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Jim in CT 11-10-2021, 08:40 AM Anyone following this?
The shooter and all three people he shot, were white. But somehow the media says he’s a white supremacist.
The prosecutions star witness ( the surviving person who he about) admitted in court that he first pointed a gun at Rittenhouses head from a few feet away, and then Rittenhouse shot him.
This kid is being tried for murder to placate the mob. There’s no conceivable case. This case, makes the Duke lacrosse case, look like an open and shut case of gang rape.
All to placate the woke mob. And sensing that things aren’t going their way, the woke mob is threatening the jury now.
It’s beyond stupid for a 17 year old to take a rifle to a riot ( where the hell were his parents). But there’s no case for murder, not even close.
Multiple prosecution witnesses are saying Rittenhouse was being attacked before he fired. And you’re allowed to do that in this country. Even white teenagers surrounded by black rioters, are entitled to defend themselves.
As usual, the media narrative bears zero resemblance to reality.
Got Stripers 11-10-2021, 01:00 PM I've been avoiding this forum due to the endless circular threads and stupidity, but thought I'd respond to this one, as I'm sure Jim will spin this into this poor youth being the innocent victim. So while this actually may have been self defense and maybe it's not premediated murder, do those people die if this idiot wasn't marching down to a riot with an illegal assault rifle he had no business possessing let along carrying. If you go marching into that situation with an assault rifle, you are just asking for trouble and while he may be able to get off on the most serious charges of premeditated murder, he should be charged at least to the same level as some drunk running down and killing an innocent pedestrian.
Spin on Jim, your the best at it.
detbuch 11-10-2021, 01:10 PM I've been avoiding this forum due to the endless circular threads and stupidity, but thought I'd respond to this one, as I'm sure Jim will spin this into this poor youth being the innocent victim. So while this actually may have been self defense and maybe it's not premediated murder, do those people die if this idiot wasn't marching down to a riot with an illegal assault rifle he had no business possessing let along carrying. If you go marching into that situation with an assault rifle, you are just asking for trouble and while he may be able to get off on the most serious charges of premeditated murder, he should be charged at least to the same level as some drunk running down and killing an innocent pedestrian.
Spin on Jim, your the best at it.
Would those people have died if they weren't marching down to a riot and attacking a well armed boy? Would Grosskreutz have been shot if he wasn't marching down to a riot with a gun for which his license to carry had expired?
spence 11-10-2021, 01:33 PM But there’s no case for murder, not even close.
He's not on trial for murder.
Got Stripers 11-10-2021, 01:48 PM Would those people have died if they weren't marching down to a riot and attacking a well armed boy? Would Grosskreutz have been shot if he wasn't marching down to a riot with a gun for which his license to carry had expired?
Jim's discussing Wittenhouse, if you want to spin it to others breaking the law feel free, never said there wasn't blame to go around. Jim is ready to go on one of his quests and I wanted to give him a good running start. Wittenhouse shot and killed two people, carrying a weapon he wasn't able to buy for himself and was carrying illegally and he should be held accountable. That is up to the courts and a jury of his peers to decide, but Jim will paint him as an innocent victim and I'm sure he will bring a full barrage of whataboutism into it at some point.
Still trolling this site I see crappie fisherman from the midwest, running out of people to debate with on this forum.
detbuch 11-10-2021, 02:03 PM Jim's discussing Wittenhouse, if you want to spin it to others breaking the law feel free,
Spinning your spin. Round and round we spin. Yup, others broke the law which doesn't seem to bother you. Spin, spin.
never said there wasn't blame to go around.
Would say it now? Do you blame Grosskreutz and the others who chased Rittenhouse?
Jim is ready to go on one of his quests and I wanted to give him a good running start. Wittenhouse shot and killed two people, carrying a weapon he wasn't able to buy for himself and was carrying illegally and he should be held accountable.
Is that what he's on trial for? Is Grosskreutz testifying that Rittenhouse was illegally carrying a gun?
That is up to the courts and a jury of his peers to decide, but Jim will paint him as an innocent victim and I'm sure he will bring a full barrage of whataboutism into it at some point.
Are you painting him as a guilty culprit before the jury decides?
Still trolling this site I see crappie fisherman from the midwest, running out of people to debate with on this forum.
Yup.
Got Stripers 11-10-2021, 02:20 PM Amazing you can read minds, such talent. Does it upset me others broke the law, certainly but this thread started about Rittenhouse and that was my focused response. Are others guilty of crimes, they probably are and if so, I hope they are charged and afforded due process as well. And yes I'm painting him as a guilty culprit, I'm not on the jury so I am entitled to my opinion, not saying he is guilty of murder, but he is a long, long, long way from being an innocent victim.
Jim in CT 11-10-2021, 02:39 PM I've been avoiding this forum due to the endless circular threads and stupidity, but thought I'd respond to this one, as I'm sure Jim will spin this into this poor youth being the innocent victim. So while this actually may have been self defense and maybe it's not premediated murder, do those people die if this idiot wasn't marching down to a riot with an illegal assault rifle he had no business possessing let along carrying. If you go marching into that situation with an assault rifle, you are just asking for trouble and while he may be able to get off on the most serious charges of premeditated murder, he should be charged at least to the same level as some drunk running down and killing an innocent pedestrian.
Spin on Jim, your the best at it.
"I'm sure Jim will spin this into this poor youth being the innocent victim."
An interesting conclusion, since I said this...
"It’s beyond stupid for a 17 year old to take a rifle to a riot"
With the exception of rockhound, you guys are all identical. When faced with a compelling argument (believe it or not, conservatives stumble upon those once in awhile), you all resort to the identical practice of pretending that I said something which I never even came close to saying. Every single time. What's in that Kool-Aid, I wonder, which makes you think that it's OK to ignore what I actually said, and respond instead to nonsensical gibberish?
"So while this actually may have been self defense"
It was obviously self-defense. If this wasn't self-defense, there's no such thing as self-defense.
"do those people die if this idiot wasn't marching down to a riot with an illegal assault rifle he had no business possessing let along carrying"
They'd also be alive, had they not given Rittenhouse reasonable cause to fear for his life. And that's what matters here.
And where's the "white supremacy" angle here, which the entire media stirred up? Everyone involved is white.
In the future, if you can respond to what I actually say, rather than pretend that I said something I never said, we will get along better, and you'll look much less foolish.
"I've been avoiding this forum"
If you're going to lie about what I say, you should have stuck with your instinct.
Jim in CT 11-10-2021, 02:42 PM He's not on trial for murder.
no case for intentional homicide. The prosecution witness admitted he was only shot after he pointed a gun at Rittenhouse.
Does the right to self-defense get waived, when a white person attends a BLM riot?
Pete F. 11-10-2021, 02:57 PM Someone has been watching Tucker again
We will be way better off when the current SCOTUS says the 2nd amendment is without limits, probably could really defund the police then since vigilantism is now ok
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detbuch 11-10-2021, 03:23 PM We will be way better off when the current SCOTUS says the 2nd amendment is without limits, probably could really defund the police then since vigilantism is now ok
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Sounds like a good idea. Trump should tweet about that. Recommend it. Wait . . . Trump packed the Court. Aha . . . I see where you're coming from. His selected bootlickers on the Court will do exactly that. Be afraid, "our democracy" is in deep trouble. Trump is going to destroy it. Trump, Trump, Trump . . . .
detbuch 11-10-2021, 04:09 PM Amazing you can read minds, such talent.
I asked some questions. Asking questions is the opposite of reading minds.
Does it upset me others broke the law, certainly but this thread started about Rittenhouse and that was my focused response.
But you brought into the discussion the others that Rittenhouse shot and questioned if they would have died if he had not been there with his weapon. That makes it fair to ask if they would have died if they had not been there and not chased Rittenhouse.
Are others guilty of crimes, they probably are and if so, I hope they are charged and afforded due process as well. And yes I'm painting him as a guilty culprit, I'm not on the jury so I am entitled to my opinion, not saying he is guilty of murder, but he is a long, long, long way from being an innocent victim.
By the same token, if Jim believes, as you're sure he does, that Rittenhouse is a "poor youth being the innocent victim", he is entitled to his opinion. So what's the point of throwing what appears to be a zinger at him.
Jim in CT 11-10-2021, 04:13 PM By the same token, if Jim believes, as you're sure he does, that Rittenhouse is a "poor youth being the innocent victim", he is entitled to his opinion. So what's the point of throwing what appears to be a zinger at him.
i’d really like to know where Rittenhouses parents were that night.
The judge tore the prosecutor a new azzhole in court today, my god he tore into him.
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The Dad Fisherman 11-10-2021, 04:45 PM He's not on trial for murder.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2021-11-02/explainer-what-charges-does-kyle-rittenhouse-face
FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESS HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON
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Jim in CT 11-10-2021, 04:50 PM Someone has been watching Tucker again
We will be way better off when the current SCOTUS says the 2nd amendment is without limits, probably could really defund the police then since vigilantism is now ok
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As always, when the facts aren't on your side, invent some new facts, respond to something that nobody is saying.
spence 11-10-2021, 05:55 PM Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2021-11-02/explainer-what-charges-does-kyle-rittenhouse-face
FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESS HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON
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I'm not wrong, they changed the definition.
spence 11-10-2021, 06:04 PM The video in this article does a nice job of a reconstruction.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/10/kyle-rittenhouse-takes-stand-kenosha-homicide-trial-quickly-breaks-down-crying/
So an underage kid carrying illegally is marching down the street like he's the boss, a guy with mental health issues throws a bag at him and even though he's armed with a semi automatic rifle he's so afraid he shoots him several times and then sprints away. The other people think he's an active shooter and try to intervene so he take them out as well.
This is lunacy, not self defense. Immature kid making very bad decisions needs to have some consequences.
The Dad Fisherman 11-10-2021, 06:06 PM I'm not wrong, they changed the definition.
No they didn’t
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The Dad Fisherman 11-10-2021, 06:09 PM The video in this article does a nice job of a reconstruction.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/10/kyle-rittenhouse-takes-stand-kenosha-homicide-trial-quickly-breaks-down-crying/
So an underage kid carrying illegally is marching down the street like he's the boss, a guy with mental health issues throws a bag at him and even though he's armed with a semi automatic rifle he's so afraid he shoots him several times and then sprints away. The other people think he's an active shooter and try to intervene so he take them out as well.
This is lunacy, not self defense. Immature kid making very bad decisions needs to have some consequences.
Funny how you left this part out
“Richard McGinnis, a reporter who was trailing Rittenhouse, told investigators that Rosenbaum tried to grab Rittenhouse's gun, according to the criminal complaint.”
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spence 11-10-2021, 06:14 PM No they didn’t
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For a murder charge they would have to show Rittenhouse came there with intent to hurt or kill people.
The Dad Fisherman 11-10-2021, 06:22 PM For a murder charge they would have to show Rittenhouse came there with intent to hurt or kill people.
That’s first degree murder, there are other degrees of murder that don’t require intent
“ Typically, second-degree murder is defined as murder that is not premeditated, or murder that is caused by the offender's reckless conduct that displays an obvious lack of concern for human life.”
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spence 11-10-2021, 06:23 PM Funny how you left this part out
“Richard McGinnis, a reporter who was trailing Rittenhouse, told investigators that Rosenbaum tried to grab Rittenhouse's gun, according to the criminal complaint.”
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If a vigilante is pushing a gun in your face don't you have a right to self defense?
Pete F. 11-10-2021, 06:37 PM As always, when the facts aren't on your side, invent some new facts, respond to something that nobody is saying.
You have no facts
It’s a trial to establish the facts
Your supposition assumes that teenage vigilantes are a good thing for our society.
I will vehemently disagree
Any reasonable human would
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The Dad Fisherman 11-10-2021, 06:55 PM If a vigilante is pushing a gun in your face don't you have a right to self defense?
Sure, but that’s not what happened
“Bystander video shows Rosenbaum chasing Rittenhouse through a parking lot and throwing a plastic bag at him. Rittenhouse flees behind a car and Rosenbaum follows.”
“Richard McGinnis, a reporter who was trailing Rittenhouse, told investigators that Rosenbaum tried to grab Rittenhouse's gun, according to the criminal complaint.”
If a mentally unstable man chases you and tries to take your gun away, you’re well within your rights to shoot him
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Jim in CT 11-10-2021, 07:27 PM If a vigilante is pushing a gun in your face don't you have a right to self defense?
you chose to leave that out, and got caught. what are you afraid would happen exactly, if you stopped putting a pro-liberal spin on every single thing you post? Seriously, what are you afraid of?
Rittenhouse didn’t go on a crazy shooting spree. the guy he shot who survived, testifies ( with supporting photo evidence) that rittenhouse had his rifle in his hands, but didn’t shoot the guy until
he pointed his gun at Rittenhouses face.
It was beyond stupid for Rittenhouse to go there with a rifle ( was he carrying illegally? is he charged with that?).
it’s also very dangerous to engage in violent riots for no good reason. that created the situation. maybe, just maybe, if prominent liberals
told the rioters to stand down instead of encouraging them, we also wouldn’t be having this conversation. if liberal
mayors and governors cared enough about public safety and less about political optics, they’d have called in the national guard to quell those riots, and vigilante wannabes wouldn’t have felt any need to step up.
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Jim in CT 11-10-2021, 07:29 PM Sure, but that’s not what happened
“Bystander video shows Rosenbaum chasing Rittenhouse through a parking lot and throwing a plastic bag at him. Rittenhouse flees behind a car and Rosenbaum follows.”
“Richard McGinnis, a reporter who was trailing Rittenhouse, told investigators that Rosenbaum tried to grab Rittenhouse's gun, according to the criminal complaint.”
If a mentally unstable man chases you and tries to take your gun away, you’re well within your rights to shoot him
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this prosecution is a joke. a politically motivated joke. and they already saw someone taking photos of jurors, that’s not any kind of bad sign. they should dismiss the jurors and drop the charges.
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Jim in CT 11-10-2021, 07:32 PM You have no facts
It’s a trial to establish the facts
Your supposition assumes that teenage vigilantes are a good thing for our society.
I will vehemently disagree
Any reasonable human would
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in this case, I have all the facts. the reality of what happened bears no resemblance to how the media covered this. you guys are also desperately and laughably trying to spin this.
fact: a prosecution witness admitted that he pointed his gun at rittenhouse BEFORE Rittenhouse fired. If that’s not self defense, nothing is.
don’t you get tired of hitting yourself in the face with eggs?
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Pete F. 11-10-2021, 08:03 PM in this case, I have all the facts. the reality of what happened bears no resemblance to how the media covered this. you guys are also desperately and laughably trying to spin this.
fact: a prosecution witness admitted that he pointed his gun at rittenhouse BEFORE Rittenhouse fired. If that’s not self defense, nothing is.
don’t you get tired of hitting yourself in the face with eggs?
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Let’s be clear
If a black teenager had crossed state lines, armed himself with an illegally acquired assault rifle, attended a MAGA rally, ignored the curfew, picked a fight and killed two people.
The trial would be a formality and he’d be heading for prison for life.
Oh yeah, he was a vigilante
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Jim in CT 11-10-2021, 08:08 PM Rosenbaum had also threatened to
kill Rittenhouse, then later tried to grab his gun. Self defense.
again, this was all made possible by elected officials who did nothing to stop the riots.
Joe Biden, naturally, called him a white supremacist. because he #^&#^&#^&#^& three white people. And biden gets a pass for lying. as always.
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Pete F. 11-10-2021, 08:20 PM Rosenbaum had also threatened to
kill Rittenhouse, then later tried to grab his gun. Self defense.
again, this was all made possible by elected officials who did nothing to stop the riots.
Joe Biden, naturally, called him a white supremacist. because he #^&#^&#^&#^& three white people. And biden gets a pass for lying. as always.
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Your little heroes mother drove him across state lines with a gun.
When Kyle told the cops he had just shot someone, the officer ultimately tells him to “Go home! Go home! Go home!”
He did.
Is that what it’s like for people like KyleRittenhouse in America?
Explain further how white privilege doesn’t exist
Clown
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Jim in CT 11-10-2021, 08:22 PM Your little heroes mother drove him across state lines with a gun.
When Kyle told the cops he had just shot someone, the officer ultimately tells him to “Go home! Go home! Go home!”
He did.
Is that what it’s like for people like KyleRittenhouse in America?
Explain further how white privilege doesn’t exist
Clown
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i said he was very stupid. from that, you interpret he’s my hero.
you don’t get invited to too many MENSA picnics, do you?
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Jim in CT 11-10-2021, 08:25 PM can one of the liberals here, comment on the notion spread by the left, that Rittenhouses actions are the acts of a white suoremacist? He shot theee whites people.
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Pete F. 11-10-2021, 08:41 PM can one of the liberals here, comment on the notion spread by the left, that Rittenhouses actions are the acts of a white suoremacist? He shot theee whites people.
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You were fed that by who?
I would surmise that it may have been said by A talking head on TV
Then amplified by right wing media
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Pete F. 11-10-2021, 08:47 PM When Kyle told the cops he had just shot someone, the officer ultimately tells him to “Go home! Go home! Go home!”
He did.
Is that what it’s like for people like KyleRittenhouse in America?
Explain further how white privilege doesn’t exist
Clown
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Well Mr Mensa?
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Jim in CT 11-10-2021, 08:57 PM Well Mr Mensa?
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you’re responding to your own posts now? that’s not weird.
investigate the cop who told him that. but that summer, we kind of stopped enforcing laws. rioters allowed to riot, looters slowed to loot, arsonists allowed to burn buildings. liberals are the ones willing to forget about the law when there’s political capital to gain.
Duh.
If there was white orivilege, he would t be facing BS charges that could imprison him for life.
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Pete F. 11-10-2021, 09:19 PM you’re responding to your own posts now? that’s not weird.
investigate the cop who told him that. but that summer, we kind of stopped enforcing laws. rioters allowed to riot, looters slowed to loot, arsonists allowed to burn buildings. liberals are the ones willing to forget about the law when there’s political capital to gain.
Duh.
If there was white orivilege, he would t be facing BS charges that could imprison him for life.
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I’ll never catch up to you in posts, little girl
Nobody was not enforcing laws, that’s why cops were all around when Kyle Rittenhouse was walking around with a gun, though they failed to ask him any questions.
Wonder why
Just what would you suggest an appropriate response from law enforcement to rioters would be?
Would that same response have been appropriate on January 6th?
Two people are dead and one misguided kids life’s all f’d up
You’re blaming it on liberals, I suppose they bought him a gun and drove him there
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Jim in CT 11-10-2021, 09:26 PM I’ll never catch up to you in posts, little girl
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no surprise, since you were banned from starting them. did you ever ask yourself why that happened? how deranged and obsessed you are?
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detbuch 11-10-2021, 09:41 PM Your little heroes mother drove him across state lines with a gun.
When Kyle told the cops he had just shot someone, the officer ultimately tells him to “Go home! Go home! Go home!”
He did.
Is that what it’s like for people like KyleRittenhouse in America?
Explain further how white privilege doesn’t exist
Clown
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There's not enough information in that little sketch to determine anything about "white privilege," but it's skimpy enough to jump to a conclusion if you want to.
I remember being on Jury in Detroit several years ago in a trial of a small group of black teens in a black neighborhood just outside of Grosse Pointe who had observed a white man in a Cadillac coming from the direction of Grosse Pointe daily passing through their neighborhood down that street always at about the same time. They decided to place a fallen tree across the road around that time to block him. When he stopped and got out of the car to remove the tree they jumped him, beat him up, and the upshot was that he died as a result of their attack.
We, the jury, were given the facts, then, I can't remember, either the trial commenced awhile or just after it did, the judge, a famous black judge in Detroit at the time, put a halt and ordered us back into the jury room where we waited to find out what was up. After some time, the Judge came in, smiling, and informing us that we were not going to go through the inconvenience of a trial. That he had made the decision, because of the unjust racist conditions that the teens had experienced all their lives they could not be truly culpable, that they did not understand the gravity of what they had done. And he had given them a good stern lecture on how what they did was wrong and that they could ruin their lives and spend the rest of their life in prison if they continued down that path. He was convinced that they understood and told them if they did not change and if they ever did such a thing again, he would see to it that they would spend the rest of their lives in prison. And he released them.
He was obviously pleased with how he handled it and happily gave us the news, probably thinking we would understand and be satisfied and happy as well that we could go home.
It was a long time ago, and I've forgotten the details and my account is probably not accurate in the details. But I remember that I felt something was not right. That, though the judge was right that I would be glad not to go through a trial, I didn't feel that justice had been served. But, apparently, he being a longstanding and important judge, there must have been a valid reason for what he did.
Pete F. 11-10-2021, 09:47 PM no surprise, since you were banned from starting them. did you ever ask yourself why that happened? how deranged and obsessed you are?
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Poor victim
Ranting in a new thread daily about the horrible things Tucker tells you are happening to you.
Life in white suburbia that bad?
If these last few years have taught us anything, it’s that entitled folks like you are a lot easier to turn into domestic terrorists than those that have faced actual adversity and oppression. The comforts of consumerism have bred such contempt and lack of empathy in so many Americans.
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Jim in CT 11-10-2021, 09:54 PM Poor victim
Ranting in a new thread daily about the horrible things Tucker tells you are happening to you.
Life in white suburbia that bad?
If these last few years have taught us anything, it’s that entitled folks like you are a lot easier to turn into domestic terrorists than those that have faced actual adversity and oppression. The comforts of consumerism have bred such contempt and lack of empathy in so many Americans.
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Good luck with all of that!
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Raider Ronnie 11-11-2021, 05:56 PM Poor victim
Ranting in a new thread daily about the horrible things Tucker tells you are happening to you.
Life in white suburbia that bad?
If these last few years have taught us anything, it’s that entitled folks like you are a lot easier to turn into domestic terrorists than those that have faced actual adversity and oppression. The comforts of consumerism have bred such contempt and lack of empathy in so many Americans.
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You by chance have any “Empathy” for all the business owners losing everything because their businesses are being looted & or burnt to the ground 🤔
I’m going to go out on a limb & guess you are also all for defunding the police !
Got Stripers 11-11-2021, 06:31 PM You by chance have any “Empathy” for all the business owners losing everything because their businesses are being looted & or burnt to the ground 🤔
I’m going to go out on a limb & guess you are also all for defunding the police !
Has no bearing on whether wittenhouse (Emmy winner for crocodile tears) is guilty. Personally I feel for any small business owners who get caught in the middle of political protests, it’s been happening to many businesses for decades, due to where these protests have to happen to have any impact, it’s collateral damage and unfortunate.
Raider Ronnie 11-11-2021, 07:42 PM Has no bearing on whether wittenhouse (Emmy winner for crocodile tears) is guilty. Personally I feel for any small business owners who get caught in the middle of political protests, it’s been happening to many businesses for decades, due to where these protests have to happen to have any impact, it’s collateral damage and unfortunate.
That bull#^&#^&#^&#^&.
If my business is there and they are trying to burn it down I’m unloading till there are no bullets left.
Got Stripers 11-11-2021, 08:03 PM That bull#^&#^&#^&#^&.
If my business is there and they are trying to burn it down I’m unloading till there are no bullets left.
Well there are 13 Republicans who voted with the Democratics, hope you have another clip, I know you believe those evil Democratics stole the election :cheers2:
Jim in CT 11-11-2021, 10:23 PM Has no bearing on whether wittenhouse (Emmy winner for crocodile tears) is guilty. Personally I feel for any small business owners who get caught in the middle of political protests, it’s been happening to many businesses for decades, due to where these protests have to happen to have any impact, it’s collateral damage and unfortunate.
No it has no bearing. but if elected leaders did their damn job and put down those riots, Rittenhouse wouldn’t have felt the need to be a vigilante. again, that also has no bearing i. whether or not he’s guilty.
What does have bearing, is the videos showing very clearly, that any reasonable person would have felt threatened by what the three people were doing who he shot. that does have some bearing.
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Jim in CT 11-11-2021, 10:24 PM The video in this article does a nice job of a reconstruction.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/10/kyle-rittenhouse-takes-stand-kenosha-homicide-trial-quickly-breaks-down-crying/
So an underage kid carrying illegally is marching down the street like he's the boss, a guy with mental health issues throws a bag at him and even though he's armed with a semi automatic rifle he's so afraid he shoots him several times and then sprints away. The other people think he's an active shooter and try to intervene so he take them out as well.
This is lunacy, not self defense. Immature kid making very bad decisions needs to have some consequences.
you also left out that the guy said he was going to kill Rittenhouse.
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scottw 11-12-2021, 05:05 AM you also left out that the guy said he was going to kill Rittenhouse.
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the left and media lied and mischaracterized this entire thing as they've done with so many other things...they will continue to deny...it's a sickness
scottw 11-12-2021, 05:08 AM Quote:
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This is lunacy, not self defense. Immature kid making very bad decisions needs to have some consequences.
the self-defense expert said it was self-defense...are you a self-defense expert?
criminals and lunatics running around attacking people that are not threatening them need to have some consequences....oooops....they did
Jim in CT 11-12-2021, 07:11 AM the left and media lied and mischaracterized this entire thing as they've done with so many other things...they will continue to deny...it's a sickness
it’s actually a well
coordinated plot, i think. but in 2016, that led to trump. who knows what it might lead to in 2022 and 2024.
spence, if someone points a loaded handgun at your forehead from 3 feet away, is it self defense?
if someone is smashing you in the neck and head with a skateboard, are you at risk of serious injury?
and if someone said they’re going to kill you and then tried to wrestle your gun away from you, there’s no argument for self defense?
we all know exactly what tune you’d be singing if rittenhouse was a black
kid who shot some of the january 6 rioters.
the reality of what happened here, isn’t even close to the way it was portrayed by democrats and the media. Not even close. There’s no such thing as “news” anymore. It was spun deliberately for political
reasons, and tney do that, because it works in lemmings like….well, you know who they are.
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wdmso 11-12-2021, 08:06 AM the left and media lied and mischaracterized this entire thing as they've done with so many other things...they will continue to deny...it's a sickness
And Derek Chauvin was just doing his Job…
But only the left and the media. Lie and mischaracterize things
More evidence right wing brainwashing is working
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Jim in CT 11-12-2021, 08:16 AM And Derek Chauvin was just doing his Job…
But only the left and the media. Lie and mischaracterize things
More evidence right wing brainwashing is working
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what’s the longest you can go, before you respond to something that nobody said?
are you even aware of how often you do it? or what it means that you do it constantly?
One guy he shot, was pointing a gun at his head from a few feet away.
Another guy he shot, told Rittenhousebhebwas going to kill him, then friend to wrestle his gun away from him.
The third guy, was beating him in the head and neck with a skateboard.
Does that make Rittenhouse the skinhead murdered that your side desperately wants him to be?
you know you can’t win the facts of this case, so you go to a case where the facts are on your side. But the facts won’t always be in your side wayne. sorry to break it to you. sometimes the facts paint the conservative issue in a favorable light.
but like spence, you can’t accept that. not once, not ever. the left has to win every single time.
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wdmso 11-12-2021, 08:23 AM No it has no bearing. but if elected leaders did their damn job and put down those riots, Rittenhouse wouldn’t have felt the need to be a vigilante. again, that also has no bearing i. whether or not he’s guilty.
What does have bearing, is the videos showing very clearly, that any reasonable person would have felt threatened by what the three people were doing who he shot. that does have some bearing.
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Here we go agin if liberals should have crushed these riots like Trump wanted to do
Rittenhouse The poor underage AR carrying child influenced by right wing heroism and the usual MAGA nonsense
He Wouldn’t have become the Victim that he is ..,
Thats not a rational argument that’s a partisan argument
What this case does show
That open carry laws seem to benefit the person who shoots 1st then yells self defense
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Jim in CT 11-12-2021, 08:31 AM Here we go agin if liberals should have crushed these riots like Trump wanted to do
Rittenhouse The poor underage AR carrying child influenced by right wing heroism and the usual MAGA nonsense
He Wouldn’t have become the Victim that he is ..,
Thats not a rational argument that’s a partisan argument
What this case does show
That open carry laws seem to benefit the person who shoots 1st then yells self defense
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i didn’t say “liberals”, I said elected officials. once again, you lie.
i have said here, i also give trump a big fat F for not sending in the military to put down the riots. once the governors refuse to keep peace, it’s his job to do so. and he failed
miserably.
Are you ever honest for ten consecutive seconds?
I don’t know or care what party these mayors are. what i care about, is that they allowed this to happen.
I’ve also said it was insane for a 17 year old to drive there. But sorry to break it to you, even stupid teenagers have the right to self defense.
i’m stating the facts of this particular case. If the facts of the case happen to make one political
party look dishonest and crazy, that’s not my fault, it’s the fault of the liars and incompetents. Interesting that you can never criticize them, but always blame the people
who merely point out the truth.
but you’re not about truth. your about supporting liberalism.
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Pete F. 11-12-2021, 08:38 AM Let’s see, if the kid didn’t break the law nothing would have happened.
Those killed that day were only 2 of the 40 killed each day with a gun in this country.
No problem here
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Jim in CT 11-12-2021, 08:43 AM Let’s see, if the kid didn’t break the law nothing would have happened.
Those killed that day were only 2 of the 40 killed each day with a gun in this country.
No problem here
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defending yourself isn’t breaking the law.
Pete, what would your tell a. haines owner who pays his taxes and is a good citizen. whose business is burning to the ground because of something he had absolutely nothing to do with, and the cops and firemen he’s oYing won’t help because their elected bosses are too afraid of the political
optics to enforce the law? what would you say to that business owner? “suck it up, cupcake?”
he’s supposed to watch his entire life burn down for something he had absolutely no part in?
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The Dad Fisherman 11-12-2021, 08:56 AM criminals and lunatics running around attacking people that are not threatening them need to have some consequences....oooops....they did
https://img.ifunny.co/images/77eb25d62b94e141c9c10ea690369c87c266e47cae84ddb576 e7a54e179c12e3_1.jpg
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scottw 11-12-2021, 09:18 AM Let’s see, if the kid didn’t break the law nothing would have happened.
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we are determining that right now...doesn't look good for the prosecutor that brought the charges
scottw 11-12-2021, 09:20 AM And Derek Chauvin was just doing his Job…
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isn't he in jail?
Raider Ronnie 11-12-2021, 10:54 AM For all of the apologist here that say he shouldn’t have been there, then tell me who the hell SHOULD have been there ???
Where are the police stopping the thugs from starting the fires ???
Where’s the military ???
I’m pretty sure this had been going on for a few days prior and plenty of businesses were torched to the ground before this kid showed up.
Unlike most on this forum this kid had balls doing what he did !
This #^&#^&#^&#^&ing country, courts & politicians are making it so criminals have more rights than law abiding citizens.
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scottw 11-12-2021, 10:57 AM the left and media are now attacking the judge....these people need better safe spaces...maybe put some funding for that in build back better
Jim in CT 11-12-2021, 11:05 AM For all of the apologist here that say he shouldn’t have been there, then tell me who the hell SHOULD have been there ???
Where are the police stopping the thugs from starting the fires ???
Where’s the military ???
I’m pretty sure this had been going on for a few days prior and plenty of businesses were torched to the ground before this kid showed up.
Unlike most on this forum this kid had balls doing what he did !
This #^&#^&#^&#^&ing country, courts & politicians are making it so criminals have more rights than law abiding citizens.
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here’s who should have been there - local police, state police, national guard, federal troops if need be. the mayor, governor, and trump all did nothing to quell these riots.
say what you want about Rudy Giuliani, this stuff didnt happen when he was mayor. He didn’t allow it.
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Pete F. 11-12-2021, 12:53 PM say what you want about Rudy Giuliani, this stuff didnt happen when he was mayor. He didn’t allow it.
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That’s comical
Before January 6th, 2021, there was September 16th, 1992 -- a day that bore much in common with Wednesday’s assault on the Capitol.
A peaceful demonstration turned ugly. Thousands pushed past barricades and mobbed the seat of government -- in this case, City Hall in lower Manhattan. There was vandalism.
And firing up the crowd was Rudy Giuliani.
Giuliani, then a candidate for mayor running on a law-and-order platform, gave a fiery speech to an enormous crowd of protesters that consisted largely of off-duty police officers. They’d gathered to protest then-Mayor David Dinkins and his plan for an all-civilian police oversight board.
“The reason the morale of the police department of the city of New York is so low,” Giuliani said, “is one reason, and one reason alone: David Dinkins!”
The protest devolved into mayhem, as rioters jumped on cars and blocked traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge. On-duty officers did little to police the crowd, much like the scene Wednesday at the Capitol.
Then, as now, critics said Giuliani, a former U.S. Attorney, was culpable.
“For Rudy Giuliani to urge them on, as it were, demonstrates an irresponsibility on his behalf,” Dinkins said that day. “He who professes to be a law enforcement person.”
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wdmso 11-12-2021, 01:46 PM what’s the longest you can go, before you respond to something that nobody said?
are you even aware of how often you do it? or what it means that you do it constantly?
One guy he shot, was pointing a gun at his head from a few feet away.
Another guy he shot, told Rittenhousebhebwas going to kill him, then friend to wrestle his gun away from him.
The third guy, was beating him in the head and neck with a skateboard.
Does that make Rittenhouse the skinhead murdered that your side desperately wants him to be?
you know you can’t win the facts of this case, so you go to a case where the facts are on your side. But the facts won’t always be in your side wayne. sorry to break it to you. sometimes the facts paint the conservative issue in a favorable light.
but like spence, you can’t accept that. not once, not ever. the left has to win every single time.
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There you go again totally clueless to what the majority of the Maga universe was saying about his derek chauvin
Kyle Rittenhouse flashes white-power sign at bar while out on bond
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/kyle-rittenhouse-flashes-white-power-sign-with-proud-boys/
Keep avoiding the real reason Rittenhouse was there and who influenced him..
If he was watching porn and play video game like normal 17year olds he would not be in this mess
But now he’s an example of how Josh Hawley Want conservative men to act he should be your new Savior
hand-wringing over pornography, another traditionalist subscribing to outdated gender norms by saying “a man is a father, a man is a husband, a man is someone who takes responsibility,” and another male politician cautioning that a supposed liberal attack on manhood was at the root of this rot.
Another example of fear and hysteria. By the GOP
It’s a daily thing
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Jim in CT 11-12-2021, 02:15 PM There you go again totally clueless to what the majority of the Maga universe was saying about his derek chauvin
Kyle Rittenhouse flashes white-power sign at bar while out on bond
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/kyle-rittenhouse-flashes-white-power-sign-with-proud-boys/
Keep avoiding the real reason Rittenhouse was there and who influenced him..
If he was watching porn and play video game like normal 17year olds he would not be in this mess
But now he’s an example of how Josh Hawley Want conservative men to act he should be your new Savior
hand-wringing over pornography, another traditionalist subscribing to outdated gender norms by saying “a man is a father, a man is a husband, a man is someone who takes responsibility,” and another male politician cautioning that a supposed liberal attack on manhood was at the root of this rot.
Another example of fear and hysteria. By the GOP
It’s a daily thing
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"Kyle Rittenhouse flashes white-power sign at bar while out on bond
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/kyle-rittenhouse-flashes-white-power-sign-with-proud-boys/"
When was this? This was before anyone on the left said he was a white supremacist? If it was before anyone made that claim, you made a good point.
"Keep avoiding the real reason Rittenhouse was there and who influenced him.. "
I'm not a mind reader. He says he was there to help people defend property. His actions support that.
"If he was watching porn and play video game like normal 17year olds he would not be in this mess":
I said all along it was stupid for him to go there. Also, if town and state government did their job, there'd have been no riot he felt he needed to clean up. If liberals weren't protesting police brutality by burning down businesses of people who had nothing to do with police brutality, we also wouldn't be having this conversation. A lot of people screwed up royally before he got into his car. His parents must really be pieces of work.
"hand-wringing over pornography"
Not sure what that has to do with anything. But you're right, I don't generally like forcing children to look at porn.
"“a man is a father, a man is a husband, a man is someone who takes responsibility,”"
I have no idea who said that, but I agree with it.
"male politician cautioning that a supposed liberal attack on manhood was at the root of this rot."
Again, no idea who you mean. But liberalism is at the root cause of every politically-motivated riot in the last 40 years I can think of, except January 6. When liberals don't get their way, they riot. It will probably happen again with Rittenhouse.
The head of BLM in New York City said very specifically, "there will be fires, there will be bloodshed" if the new mayor tries to revert back to prior police tactics.
How is that not domestic terrorism? Parents who make the Nazi salute at a school board meeting are domestic terrorists, but not the head of BLM who said that?
The Dad Fisherman 11-12-2021, 02:32 PM I get a kick out of the whole “he shouldn’t have been there, therefore he’s guilty” angle
Yes it was immensely stupid for him to be there, but last time I checked, stupidity isn’t illegal (although it should be) It also isn’t illegal for him to be there. It’s a moot point on whether it was self defense or not.
The events as they unfolded in regards to the actions he took are all that matter in the context of this trial
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I get a kick out of the whole “he shouldn’t have been there, therefore he’s guilty” angle
Yes it was immensely stupid for him to be there, but last time I checked, stupidity isn’t illegal (although it should be) It also isn’t illegal for him to be there. It’s a moot point on whether it was self defense or not.
The events as they unfolded in regards to the actions he took are all that matter in the context of this trial
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HE WENT THERE WITH A SEMI AUTOMATIC ASSULT RIFLE. HE WAS NOT OLD ENOUGH TO OWN ONE!!!! Wtf dude…..
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The Dad Fisherman 11-12-2021, 06:38 PM HE WENT THERE WITH A SEMI AUTOMATIC ASSULT RIFLE. HE WAS NOT OLD ENOUGH TO OWN ONE!!!! Wtf dude…..
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And he will probably be found guilty on that charge, Dude
The self defense is a different set of circumstances and charges, Dude
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Got Stripers 11-12-2021, 06:45 PM He is guilty of the worst fake tears and emotion I’ve ever seen, do stupid things you might do stupid time, there is no cure for stupid.
Jim in CT 11-12-2021, 06:55 PM He is guilty of the worst fake tears and emotion I’ve ever seen, do stupid things you might do stupid time, there is no cure for stupid.
WHo knows what he was feeling. Not hard to imagine an 18 year-old in that situation would be overwhelmed, is it?
Anyway, he shot three people.
One of them, had a gun pointed at the kids head from a few feet away.
A second one, was smashing him in the head and neck with a skateboard.
Third one told Rittenhouse he was going to kill him, then tried wrestling the gun from his hands.
Which of those 3, can be presumed to not be self defense beyond any reasonable doubt? Come on.
He was very stupid, and he probably went looking for trouble and found it. His parents are also at fault, what awful parents they must be. This is reason number 100,000 why violent riots are not a good idea, and why states should not ignore violent riots.
scottw 11-13-2021, 05:21 AM He is guilty of the worst fake tears and emotion I’ve ever seen, do stupid things you might do stupid time, there is no cure for stupid.
wow...I wonder what the punishment is for fake tears and emotion....you need help too
scottw 11-13-2021, 05:43 AM Anyway, he shot three people.
One of them, had a gun pointed at the kids head from a few feet away.
A second one, was smashing him in the head and neck with a skateboard.
Third one told Rittenhouse he was going to kill him, then tried wrestling the gun from his hands.
Which of those 3, can be presumed to not be self defense beyond any reasonable doubt? Come on.
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yes, a kid who wasn't bothering anyone who happened to be armed shot a few "adults" who were attacking, threatening him and had a gun pointed at him and it's the fault of the kid who wasn't bothering anyone...
so sick and twisted..
if you want to read how upside down and twisted the left and media and snopes is read their account and characterization of the "evidence"
https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/11/rittenhouse-victims-records/
“Everybody was there exercising their right to protest. And there were some people who were exercising their right to bear arms, including myself.” Grosskreutz said...
Grosskreutz was found guilty in 2016 of breaking Wisconsin’s law governing the use of dangerous weapons “armed while intoxicated” per Milwaukee County court records.
Additionally, Grosskreutz at various points received tickets for minor offenses including disobeying police officers and making loud noises, the court records showed. However, no evidence showed he had indeed committed burglary, though he had been arrested on suspicion of the crime in 2012. The felony charge was later dismissed, per Wisconsin Department of Justice’s criminal data.
Rosenbaum was sentenced to prison for sexually abusing five children — all boys between the ages of 9 and 11 — in Arizona’s Pima County in early 2002, according to his case file obtained via a public records request by Snopes.
The documents said Rosenbaum was temporarily living with the boys’ parents after his mother had kicked him out for disobeying her rules about one month earlier. Over the course of his weeks-long stay, Rosenbaum molested the boys, showed them porn, and performed oral sex on them, among other offenses, the documents showed. He was sentenced to prison for roughly 15 years, and authorities believed at the time “his risk to recidivate being of great concern to the community” considering the victims’ gender and age.
Huber, who was 18 years old at the time, threatened his brother and grandmother at their home with a knife, choked the brother, and demanded that they follow his orders. The complaint said the brother wanted to take Huber to a hospital, apparently for emergency mental health help, but Huber resisted. In the end, he was charged with strangulation and suffocation and false imprisonment, both of which are felony crimes.
snopes is #$cked....the left is twisted, amazing how they will continue to make heroes out of the most screwed up, whacked out miscreants and attack viciously anyone that they think opposed their world view...you need to read the snopes entire article to see how they desperately characterize each bit of info to turn the kid into a monster and the criminals into saints...it's pretty remarkable
wdmso 11-13-2021, 08:15 AM I get a kick out of the whole “he shouldn’t have been there, therefore he’s guilty” angle
Yes it was immensely stupid for him to be there, but last time I checked, stupidity isn’t illegal (although it should be) It also isn’t illegal for him to be there. It’s a moot point on whether it was self defense or not.
The events as they unfolded in regards to the actions he took are all that matter in the context of this trial
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But when a cops shoots an unarmed person all we hear from the usual suspects is they should have done this or should have done that . And the favorite do stupid things win stupid prizes
now you have someone clearly going to Pick a fight to defend property that isn’t his Juiced on Right wing ideas being praised by the police.. gets over his head and killed 2 people claiming self defense
but dead men can’t Claim self defense they are dead
And the one with a gun pointed at the kid suddenly is not allow to defend himself curious
Rittenhouse went their to look cool like he was some bad ass ( he was 17 and seems to have the maturity of a 15 year old .. not unusual but every adult failed that kid . He was used as a little proxy fighter for the MAGA and these militia cause, and is still being championed as a hero by these same groups .. and supported by them and their like mind followers
look at how is defense was funded .. you don’t see that everyday .
I have a hard time with these stand your ground or open carry self defense cases
so you are carrying a gun . start a fight start loosing the fight shoot the person you started the fight with and claim self defense?
Welcome to America
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scottw 11-13-2021, 08:20 AM now you have someone clearly going to Pick a fight
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who did he pick a fight with?...are you paying attention at all?
scottw 11-13-2021, 08:21 AM so you are carrying a gun . start a fight start loosing the fight shoot the person you started the fight with and claim self defense?
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again...who did he start a fight with?
scottw 11-13-2021, 08:24 AM how CNN is describing the trial
(CNN)Despite last year's demonstrations supporting racial justice and substantive efforts at political reform, the system that devalues Black lives remains largely -- and powerfully -- intact.
Kyle Rittenhouse, the 18-year-old on trial in Kenosha, Wisconsin, for shooting three people and killing two of them, represents the epitome of White privilege in America run amok.
these people are brain damaged beyond repair at CNN
wdmso 11-13-2021, 12:11 PM Scott if you think strapping on an AR 15 and walking into a riot isn't looking for a fight .. I can't imagine what you think would fit your version of looking for a fight?
Let's be honest all these wanna be Operators with their molly tactical vests ammo pouches and helmets complete with night vision mounts Ar 15's with their pistol grips and rail systems and ACOG and CCO optics walking around at protest or the capitol
Their not looking for a Fight or trying to intimidate anyone it's just an innocent 2A fashion show ...
scottw 11-13-2021, 12:22 PM Scott if you think strapping on an AR 15 and walking into a riot isn't looking for a fight .. I can't imagine what you think would fit your version of looking for a fight?
Let's be honest all these wanna be Operators with their molly tactical vests ammo pouches and helmets complete with night vision mounts Ar 15's with their pistol grips and rail systems and ACOG and CCO optics walking around at protest or the capitol
Their not looking for a Fight or trying to intimidate anyone it's just an innocent 2A fashion show ...
you didn't answer the question
Got Stripers 11-13-2021, 04:57 PM yes, a kid who wasn't bothering anyone who happened to be armed shot a few "adults" who were attacking, threatening him and had a gun pointed at him and it's the fault of the kid who wasn't bothering anyone...
First I have to say this goes above and beyond the typical one line snarky post, but this is the only part I’d respond to. You ar3 the one who needs help with that fu*cked up perspective. So a teen carrying a weapon he couldn’t purchase and was illegally carrying goes across state lines to a two day running riot and he is there to not bother anyone, you clearly are wired directly into the far right news machine.
Jim in CT 11-13-2021, 05:00 PM First I have to say this goes above and beyond the typical one line snarky post, but this is the only part I’d respond to. You ar3 the one who needs help with that fu*cked up perspective. So a teen carrying a weapon he couldn’t purchase and was illegally carrying goes across state lines to a two day running riot and he is there to not bother anyone, you clearly are wired directly into the far right news machine.
he was there to help. he didn’t go there and start shooting.
if you put every dime you had into a business that was being destroyed over an event you had absolutely nothing to do with, and your elected officials refused to protect you for political reasons, what would you do?
if he had the gun illegally, he’ll get charged for that.
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detbuch 11-13-2021, 05:13 PM he was there to help. he didn’t go there and start shooting.
if you put every dime you had into a business that was being destroyed over an event you had absolutely nothing to do with, and your elected officials refused to protect you for political reasons, what would you do?
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Got Stripers seems to be saying that if Rittenhouse did not defend himself, and he was killed he would have deserved to die and justice would have been served. I presume his defense of the killers would have been that they wouldn't have done it if he wasn't there. After all, they all knew that he had "crossed state lines." And they all knew that he was there to make trouble. And they all knew he was too young to be carrying the gun. And so, in actuality, they would have been defending themselves from what they all knew was this crazed lunatic who surely would have killed them if they didn't kill him first. And, after all, they were all upstanding legal citizens protecting their rights and their country.
Of course that wouldn't have been vigilantism. They were all good people. Rittenhouse is a bad person. Biden said so.
Got Stripers 11-13-2021, 05:57 PM You fu*ck heads can spin it any which way, let’s ask a question I know none of you will answer honestly. If he was your son and you go visit him in lockup are you telling him your damn proud of him or asking him what the fu*ck were you thinking? He shouldn’t have crossed state lines carrying illegally and DeBarrs fu*cked assumption he is there somehow to help the business owners is complete BS.
scottw 11-13-2021, 05:58 PM First I have to say this goes above and beyond the typical one line snarky post, but this is the only part I’d respond to. You ar3 the one who needs help with that fu*cked up perspective. So a teen carrying a weapon he couldn’t purchase and was illegally carrying goes across state lines to a two day running riot and he is there to not bother anyone, you clearly are wired directly into the far right news machine.
Yes. He still wasn’t bothering anyone and there is no evidence that he threatened anyone. Didn’t he encounter some police during the time he was there helping? You’d think if he was doing something illegal or threatening people with a weapon he’d have been arrested….
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Got Stripers 11-13-2021, 06:13 PM Yes. He still wasn’t bothering anyone and there is no evidence that he threatened anyone. Didn’t he encounter some police during the time he was there helping? You’d think if he was doing something illegal or threatening people with a weapon he’d have been arrested….
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I knew you couldn’t answer the question honestly.
scottw 11-13-2021, 06:21 PM I knew you couldn’t answer the question honestly.
What was the question?
You made a statement…
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detbuch 11-13-2021, 06:24 PM You fu*ck heads can spin it any which way, let’s ask a question I know none of you will answer honestly. If he was your son and you go visit him in lockup are you telling him your damn proud of him or asking him what the fu*ck were you thinking? He shouldn’t have crossed state lines carrying illegally and DeBarrs fu*cked assumption he is there somehow to help the business owners is complete BS.
I assume you were referring to me (DeBarr--I like the way you made a prefix out of De--kind of like a classy French name). You seem a bit unhinged here, so that might explaina why you claim I had a "fu*cked up assumption" that I never said.
Jim in CT 11-13-2021, 07:35 PM You fu*ck heads can spin it any which way, let’s ask a question I know none of you will answer honestly. If he was your son and you go visit him in lockup are you telling him your damn proud of him or asking him what the fu*ck were you thinking? He shouldn’t have crossed state lines carrying illegally and DeBarrs fu*cked assumption he is there somehow to help the business owners is complete BS.
you asked, i’ll answer. if he was my son, i’d want to strangle him
when i picked him up. i’d ask him how he could have been so unbelievably stupid and reckless.
unfortunately for you and the rest of your liberal ilk, even stupid and reckless people
have the right to self defense.
the guy who survived, pointed a gun at Rittenhouses head from a few feet away. how is that not obvious self defense?
violent riots are not a good idea. they increase the likelihood of violent confrontations.
you asked a question, i answered. did you answer my question about what property owners are supposed to do in that situation ? i am stunned they don’t open fire with belt fed machine guns in that situation. i’m supposed to to go on welfare because of a bunch of feral, sociopathic morons who are mad at something i had nothing to do with? and because the cops i am paying with my taxes, are being told by cowardly elected officials not to confront and put down the rioters?
Yeah we’re the f*ckheads here.
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Jim in CT 11-13-2021, 07:36 PM I knew you couldn’t answer the question honestly.
you didn’t answer mine.
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Got Stripers 11-13-2021, 07:47 PM you didn’t answer mine.
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Tell me which property Rittenhouse was protecting that he owned or had a vested interest in?
Jim in CT 11-13-2021, 07:52 PM Tell me which property Rittenhouse was protecting that he owned or had a vested interest in?
how many questions of yours must i answer, before you answer one of mine?
where does it say one can only protect property they own? where does it say one cannot help out someone else?
my god man. you’re saying it’s a character flaw to do something for someone else. jesus. how do you arrive at something that twisted?
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scottw 11-14-2021, 06:32 AM You fu*ck heads can spin it any which way,
DeBarrs fu*cked assumption he is there somehow to help the business owners is complete BS.
^^^^someone has issues.....
and, isn't it reported, and I think it was confirmed by politifact that the kid was actually thanked by police for being there and given water by them?
Pete F. 11-14-2021, 06:58 AM ^^^^someone has issues.....
and, isn't it reported, and I think it was confirmed by politifact that the kid was actually thanked by police for being there and given water by them?
It has been
How wonderful is that, a 17 year old kid illegally carrying a firearm and the cops don’t even question it.
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scottw 11-14-2021, 07:13 AM It has been
How wonderful is that, a 17 year old kid illegally carrying a firearm and the cops don’t even question it.
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he apparently wasn't threatening anyone :kewl:
scottw 11-14-2021, 07:18 AM unlike the peaceful protestor people burning the place down...
Pete F. 11-14-2021, 10:01 AM he apparently wasn't threatening anyone :kewl:
So, two wrongs now make a right
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scottw 11-14-2021, 10:33 AM So, two wrongs now make a right
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didn't say that...but carrying a gun doesn't negate your right to self defense
NOV 12
The judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial on Friday said he'll instruct the jury that unless the state proved the teen's AR-15-style rifle had an unlawfully short barrel, he can't be convicted of being a minor in possession of a firearm.
Jim in CT 11-14-2021, 11:53 AM didn't say that...but carrying a gun doesn't negate your right to self defense
NOV 12
The judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial on Friday said he'll instruct the jury that unless the state proved the teen's AR-15-style rifle had an unlawfully short barrel, he can't be convicted of being a minor in possession of a firearm.
i’ve been wondering about this, everyone in the left is saying his possession of that rifle was a crime, i have no idea what the lawns there. it just can’t be that they jumped to conclusions, can it?
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scottw 11-14-2021, 12:25 PM i’ve been wondering about this, everyone in the left is saying his possession of that rifle was a crime, i have no idea what the lawns there. it just can’t be that they jumped to conclusions, can it?
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They’ve been wrong about pretty much everything sooooo….
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Raider Ronnie 11-14-2021, 07:37 PM It has been
How wonderful is that, a 17 year old kid illegally carrying a firearm and the cops don’t even question it.
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Your liberal head is going to explode when this kid is exonerated then sues for defamation & is awarded 10 of millions !
Pete F. 11-14-2021, 08:35 PM Think about it. Rittenhouse was calm, cool and collected surrendering to police right after shooting people. He was laughing in court the other day. That’s why they had him testify - for his crying performance.
What do you think the chances are that young Kyle #^&#^&#^&#^&s up again in the future? 98% or 100%? Remember that #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& Zimmerman who shot Trayvon Martin got in several other gun incidents after the Trayvon stuff....Kyle Rittenhouse is the same kind of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&.
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detbuch 11-14-2021, 09:09 PM Think about it. Rittenhouse was calm, cool and collected surrendering to police right after shooting people. He was laughing in court the other day. That’s why they had him testify - for his crying performance.
What do you think the chances are that young Kyle #^&#^&#^&#^&s up again in the future? 98% or 100%? Remember that #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& Zimmerman who shot Trayvon Martin got in several other gun incidents after the Trayvon stuff....Kyle Rittenhouse is the same kind of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&.
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With that attitude, a competent lawyer could easily disqualify you during "voir dire" from being on the jury.
Jim in CT 11-14-2021, 09:54 PM Your liberal head is going to explode when this kid is exonerated then sues for defamation & is awarded 10 of millions !
for his libel suits, his lawyer is Lin Wood, who represented Richard Jewel and the Covington kid.
how will the liberal riots be, I wonder, if he’s not convicted?
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scottw 11-15-2021, 03:25 AM for his libel suits, his lawyer is Lin Wood, who represented Richard Jewel and the Covington kid.
how will the liberal riots be, I wonder, if he’s not convicted?
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there will be riots and the usual suspects here will justify them.....
Jim in CT 11-15-2021, 11:18 AM judge dismissed the weapons charge already. so much for that being a crime.
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scottw 11-15-2021, 12:11 PM judge dismissed the weapons charge already. so much for that being a crime.
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judge must be a white supremacist like the kid
Pete F. 11-15-2021, 12:48 PM Does Lin Wood still have a license?
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Raider Ronnie 11-15-2021, 01:54 PM there will be riots and the usual suspects here will justify them.....
The National Guard has been called in ahead of the verdict.
Where the #^&#^&#^&#^& were they during the riots ???
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Jim in CT 11-15-2021, 02:19 PM Harvard law professor alan dershowitz says rittenhouse should
be acquitted, then sue media for whatever scraps Nick Sandmann left behind.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/rittenhouse-should-be-acquitted-sue-media-for-deliberate-and-willful-lies-harvard-professor-says?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mattwalsh&fbclid=IwAR3b4n9_QeWqbMQdDAImtjobVmPeK9Y_hz9SlMs0s bLRIKbwSbfCJgs0K2w
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Pete F. 11-15-2021, 06:26 PM Harvard law professor alan dershowitz says rittenhouse should
be acquitted, then sue media for whatever scraps Nick Sandmann left behind.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/rittenhouse-should-be-acquitted-sue-media-for-deliberate-and-willful-lies-harvard-professor-says?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mattwalsh&fbclid=IwAR3b4n9_QeWqbMQdDAImtjobVmPeK9Y_hz9SlMs0s bLRIKbwSbfCJgs0K2w
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You do know that Alan keeps his underwear on when underage girls massage him🙈
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