:

What happened in DC is not comparable to burning or looting of other cities. They tried to overthrow the government of the US in broad daylight. Tweety spent months encouraging it. Don’t #^&#^&#^&#^& with me with your “logic.” You’re terrible at it.
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can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules :uhuh:

What happened in DC is not comparable to burning or looting of other cities. They tried to overthrow the government of the US in broad daylight. Tweety spent months encouraging it. Don’t #^&#^&#^&#^& with me with your “logic.” You’re terrible at it.
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I think some of what Scott says here is worth considering. Yes, Pete, it was on a totally different scale, but both "protests" resulted in illegal and criminal activity causing loss and death. After reviewing some tape of comments made by Kamala, Pelosi, and other Dems, I think we can put their allegiance directly in the ANTIFA and BLM fold...(I wonder if Kamala is going to solicit/pay bail for anyone who was arrested for breaching the Capitol...) It was put together by Fox, but it was compelling. I try to view both sides equally. Flipping from CNN to Fox can make my head spin a little too fast though. Takes great effort to discern the fact and context from the emotional, condescending agenda of both channels.

Like I said earlier, peaceful protest is our right, I don’t care what the cause is your exercising your freedom of speech in, criminal activity doesn’t know left from right only right and illegal. Those that looted and burned in BLM protests are criminals as are all that broke into the capital building and assaulted capital police and vandalized the building. In both examples, those crossing the line detract from the message the majority are trying to send, you then become a band of thugs.

I think there is a big difference between supporting a movement and inciting the riot, which is exactly what Trump, Jared and Rudy did, unless English isn’t your primary language.

Flipping from CNN to Fox can make my head spin a little too fast though. Takes great effort to discern the fact and context from the emotional, condescending agenda of both channels.

I just watched 30 seconds of Fox broadcast. They were showing this quote about the capitol that some nut wrote for the NY Post

"It has bestowed the great gift of the moral high ground on the most undeserving people in the world: Joe Biden and the left.

They now have a free pass to persecute their ideological enemies while enacting their pet cultural Marxist projects and changing this country irrevocably for the worst."

Katie Pavlich, who apparently is a fox commentator, was asked what she thought "Most of that is true, but I disagree that they have a free pass."

So she agrees that the most undeserving people in the world are Joe Biden and the left. She believes they will persecute "their ideological enemies" (which is greatly ironic given the current administration that she almost certainly supports). She agrees with making a parallel between Biden's agenda and Marxism. If 80% of nutters are getting their info from these sources or worse, it clearly explains where we are. We will never be a functioning society when this is the rhetoric that a substantial and powerful (see gerrymandering and electoral college) portion of the country hears and believes.

I just watched 30 seconds of Fox broadcast. They were showing this quote about the capitol that some nut wrote for the NY Post

"It has bestowed the great gift of the moral high ground on the most undeserving people in the world: Joe Biden and the left.

They now have a free pass to persecute their ideological enemies while enacting their pet cultural Marxist projects and changing this country irrevocably for the worst."

Katie Pavlich, who apparently is a fox commentator, was asked what she thought "Most of that is true, but I disagree that they have a free pass."

So she agrees that the most undeserving people in the world are Joe Biden and the left. She believes they will persecute "their ideological enemies" (which is greatly ironic given the current administration that she almost certainly supports). She agrees with making a parallel between Biden's agenda and Marxism. If 80% of nutters are getting their info from these sources or worse, it clearly explains where we are. We will never be a functioning society when this is the rhetoric that a substantial and powerful (see gerrymandering and electoral college) portion of the country hears and believes.

Shes saying Biden is undeserving of the moral high ground. And shes right. When Biden tells a roomful of blacks "Republicans want to put y'all back in chains", and says blacks ain't really black unless they support him...well, hes got the right to say those things, but he can't say those things and THEN claim to be the one who's going to bring us together.

Trumps personality was very insulting and polarizing. I totally get why democrats hated him, heck, I hate him as a person too.

What democrats struggle to understand, is that Republicans don't like taking cheap elbows, either. Nobody has delivered more stupid insults than Trump. But democrat leadership has come close. They spent the last 4 years insisting that republicans are a bunch of racist, gay-bashing, sexist, xenophobic cave dwellers, vilifying the police, etc. Fine, they can say that. But again, don't then approach me with open arms and call for unity. It doesn't work that way. You can't have it both ways.

Would have been nice if maybe Bush and Obama (who are friendly) could have a press conference together, remind us of whatever it is that we have left in common.

There will be no unity under Biden (or Pelosi, Schumer, etc), his calls for unity are only slightly less absurd than Trump calls for unity.

can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules :uhuh:

A DC Police Dept officer says off-duty police officers and members of the military, who were among the rioters, flashed their badges and I.D. cards as they attempted to overrun the US Capitol.

A DC Police Dept officer says off-duty police officers and members of the military, who were among the rioters, flashed their badges and I.D. cards as they attempted to overrun the US Capitol.

Which says what, about who? Except those individuals. Can we assume you wouldn't call 911 if, say, someone stole your copy of Chairman Maos Little Red Book?

Little obsessed aren’t you?
Where would you turn if your copy of Mein Kampf turned up missing?
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What happened in DC is not comparable to burning or looting of other cities. They tried to overthrow the government of the US in broad daylight. Tweety spent months encouraging it. Don’t #^&#^&#^&#^& with me with your “logic.” You’re terrible at it.


They tried to overthrow the government of the US? Can you explain how they would have been able to accomplish that?

On the other hand, you're very comfortable in overthrowing a duly elected President. In fact you tried your damnedest to help that cause. And, rather than rationally show with actual proof that such a thing should be done, you constantly lied, misrepresented, resorted to innuendo, conjecture, conspiracy theories and incessantly spewed divisive hate--the kind that was being peddled by the radical Dems and their complicit media.

It was exactly the hateful divisiveness that led to what happened in the capitol. Your kind of malevolence is part of the reason we are at the point of another sort of civil war and possible break up of this nation.

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They tried to overthrow the government of the US in broad daylight.





They tried to overthrow the government of the US?



this is correct...unarmed and wearing halloween costumes...

What happened in DC is not comparable to burning or looting of other cities. They tried to overthrow the government of the US in broad daylight. Tweety spent months encouraging it. Don’t #^&#^&#^&#^& with me with your “logic.” You’re terrible at it.
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They tried to overthrow the government of the US? Can you explain how they would have been able to accomplish that?

On the other hand, you're very comfortable in overthrowing a duly elected President. In fact you tried your damnedest to help that cause. And, rather than rationally show with actual proof that such a thing should be done, you constantly lied, misrepresented, resorted to innuendo, conjecture, conspiracy theories and incessantly spewed divisive hate--the kind that was being peddled by the radical Dems and their complicit media.

Obstruction is over, now the truth will find daylight and no longer be covered up by this administration.

It was exactly the hateful divisiveness that led to what happened in the capitol. Your kind of malevolence is part of the reason we are at the point of another sort of civil war and possible break up of this nation.

this is correct...unarmed and wearing halloween costumes...

So the deplorables are in the same situation as Gore voters in 2000, Kerry voters in 2004, McCain voters in 2008, Romney voters in 2012, and Clinton voters in 2016, but they insist on being treated like special snowflakes whose upset must imminently cause the destruction of U.S. democracy.

And yes, I think that what they were led to do is deplorable.

Obstruction is over, now the truth will find daylight and no longer be covered up by this administration.

There was no obstruction. None was proven. There were "unfounded" and "baseless" accusations of it. Which were part of the constant accusatory attack meant to overthrow a duly elected President.

And yes, I think that what they were led to do is deplorable.

Yes, the constant leftist characterization of Trump, Trump supporters, Republicans, "Conservatives" and "Right Wingers" as racists, stupid, NAZIs, women haters, etc., as well as the promotion of identity politics, "white Privilege," language control, forced behavior, and other such nonsense, were deplorable factors that led to what they did.

Yes, the constant leftist characterization of Trump, Trump supporters, Republicans, "Conservatives" and "Right Wingers" as racists, stupid, NAZIs, women haters, etc., as well as the promotion of identity politics, "white Privilege," language control, forced behavior, and other such nonsense, were deplorable factors that led to what they did.

It is not by chance that most of the individuals who descended on the nation’s capital were white, nor is it an accident that they align with the Republican Party and this president. Moreover, it is not a coincidence that symbols of white racism, including the Confederate flag, were present and prominently displayed.

They are a dangerous mob of grievous white people worried that their position in the status hierarchy is threatened by a multiracial coalition of Americans who brought Biden to power and defeated Trump, whom back in 2017 Ta-Nehisi Coates called the first white president. Making this provocative point, Coates wrote, “It is often said that Trump has no real ideology, which is not true — his ideology is white supremacy, in all its truculent and sanctimonious power.” So, when we think about those who gathered in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday and who will surely continue their advance in opposition to democratic rule, let it not be lost on us that they do not simply come in defense of Donald Trump. They come in defense of white supremacy.

They are a dangerous mob of grievous white people worried that their position in the status hierarchy is threatened by a multiracial coalition of Americans who brought Biden to power and defeated Trump, whom back in 2017 Ta-Nehisi Coates called the first white president. Making this provocative point, Coates wrote, “It is often said that Trump has no real ideology, which is not true — his ideology is white supremacy, in all its truculent and sanctimonious power.” So, when we think about those who gathered in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday and who will surely continue their advance in opposition to democratic rule, let it not be lost on us that they do not simply come in defense of Donald Trump. They come in defense of white supremacy.

This is the kind of stupidity that is the problem
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This is the kind of stupidity that is the problem
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i was wondering when someone would inject racism into this. everything republicans do, is racist. supporting a president who got black unemployment to its lowest level ever, who increased funding to black colleges, who advocated for criminal justice reform and school
choice...is racist, according to pete.

really effed in the head.
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This is the kind of stupidity that is the problem
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i was wondering when someone would inject racism into this. everything republicans do, is racist. supporting a president who got black unemployment to its lowest level ever, who increased funding to black colleges, who advocated for criminal justice reform and school
choice...is racist, according to pete.

really effed in the head.
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It is not by chance that most of the individuals who descended on the nation’s capital were white, nor is it an accident that they align with the Republican Party and this president. Moreover, it is not a coincidence that symbols of white racism, including the Confederate flag, were present and prominently displayed.

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M.- Otero County Commissioner Couy Griffin attended the Wednesday's pro-Trump event at the U.S. Capitol.

He posted a series of videos during the event, calling for additional rioting.

Griffin, the founder of Cowboys for Trump, defended the actions of the rioters who stormed into the halls of Congress, damaged property and disrupted the democratic process of certifying the presidential election.

At one point, Griffin said when President-elect Biden is sworn in on Jan. 20, the rioters will return to mob the Capitol.

"Blood will run out of the building," he said.

Griffin added that he will plant a flag on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's desk.

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They are a dangerous mob of grievous white people worried that their position in the status hierarchy is threatened by a multiracial coalition of Americans who brought Biden to power and defeated Trump, whom back in 2017 Ta-Nehisi Coates called the first white president. Making this provocative point, Coates wrote, “It is often said that Trump has no real ideology, which is not true — his ideology is white supremacy, in all its truculent and sanctimonious power.” So, when we think about those who gathered in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday and who will surely continue their advance in opposition to democratic rule, let it not be lost on us that they do not simply come in defense of Donald Trump. They come in defense of white supremacy.

This is the kind of stupidity that is the problem
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Yeah, if Pete's views are in sync with Ta-Nehisi Coates's, that explains why they are warped. BTW Coates says, “Joe Biden shouldn’t be president.”

interesting view from a bernie supporter


https://www.mvtimes.com/2021/01/08/not-huge-angry-mob/

interesting view from a bernie supporter


https://www.mvtimes.com/2021/01/08/not-huge-angry-mob/

So, it was just like a typical BLM March?
Just whiter
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