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scottw
09-23-2021, 05:53 AM
The White House Correspondents’ Association has filed a formal complaint against Joe Biden after his aides refused to let him take any questions during his meeting in the Oval Office with UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

Prime Minister Johnson took three questions from the travelling press corps, but Biden’s handlers stepped in to shoo reporters away before they could ask Biden any questions.

The cacophonous shouting began while Johnson was still in mid sentence answering a reporter’s question, and while Biden appeared to be dozing off.

CBS News pointed out that it was not the usual protocol for only one side of a bilateral meeting at the White House to have to answer questions.

"CBS News'
@EdOkeefe
reports that during Pres. Biden's bilateral meeting with British PM Boris Johnson, U.S. press questions about the southern border were shouted down by White House aides. The president's answer was undecipherable."

The Dad Fisherman
09-23-2021, 06:10 AM
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wdmso
09-23-2021, 06:43 AM
Biden answered two questions then falls asleep ? thanks for the early morning laugh
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Pete F.
09-23-2021, 07:04 AM
Scott’s just hoping for Kamala to become President.
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scottw
09-23-2021, 07:37 AM
Scott’s just hoping for Kamala to become President.
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that will be fabulous....soon too:)

scottw
09-23-2021, 07:42 AM
Biden answered two questions then falls asleep ? thanks for the early morning laugh
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maybe the vast right wing conspiracy reporter that was there is lying :doh: I don't but is't pretty funny and not surprising


CBS reporter Ed O’Keefe said that “Johnson took 3 questions. White House aides shouted down U.S. attempts to ask questions. I asked Biden about southern border and we couldn’t decipher what he said.”

he said " oh go you know the thing....c'mon man! "

Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 08:46 AM
Biden answered two questions then falls asleep ? thanks for the early morning laugh
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the entire white house press corps, almost all of which is way left leaning, filed a complaint.

Nothing to see there, right? Nothing to see there, itching to see in his polling numbers, it’s all right wing catnip.
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Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 08:47 AM
maybe the vast right wing conspiracy reporter that was there is lying :doh: I don't but is't pretty funny and not surprising


CBS reporter Ed O’Keefe said that “Johnson took 3 questions. White House aides shouted down U.S. attempts to ask questions. I asked Biden about southern border and we couldn’t decipher what he said.”

he said " oh go you know the thing....c'mon man! "

correct. that’s a cbs reporter, not fox news.

If O’Keefe isn’t careful, Biden might sick his old pal Corn Pop after him.
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Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 09:25 AM
Scott’s just hoping for Kamala to become President.
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most republicans want that, she polled in democrat primaries at what, 1%? until Tulsi Gabbard took her out to the woodshed on national TV.
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Pete F.
09-23-2021, 09:40 AM
Ask an Indian, they think its absurd that a lot of Americans saw Tulsi Gabbard as some sort of progressive anti-war candidate?

She literally supports the BJP in India and blatant, brain-dead Islamophobia flows in her blood. She's dangerous.

The Dad Fisherman
09-23-2021, 09:40 AM
most republicans want that, she polled in democrat primaries at what, 1%? until Tulsi Gabbard took her out to the woodshed on national TV.
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Won't happen, at least not until they see how things shake out after mid terms, because then they would lose the tie breaker vote in the senate.
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scottw
09-23-2021, 09:57 AM
Ask an Indian, they think its absurd that a lot of Americans saw Tulsi Gabbard as some sort of progressive anti-war candidate?

She literally supports the BJP in India and blatant, brain-dead Islamophobia flows in her blood. She's dangerous.

ever analyze the hate that flows from you?

Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 10:50 AM
Ask an Indian, they think its absurd that a lot of Americans saw Tulsi Gabbard as some sort of progressive anti-war candidate?

She literally supports the BJP in India and blatant, brain-dead Islamophobia flows in her blood.

She's dangerous.

Last time i checked, Indians don’t decide presidential elections by themselves. So i’ll pass on asking your hand-picked Indian, thanks.

I’ll do that, right after you ask an Afghani who stuck his neck out to help America but is now being hunted by the Taliban, what he thinks of Biden’s withdrawal. Or, right after you ask the family of someone murdered by an illegal, what he thinks of Biden’s border policy.

Fair enough? You go first and report back to us what they say.




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Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 10:51 AM
ever analyze the hate that flows from you?

Gabbard dares to disagree with the Narrative on one or two issues. That isn’t allowed.
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wdmso
09-23-2021, 10:57 AM
the entire white house press corps, almost all of which is way left leaning, filed a complaint.

Nothing to see there, right? Nothing to see there, itching to see in his polling numbers, it’s all right wing catnip.
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Jim as if on cue forgets the treatment of of the last press corps

but is upset and sticking up for the current One ? because they only got 2 questions out of Biden Yet Every presidential administration has a combative relationship with the White House press corps, but hea why should facts matter

But when Trump White House goes 300+ days without a press briefing or
“Trump wants people to believe that the reporters in that room are the opposition party.


Jim silent as the Grave Classic

Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 11:00 AM
Jim as if on cue forgets the treatment of of the last press corps

but is upset and sticking up for the current One ? because they only got 2 questions out of Biden Yet Every presidential administration has a combative relationship with the White House press corps, but hea why should facts matter

But when Trump White House goes 300+ days without a press briefing or
“Trump wants people to believe that the reporters in that room are the opposition party.


Jim silent as the Grave Classic

here’s the difference between us. I’ll
say now, as i said back then, Trumps treatment of the media was often embarrassing and inappropriate.

I can criticize trump when he deserves it. Can you do the same with Biden?

Nope. Instead, you attack the reporters who complained. Biden is the victim in your mind.

yet guy act as if i’m the one with no principles, when you’re the one with opposite standards depending on the party of the president. And every single person here, sees it, because it’s stupidly obvious.

Have fun making that wrong.

All the liberal reporters feel Biden’s is being inappropriate. You’re silent as we all knew you’d be.
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wdmso
09-23-2021, 12:33 PM
here’s the difference between us. I’ll
say now, as i said back then, Trumps treatment of the media was often embarrassing and inappropriate.

I can criticize trump when he deserves it. Can you do the same with Biden?

Nope. Instead, you attack the reporters who complained. Biden is the victim in your mind.

yet guy act as if i’m the one with no principles, when you’re the one with opposite standards depending on the party of the president. And every single person here, sees it, because it’s stupidly obvious.

Have fun making that wrong.

All the liberal reporters feel Biden’s is being inappropriate. You’re silent as we all knew you’d be.
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Jim Show me one outrage post about Trump and his treatment of the press you ever made .

To use your line. have fun with that ..

Jim it’s not your principals . As much as when you decide to express your principles and when you don’t

it’s yet another example of making comparisons Where no such comparison exists
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scottw
09-23-2021, 12:39 PM
Jim it’s not your principals . As much as when you decide to express your principles and when you don’t

it’s yet another example of making comparisons Where no such comparison exists

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this is pretty deep.....

wdmso
09-23-2021, 12:41 PM
Biden answered 2 British reporters question. The American press corps got none.. that the complaint

Omg the sky is falling
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Pete F.
09-23-2021, 12:53 PM
Last time i checked, Indians don’t decide presidential elections by themselves. So i’ll pass on asking your hand-picked Indian, thanks.



I’ll do that, right after you ask an Afghani who stuck his neck out to help America but is now being hunted by the Taliban, what he thinks of Biden’s withdrawal. Or, right after you ask the family of someone murdered by an illegal, what he thinks of Biden’s border policy.

Fair enough? You go first and report back to us what they say.




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Afghani's don't have opinions, they're a currency.

Maybe you could ask one of the 50,000 Afghans killed in the conflict in Afghanistan, you think all Afghans are unhappy to see us gone?
Are the people who worked with us now the Tories of Afghanistan?
We have pulled more than 130,000 people out of Afghanistan, are you willing to have them in your town?

And then you could ask a Kurd killed by a Turk after Trump ran out on them after the Kurds fought for us against ISIS. What did the Trump corp get for doing that?

The 10,000 people killed this year by gun violence were not the result of illegal immigration. In Texas, US-born citizens are over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes than illegal immigrants.

As usual you watch and have your mind made up for you.

scottw
09-23-2021, 01:15 PM
Biden answered 2 British reporters question. The American press corps got none.. that the complaint

Omg the sky is falling
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you can watch the clip...weekend-at-biden's is definitely falling asleep...his handlers yelling over the reporters woke him up :rotf3:

Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 01:30 PM
Biden answered 2 British reporters question. The American press corps got none.. that the complaint

Omg the sky is falling
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you accuse me if having double standards, i irrefutably prove to you i don’t. then you irrefutably prove you do have double standards, then act as if it’s me.

i didn’t say the sky was falling. i said even liberal
reporters are complaining now.

What’s falling, is his approval ratings, especially among independents. Before you say “ but trumps polling was worse”, i remind you that trump got creamed at re election.
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Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 01:35 PM
Jim Show me one outrage post about Trump and his treatment of the press you ever made .

To use your line. have fun with that ..

Jim it’s not your principals . As much as when you decide to express your principles and when you don’t

it’s yet another example of making comparisons Where no such comparison exists.
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“show me one outrage post”.

i just made a post criticizing trump, today. i’m sorry if you can’t read.

“another example of making comparisons where no such comparison exists.”

Are you ok in the head, seriously? YOU are the one who brought trumps media relationship into this, not me. Whats wrong with you!

Jim: even the liberal
media is saying Biden is being uncooperative.

WDMSO: you never complained when trump did it.

Jim: i’ll do it now, trump treated the media inappropriately

WDMSO: show me where you criticized trump. also, you’re comparing things that arent the same.

See how amazingly stupid that sounds?
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Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 01:37 PM
you can watch the clip...weekend-at-biden's is definitely falling asleep...his handlers yelling over the reporters woke him up :rotf3:

they can’t just say “if everyone in the liberal media filed a complaint, there was probably a legitimate gripe.”

They arent capable of it.
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Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 02:14 PM
president Pudding Brain says horses are now inherently racist, because riding them
involves ropes, so he’s banning border agents from being on horses.

That should solve all our problems there.
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spence
09-23-2021, 02:18 PM
president Pudding Brain says horses are now inherently racist, because riding them
involves ropes, so he’s banning border agents from being on horses.

That should solve all our problems there.
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Yea Jim, that's what he said.

Pete F.
09-23-2021, 02:27 PM
Jim heard him, over the other voices in his head
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Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 02:59 PM
Yea Jim, that's what he said.

he said no more horses.

that really illustrates the difference between you and me.

i look at videos of thousands of migrants illegally crossing in a line for hours, setting up camp under a bridge in our side,,and I think my god that open border is begging for trouble.

you see a few agents on horses trying to control people coming illegally into our country, and your side goes right o the barbaric racist “they’re whipping them” hysteria.

did you see Jen Psaki “explain” why we need proof of vaccines but illegals don’t? she says “they don’t plan to be here that long.”

you buy that? they came here just to have lunch?

or is she lying through her teeth, because there is no honest answer that doesn’t make the administration look awful?
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spence
09-23-2021, 03:29 PM
he said no more horses.

that really illustrates the difference between you and me.

i look at videos of thousands of migrants illegally crossing in a line for hours, setting up camp under a bridge in our side,,and I think my god that open border is begging for trouble.

you see a few agents on horses trying to control people coming illegally into our country, and your side goes right o the barbaric racist “they’re whipping them” hysteria.
They said they were "temporarily" suspending the use of horses at that location. I would imagine horses are very effective in some terrain but this doesn't look to be it. I didn't think they were whipping immigrants but some of photos did look really bad. Also, we know the really racist horses are in El Paso.

did you see Jen Psaki “explain” why we need proof of vaccines but illegals don’t? she says “they don’t plan to be here that long.”
Most of the vaccines require two doses, I think we're not expecting many of them to be around for a second shot in three weeks.

spence
09-23-2021, 03:38 PM
Also, watched the video. He looked tired but not falling asleep. Answers were pretty lucid. I get tired at times as well.

Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 03:49 PM
They said they were "temporarily" suspending the use of horses at that location. I would imagine horses are very effective in some terrain but this doesn't look to be it. I didn't think they were whipping immigrants but some of photos did look really bad. Also, we know the really racist horses are in El Paso.


Most of the vaccines require two doses, I think we're not expecting many of them to be around for a second shot in three weeks.

"I would imagine horses are very effective in some terrain but this doesn't look to be it."

I have no ability to tell law enforcement why the topography there is or isn't conducive to equines, I'm sure you have experience which qualifies you to offer an opinion.

In any event, the reports I saw on the ban, said absolutely notihng about the "terrain", and everything about the appalling whipping that has been taking place. Jen Psaki, who is really having a week, specifically called out images that included a border agent grabbing a criminals shirt (should we execute that agent without trial, I mean he's a monster!) "horrible and horrific".

So we have no idea why you went directly to terrain. You're offering justification that not even the administration is using.

"I think we're not expecting many of them to be around for a second shot in three weeks."

Based on what?

wdmso
09-23-2021, 03:54 PM
“show me one outrage post”.

i just made a post criticizing trump, today. i’m sorry if you can’t read.

“another example of making comparisons where no such comparison exists.”

Are you ok in the head, seriously? YOU are the one who brought trumps media relationship into this, not me. Whats wrong with you!

Jim: even the liberal
media is saying Biden is being uncooperative.

WDMSO: you never complained when trump did it.

Jim: i’ll do it now, trump treated the media inappropriately

WDMSO: show me where you criticized trump. also, you’re comparing things that arent the same.

See how amazingly stupid that sounds?
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Jim when Biden calls the press the enemy of the people then we can compare apples to apples until then please keep yourself entertained on how horrible Biden is to the press as if you ever cared about the press until today
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wdmso
09-23-2021, 04:00 PM
Also, watched the video. He looked tired but not falling asleep. Answers were pretty lucid. I get tired at times as well.

Old men getting tired oh the horror..

The right will keep pushing the sleepy joe until they find another lie to sell to their gullible followers
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Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 04:05 PM
Old men getting tired oh the horror..

The right will keep pushing the sleepy joe until they find another lie to sell to their gullible followers
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try to follow…

“the right” didnt create this story. the entire press corps complained, including many on “the left.”

still confused?
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spence
09-23-2021, 04:07 PM
I have no ability to tell law enforcement why the topography there is or isn't conducive to equines, I'm sure you have experience which qualifies you to offer an opinion.
Years of watching cowboy movies and a little common sense.

In any event, the reports I saw on the ban, said absolutely notihng about the "terrain", and everything about the appalling whipping that has been taking place. Jen Psaki, who is really having a week, specifically called out images that included a border agent grabbing a criminals shirt (should we execute that agent without trial, I mean he's a monster!) "horrible and horrific".
The photos were really bad.

Based on what?
I don't know, like, the 8 flights a day back to Haiti? :sleeps:

Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 04:49 PM
Years of watching cowboy movies and a little common sense.


The photos were really bad.


I don't know, like, the 8 flights a day back to Haiti? :sleeps:

so all the people here illegally, are waiting for the first available flight home? the millions of illegal
mexicans, are still
waiting for that first available flight.
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The Dad Fisherman
09-23-2021, 04:50 PM
I would imagine horses are very effective in some terrain but this doesn't look to be it.

Horses in NY City = Good
Horses in Texas = Bad

Makes total sense
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Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 04:53 PM
Years of watching cowboy movies and a little common sense.


The photos were really bad.


:

were the horses being racist? what did the horses have to do with it?

i saw a lot of westerns too, pretty sure some took place in southern texas, meaning maybe it’s not that inhospitable to horses. in any event, nobody except you is saying the terrain had anything to do with it.
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wdmso
09-23-2021, 05:10 PM
try to follow…

“the right” didnt create this story. the entire press corps complained, including many on “the left.”

still confused?
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Seem you are confused they the us press corps are upset because they didn’t get to ask a question .. not that Bided was snoring

What nothing about about the press in the enemy or the people … but but Biden
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wdmso
09-23-2021, 05:14 PM
were the horses being racist? what did the horses have to do with it?

i saw a lot of westerns too, pretty sure some took place in southern texas, meaning maybe it’s not that inhospitable to horses. in any event, nobody except you is saying the terrain had anything to do with it.
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Jim during all the immigrants invasions and caravans the right enjoy claiming are happening across the southern border . Have you ever seen horses used to chase people back to Mexico? And are those horses and officers trained in crowd control with their Animals? It’s actually a thing
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spence
09-23-2021, 05:27 PM
were the horses being racist? what did the horses have to do with it?

i saw a lot of westerns too, pretty sure some took place in southern texas, meaning maybe it’s not that inhospitable to horses. in any event, nobody except you is saying the terrain had anything to do with it.
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Pete, why TF are you still talking about racist horses?

scottw
09-23-2021, 05:32 PM
He looked tired but not falling asleep.



just resting his eyes....:rotf2:

Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 05:48 PM
Jim during all the immigrants invasions and caravans the right enjoy claiming are happening across the southern border . Have you ever seen horses used to chase people back to Mexico? And are those horses and officers trained in crowd control with their Animals? It’s actually a thing
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“the right enjoy claiming.”

so they’re not actually happening?

I’ve actually been to the Arizona border once and saw plenty of law enforcement on horses. I’d hilly terrain along a river, especially when not right adjacent to. a road, can be a good place to be on a horse.

If they can have cops on horses in Manhattan for gods sake, the southern border towns seem like an absolute no brained to me.
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spence
09-23-2021, 05:56 PM
I’ve actually been to the Arizona border once and saw plenty of law enforcement on horses. I’d hilly terrain along a river, especially when not right adjacent to. a road, can be a good place to be on a horse.
WHAT TF DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HORSES AND TERRAIN???? WHY ARE YOU BRINGING THIS UP ?????

Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 05:59 PM
WHAT TF DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HORSES AND TERRAIN???? WHY ARE YOU BRINGING THIS UP ?????

i googled it. order patrol uses horses regularly, because much of the area isn’t accessible by roads, you see.

spence, which “terrain” do you think is more suitable for a horse, midtown manhattan ( where cops can be in horses today), or rural
southern texas, where they can’t be in horses today? in those westerns you say you saw, were more filmed in rural texas or in manhattan?

a few liberal
morons don’t know how horses work, so they equated reims with slave whips.
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Jim in CT
09-23-2021, 06:01 PM
WHAT TF DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HORSES AND TERRAIN???? WHY ARE YOU BRINGING THIS UP ?????

i didn’t bring it up, you did. as little as i know, i know more than you, as usual.
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scottw
09-23-2021, 06:22 PM
Answers were pretty lucid.

.

as long as he's "pretty lucid" and not falling up steps....I guess we're ok

scottw
09-23-2021, 06:24 PM
a few liberal
morons don’t know how horses work, so they equated reims with slave whips.

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definitely racist cowboys riding racist horses with racist whips and racist lassos...if you disagree you are just exhibiting your latent racism

spence
09-23-2021, 06:44 PM
as long as he's "pretty lucid" and not falling up steps....I guess we're ok
I've fallen up steps. Happens with dress Shoes. Hell Trump can't even walk down a ramp.

scottw
09-23-2021, 06:46 PM
I've fallen up steps. Happens with dress Shoes. Hell Trump can't even walk down a ramp.

yeah...not like that...

spence
09-23-2021, 06:47 PM
i didn’t bring it up, you did. as little as i know, i know more than you, as usual.
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Wait, so I bring up terrain. You mock it, then cite your own research that it's a factor, then declare victory. I'm willing to subsidize your therapy by the way. Maybe your BFF will even chip in.

scottw
09-23-2021, 07:25 PM
Wait, so I bring up terrain. You mock it, then cite your own research that it's a factor, then declare victory. I'm willing to subsidize your therapy by the way. Maybe your BFF will even chip in.

wait...who is his BFF? if spence is giving money away...maybe they can both get therapy....

scottw
09-23-2021, 07:26 PM
I've fallen up steps. Happens with Depends. Hell Trump can't even walk down a ramp.



fixed it...

The Dad Fisherman
09-23-2021, 08:43 PM
as long as he's "pretty lucid" and not falling up steps....I guess we're ok

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EmbarrassedAliveKangaroo-max-1mb.gif
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Pete F.
09-23-2021, 09:08 PM
Well, golf was good.
I see you boys entertained yourselves
Learned about horsies and cops
Not much about Haiti
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Pete F.
09-23-2021, 09:17 PM
From a former border patrol agent
I have refrained from saying these things because I know they sound crazy, but I cannot just sit and say nothing. Remember some months ago when Border Patrol was so overwhelmed by unaccompanied children and the conditions were horrible? Remember how took a trip out to AZ and TX to witness for myself. Now we see the same going on in Del Rio, TX. In the beginning of the Del Rio crisis, CBP claimed Border Patrol was caught off guard. Really? Border Patrol/CBP have excellent intelligence on the movement of large groups of migrants. There is no way they did not know about this group. Now today, Fox News says Border Patrol claims they warned Biden about the group in June. So which is it? Did they know or didn’t they? What I see going on, from an intelligence and operational point of view, is CBP and Border Patrol management playing politics with migrant lives. Truthfully, they have always done this, but not on this scale. Even during the Trump administration, agents admitted to me that they were told to intentionally slow walk the processing to create the overcrowded conditions we saw that led to record in custody deaths, deaths of children. They wanted to make the border look as out of control as possible to get Trump’s harshest policies through. Now they are making the fact that we have large groups of migrants coming to our southern border worse with a variety of tactics. They want the border to look out of control to make this administration look bad on border security. Notice how they blocked most other outlets except Fox News from filming here. Notice how they just simply closed down the the crossing point Haitians were using. They had enough manpower before to do it. Last night, Mexican immigration started rounding up Haitians, forcing them on buses and sending them to Chiapas. Now the former Chief of Border Patrol sent a letter to congressional members warning of imminent terrorist threats from these crises. Something’s coming. I don’t know if it’s that some National Guard kid is going to end up shooting or some militia guy maybe, but something is going to break. This will end soon, and the Border Patrol will be onto the next catastrophe to gain political points. And frankly, I don’t think Biden understands that these people are not on his team. We are playing with people’s lives here just to score political points. These are human beings.
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scottw
09-24-2021, 03:06 AM
From a former border patrol agent
I have refrained from saying these things because I know they sound crazy, but I cannot just sit and say nothing. Remember some months ago when Border Patrol was so overwhelmed by unaccompanied children and the conditions were horrible? Remember how took a trip out to AZ and TX to witness for myself. Now we see the same going on in Del Rio, TX. In the beginning of the Del Rio crisis, CBP claimed Border Patrol was caught off guard. Really? Border Patrol/CBP have excellent intelligence on the movement of large groups of migrants. There is no way they did not know about this group. Now today, Fox News says Border Patrol claims they warned Biden about the group in June. So which is it? Did they know or didn’t they? What I see going on, from an intelligence and operational point of view, is CBP and Border Patrol management playing politics with migrant lives. Truthfully, they have always done this, but not on this scale. Even during the Trump administration, agents admitted to me that they were told to intentionally slow walk the processing to create the overcrowded conditions we saw that led to record in custody deaths, deaths of children. They wanted to make the border look as out of control as possible to get Trump’s harshest policies through. Now they are making the fact that we have large groups of migrants coming to our southern border worse with a variety of tactics. They want the border to look out of control to make this administration look bad on border security. Notice how they blocked most other outlets except Fox News from filming here. Notice how they just simply closed down the the crossing point Haitians were using. They had enough manpower before to do it. Last night, Mexican immigration started rounding up Haitians, forcing them on buses and sending them to Chiapas. Now the former Chief of Border Patrol sent a letter to congressional members warning of imminent terrorist threats from these crises. Something’s coming. I don’t know if it’s that some National Guard kid is going to end up shooting or some militia guy maybe, but something is going to break. This will end soon, and the Border Patrol will be onto the next catastrophe to gain political points. And frankly, I don’t think Biden understands that these people are not on his team. We are playing with people’s lives here just to score political points. These are human beings.
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oh...so now it's the "CBP and Border Patrol management playing politics"....ok......

The Dad Fisherman
09-24-2021, 07:46 AM
Learned about horsies and cops
Not much about Haiti
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Must be a real #^&#^&#^&#^&hole if they’re trying so hard to get out of it.
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wdmso
09-24-2021, 08:09 AM
“the right enjoy claiming.”

so they’re not actually happening?

I’ve actually been to the Arizona border once and saw plenty of law enforcement on horses. I’d hilly terrain along a river, especially when not right adjacent to. a road, can be a good place to be on a horse.

If they can have cops on horses in Manhattan for gods sake, the southern border towns seem like an absolute no brained to me.
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jim we are talking horses trained in crowd control ... NY city horses and riders are bostons they are . are border control horses trained in crowd control?? from my research I found a site who claimed they trained Border control horses called Mounted Police Training Academy

again a border control horse is not a NY city horse again making these simplistic comparisons .. I have seen boston horses in action it looked nothing like what happened at the river .... it all comes down to optics one side loves it the other hates it

Jim in CT
09-24-2021, 09:19 AM
jim we are talking horses trained in crowd control ... NY city horses and riders are bostons they are . are border control horses trained in crowd control?? from my research I found a site who claimed they trained Border control horses called Mounted Police Training Academy

again a border control horse is not a NY city horse again making these simplistic comparisons .. I have seen boston horses in action it looked nothing like what happened at the river .... it all comes down to optics one side loves it the other hates it

first, why did you say “the right claims” these caravans are not happening? are you saying there were t thousands and thousands of illegals camped under that bridge?

you do have a point, horses can be dangerous in large crowds ( doesn’t stop NYPD from using them in Manhattan, does it?). i didn’t see any photos or videos of anyone getting trampled. i saw horses being ridden where there were only a handful of people nearby.

If you don’t want to be confronted by law enforcement on horseback, you could always cross al legal crossing points.
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scottw
09-24-2021, 10:22 AM
probably need to replace the law enforcement at the border with social workers :conf:

Jim in CT
09-24-2021, 10:36 AM
probably need to replace the law enforcement at the border with social workers :conf:

and where is the liberal/media outrage over the squalid conditions these people are forced to endure?

Obama built and used the cages, silence.

Trump used the cages, that made him Hitler, and they used an obama-era photo of kids in cages, to show us how truly evil Trump is. Makes sense.

Now things are way worse under Biden, now back to silence. Their outrage depends on the party of the sitting president.

I’m reminded of Groucho Marx who said “these are my principles, if you don’t like them i have other, different principles.”
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spence
09-24-2021, 11:58 AM
and where is the liberal/media outrage over the squalid conditions these people are forced to endure?
Actually there has been a lot of left wing criticism.

Obama built and used the cages, silence.
Under Obama they built temporary facilities to house mostly unaccompanied minors.

Trump used the cages, that made him Hitler
Because Trump changed the law to force breaking up families. Very different situation.

scottw
09-24-2021, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT View Post
and where is the liberal/media outrage over the squalid conditions these people are forced to endure?

Obama built and used the cages, silence.





Under Obama they built temporary facilities to house mostly unaccompanied minors.





so it was ok for Obama to put unaccompanied minors in cages?

spence
09-24-2021, 12:31 PM
so it was ok for Obama to put unaccompanied minors in cages?
I'd assume the decision to use chain link dividers was made at a much lower level. Less than ideal but they needed a solution that was cheap and fast. Again, very different than mandating the break up of families, that's a much bigger issue.

Pete F.
09-24-2021, 12:32 PM
:deadhorse:

Jim in CT
09-24-2021, 12:47 PM
Actually there has been a lot of left wing criticism.


Under Obama they built temporary facilities to house mostly unaccompanied minors.


Because Trump changed the law to force breaking up families. Very different situation.

"Actually there has been a lot of left wing criticism. "

Any from you? Didn't think so. WDMSO won't even concede the caravans are real, he said "the right claims there are caravans". That's how far away from reality he is.

"Under Obama they built temporary facilities to house mostly unaccompanied minors."

"Mostly". So you're saying, correctly, that Obama did break up some families (which NO ONE cared about), Trump expanded it, which everyone on the left cried over.

So, you're saying it's OK to forcibly split up some number of family units, but inhuman to go above that number. And by an amazing coincidence, you're going to say that Obama stayed below that number and Trump went over.

Spence, if you traveled with your kids to another country and flagrantly violated their federal laws, you wouldn't expect to be separated from your kids? Additionally, we know that some of these kids are being rented out to some of these adults who are fraudulently posing as a family in order to have a much better chance of staying.

Trump started to refer every single case for criminal processing. Why the heck shouldn't he? Did these people break the law or not?
If they want to stay with their kids (as well as avoid being gang raped by cartels on the Mexican side at illegal crossing points), there is a process for that. It's called legal immigration.

Biden doesn't need another badly bungled incident right now, but that's what he's got. Talking about ice cream isn't working on America anymore, not when they see this magnitude of gross incompetence regarding multiple independent events. Hence his polling, especially among independents.

Jim in CT
09-24-2021, 12:53 PM
Jeh Johnson, DHS secretary under the Obama administration, told NPR earlier this month that he couldn’t say that family separations “never happened” during his tenure.

In other words, they happened under the Obama administration. And no one cared enough to even know it was happening, including you.

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/did-the-obama-administration-separate-families/


The very photo the left used to show what a monster Trump is, was a photo from the Obama years.

You can't make this up.

spence
09-24-2021, 01:16 PM
Jeh Johnson, DHS secretary under the Obama administration, told NPR earlier this month that he couldn’t say that family separations “never happened” during his tenure.

In other words, they happened under the Obama administration. And no one cared enough to even know it was happening, including you.

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/did-the-obama-administration-separate-families/


The very photo the left used to show what a monster Trump is, was a photo from the Obama years.

You can't make this up.
What are you huffing today?

wdmso
09-24-2021, 01:59 PM
Jim Republicans only see caravans around Election Day. And these caravans seem to never materialize or actually invade our open borders !

How did the right miss this Haitian caravan? My guess the election is over and more focused on doing nothing for Americans
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wdmso
09-24-2021, 02:03 PM
What are you huffing today?

He seems to not understand something could have happened? and a policy that is designed to make sure separation of families actually happen !
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Jim in CT
09-24-2021, 02:54 PM
Jim Republicans only see caravans around Election Day. And these caravans seem to never materialize or actually invade our open borders !

How did the right miss this Haitian caravan? My guess the election is over and more focused on doing nothing for Americans
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first you say Republicans “claim” to see them, suggest isn’t they’re not really there.

now you’re saying they “only” see them on election day, meaning they ignore the others, which is the opposite of what you originally said.

which is it, does the gop make them
up, or ignore them, or are you saying they do both?

why would they ever ignore a large caravan? it’s a winning issue for them.

let’s make this simple enough even for you. please provide some examples of the gop either fabricating large caravans, or ignoring them ?
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Jim in CT
09-24-2021, 02:55 PM
What are you huffing today?

Obama’s guy said that the obama
administration also separated families. you don’t quite admit that.

so why didn’t you care when obama
separated children from parents, but you are upset that trump did it?

and why do criminals have the right to expect to not be separated from their kids during processing? isn’t that what we do with criminals while they’re being processed?
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Jim in CT
09-24-2021, 03:15 PM
He seems to not understand something could have happened? and a policy that is designed to make sure separation of families actually happen !
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you work in law enforcement, right? did you routinely see children staying with their parents while being processed through the system? or were they often separated.

if american citizens who break the law are separated from their kids for a time during processing, why do we give more benefit to foreign nationals who break the law?

Wayne, do you think it’s a good thing to discourage parents with children from crossing illegally? or is it smart to incentivize more adults to make the trip with children?

do you know what’s happening now? are we seeing more kids or less?
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spence
09-24-2021, 03:53 PM
Obama’s guy said that the obama
administration also separated families. you don’t quite admit that.
Jim, read my posts. Read your own factcheck posts.

so why didn’t you care when obama
separated children from parents, but you are upset that trump did it?
It wasn't news then because it was so rare.

and why do criminals have the right to expect to not be separated from their kids during processing? isn’t that what we do with criminals while they’re being processed?
Crossing the border is a misdemeanor. You don't take a baby from its mother over that.

wdmso
09-24-2021, 04:45 PM
first you say Republicans “claim” to see them, suggest isn’t they’re not really there.

now you’re saying they “only” see them on election day, meaning they ignore the others, which is the opposite of what you originally said.

which is it, does the gop make them
up, or ignore them, or are you saying they do both?

why would they ever ignore a large caravan? it’s a winning issue for them.

let’s make this simple enough even for you. please provide some examples of the gop either fabricating large caravans, or ignoring them ?
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Jim you. Do know caravans do not enter the United States correct

If all fearful the time from the right

Try being honest .. when do these caravans get reported by fox oan newsmax or politicians .. always prior to elections..

Also never said they ignored a good caravan . I said they missed the Haitian invasion while ignoring Americans with their Policy of just say NO to anything unless it’s a Trump lie then they say yes
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wdmso
09-24-2021, 04:50 PM
you work in law enforcement, right? did you routinely see children staying with their parents while being processed through the system? or were they often separated.

if american citizens who break the law are separated from their kids for a time during processing, why do we give more benefit to foreign nationals who break the law?

Wayne, do you think it’s a good thing to discourage parents with children from crossing illegally? or is it smart to incentivize more adults to make the trip with children?

do you know what’s happening now? are we seeing more kids or less?
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Jim crossing the border is not a felony it’s. Misdemeanor

Again making comparisons that are not remotely the same

Imagine how desperate parents are to send their kids alone … no deterrent will change that
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Jim in CT
09-24-2021, 08:54 PM
Jim crossing the border is not a felony it’s. Misdemeanor

Again making comparisons that are not remotely the same

Imagine how desperate parents are to send their kids alone … no deterrent will change that
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and while you’re getting processed for a misdemeanor, can you keep
your kids with you?

as to the whipping and trampling, the guy who took some of the widely shared photos, says there was no whipping or trampling. maybe, just maybe, he knows because he was there? and maybe biden shouldn’t be saying the BP agents are guilty before they start an investigation.
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scottw
09-25-2021, 03:09 AM
Jim you. Do know caravans do not enter the United States correct

If all fearful the time from the right

Try being honest .. when do these caravans get reported by fox oan newsmax or politicians .. always prior to elections..

Also never said they ignored a good caravan . I said they missed the Haitian invasion while ignoring Americans with their Policy of just say NO to anything unless it’s a Trump lie then they say yes

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this is bidenesque....

scottw
09-25-2021, 03:11 AM
Jim crossing the border is not a felony it’s. Misdemeanor


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crossing the border legally is legal...

crossing the border illegally is.....illegal

sounds like you are trying to say that they are crossing the border illegally

scottw
09-25-2021, 03:20 AM
oh no!!!...this from FAUX News Australia....damn trumplicans are all over the world spreading lies and hate about about great president????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1GUAD6Bmog

wdmso
09-25-2021, 06:33 AM
and while you’re getting processed for a misdemeanor, can you keep
your kids with you?

do the cops give your children back ? do they keep them for days week and months your everything is the same nonsense is very tiring.. now separation is separation

do you realize a misdemeanor does not require an arrest most are just a criminal summons when the last time you saw illigals in handcuffs


as to the whipping and trampling, the guy who took some of the widely shared photos, says there was no whipping or trampling. maybe, just maybe, he knows because he was there? and maybe biden shouldn’t be saying the BP agents are guilty before they start an investigation.

I ve only said they look like they were rounding up cattle not crowd control Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device


Bidens quote “I promise you, those people will pay. There will be an investigation, underway now, and there will be consequences. There will be consequences,” he said Friday. “It's an embarrassment, but beyond an embarrassment, it is dangerous. It’s wrong, it sends the wrong message around the world, it sends the wrong message at home. It's simply not who we are."


Now the right whats to support the BPA but the cops on Jan 6th not so much ... the right need to make up their minds

wdmso
09-25-2021, 06:39 AM
crossing the border legally is legal...

crossing the border illegally is.....illegal

sounds like you are trying to say that they are crossing the border illegally

it always has been a misdemeanor ..... even Trump did not change that

and the vast majority get sent back .. unless your a far right winger then you think they all stay in the US rape spread covid and other disease and illegally vote Democrat and steal Jobs .. like stealing an election its based on a feeling... feeling are the new facts for republicans

scottw
09-25-2021, 07:15 AM
Bidens quote “I promise you, those people will pay. There will be an investigation, underway now, and there will be consequences. There will be consequences,” he said Friday. “It's an embarrassment, but beyond an embarrassment, it is dangerous. It’s wrong, it sends the wrong message around the world, it sends the wrong message at home. It's simply not who we are."


Now the right whats to support the BPA but the cops on Jan 6th not so much ... the right need to make up their minds

biden is an a-hole....and I think we've all supported the cops arresting the wrong doers on Jan 6th, some were taking selfies with the trump crowd...not sure about DC... but trespassing is a misdemeanor in RI

scottw
09-25-2021, 07:17 AM
I ve only said they look like they were rounding up cattle not crowd control



when people run you have to chase them...

you DO understand the difference between American citizens gathering for a peaceful protest or whatever and foreigners pouring across our border without permission and with no intention of leaving....right????

wdmso
09-25-2021, 11:52 AM
when people run you have to chase them...

you DO understand the difference between American citizens gathering for a peaceful protest or whatever and foreigners pouring across our border without permission and with no intention of leaving....right????

they were removed or did you miss that part ? and no one is pouring over our borders just more right wing paranoia.... they will not replace us mantra is all :bs:

meanwhile republican Governor If you’re a parent in Arizona and your child’s school requires students to wear masks, Gov. Doug Ducey is offering $7,000 in federal COVID-19 relief funds to help you send your child elsewhere.

But bidens an Ahole ... classic

The Dad Fisherman
09-25-2021, 02:44 PM
I guess all 12,000 were airlifted in…

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/09/20/us/us-border-crisis-del-rio-texas/index.html
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scottw
09-26-2021, 03:18 AM
? and no one is pouring over our borders just more right wing paranoia....

you should watch the series that this guy did on the border situation...he is incredibly sympathetic to the migrants and their situation as most are....this was in April

according to PEW it's gotten worse since he was there...

AUGUST 13, 2021
Migrant encounters at U.S.-Mexico border are at a 21-year high
BY JOHN GRAMLICH
The U.S. Border Patrol reported nearly 200,000 encounters with migrants along the U.S.-Mexico border in July, the highest monthly total in more than two decades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WKr79n3JiE

scottw
09-26-2021, 03:20 AM
I'd assume the decision to use chain link dividers was made at a much lower level. Less than ideal but they needed a solution that was cheap and fast.

so under obama they were "chain link dividers"

under trump they were "cages"

gotcha....

wdmso
09-27-2021, 08:12 AM
you should watch the series that this guy did on the border situation...he is incredibly sympathetic to the migrants and their situation as most are....this was in April

according to PEW it's gotten worse since he was there...

AUGUST 13, 2021
Migrant encounters at U.S.-Mexico border are at a 21-year high
BY JOHN GRAMLICH
The U.S. Border Patrol reported nearly 200,000 encounters with migrants along the U.S.-Mexico border in July, the highest monthly total in more than two decades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WKr79n3JiE

I know people have never crossed the borders under any other POTUS

Not sure why people are surprised it’s the highest in 2 decades…. Look at what Covid done to big economy’s across the globe.. and the economy’s from these southern country’s went from bad to disaster with Covid.. and the last guy did nothing to stop illegal immigrants Covid help reduce the crossing temporarily they still came he did a great job of stopping legal immigrants that’s not debatable

Yet only the Right sees apprehensions as good under Republican shows they are catching them but apprehension under Democratic administration are twisted into they all stay no matter the evidence .,

That why 72 % of Republicans think Trump won ..
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wdmso
09-27-2021, 08:19 AM
I guess all 12,000 were airlifted in…

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/09/20/us/us-border-crisis-del-rio-texas/index.html
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I bet you think they were there because of the earthquake ?

Do you even know anything about this bridge?

The International Bridge provides a safe and efficient border crossing for all citizens and is a symbol of the cross-border relations that our city fosters with Ciudad Acuña, Mexico. The International Bridge is owned and operated by the City of Del Rio, accommodating vehicular, commercial and pedestrian traffic. It is open for crossing between Texas and Mexico 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and continues to have one of the shortest crossing times along the Texas-Mexico border making it the first choice for many tourists and businesses looking to enter into Mexico through Texas.
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The Dad Fisherman
09-27-2021, 08:50 AM
What’s that have to do with the price of rice in China?
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Jim in CT
09-27-2021, 09:34 AM
What’s that have to do with the price of rice in China?
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In his mind, it helps deflect blame away from the left, and that’s literally all that matters. the left can’t ever be wrong.
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wdmso
09-28-2021, 08:00 AM
What’s that have to do with the price of rice in China?
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A lot if your actually interested
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wdmso
09-28-2021, 08:08 AM
In his mind, it helps deflect blame away from the left, and that’s literally all that matters. the left can’t ever be wrong.
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How is the left to blame for Haitians traveling from South America ?
I know in your head illegals only come to America during when Democratic’s are in the White House
And only Republicans stops them..

So you didn’t know that bridge was an international crossing point

You like simple , the world is not black and white but keep insisting that it is …
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scottw
09-28-2021, 09:37 AM
What’s that have to do with the price of rice in China?
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I think he thinks the Haitians used the international bridge to get from Haiti to texas

wdmso
09-28-2021, 11:10 AM
I think he thinks the Haitians used the international bridge to get from Haiti to texas

And you think they swam recently

Who’s uninformed?
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scottw
09-28-2021, 12:41 PM
And you think they swam recently

Who’s uninformed?

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did I say that?