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nightfighter
10-25-2021, 10:45 AM
I would like to hear thoughts about returning this to a fishing site first. My first move would be to make the Political Forum accessible only through a password, similar to the ones once used in the Cutty and MV forums. If you want to continue with all that, at least here, it would still continue to exist, BEHIND THE CURTAIN.... Anything political posted in the public fishing forums would be A. removed, or B. moved to the PF by a moderator with no warnings. This way political circle jerk doesn't come up dominating the new threads search, and might even encourage more fishing posts...
What say you? We all have our political opinions, but must they be allowed to dominate a fishing site? John's fishing site? Maybe some of us old guys could lead the change back to the more social camaraderie we used to enjoy here.

EliTheBeerGuy
10-25-2021, 11:01 AM
I would LOVE to get rid of the political posts, or at least make it more difficult to see them. I was recently poking around the site trying to figure out a way to "hide" that topic from my view (the same way I hide my friends on facebook that post too much political crap).

You have my full support. How can I help?

On that note, if you can pull it off to get rid of the political stuff, I'm interested in joining as a site sponsor.

rphud
10-25-2021, 11:14 AM
I would suggest updating the moderators so folks with time to do so can keep things on an even keel. Feel free to step up. I can likely do some moderating.

Got Stripers
10-25-2021, 11:33 AM
I’d vote to eliminate the political forum completely, why even keep it as it seems to only have a negative impact on this site.

fishbones
10-25-2021, 11:57 AM
The problem isn’t the political forum. No one is forced to go in there and if you don’t like it, stay out. The problem with this site is that there are rarely any posts about fishing. It would be great to see posts about people catching fish or what lures or techniques are working. Unfortunately, I think most people post on FB now because they have a bigger audience and want to see how many “likes” they get for posting a pic of a fish they caught.
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afterhours
10-25-2021, 12:12 PM
[QUOTE=fishbones;1216347]The problem isn’t the political forum.


It's like driving by an accident, hard not to look.

milo
10-25-2021, 12:18 PM
I agree Ross we need more fish posts or fish related post. I have my password, don’tgothere, that’s all
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scottw
10-25-2021, 12:43 PM
The problem isn’t the political forum. No one is forced to go in there and if you don’t like it, stay out. The problem with this site is that there are rarely any posts about fishing. It would be great to see posts about people catching fish or what lures or techniques are working. Unfortunately, I think most people post on FB now because they have a bigger audience and want to see how many “likes” they get for posting a pic of a fish they caught.
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ding....ding...ding....:claps:

I motion that all the guys complaining about the political forum refrain from visiting it and focus on starting interesting fishing threads

JohnR
10-25-2021, 01:16 PM
The problem isn’t the political forum. No one is forced to go in there and if you don’t like it, stay out. The problem with this site is that there are rarely any posts about fishing. It would be great to see posts about people catching fish or what lures or techniques are working. Unfortunately, I think most people post on FB now because they have a bigger audience and want to see how many “likes” they get for posting a pic of a fish they caught.
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^^^^

t_man7
10-25-2021, 02:36 PM
The problem isn’t the political forum. No one is forced to go in there and if you don’t like it, stay out. The problem with this site is that there are rarely any posts about fishing. It would be great to see posts about people catching fish or what lures or techniques are working. Unfortunately, I think most people post on FB now because they have a bigger audience and want to see how many “likes” they get for posting a pic of a fish they caught.
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Sad but true.
I’m 14 and greatly prefer the site over Facebook.

piemma
10-25-2021, 02:45 PM
I don't go to the PF. There's no need for me to express my political beliefs nor is there a need to critique every political post that is made.

If you don't like it, don't go there. No one is forcing anyone to visit that Forum.

I agree that there aren't enough fishing post and I am guilty as I haven't fished much since I sold my boat.

Hopefully that will change.

I think the site needs some updating but I know John has a "day job" and doesn't have the time to devote to the site that he use to. The revenue generated by the site probably just about keeps the lights on.

The Dad Fisherman
10-25-2021, 02:51 PM
Well, you guys are the members, start posting. Maybe the plug guys start a plug of the week thread in the plug forum. Maybe start some historical threads about surfcasting, bump up the ones from the past so new members can read them and older members can relive them, guys who go togging, start some threads, guys who go ground fishing, start some threads, fly fisherman and guys who tie flies, threads.

If you want the political forum to wane, give people other reasons to come here.

Right now you're sitting in your truck going "take me somewhere" but you're not putting the key in the ignition or gas in the tank.
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Higgie
10-25-2021, 03:34 PM
The problem isn’t the political forum. No one is forced to go in there and if you don’t like it, stay out. The problem with this site is that there are rarely any posts about fishing. It would be great to see posts about people catching fish or what lures or techniques are working. Unfortunately, I think most people post on FB now because they have
a bigger audience and want to see
how many “likes” they get for posting a pic of a fish they caught.
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^^^^
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scottw
10-25-2021, 03:41 PM
Sad but true.
I’m 14 and greatly prefer the site over Facebook.

this is very cool, you have me thinking about being 14 and loving to fish at every opportunity...I had a little pouch that I got at the Army Navy store with a blue and white Atom popper, a blue/silver Kastmaster and a black/silver Rebel and that was what I rolled with...drove the 10 speed to the jetty or beach

I miss fishing with mono....not really :laugha:

Hookedagain
10-25-2021, 06:50 PM
I'm not so sure Facebook is the reason this site has minimal new content. We have a Facebook page and the last post was from March 24, 2018. I'm not saying we should all post there instead of here but if all of us are on Facebook, why aren't there any post on the SB page? I am just as guilty as the next guy for not posting. Life kind of got in the way for a while. Working two jobs, taking care of the old folks, going to watch the boy play baseball in college....and so on. I check in daily but haven't fished a whole lot so I have nothing to share. I think we need to just start talking about what little fishing we do. Or if you are the certain few on here who do get to fish a lot, we need to here your stories.

Clammer
10-25-2021, 08:54 PM
alot has happened in the 21 years I,ve been on this site .

in the fisheries , families, health , national, international , Covid..............&&&&&&&&&& life & death
We have lost to the RIP thread many of the guys/gals that were on this site went I found it .
But also many >> just moved on .not all on facebook ............many have disappeared or very close to it ;

polotical forum ....... is not to blame ........... as many have said

just don,t go there .. but we could have less active members

because there are some that 99% come here for the that forum ><.

Raider Ronnie
10-26-2021, 07:22 PM
Newsflash.
This hasn’t been a fishing site for about 10 years.

hq2
10-26-2021, 08:44 PM
I’ve been trying for a while to post about fishing and get other folks to do likewise. However the combination of FB and overall lousy striper fishing has stifled much of things overall. What this site reminds me of is an island where a lot of boats beached for a party. The tide went out, some people left, and the rest kind of got stranded here together with no company but each other. Now, there doesn’t seem to be much left to talk about. Maybe this site is headed to the fate of surfcaster, reel time, and (last year) NEKF. Would be a pity.
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Rockfish9
10-27-2021, 08:51 AM
alot has happened in the 21 years I,ve been on this site .

in the fisheries , families, health , national, international , Covid..............&&&&&&&&&& life & death
We have lost to the RIP thread many of the guys/gals that were on this site went I found it .
But also many >> just moved on .not all on facebook ............many have disappeared or very close to it ;

polotical forum ....... is not to blame ........... as many have said

just don,t go there .. but we could have less active members

because there are some that 99% come here for the that forum ><.

I agree with this 100%...

I think the lack of younger "students" hurts as well, most of us that are left here have been there, done that and got the Tee shirt... there is not a lot that we can discuss that hasn't been beat to death when we talk about fishing in general.
With the state of the fishery ( actually all of them) there are fewer exceptional fish to talk about, you can only post pictures of so many 20lb bass before it becomes , dare I say, boring..things have changed greatly in the 55 or so years since I began fishing.. and I'm not talking about techniques , the fish/fishing/ climate ( oops bad word)have changed, but it's a fact, we all have seen it..warm water fish are moving north, cold water fish are disappearing, the fishable ice has retreated north, for most anglers here, dont ice fish, I still do. but I drive 2 hours north to do it.. when I was a youngster, large sea pollock would invade the ocean front fall and winter and again in the spring, not tiny harbor pollock( we used o get those way up river) I'm talking 15 to 20lb ones, the jetties would be lined with b\guys with 12' surf rods h#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g Hopkins and cast masters at the feeding schools... I caught King fish and whiting as well as cod all winter off the surf, I haven't heard of a king fish being caught anywhere in a long time... a lot has changed, there is no denying that, people are gone, some fish are gone too, but what's left here , on this site, is a legacy that needs to be told, everyone still here, has a story to tell... and in their own right are a part of fishing history that needs to be preserved..

My .02
Roc

piemma
10-27-2021, 11:51 AM
I agree with this 100%...

I think the lack of younger "students" hurts as well, most of us that are left here have been there, done that and got the Tee shirt... there is not a lot that we can discuss that hasn't been beat to death when we talk about fishing in general.
With the state of the fishery ( actually all of them) there are fewer exceptional fish to talk about, you can only post pictures of so many 20lb bass before it becomes , dare I say, boring..things have changed greatly in the 55 or so years since I began fishing.. and I'm not talking about techniques , the fish/fishing/ climate ( oops bad word)have changed, but it's a fact, we all have seen it..warm water fish are moving north, cold water fish are disappearing, the fishable ice has retreated north, for most anglers here, dont ice fish, I still do. but I drive 2 hours north to do it.. when I was a youngster, large sea pollock would invade the ocean front fall and winter and again in the spring, not tiny harbor pollock( we used o get those way up river) I'm talking 15 to 20lb ones, the jetties would be lined with b\guys with 12' surf rods h#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g Hopkins and cast masters at the feeding schools... I caught King fish and whiting as well as cod all winter off the surf, I haven't heard of a king fish being caught anywhere in a long time... a lot has changed, there is no denying that, people are gone, some fish are gone too, but what's left here , on this site, is a legacy that needs to be told, everyone still here, has a story to tell... and in their own right are a part of fishing history that needs to be preserved..

My .02
Roc

Well said Joe.

MAKAI
10-27-2021, 01:03 PM
Well said Joe.

What he said :agree:

I have fond memories of dragging those big green MDC trash barrels on the beach at plum island to put a driftwood fire in while cod fishing with the white surf rods.
(and no one would bother you)
Fun times.

Mike P
10-27-2021, 03:25 PM
Maybe we should track down Notaro and Striper Striker X, and bring them back.:rotflmao::hidin:

piemma
10-27-2021, 03:32 PM
:cheers2:

What happened to those guys?

fishbones
10-27-2021, 05:56 PM
:cheers2:

What happened to those guys?

What happened to lots of guys? There were some characters on this site back in the day.
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t_man7
10-27-2021, 07:00 PM
Stop complaining
Turn a piece of wood and go catch a fish with it…

MAKAI
10-27-2021, 07:16 PM
Complaining is how us old seasoned fishermen breathe.
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Clammer
10-27-2021, 07:36 PM
turn a piece of wood and float it up your ass <><>

Slipknot
10-27-2021, 09:48 PM
turn a piece of wood and float it up your ass <><>

OMG. LMFAO


I’m grateful for the many friends I have made on here. Times change

Joe gets it
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nightfighter
10-27-2021, 09:58 PM
T-man7, let me in on a secret here. That means Clammer likes you when he is chitting on you... And everyone would do that to one another here before the world went all politically correct.

Mike, is sometimes dyslexic and he thought you posted you were 41. Not 14.... (or he inhaled...)

fishgolf
10-28-2021, 08:36 PM
Nightfighter... good one!
Just got power back in Pembroke!! First place I checked on the Interbookwebworld.

Raider Ronnie
11-01-2021, 04:50 PM
This a typical day on this site.
I log on daily and i would bet 5 out of the 7 days a week, this is the case.
All the hooks are black indicating no new post.
The hook for the political forum is always red (new posts)

Steve K
11-01-2021, 04:56 PM
Complaining is how us old seasoned fishermen breathe.
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JohnR
11-02-2021, 06:38 AM
You guys drive the topics ; )

The political forum is (somewhat) fun but sadly reflects our national division. The Sandbar, when we had it was great, but dangerous.

The rest, the regular discussion, is up to you guys.

wdmso
11-02-2021, 08:48 AM
I am having. Hard time understanding.. many of the people who blame the political section don’t post in it . Most don’t post in the Boat section or the main section.. they may respond, but they do not start threads I can count on 1 hand people who post photos of a catch. Some people have the same suggestion if you want to save it start threads promote conversations , not just the I remember when stuff , post photos fish or no fish it’s just nice to see what others are doing . Enjoy the fall
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ProfessorM
11-02-2021, 03:15 PM
The fact I can’t figure out how to post pictures from my phone kills any of my pictures.I’d love to bore you guys with pictures. I don’t use a computer anymore just the phone.
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pbadad
11-02-2021, 03:48 PM
The fact I can’t figure out how to post pictures from my phone kills any of my pictures.I’d love to bore you guys with pictures. I don’t use a computer anymore just the phone.
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I too would love to post pics from my phone.
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Clammer
11-02-2021, 04:30 PM
I can,t post from my computer any more .been a couple of years :fishslap:

Got Stripers
11-02-2021, 04:32 PM
I can,t post from my computer any more .been a couple of years :fishslap:

If only you knew someone with IT skills:hihi:

Clammer
11-02-2021, 05:53 PM
I owe him my on line existence :buds:

derekH
11-02-2021, 06:59 PM
the fact that Paul, and Billy D, can't post pics from their phones just kills me. just about everything i picked up about plug building was from old post here and the other site. i still try to go read all old post in the winter .
I can't post pictures from anything so i shouldn't talk

fishbones
11-02-2021, 10:06 PM
I can’t post pics from my phone either. Sorry guys, you don’t get a chance to see the 20” schoolie I caught tonight.
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Rockfish9
11-03-2021, 06:19 AM
When I do post pictures , I transfer from phone, to comp6, resize, then use g Microsoft photo editor, rotate them , it's the only way I can get them to.pist correctly.
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Guppy
11-03-2021, 07:06 AM
Open the pic with this….

https://www.image-size.com/image_size_ios_app

Then upload to SB

Goes quick….

PaulS
11-03-2021, 07:10 AM
I've given up on trying to upload pictures.

Redsoxticket
11-03-2021, 09:04 AM
....

Mike P
11-03-2021, 12:04 PM
I’d vote to eliminate the political forum completely, why even keep it as it seems to only have a negative impact on this site.

The problem with that is, without it, politics will spill out over the whole sire, especially the Main Forum. It's inevitable. It's why a separate forum was needed to begin with. Even so, some of it still sneaks out. Sometimes the best thing to do is ignore it, unless it ignites a brawl.

PaulS
11-03-2021, 12:10 PM
The problem is that when there was meet ups you met others and there was a level of friendship. Now, people don't meet each other and there is no reason to be polite to others.

RIROCKHOUND
11-03-2021, 12:40 PM
Now, people don't meet each other and there is no reason to be polite to others.

Hey..
F@^# You
:wavey::bl::bl::bl::bl::bl:

spence
11-03-2021, 12:44 PM
The problem with that is, without it, politics will spill out over the whole sire, especially the Main Forum. It's inevitable. It's why a separate forum was needed to begin with. Even so, some of it still sneaks out. Sometimes the best thing to do is ignore it, unless it ignites a brawl.

Yeah but you eat brown cheese :rotf2:

PaulS
11-04-2021, 07:05 AM
Hey..
F@^# You
:wavey::bl::bl::bl::bl::bl:

And what about the horse I rode in on?

:rotf2::love:

Pete F.
11-04-2021, 07:54 AM
Yeah but you eat brown cheese :rotf2:

Hey, I like Gjetost, and thanks to Thor Bjørklund we can cut thin slices.

ProfessorM
11-04-2021, 08:44 AM
John is there a way to post a picture from your phone right onto the site? Not download to a computer then to the site. I don’t see a way to do that. Like it’s not an option to post one. 🤷
All is see for phone is quick reply
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Nebe
11-04-2021, 11:22 AM
The solution is to make the political forum password protected.
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scottw
11-04-2021, 11:45 AM
The solution is to make the political forum password protected.
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nope...secret handshake

Mike P
11-04-2021, 01:05 PM
Yeah but you eat brown cheese :rotf2:

Leipäjuusto? That's actually more like a dessert, that you eat with a spoon with coffee. And then there's mämmi.

piemma
11-04-2021, 01:08 PM
Great trip to the Block. We have caught everyday. No pictures a we are not killing anything. We've had to move around but if you put you time in, you can find decent fish.
Best fishing on the Block I have seen, in November, in 15 or more years.

Having a blast fishing with DZ and Bob Huddy

fishbones
11-04-2021, 02:18 PM
Great trip to the Block. We have caught everyday. No pictures a we are not killing anything. We've had to move around but if you put you time in, you can find decent fish.
Best fishing on the Block I have seen, in November, in 15 or more years.

Having a blast fishing with DZ and Bob Huddy

Great report, Paul! Sounds like a fun trip with a good group of guys!
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SAUERKRAUT
11-04-2021, 04:30 PM
John is there a way to post a picture from your phone right onto the site? Not download to a computer then to the site. I don’t see a way to do that. Like it’s not an option to post one.

I agree about this Thread:
1. I want to see this site survive; therefore, I will try to add some of my fodder. This past month, however, I am doing and catching very little of any note, and therefore, no pictures. But I am still (freezing) out there and trying. And my usual accomplice, Numbskull, is not helping me.

2. The way I have posted pics in the past in both this site and the "other" site-- I have downloaded them from phone to computer first.
However, the "other" site is easier to produce success it seems. This site requires me to "resize" my pics to add as an Attachment which is beyond my 8 decade of life technical abilities. The "other" site never asks me resize my pics.

spence
11-04-2021, 04:34 PM
Great trip to the Block. We have caught everyday. No pictures a we are not killing anything. We've had to move around but if you put you time in, you can find decent fish.
Best fishing on the Block I have seen, in November, in 15 or more years.

Having a blast fishing with DZ and Bob Huddy

That's awesome. I'm thinking of how many November trips to Block Island I did and most were a bust. A 15 under the lighthouse when I nearly died in Nebe's friends house and the 70 Oakley dropped in the wash at SW point.

SAUERKRAUT
11-04-2021, 04:37 PM
Great trip to the Block. We have caught everyday. No pictures a we are not killing anything. We've had to move around but if you put you time in, you can find decent fish.


**I'm jealous. I just knew somebody, somewhere, was catching something while I was freezing my A-- off on my turf.

nightfighter
11-04-2021, 04:59 PM
That Huddy guy doesn't miss a fishing trip opportunity, does he?:lasso:

hq2
11-04-2021, 08:26 PM
The problem with that is, without it, politics will spill out over the whole sire, especially the Main Forum. It's inevitable. It's why a separate forum was needed to begin with. Even so, some of it still sneaks out. Sometimes the best thing to do is ignore it, unless it ignites a brawl.

Yeah, it’s better kept compartmentalized. Keeps things
more polite on the main forum.
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ivanputski
11-04-2021, 09:15 PM
I just got to this thread...
Seems like this has been made way more complicated than it has to be...

The way I see it:
*come on the site, talk about fishing related stuff
*if you feel like talking politics, go to that thread.

I mean G-damn, is there something I missed!? because it really seems that simple to me.

Sea of Atlas
11-04-2021, 09:50 PM
The way I see it is if you can’t shut up about politics then your wasting time you could be fishing. I go out fishing to reconnect with something that transcends politics. If you’re that bored to go on thousands of posts about politics you missed the bite or you’ve lost the edge.
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piemma
11-05-2021, 04:30 AM
That Huddy guy doesn't miss a fishing trip opportunity, does he?:lasso:

Bob is a great guy to fish with Ross.
The Block really tested me physically. DZ and Bob were always there making sure I didn't end up killing myself.:btu:

Guppy
11-05-2021, 07:02 AM
Bob is a great guy to fish with Ross.
The Block really tested me physically. DZ and Bob were always there making sure I didn't end up killing myself.:btu:

Paul rules…. :-)

RIROCKHOUND
11-05-2021, 08:58 AM
Glad you got some fish Paulie.
Just can't swing weeknights during the semester, otherwise I would have joined you...

piemma
11-06-2021, 05:17 AM
Glad you got some fish Paulie.
Just can't swing weeknights during the semester, otherwise I would have joined you...

Understood Bry. We'll figure out something for next year. We gotta have Spence along so you and ditch his new PB.

bart
11-07-2021, 06:14 PM
I’d been eyeing this past week since March, but the closer it got, the less I thought I’d be able to fish it. But I did, and those two nights alone made up for the lack of size the last 2 seasons combined.

Needed that big time.

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MAKAI
11-07-2021, 09:39 PM
Geez last time I was on BI was about 1993..
Too many islands, not enough time.

rphud
11-08-2021, 07:10 AM
I am right there with ya! Might try some islands to the south this month. Sounds like there may be fishes there now and I suspect my old stomping grounds may fish well into December if not all the way into Spring.