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nightfighter 01-18-2021, 10:24 AM The drastic measures being taken with an overwhelming show of force to safeguard a presidential inauguration makes my head spin. Extremists on both sides are out of control. The fact that there is a need for 25,000 troops in place does give one pause as to whether there was a fair election, which I truly want to accept and believe. To see such show of force reminds me of what I recall seeing in Venezuela, Syria and Libya, not in my country... And then we have reports of infiltration by extremists within our troops we have brought in to protect the capital... But for now, from this seat, given what I have to digest and make my decisions, it is the extreme right and pro-Trump group that I see pushing us to a state of civil war. I don't buy the arguments that masks are are useless and just for lemmings. I don't see it as persecution and elimination of my freedom. I want the virus gone. I want the vaccine. I don't want to get COVID, as I have just heard my niece, a practicing PT, has tested positive. Hey, my work is now very restricted, BY ME, as I do not want it, nor can I afford to bring it home. So if you feel you must continue your verbal, written, or physical support of the current President, you are just fanning the flames of civil war, IMO. Time for you to decide what you want for this country is now.
I have a very bad feeling leading into this week. I hope no violence comes to pass. But if it does, I know where I will lay blame...
spence 01-18-2021, 10:37 AM I think the massive shows of force and that the FBI is feverously working to round up insurrectionists will hopefully dampen significant violence for the inauguration. They might just wait it out until the Guard goes home to lash out.
The Government has been telling us for years that militias and white nationalists are a massive threat to domestic security and Trump for the past 5 years have just been revving them up.
scottw 01-18-2021, 11:13 AM I think the massive shows of force and that the FBI is feverously working to round up insurrectionists will hopefully dampen significant violence for the inauguration. They might just wait it out until the Guard goes home to lash out.
The Government has been telling us for years that militias and white nationalists are a massive threat to domestic security and Trump for the past 5 years have just been revving them up.
yup....extremely dangerous
Sea Dangles 01-18-2021, 11:14 AM The drastic measures being taken with an overwhelming show of force to safeguard a presidential inauguration makes my head spin. Extremists on both sides are out of control. The fact that there is a need for 25,000 troops in place does give one pause as to whether there was a fair election, which I truly want to accept and believe. To see such show of force reminds me of what I recall seeing in Venezuela, Syria and Libya, not in my country... And then we have reports of infiltration by extremists within our troops we have brought in to protect the capital... But for now, from this seat, given what I have to digest and make my decisions, it is the extreme right and pro-Trump group that I see pushing us to a state of civil war. I don't buy the arguments that masks are are useless and just for lemmings. I don't see it as persecution and elimination of my freedom. I want the virus gone. I want the vaccine. I don't want to get COVID, as I have just heard my niece, a practicing PT, has tested positive. Hey, my work is now very restricted, BY ME, as I do not want it, nor can I afford to bring it home. So if you feel you must continue your verbal, written, or physical support of the current President, you are just fanning the flames of civil war, IMO. Time for you to decide what you want for this country is now.
I have a very bad feeling leading into this week. I hope no violence comes to pass. But if it does, I know where I will lay blame...
The good thing here is knowing who to blame.🥸
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nightfighter 01-18-2021, 02:04 PM yup....extremely dangerous
Scott, your inflammatory rhetoric, at least to me, is nothing short of attempting to incite the followers to physical violence, but at the same time you have posted here that you don't even like Trump.... Can't have it both ways. You have made yourself a primary target to those who would have law and order prevail here....
Sea Dangles 01-18-2021, 02:24 PM Scott, your inflammatory rhetoric, at least to me, is nothing short of attempting to incite the followers to physical violence, but at the same time you have posted here that you don't even like Trump.... Can't have it both ways. You have made yourself a primary target to those who would have law and order prevail here....
Downplaying an incident is not exactly inflammatory Ross.
However, implying somebody has made themselves a target..... 🎯
Different altogether.
nightfighter 01-18-2021, 03:41 PM And altogether different is utilizing one photo to "downplay" the overall actions of the mob that day too, Chris. I won't get panzied on this one so don't you try to defend his smarmy response. Nor do I need to repost a photo that has already been seen around the world that is more representative of what really took place.
And I will make it more clear. The instigator, by their very action/words/deeds, is always the first one to get taken out. If it is a confrontation, I don't go in to lose with losing tactics.
Sea Dangles 01-18-2021, 04:25 PM Sounds like more of what I have come to loathe about our recently fashionable cancel culture.
The real truth is likely somewhere in between any photo you can produce to counter the more humorous depiction,but I will assume you know that.
Furthermore,if you think Scott has the ability to incite anything but a giggle then you have lost a few mph off the heater.
scottw 01-18-2021, 04:46 PM Scott, your inflammatory rhetoric, at least to me, is nothing short of attempting to incite the followers to physical violence, but at the same time you have posted here that you don't even like Trump.... Can't have it both ways. You have made yourself a primary target to those who would have law and order prevail here....
inflammatory rhetoric?
dude...get some help:kewl:
hey Jim...please don't do anything violent ok??? :hee:
Got Stripers 01-18-2021, 05:27 PM I’m pretty sure there aren’t a lot of proud ‘boys, or Q’s or hard core white supremacy groups monitoring what is posted on this political board with what 6-8 people that activity participate. The more video’s and sound bites that are released, the more interviews take place, the more apparent these nut jobs saw Trumps rhetoric along with that of his supporters since loosing the election and certainly during the week ahead of the 6th, as a call to action. Since the sixth there have been several attempts by individuals to get by security, one armed and carrying 500+ rounds, pretty sure that’s not a peaceful protest attempt.
Taking him and others off Twitter may be considered cancel culture, but if they are using that platform to spread lies and misinformation, tough luck Chuck! Smoke signals might be their next best way to spread their BS.
scottw 01-18-2021, 05:32 PM I’m pretty sure there aren’t a lot of proud ‘boys, or Q’s or hard core white supremacy groups monitoring what is posted on this political board .
ya think? still don't know what Q is....
scottw 01-18-2021, 05:35 PM Since the sixth there have been several attempts by individuals to get by security, one armed and carrying 500+ rounds, pretty sure that’s not a peaceful protest attempt.
can you provide more specifics on these please? wouldn't want you spreading lies and misinformation... because I read the guy with the gun was released by the judge so it doesn't sound like he was deemed a threat unless the judge is a hard core trumplican Q following poor boy(or girl)...
spence 01-18-2021, 05:36 PM Scott, your inflammatory rhetoric, at least to me, is nothing short of attempting to incite the followers to physical violence, but at the same time you have posted here that you don't even like Trump.... Can't have it both ways. You have made yourself a primary target to those who would have law and order prevail here....
I think on a matter as serious as this, where our Republic is under attack, indifference or stupid snide mockery just plays into the hands of sympathizers...of which there certainly are on this site even if they're not vocal. Never imagined we'd get to the point where 25,000 Guardsman would be required just to hold an inauguration. Again, Trump didn't create all of this, but it's happening this week because of him.
scottw 01-18-2021, 05:37 PM I think on a matter as serious as this, where our Republic is under attack, indifference or stupid snide mockery just plays into the hands of sympathizers...of which there certainly are on this site even if they're not vocal.
And it's not just January 6th, it's the entire runup...
I'm sure if any were in DC they will be outed and have their site privileges revoked...
scottw 01-18-2021, 06:49 PM Since the sixth there have been several attempts by individuals to get by security, one armed and carrying 500+ rounds, pretty sure that’s not a peaceful protest attempt.
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“It was an honest mistake,” Beeler explained after being released. In a tear-filled interview, he said he has spent the last week working as hired security in downtown Washington ahead of the inauguration. He was running late to work and forgot that his firearm was in his truck when he left his home in Virginia, where he said he has a license to carry. He denied that he had more than 500 rounds of ammunition listed in his arrest report.
“I pulled up to a checkpoint after getting lost in D.C. because I’m a country boy,” he said. “I showed them the inauguration badge that was given to me.”
Beeler has been ordered not to return to the city except to appear in court or meet with his lawyer.
nightfighter 01-18-2021, 07:06 PM can you provide more specifics on these please? wouldn't want you spreading lies and misinformation... because I read the guy with the gun was released by the judge so it doesn't sound like he was deemed a threat unless the judge is a hard core trumplican Q following poor boy(or girl)...
Yup, he gets a pass. But he still has to show up in court for being stupid gun owner, AND lost his job as he was told do not come back to DC except to appear in court.....
Got Stripers 01-18-2021, 07:19 PM Yup, he gets a pass. But he still has to show up in court for being stupid gun owner, AND lost his job as he was told do not come back to DC except to appear in court.....
There are going to be a lot looking to Trump to give them them ultimate pass for being stupid, hope they have the money or the connections.
scottw 01-18-2021, 08:40 PM There are going to be a lot looking to Trump to give them them ultimate pass for being stupid, hope they have the money or the connections.
so you are admitting that you were wrong....
scottw 01-18-2021, 08:41 PM try not to become too triggered or violent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQs8uSmOMs
scottw 01-18-2021, 08:44 PM Yup, he gets a pass. But he still has to show up in court for being stupid gun owner, AND lost his job as he was told do not come back to DC except to appear in court.....
is calling someone a "traitor" inflammatory?...asking for a friend
Pete F. 01-18-2021, 10:19 PM Silly boys, Tweetless’s whole presidency has been like watching a NASCAR race only for the crashes.
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Sea Dangles 01-18-2021, 11:15 PM The joke is that there are some sheeple here that actually believe there are 25,000 national guard “required” for the inauguration to be held.
Sea Dangles 01-18-2021, 11:16 PM try not to become too triggered or violent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQs8uSmOMs
This
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piemma 01-19-2021, 05:05 AM “It was an honest mistake,” Beeler explained after being released. In a tear-filled interview, he said he has spent the last week working as hired security in downtown Washington ahead of the inauguration. He was running late to work and forgot that his firearm was in his truck when he left his home in Virginia, where he said he has a license to carry. He denied that he had more than 500 rounds of ammunition listed in his arrest report.
“I pulled up to a checkpoint after getting lost in D.C. because I’m a country boy,” he said. “I showed them the inauguration badge that was given to me.”
Beeler has been ordered not to return to the city except to appear in court or meet with his lawyer.
As someone who has a CCP and a vet, YOU DON'T FORGET WHERE YOUR GUN IS!!!!!!!!!
nightfighter 01-19-2021, 07:43 AM This
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Inflammatory
No, it is a juvenile response. You and I have both raised kids. We know the difference.
As for sheepling me, Chris, if you re-read my original post, I was actually questioning whether there was a valid election result, if indeed they do need 25,000 troops. It is a staggering number to "require" in a true democracy. (To be fair, it appears they pulled two companies numbering a total of 500 National Guardmen from each of the fifty states to come up with that number...) But after seeing the Trump supporters refuse to respect the police and the law of the land, if someone in a more qualified position with better intelligence say the number needed is 25k, so be it. It is disgraceful that it is the number in my opinion. But simply acknowledging that piece of information hardly makes me a sheeple....
nightfighter 01-19-2021, 07:46 AM As someone who has a CCP and a vet, YOU DON'T FORGET WHERE YOUR GUN IS!!!!!!!!!
Amen. Zero tolerance.
Sea Dangles 01-19-2021, 08:12 AM No, it is a juvenile response. You and I have both raised kids. We know the difference.
As for sheepling me, Chris, if you re-read my original post, I was actually questioning whether there was a valid election result, if indeed they do need 25,000 troops. It is a staggering number to "require" in a true democracy. (To be fair, it appears they pulled two companies numbering a total of 500 National Guardmen from each of the fifty states to come up with that number...) But after seeing the Trump supporters refuse to respect the police and the law of the land, if someone in a more qualified position with better intelligence say the number needed is 25k, so be it. It is disgraceful that it is the number in my opinion. But simply acknowledging that piece of information hardly makes me a sheeple....
If this is the case then I will not be parenting here. My point was it is harmless babble.
The 25k reference was for Jeff, who has proven to be dramatic in the past. But if the shoe fits....
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Sea Dangles 01-19-2021, 08:14 AM Amen. Zero tolerance.
Guns= America
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Jim in CT 01-19-2021, 08:15 AM i don’t think republicans have any right to complain about a massive show of
force, we forfeited that right when a small number of jerks stormed the capital. you reap what you sow.
Complain about the hypocrisy shown every minute, not about safety precautions, because if the situation had been reversed, a republican president elect would be doing the same thing, and he’d be right to do it.
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PaulS 01-19-2021, 09:02 AM i don’t think republicans have any right to complain about a massive show of
force, we forfeited that right when a small number of jerks stormed the capital. you reap what you sow.
Complain about the hypocrisy shown every minute, not about safety precautions, because if the situation had been reversed, a republican president elect would be doing the same thing, and he’d be right to do it.
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I don't think you wrote that last line well bc it is not Biden who is ordering the massive show of force. It is prob. the FBI, SS, DC police, etc.
If it was any other Pres - Dem or Rep. they would have come out on 1/6 with a strong statement condemning the mob. They would not have caused this problem after the election and claimed w/o evidence they lost the election bc of fraud.
Sea Dangles 01-19-2021, 09:13 AM Probably
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scottw 01-19-2021, 09:33 AM As someone who has a CCP and a vet, YOU DON'T FORGET WHERE YOUR GUN IS!!!!!!!!!
ummmm...people forget their infants in their cars....I didn't say he was smart....I said he probably was not what GS insinuated with his post....based on the evidence
PaulS 01-19-2021, 11:04 AM Don't own a gun but could believe he could have made a mistake. I do understand the gun owners saying they are always aware of where the gun is. Haven't seen anything recently that said they thought he was a threat.
Slipknot 01-19-2021, 01:28 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0l7xH5zbIg&t=345s
Pete F. 01-19-2021, 01:30 PM Sen. McConnell on US Capitol insurrection:
"The mob was fed lies. They were provoked by the president and other powerful people, and they tried to use fear and violence to stop a specific proceeding of the first branch of the federal government which they did not like."
spence 01-19-2021, 02:06 PM As someone who has a CCP and a vet, YOU DON'T FORGET WHERE YOUR GUN IS!!!!!!!!!
People do this all the time, especially at airports. Atlanta Hartsfield alone confiscates hundreds of handguns per year at security. I used to work with a guy who got fired for forgetting a handgun was in his briefcase in Boston. Can't imagine being that lax with a handgun.
The guy is probably telling the truth but his story is certainly a bit sketchy.
Jim in CT 01-19-2021, 03:07 PM IThey would not have caused this problem after the election and claimed w/o evidence they lost the election bc of fraud.
so Hilary and Pelosi didn’t make unsupported claims that the 2016 election was stolen by Russia? they didn’t kill people in the capital obviously, but they spent years, years, saying Trump was illegitimate. So i don’t know what you’re referring to, but your recollection is wrong.
“Jim, it’s OK when we do it...”
https://thepostmillennial.com/flashback-nancy-pelosi-claimed-election-was-stolen
More democrats who claimed the 2016 election wasn’t valid...
https://www.wnd.com/2020/12/list-democrats-called-trump-illegitimate/
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PaulS 01-19-2021, 03:21 PM so Hilary and Pelosi didn’t make unsupported claims that the 2016 election was stolen by Russia? they didn’t kill people in the capital obviously, but they spent years, years, saying Trump was illegitimate. So i don’t know what you’re referring to, but your recollection is wrong.
“Jim, it’s OK when we do it...”
https://thepostmillennial.com/flashback-nancy-pelosi-claimed-election-was-stolen
More democrats who claimed the 2016 election wasn’t valid...
https://www.wnd.com/2020/12/list-democrats-called-trump-illegitimate/
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I think it was stolen by the Russians. Look at how our law enforcement said they tried to influence our election and look at how gullible the Trump supporters are.
How many Dems. voted not to certify the Trump election?
And you only copied some of my statement to not show the context. I said every other Pres. (R or D) would not have acted as sleazy as Trump. Did you do that on purpose?
What has everyone been mocking you for here quite a bit: your whataboutism
Jim in CT 01-19-2021, 04:31 PM I think it was stolen by the Russians. Look at how our law enforcement said they tried to influence our election and look at how gullible the Trump supporters are.
How many Dems. voted not to certify the Trump election?
And you only copied some of my statement to not show the context. I said every other Pres. (R or D) would not have acted as sleazy as Trump. Did you do that on purpose?
What has everyone been mocking you for here quite a bit: your whataboutism
"I think it was stolen by the Russians."
Which puts you in the same "I believe it even though there's no evidence" camp as Trump. Of course Russia meddled, there's zero evidence it changed the outcome.
"What has everyone been mocking you for here quite a bit: your whataboutism"
The people mocking me for that, are the ones who don't like seeing their hypocrisy exposed.
I can immediately admit my side's hypocrisy, say, on criticizing Obama for adding to the debt, but looking the other way when Trump did it. It's obvious hypocrisy. I would never offer the pathetic, moronic excuse that pointing that out, is "whataboutism". Because it's valid to point thatout. None of you can concede it exists on your side, for example when the left ignored (or encouraged) the riots this summer which killed 19 and did over $1 billion in damage. That was not worth noting. But when republicans do it once, it's the end of the world.
PaulS 01-19-2021, 05:14 PM "I think it was stolen by the Russians."
Which puts you in the same "I believe it even though there's no evidence" camp as Trump. Of course Russia meddled, there's zero evidence it changed the outcome.
"What has everyone been mocking you for here quite a bit: your whataboutism"
The people mocking me for that, are the ones who don't like seeing their hypocrisy exposed.
I can immediately admit my side's hypocrisy, say, on criticizing Obama for adding to the debt, but looking the other way when Trump did it. It's obvious hypocrisy. I would never offer the pathetic, moronic excuse that pointing that out, is "whataboutism". Because it's valid to point thatout. None of you can concede it exists on your side, for example when the left ignored (or encouraged) the riots this summer which killed 19 and did over $1 billion in damage. That was not worth noting. But when republicans do it once, it's the end of the world.
You're an angry liar. The left frequently called out the people who caused damaged. And people did not encourage riotsm
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The Dad Fisherman 01-19-2021, 07:11 PM How many Dems. voted not to certify the Trump election?
Well, it wasn’t exactly smooth sailing
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/01/06/politics/electoral-college-vote-count-objections/index.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-democrats-object-more-states-2016-republicans-2020-1561407%3famp=1
It also wasn’t a new strategy for them either as they did it in The 2000 election as well
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-2001-01-07-0101070059-story,amp.html
And 2004 election as well....
https://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/electoral.vote.1718/
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Sea Dangles 01-19-2021, 07:28 PM "I think it was stolen by the Russians."
Which puts you in the same "I believe it even though there's no evidence" camp as Trump. Of course Russia meddled, there's zero evidence it changed the outcome.
"What has everyone been mocking you for here quite a bit: your whataboutism"
The people mocking me for that, are the ones who don't like seeing their hypocrisy exposed.
I can immediately admit my side's hypocrisy, say, on criticizing Obama for adding to the debt, but looking the other way when Trump did it. It's obvious hypocrisy. I would never offer the pathetic, moronic excuse that pointing that out, is "whataboutism". Because it's valid to point thatout. None of you can concede it exists on your side, for example when the left ignored (or encouraged) the riots this summer which killed 19 and did over $1 billion in damage. That was not worth noting. But when republicans do it once, it's the end of the world.
Poor little skinny fella is having a tough day. First time I felt bad for him.
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PaulS 01-19-2021, 07:37 PM Poor little skinny fella is having a tough day. First time I felt bad for him.
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Perhaps you missed my post earlier where I mentioned that in one of those unsolicited emails about what a scummy person you are someone made a comment that your wife had cancer in the past. Is that true?
PaulS 01-19-2021, 07:41 PM Well, it wasn’t exactly smooth sailing
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/01/06/politics/electoral-college-vote-count-objections/index.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-democrats-object-more-states-2016-republicans-2020-1561407%3famp=1
It also wasn’t a new strategy for them either as they did it in The 2000 election as well
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-2001-01-07-0101070059-story,amp.html
And 2004 election as well....
https://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/electoral.vote.1718/
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Thanks, you made my point.
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Perhaps you missed my post earlier where I mentioned that in one of those unsolicited emails about what a scummy person you are someone made a comment that your wife had cancer in the past. Is that true?
I didn’t miss it
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PaulS 01-19-2021, 07:54 PM I didn’t miss it
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Is it true bc I'm just trying to gauge his credibility bc what he said about you if true, would be one of the scummiest things I've ever heard of a person doing.
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scottw 01-19-2021, 07:59 PM Thanks, you made my point.
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NY TIMES
‘It Is Over’: Democrats’ Efforts to Deny Trump Presidency Fail
By Matt Flegenheimer
Jan. 6, 2017
WASHINGTON — One by one, the Democratic lawmakers stepped to the microphone on Friday, holding on to their letters and an impossible dream: denying the presidency to Donald J. Trump, two weeks before his inauguration.
CNN
Police injured, more than 200 arrested at Trump inauguration protests in DC
By Gregory Krieg, CNN
Updated 4:06 AM EST, Sat January 21, 2017
At least two DC police officers and one other person were taken to the hospital after run-ins with protesters, DC Fire Spokesman Vito Maggiolo told CNN. Acting DC Police Chief Peter Newsham said the officers’ injuries were considered minor and not life threatening.
Bursts of chaos erupted on 12th and K streets as black-clad “antifascist” protesters smashed storefronts and bus stops, hammered out the windows of a limousine and eventually launched rocks at a phalanx of police lined up in an eastbound crosswalk.
Anti-Trump protests also broke out Friday in US cities, including New York, Seattle, Dallas, Chicago and Portland, Oregon. Authorities in Seattle say one person was in critical condition at a hospital with a gunshot wound.
Liberal groups praised the work of protesters, many of whom traveled from around the country to rail against a president they called “illegitimate” in thousands of signs and songs.
In Portland, Oregon, protesters were armed with clubs, sticks and throwing unknown liquid at officers, according to the Portland Police Department. Six people were arrested in Portland Friday, Portland Police Sgt. Pete Simpson tells CNN.
In Seattle, people threw bricks and other items at officers during a demonstration on the the University of Washington campus, city police said. Harborview Medical Center in Seattle confirmed it was treating a man who was shot at the protest and is in critical condition. Seattle police said a man turned himself in to campus police and was being questioned.
“We’re really trying to set a tone of resistance for the coming years,” Lacy MacAuley, a DisruptJ20 organizer, told CNN.
Sea Dangles 01-19-2021, 08:02 PM Is it true bc I'm just trying to gauge his credibility bc what he said about you if true, would be one of the scummiest things I've ever heard of a person doing.
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Get a good rest my skinny little malcontent. You probably are just tired from spending the day defending our nation.
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PaulS 01-19-2021, 08:06 PM Get a good rest my skinny little malcontent. You probably are just tired from spending the day defending our nation.
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I'm going to assume it's true based on your posts. As much as I always thought you were a vile person I think I greatly underestimated your vileness.
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Sea Dangles 01-19-2021, 09:03 PM I'm going to assume it's true based on your posts. As much as I always thought you were a vile person I think I greatly underestimated your vileness.
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And I will assume you don’t know the meaning of constantly.👖
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