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scottw

11-05-2021, 09:37 AM

just read this in the local paper....good grief....

the solution apparently is mental health counselors specializing in "climate stress issues"..

what tf is being done to these poor people...?

"Sixteen-year-old Ben Doyle often feels "pervasive guilt." It creeps up when he leaves the water running a little too long while brushing his teeth, or when he drinks from a single-use plastic bottle.

In those moments, he says, "I really feel like I’m only hurting myself and acting against my interests and the interests of everybody around me."

Doyle, a student at Portsmouth High School in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, said he experienced "hopelessness" when the U.S. withdrew from the Paris Climate Agreement in 2020.

Ben Doyle, 16, of Greenland, New Hampshire, struggles with the feeling of emotional distress stemming from the environmental crisis.
The term "climate anxiety" immediately strikes a chord with him – the phenomenon of emotional distress stemming from the planet's environmental crisis. Around the world, members of Generation Z – currently 9-24 years old – are experiencing it acutely, according to new data. And many people in their child-bearing years are torn between the future that awaits and their personal desire to have kids."

Jim in CT

11-05-2021, 09:41 AM

Well he has proved he has no backbone, before America met Val Demings when she was a House impeachment manager, FL knew her as Orlando's first female police chief

As a senator, she would be a major upgrade to trump lackey Marco Rubio
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your previous post, way back 5 minutes ago, suggests you don’t like politicians who solicit donations or who insult their opponents.

you must have evolved in the last 5 minutes or so, because now you’re supporting a democrat who solicits donations and who insults her opponent.

please stop making this so easy.
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Pete F.

11-05-2021, 09:46 AM

your previous post, way back 5 minutes ago, suggests you don’t like politicians who solicit donations or who insult their opponents.

you must have evolved in the last 5 minutes or so, because now you’re supporting a democrat who solicits donations and who insults her opponent.

please stop making this so easy.
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Obviously you think Val Demings is a typical radical police chief
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Jim in CT

11-05-2021, 10:09 AM

Obviously you think Val Demings is a typical radical police chief
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i don’t know anything about her. What i do know, is that you criticized Rubio for asking for money and for smearing his opponent. I also know that you don’t care that his opponent did both of those things.

it’s ok when democrats do it, only problematic when republicans do it. Right?
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Pete F.

11-05-2021, 11:18 AM

i don’t know anything about her. What i do know, is that you criticized Rubio for asking for money and for smearing his opponent. I also know that you don’t care that his opponent did both of those things.

it’s ok when democrats do it, only problematic when republicans do it. Right?
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Pretty simply I find it comical that Little Marco called former police chief Val Deming a radical.
You’re the one with the consistent tribal labels
By the way
You and Republicans have repeatedly said the Biden Administration is a failure. So when we see the economy growing at the rate it is and the off the chart job growth, remember the you and the Republicans were opposed to the Biden agenda.

US added 531,000 jobs in October, above expectations. August and September figures revised up as well. Unemployment rate down to 4.6%.

You want a job -- Dems deliver. You don't want to die of Covid. -- Dems deliver. Don't want your kids to die from climate change -- Dems will deliver. You want universal pre-k, lower drug prices, affordable day care and paid leave -- Dems will deliver. GOP???
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wdmso

11-05-2021, 11:20 AM

Liberals say the person on the left is an inspiring, glass-ceiling shattering woman.

The woman on the right, they say, was elected by white supremacists and is a foot soldier of white supremacy.

If that all makes perfect sense to you, you're a democrat. If you think that's bonkers, you're a republican.

To be settled in 2022. I'm liking our chances.

What liberals said that Jim. ONE

Jemele Hill a sports writer . who’s also black .
who cares what she thinks.? the right cares . Alot

Her tweet was about both the VA races .. this is her tweet

It’s not the messaging, folks,” Hill tweeted. “This country simply loves white supremacy.”

Your examples are so disingenuous

Just like CRT it’s everywhere !
And you’ve been told to be outraged . And you don’t disappoint

Cleaned up for Scott and his OCD
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scottw

11-05-2021, 11:23 AM

Jim...let me know if you manage to figure this out^^^^ :spin:

scottw

11-05-2021, 11:24 AM

You’re the one with the consistent tribal labels

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I need to start keeping track of these gems....

wdmso

11-05-2021, 11:26 AM

It funny how the news and information about Tucker Carlson show is less outrageous then what 1 sports writer Tweeted .. with 1.4 million followers over Tuckers 4.7 million followers.. must be a lot of agreement with his position
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scottw

11-05-2021, 11:27 AM

wdmso

11-05-2021, 11:34 AM

probably racism at work...

White is right ! Isn’t that how it goes
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detbuch

11-05-2021, 11:42 AM

White is right ! Isn’t that how it goes
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Not that I know of. CRT says White is wrong.

Jim in CT

11-05-2021, 12:10 PM

White is right ! Isn’t that how it goes
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virginia republicans elected a white guy, a black woman, and a latino.

white power!!’
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Jim in CT

11-05-2021, 12:20 PM

a black republican wins in VA. MSNBC host and guest who is a professor at georgetown, claim she’s a white supremacist. Of course they offer zero proof, maybe Michael Steele can put together a dossier on her for MSNBC.

these people hate every single
person in the right. this is a jamaican immigrant who served in the marine corps. but she’s a republican, so they have a seething hatred of her, and they will say anything to attack her.

This is a tv host, and. Georgetown professor. Think of how hate-filled and sick an ideology has to be, for influential people to think this way.

She’s can’t really be a good black unless she’s a liberal.

It’s not possible that democrats lost fair and square. The winners MUST be evil, otherwise they’d have to admit the left is not flawless.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/liberal-dyson-msnbc-joy-reid-winsome-sears-black-mouth-white-supremacist
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Pete F.

11-05-2021, 01:12 PM

Poor victim
Not only hatred, but seething
Bet you were told that by Fox.
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Jim in CT

11-05-2021, 01:15 PM

Poor victim
Not only hatred, but seething
Bet you were told that by Fox.
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you’re ok with saying she’s a foot soldier of white supremacy? Good for you.

Sears challenged Joy Reid to invite her on her show. Reid won’t do that, and instead calls her a white supremacist without giving Sears the chance to defend herself.

you don’t have any problem
with that? then you shouldn’t complain about foxnews.

as always with you, liberals can do anything, but it’s wrong when conservatives do it.

were you a victim of trump? because you lost about him. an awful lot, to the point where you were barred from starting threads. Did that ever give you pause to ask why you behaved this way?
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Pete F.

11-05-2021, 01:38 PM

you’re ok with saying she’s a foot soldier of white supremacy? Good for you.

Sears challenges Joy Reid to invite her in her show. Reid won’t do that, and instead calls her a white suoremacist without giving Sears the chance to defend herself.

you don’t have any problem
with that? then you shouldn’t complain about foxnews.

as always with you, bitch slapped boy, liberals can do anything, but it’s wrong when conservatives do it.

were you a victim of trump? because you lost about him. an awful lot, to the point where you were barred from starting threads. Did that ever give you pause to ask why you behaved this way?
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Poor victim,
Trying to be a man but acting like a teen-age girl
Whining again
You heard on Fox that what, oh my god.
Don't worry, I'm sure she gets plenty of mentions on Fox.
If you want to make your campaign ad a picture with a firearm, you are a little off. Just what does a gun have to do with legislation?

Meanwhile in the real world

Dow is over 36,000, unemployment has dropped from 6.3 in Jan. to 4.8. Over 5 million jobs added, a record. 220m vaccines in 10 months.

Jim in CT

11-05-2021, 01:43 PM

Poor victim,
Trying to be a man but acting like a teen-age girl
Whining again
You heard on Fox that what, oh my god.
Don't worry, I'm sure she gets plenty of mentions on Fox.
If you want to make your campaign ad a picture with a firearm, you are a little off. Just what does a gun have to do with legislation?

Meanwhile in the real world

Dow is over 36,000, unemployment has dropped from 6.3 in Jan. to 4.8. Over 5 million jobs added, a record. 220m vaccines in 10 months.

how about you stop deflecting, and tell us what you think of what MSNBC is doing to this woman?

posing with a firearm has plenty to do with legislation ( i wouldnt do it, i think it’s a bit much), it conveys you’re a second ammendment supporter.

stock market is in a terrific place. and biden deserves some credit for that. fair enough?

but i moved half my positions to cash and have stop loss orders on my remaining positions, because a correction is coming. i’d be saying that if trump had won as well.
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wdmso

11-05-2021, 02:00 PM

Pete F.

11-05-2021, 02:19 PM

how about you stop deflecting, and tell us what you think of what MSNBC is doing to this woman?

posing with a firearm has plenty to do with legislation ( i wouldnt do it, i think it’s a bit much), it conveys you’re a second ammendment supporter.

stock market is in a terrific place. and biden deserves some credit for that. fair enough?

but i moved half my positions to cash and have stop loss orders on my remaining positions, because a correction is coming. i’d be saying that if trump had won as well.
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If you rely on Talking heads for your information, you'll end up mad all the time.
I don't see anything about Reid saying anything in the feed for her show and I would surmise that other than a 10 second clip, she did not get lost in that rabbit hole. However I'm assuming that one of the talking heads on Fox, is ranting about it.
So I looked and ah yes, Gutfield and it's been repeated by Breitbart, Daily Caller, etc

Jim in CT

11-05-2021, 02:23 PM

Nothing gets the base going then some 'Uppity black guy who has an opinion ..

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so it’s racist for me to criticize Dyson, when he says blacks
must all be liberal.

thanks for straightening me out.
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Jim in CT

11-05-2021, 02:24 PM

If you rely on Talking heads for your information, you'll end up mad all the time.
I don't see anything about Reid saying anything in the feed for her show and I would surmise that other than a 10 second clip, she did not get lost in that rabbit hole. However I'm assuming that one of the talking heads on Fox, is ranting about it.
So I looked and ah yes, Gutfield and it's been repeated by Breitbart, Daily Caller, etc

so everyone critical of the left, is making it up.
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wdmso

11-05-2021, 02:25 PM

It’s amazing on the conservatives web sites. There is no name calling of Sears it must the R next to her name that saves her from the usual Racial comments she’s seen as useful black. Until she’s a RINO

By Jim and Republican Standards, Almost Nothing Is Racist unless it’s spoken by a Democratic then it all is?

But attacks on the VP are ok.. if I remember correctly you suggested She became district attorney of San Francisco and California state attorney general. By Blowing her way to those job and the VP ..

She’s can’t really be a good black or person of color unless she’s a Conservative women ?
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wdmso

11-05-2021, 02:28 PM

so it’s racist for me to criticize Dyson, when he says blacks
must all be liberal.

thanks for straightening me out.
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Did I say you directly ?

no I did not

I said the Base

Hence why this story is all over fox and newsmax .. don’t be fooled to think it’s about informing . It’s all about outrage 24-7
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Jim in CT

11-05-2021, 02:36 PM

If you rely on Talking heads for your information, you'll end up mad all the time.
I don't see anything about Reid saying anything in the feed for her show and I would surmise that other than a 10 second clip, she did not get lost in that rabbit hole. However I'm assuming that one of the talking heads on Fox, is ranting about it.
So I looked and ah yes, Gutfield and it's been repeated by Breitbart, Daily Caller, etc

Reid is clearly nodding at everything Dysmenorrhea is saying. Is bidding what you do when you agree with someone, or when you disagree?
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Jim in CT

11-05-2021, 02:39 PM

Did I say you directly ?

no I did not

I said the Base

Hence why this story is all over fox and newsmax .. don’t be fooled to think it’s about informing . It’s all about outrage 24-7
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it’s not justifiable, to be offended when msnbc says blacks are supposed to be liberal?

i can admit hannity is a buffoon. you can’t criticize this?

people don’t like this wayne. when you don’t have trump as the bogeyman, and more people see these tactics for what they are, we’ll see how that plays out in NC and FL.
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detbuch

11-05-2021, 02:40 PM

a black republican wins in VA. MSNBC host and guest who is a professor at georgetown, claim she’s a white supremacist.

You have to understand, as CRT would no doubt explain to you, the only time or way minorities, especially Blacks, are allowed a piece of the American pie is if they submit themselves to the dominant racist white supremacy system. Like those Blacks you often point out who do well by making the right choices that the system provides and doing the things that whiteness claims will lead to success--get married, wait till then to have children, get an education, work hard (the oppressive white "work ethic" pull yourself up by the bootstraps thingy), blah, blah, blah.

You see, the white supremacist system, which is rigged to privilege whites and maintain their supremacy, will only allow some of that privilege to Blacks is if it somehow benefits that systemically white racist system. It's no doubt good propaganda to let a few blacks, so long as they do the right white things that the system recommends, tap into the white privilege thingy. So successful blacks, especially notable ones like Sowell, Candace Owens, Larry Elder, Condoleezza Rice, Herman Cain, Ben Carson, Professional black athletes, and the lots of regular black folks who do the recommended right things can enjoy some or a lot of that white privilege that is mainly set aside for white folks because they did it the right white recommended way and it makes the systemically racist white system look good and proves that its message is correct. And, BTW, in many ways it can make white elites richer.

So the Black lady elected in VA as a Republican benefits the systemic racism of America by making it look good and by getting some black votes to help keep the system going--dontcha see.

So, to wrap up, if Blacks will submit to acting white, doing what whiteness recommends, they will usually be allowed to succeed because it supports white supremacy. They can even be allowed to become high paid athletes and actors and media stars, and Mayors and Senators and Representatives and presidents of universities, even President of the United States. That's why they can correctly be called white supremacists, even though they are black.

Now the seeming anomaly of many of these successful Blacks, especially in the media and politics, crying out against the racism of the system, is actually, willingly participated in or not, part of the allowed systemic activity. They add the appearance of a system that is open to opposition, that gives voice to everyone. But, as CRT points out, in spite of all the shouting and hollering and legislation by the opposition that is allowed to get elected, the inequality suffered by Blacks has only gotten worse. Since the great civil rights efforts of the supposed opposition which were stirred up even more with the Great Society legislation, and all the "reforms" that followed, Blacks have fallen even further back. Even though all the high level black opposition, actors, media personalities, athletes, politicians, and academics have maintained or improved their privileged status. And, more quietly, little mentioned, the regular Black folks who do the recommended whiteness things, also manage to succeed.

So, you see, CRT explains that the white supremacists' equality of opportunity nonsense is merely a propagandistic meme to deflect from what is really needed--equality of outcome. Or, to use the preferred CRT meme, what is necessary, what is needed is "equity."

And the Black lady that got elected in VA does not provide equity for Blacks or other minorities. It just separates her from the plight of regular Black folks who are not interested in doing the right "white" things that lead to personal success but maintain the systemically racist system. She's just another Black white supremacist.

Jim in CT

11-05-2021, 05:06 PM

Sears’ existence, and more so her victory, exposes about half of the entire liberal agenda as a lie. Which is why they spit on her.
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wdmso

11-05-2021, 07:47 PM

Sears’ existence, and more so her victory, exposes about half of the entire liberal agenda as a lie. Which is why they spit on her.
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You still talking about those 2 people you insist representing all liberals
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Jim in CT

11-05-2021, 08:37 PM

You still talking about those 2 people you insist representing all liberals
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i didn’t say they represent all liberals. it they are prominent, influential liberals.

i’ll
ask ghouls, what do you think about this? Sears asked to go on her show, abs instead, Reid and Dyson say she’s promoting white supremacy.

you ok with that? why not let Sears on to defend herself?
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scottw

11-06-2021, 04:54 AM

i didn’t say they represent all liberals.

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no, it's wayne that constantly makes the sweeping generalizations actually...

wdmso

11-06-2021, 09:09 AM

i didn’t say they represent all liberals. it they are prominent, influential liberals.

i’ll
ask ghouls, what do you think about this? Sears asked to go on her show, abs instead, Reid and Dyson say she’s promoting white supremacy.

you ok with that? why not let Sears on to defend herself?
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you said entire liberal agenda entire
with no part left out; whole.

Jim that's such Bull they may be influential to whom follows them and it ends there .. they are 2 people

Just like the squad who the right likes to tell their base they are the democratic party and have all this influence .. it all about how dare a muslim and other people of color and are women Speak!

Its a Conservative trifecta they use promoting hate and outrage for their base

yet at the end of the day Jamaal Bowman of New York, Cori Bush of Missouri, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. all voted against the bill

their great influenced wasn't needed to pass the infrastructure Bill .. and they shot themselves in the foot if they expect big support from moderates in any bill they do support and want to pass...

I actually think they believed what the conservative media said about them

scottw

11-06-2021, 09:24 AM

Jim that's such Bull

Just like the squad who the right likes to tell their base they are the democratic party and have all this influence .. it all about how dare a muslim and other people of color and are women Speak!

ummmm...this is bull :rude:

Jim in CT

11-06-2021, 09:32 AM

you said entire liberal agenda entire
with no part left out; whole.

Jim that's such Bull they may be influential to whom follows them and it ends there .. they are 2 people

Just like the squad who the right likes to tell their base they are the democratic party and have all this influence .. it all about how dare a muslim and other people of color and are women Speak!

Its a Conservative trifecta they use promoting hate and outrage for their base

yet at the end of the day Jamaal Bowman of New York, Cori Bush of Missouri, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. all voted against the bill

their great influenced wasn't needed to pass the infrastructure Bill .. and they shot themselves in the foot if they expect big support from moderates in any bill they do support and want to pass...

I actually think they believed what the conservative media said about them

it’s bull to say that a host of her own show is influential..

she’s got enough influence over you, that guy are incapable of disagreeing with her. if she told you to lay an egg, you’d squat and ask what color.
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Jim in CT

11-06-2021, 09:42 AM

Pete F.

11-06-2021, 10:54 AM

wdmso

11-06-2021, 11:38 AM

wayne, the squad are 6 lunatic socialists who have never done anything. they have enormous influence in your party, you disagree? they are the only reason why the infastructure bill wasn’t passed until the democrats got clobbered this week. the speaker of the house made it clear she wanted that passed weeks ago, they blocked her.
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you just love making things up now I know why your a conservative
lies are easier than Truth

The squad lives in Conservatives Heads Because you've told to believe that !

the infrastructure was passed long ago and your delusional to think its passage now has anything to do with the VA election outcome !

using your logic why didn't the do it before the election ?

Conservatives can't understand the concept of Debate ? they are all about fidelity to the Party ..

and every republican who voted for the Bill is now a Rino in MAGA land

Republicans stay america 1st and then after that its crickets :btu:

Jim in CT

11-06-2021, 11:52 AM

you just love making things up now I know why your a conservative
lies are easier than Truth

The squad lives in Conservatives Heads Because you've told to believe that !

the infrastructure was passed long ago and your delusional to think its passage now has anything to do with the VA election outcome !

using your logic why didn't the do it before the election ?

Conservatives can't understand the concept of Debate ? they are all about fidelity to the Party ..

and every republican who voted for the Bill is now a Rino in MAGA land

Republicans stay america 1st and then after that its crickets :btu:

wtf are you talking about? infastructure passed THE SENATE a long time ago. it hadn’t passed in the house ( where the squad is), it passed the house last night, because the squad held it up. you’re telling me that’s incorrect? seriously?
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scottw

11-06-2021, 12:20 PM

Jim in CT

11-06-2021, 12:50 PM

Keep whining about the squad
So far, Democrats have cut child poverty in half, got us out of Afghanistan, added 5.3 million jobs, managed the most ambitious vaccine rollout in the nation’s history, and passed a $1.2 trillion investment in the water, roads, bridges and broadband.

Trump gave $2 trillion to the rich and tweeted a lot.
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when you started 65 anti-trump threads a day, that was ok with you. but everyone else is always whining. only you can criticize.

i’m not complaining about the squad, you stupid idiot. i love the squad. they’re a godsend to the gop. i hope they stay there forever. if they ever pass term limits, i hope those marxist dingbats are exempt and stay there for 100 years.

republicans LOVE the squad. you don’t get that?

seriously, where did you come from? scotland yard? maybe the fbi lab in Quantico?
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Jim in CT

11-06-2021, 01:08 PM

Pete, per vaccines. when trump
left, 983,000 people a day we’re getting vaccinated. Biden isn’t doing more than a million a day. if he were, adults would be 100% vaccinated.

Biden inherited an infastructure that was vaccinating just about a million people
a day.

Jobs - unless you blame trump for what covid did to the economy, guy could compare Biden’s numbers to where trump was before covid. i’m
warning you, even though that’s the fair way to do it, you won’t like it. unemployment was lower under trump.

Biden is doing a decent job with getting job counts back., and for sure the stock market likes what he’s doing.

Biden gets credit for passing infastructure. Not doing so, was a big fat F for trump.

Pete, if all trump did was give tax cuts to the rich ( he lowered every single
marginal
tax rate, by the way), how can you possibly explain the Gallup poll, which showed a record number of americans said they were better off under trump. how can you possibly explain that?

Like this - duh.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-22/biden-s-million-dose-a-day-goal-sets-a-bar-that-s-nearly-met

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wdmso

11-06-2021, 01:52 PM

wtf are you talking about? infastructure passed THE SENATE a long time ago. it hadn’t passed in the house ( where the squad is), it passed the house last night, because the squad held it up. you’re telling me that’s incorrect? seriously?
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jim you do know bills starts? in the house then go to the Senate and if both bodys pass the bill in its original form it goes to the president's desk...

And if the Senate changes it it goes back to the house to be re voted on if it passes that vote then it goes to the President's desk .. which happened yesterday

You do know that the Squad did not hold this bill up. The Congressional Progressive Caucus is composed of nearly 100 progressive members -- 95 members of the U.S. House of Representatives and one U.S. Senator. held it up not because they disagreed with it but they wanted both bills voted on at the same time ! they are called a negotiations and they lost! that fight

yet your conservative Queen Marjorie Taylor Greene Praises AOC, Calls Republicans Who Voted for Biden Plan 'Traitors'

like I said it just about owing the Libs with republicans America 1st is just a catch phrase

Jim in CT

11-06-2021, 04:05 PM

jim you do know bills starts? in the house then go to the Senate and if both bodys pass the bill in its original form it goes to the president's desk...

And if the Senate changes it it goes back to the house to be re voted on if it passes that vote then it goes to the President's desk .. which happened yesterday

You do know that the Squad did not hold this bill up. The Congressional Progressive Caucus is composed of nearly 100 progressive members -- 95 members of the U.S. House of Representatives and one U.S. Senator. held it up not because they disagreed with it but they wanted both bills voted on at the same time ! they are called a negotiations and they lost! that fight

yet your conservative Queen Marjorie Taylor Greene Praises AOC, Calls Republicans Who Voted for Biden Plan 'Traitors'

like I said it just about owing the Libs with republicans America 1st is just a catch phrase

i do know how bills start. you don’t. you do not have to start a bill in the house. where did you get that?

Pelosi and the moderates wanted infastructure passed a long time ago. the progressives, led by the squad, said no.

tell yourself that AOC isn’t influential
if it makes you feel better.
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scottw

11-06-2021, 04:24 PM

i do know how bills start. you don’t. you do not have to start a bill in the house. where did you get that?

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schoolhouse rock...

Jim in CT

11-06-2021, 04:53 PM

schoolhouse rock...

i actually just watched it!

these guys will say anything. in the last day…

AOC isn’t influential in the democratic party.

No one is moving to florida due to covid, because the 2019 data on moving, didn’t indicate anyone was leaving due to covid. data from 2019. pre covid.

bills cannot originate in the senate.

trump did nothing in 4 years except cut taxes for billionaires. nothing else. no tax cuts for everyone else, no criminal justice reform, no increasing funding to black colleges, no slaughtering terrorists, no cutting corporate taxes which led to some companies hiring more and giving bonuses. nothing. he was t vaccinating a million people
a day when he left, nope Biden did it all.

2022 can’t get here fast enough.
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Pete F.

11-06-2021, 06:12 PM

i do know how bills start. you don’t. you do not have to start a bill in the house. where did you get that?

Pelosi and the moderates wanted infastructure passed a long time ago. the progressives, led by the squad, said no.

tell yourself that AOC isn’t influential
if it makes you feel better.
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Well once again you’re wrong

Bills may originate in either the House of Representatives or the Senate with one notable exception. Article I, Section 7, of the Constitution provides that all bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives but that the Senate may propose, or concur with, amendments.
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scottw

11-07-2021, 04:37 AM

Well once again you’re wrong

Bills may originate in either the House of Representatives or the Senate with one notable exception. Article I, Section 7, of the Constitution provides that all bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives but that the Senate may propose, or concur with, amendments.
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sooo..what did he get wrong cutandpete?

scottw

11-07-2021, 04:39 AM

yet your conservative Queen Marjorie Taylor Greene Praises AOC, Calls Republicans Who Voted for Biden Plan 'Traitors'

shouldn't call people traitors....right GS?

MTG is pretty funny....

Jim in CT

11-07-2021, 06:14 AM

sooo..what did he get wrong cutandpete?

i got nothing wrong. bills
may originate in the senate.

wayne was saying that the house passed the infastructure bill before friday night. it’s not true. it failed in the house, because the progressives tied it to the huge social spending bill. The thumping the democrats took in VA woke them
up.

that said, america wants an
infastructure bill ( and no, preschool and family leave are not infastructure) . trump was an idiot for not passing this when he had the votes. if they do this well and create a tin of jobs and update a lot of infastructure, it’s a win for democrats and they deserve it.
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Jim in CT

11-07-2021, 06:15 AM

Well once again you’re wrong

Bills may originate in either the House of Representatives or the Senate
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which is what i said. Thanks for proving my point, Sherlock.

Jim: bills can originate in the house or senate.

Pete: wrong again! bills can originate in the house or the senate!
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scottw

11-07-2021, 06:21 AM

trump was an idiot for not passing this when he had the votes. if they do this well and create a tin of jobs and update a lot of infastructure, it’s a win for democrats and they deserve it.

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you damn trumplican always loyal to your orange master! :hihi:

Pete F.

11-07-2021, 06:42 AM

Well once again you’re wrong

Jim says: “i do know how bills start. you don’t. you do not have to start a bill in the house. where did you get that?”

Bills may originate in either the House of Representatives or the Senate with one notable exception. Article I, Section 7, of the Constitution provides that all bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives but that the Senate may propose, or concur with, amendments.
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wdmso

11-07-2021, 07:48 AM

i do know how bills start. you don’t. you do not have to start a bill in the house. where did you get that?

Pelosi and the moderates wanted infastructure passed a long time ago. the progressives, led by the squad, said no.

tell yourself that AOC isn’t influential
if it makes you feel better.
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I stand corrected I was wrong. on all start in the house

Who said AOC wasn't influential ? I said she has no POWER and this vote just reinforces that.

But once again you insist the Squad guess and 6 member has more Influence than they Have . you've been saying that since the nickname started ...

and they voted against a bill that they the already knew had the votes to pass ... AKA a stunt ..

scottw

11-07-2021, 07:58 AM

Who said AOC wasn't influential ? I said she has no POWER ..

goodness......

Jim in CT

11-07-2021, 08:55 AM

goodness......

good lord almighty.

she doesn’t have influence, she just has power over people, he ability to get them to do what she wants. but she’s not influential!
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Jim in CT

11-07-2021, 09:00 AM

you damn trumplican always loyal to your orange master! :hihi:

that’s me.
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Jim in CT

11-07-2021, 09:01 AM

you damn trumplican always loyal to your orange master! :hihi:

that’s me.

it’s a lot easier to dismiss me as a Trumplican than to respond to what i’m actually saying.
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Pete F.

11-08-2021, 07:37 AM

good lord almighty.

she doesn’t have influence, she just has power over people, he ability to get them to do what she wants. but she’s not influential!
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Wonder who in the media made AOC important?

In one six-week period, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was mentioned 3,181 times on Fox News and Fox Business. That’s an average of 75 times a day.

Not a single day went by between Feb. 25 and April 7 in which the conservative networks did not mention the Democratic socialist lawmaker from New York.

I wonder why they wanted her instead of say, Representative Katie Porter?
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Jim in CT

11-08-2021, 07:43 AM

Wonder who in the media made AOC important?

In one six-week period, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was mentioned 3,181 times on Fox News and Fox Business. That’s an average of 75 times a day.

Not a single day went by between Feb. 25 and April 7 in which the conservative networks did not mention the Democratic socialist lawmaker from New York.

I wonder why they wanted her instead of say, Representative Katie Porter?
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and who in congress, gave AOC the power to demand that the infastructure bill be connected to the social spending bill?

i told you, we love AOC. we love how the DNC bows to her.

She’s one of the biggest assets the GOP has. you just don’t get it. you can’t see it, because you can’t see anything that doesn’t help your side. i’m sorry pete,,but sometimes liberals make big mistakes. making AOC as powerful as she is, was a huge, huge gift to the GOP. She’s a marxist dingbat, and the entire country knows it.
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Pete F.

11-08-2021, 07:48 AM

Reading comprehension is not your strong point
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wdmso

11-08-2021, 08:26 AM

wdmso

11-08-2021, 08:32 AM

good lord almighty.

she doesn’t have influence, she just has power over people, he ability to get them to do what she wants. but she’s not influential!
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wayne, the squad are 6 lunatic socialists who have never done anything. they have enormous influence in your party,

So which is it Jim they have power or influence?

Or let me guess they both mean the same thing

AOC has influence but she has no power or leverage. Unlike joe manchin who has influence and leverage which gives him power .. get it now
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Jim in CT

11-08-2021, 08:36 AM

But but big bird

Ted Cruz leads right-wing attack on Big Bird for promoting 'propaganda' after the Sesame Street character got the COVID-19 vaccine. GOP priorities

Not sure why Jim thinks AOC has more influence then joe manchin and kyrsten sinema.

Yet infrastructure gets passed, and Jim moves the goal posts again to SHE alone held it up? No sure how or way that’s relevant . Seeing the vast majority of Republicans wouldn’t dare help Dems pass a bill that let alone helped Americans no less Democratic’s…

That’s why those Republicans who voted for it are now ! The enemy Greene labeled them "traitors" and tweeted out a list of their names along with their office numbers.
Rep. Lauren Boebert of Colorado said in a tweet "these fraudulent RINOs" should be penalized "for advertising themselves as Republicans but governing as Democrats."

I can't believe Republicans just gave the Democrats their socialism bill," Rep Matt Gaetz of Florida said.

Rep. Chip Roy of Texas retweeted Rep. Warren Davidson of Ohio, who said it was "painful" to watch his Republican colleagues deliver the votes to Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

GOP Lawmaker B Rep.-elect Nicole Malliotakis (R-N.Y.) backs Biden's Infrastructure Bill to Own the Squad: 'I Voted Against AOC'

Oh really she is part of the GOP FREEDOM SQUAD ! by the way all those women used AOC as their villain and conservatives irrational. Fear of Socialism ad owing the libs to get elected…. That’s a winning strategy for the GOP they know never to try to get elected on policy. Just say guns god Abortion China socialism and communism and AOC and repeat

The majority of Republicans refuse do anything for the citizens of the US ! infrastructure is a classic example look at their responses. Clearly it will Help in all states but it helps the Democratics and that alone makes it unacceptable to the new GOP Man before country ! party before country !
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"Not sure why Jim thinks AOC has more influence then joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. "

(1) I never said anything like that. Why do you guys constantly claim I'm saying things i never said? When did I say that?

(2) Do yo understand that there are 2 chambers of the legislature? AOC is in the HOUSE. Manchin and Sinema are in the SENATE.

(3) "Influuence" means the ability to get others to do what you want them to do. Manchin isn't influencing other senators to vote the way he does, He and Sinema are two individuals who are in a senate that's tied 50-50. So they can single-handedly torpedo democratic bills, but they aren't influencing anyone else to vote with them. The other 48 democrats in the Senate are voting the way the DNC wants.

House is a different story. The progressive wing of the democratic party has repeatedly blocked the democrats from passing infastructure until Friday night. It's clear to me (but I can't prove it) that the squad are the most powerful force within the progressive wing of the democrats in the house.

There is constant talk of AOC issuing a primary challenge to Chuck Schumer. She's a force among house democrats. Obviously you hate that, but it's not my fault, I didn't vote for her, although I would vote for her if I could because shes a gift to the GOP.

Anyway, is there anything I can do, to get you to stop claiming that I'm saying things that I never came close to saying?

Pete F.

11-08-2021, 09:48 AM

And then on the right in the house, you have The Geniuses: Greene, Gohmert, Gaetz, Good and Gosar.

Constantly looking for media attention, but not intelligent enough to accomplish anything.

Jim in CT

11-08-2021, 09:57 AM

And then on the right in the house, you have The Geniuses: Greene, Gohmert, Gaetz, Good and Gosar.

Constantly looking for media attention, but not intelligent enough to accomplish anything.

everyone knows who AOC is. most people don’t know that list. but you did spell genius with a big G, that’s some terrific prop comedy.
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Pete F.

11-08-2021, 10:37 AM

everyone knows who AOC is. most people don’t know that list. but you did spell genius with a big G, that’s some terrific prop comedy.
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They would fall into the genre of Tragicomedy pretty easily

Justice Dept. Adds Two Top Prosecutors to Matt Gaetz Case
The move by the department is a sign of the complex and high-stakes nature of the sex trafficking investigation into Representative Gaetz.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Calls D.C. Jail Section Holding Jan. 6 Rioters 'Patriot Wing'

Gohmert’s name appeared in a report detailing some of the evidence that’s come before the U.S. select committee that is investigating the January 6 attack on the Capitol.
Two organizers of the January 6 rally that preceded the storming of the building say that in the weeks before the event, they met with seven members of Congress or their staffers who were “intimately involved” in planning the demonstration. One of the seven who they say they met, or met the staffers of, is a Texas congressman: Gohmert. Other representatives were Lauren Boebert of Colorado, Paul Gosar of Arizona, and Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia.

Paul Gosar (R-AZ) has shared a photoshopped anti-immigrant anime video that shows him killing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY).

What could have been a simple high school government lecture on civic duty and participation from a local congressman instead became a Covid-19 misinformation fest worthy of a primetime slot on Fox News. Congressman Bob Good (R-Va.) encouraged a group of high school students to defy a statewide school mask mandate, and he spread lies about vaccines and how the virus spreads, the Rappahannock News reported.

“If nobody in Rappahannock complies [with the mask mandate], they can’t stop everyone,” Good told a Rappahannock County High School government class of approximately 20 students this week. “If I was ya’ll, I’d say none of ya’ll wear a mask. What are they gonna do? They’re still going to have school.”

What a bunch of Geniuses

wdmso

11-08-2021, 10:42 AM

"Not sure why Jim thinks AOC has more influence then joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. "

(1) I never said anything like that. Why do you guys constantly claim I'm saying things i never said? When did I say that?

Jim AOC is all you talk about you never mention the other 2 so its a reasonable conclusion you think she has more influence than any Dem in the House or the Senate

(2) Do yo understand that there are 2 chambers of the legislature? AOC is in the HOUSE. Manchin and Sinema are in the SENATE.

no one is talking about Chambers .. Just influence and Power

(3) "Influuence" means the ability to get others to do what you want them to do. Manchin isn't influencing other senators to vote the way he does, He and Sinema are two individuals who are in a senate that's tied 50-50. So they can single-handedly torpedo democratic bills, but they aren't influencing anyone else to vote with them. The other 48 democrats in the Senate are voting the way the DNC wants.

Seems AOC and the squad failed in the ability to get others to do what they want them to do. seeing her caucus voted for the Bill

House is a different story. The progressive wing of the democratic party has repeatedly blocked the democrats from passing infrastructure until Friday night. It's clear to me (but I can't prove it) that the squad are the most powerful force within the progressive wing of the democrats in the house.

Here we go with the conservative logic feelings over Facts

There is constant talk of AOC issuing a primary challenge to Chuck Schumer. She's a force among house democrats. Obviously you hate that, but it's not my fault, I didn't vote for her, although I would vote for her if I could because shes a gift to the GOP.

Constant talk from WHO? and if she Does that's Her choice as for a gift to the GOP of course she is .. the gullible Republican base is the jerry springer show on steroids

Anyway, is there anything I can do, to get you to stop claiming that I'm saying things that I never came close to saying?

Jim my statement " Jim thinks AOC has more influence than joe manchin and kyrsten sinema"

is Just MY opinion.. I never claimed you said anything ...

AOC deranged syndrome its a thing

scottw

11-08-2021, 10:45 AM

Jim my statement " Jim thinks AOC has more influence than joe manchin and kyrsten sinema"

is Just MY opinion.. I never claimed you said anything ...

this is bidenesque....

Jim in CT

11-08-2021, 11:04 AM

this is bidenesque....

AOC is all I talk about.
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spence

11-08-2021, 06:19 PM

Paul Gosar (R-AZ) has shared a photoshopped anti-immigrant anime video that shows him killing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY).
And threatening to kill the POTUS. I hope the Secret Service is looking into this. What a clown.

Pete F.

11-09-2021, 06:20 AM

And threatening to kill the POTUS. I hope the Secret Service is looking into this. What a clown.

Paul Gosar’s own siblings have repeatedly spoken out and warned us that he is an extremist. Six of them, if six people tell you their own damn brother is dangerous believe them.
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Pete F.

11-09-2021, 06:25 AM

If you want a good example of conservatives in 2021

To date, Alabama has made plans to spend $440 million dollars of our American Rescue Plan funds. Of the $440 million, $400 million of it will be spent on building prisons while the other $40 million will be spent on hospitals.
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Jim in CT

11-09-2021, 06:49 AM

And threatening to kill the POTUS. I hope the Secret Service is looking into this. What a clown.

you’re talking about the disgusting video where he showed a likeness of himself striking biden? was it with a sword?

thats unbelievably inappropriate, but it’s not threatening to kill him, unless he said something like “ Biden this is what’s coming.”.

Kathy Griffin joked about cutting Trumps head off. She didn’t threaten to do so.

mind boggling he thought that was ok though.
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wdmso

11-09-2021, 09:14 AM

And threatening to kill the POTUS. I hope the Secret Service is looking into this. What a clown.

My son sent me that clip I happen to be an Fan of that show it’s called attack on Titian

Seems Republicans what to push some current dystopian nonsense, still acting as if Biden never won the election
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Jim in CT

11-09-2021, 09:27 AM

Seems Republicans what to push some current dystopian nonsense, still acting as if Biden never won the election
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i believe biden won.

seems to me, that people are figuring out all by themselves, the dystopian nature of today’s liberalism. not everybody watches foxnews wayne, on a good night they get 3 million viewers, which is 1% of the us population.

you think republicans are fabricating the sense of dystopia. you better hope you’re right.

When VA parents see that their children are being told to read a book in elementary school called “Not My Idea”, which literally equates whiteness with satanism, and then those parents are told that critical race theory isn’t being taught in school and that they’re therefore lying…well if democrats are doing that, can they really be surprised when they lose elections?

is that a winning strategy?
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wdmso

11-09-2021, 09:33 AM

you’re talking about the disgusting video where he showed a likeness of himself striking biden? was it with a sword?

thats unbelievably inappropriate, but it’s not threatening to kill him, unless he said something like “ Biden this is what’s coming.”.

Kathy Griffin joked about cutting Trumps head off. She didn’t threaten to do so.

mind boggling he thought that was ok though.
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Jim I agree with “99% of what you said however Kathy Griffin is a comedian not a sitting member congress

It’s incitement to do violence , like Trump on Jan 6th. Explained away with he said go peacefully ..
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Jim in CT

11-09-2021, 09:38 AM

Jim I agree with “99% of what you said however Kathy Griffin is a comedian not a sitting member congress

It’s incitement to do violence , like Trump on Jan 6th. Explained away with he said go peacefully ..
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agreed, a sitting member of congress should be held to a higher standard. he deserves to be punished.

but unless you’d say Griffin threatened Trumps life, you can’t say this idiot threatened Biden’s life. And I’d bet big that spence dismissed griffins actions as a tasteless but harmless joke. but more people know who she is, than this idiot congressman.

we always agree when i’m bashing republicans. never, ever when i’m bashing democrats.
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wdmso

11-09-2021, 09:45 AM

i believe biden won.

seems to me, that people are figuring out all by themselves, the dystopian nature of today’s liberalism. not everybody watches foxnews wayne, on a good night they get 3 million viewers, which is 1% of the us population.

you think republicans are fabricating the sense of dystopia. you better hope you’re right.

When VA parents see that their children are being told to read a book in elementary school called “Not My Idea”, which literally equates whiteness with satanism, and then those parents are told that critical race theory isn’t being taught in school and that they’re therefore lying…well if democrats are doing that, can they really be surprised when they lose elections?

is that a winning strategy?
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Jim Republicans are just lying 24x7 it’s no hard to find from big bird
To this latest Stunt..

If it didn’t work on Republicans voters or if this wasn’t what Republicans want to see and hear .. we wouldn’t be seeing it..

Even you are a RINO in the new Trumplican GOP

Republicans want a dystopian future
Where elections only are fair if they win. The truth is what they say it is .

And the only why to save American
Is to install an Authoritarian leader who will drain the swap ( code for removing the Congress a taking over the judiciary and if need be put the military on the streets…

And the vast number of Republicans are all In . thinking they are Patriots saving the UNITED STATES.

And it’s all happening in plan view
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Pete F.

11-09-2021, 09:48 AM

In today’s Republican Party, you get cancelled for crossing party lines and applauded for publicly fantasizing about the murder of Democrats.
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Jim in CT

11-09-2021, 09:51 AM

Jim Republicans are just lying 24x7 it’s no hard to find from big bird
To this latest Stunt..

If it didn’t work on Republicans voters or if this wasn’t what Republicans want to see and hear .. we wouldn’t be seeing it..

Even you are a RINO in the new Trumplican GOP

Republicans want a dystopian future
Where elections only are fair if they win. The truth is what they say it is .

And the only why to save American
Is to install an Authoritarian leader who will drain the swap ( code for removing the Congress a taking over the judiciary and if need be put the military on the streets…

And the vast number of Republicans are all In . thinking they are Patriots saving the UNITED STATES.

And it’s all happening in plan view
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is it lying to say that racially divisive gargage is taught in VA public schools? all those parents, some of whom are registered democrats, are lying?

wayne, you cannot accept that any criticism of democrats is accurate. it all must be lying.

“drain the swamp is code for removing congress”…

“taking over the judiciary” - i’m sorry, trump isn’t allowed to fill judicial vacancies?

multiple presidents have “put military on the streets.”

now who’s lying? now who’s spreading nonsensical hysteria? You.

Trump nominated Brett Kavanaugh, the closest living adult to Wally Cleaver you’ll ever find. And democrats painted him as a monster.

So i’m not sure where you get the idea that only republicans engage in hyperbole. I remember plenty of liberal hysteria during the trump years.

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Pete F.

11-09-2021, 10:39 AM

Trump nominated Brett Kavanaugh, the closest living adult to Wally Cleaver you’ll ever find. And democrats painted him as a monster.

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Wally Cleaver?
The FBI sent 4500 tips on Kavanaugh to the White House, didn’t investigate at all.
You’re dreaming if you think he’s not an entitled prep school kid.

You do realize he spent 3 years working for Ken Starr on Whitewater and now his opinion is that sitting Presidents should not be investigated.
Did you ever read the questions he proposed?
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/kavanaugh/releases/kavanaugh8.15.98.pdf
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wdmso

11-09-2021, 10:40 AM

agreed, a sitting member of congress should be held to a higher standard. he deserves to be punished.

but unless you’d say Griffin threatened Trumps life, you can’t say this idiot threatened Biden’s life. And I’d bet big that spence dismissed griffins actions as a tasteless but harmless joke. but more people know who she is, than this idiot congressman.

we always agree when i’m bashing republicans. never, ever when i’m bashing democrats.
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Jim not all threats are equal

And this is where you and I disagree

That everything is equal . All the time

What’s the point?

I have said it before sometimes your arguments lack nuance .

That’s why the FBI will conduct a Threat assessment and they will decide if it’s a threat or not . It’s what they do
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Jim in CT

11-09-2021, 10:48 AM

Jim not all threats are equal

And this is where you and I disagree

That everything is equal . All the time

What’s the point?

I have said it before sometimes your arguments lack nuance .

That’s why the FBI will conduct a Threat assessment and they will decide if it’s a threat or not . It’s what they do
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i don’t recall saying everything is equal. and you were the one who said you agreed with 90% of my post, so now i don’t know what we were agreeing on, so
never mind.

what kathy griffin did was ok. she’s a democrat.

my arguments lack nuance. from a guy whose every post, is pro democrat and anti republican. that’s nuanced?
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wdmso

11-09-2021, 11:16 AM

is it lying to say that racially divisive gargage is taught in VA public schools? all those parents, some of whom are registered democrats, are lying? No jim they are missed informed BY GOP LIES thinking something is happening and knowing its happening are 2 different things

wayne, you cannot accept that any criticism of democrats is accurate. it all must be lying. [COLOR="red"] a Lie is not a criticism its a lie

“drain the swamp is code for removing congress”…

“taking over the judiciary” - i’m sorry, trump isn’t allowed to fill judicial vacancies? Again your not paying attention to what republicans expect his appointed judges to do! they expect fidelity to a Trump..

multiple presidents have “put military on the streets.” yes Jim it's happened 6 time in our History .. Again Everything's the same. none were in support to overthrow an election that's what Trumplicans what they want

now who’s lying? now who’s spreading nonsensical hysteria? You.

Trump nominated Brett Kavanaugh, the closest living adult to Wally Cleaver you’ll ever find. And democrats painted him as a monster.

Thats your measurement of Character a Fictional person from Leave it to Beaver? another Conservatives who whats to go back in time to the 50s when America was America

So i’m not sure where you get the idea that only republicans engage in hyperbole. I remember plenty of liberal hysteria during the trump years.

When trump spoke and the world listened the next day.. All the world heard was OH!! it was all Hyperbole

But again you think Hyperbole from a Sitting POTUS is equal to any hyperbole from just a Democrat .:smash:

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Jim take a day and go to OAN newsmax or breitbart
read the comment sections and the headlines

its a case study in whats driving Cruz D,eSantis , Abbott Gosar. Trump Bobartt and Taylor

Jim in CT

11-09-2021, 11:24 AM

Jim take a day and go to OAN newsmax or breitbart
read the comment sections and the headlines

its a case study in whats driving Cruz D,eSantis , Abbott Gosar. Trump Bobartt and Taylor

"No jim they are missed informed BY GOP LIES thinking something is happening and knowing its happening are 2 different things"

So the parents who say that their kids read that book in class, are all wrong? Every single one of them, was hypnotized by the GOP to believe their kids read that book? Parents are too stupid to see for themselves, what their kids are being taught in school? CNN has a better idea than the Loudon County parents, of what's being taught in those schools?

Whew. I mean, whew.

Nothing that paints the left in a bad light, can be valid. Nothing. I mean, you are out there Wayne, really really out there. You know better than those parents, what their children are being taught.

"your not paying attention to what republicans expect his appointed judges to do! they expect fidelity to a Trump the constitution."

Fixed it.

Give me some examples, please, of Trumps judges violating the constitution, to show fidelity to Trump. I am very, very curious to see what you come up with. I'm dying to know.

"Thats your measurement of Character a Fictional person from Leave it to Beaver?"

Kavanaugh was obviously a decent and good man. Look what your side did to him.

"nother Conservatives who whats to go back in time to the 50s when America was America"

Guilty as charged, you got something right in that rant.

"But again you think Hyperbole from a Sitting POTUS is equal to any hyperbole from just a Democrat"

Fine. So when Hilary said tens of millions of Americans are deplorable, and when Biden said Republicans want to put blacks back in chains, how come you're OK with that?

wdmso

11-09-2021, 12:23 PM

"No jim they are missed informed BY GOP LIES thinking something is happening and knowing its happening are 2 different things"

So the parents who say that their kids read that book in class, are all wrong? Every single one of them, was hypnotized by the GOP to believe their kids read that book? Parents are too stupid to see for themselves, what their kids are being taught in school? CNN has a better idea than the Loudon County parents, of what's being taught in those schools?

Whew. I mean, whew.

Nothing that paints the left in a bad light, can be valid. Nothing. I mean, you are out there Wayne, really really out there. You know better than those parents, what their children are being taught.

"your not paying attention to what republicans expect his appointed judges to do! they expect fidelity to a Trump the constitution."

Fixed it.

Give me some examples, please, of Trumps judges violating the constitution, to show fidelity to Trump. I am very, very curious to see what you come up with. I'm dying to know.

"Thats your measurement of Character a Fictional person from Leave it to Beaver?"

Kavanaugh was obviously a decent and good man. Look what your side did to him.

"nother Conservatives who whats to go back in time to the 50s when America was America"

Guilty as charged, you got something right in that rant.

"But again you think Hyperbole from a Sitting POTUS is equal to any hyperbole from just a Democrat"

Fine. So when Hilary said tens of millions of Americans are deplorable, and when Biden said Republicans want to put blacks back in chains, how come you're OK with that?

You need to find some new material yet again you compare single incidents against to many incidents to count . One being Jan 6th

I hope I am wrong with my view of the future GOP .. but if the faithful keep making excuses for them and blaming liberalism for ever ill in America as if a Republican never held office or the White House . Theirs little hope

Don’t forget it Trump before the nation and the party before the people.

And history is littered with examples when people stop paying attention and accept fiction over facts
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wdmso

11-09-2021, 12:52 PM

Pete F.

11-09-2021, 01:34 PM

Pretty clear who the House GOP represents when they are discussing whether to strip committee assignments from the baker’s dozen who voted for bipartisan infrastructure bill.

That's saying out loud that members’ votes belong to the caucus not constituents.

Jim in CT

11-09-2021, 01:36 PM

i read this about how conservatives attacked the American Olympic teams and athletes..

Conservatives anti-Americanism still pays lip service to love of country: Its proponents declare themselves the true patriots, describing their enemies as the nation’s betrayers. But when the cadre of traitors includes everyone from election administrators to Olympians to the Capitol Police, it becomes clear that the only America they love is the one that exists in their heads. When they contemplate the actual United State they are the real America!

This is today’s Republican Party no doubt in my mind

I
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No doubt. All those republicans who say they care about unborn babies and fiscal sanity, who say they care about individual liberty, they're just a bunch of hate filled maniacs.

The worst are the evangelicals and catholics. The ones who are so repugnant, that they offer low-cost (often free) food, shelter, education, healthcare, adoption services, to Americans who need help. Those dirty rotten bastards. As you have said, republicans are incapable of doing anything for anybody. Which is why studies show that liberals are far more charitable, right?

And your conclusion is so logical, everyone agrees with you, which is why the democrats rolled to victory in VA and why they won in a landslide in the NJ race.

Jim in CT

11-09-2021, 01:41 PM

You need to find some new material yet again you compare single incidents against to many incidents to count . One being Jan 6th

I hope I am wrong with my view of the future GOP .. but if the faithful keep making excuses for them and blaming liberalism for ever ill in America as if a Republican never held office or the White House . Theirs little hope

Don’t forget it Trump before the nation and the party before the people.

And history is littered with examples when people stop paying attention and accept fiction over facts
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"You need to find some new material"

All I did was quote you! So if the material seemed stupid and redundant, I agree.

"you compare single incidents against to many incidents to count"

I can list as many as John can fit on the server. It wouldn't matter to you. Which is why you don't respond to anything I challenge you with, ever, CNN hasn't told you how.

"Don’t forget it Trump before the nation and the party before the people."

Yup, that's my motto.

Pete F.

11-09-2021, 03:34 PM

Jim in CT

11-09-2021, 03:53 PM

Jim’s proof that Goldwater was right

“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”
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You're so insightful, I don't know how you do it. Republicans never compromise. Only liberals compromise. They never, ever throw a fit when they don't get their way, they always are willing to work with supreme court nominees who are nominated by republicans (the democrats are so accommodating in that regard, just ask justice Robert Bork). They would never talk about changing the rules just because they didn't win (eliminating the fillibuster, stacking the supreme court, etc). They never lie or engage in smear...

It's really a shame you aren't at Scotland Yard or at the FBI lab, solving crimes.

wdmso

11-09-2021, 04:01 PM

No doubt. All those republicans who say they care about unborn babies and fiscal sanity, who say they care about individual liberty, they're just a bunch of hate filled maniacs.

of course they will say it but they don't mean it

The worst are the evangelicals and catholics. The ones who are so repugnant, that they offer low-cost (often free) food, shelter, education, healthcare, adoption services, to Americans who need help. Those dirty rotten bastards. As you have said, republicans are incapable of doing anything for anybody. Which is why studies show that liberals are far more charitable, right?

again another retread ! get some new material

And your conclusion is so logical, everyone agrees with you, which is why the democrats rolled to victory in VA and why they won in a landslide in the NJ race.

You still think Republicans are the Majority .. Sometimes the best candidate wins

that's why Biden won.. and why Yonkin won

there's nothing cryptic about ethier victory

Pete F.

11-09-2021, 04:15 PM

You're so insightful, I don't know how you do it. Republicans never compromise. Only liberals compromise. They never, ever throw a fit when they don't get their way, they always are willing to work with supreme court nominees who are nominated by republicans (the democrats are so accommodating in that regard, just ask justice Robert Bork). They would never talk about changing the rules just because they didn't win (eliminating the fillibuster, stacking the supreme court, etc).

It's really a shame you aren't at Scotland Yard or at the FBI lab, solving crimes.

Republican leaders in the US House of Representatives are expecting a bid to punish the 13 Republicans who voted for Biden's infrastructure bill by stripping them of committee assignments.

It is a punishment that has historically been reserved for lawmakers who have been accused of crimes, or been involved with extremism.

But Gosar, Gaetz, etc :faga:

Then you cite Bork as mistreated, the guy who after the others resigned fired Archibald Cox.
And Bork was upset that Nixon resigned before he could nominate him to the Court as promised.
What happened to the FBI investigation of Kavanaugh, sent the info to the White House?

Typical of the republican party, and don't worry McConnell would change the filibuster in a heartbeat and you would claim it's ok because they won. Remember Garland then Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett.
Sad

Jim in CT

11-09-2021, 04:21 PM

You still think Republicans are the Majority .. Sometimes the best candidate wins

that's why Biden won.. and why Yonkin won

there's nothing cryptic about ethier victory

"of course they will say it but they don't mean it"

Republicans don't really care about the unborn. Of course!

"You still think Republicans are the Majority"

I'm not sure I ever said that. You guy shave said the GOP is, in a practical sense, dead. It's absurd. There are some left leaning folks out there (Joe Manchin) who say we're a center-right country. Thats not necessarily going be the numbers of registered democrats and republicans, but rather, based on what people believe is right.

"Sometimes the best candidate wins

that's why Biden won"

In my opinion, very very few people voted "for" Biden. They voted "against" Trump. Those are not the same thing. Again, I can't prove it, but I'd bet I'm right.

" and why Yonkin won"

I sincerely credit you for saying that, but everyone on the left (including the media) are saying he won because of white supremacy, and because parents are lying about divisive stuff taught in schools. You yourself, said those people were wrong (somehow, you know better than they do, what's taught in Virginia schools).

"there's nothing cryptic about ethier victory "

Agreed 100%. America had zero interest in another 4 years of Trump, and VA proved that there's been a rightward shift in the last 12 months.

Jim in CT

11-09-2021, 08:51 PM

wdmso

11-10-2021, 07:22 AM

"You need to find some new material"

All I did was quote you! So if the material seemed stupid and redundant, I agree.

"you compare single incidents against to many incidents to count"

I can list as many as John can fit on the server. It wouldn't matter to you. Which is why you don't respond to anything I challenge you with, ever, CNN hasn't told you how.

"Don’t forget it Trump before the nation and the party before the people."

Yup, that's my motto.

Once again you think the whole conversation is some how about you

Your just Another RINO Aka no better than a liberal to the current GOP and their followers

They have even turned on Brett and Amy for not helping Trump steal the election or crush the vaccine mandates.. the GOP want party and Trump allegiance! 1st.

They don’t care about the constitution
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wdmso

11-10-2021, 07:33 AM

wayne, you mentioned that republicans use fear and hysteria.

obama at the climate conference ( after he confused scotland and ireland, and after he claimed Shakespeare was from scotland)…

“vote on the issue of climate like your life depends on it, because it does.”

from the guy who has mansions and flies private jets, and therefore he obviously isn’t concerned about his own carbon footprint.

That’s not using fear ( vote liberal or you’re going to die.). No, sir.
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Look out the window it’s here! and why are these conference always used by conservatives. As examples because leaders of the free world Didn’t walk! is somehow hypocritical…

Classic blame game and a complete lack of understanding so uninformed they can’t see beyond the daily outrage .. delivered to their email or their favorite talking heads

Jim try the big picture or the long view . It takes to much effort to be angry all the time ,

How many Americans died from extreme weather events or property destroyed by Fire and Floods

So seems Obama was right your live is at risk from the climate!

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19702558.scots-tease-barack-obama-emerald-isle-shakespeare-gaffes/

Despite the gaffe, we bet Obama is still a good deal more popular than the last US president.

Another Jim outraged balloon deflated by the people of Scotland themselves

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The Dad Fisherman

11-10-2021, 08:16 AM

and why are these conference always used by conservatives. As examples because leaders of the free world Didn’t walk! is somehow hypocritical…
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Well, Pretty sure a Zoom meeting has a smaller carbon footprint.

Any of their grandkids could have set it up for them, they’re pretty adept at it these days
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Jim in CT

11-10-2021, 08:31 AM

Look out the window it’s here! and why are these conference always used by conservatives. As examples because leaders of the free world Didn’t walk! is somehow hypocritical…

Classic blame game and a complete lack of understanding so uninformed they can’t see beyond the daily outrage .. delivered to their email or their favorite talking heads

Jim try the big picture or the long view . It takes to much effort to be angry all the time ,

How many Americans died from extreme weather events or property destroyed by Fire and Floods

So seems Obama was right your live is at risk from the climate!

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19702558.scots-tease-barack-obama-emerald-isle-shakespeare-gaffes/

Despite the gaffe, we bet Obama is still a good deal more popular than the last US president.

Another Jim outraged ballon deflated by the people of Scotland themselves

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Wayne, in this one idiotic, laughable post, you have PERFECTLY illustrated why it's impossible to converse with liberals. It's just not possible, you are not capable of it.

You criticized conservatives for using fear and hysteria. And you're right, they do that sometimes, and they shouldn't. I can admit that.

I then provide to you, a perfect example of a liberal using fear and hysteria. Obama is literally saying "your life depends on voting for democrats". And even though you have NO problem criticizing republicans for using fear, you are incapable of holding democrats to the same standard.

As always, you only care when republicans do it, and democrats are above criticism.

Let's move on from your inability to hold both sides to the same standard when using fear. Let's talk hypocrisy. I say it's a bit hypocritical for someone who owns multiple huge mansions and flies on private jets, to lecture anyone about their carbon footprint.

Your response?

"because leaders of the free world Didn’t walk!"

As always, when I back you into a corner from which there's no escape, instead of being an adult and admitting I have a point, you respond to something I never even came close to saying. You know you can't respond to what I actually said, so you convince yourself I said something stupid enough that you could respond to. I never said walk. But he can take a commercial flight, and fly first class.

If the climate change zealots are right, and if everyone lived like Obama and Al Gore, we'd all be dead. Right? So clearly Obama either doesn't believe what hes saying, or he believes he's entitled to luxuries no one lese is entitled to.

You got wrecked here. Completely wrecked.

Jim in CT

11-10-2021, 08:59 AM

Well, Pretty sure a Zoom meeting has a smaller carbon footprint.

Any of their grandkids could have set it up for them, they’re pretty adept at it these days
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or god forbid fly first class in a commercial flight. Obama
says the future of the human race depends on our fixing this, he’s says the stakes are just that high. Yet he’s not willing to fly commercial in first class to help prevent human extinction. That’s how concerned he is, and John Kerry, and Al Gore. It’s worth risking the existence of mankind for THEIR luxuries. But people in developing countries are’t supposed to have houses with cheap heat and A/C and cheap cars, all the things that make our lives better.
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Pete F.

11-10-2021, 11:19 AM

The Conservative approach to climate change is what?

Plant trees

Fund clean energy initiatives that use fossil fuels (funding efforts by fossil fuel companies to clean up after themselves)

That is because in their minds and because for the people funding their political operation, fossil fuels aren’t a problem. It’s emissions. So they claim they want to devise strategies that are based on emissions strategies, not based on eliminating fossil fuels.

There is no model in the world showing emissions falling fast enough with nothing but carbon capture, with fossil fuels continuing their current headlong expansion.

But pay no attention to that because the party that opposes government picking winners and losers wants to pick fossil fuels as the winner.

What conservatives have decided is that regulations, restrictions, or limitations or anything that might upset or inconvenience the corporations generating greenhouse gases, are the bad kind of big government and a bad way of picking winners and losers.
Government subsidies, tax credits, and grants or anything that benefits big corporations, is the good kind of big government and a good way of picking winners and losers.

detbuch

11-10-2021, 01:02 PM

Pete F.

11-10-2021, 01:33 PM

They're all Trump bootlickers. Probably Putin puppets.

Not new information, 70% of Trumplicans would rather live in the former Soviet Union than under a Democrat

That was supposed to be satirical but it seems to have some truth

Capitol rioter Evan Neumann applies for asylum in Belarus
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detbuch

11-10-2021, 01:51 PM

Not new information, 70% of Trumplicans would rather live in the former Soviet Union than under a Democrat

That was supposed to be satirical but it seems to have some truth

Capitol rioter Evan Neumann applies for asylum in Belarus
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Trump supporters seem to be communists!! Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump . . .

wdmso

11-10-2021, 02:12 PM

Wayne, in this one idiotic, laughable post, you have PERFECTLY illustrated why it's impossible to converse with liberals. It's just not possible, you are not capable of it.

You criticized conservatives for using fear and hysteria. And you're right, they do that sometimes, and they shouldn't. I can admit that.

I then provide to you, a perfect example of a liberal using fear and hysteria. Obama is literally saying "your life depends on voting for democrats". And even though you have NO problem criticizing republicans for using fear, you are incapable of holding democrats to the same standard.

As always, you only care when republicans do it, and democrats are above criticism.

Let's move on from your inability to hold both sides to the same standard when using fear. Let's talk hypocrisy. I say it's a bit hypocritical for someone who owns multiple huge mansions and flies on private jets, to lecture anyone about their carbon footprint.

Your response?

"because leaders of the free world Didn’t walk!"

As always, when I back you into a corner from which there's no escape, instead of being an adult and admitting I have a point, you respond to something I never even came close to saying. You know you can't respond to what I actually said, so you convince yourself I said something stupid enough that you could respond to. I never said walk. But he can take a commercial flight, and fly first class.

If the climate change zealots are right, and if everyone lived like Obama and Al Gore, we'd all be dead. Right? So clearly Obama either doesn't believe what hes saying, or he believes he's entitled to luxuries no one lese is entitled to.

You got wrecked here. Completely wrecked.

Again your a broken record you now you compare a single statement from a former POTUS as your example of using Fear and hysteria

And if by magic once again claim it’s no different from what Republicans do.. you are so intellectually dishonest ! It’s amazing to watch

Jim you post a talking a
point . it’s not legitimate or even up for discussion. Because you are 100% agreement with it . I’ve learned not to bother

this is GOP fear and hysteria spewed every day ! and these are just from The last 2 days

The Biden administration and socialist Democrats are "smarter than what we think they are" as their plans to "capture the free enterprise system and replace it with government," are progressing, Rep. Pete Sessions said on Newsmax Tuesday.

Brooks says, "it's These 32 Republicans gave a gift to dictatorial socialism and its march on America,

Biden Trying to 'Bring America to Its Knees' on Oil

Texas Gov. Abbott Calls for Probe Into 'Availability of Pornography' in Schools

Russia's Advanced Hypersonic Missiles Highlight Biden's 'Pathetic Weakness' in New Arms Race

You just can’t get off your hamster wheel? Jim seems you where fine with Trump weekend trips for 4 years to play golf So nothing to see since he pulled out of the Paris agreement and a climate denier . So it ok he’s no hypocrite. What simpleton logic

You got wrecked here. Completely wrecked.

And now you are your own cheering section. Lol
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wdmso

11-10-2021, 02:16 PM

or god forbid fly first class in a commercial flight. Obama
says the future of the human race depends on our fixing this, he’s says the stakes are just that high. Yet he’s not willing to fly commercial in first class to help prevent human extinction. That’s how concerned he is, and John Kerry, and Al Gore. It’s worth risking the existence of mankind for THEIR luxuries. But people in developing countries are’t supposed to have houses with cheap heat and A/C and cheap cars, all the things that make our lives better.
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Wow Jim’s is that your socialist manifesto

Sure sounds like one

Let the Black former POTUS guy fly commercial .. do you even hear yourself
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Pete F.

11-10-2021, 02:39 PM

Wow
Cheap heat, A/C and cheap cars are what makes our lives better.

Let’s see, it’s good that there’s billionaires they’re great and shouldn’t have to pay taxes but apparently they ought to stick to making money (at which they’re faultless) and stay out of environmental issues unless they want to live in huts, ride burros and fly economy.

Sounds like shut up and dribble all over again
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Jim in CT

11-10-2021, 02:49 PM

Again your a broken record you now you compare a single statement from a former POTUS as your example of using Fear and hysteria

And if by magic once again claim it’s no different from what Republicans do.. you are so intellectually dishonest ! It’s amazing to watch

Jim you post a talking a
point . it’s not legitimate or even up for discussion. Because you are 100% agreement with it . I’ve learned not to bother

this is GOP fear and hysteria spewed every day ! and these are just from The last 2 days

The Biden administration and socialist Democrats are "smarter than what we think they are" as their plans to "capture the free enterprise system and replace it with government," are progressing, Rep. Pete Sessions said on Newsmax Tuesday.

Brooks says, "it's These 32 Republicans gave a gift to dictatorial socialism and its march on America,

Biden Trying to 'Bring America to Its Knees' on Oil

Texas Gov. Abbott Calls for Probe Into 'Availability of Pornography' in Schools

Russia's Advanced Hypersonic Missiles Highlight Biden's 'Pathetic Weakness' in New Arms Race

You just can’t get off your hamster wheel? Jim seems you where fine with Trump weekend trips for 4 years to play golf So nothing to see since he pulled out of the Paris agreement and a climate denier . So it ok he’s no hypocrite. What simpleton logic

You got wrecked here. Completely wrecked.

And now you are your own cheering section. Lol
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"now you compare a single statement from a former POTUS as your example of using Fear and hysteria "

I provided one example of a democrat clearly using fear. For every example you can cite of a Republican doing it, I can cite a democrat doing it (like Biden telling blacks that "Republicans want to put y'all back in chains").

I've provided two very specific, accurate, valid examples. You provided none. Zero. Not that you can't provide any, but you didn't. But you mock me for only providing one example.

On race and climate change, Democrats play the fear card all the time. But as always with you, it's OK when democrats do it, only problematic when Republicans do it.

"Texas Gov. Abbott Calls for Probe Into 'Availability of Pornography' in Schools"

That's using fear? How do you know that Abbott isn't right? How could you possibly know what books are in every Texas school? Whenever a republican criticizes a liberal, you immediately conclude the republican is lying, and refuse to consider any evidence that teh republican could have a point.

Jim in CT

11-10-2021, 02:51 PM

Wow Jim’s is that your socialist manifesto

Sure sounds like one

Let the Black former POTUS guy fly commercial .. do you even hear yourself
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what does "black" have to do with it?

I also said John Kerry and Al Gore are climate change hypocrites, what color are they?

You are losing this argument in an embarassing way, so you play the race card. Nice.

No one who has multiple mansions and who flies private jets has any standing to lecture anyone else about having a responsibility to reduce their carbon footprint.

wdmso

11-10-2021, 03:43 PM

Jim in CT

11-10-2021, 04:03 PM

Fox

GOP senators call out Biden climate 'hypocrisy,' demand tally of emissions to transport officials to Glasgow

I found where you got your daily outrage

So 4 years of weekend golf trips to mars largo .. and Republicans call Biden a climate hypocrite. And all with a straight face. Lol
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i’m calling g obama a hypocrite. who said anything about biden? did you fall on your head today?
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Jim in CT

11-10-2021, 04:04 PM

wdmso

11-11-2021, 05:45 AM

i’m calling g obama a hypocrite. who said anything about biden? did you fall on your head today?

trump can’t be a climate hypocrite. he’s not demanding that others make sacrifices that he ain’t willing to make.

i’m not sure you know what “hypocrite” means.
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And once again Jim misses the boat complete , but reinforces the GOP and conservatives world views

If you say nothing and do less then GOP can never be accused of being a hypocrites

How did I know you find the simplest justification for Trumps behavior..

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wdmso

11-11-2021, 05:46 AM

i’m calling g obama a hypocrite. who said anything about biden? did you fall on your head today?
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Now it’s a specific person not (liberals)
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wdmso

11-11-2021, 06:18 AM

"now you compare a single statement from a former POTUS as your example of using Fear and hysteria "

I provided one example of a democrat clearly using fear. For every example you can cite of a Republican doing it, I can cite a democrat doing it (like Biden telling blacks that "Republicans want to put y'all back in chains").

I've provided two very specific, accurate, valid examples. You provided none. Zero. Not that you can't provide any, but you didn't. But you mock me for only providing one example.

On race and climate change, Democrats play the fear card all the time. But as always with you, it's OK when democrats do it, only problematic when Republicans do it.

"Texas Gov. Abbott Calls for Probe Into 'Availability of Pornography' in Schools"

That's using fear? How do you know that Abbott isn't right? How could you possibly know what books are in every Texas school? Whenever a republican criticizes a liberal, you immediately conclude the republican is lying, and refuse to consider any evidence that teh republican could have a point.

All my examples of fear and hysteria I give you ! You next example your tit for tat examples .. ( again with the put you chains) is from 2012..

I gave you 6 examples in 1 day

So you actually think the reddest of red states have porno books In their schools and your buying this stunt from 4 wheels ?

According to him he would ban the Sears catalog bra a panty section. If it was still around

Or Maybe Aboott should ban phones and internet,

Yet Obama is private citizens who tells the youth of the WORLD vote as if your live depends on it .

And that Fear and hysteria is equal to GOP fear and hysteria.

Jim’s logic A serial killer and man who killed his wife they are Both the same Murders.

Which is correct In the most basic sense of the meaning .
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Jim in CT

11-11-2021, 07:04 AM

And once again Jim misses the boat complete , but reinforces the GOP and conservatives world views

If you say nothing and do less then GOP can never be accused of being a hypocrites

How did I know you find the simplest justification for Trumps behavior..

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nooooo. the point was, you called Trump a climate change hypocrite because he has a big carbon footprint. That’s ridiculous, because trump us t demanding that we all make sacrifices that he won’t make.

i agree the gop doesn’t care much about climate change. but if you also know that, then you should know that means trump can fly private and not be a hypocrite. But flying private does make Obama and Al Gore hypocrites.

Let’s see if you have the courage to answer a question. If liberals are right about the threat of climate change, and if everyone lived like Obama ( multiple
mansions that have to be heated and cooled all the time, private jets), where would the world be?

Let me predict your answer: Jim is an idiot who doesn’t care if the planet melts and we all die….
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Jim in CT

11-11-2021, 07:10 AM

So you actually think the reddest of red states have porno books In their schools and your buying this stunt from 4 wheels ?

Or Maybe Aboott should ban phones and internet,

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Earth to Wayne…There are very blue places within red Texas, Wayne. The cities tend to be blue.

I don’t know whether or not there’s sexually explicit books in kids schools there. neither do you. Yet your ignorance on the matter didn’t prevent you from calling Abbott a liar, because you hate republicans that much. you don’t need evidence, republicans are lying every single time they try to gain political point. Right? The republican must always be wrong, not 99% of the time, but 100% of the time.

Yea abbott wants to ban the internet. Once again, when you lose the point, you respond to some ridiculous extreme nonsense that no one ever said.
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scottw

11-11-2021, 07:23 AM

I was at dinner with a bunch of life-long democrats last night...one of them happens to be from Virginia...I've never agreed with them on much politically...it was fun to sit and listen to them talk about how wokeness is out of control, me too is out of control...racial stuff is out of control...too many homeless occupying the hotels rooms they used to be able to get at a reasonable rate because they are being rented by the state for the indigent(one was having trouble finding affordable accommodations).....what a mess everything is thanks to members of their own party...it was a surreal experience...I just smiled a lot...:)

scottw

11-11-2021, 07:39 AM

Earth to Wayne…

Yea abbott wants to ban the internet.

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technically it's "the internets"

Jim in CT

11-11-2021, 08:25 AM

technically it's "the internets"

a lot of parents don’t want sexually explicit stuff shoved in front of little kids. If democrats want to respond by telling those parents that they just aren’t sophisticated enough to see that smut for the brilliant and enlightened art that it is, democrats can go ahead and do that. Maybe it’s a winning strategy, maybe it’s not.
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scottw

11-11-2021, 08:33 AM

a lot of parents don’t want sexually explicit stuff shoved in front of little kids. If democrats want to respond by telling those parents that they just aren’t sophisticated enough to see that smut for the brilliant and enlightened art that it is, democrats can go ahead and do that. Maybe it’s a winning strategy, maybe it’s not.
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I encourage democrats, particularly the woke crowd, to keep telling other people that they are too stupid to run their own lives and make decisions for themselves: and their families...that never ends well for the lecturing class :behead:

Jim in CT

11-11-2021, 08:37 AM

scottw

11-11-2021, 08:48 AM

agreed. just ask Governor McAuliffe.
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I think it was the awful dancing that did him in :banano:

wdmso

11-11-2021, 04:28 PM

I encourage democrats, particularly the woke crowd, to keep telling other people that they are too stupid to run their own lives and make decisions for themselves: and their families...that never ends well for the lecturing class :behead:
You can always listen to josh

Hawley: "As conservatives, we've got to call men back to responsibility. We've got to say that spending your time not working...spending your time on video games, spending your time watching porn online...is not good for you, your family or this country."
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wdmso

11-11-2021, 04:33 PM

Earth to Wayne…There are very blue places within red Texas, Wayne. The cities tend to be blue.

I don’t know whether or not there’s sexually explicit books in kids schools there. neither do you. Yet your ignorance on the matter didn’t prevent you from calling Abbott a liar, because you hate republicans that much. you don’t need evidence, republicans are lying every single time they try to gain political point. Right? The republican must always be wrong, not 99% of the time, but 100% of the time.

Yea abbott wants to ban the internet. Once again, when you lose the point, you respond to some ridiculous extreme nonsense that no one ever said.
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Oh so now porn is only in the blue parts of Texas ..

And can you read ?

I said should ban

Not he is banning! Or wants to Ban
But it is a logical next step.
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wdmso

11-11-2021, 04:39 PM

a lot of parents don’t want sexually explicit stuff shoved in front of little kids. If democrats want to respond by telling those parents that they just aren’t sophisticated enough to see that smut for the brilliant and enlightened art that it is, democrats can go ahead and do that. Maybe it’s a winning strategy,

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don’t know whether or not there’s sexually explicit books in kids schools there. neither do you.

What happened Jim you seem pretty sure that’s what’s happening

If democrats want to respond by telling those parents that they just aren’t sophisticated enough to see that smut for the brilliant and enlightened art that it is,

Wow it’s amazing in how deep your rabbit hole goes
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spence

11-11-2021, 05:18 PM

don’t know whether or not there’s sexually explicit books in kids schools there. neither do you.
I checked out both books in question. There is some graphic content but it's nothing a teenager would get scarred by, hell, consider what they can see online even with content filters.

The more important thing is these books deal with LGBT issues as the authors discuss the challenges they had coming of age. That is the real reason they want the books banned...to de-legitimize LGBT people.

scottw

11-12-2021, 05:12 AM

Jim in CT

11-12-2021, 07:06 AM

I checked out both books in question. There is some graphic content but it's nothing a teenager would get scarred by, hell, consider what they can see online even with content filters.

The more important thing is these books deal with LGBT issues as the authors discuss the challenges they had coming of age. That is the real reason they want the books banned...to de-legitimize LGBT people.

you read both books?

my 8th grader read a book where a girl told her friend, she desperately wanted her boyfriend to eat her p*ssy. she shaved, so that he wouldn’t get hair in his teeth. not exactly “it’s a far far better thing that i do, than i have ever done”, but maybe it has a certain flair to it.

my son wasn’t scarred in the least. But that doesn’t mean it belongs in a public school. there are plenty of terrific books out there that don’t have x-rated pages within them.

this isn’t rocket science. and it’s only divisive because your side can never, ever, under any circumstances, concede that the right can be correct in anything. You’re not confident enough in your beliefs to admit that both sides can have good ideas . you’re all so desperately clinging to an ideology that’s becoming exponentially weirder and more extreme by the day, that any and all dissent must be dismisses as lunacy.

no one said kids are permanently scarred by this crap. just that there are far better books kids can read.

but you can’t respond to that, because it’s too logical and obvious.

“that’s the real reason they want books banned.”. right, because you’re so good at understanding the motives behind those with whom you disagree.
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Pete F.

11-12-2021, 02:08 PM

detbuch

11-12-2021, 02:53 PM

Virginia's Spotsylvania County School Board voted 6-0 earlier this week to order public school libraries to remove and catalog all "sexually explicit" books from their libraries, after a parent at one high school complained about "LGBTQIA" fiction prominently displayed in the school's digital library app, The Free Lance-Star reports.

Two of the board members wanted to go farther, the Free Lance-Star reports. "I think we should throw those books in a fire," said one member.

Wonder if he burned his kids Kindle?
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How about teaching K-12 a good dose of civics, the Constitution, unalienable individual rights rather than shaving "pu$$ies" so boyfriends can eat them. And an even larger dose of math, communication skills, history, and intros to science and the scientific method.

How about leaving psychological and behavioral and other social sciences (which are disputable and usually controversial) to more advanced and elective education.

If being able to find it on Kindl and TV and the internet and bookstores and movies is a reason or defence for inserting it in public elementary and high schools, then their should be no reason or objection to having intelligent design, for instance, available as reading material and discussion as well. There is no end of what should be available in the schools if it can be found elsewhere.

It is difficult enough to rigorously teach the basic skills that will be necessary in adult life without spending time on froth. And I think it is right and necessary for all adults, especially parents, to insist that their taxes be spent on learning to learn and learning what will be essential for becoming a well functioning, responsible, adult.

The other stuff should be a matter of choice, and studied, observed, or practiced by well grounded adults

Pete F.

11-12-2021, 03:22 PM

Sure Intelligent Design, a little conversion therapy, some bioethics and watch out for the Green Dragon.
Just keep living the Purpose-driven Life of Unreality.

“We are all sufferers from history, but the paranoid is a double sufferer, since he is afflicted not only by the real world with the rest of us, but by his fantasies as well”
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detbuch

11-12-2021, 03:31 PM

Sure Intelligent Design, a little conversion therapy, some bioethics and watch out for the Green Dragon.
Just keep living the Purpose-driven Life of Unreality.

But it can be found on Kindle. Would you burn your kids' Kindle?

“We are all sufferers from history, but the paranoid is a double sufferer, since he is afflicted not only by the real world with the rest of us, but by his fantasies as well”
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God, that quote sounds so much like you and your never ending Trump paranoias and fantasies expressed on this forum.

wdmso

11-13-2021, 08:29 AM

my 8th grader read a book.

How about the name of the Book where he read it or who gave it to him and the school it came from? Was it a friends book ?

All important question left out?

Not so long ago

Harry Potter books banned from US school library because they ‘conjure evil spirits’

Who wanted them banned the faithful aka religious people
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scottw

11-13-2021, 08:54 AM

Not so long ago

Harry Potter books banned from US school library because they ‘conjure evil spirits’

Who wanted them banned the faithful aka religious people

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be honest....one Catholic school in Nashville did this....there are legitimate questions in schools throughout the country regarding some of this other material that you are quick to dismiss ....

wdmso

11-13-2021, 12:03 PM

be honest....one Catholic school in Nashville did this....there are legitimate questions in schools throughout the country regarding some of this other material that you are quick to dismiss ....

I know these book just showed up when Biden took office ... funny how that always seems to be the case after Republicans lose the White House.. then it starts all over again:btu:

scottw

11-13-2021, 12:24 PM

I know these book just showed up when Biden took office ... funny how that always seems to be the case after Republicans lose the White House.. then it starts all over again:btu:

parents began to notice many of these issues as a result of having more involvement with their kids and their education as a result of covid and it's not new it's just hitting a breaking point

wdmso

11-13-2021, 03:42 PM

parents began to notice many of these issues as a result of having more involvement with their kids and their education as a result of covid and it's not new it's just hitting a breaking point

In the latest call from Republican leaders to ban certain books in schools, South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster is telling his state's department of education to investigate a graphic novel on queer identity being available at a school's library. He says the content in the book is "sexually explicit" and "pornographic."

Fear and hysteria hiding behind piety.. conservatives at there very worse
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scottw

11-13-2021, 04:05 PM

In the latest call from Republican leaders to ban certain books in schools, South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster is telling his state's department of education to investigate a graphic novel on queer identity being available at a school's library. He says the content in the book is "sexually explicit" and "pornographic."

Fear and hysteria hiding behind piety.. conservatives at there very worse
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If it is graphic, sexually explicit and pornographic…..shouldn’t they at least investigate?
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Jim in CT

11-13-2021, 04:36 PM

parents began to notice many of these issues as a result of having more involvement with their kids and their education as a result of covid and it's not new it's just hitting a breaking point

that’s exactly what it was, covid. but he had to make it seem like it’s an attack against Biden, it just can’t be that any parent could
have a legitimate gripe.

We may get to a point where public schoolteachers are a political
liability for democrats. Incredible to think about.
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wdmso

11-14-2021, 08:53 AM

If it is graphic, sexually explicit and pornographic…..shouldn’t they at least investigate?
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You dont see Scott? this is going down the Path of Voter Fraud .. .. A few people claiming these Book exist and are poisoning children's Minds no evidence all conjecture

with the same flawed rational (shouldn’t they at least investigate?)

Republican Gov and legislatures like Lemmings in different states suddenly start changing laws to solve a problem that doesn't exist .. giving these actions misleading names
like Voter integrity ..

“The presence of pornography in schools is not only inappropriate, but it is also against the law,” Abbott wrote.( no kidding all parents dont want pornin schools) but that's not the point he is making is it! its liberals are dangerous ) of course without providing any evidence it exist

It’s unclear how the governor is defining pornography or obscene content. imagine That

Heightened scrutiny over how schools teach history -- and whether it was patriotic enough or
GOP’s Banning of Books and Attack on Teachers Expose the Party’s Rising Fascism and Nationalism

Jim statement re enforces theses attacks on teachers "We may get to a point where public school teachers are a political
liability for democrats. Incredible to think about." No Jim its your party's plan to sow doubt in anything outside of the GOP ... and you are falling for it...

scottw

11-14-2021, 09:09 AM

You dont see Scott? this is going down the Path of Voter Fraud .. .. A few people claiming these Book exist and are poisoning children's Minds no evidence all conjecture

with the same flawed rational (shouldn’t they at least investigate?)

Republican Gov and legislatures like Lemmings in different states suddenly start changing laws to solve a problem that doesn't exist .. giving these actions misleading names
like Voter integrity ..

“The presence of pornography in schools is not only inappropriate, but it is also against the law,” Abbott wrote.( no kidding all parents dont want pornin schools) but that's not the point he is making is it! its liberals are dangerous ) of course without providing any evidence it exist

It’s unclear how the governor is defining pornography or obscene content. imagine That

Heightened scrutiny over how schools teach history -- and whether it was patriotic enough or
GOP’s Banning of Books and Attack on Teachers Expose the Party’s Rising Fascism and Nationalism

Jim statement re enforces theses attacks on teachers "We may get to a point where public school teachers are a political
liability for democrats. Incredible to think about." No Jim its your party's plan to sow doubt in anything outside of the GOP ... and you are falling for it...

that's a lot of rambling with out much of a point...

Jim in CT

11-14-2021, 09:15 AM

wayne, what do you mean no evidence? parents are reading from these books at school board meetings. you’re saying they’re making it up? the school boards aren’t denying these books are in the schools.

you were the one ok with banning to kill a mockingbird. but it’s not rational to ban valueless smut?
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scottw

11-14-2021, 09:26 AM

wayne, what do you mean no evidence? parents are reading from these books at school board meetings. you’re saying they’re making it up? the school boards aren’t denying these books are in the schools.

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yeah and the school boards have to tell them to stop reading because it's inappropriate :D

I wonder if Wayne realizes he's defending inappropriate books full of pornography being available to school children in one thread while upset in another thread that a guy who performed oral sex on a bunch of 9 year olds got shot....

interesting:hs:

Jim in CT

11-14-2021, 09:43 AM

yeah and the school boards have to tell them to stop reading because it's inappropriate :D

I wonder if Wayne realizes he's defending inappropriate books full of pornography being available to school children in one thread while upset in another thread that a guy who performed oral sex on a bunch of 9 year olds got shot....

interesting:hs:

exactly! the school boards are saying the language is inappropriate.

this is why people
say liberalism is a mental disorder. he can’t even concede this is happening, because it might paint liberalism unfavorably, and that can never be allowed.

these people
don’t merely “believe” in liberalism, they are enslaved to it, they are possessed by it. every single one of them except rock hound.
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scottw

11-14-2021, 09:47 AM

rock hound.

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he's the best:musc:

Pete F.

11-14-2021, 12:03 PM

There seems to be a large portion of America that are more afraid of their kids holding a book in their hands than a gun.

The funny thing is, as soon as you tell a child they can’t read a book, they’ll want to read that book. And kids have ways of finding books like that.
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wdmso

11-14-2021, 12:16 PM

wdmso

11-14-2021, 12:21 PM

wayne, what do you mean no evidence? parents are reading from these books at school board meetings. you’re saying they’re making it up? the school boards aren’t denying these books are in the schools.

yes their lying PS Parents claim they have the right to shape their kids’ school curriculum. They don’t.

you were the one ok with banning to kill a mockingbird. but it’s not rational to ban valueless smut? Now your making stuff up
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if parents want to establish what their kids learn homeschool them
its that easy ... but you think you should decide were or who your tax money goes . not the city or town or the Government

more twisted logic

scottw

11-14-2021, 12:21 PM

scottw

11-14-2021, 12:24 PM

[QUOTE=wdmso;1217798]

... but you think you should decide were or who your tax money goes . not the city or town or the Government

more twisted logic

/QUOTE]

Are you sure you are an American?
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Jim in CT

11-14-2021, 02:06 PM

if parents want to establish what their kids learn homeschool them
its that easy ... but you think you should decide were or who your tax money goes . not the city or town or the Government

more twisted logic

what lies can you show that they are telling?

just because a statement makes your side look stupid, doesn’t mean it’s a lie. i’m sorry, that’s not how it works.

they don’t have the right? who pays for that school, einstein? by what logic does the paying customer ( who pays thousands and thousands of dollars every single year) not have. say in how their money is spent?

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Jim in CT

11-14-2021, 02:09 PM

Can you two virtue Hunters define

defining pornography or obscene content

Still waiting just more of the same conservative Hair on Fire responses

Jim still waiting on the name book your 8th grader read , and where or who gave it to him... his catholic school?

Welcome to Fascism

Some of the ugliest aspects of fascism—intolerance, repression, and violence—were fueled by what fascists saw as a morally justified struggle against “decadence.” For fascists, decadence meant a number of things: materialism, self-indulgence, hedonism, cowardice, and physical and moral softness. It was also associated with rationalism, skepticism, atheism, humanitarianism,

This is an organized attempt to attack intellectuals another pillar in the fascist playbook and you thinks it's actually about ... Parents rights just like it was about voter integrity... your being played

i didn’t see that you asked for the. some of the book.

there were two that year that talked a lot about vaginas and sexuality. one was called “I am not your perfect t mexican daughter.”

the other was “Gender Queer: A Memoir.”

have fun.

wayne, there’s video of parents reading from the pages of these books at boe meetings. the BOE members aren't accusing them
of lying about these books. so i’m not sure why you are sure they’re lying. what evidence do you have that they’re all lying?
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Jim in CT

11-14-2021, 02:10 PM

wayne accuses the right of fascism but he is the one saying “give me huge piles of your hard earned tax dollars, and you have no right to a say in how it’s spent.”

wayne, THATS fascism.

wayne wants him feds of
my dollars every month, and claims i have no say in how it’s spent. And when i offer my say, he says that’s fascist

You can’t make that up.
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detbuch

11-14-2021, 05:12 PM

wayne accuses the right of racism. but he is the one saying “give me huge piles of your hard earned tax dollars, and you have no right to a say in how it’s spent.”

wayne, THATS fascism.

wayne wants him feds of
my dollars every month, and claims i have no say in how it’s spent. And when i offer my say, he says that’s fascist

You can’t make that up.
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And the people having a say in what government teaches their children is Democracy. Wayne has it all topsy-turvy. He is a clear example of Orwellian newspeak--Fascism is Democracy and Democracy is fascism.

Or maybe what the left refers to as "our democracy" is something different than what democracy used to mean. I think so.

Pete F.

11-14-2021, 06:11 PM

As far as I know every public school in this country is under the control of elected officials.
Any citizen can run.
Intimidating elected officials looks like the new method of controlling political outcomes.
Trump’s lasting legacy will be what we now see daily. If you’re not on my team then I’m gonna kill you. It’s why exploiting divisions is the worst sin a leader can commit.
The New York Post reported that freshman Rep. Nicole Malliotakis (R-NY) appeared to be “visibly shaken” as Trump attacked her and her 12 GOP colleagues during his speech at the National Republican Congressional Committee dinner.
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wdmso

11-14-2021, 08:11 PM

wdmso

11-14-2021, 08:28 PM

i didn’t see that you asked for the. some of the book.

there were two that year that talked a lot about vaginas and sexuality. one was called “I am not your perfect t mexican daughter.”

the other was “Gender Queer: A Memoir.”

have fun.

wayne, there’s video of parents reading from the pages of these books at boe meetings. the liars members are t accusing them
of lying about these books. so i’m not sure why you are sure they’re lying. what evidence do you have that they’re all lying?
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and where did he get these books ???

not your perfect mexican

The Lord’s name is used in vain frequently. Words including the f-word, a–, s—, balls, p—, crap, d–n, b–ch, sucks, h—, whore, screw and douche appear regularly. oh the horror

Julia mentions her large boobs often and talks about how men stare at them.
Julia also stops for condoms
julia goes with her to get a pregnancy test Lorena’s friend Juanga is a gay teen
Julia notes that the kids are dancing so close they are practically dry humping. She says that someone’s going to be pregnant by the end of the dance.
She compares a bald guy at a party to a scrotum

oh the horror a book describing what kids at that age talk about and experience

Jim and you still can not provide one example where these books are part of and school curriculum ... Am I am not surprised

detbuch

11-14-2021, 08:54 PM

As far as I know every public school in this country is under the control of elected officials.
Any citizen can run.

Any citizen can object and petition the elected officials for changes in policies. Are you suggesting that once officials are elected they have unmitigated power to do as they please without complaint or redress from the citizens? You do seem to like all powerful forms of governing.

Intimidating elected officials looks like the new method of controlling political outcomes.

It is the citizens right and duty in a democracy--but apparently not in your version of "our democracy"--it is their right and duty to protest what they see as malfeasance. Isn't that what all the riots and demonstrations that you approve of are about? But it's not necessary to riot. Protests can be voiced in board meetings and town halls and letters and phone calls and petitions among various peaceful ways to communicate their objections. It is very democratic to "intimidate" elected officials with complaints that can lead to being voted out of office if they don't comply.

Trump’s lasting legacy will be what we now see daily. If you’re not on my team then I’m gonna kill you. It’s why exploiting divisions is the worst sin a leader can commit.
The New York Post reported that freshman Rep. Nicole Malliotakis (R-NY) appeared to be “visibly shaken” as Trump attacked her and her 12 GOP colleagues during his speech at the National Republican Congressional Committee dinner.
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:rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2: Didn't take long to make it about Trump again. Trump . . . Trump . . . TrumpTrumpTrump . . . TDS

Jim in CT

11-14-2021, 09:01 PM

and where did he get these books ???

not your perfect mexican

The Lord’s name is used in vain frequently. Words including the f-word, a–, s—, balls, p—, crap, d–n, b–ch, sucks, h—, whore, screw and douche appear regularly. oh the horror

Julia mentions her large boobs often and talks about how men stare at them.
Julia also stops for condoms
julia goes with her to get a pregnancy test Lorena’s friend Juanga is a gay teen
Julia notes that the kids are dancing so close they are practically dry humping. She says that someone’s going to be pregnant by the end of the dance.
She compares a bald guy at a party to a scrotum

oh the horror a book describing what kids at that age talk about and experience

Jim and you still can not provide one example where these books are part of and school curriculum ... Am I am not surprised

he got the books at school, to read for english class. did you ever go to school?

there was much more graphic language than what you posted. sorry, that’s a fact.

how would i prove that, wayne? want me to get a letter from his english teacher?

the boards of ed aren’t denying that these books are part of the courses. if your brain can’t process that, that’s in you.
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scottw

11-15-2021, 03:13 AM

Jim and Scott and the rest of the GOP and its supporters all seem to have stayed at a Holiday inn express

ok? wtf??

scottw

11-15-2021, 03:15 AM

Intimidating elected officials looks like the new method of controlling political outcomes.

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it's not new.....this is stupid....what you characterize as intimidation for one side you refer to as "how democracy works for the other"....pathetic

scottw

11-15-2021, 03:17 AM

Trump’s lasting legacy will be what we now see daily. If you’re not on my team then I’m gonna kill you.

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when pete leaves the overly dramatic lane and swerves into full stupid ahead

Jim in CT

11-15-2021, 07:42 AM

Jim and Scott and the rest of the GOP and its supporters all seem to have stayed at a Holiday inn express

they want Parents to drive education and suddenly they are the subject experts ... even if The authority to determine the curriculum rests with the district, not individual teachers. But parents know better.:bs:

they think they know more than medical professionals and demand Ivermectin and against Masks

they think the POTUS and the government control the price of Gas and can control the prices of food in a capitalistic system

they think Trump won the election reguardless of what elected officials said in both republicans and democrats .. it was not True

The Current GOP and it followers have decided They are the only arbiter's of truth.. and subject matter experts

what's next Plumbers writing electrical Code

Anti-intellectual Americans AKA GOPQ

were more likely to prefer anti-expert politicians like Trump

"Jim and Scott and the rest of the GOP and its supporters all seem to have stayed at a Holiday inn express "

What in Gods name does this mean?

"they want Parents to drive have a say in education"

fixed it for you.

"they are the subject experts"

I don't concede that it requires much "expertise" to know that there's better uses for school resources than having my kid read about going down on a girl, and being taught that his skin color is a character flaw.

Wayne, maybe if someone advocated more on your educational behalf, you wouldn't think that "I bet you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express" is some kind of insult. Maybe youd see the irony when you claim Republicans are fascists, but you want huge piles of money from us and claim we have no say in how it's spent.

"The authority to determine the curriculum rests with the district, not individual teachers"

Which is why parents are going to BOE meetings.

"they think the POTUS and the government control influence the price of Gas "

fixed it for you.

Jim in CT

11-15-2021, 07:46 AM

WDMSO -

"they want Parents to drive education and suddenly they are the subject experts"

In that post, you were adamant that parents don't know enough about education to chime in.

Have you ever bothered to see how homeschooled kids do, compared to kids who go to public school? They do pretty well. Pretty darn well. If parents don't have a clue about education, why aren't home-schooled kids lagging behind?

scottw

11-15-2021, 08:23 AM

maybe he should explain to the defund the police movement that they have no say in how the city, politicians and/or government spend their tax dollars :btu:

Jim in CT

11-15-2021, 08:28 AM

maybe he should explain to the defund the police movement that they have no say in how the city, politicians and/or government spend their tax dollars :btu:

now that you mention it! i’m sure all those people advocating for police reform are subject matter experts in that field? AOC, I’m sure, has a graduate degree in criminal
justice from John Jay College.

As always, it’s ok when they do it. only a problem when we do it.
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wdmso

11-15-2021, 09:42 AM

maybe he should explain to the defund the police movement that they have no say in how the city, politicians and/or government spend their tax dollars :btu:

Defund the police are not much different from the porn and CRT in schools people...

Both an uninformed minority with Big Mouths .... who think they are representing Mainstream Americans

Jim in CT

11-15-2021, 09:47 AM

Defund the police are not much different from the porn and CRT in schools people...

Both an uninformed minority with Big Mouths .... who think they are representing Mainstream Americans

you’re right, the opposition to CRT is limited to a small number of people in the fringe. Just ask Governor McAuliffe.

oh another difference, those opposed to CRT are expressing themselves exactly as you’d hope - speaking up at BOE meetings. they aren’t rioting, burning down buildings, looting stores.
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scottw

11-15-2021, 09:58 AM

you’re right, the opposition to CRT is limited to a small number of people in the fringe. Just ask Governor McAuliffe.

oh another difference, those opposed to CRT are expressing themselves exactly as you’d hope - speaking up at BOE meetings. they aren’t rioting, burning down buildings, looting stores.
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I wonder when Wayne first discovered he is a communist dictator?
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scottw

11-16-2021, 05:53 AM

Jim and Scott and the rest of the GOP and its supporters all seem to have stayed at a Holiday inn express

are you going to tell us what this means? :D

Jim in CT

11-16-2021, 06:33 AM

are you going to tell us what this means? :D

i’m very curious.
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wdmso

11-16-2021, 08:27 AM

are you going to tell us what this means? :D

Jim
i’m very curious.

I was wrong , seem neither of you stayed at a holiday inn express ..LOL
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wdmso

11-16-2021, 09:21 AM

Parents' Bill of Rights is needed to combat Left's indoctrination of students," Hawley, R-Mo.

A hero of yours Jim
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Jim in CT

11-16-2021, 09:34 AM

Jim
i’m very curious.

I was wrong , seem neither of you stayed at a holiday inn express ..LOL
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i have stayed in a holiday inn express. i just can’t imagine where you were going with that.
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Jim in CT

11-16-2021, 09:40 AM

Parents' Bill of Rights is needed to combat Left's indoctrination of students," Hawley, R-Mo.

A hero of yours Jim
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what happened in VA, tells me that parents agree with Hawley.

Wayne, if you endlessly demean every single thought and idea that comes from the right of where you are, and never actually listen to those people for a second, it’s hard to learn.

i’ve concluded that liberals put their fingers in their ears every single time a conservative talks, because the left is terrified that the public will conclude that there are some good ideas on the right.

none of you are capable of conceding that.

Many Parents don’t want their kids told they should feel guilty because of sins committed by people with the same skin color.

you keep saying all those parents are white supremacists and liars, wayne. the polling shows that’s really a winning strategy, isn’t it?!

You lost VA, a reliably blue state, because of that issue. Biden won VA by 10 points only a year ago, it swung that much that fast, and this was one of the biggest single issues.

you’re embracing an opinion ( parents have no say) that’s not shared even by Virginians. that means the only people who agree with you, are further to the left than those in a state Biden win by 10 points.

Go ahead and limit yourself to places more liberal than VA, see how that works in the midterms.
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Slipknot

11-29-2021, 09:26 AM

Justice Dept. Adds Two Top Prosecutors to Matt Gaetz Case
The move by the department is a sign of the complex and high-stakes nature of the sex trafficking investigation into Representative Gaetz.

maybe you have seen the latest on this

A hit piece that was first reported by the New York Times unraveled this week as the source who accused Gaetz of sex trafficking pled guilty in federal court to one count of wire fraud. The faux-scandal originated from claims that Gaetz was engaged in a sexual relationship with a 17 year-old. Vox News Reports–

“Prosecutors are reportedly investigating whether Gaetz had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old and paid for her travel, and payments he and a close associate made to young adult women he had relationships with.”
This week, the smear campaign that was reported by the liberal media went up in flames as Stephen Alford, 62, pled guilty to one count of wire fraud in relation to the accusations. The Washington Examiner Reports–

“A Florida man pleaded guilty to one count of wire fraud after attempting to obtain $25 million from the family of Rep. Matt Gaetz, federal prosecutors announced on Monday.

Stephen Alford, 62, appeared in federal court in Pensacola and admitted to orchestrating an extortion scheme against Don Gaetz, the congressman’s wealthy father, and making false promises that he could secure a presidential pardon for his son, who has been linked to a sex-trafficking investigation.”

Alford has a criminal history, including a previous conviction for fraud. After pleading guilty to wire fraud in the Gaetz case, his sentence carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in federal prison. He could also face a fine of up to $250,000.

Earlier this year, Project Veritas exposed a CNN staffer saying that they will continue to target Gaetz as he is a “problem for the Democratic Party”. “If the agenda, say, is to get, like, Matt Gaetz right now, he’s like this Republican,” Chester began. “He’s a problem for the Democratic Party because he’s so conservative, right? And he can cause a lot of hiccups in passing of laws and whatnot. So, it would be great for the Democratic Party to get him out. So we’re going to keep running those stories to keep hurting him and make it so that it can’t be buried and, like, just settled outside of court. And just like, you know, if we keep pushing that, it’s helping us.” Said Charles Chester, a CNN staffer.