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Jim in CT
11-19-2021, 01:16 PM
let the riots begin.

justice triumphs over obvious, politically-motivated bloodlust.

Jim in CT
11-19-2021, 01:22 PM
media reached a new low. too many lies perpetuated by the media to count.
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Pete F.
11-19-2021, 01:59 PM
Happy aren’t you

Sadly he will no doubt now become a political pawn to a greater degree than before. He'll be an aide to Matt Gaetz and have a prime speaking slot at the RNC in 2024.

It's not healthy but we're not currently a healthy country.

Perhaps he is innocent under the law. And perhaps we've eliminated almost all real obstacles to an American Kristallnacht, legally of course.

In that vein, a Republican member of Congress has instructed his supporters to “be armed, be dangerous.”
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Jim in CT
11-19-2021, 02:16 PM
Happy aren’t you

Sadly he will no doubt now become a political pawn to a greater degree than before. He'll be an aide to Matt Gaetz and have a prime speaking slot at the RNC in 2024.

It's not healthy but we're not currently a healthy country.

Perhaps he is innocent under the law. And perhaps we've eliminated almost all real obstacles to an American Kristallnacht, legally of course.

In that vein, a Republican member of Congress has instructed his supporters to “be armed, be dangerous.”
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“perhaps he is innocent under the law.”

with that statement, you are clearly saying the jury did the exact right thing. because all that matters, s how it fits under the law, not according to who you hope wins the next election.
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spence
11-19-2021, 02:40 PM
It was a great victory for gun toting minors who like to strut around at riots.

I do think the national attention to this case will lead to more tragic shootings.

Pete F.
11-19-2021, 02:46 PM
“perhaps he is innocent under the law.”

with that statement, you are clearly saying the jury did the exact right thing. because all that matters, s how it fits under the law, not according to who you hope wins the next election.
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No, I’m not required to think the jury is correct, only respect it’s decision.

I wonder what a jury would have decided and what you would claim if Gaige Grosskreutz had shot in self defense the man who already had killed two people, shot at others and was pointing a weapon at him.
Would he be your hero?
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Jim in CT
11-19-2021, 03:01 PM
It was a great victory for gun toting minors who like to strut around at riots.

I do think the national attention to this case will lead to more tragic shootings.

“like to shoot around”

so it’s just a random coincidence that the people he shot, were all involved in a confrontation with him?

he just shot people at random, right?

you don’t believe in self defense?

terrible post.
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Jim in CT
11-19-2021, 03:02 PM
It was a great victory for gun toting minors who like to strut around at riots.

I do think the national attention to this case will lead to more tragic shootings.

and what will
media distortions and constant lies lead to?
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scottw
11-19-2021, 03:16 PM
I wonder what a jury would have decided and what you would claim if Gaige Grosskreutz had shot in self defense the man who already had killed two people, shot at others and was pointing a weapon at him.
Would he be your hero?

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you don't have to wonder pete, there is the example of the unarmed woman shot during the cell phone insurrection, I think we all blamed her for being there...if Kyle had threatened Grossk...and aimed a gun at him, Kyle would have deserved to be shot at and perhaps killed...that's not how it happened though, however much you'd like to think...Kyle hadn't shot anyone or even pointed a gun at anyone until he was attacked, and then attacked again and then threatened...by people that I believe all had violent/criminal histories...

scottw
11-19-2021, 03:16 PM
It was a great victory for gun toting minors who like to strut around at riots.

I do think the national attention to this case will lead to more tragic shootings.

bitter and dumb

detbuch
11-19-2021, 04:19 PM
you don't have to wonder pete, there is the example of the unarmed woman shot during the cell phone insurrection, I think we all blamed her for being there...if Kyle had threatened Grossk...and aimed a gun at him, Kyle would have deserved to be shot at and perhaps killed...that's not how it happened though, however much you'd like to think...Kyle hadn't shot anyone or even pointed a gun at anyone until he was attacked, and then attacked again and then threatened...by people that I believe all had violent/criminal histories...

Pete likes to create fake scenarios that have no relation to the argument at hand.

Jim in CT
11-19-2021, 04:26 PM
No, I’m not required to think the jury is correct, only respect it’s decision.

I wonder what a jury would have decided and what you would claim if Gaige Grosskreutz had shot in self defense the man who already had killed two people, shot at others and was pointing a weapon at him.
Would he be your hero?
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Lying through your teeth. Gaige testified that Kyle never had his gun pointed at Gaige, until Gaige pointed his gun at Kyle. This is precisely what Gaige testified in court, and precisely what photos showed. This was the turning point in the trial, when the prosecution was doomed. Gaige was a prosecution witness, who testified that he pointed a gun at kyle
first.
.

the next damn day, Gaige was MSNBc, saying that Kyle tried to
murder him. naturally the “journalist” an msnbc didn’t say “hold on, that’s not what you testified to yesterday. so we’re you lying then, or are you lying now”?

Pete, we know for a fact, that Gaige pointed his gun at Kyles head before Kyle shot him. What was Kyle supposed to do?

this was dumb, even for you.
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spence
11-19-2021, 04:42 PM
media reached a new low. too many lies perpetuated by the media to count.
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What did the media lie about?

Jim in CT
11-19-2021, 04:42 PM
Biden was asked if he stood by calling Kyle a white supremacist. As anyone could have predicted, Biden got angry and refused to answer.
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spence
11-19-2021, 04:49 PM
Biden was asked if he stood by calling Kyle a white supremacist. As anyone could have predicted, Biden got angry and refused to answer.
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I'd be willing to wager it was a staffer and he didn't even know what they were talking about.

Cue Scott with a stupid ageism remark.

Jim in CT
11-19-2021, 04:50 PM
What did the media lie about?

that he was a white supremacist.

that he was just shooting people, with no cause.

that he drive the gun across state lines.

that it had anything whatsoever, to do with race. for months, i assumed he shot black people, based on media reports.

that he only went to Kinosha looking for trouble ( his father lives there, he’s there all the time.)

then there’s someone at msnbc ordering a reporter to follow the jurors. that’s not stupid.

you’re slipping. even you aren’t usually this poorly informed. drinking out of pete’s commie glass?
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spence
11-19-2021, 04:59 PM
that he was a white supremacist.
I think that was just social media responding to him in a bar flashing a white power sign.

that he was just shooting people, with no cause.
Never head this.

that he drive the gun across state lines.
I think that was just uninformed reporting, certainly not a lie. Not sure it's even material.

that it had anything whatsoever, to do with race. for months, i assumed he shot black people, based on media reports.
Never heard this.

that he only went to Kinosha looking for trouble ( his father lives there, he’s there all the time.)
Again, I don't think this is anything close to a lie. Until the trial I'm not sure anyone knew this.

then there’s someone at msnbc ordering a reporter to follow the jurors. that’s not stupid.

The guy was a freelancer working for MSNBC. If they really directed him to do that it would be stupid but also I've not seen any confirmation that's what actually happened.

detbuch
11-19-2021, 05:46 PM
I think that was just social media responding to him in a bar flashing a white power sign.


Never head this.


I think that was just uninformed reporting, certainly not a lie. Not sure it's even material.


Never heard this.


Again, I don't think this is anything close to a lie. Until the trial I'm not sure anyone knew this.


The guy was a freelancer working for MSNBC. If they really directed him to do that it would be stupid but also I've not seen any confirmation that's what actually happened.

But when Trump said something that was uninformed, it was called a lie.

Try this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-SKkvH_AUc

detbuch
11-19-2021, 06:08 PM
What did the media lie about?

Try this: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/celebs-including-ava-duvernay-patti-lupone-react-to-hollowing-kyle-rittenhouse-verdict/ar-AAQUVs8?ocid=msedgntp

Jim in CT
11-19-2021, 06:13 PM
spence you asked about lying.

on man call right now, the graphic in the bottom of the screen says “killer at BLM rally acquitted for
killing two”.

the host said “the jury co-signed on vigilantes”.

“the judge did everything he could
to maintain white supremacism.”

“a white boy went out and terrorized people at a demonstration”- that was a colllege professor.

“it was a white supremacist assault on black life.”. - again the college professor.

i cannot believe i’m in the planet earth. imagine being a student in her class. jesus god.

“the law says that white relief is the important thing to take away from all
this.”
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Pete F.
11-19-2021, 07:17 PM
Lying through your teeth. Gaige testified that Kyle never had his gun pointed at Gaige, until Gaige pointed his gun at Kyle. This is precisely what Gaige testified in court, and precisely what photos showed. This was the turning point in the trial, when the prosecution was doomed. Gaige was a prosecution witness, who testified that he pointed a gun at kyle
first.
.

the next damn day, Gaige was MSNBc, saying that Kyle tried to
murder him. naturally the “journalist” an msnbc didn’t say “hold on, that’s not what you testified to yesterday. so we’re you lying then, or are you lying now”?

Pete, we know for a fact, that Gaige pointed his gun at Kyles head before Kyle shot him. What was Kyle supposed to do?

this was dumb, even for you.
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We know for a fact that Kyle had already killed two people and shot at others.
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wdmso
11-19-2021, 07:33 PM
Wasn’t OJ found not guilty

How many people accept that?

Just goes to show who ever shoots 1st and yells self defense wins.

The jury just allowed qualified immunity into civilian shootings

But. In the end not guilty is not guilty
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Jim in CT
11-19-2021, 07:33 PM
We know for a fact that Kyle had already killed two people and shot at others.
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right. which doesn’t mean, nor should it mean, he then had to let Gaige shoot him in the face. does it?

and the ones he killed? self defense.

another disaster for the left. an absolute disaster.
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scottw
11-19-2021, 07:36 PM
Cue Scott with a stupid ageism remark.



you are sounding senile with the nonsense you are drooling....

scottw
11-19-2021, 07:38 PM
he's going to be living large on the lawsuits he's about to file and win or settle against a bunch of media members and organizations...

scottw
11-19-2021, 07:43 PM
We know for a fact that Kyle had already killed two people and shot at others.
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was there testimony that he shot at someone that wasn't threatening him?... we know for a fact that those he did shoot were shot in self defense...sorry pete...maybe you will obsess and cry over this one for longer that you've been hoping trump will be jailed :doh:

Jim in CT
11-19-2021, 07:59 PM
joy reid: rittenhouse trial
was designed to protect white supremacists who kill.
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spence
11-19-2021, 09:10 PM
he's going to be living large on the lawsuits he's about to file and win or settle against a bunch of media members and organizations...
Wait for the civil lawsuits. He has nothing against the media.

Jim in CT
11-19-2021, 09:15 PM
Wait for the civil lawsuits. He has nothing against the media.

yeah the media all
just said “let’s wait for the facts to come in.”.

dershowitz saying he has a very strong case because they called him a white supremacist and that he illegally crossed state lines with. rifle. those are t opinions, they are verifiable facts, and guy can be sued for misstating those facts

msnbc and cnn were pathologically peddling verifiably false information. he’s going to make a fortune against cnn and msnbc.
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spence
11-19-2021, 09:37 PM
msnbc and cnn were pathologically peddling verifiably false information. he’s going to make a fortune against cnn and msnbc.
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What a joke. Be specific.

Besides Jim, an acquittal it a technical thing. It’s not an ethical win.

Pete F.
11-19-2021, 10:06 PM
Why would any decent person be drawn to a political party that glorifies a disturbed teenager killing two people?
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detbuch
11-19-2021, 10:15 PM
Why would any decent person be drawn to a political party that glorifies a disturbed teenager killing two people?
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There are a lot of empty spaces in your sentence which leave out a more detailed account of what happened. But that's what you do. It's your very transparent way of framing things to suit whatever narrative your trying to peddle. It's a way of lying without appearing to. It's propaganda.

Why would a decent person be drawn to agreeing with your fake, made up narratives?

Jim in CT
11-19-2021, 10:19 PM
Why would any decent person be drawn to a political party that glorifies a disturbed teenager killing two people?
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better to be drawn to a party which according to you, attracts the leaders of our economy, who according to you, are evil plutocrats who destroyed all the mom and pop stores?

your words, pete. your words. try squirming your way out of that.

and no one here is glorifying the death. we’re celebrating that justice prevailed over liberal political bloodlust. that’s worth celebrating. but there’s no glorifying what happened when two people
are dead.
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spence
11-19-2021, 10:59 PM
and no one here is glorifying the death. we’re celebrating that justice prevailed over liberal political bloodlust. that’s worth celebrating. but there’s no glorifying what happened when two people
are dead.
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This is perhaps the most deranged thing ever posted here.

The Dad Fisherman
11-19-2021, 11:04 PM
I'd be willing to wager it was a staffer and he didn't even know what they were talking about.

Well, there was the Biden campaign video, that included footage of Rittenhouse, that wanted Trump to disavow white supremacy

“I’m Joe Biden, and I approve this message”

Is your picture in the dictionary next to the definition of “Wrong”?
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Jim in CT
11-19-2021, 11:36 PM
This is perhaps the most deranged thing ever posted here.

i’m right. no one is glorifying what took place. we’re happy the system
stood up to the weight of the mob.

that’s a good thing, miss.
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Raider Ronnie
11-20-2021, 07:47 AM
Why would any decent person be drawn to a political party that glorifies a disturbed teenager killing two people?
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Why would any decent person be drawn to a political party that condones (some even encourage) burning down property ???
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Pete F.
11-20-2021, 09:47 AM
Candace Owens says "I want vengeance," adding that the Rittenhouse verdict "doesn't feel like a win"
Kurt Schlicter says:
“Your pain delights me. Kyle Rittenhouse killed two leftist catspaws and bisected the bicep of another and there’s nothing you can do about it.“

This is really stupid. We have trained law enforcement officers to handle rioting. Instead the right wing media wants to endorse vigilantism by 17 years olds armed with AR-15s. What is this, a banana republic?
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Jim in CT
11-20-2021, 09:56 AM
Candace Owens says "I want vengeance," adding that the Rittenhouse verdict "doesn't feel like a win"
Kurt Schlicter says:
“Your pain delights me. Kyle Rittenhouse killed two leftist catspaws and bisected the bicep of another and there’s nothing you can do about it.“

This is really stupid. We have trained law enforcement officers to handle rioting. Instead the right wing media wants to endorse vigilantism by 17 years olds armed with AR-15s. What is this, a banana republic?
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but elected liberal mayors and governors tell the police not to put down the riots ( more important to be seen back then as sympathetic to BLM), so you force citizens to take care of themselves.

that’s what’s really stupid. mayors, governors, and Trump aowed these riots to continue, and for purely political reasons as a heated election was around the corner. they all share blame.

pete here’s what’s also stupid. the media for some godforsaken reason is obsessed with the fact that rittenhouse crossed state lines, which means absolutely nothing. they also ignored that his first victim was a convicted child rapist who was screaming the n-word at the top of his lungs. but he’s your martyr. you can have him.

and the media obviously left out that he said he was going to kill rittenhouse and tried to grab his gun. if you watched the news, you’d think that guy was peacefully collecting signatures for a petition for justice when Kyle sh*t him in the back of the head for no reason.

the left runs the risk of badly overplaying their hand here. Kyle fit the mold of the liberal villain ( just like Nick Sandman), and they went all in on smearing him, facts be damned. it was a rare case of america getting to see how completely dishonest the media is.
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detbuch
11-20-2021, 11:53 AM
Candace Owens says "I want vengeance," adding that the Rittenhouse verdict "doesn't feel like a win"
Kurt Schlicter says:
“Your pain delights me. Kyle Rittenhouse killed two leftist catspaws and bisected the bicep of another and there’s nothing you can do about it.“

They sound like you.

This is really stupid. We have trained law enforcement officers to handle rioting. Instead the right wing media wants to endorse vigilantism by 17 years olds armed with AR-15s. What is this, a banana republic?
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A banana republic does not allow its citizens to own AR-15s. The "trained enforcement officers in a banana republic serve the state and suppress any attempt by the citizens to decide what justice is or to defend themselves in any way that the state does not allow. Banana republics are very efficient at negating vigilantes. Those who chased Rittenhouse are the vigilantes.

spence
11-20-2021, 03:11 PM
Why would any decent person be drawn to a political party that condones (some even encourage) burning down property ???
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That’s actually how you complete your Democrat voter registration, you have to demonstrate you know to make a Molotov cocktail and commit an act of arson :rollem:

The Dad Fisherman
11-22-2021, 03:36 PM
I'd be willing to wager it was a staffer and he didn't even know what they were talking about.

https://i2.wp.com/turtleboysports.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Screen-Shot-2021-11-19-at-1.38.49-PM.png?resize=702%2C1016&ssl=1

:hee:
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Jim in CT
11-22-2021, 03:51 PM
That’s actually how you complete your Democrat voter registration, you have to demonstrate you know to make a Molotov cocktail and commit an act of arson :rollem:

No one prominent on the left, was encouraging them, Spence? When Chris Cuomo says on prime time tv, "show me where it says protests have to be peaceful", that's not condoning violence?

Every single time any liberal says cops are out to get blacks, you're encouraging people to shoot cops, because that's precisely what cops would deserve if they were doing what your side accuses them of. That cops aren't doing anything remotely like that, is of no concern to liberals.

RACISM!

spence
11-22-2021, 04:15 PM
https://i2.wp.com/turtleboysports.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Screen-Shot-2021-11-19-at-1.38.49-PM.png?resize=702%2C1016&ssl=1

:hee:
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Well, this is photoshopped by the way. I actually found the tweet in question. It doesn't say Rittenhouse is a white supremacists but also calls out militia groups. Considering Rittenhouse was hanging with militia groups that night and was photographed (flashing a white power sign no less) drinking beer with the proud boys after he was released on bail that's no stretch.

Only issue I see is commenting on an ongoing legal case.

scottw
11-22-2021, 04:20 PM
(flashing a white power sign no less)



thumbs up or middle finger?

how come only the insane leftists are familiar with these white power signs?

scottw
11-22-2021, 04:24 PM
Only issue I see is ....



this is typically the issue...