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detbuch
10-21-2021, 08:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5GiuWJqYJg

Pete F.
10-21-2021, 09:03 PM
Let me guess
the new right wing seer from South America
Glen Greenwald
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detbuch
10-21-2021, 10:27 PM
Let me guess
the new right wing seer from South America
Glen Greenwald
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Why would you have to guess? I know you avoid watching a video because you're not able to discuss or rebut what you think it is about--but his picture is staring you in the face, and you need to guess?

As I've said, you're a fraud.

And Greenwald is not right wing. The video does not support the right wing. But he is an equal opportunity opponent of authoritarianism. He briefly admits in the video that it's the Democrat party that's changed, not him. It left him, not the other way around. As far as guessing goes, I would guess he wants the Democrats to get back to being antagonistic to the anti-democratic threat of corporatism wedded to fascistic speech censoring liberty suppressing authoritarian government power muscled by the FBI and CIA and an autocratic regulatory apparatus.

He is far more in favor of the pre-Biden era Bernie Sanders than anything resembling the Republican Party. He is calling out the Democrats in order to get them back to being civil libertarians instead of the authoritarians they have become.

And in this video he is citing data compiled by the usual statisticians that even the left wing relies on. He didn't conjecture, guess, or fabricate the stats. They are what they are. And the Democrats are authoritarians.

scottw
10-22-2021, 03:33 AM
pete's rhetoric and that of his fellow travelers here is proof that greenwald is right....

Pete F.
10-22-2021, 06:27 AM
Glenn Greenwald is the patron saint of people who think they're libertarians but are really fascists.
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scottw
10-22-2021, 07:06 AM
Glenn Greenwald is the patron saint of people who think they're libertarians but are really fascists.
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actually, if examine what the democraps, tech, some industry and media are trying to do currently...you will recognize fascism...better fall in line or else.....

wdmso
10-22-2021, 08:46 AM
You tube where conservatives go to find their own experts …. I love this one because Dems trust the FBI and Republicans do not .. thats a data point greenwald uses to supports who’s authoritarian And yet 75% of Republicans think Trump won the election whats that called ? Oh wait I know Patriotism
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wdmso
10-22-2021, 08:56 AM
Oh wait he also makes the same comparison with trust in the media if you hate the media your not a authoritarian but if you support the media you are ? Wow this guy loves feeding a mindless base , who are full of sheep ! And he plays you by re enforcement of the lies you already believe are actually True .. to make money

Attack the deep state and get paid
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Jim in CT
10-22-2021, 09:20 AM
Oh wait he also makes the same comparison with trust in the media if you hate the media your not a authoritarian but if you support the media you are ? Wow this guy loves feeding a mindless base , who are full of sheep ! And he plays you by re enforcement of the lies you already believe are actually True .. to make money

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i don’t think ones feelings towards the media have anything to do with whether or not ones an authoritarian.

conservatives want less intrusion from government, more individual freedoms.

liberals want more rules set by the government and less ability for individuals to decide things for themselves.

That’s the way it is, those are accurate descriptions.
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Pete F.
10-22-2021, 10:12 AM
i don’t think ones feelings towards the media have anything to do with whether or not ones an authoritarian.

conservatives want less intrusion from government, more individual freedoms.
Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.
Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.

liberals want more rules set by the government and less ability for individuals to decide things for themselves.

That’s the way it is, those are accurate descriptions.
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For thousands of years, conservatism was universally understood as being in opposition to democracy. Having lost much of its ability to attack democracy openly, conservatism has tried in recent years to redefine the word "democracy" while engaging in deception to make the substance of democracy unthinkable.

Almost all of the early immigrants to America left behind societies that had been oppressed by conservatism. The democratic culture that Americans have built is truly one of the monuments of civilization. And American culture remains vibrant to this day despite centuries of conservative attack.

scottw
10-22-2021, 10:32 AM
For thousands of years, conservatism



WTF?..."let's go Brandon!"

scottw
10-22-2021, 10:33 AM
Attack the deep state and get paid

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so you are saying there is a deep state....

Pete F.
10-22-2021, 10:37 AM
WTF?..."let's go Brandon!"

Just as classy as Trumplican congressman
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Jim in CT
10-22-2021, 11:24 AM
For thousands of years, conservatism was universally understood as being in opposition to democracy. Having lost much of its ability to attack democracy openly, conservatism has tried in recent years to redefine the word "democracy" while engaging in deception to make the substance of democracy unthinkable.

Almost all of the early immigrants to America left behind societies that had been oppressed by conservatism. The democratic culture that Americans have built is truly one of the monuments of civilization. And American culture remains vibrant to this day despite centuries of conservative attack.

"Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy."

Oh. Conservatives want domination by an aristocracy? Is that why conservatives want citizens to enjoy lower taxes and easier access to guns? Because when regular people have guns and more of their own money, that makes it easier for aristocrats to dominate them, right?

I mean, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!

"Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general"

Which must explain why everyone is moving out of FL and TX, and re-locating to CA and NY, right?

Again, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!


"Conservatism is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice"

And that explains why conservatives fought to maintain slavery, right? And also explains why conservatives later fought to hold onto Jim Crow segregation? And it was the democrats who fought to end slavery and segregation! Aha!

Again, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!

I mean, that's just unassailable, fact-based, dripping-with-common-sense stuff there. Wow. We are very impressed.

It's liberals who want limited central government, and conservatives who want an all-powerful dictatorship. Obviously!

Jim in CT
10-22-2021, 11:25 AM
WTF?..."let's go Brandon!"

That was way, way out there, even for him.

wdmso
10-22-2021, 11:44 AM
i don’t think ones feelings towards the media have anything to do with whether or not ones an authoritarian.

conservatives want less intrusion from government, more individual freedoms.

liberals want more rules set by the government and less ability for individuals to decide things for themselves.

That’s the way it is, those are accurate descriptions.
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Jim conservatives only support the freedoms they agree with ! they don’t care about other Americans freedoms.. just look at the law they pass .. or try to pass freedom is just a catch phrase,, and I hate to say it’s Republicans who have expanded government after 9/11 and Dems went along

And it’s. Lie to suggest liberals want less freedoms.. that’s conservative brainwashing and seems it’s working


Liberal

willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
2.
relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.

Conservative

1.
averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.

(in a political context) favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.

Even Webster won’t say conservatives care about individual rights
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scottw
10-22-2021, 12:02 PM
Jim conservatives only support the freedoms they agree with ! they don’t care about other Americans freedoms..


Liberal

willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
2.
relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.

Conservative

1.
averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.

(in a political context) favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.

Even Webster won’t say conservatives care about individual rights
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really?

oh good, more cut and paste from the dictionary

Jim in CT
10-22-2021, 12:06 PM
Jim conservatives only support the freedoms they agree with ! they don’t care about other Americans freedoms.. just look at the law they pass .. or try to pass freedom is just a catch phrase,, and I hate to say it’s Republicans who have expanded government after 9/11 and Dems went along

And it’s. Lie to suggest liberals want less freedoms.. that’s conservative brainwashing and seems it’s working


Liberal

willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
2.
relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.

Conservative

1.
averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.

(in a political context) favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.

Even Webster won’t say conservatives care about individual rights
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"Jim conservatives only support the freedoms they agree with !"

Oh, so it's the democrats who support freedoms they don't agree with. Like the freedom to ask questions at a BOE meeting.

"Republicans who have expanded government after 9/11"

Wanting increased safety, isn't contrary to conservatism. It's one of the things they want government to do.

"And it’s. Lie to suggest liberals want less freedoms"

Like freedom to not wear a mask, freedom to go to church during a pandemic if BLM riots are allowed to take place, freedom to not have my tax dollars go to teachers unions, and from there to Planned Parenthood and to democrats.

Pete F.
10-22-2021, 12:12 PM
"Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy."

Oh. Conservatives want domination by an aristocracy? Is that why conservatives want citizens to enjoy lower taxes and easier access to guns? Because when regular people have guns and more of their own money, that makes it easier for aristocrats to dominate them, right?
How far do you think Yall Queda would get against drones?
https://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/air-strikes/top-10-infrared-kills/4646339250001

I mean, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!

"Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general"

Which must explain why everyone is moving out of FL and TX, and re-locating to CA and NY, right?

Again, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!


"Conservatism is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice"

And that explains why conservatives fought to maintain slavery, right? And also explains why conservatives later fought to hold onto Jim Crow segregation? And it was the democrats who fought to end slavery and segregation! Aha!

You missed that week in history, though a catholic school education probably didn't tell you about the change in the Republican party.
The Republican Party in the South consciously chose to exclude blacks early in the 20th century, which helped it to dominate Southern politics decades later.

Southern black voters used to support Republicans
Right after the Civil War, black voters were the Republican Party’s main supporters in the South. When formerly enslaved blacks became eligible to vote and run for office, they voted for the party of Lincoln, and GOP state organizations in the South were biracial. Both blacks and whites held leadership positions in the party.

Beginning in the early 1870s, Southern Democrats — in cooperation with terrorist groups like the Ku Klux Klan — began to restrict black suffrage. They did so first through direct violence and intimidation and, later, by passing legislation to effectively disenfranchise black citizens. As a result, the GOP lost its core constituency.

Again, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!

I mean, that's just unassailable, fact-based, dripping-with-common-sense stuff there. Wow. We are very impressed.

It's liberals who want limited central government, and conservatives who want an all-powerful dictatorship. Obviously!

Knowledge is best produced in a liberal culture. This is why the most prosperous and innovative regions of the United States are also the most politically liberal, and why the most conservative regions of the country are also the greatest beneficiaries of transfer payments. Liberals create wealth and government redistributes it to conservatives. This is, of course, the opposite of the received conservative opinion in the media, and indeed in most of academia. But it is true.

scottw
10-22-2021, 12:21 PM
Knowledge is best produced in a liberal culture. This is why the most prosperous and innovative regions of the United States are also the most politically liberal(and they have the best tent cities), and why the most conservative regions of the country are also the greatest beneficiaries of transfer payments. Liberals create wealth and government redistributes it to conservatives. This is, of course, the opposite of the received conservative opinion in the media, and indeed in most of academia. But it is true.

this is amusing....I think you are confusing liberal with communist

there is nothing "liberal" about today's democrats based on wayne's offered definition

"Liberal

willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas. nope
2.
relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise." definitely nope

Jim in CT
10-22-2021, 01:13 PM
Knowledge is best produced in a liberal culture. This is why the most prosperous and innovative regions of the United States are also the most politically liberal, and why the most conservative regions of the country are also the greatest beneficiaries of transfer payments. Liberals create wealth and government redistributes it to conservatives. This is, of course, the opposite of the received conservative opinion in the media, and indeed in most of academia. But it is true.

knowledge? or indoctrination?

yes liberalism is awesome. again, that’s why everyone is leaving TX and FL and moving to CA and NY and CT. and why the liberal states have such low taxes and such healthy balance sheets.
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Pete F.
10-22-2021, 01:24 PM
"Jim conservatives only support the freedoms they agree with !"

Oh, so it's the democrats who support freedoms they don't agree with. Like the freedom to ask questions at a BOE meeting.

There's a huge difference between parents expressing their views, even in an agitated fashion, which they're entitled to do & threats or violence against school board members & school employees. You're falling for the political stunt here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhaMV_qgdsQ

"Republicans who have expanded government after 9/11"

Wanting increased safety, isn't contrary to conservatism. It's one of the things they want government to do.

"And it’s. Lie to suggest liberals want less freedoms"

Like freedom to not wear a mask, What's airborne spread like? Can ya smell cigarette smoke from that guy 20 feet away? Got it? freedom to go to church during a pandemic if BLM riots are allowed to take place Riots of which there were few are illegal, would you like to make protests illegal?, freedom to not have my tax dollars go to teachers unions, But they go to police unions? and from there to Planned Parenthood and to democrats. and Right to life and Trumplicans

That's the price of living in a civil society

As a Texas politician said: "This prohibition against vaccine mandates is like as if the governor were telling me that I can’t issue an order to evacuate the coastal areas when a hurricane is barreling toward us."

Jim in CT
10-22-2021, 01:52 PM
That's the price of living in a civil society



Meaning, when liberals like it, they'll take freedoms away. Yet you said conservatives only support freedoms they like. You forgot to mention that everyone does that.

Why do liberal states have such high taxes, yet so much debt? Here in CT, we give an enormous amount of money to the state, yet our debt currently works out to nearly $100,000 for every taxpayer in the state. How does that happen? Why is that so common in liberal states (CT, MA, NY, NJ. IL)?

Pete F.
10-22-2021, 02:13 PM
knowledge? or indoctrination?

yes liberalism is awesome. again, that’s why everyone is leaving TX and FL and moving to CA and NY and CT. and why the liberal states have such low taxes and such healthy balance sheets.
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And Texas and Florida are getting bluer each year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKIe7sb9QWQ

wdmso
10-22-2021, 03:06 PM
"Jim conservatives only support the freedoms they agree with !"

Oh, so it's the democrats who support freedoms they don't agree with. Like the freedom to ask questions at a BOE meeting.

"Republicans who have expanded government after 9/11"

Wanting increased safety, isn't contrary to conservatism. It's one of the things they want government to do.

"And it’s. Lie to suggest liberals want less freedoms"

Like freedom to not wear a mask, freedom to go to church during a pandemic if BLM riots are allowed to take place, freedom to not have my tax dollars go to teachers unions, and from there to Planned Parenthood and to democrats.

Jim you and the right use the word freedom as a catch phrase there no meaning behind it just look at your BS examples suggesting no liberals go to church or want to be rid of masks or control where their tax money goes !
And you throw BLM in for good measure.. it’s all smoke and mirrors with the trump Republicans

As I said look at their legislation? Or lack of legislation

Ban this ban that the only thing Republicans seem expand are laws for gun owners , or tax breaks for the rich which are not paid for then claim to be fiscally responsible and freedom 1st
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Jim in CT
10-22-2021, 03:14 PM
Jim you and the right use the word freedom as a catch phrase there no meaning behind it just look at your BS examples suggesting no liberals go to church or want to be rid of masks or control where their tax money goes !
And you throw BLM in for good measure.. it’s all smoke and mirrors with the trump Republicans

As I said look at their legislation? Or lack of legislation

Ban this ban that the only thing Republicans seem expand are laws for gun owners , or tax breaks for the rich which are not paid for then claim to be fiscally responsible and freedom 1st
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if you don’t like the way it feels when i say freedom ( actually pete said it, and you didn’t care when he said it), that’s your problem.
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Jim in CT
10-22-2021, 03:24 PM
As I said look at their legislation? Or lack of legislation

Ban this ban that the only thing Republicans seem expand are laws for gun owners ,
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you have a pattern of contradicting yourself from sentence to sentence.

in one sentence you criticize republicans for not enacting legislation ( which is what always happens to the minority party) then you say they ban this, ban that.

if they’re not doing anything, how do they ban everything?

you should try reading your posts before you actually post.

“tax cuts for the rich”.

a proven lie. proven. i’m not rich, i got a nice tax cut. they doubled the standard deduction,,which doesn’t help anyone who’s rich.

cbs looked at three families to see the effect of the tax cuts. a single mom making 40k a year saved $1300 a year. is she rich, wayne?

they drastically increased the child tax credit. helps lots of people
who aren’t rich. rich people are t eligible for that credit. it’s phased out for higher incomes

Duh.

if the conservative agenda is so bad, why did a record number of americans say they were better off in 2020 than 4 years ago? a record number of americans identified as better off after 4 years of trump, o president ever did as well o. Gallup’s poll. and that was at the height of covid.

people hated trump’s antics. they liked his agenda. how else can you explain that poll?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/how-the-tax-bill-will-affect-three-american-families/


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scottw
10-22-2021, 05:05 PM
suggesting no liberals go to church


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When did Jim say liberals don’t go to church?
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wdmso
10-22-2021, 05:19 PM
When did Jim say liberals don’t go to church?
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Another one who can’t understand the word suggest . So what was Jim suggesting he did use liberals in his example

And it’s. Lie to suggest liberals want less freedoms"

Like freedom to not wear a mask, freedom to go to church during a pandemic
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spence
10-22-2021, 05:35 PM
You guys do realize he just posts stuff like this to make money off of right wing sites right?

wdmso
10-22-2021, 05:50 PM
Seven students are suing a Texas school district over its dress-code policy banning boys from having long hair.
School officials suspended a 9-year-old boy for a month, barred him from recess and normal lunch breaks as punishment for long hair, the lawsuit claims.


FREEDOM!!!!!
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wdmso
10-22-2021, 05:55 PM
You guys do realize he just posts stuff like this to make money off of right wing sites right?

Spence the truth is not allowed when talking about right wing YouTube stars

It’s all about small government and Freedom …. Never about the money
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Pete F.
10-22-2021, 06:38 PM
Biden brings down Trump’s record-setting deficit by $360 billion in one year.
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detbuch
10-22-2021, 06:51 PM
Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.

The person you are quoting here (and not giving him credit for it) is applying the general denotational aspect of the word "conservatism" (a conservation of something) to an aristocratic society. And so, if a society is being dominated by an aristocracy, "conservatism" would conserve that domination.

Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.

Here he narrows the definition into a specific political label. The problem with applying this to his aforementioned "aristocracy" is that not all political systems are aristocracies. So, in those that aren't, "conservatism" would not conserve the domination of an aristocracy.

If the political system were a "democracy" (whatever he means by that) then "conservatism" would conserve a "democracy." Ergo, I presume, he would not consider it "destructive" and it would have a place in his notion of the "modern world."

For thousands of years, conservatism was universally understood as being in opposition to democracy. Having lost much of its ability to attack democracy openly, conservatism has tried in recent years to redefine the word "democracy" while engaging in deception to make the substance of democracy unthinkable.

Here he is transporting the political labels "conservatism" and "democracy" via wdmso's time machine into "thousands of years" ago where his current, mostly undefined, notion of what they mean did not exist. And back into a time when there was no universal understanding.

And he speaks of this thousands of years old "conservatism" attacking "democracy." But doesn't really define either. In fact, somewhere in the long essay from which you quote, he says something to the effect that democracy has not yet been fully realized and that we are still striving to grow a democratic culture. He doesn't say how conservatism has tried to redefine the word democracy--but how do you redefine something that is still in progress?

Almost all of the early immigrants to America left behind societies that had been oppressed by conservatism. The democratic culture that Americans have built is truly one of the monuments of civilization. And American culture remains vibrant to this day despite centuries of conservative attack.

Philip E. Agre, whom you are quoting (without the proper attribution) can't seem to wrap his mind around the notion that American "conservatism" as it expresses itself is all about preserving that monument of civilization rather than attacking it for "centuries."

He doesn't get that American so-called "conservatism" is not the same as European conservatism. Nor the same as his reputed thousands of years of what he calls conservatism dating, presumably, back to the pharaohs, or maybe even before that.

The reason I don't like to use the term "conservative" and usually put it in quotes when I do, is because it is more a vague political label that means different things to different people. Usually, the context, tells what it is supposed to mean. But it is not a useful political term when speaking in general or "universal" contexts, such as how Agre did in the essay you were quoting from.

And, BTW, that essay was written 17 years ago, and the Democrat party was still evolving then and has done so precipitously since then into the authoritarians that would not fit Agre's notion of "liberal" nor even, I presume (since I don't know exactly what he means by the word), his idea of "democratic." The present Democrat party would, in many respects, fit Agre's notion of "conservatism." Glenn Greenwald has been pointing that out over the past five or so years. And I believe Greenwald would pretty much agree with most of Agre's ideas on creating a democratic culture.

scottw
10-22-2021, 07:06 PM
Another one who can’t understand the word suggest . So what was Jim suggesting


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He wasn’t suggesting liberals don’t go to church
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wdmso
10-23-2021, 07:32 AM
He wasn’t suggesting liberals don’t go to church
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You’ve always been a mind reader 😂
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Jim in CT
10-23-2021, 09:20 AM
He wasn’t suggesting liberals don’t go to church
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i wasn’t, but i could have been. we. cant agree that liberals are less faithful than observations? conservatives aren’t more religious?

doesn’t mean no liberals go to church, but conservatives are much more serious about religion. duh.
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detbuch
10-24-2021, 09:32 PM
Seven students are suing a Texas school district over its dress-code policy banning boys from having long hair.
School officials suspended a 9-year-old boy for a month, barred him from recess and normal lunch breaks as punishment for long hair, the lawsuit claims.


FREEDOM!!!!!


We have compulsory education for children between a range of ages between 5-16. Under current law, they are not FREE to begin with. And within various districts various codes of conduct or acceptable behavior are enforced. All of this is a result of "democracy." The majority has decided it to be so. FREEDOM and democracy are not synonymous. "Our Democracy" provides for the majority in given districts to require certain conduct in the schools.

I'm guessing you want us to be a "democracy." If the majority continues to give districts the power to require appropriate conduct, as well as the power to teach things that various parents think is harmful to their children, "our democracy" will empower schools to do so.

We still have access to redress and relief in the court system. But that has become increasingly shaky, depending on how judges feel or "interpret."

Jim in CT
10-25-2021, 08:02 AM
Seven students are suing a Texas school district over its dress-code policy banning boys from having long hair.
School officials suspended a 9-year-old boy for a month, barred him from recess and normal lunch breaks as punishment for long hair, the lawsuit claims.


FREEDOM!!!!!
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did anyone ever say that republicans want no laws/rules? You're responding to something that no one ever said.

I've never actually heard anyone deny that conservatives want fewer impositions on individual liberty (overall...not on every single individual issue) than liberals. You're making history here Wayne, you're denying that conservatives want smaller (but not zero) government intrusion into our lives.

In the last few days, you have refused to accept the NSBAs admission that they lied in their letter to Biden. In the same sentence, you have accused conservatives of both doing nothing, and of banning everything. Now you're saying (I think? It's hard to follow) conservatives want the government to control every aspect of what we wear, and how we wear our hair? One school district in TX, speaks for all of the conservatives in the country?

You think it's fair to take one extreme example, and apply that to all conservatives? Does the Loudon County school boars speak for you? When they explicitly lied to cover up a rape in school (We now know for a fact that's exactly what happened), does that say anything about all democrats? Can I use your logic, and say that therefore you are in favor of protecting rapists?

Wayne, how about we hold people accountable for what they say and do, not blame people for what others say and do?

If you refuse to take off the tin foil hat, at least loosen the straps a little.

scottw
10-25-2021, 08:14 AM
good grief...

According to its dress code policy, boys cannot wear their hair over their eyes, past the bottom of their ears, or past the bottom of a dress shirt collar.

The suit, filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Texas (ACLU) on Thursday on behalf of the students, argues the school district "imposed immense and irreparable harm... solely because of these students' gender".


I wonder if the ACLU is suing the Loudoun school district for allowing a gender confused boy to rape a couple of girls in their girl's bathrooms and then cover it up because that seems to me to be more "immense and irreparable" harm than a haircut....

Jim in CT
10-25-2021, 08:23 AM
good grief...

According to its dress code policy, boys cannot wear their hair over their eyes, past the bottom of their ears, or past the bottom of a dress shirt collar.

The suit, filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Texas (ACLU) on Thursday on behalf of the students, argues the school district "imposed immense and irreparable harm... solely because of these students' gender".


I wonder if the ACLU is suing the Loudoun school district for allowing a gender confused boy to rape a couple of girls in their girl's bathrooms and then cover it up because that seems to me to be more "immense and irreparable" harm than a haircut....

At a BOE meeting, the superintendent of Loudon county schools said he had no record of any assault in his schools. Then an email surfaced that he sent a week before that meeting, where he alerted some school employees to the rape. So we now know for an absolute certainty that he lied to the father of the victim at a public meeting. And he's still the superintendent. Still collecting a huge salary, funded by taxpayers like the victims father. You cannot make that up. He covered up a rape.

This is precisely how Trump got elected. The left is too stupid to see it, unless their plan is actually to get the right so angry that they nominate Trump again. In which case it's brilliant.

wdmso
10-25-2021, 10:05 AM
good grief...

According to its dress code policy, boys cannot wear their hair over their eyes, past the bottom of their ears, or past the bottom of a dress shirt collar.

The suit, filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Texas (ACLU) on Thursday on behalf of the students, argues the school district "imposed immense and irreparable harm... solely because of these students' gender".


I wonder if the ACLU is suing the Loudoun school district for allowing a gender confused boy to rape a couple of girls in their girl's bathrooms and then cover it up because that seems to me to be more "immense and irreparable" harm than a haircut....

The Loudoun County sheriff’s office has confirmed the facts of this story too, but the suspect’s name is not yet public because he is a juvenile.

So not seeing the cover up

Don’t forget the Afghan rapist start yelling send them back

Anything for outrage ….suggesting it’s rampant Keep it up
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wdmso
10-25-2021, 10:07 AM
At a BOE meeting, the superintendent of Loudon county schools said he had no record of any assault in his schools. Then an email surfaced that he sent a week before that meeting, where he alerted some school employees to the rape. So we now know for an absolute certainty that he lied to the father of the victim at a public meeting. And he's still the superintendent. Still collecting a huge salary, funded by taxpayers like the victims father. You cannot make that up. He covered up a rape.

This is precisely how Trump got elected. The left is too stupid to see it, unless their plan is actually to get the right so angry that they nominate Trump again. In which case it's brilliant.

Jim they were minors there are laws
But you only want them followed when you agree with them .

I got it. Ps Trump wasn’t re elected was he ..

Trumps a seditious traitor but keep supporting him
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Jim in CT
10-25-2021, 10:43 AM
Jim they were minors there are laws
But you only want them followed when you agree with them .

I got it. Ps Trump wasn’t re elected was he ..

Trumps a seditious traitor but keep supporting him
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you are about as dense as it gets.

if the superintendent said “there are minors involved, so i can’t comment on it”, that’s one thing. that’s not what he said. he denied having any knowledge that any assault took place, and said that the alleged bathroom rapist “does not exist,”

you can’t see what’s right in front of you, unless it paints liberalism favorably, can you?

seriously, are you really this dense? or are you just messing with me?

Read. What. He. Said.

Again, this superintendent, who we all know is a liberal, made a disgusting public lie. you’re mad at that. don’t take that out on me, your beef is with him. he covered up a rape, not me.

they also just sent the rapist to another school without telling them what he did. so he promptly assaulted another girl.

that county is a hot mess, and it’s blue. and it’s a perfect example of why it appears for now at least, that a reliably blue state has a close race for governor. this has no business being a close race, but liberals there are acting like they’re trying to help the republicans win.
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wdmso
10-25-2021, 10:43 AM
Trump Hits Fox for Running Pro-Democrat Ads

Former President Donald Trump on Sunday slammed Fox News for running commercials that are critical of him while guests and hosts say positive things about him and his ideas.

"What good is it if FOX News speaks well of me when they continually allow horrible and untruthful anti-Trump commercials to be run — and plenty of them," Trump said in a statement released through his Save America PAC.

But he’s not he’s not an authoritarian ! Keep those head firmly planted in the sand
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Jim in CT
10-25-2021, 10:48 AM
Trump Hits Fox for Running Pro-Democrat Ads

Former President Donald Trump on Sunday slammed Fox News for running commercials that are critical of him while guests and hosts say positive things about him and his ideas.

"What good is it if FOX News speaks well of me when they continually allow horrible and untruthful anti-Trump commercials to be run — and plenty of them," Trump said in a statement released through his Save America PAC.

But he’s not he’s not an authoritarian ! Keep those head firmly planted in the sand
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so anyone who expresses an opinion, juvenile though it may be, is an authoritarian.

no fascist dictator would let cnn and msnbc talk about him, they way he let them talk about him.

you lose. again.

trump is a lot of bad things. he’s obviously no authoritarian who tries to shut down unfriendly media.
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Jim in CT
10-25-2021, 10:50 AM
wayne, oil way up again. going to $100 without a doubt. its all trumps fault.
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scottw
10-25-2021, 11:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso View Post
Jim they were minors there are laws



you are about as dense as it gets.


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wait till he figures out that there are laws against rape :uhuh:

Jim in CT
10-25-2021, 11:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso View Post
Jim they were minors there are laws



wait till he figures out that there are laws against rape :uhuh:

it’s ok to say there was no rape, because the rapist was a minor. that’s what he’s saying. brilliant.

a political disaster for them.
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Pete F.
10-25-2021, 12:13 PM
If you’re an evangelical, prayer cures all.

Liberty University, founded by Jerry Falwell, threatened to punish students who reported being raped.

An official told us he was just fired for raising concerns. He called it “conspiracy of silence.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/the-liberty-way-how-liberty-university-discourages-and-dismisses-students-reports-of-sexual-assaults
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wdmso
10-25-2021, 02:51 PM
so anyone who expresses an opinion, juvenile though it may be, is an authoritarian.

no fascist dictator would let cnn and msnbc talk about him, they way he let them talk about him.

you lose. again.

trump is a lot of bad things. he’s obviously no authoritarian who tries to shut down unfriendly media.
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once again your more upset at a random person

than the former POTUS past and current words and statements

he's just juvenile :faga:

wdmso
10-25-2021, 03:48 PM
you are about as dense as it gets.

if the superintendent said “there are minors involved, so i can’t comment on it”, that’s one thing. that’s not what he said. he denied having any knowledge that any assault took place, and said that the alleged bathroom rapist “does not exist,”

you can’t see what’s right in front of you, unless it paints liberalism favorably, can you?

seriously, are you really this dense? or are you just messing with me?

Read. What. He. Said.

Again, this superintendent, who we all know is a liberal, made a disgusting public lie. you’re mad at that. don’t take that out on me, your beef is with him. he covered up a rape, not me.

they also just sent the rapist to another school without telling them what he did. so he promptly assaulted another girl.

that county is a hot mess, and it’s blue. and it’s a perfect example of why it appears for now at least, that a reliably blue state has a close race for governor. this has no business being a close race, but liberals there are acting like they’re trying to help the republicans win.
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not sure why everything you post is some grand conspiracy tied to the NSBA letter ? because let be clear this is the driving reason this story in a google search shows Right-wing figures and media outlets have seized on Smith’s allegations as proof that allowing transgender students to use the bathroom that corresponds with their gender identity is dangerous.


Dan Crenshaw
Do you get it now? Keep men out of women’s bathrooms. I can’t believe this story. It’s heartbreaking.

Parents: don’t stop. Keep up the fight.




Just like the alleged Rape in Montana by a 19 year old afghan on a 18 year old

The governor, along with U.S. Rep. Matt Rosendale, is calling for a re-evaluation of the vetting process before resettlement efforts can be continued in Montana.

halt the placement of refugees here until they can assure us that the people that are being placed -- our allies have been fully vetted,”

vetted people cant commit crimes


Rape isn't a political position

maybe someone Republicans should be reminded of that . because they are doing a hell of job making it one

Jim in CT
10-25-2021, 04:02 PM
wayne, not everything is a grand conspiracy.

but not everything is as you say, either.

a girl was raped.

then the superintendent emailed school staff informing them of the rape.

then at a boe meeting, he said he saw no information that a rape had happened.

i say he lied.

you say he was bound to say that because of laws regarding minors

one of us has this right, the other one is a lunatic who will grasp
any straw to keep his side from looking bad.
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Pete F.
10-25-2021, 06:31 PM
If you’re an evangelical, prayer cures all.

Liberty University, founded by Jerry Falwell, threatened to punish students who reported being raped.

An official told us he was just fired for raising concerns. He called it “conspiracy of silence.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/the-liberty-way-how-liberty-university-discourages-and-dismisses-students-reports-of-sexual-assaults
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By Jim’s measure, all evangelicals are bad.
But remember the mantra: right wing good, Democrats bad
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Pete F.
10-25-2021, 06:39 PM
Congratulations to greewald, whose appearance on Tucker Carlson led Philip Weisbecker to incriminate himself.
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detbuch
10-25-2021, 11:26 PM
Congratulations to greewald, whose appearance on Tucker Carlson led Philip Weisbecker to incriminate himself.
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He's not always right, but he's often good at exposing the truth. Apparently, re Weisbecker, he can do it without even trying. He even causes you to make up stupid and obvious lies about him, exposing what a fraud you are.

Pete F.
10-26-2021, 01:34 AM
He's not always right, but he's often good at exposing the truth. Apparently, re Weisbecker, he can do it without even trying. He even causes you to make up stupid and obvious lies about him, exposing what a fraud you are.

When the bots come after me, that’s when I know I’m doing it right.
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wdmso
10-26-2021, 05:44 AM
wayne, not everything is a grand conspiracy.


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Then why does the right attempt to present them as such ?

So far this incident is seen as Dems being authoritarian , NSBA letter calling parents domestic terrorist , some morphed into Garland kids and CRT payback , and Transgenders are dangerous be afraid .

Yet anything related to Jan 6th Trumps continuous attacks against the election , claiming privileges he does not have , via lawsuits and his people refusing to testify in front of the committee. Get supported from the right

But this school superintendent is enemy number 1 and Alex Baldwin is enemy #2 because of his impersonating Trump.

The oldest Trump son, Donald Jr., is hawking $27.99 T-shirts on his official site with the mocking slogan: “Guns don’t kill people, Alec Baldwin kills people.

Seems the apple doesn’t fall far from the Tree .. and many in the MAGA cult see this as strength..

It’s all to predictable
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Jim in CT
10-26-2021, 06:36 AM
Then why does the right attempt to present them as such ?

So far this incident is seen as Dems being authoritarian , NSBA letter calling parents domestic terrorist , some morphed into Garland kids and CRT payback , and Transgenders are dangerous be afraid .

Yet anything related to Jan 6th Trumps continuous attacks against the election , claiming privileges he does not have , via lawsuits and his people refusing to testify in front of the committee. Get supported from the right

But this school superintendent is enemy number 1 and Alex Baldwin is enemy #2 because of his impersonating Trump.

The oldest Trump son, Donald Jr., is hawking $27.99 T-shirts on his official site with the mocking slogan: “Guns don’t kill people, Alec Baldwin kills people.

Seems the apple doesn’t fall far from the Tree .. and many in the MAGA cult see this as strength..

It’s all to predictable
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i don’t think anyone said the superintendent is public enemy #1.

wayne, did the superintendent lie at a public meeting about the rape at one of his schools? yes or no?
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wdmso
10-26-2021, 11:23 AM
i don’t think anyone said the superintendent is public enemy #1.

wayne, did the superintendent lie at a public meeting about the rape at one of his schools? yes or no?
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Jim if you read conservatives websites and comments on news sites the message is clear

Republican Glenn Youngkin is highlighting cases of alleged sex crimes in schools to help repair the GOP's standing in the Virginia suburbs, where educated moms and dads have turned against Donald Trump’s Republican Party.

What other tragedy awaits Virginia’s children?” an atypically grim-faced Youngkin asked from the podium, flanked by a collection of parents and schoolchildren.

Yep the the party of fear hard at work
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Jim in CT
10-26-2021, 11:37 AM
Jim if you read conservatives websites and comments on news sites the message is clear

Republican Glenn Youngkin is highlighting cases of alleged sex crimes in schools to help repair the GOP's standing in the Virginia suburbs, where educated moms and dads have turned against Donald Trump’s Republican Party.

What other tragedy awaits Virginia’s children?” an atypically grim-faced Youngkin asked from the podium, flanked by a collection of parents and schoolchildren.

Yep the the party of fear hard at work
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you ignored my question, shocker.

did the superintendent lie about having knowledge that a rape took place at his school? yes or no?
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