ok, on many TV stations, and God knows how many blogs,, and even among a few of you here, I was told that Rittenhouse wasn’t legally allowed to be holding that rifle.

It’s all bullsh*t. Wisconsin law explicitly states that he was legally allowed to be in possession of that rifle, at that time, at that age. There was no crime.

No one bothered to read Wisconsin state law before they concluded he broke the law.

The left ( democrats and the media) need to somehow figure out that they are turning big numbers of people off, pushing them to the right.

Also, we found that Rittenhouses father lives in Kinosha. All this talk about how he had no reason to care about was happening there. No one knew that until the last couple of days. because it doesn’t fit The Narrative.

it’s so unbelievably dishonest and misleading.

Every single person in the media who said he committed a crime by possessing that rifle, was lying. Flat out lying. And America knows it. And we know why they did it.

Will any of them apologize for it?

ok, on many TV stations, and God knows how many blogs,, and even among a few of you here, I was told that Rittenhouse wasn’t legally allowed to be holding that rifle.

It’s all bullsh*t. Wisconsin law explicitly states that he was legally allowed to be in possession of that rifle, at that time, at that age. There was no crime.

No one bothered to read Wisconsin state law before they concluded he broke the law.
Mostly wrong.

Mostly wrong.

with all that evidence, who can argue with you.

the judge knows less about Wisconsin law than you?
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I might say, "Self defense is when they come to you, not when you come to them.", but perhaps that would be overly simplistic.
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I might say, "Self defense is when they come to you, not when you come to them.", but perhaps that would be overly simplistic.
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it would be overly stupid, if that’s what you meant.
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with all that evidence, who can argue with you.

the judge knows less about Wisconsin law than you?
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The judge said a poorly written law should favor the defense.

Jim, do you think a minor should be able to open carry a high velocity weapon in any state?

it would be overly stupid, if that’s what you meant.
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Stupid, because as his lawyer said “Other people in this community have shot somebody seven times and it’s been found to be ok. My client did it four times…”
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The judge said a poorly written law should favor the defense.

Jim, do you think a minor should be able to open carry a high velocity weapon in any state?

the law says a 17 year old can have that rifle as long as it’s barrel was beyond a minimum length. his was.

no, for the 20th time i think what rittenhouse did was one of the dumber and more reckless things i’ve heard of. but it’s not against the law to be dumb and reckless.

he. didn’t. break. that. law.

i think it was dumb if him to be there with that rifle. dumb. but not illegal.

the way this was spun in the media, is unbelievable. now that the truth is seeing the light of the day, it’s one more thing to hold against the left.

are they trying to lose?
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Next they’ll be arguing against the prosecution of Franklin Sechriest, because you know how those people are
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the law says a 17 year old can have that rifle as long as it’s barrel was beyond a minimum length. his was.
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Read the law, that’s not what it says. The judge is trying to get this kid off with nothing. I don’t think he should be in jail for life but he needs to own up to his incredibly reckless behavior.

Read the law, that’s not what it says. The judge is trying to get this kid off with nothing. I don’t think he should be in jail for life but he needs to own up to his incredibly reckless behavior.

post the law then spence, or give it a rest. i’m going by the judge. the judge got the prosecutor team to concede that the rifle was long enough such that it was legal. the prosecutor stated that.

we don’t put people in prison for doing things you don’t happen to like, unless he breaks a law. i don’t see a broken law.

the media lies help the right. an acquittal helps the riot. subsequent rioting will help the right.
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should be able to open carry a high velocity weapon



good grief....

Read the law, that’s not what it says. The judge is trying to get this kid off with nothing. I don’t think he should be in jail for life but he needs to own up to his incredibly reckless behavior.

I knew it had to be a bad judge...couldn't possibly have anything to do with the facts of the case or the law

the media lies

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yet another narrative created and pushed by the left and media for political proposes falls apart....I wonder if we can get a vaccine to protect us from these people?

not a right wing loon....https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/when-all-the-media-narratives-collapse-650

When All The Media Narratives Collapse
In case after case, the US MSM just keeps getting it wrong.
Andrew Sullivan NOV 12


Trump was right, in the end, about the dodgy dossier; he was right about the duped FBI’s original overreach; and the mass media — Rachel Maddow chief among them — were wrong. And yet the dossier dominated the headlines for three years, and the “corrections” have a fraction of the audience of the errors. Maddow gets promoted. And the man who first published it, Ben Smith, was made the media columnist for the NYT.

Think of the other narratives the MSM pushed in recent years that have collapsed. They viciously defamed the Covington boys. They authoritatively told us that bounties had been placed on US soldiers in Afghanistan by Putin — and Trump’s denials only made them more certain. They told us that the lab-leak theory of Covid was a conspiracy theory with no evidence behind it at all. (The NYT actually had the story of the leak theory, by Donald McNeil, killed it, and then fired McNeil, their best Covid reporter, after some schoolgirls complained he wasn’t woke.) Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

The MSM took the ludicrous story of Jussie Smollett seriously because it fit their nutty “white supremacy” narrative. They told us that a woman was brutally gang-raped at UVA (invented), that the Pulse mass shooting was driven by homophobia (untrue) and that the Atlanta spa shooter was motivated by anti-Asian bias (no known evidence for that at all). For good measure, they followed up with story after story about white supremacists targeting Asian-Americans, in a new wave of “hate,” even as the assaults were disproportionately by African Americans and the mentally ill.

As Greenwald noted, the NYT “published an emotionally gut-wrenching but complete fiction that never had any evidence — that Officer Sicknick’s skull was savagely bashed in with a fire extinguisher by a pro-Trump mob until he died.” The media told us that an alleged transgender exposure in the Wi Spa in Los Angeles was an anti-trans hoax (also untrue). They told us that the emails recovered on Hunter Biden’s laptop were Russian disinformation. They did this just before an election and used that claim to stymie the story on social media. But they were not Russian disinformation. They were a valid if minor news story the media consciously kept from its audience for partisan purposes.

More recently, the MSM were telling us for months that inflation is a phantasm. We were told that the “2021 Inflation Scare is another in a series of false alarms going back several decades.” We were assured that “the numbers at least for now are on the side of those expecting the trend to subside and then stabilize at lower levels.” Any concern was “fearmongering politics.” And now we wake up to the highest inflation in 30 years, counter-balancing wage increases. Still, they tell us, all will be well.

We were told that vaccines would end the Covid pandemic. But they merely altered Covid to a manageable disease that you could still contract while vaccinated. We were told that the migrant surge at the border was just seasonal, and nothing out of the ordinary, even as 1.7 million migrants were illegally trying to get into the country in the last year. We were told that sending migrants back to their home countries was a wicked and unconscionable Trump tactic — even as the Biden administration swiftly copied it with Haitian immigrants — to much success. The cruelty is the point, eh?

We were — and still are! — being told by most of the media that critical race theory isn’t in high schools at all. Meanwhile, a tsunami of evidence is out there showing that it absolutely is — in every subject, and every class, as the central philosophy behind many states’ education policies.

We all get things wrong. What makes this more worrying is simply that all these false narratives just happen to favor the interests of the left and the Democratic party.

we don’t put people in prison for doing things you don’t happen to like, unless he breaks a law. i don’t see a broken law.
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Spence is wrong, yet again. I must say, at least he's consistent. Here arethe laws on the books if anyone would care to peruse them

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/948/55

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/941/iii/28

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/29/iv/304

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/29/viii/593

"poorly worded law" :rotflmao:

Spence is wrong, yet again. I must say, at least he's consistent. Here arethe laws on the books if anyone would care to peruse them

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/948/55

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/941/iii/28

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/29/iv/304

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/29/viii/593

"poorly worded law" :rotflmao:

in which “poorly worded” means, Spence doesn’t like it.

it doesn’t matter if he likes it, the people of Wisconsin like it.

his best comeback is “well do you think a 17 year old kid should be acting like a Texas Ranger with an AR-15…”

The wisdom of what Rittenhouse did could not matter less in court. All that matters is the legality of what he did.

17 year-old boys typically aren’t in possession of a lot of wisdom. They can’t be, because wisdom is a function of experience.

His mother on the other hand, god almighty lady what were you thinking.

all the lefties here were fooled by the press. the press beat the drum endlessly that he possessed that gin illegally. i heard that 500 times since this began.

the press said he was a white supremacist. i assumed
he shot black people.

the press made it seem like he had no reason to want to protect Kenosha. I learned yesterday that his father lives there, it’s like his second home.

To the lefties here, would you like it if the press all got together to do this to your child?

Trump caught tons of heat for saying the press is the enemy of the people. Well, they were the enemy of the duke lacrosse team, of Darren Wilson, of Nick Samdman, and of Rittenhouse, for sure. The media lied about these people to push a political narrative. That’s a demonstrable pattern. That doesn’t bother the lefties here?

The press absolutely is the enemy of anyone that stands between them and promoting The Narrative.

The media lied, making it more likely these people would be vilified and sent to prison, to serve a political
narrative. That doesn’t bother you guys?

How many times do they get to be this wrong, before they start to lose credibility with you guys? Is there any limit?
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The judge removed the charge possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18.

The charge is only a misdemeanor.. this doesn’t change the fact he shot 3 people 1 clearly unarmed who the kid of course claiming he said he was going to kill him , who can’t dispute it he’s dead ..

the other Armed man he shot who only exposed his weapon after The kid had already shot someone 4 times . Is conveniently denied his right to self defense ?

It’s just sad to see conservatives using this child as a proxy in their culture war

the ultimate, cheap, expendable, yet sophisticated human weapon.” They have no real sense of fear and, when indoctrinated

I watch a limited amount of the coverage the kid has no remorse beyond the 1st breakdown
But i did notice he would yawn without covering his mouth.. it showed to me how immature he is .

even the NY post covered it but gave no insight beyond that https://nypost.com/2021/11/02/kyle-rittenhouse-repeatedly-yawns-during-homicide-trial/
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in which “poorly worded” means, Spence doesn’t like it.

it doesn’t matter if he likes it, the people of Wisconsin like it.

his best comeback is “well do you think a 17 year old kid should be acting like a Texas Ranger with an AR-15…”

The wisdom of what Rittenhouse did could not matter less in court. All that matters is the legality of what he did.

17 year-old boys typically aren’t in possession of a lot of wisdom. They can’t be, because wisdom is a function of experience.

His mother on the other hand, god almighty lady what were you thinking.

all the lefties here were fooled by the press. the press beat the drum endlessly that he possessed that gin illegally. i heard that 500 times since this began.

the press said he was a white supremacist. i assumed
he shot black people.

the press made it seem like he had no reason to want to protect Kenosha. I learned yesterday that his father lives there, it’s like his second home.

To the lefties here, would you like it if the press all got together to do this to your child?

Trump caught tons of heat for saying the press is the enemy of the people. Well, they were the enemy of the duke lacrosse team, of Darren Wilson, of Nick Samdman, and of Rittenhouse, for sure. The media lied about these people to push a political narrative. That’s a demonstrable pattern. That doesn’t bother the lefties here?

The press absolutely is the enemy of anyone that stands between them and promoting The Narrative.

The media lied, making it more likely these people would be vilified and sent to prison, to serve a political
narrative. That doesn’t bother you guys?

How many times do they get to be this wrong, before they start to lose credibility with you guys? Is there any limit?
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This kid is Jim’s hero it’s amazing to watch . Still more outrage over the press coverage of this kid

Then Trump still claiming he won or that he tried to overthrow an election

You have some f up priorities
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This kid is Jim’s hero it’s amazing to watch

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you obviously have not read anything Jim has written on the subject...that is what is amazing

I watch a limited amount of the coverage

But i did notice he would yawn without covering his mouth.. it showed to me how immature he is .



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brilliant.....

The judge removed the charge possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18.

The charge is only a misdemeanor.. this doesn’t change the fact he shot 3 people 1 clearly unarmed who the kid of course claiming he said he was going to kill him , who can’t dispute it he’s dead ..

the other Armed man he shot who only exposed his weapon after The kid had already shot someone 4 times . Is conveniently denied his right to self defense ?

It’s just sad to see conservatives using this child as a proxy in their culture war

the ultimate, cheap, expendable, yet sophisticated human weapon.” They have no real sense of fear and, when indoctrinated

I watch a limited amount of the coverage the kid has no remorse beyond the 1st breakdown
But i did notice he would yawn without covering his mouth.. it showed to me how immature he is .

even the NY post covered it but gave no insight beyond that https://nypost.com/2021/11/02/kyle-rittenhouse-repeatedly-yawns-during-homicide-trial/
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who was clearly unarmed?

one had a gun.

one was trying to wrestle Rittenhouses gun away from him, after screaming that he was going to kill rittenhouse.

the other was hitting him in the head with a skateboard
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you obviously have not read anything Jim has written on the subject...that is what is amazing

is really like to know, is he aware of what i said and he’s ignoring it to make it easier for him to respond? or has he actually never seen me say Rittenhouse was an idiot?

it’s an interesting question. Well never know the answer.

it is amazing.

still trying to comprehend the holiday inn express comment.
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This kid is Jim’s hero it’s amazing to watch . Still more outrage over the press coverage of this kid

Then Trump still claiming he won or that he tried to overthrow an election

You have some f up priorities
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Rittenhouse was stupid and reckless to go there with a gun.

trump lost the election. there’s zero evidence it was stolen.

You have some f’d up comprehension skills.

seriously, are those sentences going too fast for you? are they not clear? maybe my “holiday inn express” vernacular just doesn’t compute between your ears.

honest to god, how can you not get what my views are? those words are too big for you?

you’re either a moron, or a liar. those are literally your only two choices, there is no third possibility. moron or liar.
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the other Armed man he shot who only exposed his weapon after The kid had already shot someone 4 times . Is conveniently denied his right to self defense ?

https://nypost.com/2021/11/02/kyle-rittenhouse-repeatedly-yawns-during-homicide-trial/
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Rittenhouse didn’t point his gun at that guy, until after that guy pointed his gun at rittenhouse. rittenhouse wasn’t threatening that guy when that guy pointed his gun at rittenhouse. video showed this, the guy admitted on the stand that rittenhouse didn’t point his gun at him, until after he pointed his gun at rittenhouse.

it’s a really bad idea to let riots go without putting them down, especially if governors ignore the riots because they don’t want to be seen as hostile to the BLM/Antifa cause. these things happen when violent riots are allowed to continue.
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the guy admitted on the stand that rittenhouse didn’t point his gun at him, until after he pointed his gun at rittenhouse.

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this does not matter to wayne...he has all of the "facts"

Rittenhouse didn’t point his gun at that guy, until after that guy pointed his gun at rittenhouse. rittenhouse wasn’t threatening that guy when that guy pointed his gun at rittenhouse. video showed this, the guy admitted on the stand that rittenhouse didn’t point his gun at him, until after he pointed his gun at rittenhouse.

it’s a really bad idea to let riots go without putting them down, especially if governors ignore the riots because they don’t want to be seen as hostile to the BLM/Antifa cause. these things happen when violent riots are allowed to continue.
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Prosecutor should be brought up on charges and loose his license to practice law !
Judge should have thrown out the whole case when the witness admitted under oath he pointed his gun 1st and the prosecutor tried to get him to change his prior statement.
There will be riots no doubt but there’s not much left to burn during the “peaceful protest”
The only way the jury convicts is if BLM did their job scaring the #^&#^&#^&#^& out of them with their threats to burn their homes and kill their kids !
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Don’t worry, Rittenhouse will be the keynote speaker at the next CPAC
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Don’t worry, Rittenhouse will be the keynote speaker at the next CPAC
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if there’s value in putting a face on the issue of media dishonesty, who better?

it’s as if the left, the media, and big tech are all hypnotized by trump. even after what just happened in VA and what polling looks like, you can’t change course.

you’re all doing exactly what trump would want you to do. kudos.
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the law says a 17 year old can have that rifle as long as it’s barrel was beyond a minimum length. his was.

no, for the 20th time i think what rittenhouse did was one of the dumber and more reckless things i’ve heard of. but it’s not against the law to be dumb and reckless.

he. didn’t. break. that. law.

i think it was dumb if him to be there with that rifle. dumb. but not illegal.
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The judge didn’t find that the possession was legal. The defense found a contradictory statute buried in the books and successfully argued the charge should be dropped. The prosecution should have been prepared to appeal but they were not and the judge made the call literally minutes before closing arguments were set to begin. The law wasn’t clear and that usually favors the defense.

The judge didn’t find that the possession was legal. The defense found a contradictory statute buried in the books and successfully argued the charge should be dropped. The prosecution should have been prepared to appeal but they were not and the judge made the call literally minutes before closing arguments were set to begin. The law wasn’t clear and that usually favors the defense.

the judge asked if the barrel was above the minimum required to be legal. prosecutor said yes. judge dismissed the count.

the law was clear to those who aren’t hellbent in dissecting the law to find a way to say Rittenhouse broke it.
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The judge didn’t find that the possession was legal. The defense found a contradictory statute buried in the books and successfully argued the charge should be dropped. The prosecution should have been prepared to appeal but they were not and the judge made the call literally minutes before closing arguments were set to begin. The law wasn’t clear and that usually favors the defense.

this sounds like whining....

you obviously have not read anything Jim has written on the subject...that is what is amazing

Oh I have.. and he has completely ignored all the evidence presented

According to Jim the kid is not responsible for his actions nothing he’s just a poor victim. And did nothing wrong..

Who should be seen as a law enforcement officer who has experience and trained in these situations

And was justified because he thought he was going to be killed or he thought they were going to take his gun and use it on Him .. Bla bla bla

Like I’ve said you start a fight and start losing . You cannot decide to suddenly claim self defense

The kid thought the Ar 15 gave him the power of intimidation. Why else would a 17 year we walking around solo in that environment

Being Immature didn’t help.

And I am not saying this kid went with a plan to shoot 3 people

but he went with the mindset he was willing to use his weapon and show those s people what’s what ..

It had nothing to do with with his desire to carry out some civic duty

As some have suggested
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Oh I have.. and he has completely ignored all the evidence presented

According to Jim the kid is not responsible for his actions nothing he’s just a poor victim. And did nothing wrong..

Who should be seen as a law enforcement officer who has experience and trained in these situations

And was justified because he thought he was going to be killed or he thought they were going to take his gun and use it on Him .. Bla bla bla

Like I’ve said you start a fight and start losing . You cannot decide to suddenly claim self defense

The kid thought the Ar 15 gave him the power of intimidation. Why else would a 17 year we walking around solo in that environment

Being Immature didn’t help.

And I am not saying this kid went with a plan to shoot 3 people

but he went with the mindset he was willing to use his weapon and show those s people what’s what ..

It had nothing to do with with his desire to carry out some civic duty

As some have suggested
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again, you’re either very stupid or very much a liar.

he’s responsible for his actions. but he doesn’t get convicted, unless he broke the law. that’s how it works.

“nothing to do with his desire to carry out some civic duty.”

must be nice being a mind reader. we are all shocked that your wild speculation here, supports the liberal narrative.
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the law was clear to those who aren’t hellbent in dissecting the law to find a way to say Rittenhouse broke it.
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Even the judge said the law isn't clear.

again.................

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it's pretty remarkable...do you think he turns on the cold tap and yells that he's not getting any hot water?

Oh I have.. and he has completely ignored all the evidence presented

Jim has not ignored the evidence presented in the trial. Your opinions are not evidence.

According to Jim the kid is not responsible for his actions nothing he’s just a poor victim. And did nothing wrong..

Jim will probably correct your misrepresentation or lie or willful blindness or whatever it is, but, unless I'm as blind as you, I have not seen Jim say any of that.

Who should be seen as a law enforcement officer who has experience and trained in these situations

??

And was justified because he thought he was going to be killed or he thought they were going to take his gun and use it on Him .. Bla bla bla

The evidence presented in the trial backs up what he thought. Unlike your repeated bla bla bla opinionated comments.

Like I’ve said you start a fight and start losing . You cannot decide to suddenly claim self defense

What fight did he start? Is this more of your bla bla blaisms?

The kid thought the Ar 15 gave him the power of intimidation. Why else would a 17 year we walking around solo in that environment

Of course, there is no way, according to you, that he could have considered it was a means of protecting himself in a riotous situation. It could only mean, in your "why else" frame of opinionated bla blaismatic way of thinking that he wanted to walk around solo to intimidate.

Being Immature didn’t help.

True, but not a crime.

And I am not saying this kid went with a plan to shoot 3 people

That's a relief.

but he went with the mindset he was willing to use his weapon and show those s people what’s what ..

In the vast majority of times people carry a weapon they have a mindset of willingness to use it. That's what it's for.
Such a mindset is normal, not criminal.

It had nothing to do with with his desire to carry out some civic duty

As some have suggested
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Given you lack of credibility in your reliance on your opinion rather than on facts, evidence, and law, your conjecture/accusation on what his desire was carries no significant weight--that is, it is just more bla bla bla.

it's pretty remarkable...do you think he turns on the cold tap and yells that he's not getting any hot water?

no, that’s what happens at the Holiday Imm Express, so we are the ones who yell that.

if you EVER derive any clue what he was getting at there, let me know.
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no, that’s what happens at the Holiday Imm Express, so we are the ones who yell that.

if you EVER derive any clue what he was getting at there, let me know.
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It's a reference to an old marketing campaign by Holiday Inn Express

"I didn't know you were a surgeon"
"I'm not, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night."

it was his attempt at Humor and Sarcasm but it fell flat because the delivery was terrible, he really should stick to his nonsensical ramblings and let the professionals handle the Sarcasm

It's a reference to an old marketing campaign by Holiday Inn Express

"I didn't know you were a surgeon"
"I'm not, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night."

it was his attempt at Humor and Sarcasm but it fell flat because the delivery was terrible, he really should stick to his nonsensical ramblings and let the professionals handle the Sarcasm

wow!!!
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Now that driving to another state to shoot people has basically been legalized I feel as though the opportunities are just endless.
Except you can’t drive to HI. 49 ain’t bad, thou.
Just gives everyone a whole new way to look at road hunting.
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Now that driving to another state to shoot people has basically been legalized I feel as though the opportunities are just endless.
Except you can’t drive to HI. 49 ain’t bad, thou.
Just gives everyone a whole new way to look at road hunting.
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that’s right, einstein, he was just indiscriminately shooting at everyone he saw. especially the blacks.
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I'm thinking any woman seeking an abortion as she flees Texas is well-advised to grab a gun and let her reflexes rule. You know how easily a person of delicate sensibilities can feel threatened.
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I'm thinking any woman seeking an abortion as she flees Texas is well-advised to grab a gun and let her reflexes rule. You know how easily a person of delicate sensibilities can feel threatened.
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i’m surprised anyone here has you un- blocked.
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wow!!!
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I'll bet you don't remember Joe Isuzu either :eek5:

I'll bet you don't remember Joe Isuzu either :eek5:

not really.
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According to the right - Ashli Babbitt should not have been killed as a rioter while breaking into the Speakers' Lobby at the Capitol

Yet, Kyle Rittenhouse is hailed as a hero for killing rioters

Question: If Rittenhouse were at the Capitol on 1/6, would he have shot Babbitt?
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According to the right - Ashli Babbitt should not have been killed as a rioter while breaking into the Speakers' Lobby at the Capitol

Yet, Kyle Rittenhouse is hailed as a hero for killing rioters

Question: If Rittenhouse were at the Capitol on 1/6, would he have shot Babbitt?
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If Babbitt chased you, and while you were down, she lifted a gun and pointed it at your head, would you shoot her?

According to the right - Ashli Babbitt should not have been killed as a rioter while breaking into the Speakers' Lobby at the Capitol

Yet, Kyle Rittenhouse is hailed as a hero for killing rioters

Question: If Rittenhouse were at the Capitol on 1/6, would he have shot Babbitt?
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"Ashli Babbitt should not have been killed as a rioter while breaking into the Speakers' Lobby at the Capitol"

Whose life did Ashley Babbitt put in imminent danger?

"Kyle Rittenhouse is hailed as a hero for killing rioters "

Who said this?

Loosen the straps on the tin foil hat, buddy.

If Babbitt chased you, and while you were down, she lifted a gun and pointed it at your head, would you shoot her?

If I saw an active shooter who had killed two people and I was armed and he was in front of me I would have shot Kyle.
That guy who had the guns mistake was he failed to pull the trigger.
It would have been self defense, the kid had already killed two other people.
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If I saw an active shooter who had killed two people and I was armed and he was in front of me I would have shot Kyle.
That guy who had the guns mistake was he failed to pull the trigger.
It would have been self defense, the kid had already killed two other people.
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I don’t think killing comes natural to most people. Had he shot Rittenhouse he would likely have been heralded as a hero for stopping suck a reckless teenager. So sad all around.

"Ashli Babbitt should not have been killed as a rioter while breaking into the Speakers' Lobby at the Capitol"

Whose life did Ashley Babbitt put in imminent danger?

"Kyle Rittenhouse is hailed as a hero for killing rioters "

Who said this?

Loosen the straps on the tin foil hat, buddy.

So in that case, the officer of the law should have assumed that the perp was unarmed.
But in Kyle’s case the unarmed guys who were “scaring” him were unarmed and he shot two of them.
Who’s got a tinfoil hat on?
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I don’t think killing comes natural to most people. Had he shot Rittenhouse he would likely have been heralded as a hero for stopping suck a reckless teenager. So sad all around.
I don’t think it does either, but if you put yourself into a situation that is quite possibly violent and bring a weapon, it’s not because you’re there to give people first aid.
But he had Bandaids
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If I saw an active shooter who had killed two people and I was armed and he was in front of me I would have shot Kyle.
That guy who had the guns mistake was he failed to pull the trigger.
It would have been self defense, the kid had already killed two other people.
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So, without knowing why he was being chased, nor why he defended himself from the attackers, you would have shot him? Judge, jury, and executioner? From the prejudicial, biased, and often hateful comments you make, that's not surprising.

And, given all the facts revealed in this trial, you think you would have been exonerated as acting in self defense?

If I saw an active shooter who had killed two people and I was armed and he was in front of me I would have shot Kyle.
That guy who had the guns mistake was he failed to pull the trigger.
It would have been self defense, the kid had already killed two other people.
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sure you would Pete. sure you would.

what you described is retaliation, not self defense. not unless you had a reason to believe you were next.
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So, without knowing why he was being chased, nor why he defended himself from the attackers, you would have shot him? Judge, jury, and executioner? From the prejudicial, biased, and often hateful comments you make, that's not surprising.
Why else would you bring a gun?
To administer first aid?
Isn’t a gun the NRA way?
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I don’t think killing comes natural to most people. Had he shot Rittenhouse he would likely have been heralded as a hero for stopping suck a reckless teenager. So sad all around.

very sad all around. 100% correct.

and a textbook example of why it’s a horrible idea for local government ( and the feds) to allow these riots to continue until rioters run out of Molatov cocktails. When a governor decides that being seen as sympathetic to BLM is more important than keeping peace, he’s asking for this to happen.
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sure you would Pete. sure you would.

what you described is retaliation, not self defense. not unless you had a reason to believe you were next.
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Just saving the next victim.
Kyle will likely try to kill again
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Just saving the next victim.
Kyle will likely try to kill again
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no such thing as pre-emptive self defense. the threat to you
must be imminent.

sorry if that’s going too fast for you.
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Why else would you bring a gun?
To administer first aid?
Isn’t a gun the NRA way?
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So if you would have shot him, why did you bring the gun? You claimed that shooting him would be self defense. Did you bring the gun to defend yourself?

no such thing as pre-emptive self defense. the threat to you
must be imminent.

sorry if that’s going too fast for you.
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So you can only kill someone in self defense if you’re already dead?
Kyle didn’t even have someone in front of him with a gun.
Someone in front of you with a gun that’s already killed two people is an imminent threat.
Sorry if that’s going too fast for you.
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So if you would have shot him, why did you bring the gun? You claimed that shooting him would be self defense. Did you bring the gun to defend yourself?

As I understand it, I have the right to arm myself and that is an unalienable right.
Do you think that is bad?
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As I understand it, I have the right to arm myself and that is an inalienable right.
Do you think that is bad?
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I think Rittenhouse would agree with you. And would believe he has the same right.

I think Rittenhouse would agree with you. And would believe he has the same right.

That’s what you think his answer would be, what’s yours?
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That’s what you think his answer would be, what’s yours?
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The evidence presented in the trial, in my opinion, validates his claim of self-defense.

That’s what you think his answer would be, what’s yours?
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Let me guess.
Someone attacks you & threaten your life will fight back with kindness
And if that doesn’t work you will fight back with your Dildo or your Bong.

Let me guess.
Someone attacks you & threaten your life will fight back with kindness
And if that doesn’t work you will fight back with your Dildo or your Bong.

Ah well, as they say FAFO
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This should cause a few to loose sleep tonight :cheers2:

It's a reference to an old marketing campaign by Holiday Inn Express

"I didn't know you were a surgeon"
"I'm not, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night."

it was his attempt at Humor and Sarcasm but it fell flat because the delivery was terrible, he really should stick to his nonsensical ramblings and let the professionals handle the Sarcasm

No it fell flat because those 2 are disconnected with anything current or mainstream … and the inability to do a 1second google search LOL
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No it fell flat because those 2 are disconnected with anything current or mainstream … and the inability to do a 1second google search LOL
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i’m proud to be disconnected from most of what’s current and mainstream. You can keep most of what you’d call current and mainstream.

You ended with LOL, that was a great zinger there at the end.

As for “current”, I just googled it, when was the last time those commercials ran?

Finally wayne, we assume that reference was your attempt to poke fun at us for weighing in in things outside our lane. Isn’t that pretty much what we, including you, do all the time here?

unless the listings about keeping prisoners in line, or about the math behind insurance, you and i are both posting about things that we aren’t professional
experts at.

in your case, you do it with astonishing thoughtlessness. Every single person here, knows exactly what you’re going to say before you say it, on every single issue. Every single time, no exceptions, not once, not ever. The liberal is always right, and when you know you can’t respond to what was said, respond
to something no one said.
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"Ashli Babbitt should not have been killed as a rioter while breaking into the Speakers' Lobby at the Capitol"

Whose life did Ashley Babbitt put in imminent danger?

"Kyle Rittenhouse is hailed as a hero for killing rioters "

Who said this?

Loosen the straps on the tin foil hat, buddy.

Whose life did Ashley Babbitt put in imminent danger?

Jim you can’t have if it both ways upset when one of your MAGA hero’s is shot

By a trained police officer who felt the threat was reasonable

But demand it reasonable that a child shoots a man 4 times who threw a empty trash bag at him ? Who injected himself into the chaos

We’re the people who chased down the jogger justified when he grab their gun . To claim self defense ..?

This Wild West mentality of conservatives seems only acceptable if the shooter support their ideas .. Kyle is just what Trump and his followers wanted to mobilize in Kenosha and in Portland..and across the United States all they got was a child until they lost the election then the rest decided to make an appearance

I have no dog in this fight the jury will decide .. and that’s that

I may agree or disagree with the verdict. But that’s how our system of justice works..

And I expect to see the usual comments from both sides blaming something or someone when they decide
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i’m proud to be disconnected from most of what’s current and mainstream. You can keep most of what you’d call current and mainstream.


As I’ve said you’ve been radicalized by the the honey poured in your ear from you sources and inbox .. far from the free thinker you attempt to present yourself as.. you spew the most Hate on this site … you get upset because your endless posts get push back .. and that upsetting you think every response is just about you your myopic unable to see the larger conversations going on in the nation …. I acknowledge I never been able to convey my thoughts on papers I suck at it.. However I don’t try to see the world as I wish it was.. I see the world as it .. because I’ve actually seen the the world to include the good bad and the ugly . And that’s served me better than a A in creative writing
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As I’ve said you’ve been radicalized by the the honey poured in your ear from you sources and inbox .. far from the free thinker you attempt to present yourself as.. you spew the most Hate on this site … you get upset because your endless posts get push back .. and that upsetting you think every response is just about you your myopic unable to see the larger conversations going on in the nation …. I acknowledge I never been able to convey my thoughts on papers I suck at it.. However I don’t try to see the world as I wish it was.. I see the world as it .. because I’ve actually seen the the world to include the good bad and the ugly . And that’s served me better than a A in creative writing
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"As I’ve said you’ve been radicalized"

Right, the one who can praise and criticize both sides is the radical, not the one who refuses to ever concede the other side can ever have a good point on anything.

"you spew the most Hate on this site"

Nonsense, I respond to vileness after someone else engages in it.

"you get upset because your endless posts get push back"

Nonsense, I respond when you claim I said something I never came close to saying. You and Pete do it every day.

"I see the world as it is"

Seriously? You keep saying that Rittenhouse is my hero, and that I condone everything he did. "See the world as it is"? Wayne, you can't get through a single thread without completely lying about what it is that conservatives say.

You said maybe a month ago that Republicans are incapable of doing anything for other Americans. I believe that you sincerely believe that. And it's stupid, it's demonstrably false. The data show that there is very little difference in generosity between conservatives and liberals, and to the extent there is a difference, it suggests conservatives are more charitable, even though they have lower average incomes.

You see the world as CNN tells you it is. That's a far, far cry from seeing the world as it is.

We'd get along great if you could just respond to what I actually say, rather than accusing me of being a Trumplican who thinks Rittenhouse is a hero and all the other nonsensical craziness you claim that I say.

Sincerely, have a great day. Beautiful day today. Taking my golden for a long walk.

i’m proud to be disconnected

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:o

As I’ve said you’ve been radicalized by the the honey poured in your ear from you sources and inbox .. far from the free thinker you attempt to present yourself as..


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have you looked in the mirror?

i’m proud to be disconnected from most of what’s current and mainstream. You can keep most of what you’d call current and mainstream.


As I’ve said you’ve been radicalized by the the honey poured in your ear from you sources and inbox .. far from the free thinker you attempt to present yourself as.. you spew the most Hate on this site … you get upset because your endless posts get push back .. and that upsetting you think every response is just about you your myopic unable to see the larger conversations going on in the nation …. I acknowledge I never been able to convey my thoughts on papers I suck at it.. However I don’t try to see the world as I wish it was.. I see the world as it .. because I’ve actually seen the the world to include the good bad and the ugly . And that’s served me better than a A in creative writing
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Glad to see you’ve abandoned the sarcasm and went back to your nonsensical ramblings.

You do you, know your limitations
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Funny how the fake media makes up lies like the kid crossed state lines with the gun & should never have been in Kenosha.
Turns out his father lives there, the kid is there all the time as well as where his mother lives.
The gun was also stored at his fathers house.
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Matt Gaetz wants to hire Kyle Rittenhouse as a congressional intern.
I'm pretty sure that Matt Gaetz is looking for a wingman to find teenage girls, not an intern.
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Matt Gaetz wants to hire Kyle Rittenhouse as a congressional intern.
I'm pretty sure that Matt Gaetz is looking for a wingman to find teenage girls, not an intern.
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Not that it matters much to me, but I hope you're not as nasty outside this forum as you are in it.

Matt Gaetz wants to hire Kyle Rittenhouse as a congressional intern.
He’s got competition with his douchebag in crime Gosar.

It’s pretty sickening, kid obtains a firearm illegally, uses it in display of mind-bending reckless manner, kills people and they want to celebrate him as a hero. Just because he was acquitted of federal charges doesn’t mean he’s not a lessen for what wrong looks like.

Looks like civil charges are likely.

He’s got competition with his douchebag in crime Gosar.

It’s pretty sickening, kid obtains a firearm illegally, uses it in display of mind-bending reckless manner, kills people and they want to celebrate him as a hero. Just because he was acquitted of federal charges doesn’t mean he’s not a lessen for what wrong looks like.

Looks like civil charges are likely.

you talking about rittenhouse? that’s so off, it’s hard to tell? what federal charges? what laws were broken to obtain the firearm?

he’s no hero. but he is a victim of your sides deranged slander cartel, and he’s going to be win a ton in defamation suits. but you say no, and obviously you know
more than alan dershowitz on the subject of tort law. you’re never stupidly wrong

if you’re not talking about rittenhouse, and again your points were so wrong on the rittenhouse facts you may not have been, i apologize

if you were talking about rittenhouse TDF was correct to ask if you are the dictionary definition of wrong.
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you talking about rittenhouse? that’s so off, it’s hard to tell? what federal charges? what laws were broken to obtain the firearm?
Meant felony charges. His firearm was purchased through a straw man because he wasn’t old enough at the time. I believe that trial begins soon and his buddy may be in deep do do.

Meant felony charges. His firearm was purchased through a straw man because he wasn’t old enough at the time. I believe that trial begins soon and his buddy may be in deep do do.

Grabbing at straws
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Just because he was acquitted of federal charges doesn’t mean he’s not a lessen for what wrong looks like.




Your posts are what wrong looks like
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Your posts are what wrong looks like
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rittenhouse is going to have to build a bank to put the proceeds from his libel suits. they wanted to win a presidential
we too. so badly, they were going to smear this kid to the point where it jeopardizes his entire life. and they’re going to answer for it this time.
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rittenhouse is going to have to build a bank to put the proceeds from his libel suits. they wanted to win a presidential
we too. so badly, they were going to smear this kid to the point where it jeopardizes his entire life. and they’re going to answer for it this time.
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Who is he going to sue for libel???

Who is he going to sue for libel???

everyone who called him a white supremacist, everyone who said he illegally transported a rifle across state lines, anyone who spewed lies that were knowable as lies. that’s the standard. it’s not a good situation for
msnbc and cnn to be in.

i’m sure you doubted Sandmann would get anything. because to you, liberals cannot be wrong. what they did to this kid was way way way worse. they tried to deny him a life, so that they could beat trump. f-ck them.

republicans have had enough. lawyers will be lined up
to represent him for fee in the suits that are coming.
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everyone who called him a white supremacist, everyone who said he illegally transported a rifle across state lines, anyone who spewed lies that were knowable as lies. that’s the standard. it’s not a good situation for
msnbc and cnn to be in.
He’s going to get nothing aside from maybe a civil conviction on lesser charges.

He’s going to get nothing aside from maybe a civil conviction on lesser charges.

your instinct is to deny that your side did anything wrong. despite experts saying he’s got great claims.

you know more about everything, then everyone. and every single opinion is the same. liberal=good.

i took a screen shot if you saying he’s not going to get
anything. when he buys his own pacific archipelago, i’ll repost it for you.

your side shot themselves in the foot here. we all saw the way this was spun, and then we all
saw the facts at trial . and we all
saw the reaction yesterday.

it was sick stuff. but it gives you that tingle you crave.
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there they go throwing urine again...nice people

(CNN)Protests broke out around the country Friday after a jury in Kenosha, Wisconsin, found Kyle Rittenhouse not guilty in the shooting deaths of two people during protests there last year.

In New York, demonstrators shut down the Brooklyn Bridge, and in Portland, Oregon, they forced open a jail gate, prompting the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office to declare a riot.
"The crowd, which was described as hostile, launched urine, alcoholic beverages, water bottles and batteries at deputies during the event," the sheriff's office said in a press release early Saturday morning.

At around 7:30 pm Friday, members of a crowd dressed in black to obscure their identities spray-painted the Justice Center. People chanted “Rittenhouse is guilty!” and “Kyle is a terrorist!” to the accompaniment of drums.

the same people that have been terrorizing that city for over a year and a half chanting "Kyle is a terrorist"....this is precious

your instinct is to deny that your side did anything wrong. despite experts saying he’s got great claims.
I don't really ascribe to any sides, you know this.

you know more about everything, then everyone. and every single opinion is the same. liberal=good.
The thing is the jury was acting on a very narrow set of charges with very specific rules and the judge made it even more difficult for the prosecuting by not allowing evidence of the broader situation. Because he was acquitted of those 5 counts does not mean he is innocent. I'm curious what lesser charges might have been considered and not acted on.

I don't really ascribe to any sides, you know this.

:rotflmao: did you really type that with a straight face?
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:rotflmao: did you really type that with a straight face?
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he has said he’s not a liberal. he also admitted there’s not a single policy issue, on which he disagrees with liberals.
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I don't really ascribe to any sides, you know this.


The thing is the jury was acting on a very narrow set of charges with very specific rules and the judge made it even more difficult for the prosecuting by not allowing evidence of the broader situation. Because he was acquitted of those 5 counts does not mean he is innocent. I'm curious what lesser charges might have been considered and not acted on.

he killed those people. there’s no argument to be made he broke a law. you are now to the left of chris cuomo, who is saying he didn’t break any laws as written.

you’re right, there’s a very narrow set of circumstances under which you can kill someone and not deserve prison. this was one of those times.

the way your side ( and every single person who ever spoke to you knows what side you’re on) handled this, is going to hurt them. and they absolutely deserve it. they deserve to suffer for what they did to this kid. he was 17. they tried to ruin his life, which was a small price to pay to help improve the chances of beating trump. and they will suffer. ratings will drop on the stations where you get indoctrinated, people
will donate to the gop, polling will
continue to look good for the gop.

covid cases? dropping in FL, increasing in northern blue states. but nothing to see there . only republican governors are to blame for spiking covid cases, right?
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he also admitted there’s not a single policy issue, on which he disagrees with liberals.
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I've never said this.

I've never said this.

the hell you didn’t!

the closest you’d
come to disagreeing with the liberals, you said, was “peace through strength.”

since there is no liberal position of “peace through weakness”, that’s means that there’s not a single actual policy issue in which you disagree with liberalism.

am i wrong? fine. tell us which official democrat policy position held by liberals today, that you think is 100% wrong, and on which you agree 100% with republicans.
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I don't really ascribe to any sides, you know this.
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:rotflmao: did you really type that with a straight face?

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This is perhaps the most deranged thing I’ve ever posted here.
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:laugha:it qualifies....

I saw this on Newsmax. And it sums up the GOP and their response to this trial


“But an acquittal does not make a foolish man a hero. A political movement that turns a deadly and ineffective vigilante into a role model is a movement that is courting more violence and encouraging more young men to recklessly brandish weapons in dangerous places, and that will spill more blood in America’s streets.”
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I saw this on Newsmax. And it sums up the GOP and their response to this trial


“But an acquittal does not make a foolish man a hero. A political movement that turns a deadly and ineffective vigilante into a role model is a movement that is courting more violence and encouraging more young men to recklessly brandish weapons in dangerous places, and that will spill more blood in America’s streets.”
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yes the entire gop is telling 17 year olds everywhere to charge into riots with ar-15s. that’s what we’re all saying.

and no prominent democrats did anything to support the violent rioters hat whole summer wayne?

you have no problem with riots that resulted in actual murders, god knows how many billions in property damage, with sometimes explicit encouragement from prominent democrats. chris cuomo said on national tv, “show me where it says protests have to be peaceful?”. ( hey dummy, it says exactly that in every criminal code ever written).

none of that concerns you at all.

most republicans aren’t celebrating what rittenhouse did ( defending it, isn’t celebrating it). what we are celebrating, is the relief we felt at knowing that our system of justice stood up to your sides baseless, horribly dishonest, liberal bloodlust aimed at a child.

your side humiliated themselves again, and they never deserved it more than with what they tried to do to this kid. they will pay. they’ll pay in civil court, and they’ll pay at the polls. you showed america what you’re capable of. let’s see how america responds. recent polling seems to be consistently saying that america doesn’t like whet it’s seeing.

a guy who you aren’t threatening in
any way, points a gun at your face from 5 feet away, and that’s not self defense? we have to have that conversation? seriously?

a guy who says “i’m going to kill you” and tries to wrestle your gun away from you, and you’ve done absolutely nothing to that guy, and that’s not a threat wayne?

what bothers me is the guy with the skateboard. he may have actually thought he was trying to subdue a murderer. his motives may have been decent. but when you look at it from rittenhouses perspective, it’s still clearly self defense.

that’s why riots are bad, and encouraging rioters for political gain, is also dangerous.
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yes the entire gop is telling 17 year olds everywhere to charge into riots with ar-15s. that’s what we’re all saying.

and no prominent democrats did anything to support the violent rioters hat whole summer wayne?

you have no problem with riots that resulted in actual murders, god knows how many billions in property damage, with sometimes explicit encouragement from prominent democrats. chris cuomo said on national tv, “show me where it says protests have to be peaceful?”. ( hey dummy, it says exactly that in every criminal code ever written).

none of that concerns you at all.

most republicans aren’t celebrating what rittenhouse did ( defending it, isn’t celebrating it). what we are celebrating, is the relief we felt at knowing that our system of justice stood up to your sides baseless, horribly dishonest, liberal bloodlust aimed at a child.

your side humiliated themselves again, and they never deserved it more than with what they tried to do to this kid. they will pay. they’ll pay in civil court, and they’ll pay at the polls. you showed america what you’re capable of. let’s see how america responds. recent polling seems to be consistently saying that america doesn’t like whet it’s seeing.

a guy who you aren’t threatening in
any way, points a gun at your face from 5 feet away, and that’s not self defense? we have to have that conversation? seriously?

a guy who says “i’m going to kill you” and tries to wrestle your gun away from you, and you’ve done absolutely nothing to that guy, and that’s not a threat wayne?

what bothers me is the guy with the skateboard. he may have actually thought he was trying to subdue a murderer. his motives may have been decent. but when you look at it from rittenhouses perspective, it’s still clearly self defense.

that’s why riots are bad, and encouraging rioters for political gain, is also dangerous.
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Keep convincing yourself their not celebrating

Gym Jordon I think it's a win for our country. Really

Rep. Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina told supporters in a video that “you have a right to defend yourself” and advised them to “be armed, be dangerous and be moral.”

Rittenhouse an instant conservative celebrity. His mother received a standing ovation at a Republican Party dinner last year in Waukesha County, Wisconsin, a month after the shooting.

His own attorney has criticised Republican lawmakers he has accused of trying to capitalise on his client and has called their behaviour “disgusting”.

But you don’t see celebrating you call in defending ya ok
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Rep. Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina told supporters in a video that “you have a right to defend yourself”

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this is disgusting....what is wrong with him??!!

this is disgusting....what is wrong with him??!!

doesn’t Cawthorn know that conservatives (and cops too) are just supposed to stand there and let others kill us?
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I’m not a fan of Congresswoman Ilhan Omar but can you imagine what would be the reaction on Fox News if she told her supporters “be armed, be dangerous” as GOP Congressman Madison Cawthorn did?
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I’m not a fan of Congresswoman Ilhan Omar but can you imagine what would be the reaction on Fox News if she told her supporters “be armed, be dangerous” as GOP Congressman Madison Cawthorn did?
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"Kyle Rittenhouse is not guilty, my friends. You have a right to defend yourself," Cawthorn said in a video posted Friday to his Instagram stories. "Be armed, be dangerous, be moral."

:kewl:

this is probably good advise when dealing with unruly rioters with violent criminal histories who are attacking you.....

CBS said yesterday that he illegally transported the rifle across state lines. They had to correct that.

They're not even trying to hide what they're trying to accomplish. STILL spreading lies.

"Kyle Rittenhouse is not guilty, my friends. You have a right to defend yourself," Cawthorn said in a video posted Friday to his Instagram stories. "Be armed, be dangerous, be moral."

:kewl:

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Oh, Pete edited that, to leave out the imperative to "be moral"? Gee, I wonder why Pete edited it that way.

There's liberalism. Right. There.

Pete, I'd just LOVE IT if you'd explain why you left out the part where Hawthorn said to also be moral?

Oh, Pete edited that, to leave out the imperative to "be moral"? Gee, I wonder why Pete edited it that way.

There's liberalism. Right. There.

Pete, I'd just LOVE IT if you'd explain why you left out the part where Hawthorn said to also be moral?


You’re claiming that Hawthorn is a moral authority?

Quite comical coming from a guy who doesn’t care if his leaders even have morals, only that they’re billionaires or close.

Maybe your kid can be a moral y’all queda hero like Kyle

Would he make Dad proud?
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You’re claiming that Hawthorn is a moral authority?

Quite comical coming from a guy who doesn’t care if his leaders even have morals, only that they’re billionaires or close.

Maybe your kid can be a moral y’all queda hero like Kyle

Would he make Dad proud?
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I'm claiming that he said what he said. Like a good liberal, you very deceptively edited what he said, to make it easier for your deranged intellect to respond to.

Why did you leave out the part where he asked people to "be moral"?

Maybe he's not a moral authority, but he's not the national armorer either. So if you don't take him seriously when he says "be moral", why do you take him literally when he said to be armed?

You're a liar. You got caught red-handed, with exactly zero room for deniability. Z-e-r-o.

Bitch. Slapped.

I'm claiming that he said what he said. Like a good liberal, you very deceptively edited what he said, to make it easier for your deranged intellect to respond to.

Why did you leave out the part where he asked people to "be moral"?

Maybe he's not a moral authority, but he's not the national armorer either. So if you don't take him seriously when he says "be moral", why do you take him literally when he said to be armed?

You're a liar. You got caught red-handed, with exactly zero room for deniability. Z-e-r-o.

Bitch. Slapped.

You didn’t catch me doing anything, little girl, perhaps you can explain the moral imperatives of Kyle killing two people, just something Jesus would do?
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perhaps you can explain the moral imperatives of Kyle killing two people, just something Jesus would do?
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well, Jesus probably wouldn't have a gun...but if you happen to have a gun...and crazy people attack you...you get to shoot them...it's their fault...they asked for it...

well, Jesus probably wouldn't have a gun...but if you happen to have a gun...and crazy people attack you...you get to shoot them...it's their fault...they asked for it...

Maybe if he had a gun, his government wouldn’t have killed him. :hee:
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You didn’t catch me doing anything, little girl, perhaps you can explain the moral imperatives of Kyle killing two people, just something Jesus would do?
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oh my god you’re a lunatic. so self defense is immoral?

guy caught red handed in a lie, and you’re coming un- glued.
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If a black guy walked into Kenosha from out of town with an assault rifle and killed two people while severely wounding another we would have had a very different verdict.
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If a black guy walked into Kenosha from out of town with an assault rifle and killed two people while severely wounding another we would have had a very different verdict.
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that’s all you got?

Tell that story to OJ Simpson.

broke brain. you got broke brain.


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If a black guy walked into Kenosha from out of town with an assault rifle and killed two people while severely wounding another we would have had a very different verdict.
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so you’re best zinger comeback is:

“if the facts were different, I bet you wouldn’t like the outcome!”

i’m not saying there aren’t serious racial inequalities in the criminal
justice system ( and guess who advocated for criminal justice reform which blacks have been begging for, for decades? did obama
do it when his side controlled the legislature? or was it trump?).

the solution, isnt to
increase the wrongful convictions of whites.

this case never should have some to trial, like everything else that’s happened lately it’s completely blown up in the liberals faces. and your side hasn’t begun to pay yet. f this vehicular rampage is believed to be retaliation for Rittenhouse ( no evidence of that, but it’s a heck of a coincidence, and you don’t aim for people if you’re fleeing a prior crime scene) the rights reaction will be volcanic.
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So just what is the right wing media making out of that, an attack on Christmas?
Be very afraid
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So just what is the right wing media making out of that, an attack on Christmas?
Be very afraid
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right now, unlike what the lefty media does, the right wing media is reporting what is happening. as far as i know, they aren’t jumping to dangerous but politically convenient conclusions like the entire left did with Rittenhouse. they aren’t telling conservatives that liberals have declared war, which is how cnn and msnbc spun the rittenhouse tragedy.
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I hope this kid sues everyone involved for everything they have, starting with Joe Biden
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unlike what the lefty media does
.
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this is a good one....

this is a good one....

saw that.

that’s about all you need to know. same person, two messages, ten days apart.

deflect the bad news, give him ( and our pal china!) credit for the good news.
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saw that.

that’s about all you need to know. same person, two messages, ten days apart.

deflect the bad news, give him ( and our pal china!) credit for the good news.
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I actually took the time to read both articles. There's no contradiction. She is reporting on two interviews with different industry experts on two related subjects.

I actually took the time to read both articles. There's no contradiction. She is reporting on two interviews with different industry experts on two related subjects.

but they can’t both be true.
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but they can’t both be true.
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in spenceworld the most ludicrous things are possible....he's like willy wonka for leftists

in spenceworld the most ludicrous things are possible....he's like willy wonka for leftists

This party is disintegrating before our eyes. The nation sees gas prices, inflation, crime, open borders, liberals lying about a 17 year old kid in am attempt to literally ruin his life for political gain, liberals making EVERYTHING about race, liberal prosecutors giving $1,000 bail to a guy who ran over his girlfriend so he can subsequently kill 6 people including a child, the Afghanistan exit, democrats unable to do anything despite controlling the entire federal government, liberals more concerned about how we label "looting" than they are concerned with stopping it, liberals attacking police, liberals telling white kids they should feel guilty, liberals telling parents they aren't qualified to have a say in the education of their children, a liberal president with obvious dementia and a liberal vice president who is an obvious moron even by "Sweathog" standards.

If the woke progressives keep this up, we can get Sean Hannity elected mayor of San Francisco next year.

Who is advising the people who run this party? Aside from Bill Maher and James Carville, I don't think any of them see they have a problem. Clueless.

Imagine what conservative media and would be doing if the DNC were paying Biden's personal legal fees in a tax scam. "We're here talking to an unemployed waitress who gave $25 to Biden's campaign and now she feels...."

I’m fine with the RNC pissing away its war chest funding for the midterm elections on all these losing legal battles. Also, coming to Trump's rescue, it must register on some of the cult base that a man who needs rescuing financially is not a superstar business success.
But it’s hard to recognize the conman , when you're his mark
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Imagine what conservative media and would be doing if the DNC were paying Biden's personal legal fees in a tax scam. "We're here talking to an unemployed waitress who gave $25 to Biden's campaign and now she feels...."

I’m fine with the RNC pissing away its war chest funding for the midterm elections on all these losing legal battles. Also, coming to Trump's rescue, it must register on some of the cult base that a man who needs rescuing financially is not a superstar business success.
But it’s hard to recognize the conman , when you're his mark
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i see, the answer is, "but Trump!"

Pete, what is Trump getting from me, exactly? I don't like him, and I'm living my life and very rarely think about him. You don't like him, and you never stop obsessing about him, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. When does is stop?

YOU'RE his mark, not me.

I’m not funding him, you and your “ilk” are.

Back in the day, people who had achieved great things would visit the President at the White House.

But now, in the upside down, MAGA maniacs worship a murderer, who makes a pilgrimage to Mar-A-Lago to visit the twice-impeached riot inciter with Kim Jong-Un on his wall.
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I’m not funding him, you and your “ilk” are.

Back in the day, people who had achieved great things would visit the President at the White House.

But now, in the upside down, MAGA maniacs worship a murderer, who makes a pilgrimage to Mar-A-Lago to visit the twice-impeached riot inciter with Kim Jong-Un on his wall.
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im not finding trump.

but when people
like you go out there and spew your woke, progressive lunacy…that does fund the gop. because it incentivizes people to get behind conservatives

you’re a huge gift to the right.

now that the trump distraction is out of the picture ( everywhere except in your mind), people can focus their attention on what liberals are saying and doing. Sadly for you, people
are increasingly finding it weird and scary.

Close all federal prisons in ten years? let every single federal convict out within ten years?

saying that at the same exact time as the mass murder in WI? at the hands of a guy who should have been locked up a long time ago?

your party is imploding in front of america’s eyes. almost every impulse and instinct they have, drives people away.
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im not finding trump.

but when people
like you go out there and spew your woke, progressive lunacy…that does fund the gop. because it incentivizes people to get behind conservatives

you’re a huge gift to the right.

now that the trump distraction is out of the picture ( everywhere except in your mind), people can focus their attention on what liberals are saying and doing. Sadly for you, people
are increasingly finding it weird and scary.

Close all federal prisons in ten years? let every single federal convict out within ten years?

saying that at the same exact time as the mass murder in WI? at the hands of a guy who should have been locked up a long time ago?

your party is imploding in front of america’s eyes. almost every impulse and instinct they have, drives people away.
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Sure Jim
Americans kill more Americans than foreigners kill Americans so we should probably play it safe and not let any more Americans into America.
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Sure Jim
Americans kill more Americans than foreigners kill Americans so we should probably play it safe and not let any more Americans into America.
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yes pete, i specifically said that it’s a good thing that americans kill each other.

more death!

according to your side, no cash bail,,defunding police, and closing federal prisons, are ideas that will result in fewer americans killing each other?

stick with that platform, especially right now, in a swing state like WI. that platform will be very popular in WI today.

so stupid.
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you’re a huge gift to the right.


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I wouldn't go that far...he must be tons of fun at the thanksgiving table:fury:

I wouldn't go that far...he must be tons of fun at the thanksgiving table:fury:

his mindset is a huge gift.

In the same moment that the nation is watching with horror what happened in Wisconsin, and realizing how horribly the criminal
justice system in america failed to protect seniors and children from this animal. IN THAT SAME MOMENT, you have AOC calling for further reductions to bail, and you have Rashida Talib saying federal prisons should all be closed in ten years and every inmate released.

that’s taking stupid and incompetence to evangelical heights.

That’s a huge gift to the gop.
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yes pete, i specifically said that it’s a good thing that americans kill each other.

more death!

according to your side, no cash bail,,defunding police, and closing federal prisons, are ideas that will result in fewer americans killing each other?

stick with that platform, especially right now, in a swing state like WI. that platform will be very popular in WI today.

so stupid.
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Cash bail is one of the bigger drivers of recividism, Sam gets arrested for a petty theft committed because he’s broke or nearly so. Can’t post bail, loses his job.
When he gets out he’s broke, homeless and jobless.
Wonder what his choices are?

Police get called for a welfare check, autistic person they are checking on freaks, untrained cops freak, someone ends up dead.
Defunding was an unfortunate choice of words, changing the role of police is supported by police.

For profit prisons have zero incentive to reduce recidivism, who’s going to reduce their customer base. We imprison far more people than other developed countries, is that because Americans are more likely to commit crimes?

But be very afraid, because someone has found an extreme example and presented it as the norm.
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Cash bail is one of the bigger drivers of recividism, Sam gets arrested for a petty theft committed because he’s broke or nearly so. Can’t post bail, loses his job.
When he gets out he’s broke, homeless and jobless.
Wonder what his choices are?

Police get called for a welfare check, autistic person they are checking on freaks, untrained cops freak, someone ends up dead.
Defunding was an unfortunate choice of words, changing the role of police is supported by police.

For profit prisons have zero incentive to reduce recidivism, who’s going to reduce their customer base. We imprison far more people than other developed countries, is that because Americans are more likely to commit crimes?

But be very afraid, because someone has found an extreme example and presented it as the norm.
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i don’t disagree that there’s a downside to cash bail, and that the downside effects poor people.

but there are other scenarios in addition to poor Sam there.

this guy in Wisconsin didn’t get $1,000 bail for petty theft. First, he ran over a woman with his truck. Second, he had an active warrant for him in Nevada for skipping bail
there in a sex crime.

that’s what angers americans. obviously setting bail isn’t an exact science, and obviously no one has a crystal ball.

but you’d have to be an idiot to give $1,000 bail
to this guy, in that situation. the optics could not be worse for democrats. the milwaukee states attorney is an avowed progressive, who is on record saying that people
he lets go will at some point kill someone else, but that doesn’t devalue the idea of leniency. boy oh boy was he right about that.

naturally you posted one scenario about a non violent guy. just stealing diapers and baby formula. Sam probably left an apology note too.

that scenario needs to be discussed pete, but so does the other extreme.

this is just the latest in a string of complete disasters for this ad
inistration, one after the other after the other after the other. a never ending conga line of embarrassment.

biden saying the rittenhouse jury spoke and that’s that. than an hour later he switches gears and says he’s angry. a president can’t do that. he is oo weak to not to it.
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is that because Americans are more likely to commit crimes?

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yup...especially in places of genius like San Francisco where they have essentially decriminalize stealing property and can't understand why there is so much theft and looting...it's brilliant stuff

yup...especially in places of genius like San Francisco where they have essentially decriminalize stealing property and can't understand why there is so much theft and looting...it's brilliant stuff

Organized retail crime is real and it isn’t petty theft, but keep eating up what they feed you.
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Organized retail crime is real and it isn’t petty theft, but keep eating up what they feed you.
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Where do you get your $hit info from, the Oracle of Delphi?

Where do you get your $hit info from, the Oracle of Delphi?

Wall Street Journal also read by the Oracle, of Omaha that is
https://www.wsj.com/articles/cvs-home-depot-theft-organized-crime-11630505851
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Wall Street Journal
https://www.wsj.com/articles/cvs-home-depot-theft-organized-crime-11630505851
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I meant, in general, where do you get your info. Your "keep eating up what they feed you" sarc implies that Scott's sources feed him fake junk and you're sources don't feed you crap, but nourishes you with pure nutritious journalistic manna from the gods of truth.

As for your WSJ article, it doesn't discount what Scottw said. As in this quote from the article:
"Retail investigators blame changes in sentencing laws in some states for an uptick in thefts. In California, a 2014 law downgraded the theft of less than $950 worth of goods to a misdemeanor from a felony.


Also this WSJ article backs up Scottw's post: https://www.wsj.com/articles/california-the-shoplifting-state-11604361241

If you think the WSJ feeds you good stuff, would you like to discuss its articles on Critical Race Theory, or the Rittenhouse verdict?

I meant, in general, where do you get your info. Your "keep eating up what they feed you" sarc implies that Scott's sources feed him fake junk and you're sources don't feed you crap, but nourishes you with pure nutritious journalistic manna from the gods of truth.

As for your WSJ article, it doesn't discount what Scottw said. As in this quote from the article:
"Retail investigators blame changes in sentencing laws in some states for an uptick in thefts. In California, a 2014 law downgraded the theft of less than $950 worth of goods to a misdemeanor from a felony.


Also this WSJ article backs up Scottw's post: https://www.wsj.com/articles/california-the-shoplifting-state-11604361241

If you think the WSJ feeds you good stuff, would you like to discuss its articles on Critical Race Theory, or the Rittenhouse verdict?

So a 2014 law puts this in the news now?

Be very afraid
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So a 2014 law puts this in the news now?

Be very afraid
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Why are you asking me? I quoted the article YOU posted. Check with the WSJ.

If I were to attempt a guess, I would suppose it takes time to develop new strategies to changing circumstances. As those strategies seem to succeed, they proliferate over time. Until it becomes an obvious crisis and authorities react with new laws and greater enforcement. There seems to have been a confluence of loosening restrictions and cutting law enforcement. With the obvious results. So regulations and enforcement may change in another or previous direction.

Why are you asking me? I quoted the article YOU posted. Check with the WSJ.

If I were to attempt a guess, I would suppose it takes time to develop new strategies to changing circumstances. As those strategies seem to succeed, they proliferate over time. Until it becomes an obvious crisis and authorities react with new laws and greater enforcement. There seems to have been a confluence of loosening restrictions and cutting law enforcement. With the obvious results. So regulations and enforcement may change in another or previous direction.

Or maybe just like the cost of everything over time, it becomes ineffective to enforce laws for minor transgressions that cost $5K to prosecute for a $500 crime.
But those are very important and the IRS enforcing tax fraud that’s millions isn’t worth it
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Or maybe just like the cost of everything over time, it becomes ineffective to enforce laws for minor transgressions that cost $5K to prosecute for a $500 crime.
But those are very important and the IRS enforcing tax fraud that’s millions isn’t worth it
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I don't think it's so much that enforcing laws for minor transgression becomes ineffective, it's more a budget allocation thing. Which causes resentment in the community because government is deemed to cater to what and where it is more profitable. In that scenario, poorer sections are plagued more by "minor" transgressions because in the areas where the source of government funding is located, it is more financially rewarding to be more scrupulous about prosecuting ticky-tack crimes.

In my opinion, tending to the "minor" crimes as well as the major ones, can curb the growth of the bigger crimes. Letting the little ones go can be like letting a little cancer grow.

Comparing the IRS to local law enforcement is unfair. The federal government, in effect, has fairly unlimited funding. But it, too, no matter how much it tries to convince us differently, depends on the places that produce wealth. It can pretend to look after poor folks by passing nice sounding legislation and spreading sops into poor communities, or throwing big sums of money there which mostly goes to administration than to the people.

I don't think it's so much that enforcing laws for minor transgression becomes ineffective, it's more a budget allocation thing. Which causes resentment in the community because government is deemed to cater to what and where it is more profitable. In that scenario, poorer sections are plagued more by "minor" transgressions because in the areas where the source of government funding is located, it is more financially rewarding to be more scrupulous about prosecuting ticky-tack crimes.

In my opinion, tending to the "minor" crimes as well as the major ones, can curb the growth of the bigger crimes. Letting the little ones go can be like letting a little cancer grow.

Comparing the IRS to local law enforcement is unfair. The federal government, in effect, has fairly unlimited funding. But it, too, no matter how much it tries to convince us differently, depends on the places that produce wealth. It can pretend to look after poor folks by passing nice sounding legislation and spreading sops into poor communities, or throwing big sums of money there which mostly goes to administration than to the people.
Or let billionaires steal millions while chasing “peons” for dollars
Because the “unlimited” dollars can’t come from the people who end up with them, the serfs need to pay up for the privilege of having some trickle down to them
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Or let billionaires steal millions while chasing “peons” for dollars
Because the “unlimited” dollars can’t come from the people who end up with them, the serfs need to pay up for the privilege of having some trickle down to them
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Sounds like you're ready for a revolution. You should get an AR15 and lots of bullets.

Or you can rely on Biden.

Or let billionaires steal millions while chasing “peons” for dollars
Because the “unlimited” dollars can’t come from the people who end up with them, the serfs need to pay up for the privilege of having some trickle down to them
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you just posted recently that the vast majority if those who run our economy, vote democrat. so take this argument up with the dnc.
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Or maybe just like the cost of everything over time, it becomes ineffective to enforce laws for minor transgressions that cost $5K to prosecute for a $500 crime.

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this is true...an AR-15 is less expensive and more effective for preventing these transgressions...and you probably only need to prevent one to send a clear message that these transgressions won't be tolerated :kewl: