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Jim in CT
12-02-2021, 09:49 PM
Rachael Maddow is interviewing Abrams. Guess how many times Maddow challenged her about the dangers of making unsubstantiated claims that her last election was stolen from her?

as always, it’s ok when democrats do it.

The GA secretary of state has said very clearly that trump is lying when he says the GA election was stolen. He says the same thing about Abrams. they both fabricated paranoid claims with zero evidence.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5951185001

wdmso
12-03-2021, 09:17 AM
Rachael Maddow is interviewing Abrams. Guess how many times Maddow challenged her about the dangers of making unsubstantiated claims that her last election was stolen from her?

as always, it’s ok when democrats do it.



The GA secretary of state has said very clearly that trump is lying when he says the GA election was stolen. He says the same thing about Abrams. they both fabricated paranoid claims with zero evidence.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5951185001


what’s does a intellectual dishonesty look like ? See above ^^^^^^^^^
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wdmso
12-03-2021, 09:23 AM
I acknowledge that former Secretary of State Brian Kemp will be certified as the victor in the 2018 gubernatorial election," Abrams said, according to NPR. "But to watch an elected official who claims to represent the people in this state baldly pin his hopes for election on suppression of the people's democratic right to vote has been truly appalling."


Trump pressured Georgia’s Republican secretary of state to “find” him enough votes to overturn the presidential election and vaguely threatened him with “a criminal offense” during an hourlong telephone call on Saturday, according to an audio recording of the conversation.

Mr. Trump, who has spent almost nine weeks making false conspiracy claims about his loss to President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr., told Brad Raffensperger, the state’s top elections official, that he should recalculate the vote count so Mr. Trump, not Mr. Biden, would end up winning the state’s 16 electoral votes.


Let me guess Jim in your nuanced View these to things are exactly the same …
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Jim in CT
12-03-2021, 10:05 AM
what’s does a intellectual dishonesty look like ? See above ^^^^^^^^^
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i love insults hurled with zero support.

why is it dishonest for me to say that the left ( correctly) makes. big deal if trump lying about his election being stolen, but the left doesn’t care that stacey abrams did the same thing?

what about that, is dishonest?

the GA secretary of state has said very clearly that trump is a flat out liar. he says the same thing about Abrams. Why is he correct about Trump but incorrect about Abrams?
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Jim in CT
12-03-2021, 10:06 AM
I acknowledge that former Secretary of State Brian Kemp will be certified as the victor in the 2018 gubernatorial election," Abrams said, according to NPR. "But to watch an elected official who claims to represent the people in this state baldly pin his hopes for election on suppression of the people's democratic right to vote has been truly appalling."


Trump pressured Georgia’s Republican secretary of state to “find” him enough votes to overturn the presidential election and vaguely threatened him with “a criminal offense” during an hourlong telephone call on Saturday, according to an audio recording of the conversation.

Mr. Trump, who has spent almost nine weeks making false conspiracy claims about his loss to President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr., told Brad Raffensperger, the state’s top elections official, that he should recalculate the vote count so Mr. Trump, not Mr. Biden, would end up winning the state’s 16 electoral votes.


Let me guess Jim in your nuanced View these to things are exactly the same …
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just because abrams says the vote was suppressed, that means she’s right?

on what basis do you deny she’s lying? just because she’s a democrat.
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Jim in CT
12-03-2021, 10:12 AM
An article in USA today, not a right wing rag...

"While Abrams has maintained the 2018 gubernatorial election was unfair and tainted by voter suppression, there’s no empirical evidence that now-Gov. Kemp stole that election from her"

It's awful when Trump makes false claims about election integrity, but totally fine when democrats do it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/18/fact-check-partly-false-claim-stacey-abrams-2018-race/6318836002/

wdmso
12-03-2021, 02:41 PM
An article in USA today, not a right wing rag...

"While Abrams has maintained the 2018 gubernatorial election was unfair and tainted by voter suppression, there’s no empirical evidence that now-Gov. Kemp stole that election from her"

It's awful when Trump makes false claims about election integrity, but totally fine when democrats do it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/18/fact-check-partly-false-claim-stacey-abrams-2018-race/6318836002/


Jim you are showing a statement from USA Today they used stolen

You can’t show here claiming it was Stolen your own post she states unfair and tainted the words stole don’t exist and yet you continue to pond your round peg in a square hole desperately trying to convince others the two incidents are. The same .. Again


fYIAbrahams acknowledge that former Secretary of State Brian Kemp will be certified as the victor in the 2018 gubernatorial

Trump and his faithful still insisting he won

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scottw
12-03-2021, 03:14 PM
Jim you are showing a statement from USA Today they used stolen

You can’t show here claiming it was Stolen your own post she states unfair and tainted the words stole don’t exist and yet you continue to pond your round peg in a square hole desperately trying to convince others the two incidents are. The same .. Again


fYIAbrahams acknowledge that former Secretary of State Brian Kemp will be certified as the victor in the 2018 gubernatorial

Trump and his faithful still insisting he won

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actually, it's a square peg you might have trouble getting into a round hole...round peg in a square hole means something different

Jim in CT
12-03-2021, 03:14 PM
Jim you are showing a statement from USA Today they used stolen

You can’t show here claiming it was Stolen your own post she states unfair and tainted the words stole don’t exist and yet you continue to pond your round peg in a square hole desperately trying to convince others the two incidents are. The same .. Again


fYIAbrahams acknowledge that former Secretary of State Brian Kemp will be certified as the victor in the 2018 gubernatorial

Trump and his faithful still insisting he won

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You're denying that Abrams says it was stolen, only that it was "unfair"?

From the USA Today ARticle I posted, written by the current secretary of state who says both Trump and Abrams a sore loser liars:

A quote from Abrams:

"We will never concede. … You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2021/10/06/trump-stacey-abrams-brad-raffensperger/5951185001/

If it's enough for you, here is video of Abrams, saying "it was stolen from the voters of Georgia"..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bitJOorUfss

"Trump and his faithful still insisting he won"

Have I ever come close to saying that?

scottw
12-03-2021, 03:15 PM
that's not her...must be an out of context imposter :bl:

Jim in CT
12-03-2021, 03:24 PM
that's not her...must be an out of context imposter :bl:

right, it’s trump in blackface.

these people
can’t admit what’s right in front of them, if it’s not flattering to liberals.

he’s denying she ever said it was stolen. she was all
over the media then, saying exactly that.
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scottw
12-03-2021, 03:27 PM
… You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.”



think of her use of "theft" with respect to stolen in the same way leftists use "mostly peaceful" to describe their protests and you will understand it doesn't mean "stolen"..in the leftist sense of the word:spin:

scottw
12-03-2021, 03:28 PM
right, it’s trump in blackface.

these people
can’t admit what’s right in front of them, if it’s not flattering to liberals.

he’s denying she ever said it was stolen. she was all
over the media then, saying exactly that.
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nope...that is a debunked conspiracy theory clearly...let's ask spence pasaki for a clarification


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spence
12-03-2021, 04:34 PM
If it's enough for you, here is video of Abrams, saying "it was stolen from the voters of Georgia"..
Saying it was stolen from the voters because of voter suppression isn't the same thing as charging there was wholesale fraud as Trump did.

How well did you do in language arts in school?

scottw
12-03-2021, 05:04 PM
Saying it was stolen from the voters because of voter suppression isn't the same thing as charging there was wholesale fraud as Trump did.

How well did you do in language arts in school?

ooooooh...stolen from the voters...not stolen from her...right :scream::bs:

PaulS
12-03-2021, 05:35 PM
Saying it was stolen from the voters because of voter suppression isn't the same thing as charging there was wholesale fraud as Trump did.

How well did you do in language arts in school?

Didn't you basically say the same thing in another thread? Why do you bother
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spence
12-03-2021, 05:37 PM
Didn't you basically say the same thing in another thread? Why do you bother
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Rubbernecking the accident.

scottw
12-03-2021, 05:51 PM
Rubbernecking the accident.

She repeatedly claimed she won. She didn’t

Trump claimed he won. He didn’t.

It the same thing…
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wdmso
12-03-2021, 05:56 PM
You're denying that Abrams says it was stolen, only that it was "unfair"?

From the USA Today ARticle I posted, written by the current secretary of state who says both Trump and Abrams a sore loser liars:

A quote from Abrams:

"We will never concede. … You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2021/10/06/trump-stacey-abrams-brad-raffensperger/5951185001/

If it's enough for you, here is video of Abrams, saying "it was stolen from the voters of Georgia"..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bitJOorUfss

"Trump and his faithful still insisting he won"

Have I ever come close to saying that?

Jim her 1st words out of her mouth is she acknowledge Kemp won under the rules of the election ..

What more do you want .. and OMG Ted asking an election question is a joke

Your in the cult… that is certainly the case and a breitbart clip to boot 😂
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scottw
12-03-2021, 06:08 PM
She’s such a weasel
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Jim in CT
12-03-2021, 06:18 PM
Jim her 1st words out of her mouth is she acknowledge Kemp won under the rules of the election ..

What more do you want .. and OMG Ted asking an election question is a joke

Your in the cult… that is certainly the case and a breitbart clip to boot 😂
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And then after that, she says it was stolen.

If video of her saying that isn't proof to you that she said it, I can't help you.

"Ted asking an election question is a joke "

I'm sorry, there aren't any videos of Rachael Maddow or Whoopi Goldberg asking her why she's lying. If the people you get your news from EVER held liberals accountable for the lies they tell, I'd have gotten you video of that. But they don't, not ever.

Let's recap.

Jim: Stacey Abrams says the election was stolen.

WDMSO: she never said that

Jim: here's video of her saying exactly that.

WDMSO: Ted Crud also spoke on that video, so I dismiss it.

The identity of the person she was speaking to, isn't relevant. She says it was stolen from the citizens of Georgia. There is exactly zero proof of that, other than her claims. The same guy who said Trump is lying about his lection being stolen (which ought to give him some credibility to you), also says Abrams is lying through her teeth.

You don't care. You cannot accept that which doesn't serve liberalism.

"Your in the cult"

You're denying what she said on video. Did Cruz trick her into saying it? Or is he a master ventriloquist?

You're completely humiliating yourself.

Jim in CT
12-03-2021, 06:21 PM
She’s such a weasel
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She's like Trump, a sore loser who can't admit she lost fair and square, and someone capable of telling dangerous, obvious lies.

We are a a point where they deny video evidence. Stacey Abrams is not denying she feels the election was stolen, but WDMSO is denying it. Video of her saying it, isn't enough. I don't know how you talk to someone like that, or why it's worth trying.

Talk about bending the facts to fit your agenda.

It's a mental disorder. When he denies what's on video, and WDMSO and Pete say I'm a Trump zealot who can never criticize Trump, you're dealing with a mental disorder. I can list all the reasons why I hate Trump, and ten seconds later (when they know they are losing a point and can't admit it) they say I'm Sean Hannity.

They don't merely "believe in" liberalism. They are enslaved by it, possessed by it.

Raider Ronnie
12-03-2021, 06:42 PM
She's like Trump, a sore loser who can't admit she lost fair and square, and someone capable of telling dangerous, obvious lies.

We are a a point where they deny video evidence. Stacey Abrams is not denying she feels the election was stolen, but WDMSO is denying it. Video of her saying it, isn't enough. I don't know how you talk to someone like that, or why it's worth trying.

Talk about bending the facts to fit your agenda.

It's a mental disorder. When he denies what's on video, and WDMSO and Pete say I'm a Trump zealot who can never criticize Trump, you're dealing with a mental disorder. I can list all the reasons why I hate Trump, and ten seconds later (when they know they are losing a point and can't admit it) they say I'm Sean Hannity.

They don't merely "believe in" liberalism. They are enslaved by it, possessed by it.


Jim
Do you really believe Trump lost or should I ask, do you really think a senile old guy who was in his basement eating ice cream and watching cartoons got 81 million votes ?

Got Stripers
12-03-2021, 07:15 PM
Jim
Do you really believe Trump lost or should I ask, do you really think a senile old guy who was in his basement eating ice cream and watching cartoons got 81 million votes ?

Yes I do and so do most of Republican attorney generals, even your buddy Trumps AG Barr (aka Trumps inside lawyer) said it was a far election. No one on this board is surprised at that statement, I’m actually shocked you weren’t in DC on the 6th.

Jim in CT
12-03-2021, 07:19 PM
Jim
Do you really believe Trump lost or should I ask, do you really think a senile old guy who was in his basement eating ice cream and watching cartoons got 81 million votes ?

i think it’s interesting that in both the presidential election and in both GA senate races, the gop was looking good until the nation was asleep, and then poof.

i don’t think a ton of people voted for Biden as much as they voted against trump. ronnie, i loved loved loved many of the policies trump got through. but i think he’s so offensive and obnoxious that a lot of people get completely turned off by his behavior and they don’t even bother to think about his policies. so i don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume he pushed a lot of people
to the left. which is why i hope
he doesn’t run again. we have a good chance at historic victories in 2022 and 2024 if we execute properly. we’d do better with someone who’d govern like trump ( not a RINO), but act like a mature adult.
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Pete F.
12-03-2021, 08:02 PM
Jim
Do you really believe Trump lost or should I ask, do you really think a senile old guy who was in his basement eating ice cream and watching cartoons got 81 million votes ?

Oddly, the “senile old guy” has succeeded in marshaling thru Congress, the largest infrastructure legislation in our generation.
The Stable Genius, who claimed to be “ a Genius” failed to accomplish zip.
Magic, apparently
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Jim in CT
12-03-2021, 08:40 PM
Oddly, the “senile old guy” has succeeded in marshaling thru Congress, the largest infrastructure legislation in our generation.
The Stable Genius, who claimed to be “ a Genius” failed to accomplish zip.
Magic, apparently
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that bill could be a big win for them. but the democrats control
both houses of congress and biden is also a democrat. so “marshaling a bill through congress” is t a huge accomplishment, especially since you denied that democrats were holding it up
in the house.

trying to have it both ways again. coming unglued.
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Pete F.
12-03-2021, 08:47 PM
that bill could be a big win for them. but the democrats control
both houses of congress and biden is also a democrat. so “marshaling a bill through congress” is t a huge accomplishment, especially since you denied that democrats were holding it up
in the house.

trying to have it both ways again. coming unglued.
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Marching in lockstep should not be the American way
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Jim in CT
12-03-2021, 09:01 PM
Marching in lockstep should not be the American way
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so did democrats in the house stall
this bill, or not? you’re all over the place.
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scottw
12-03-2021, 09:05 PM
do you really think a senile old guy who was in his basement eating ice cream and watching cartoons got 81 million votes ?



8th Wonder of the World...

Pete F.
12-03-2021, 09:06 PM
so did democrats in the house stall
this bill, or not? you’re all over the place.
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WTF difference does that make, who killed your hero’s infrastructure weeks?
Your claim is what?
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scottw
12-03-2021, 09:09 PM
WTF difference does that make, who killed your hero’s infrastructure weeks?
Your claim is what?
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release your inner hillary :exp:

Jim in CT
12-03-2021, 09:10 PM
WTF difference does that make, who killed your hero’s infrastructure weeks?
Your claim is what?
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can’t answer, huh?
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Pete F.
12-03-2021, 09:22 PM
can’t answer, huh?
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The passage of Biden’s infrastructure bill was delayed, but not stopped.
Who delayed it is immaterial to anyone with a ounce of sense.
Who stopped your hero’s infrastructure agenda?
It wasn’t the “Squad”, so who was it?
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Jim in CT
12-03-2021, 09:33 PM
Who delayed it is immaterial
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if the identity of those who blocked it is “immaterial”, why are you so determined to avoid answering the question?

it obviously matters a great deal
to you, therefore it’s not immaterial.

for the tenth time, trump
blew it on infastructure. that’s all on him. he had two years to pass it and chose not to.

i can admit his flaws. you can’t admit why that bill stalled in the house. what does that say about us?
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Raider Ronnie
12-03-2021, 09:59 PM
Oddly, the “senile old guy” has succeeded in marshaling thru Congress, the largest infrastructure legislation in our generation.
The Stable Genius, who claimed to be “ a Genius” failed to accomplish zip.
Magic, apparently
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You really think the senile old guy is running the country ?
The guy is lucky to get through the day without #^&#^&#^&#^&ting his pants !
Can’t get out 2 coherent sentences in a row without making a fool of himself.
He’s just the guy they chose to be Obama’s mouthpiece. To read the words from the teleprompter they write for him.
The guy wasn’t even the front runner for the primaries till they made all of the others step aside.
As for the infrastructure plan. The only thing it’s going to fix if filling their bank accounts and keeping them in power.

Jim in CT
12-03-2021, 10:05 PM
Georgia’s unemployment is the lowest in the history of the state. ever. GA was one of the first, maybe the first, states to open up during the pandemic.

i thought the republican governor was crazy at the time to open up. looks like he was right and i was wrong. show me any democrats who would say he made the right call.
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Raider Ronnie
12-03-2021, 10:33 PM
Georgia’s unemployment is the lowest in the history of the state. ever. GA was one of the first, maybe the first, states to open up during the pandemic.

i thought the republican governor was crazy at the time to open up. looks like he was right and i was wrong. show me any democrats who would say he made the right call.
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FOLLOW THE $$$$$$

No different than the computer.
The people who make & sell the software make & sell out the viruses and make & sell the anti-virus.

Got Stripers
12-04-2021, 07:16 AM
Hope Renolds Aluminum foil doesn’t run out of stock for you RR.

wdmso
12-04-2021, 07:49 AM
i think it’s interesting that in both the presidential election and in both GA senate races, the gop was looking good until the nation was asleep, and then poof.

She's like Trump, a sore loser who can't admit she lost fair and square, and someone capable of telling dangerous, obvious lies.

you never disappoint ..
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Pete F.
12-04-2021, 08:38 AM
Georgia’s unemployment is the lowest in the history of the state. ever. GA was one of the first, maybe the first, states to open up during the pandemic.

i thought the republican governor was crazy at the time to open up. looks like he was right and i was wrong. show me any democrats who would say he made the right call.
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67% of the covid deaths in the past 5 months came from the 20 lowest vaxxed states & FL & TX

South African scientists report that the areas with the greatest % of unvaccinated & the most prior Deltq infection are getting hit hardest.

We have an area like that. It’s called Florida. It’s the South. It’s many red states around the country.

The strategy— most closely associated with Scott Atlas, formerly of the Trump White House—called “natural herd immunity” is prevailing wisdom in areas that voted for Donald Trump or who listen to some of their political leaders.

That strategy was already costly on its face. 65% of Republican adults are vaccinated compared to 90% of Democrats.

And new data shows that has led to a 50% higher death rate in Republican states.

Getting infected and letting COVID run wild isn’t particularly smart for other reasons. I mean other than just that it kills people.

The more spread, the more chances for a virus to mutate. The more mutations, the more chance of a variant of concern.

This strategy of playing with fire by not getting vaccinated & then getting COVID has kept case counts & deaths high.

But now it turns out that the 10s of millions of people who thought they had immunity aren’t immune, many who didn’t really want COVID. That’s bad news.
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Jim in CT
12-04-2021, 08:41 AM
i think it’s interesting that in both the presidential election and in both GA senate races, the gop was looking good until the nation was asleep, and then poof.

She's like Trump, a sore loser who can't admit she lost fair and square, and someone capable of telling dangerous, obvious lies.

you never disappoint ..
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what did i say that’s not true?

you’re a rabid, rabid partisan. i’ll listen to the GA secretary of state who says both she and trump are lying when they say there was anything wrong with the elections. that’s a guy who can tell the truth regardless of party. you cannot.

that’s a guy with a demonstrated ability to criticize either side. you are completely unable to do that. so he has way more credibility.


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Jim in CT
12-04-2021, 08:47 AM
67% of the covid deaths in the past 5 months came from the 20 lowest vaxxed states & FL & TX

South African scientists report that the areas with the greatest % of unvaccinated & the most prior Deltq infection are getting hit hardest.

We have an area like that. It’s called Florida. It’s the South. It’s many red states around the country.

The strategy— most closely associated with Scott Atlas, formerly of the Trump White House—called “natural herd immunity” is prevailing wisdom in areas that voted for Donald Trump or who listen to some of their political leaders.

That strategy was already costly on its face. 65% of Republican adults are vaccinated compared to 90% of Democrats.

And new data shows that has led to a 50% higher death rate in Republican states.

Getting infected and letting COVID run wild isn’t particularly smart for other reasons. I mean other than just that it kills people.

The more spread, the more chances for a virus to mutate. The more mutations, the more chance of a variant of concern.

This strategy of playing with fire by not getting vaccinated & then getting COVID has kept case counts & deaths high.

But now it turns out that the 10s of millions of people who thought they had immunity aren’t immune, many who didn’t really want COVID. That’s bad news.
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you picked a 5 month window when people inthe north are outside, and people in Florida are staying inside. gee i wonder why you picked that particular window? Florida’s case counts are way, way down now that people are outside. let’s ignore that.

“if you look at florida’s worst single day, and compare it to Mew York’s best single day, Florida is way worse!”

keep cherry picking, Pete.
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wdmso
12-04-2021, 09:54 AM
National unemployment is 4.2 percent GA is 3.2. ATLANTA The unemployment rate can be at a record low even though the aggregate number of workers is not at a record high because the overall labor force has shrunk during the pandemic. The DoL said the total labor force remains down by 37,000 since the start of the pandemic.

In September, Georgia said more than 7,700 workers found jobs while 6,000 dropped out of the labor force, resulting in a nearly 14,000 decrease in the number of residents officially considered unemployed.




Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel is slamming President Joe Biden over the latest jobs report.
In a Friday tweet, McDaniel wrote: "350,000 FEWER jobs were created last month than expected. Biden’s big government socialism doesn’t work!" Yet ignore the National 4.2 rate. Oh I forgot that’s Republican Governors doing. LOL. Republicans expecting a bill recently signed hasn’t worked LOL

Don’t believe those phony numbers,” Trump declared during his victory speech after the New Hampshire primary, in February. “When you hear 4.9 and five-per-cent unemployment, the number’s probably twenty-eight, twenty-nine, as high as thirty-five—in fact, I even heard recently forty-two per cent.” By June, when he did an interview on Fox News’s “Justice with Judge Jeanine,” he’d received new data. “The number five per cent is a phony number—it’s really twenty per cent, close to twenty-per-cent unemployment. That’s just a phony number to make the politicians look good.” In an August speech on the economy, he said, in reference to the official government unemployment rate, “The five-per-cent figure is one of the biggest hoaxes in American modern politics.”

What’s Funny GA uses the same method the US government uses to calculate the un employment Rate

Yet now Republicans believe the numbers in GA not the US Governments numbers classic bait and switch to the uninformed voter

I am sure the families of the 30k who have died in GA are so happy they opened early so their unemployment could be 3.2 % …
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Raider Ronnie
12-04-2021, 10:18 AM
Hope Renolds Aluminum foil doesn’t run out of stock for you RR.



Let me guess
You drive around in your car alone wearing your mask & a face shield
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Jim in CT
12-04-2021, 10:44 AM
National unemployment is 4.2 percent GA is 3.2. ATLANTA The unemployment rate can be at a record low even though the aggregate number of workers is not at a record high because the overall labor force has shrunk during the pandemic. The DoL said the total labor force remains down by 37,000 since the start of the pandemic.

In September, Georgia said more than 7,700 workers found jobs while 6,000 dropped out of the labor force, resulting in a nearly 14,000 decrease in the number of residents officially considered unemployed.




Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel is slamming President Joe Biden over the latest jobs report.
In a Friday tweet, McDaniel wrote: "350,000 FEWER jobs were created last month than expected. Biden’s big government socialism doesn’t work!" Yet ignore the National 4.2 rate. Oh I forgot that’s Republican Governors doing. LOL. Republicans expecting a bill recently signed hasn’t worked LOL

Don’t believe those phony numbers,” Trump declared during his victory speech after the New Hampshire primary, in February. “When you hear 4.9 and five-per-cent unemployment, the number’s probably twenty-eight, twenty-nine, as high as thirty-five—in fact, I even heard recently forty-two per cent.” By June, when he did an interview on Fox News’s “Justice with Judge Jeanine,” he’d received new data. “The number five per cent is a phony number—it’s really twenty per cent, close to twenty-per-cent unemployment. That’s just a phony number to make the politicians look good.” In an August speech on the economy, he said, in reference to the official government unemployment rate, “The five-per-cent figure is one of the biggest hoaxes in American modern politics.”

What’s Funny GA uses the same method the US government uses to calculate the un employment Rate

Yet now Republicans believe the numbers in GA not the US Governments numbers classic bait and switch to the uninformed voter

I am sure the families of the 30k who have died in GA are so happy they opened early so their unemployment could be 3.2 % …
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you’re dismissing GAs low unemployment. do you feel
the same way about federal unemployment?

i said here that i’m glad federal unemployment is as low as it is. and biden deserves some credit for that. But the jobs number was lousy, and biden deserves some blame for that

^ that there is what honesty looks like. credit where it’s due, criticism where it’s due.


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Pete F.
12-04-2021, 11:36 AM
One has to realize that Georgians might not be very bright.

Here’s a statement from the head of Gang Greene
“Every single year more than 600,000 people in the US die from cancer.

The country has never once shut down.

Not a single school has closed.

And every year, over 600,000 people, of all ages and all races will continue to die from cancer.”
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scottw
12-04-2021, 11:46 AM
One has to realize that Georgians might not be very bright.

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yeah but can they cut and paste?

Jim in CT
12-04-2021, 12:41 PM
One has to realize that Georgians might not be very bright.


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their unemployment is meaningfully lower than the national
average.

GA has very low taxes, and yet they’ve created a quality of life good enough to make tons of people want to move there.

CT has insanely high taxes, and they’ve created a failing, dying sh*thole that people are fleeing.

you’d say CT is smarter. because you are blind.
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Jim in CT
12-04-2021, 12:43 PM
yeah but can they cut and paste?

gotta be wicked smaht to do that.
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PaulS
12-04-2021, 12:49 PM
their unemployment is meaningfully lower than the national
average.

GA has very low taxes, and yet they’ve created a quality of life good enough to make tons of people want to move there.

CT has insanely high taxes, and they’ve created a failing, dying sh*thole that people are fleeing.

you’d say CT is smarter. because you are blind.
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You're a one-trick angry person. All you care about is taxes. Where are the most highly educated highly paid people? If you think that's your idea of a s******* you need to look in the mirror
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wdmso
12-04-2021, 12:50 PM
you’re dismissing GAs low unemployment. do you feel
the same way about federal unemployment?

i said here that i’m glad federal unemployment is as low as it is. and biden deserves some credit for that. But the jobs number was lousy, and biden deserves some blame for that

^ that there is what honesty looks like. credit where it’s due, criticism where it’s due.


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jim I posted who dismisses unemployment numbers as a matter of convenience that’s all

And 3% is very good for People in GA

Republicans have a habit of suggesting all good numbers are fake unless their in office. Then they are spot on.. because they are intellectually dishonest most of the time

Just like how Republicans Gaslight The American People on Infrastructure Deal or how Republicans who voted for Biden's infrastructure bill come under fire from Trump And death threats

America 1st is just a slogan
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Jim in CT
12-04-2021, 12:59 PM
jim I posted who dismisses unemployment numbers as a matter of convenience that’s all

And 3% is very good for People in GA

Republicans have a habit of suggesting all good numbers are fake unless their in office. Then they are spot on.. because they are intellectually dishonest most of the time

Just like how Republicans Gaslight The American People on Infrastructure Deal or how yRepublicans who voted for Biden's infrastructure bill come under fire from Trump And death threats

America 1st is just a slogan
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low unemployment is always dismissed by the opposition party. it’s sleazy and dishonest, like being concerned about debt only when you’re not in power

both sides do it.
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spence
12-04-2021, 01:38 PM
CT has insanely high taxes, and they’ve created a failing, dying sh*thole that people are fleeing.
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Actually according to the 2020 census CT’s population has increased in the past 10 years. Quality of life ranks pretty high.

scottw
12-04-2021, 02:00 PM
Actually according to the 2020 census CT’s population has increased in the past 10 years. Quality of life ranks pretty high.


CONNECTICUT: 2020 Censushttps://www.census.gov › library › stories › state-by-state
Aug 25, 2021 — Of the 47 U.S. states that gained population from 2010 to 2020, the Constitution State's 0.9% growth to 3605944 million was the slowest.

Pete F.
12-04-2021, 02:26 PM
their unemployment is meaningfully lower than the national
average.

GA has very low taxes, and yet they’ve created a quality of life good enough to make tons of people want to move there.

CT has insanely high taxes, and they’ve created a failing, dying sh*thole that people are fleeing.

you’d say CT is smarter. because you are blind.
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None of what you wrote has anything to do with what I posted about the fool they elected and then you, using your magical powers claim to know what I would say.
Fabricating and lying is what all your beliefs seem to be based on
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PaulS
12-04-2021, 02:28 PM
CONNECTICUT: 2020 Censushttps://www.census.gov › library › stories › state-by-state
Aug 25, 2021 — Of the 47 U.S. states that gained population from 2010 to 2020, the Constitution State's 0.9% growth to 3605944 million was the slowest.
Windham, Tolland and Middlesex counties are all solidly Republican and those Counties have all shrunk. I think the county that is shown population growth is Fairfield County . They also lag in income and there is a transfer of money from the Richer democratic counties to the poor Republican ones. Sound familiar as it's similar to what happens in the country as a whole.
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scottw
12-04-2021, 03:03 PM
Windham, Tolland and Middlesex counties are all solidly Republican and those Counties have all shrunk. I think the county that is shown population growth is Fairfield County . They also lag in income and there is a transfer of money from the Richer democratic counties to the poor Republican ones. Sound familiar as it's similar to what happens in the country as a whole.
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you'd think the poor republicans in the poor republican counties would be too poor and dependent the rich democrats to leave...how else could they exist? oohhh ...maybe they are all dying from covid?

Got Stripers
12-04-2021, 03:23 PM
Let me guess
You drive around in your car alone wearing your mask & a face shield
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Actually I think people wearing masks in their cars or out walking are as stupid as anyone still believing the election was stolen.

spence
12-04-2021, 04:44 PM
You're a one-trick angry person. All you care about is taxes.
Wait...wait...he also cares about abortion and black unemployment. Oh, and his obsession with the Squad.

scottw
12-04-2021, 04:47 PM
You're

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good to see some of you making progress on this...

Jim in CT
12-04-2021, 06:22 PM
Windham, Tolland and Middlesex counties are all solidly Republican and those Counties have all shrunk. I think the county that is shown population growth is Fairfield County . They also lag in income and there is a transfer of money from the Richer democratic counties to the poor Republican ones. Sound familiar as it's similar to what happens in the country as a whole.
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fairfield county lags in income? westport, new canaan, greenwich?
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Jim in CT
12-04-2021, 06:23 PM
Actually according to the 2020 census CT’s population has increased in the past 10 years. Quality of life ranks pretty high.

it cranks very high if you can afford it, or if you ignore cost.
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Jim in CT
12-04-2021, 06:24 PM
Actually according to the 2020 census CT’s population has increased in the past 10 years. Quality of life ranks pretty high.

hartford courant says it’s shrinking over time ( decade in census showed a tiny increase.). . and we’re down a congressional
seat.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.courant.com/opinion/letters/hc-le-connecticut-population-0109-20200109-phm5375tqnas5kasp72sark5ki-story.html%3foutputType=amp
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Jim in CT
12-04-2021, 06:30 PM
You're a one-trick angry person. All you care about is taxes. Where are the most highly educated highly paid people? If you think that's your idea of a s******* you need to look in the mirror
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all i care about s taxes, yup.

i don’t deny Ct has a high education level. i’m just bit convinced that means what you think it means. we’re bankrupt paul. unfunded debt is over $50k per taxpayer. what happens when that’s due? any opinions?

very educated people applied high taxes to high incomes, then took billions from the casinos, and then spent zillions more than the tons of
money they had. if that’s what elite education gets you, i’m glad i went to uconn.

now we have legal
sports betting and legal
pot. hooray!!!
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Jim in CT
12-04-2021, 08:09 PM
Wait...wait...he also cares about abortion and black unemployment. Oh, and his obsession with the Squad.

liberals don’t care about abortion! that’s why none of them are getting worked up about the SCOTUS case.
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Pete F.
12-05-2021, 09:23 AM
liberals don’t care about abortion! that’s why none of them are getting worked up about the SCOTUS case.
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Trumplicans would do anything to overturn Roe, using their typically variable belief in integrity.

“To follow her own 1998 law review article, Barrett should have recused herself from this case (indeed, all abortion cases) if she has any integrity at all.” But that’s a huge “if,” especially because her recusal would give Roberts the controlling vote!

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/583742-justice-amy-coney-barretts-own-words-require-her-to-recuse-herself-in
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Jim in CT
12-05-2021, 09:26 AM
Trumplicans would do anything to overturn Roe, using their typically variable belief in integrity.

“To follow her own 1998 law review article, Barrett should have recused herself from this case (indeed, all abortion cases) if she has any integrity at all.” But that’s a huge “if,” especially because her recusal would give Roberts the controlling vote!

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/583742-justice-amy-coney-barretts-own-words-require-her-to-recuse-herself-in
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why should barrett have recused herself?
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Jim in CT
12-05-2021, 09:49 AM
Trumplicans would do anything to overturn Roe, using their typically variable belief in integrity.

“To follow her own 1998 law review article, Barrett should have recused herself from this case (indeed, all abortion cases) if she has any integrity at all.” But that’s a huge “if,” especially because her recusal would give Roberts the controlling vote!

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/583742-justice-amy-coney-barretts-own-words-require-her-to-recuse-herself-in
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did you read that article? Barrett said that IF a catholic judge cannot put aside their catholicism in order to decide a case based on the law, then they must revise themselves. where is the evidence that Barrett cannot decide a case based on the law?

Barrett said in her conformation hearings, that she often decided cars in ways that resulted in an outcome that she didn’t like, but which was what the law required. that’s fine.

all judges have personal
opinions they are supposed to set aside. whether those opinions are formed from their parents, teachers, or religion, they must be put aside when deciding cases. a religiously-informed conscience is no more problematic for a judge than a conscience formed by what the judge was taught in school.

you sound like a religious bigot. there’s no rule that says only atheists can be good judges. if barrett supported a law that requires people to get communion on sunday’s, that would imply she’s putting her faith above the law. i know if no complaints that. suggest she puts her personal beliefs above the law.

another baseless argument, what a stupid article.
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Pete F.
12-05-2021, 10:55 AM
did you read that article? Barrett said that IF a catholic judge cannot put aside their catholicism in order to decide a case based on the law, then they must revise themselves. where is the evidence that Barrett cannot decide a case based on the law?

Barrett said in her conformation hearings, that she often decided cars in ways that resulted in an outcome that she didn’t like, but which was what the law required. that’s fine.

all judges have personal
opinions they are supposed to set aside. whether those opinions are formed from their parents, teachers, or religion, they must be put aside when deciding cases. a religiously-informed conscience is no more problematic for a judge than a conscience formed by what the judge was taught in school.

you sound like a religious bigot. there’s no rule that says only atheists can be good judges. if barrett supported a law that requires people to get communion on sunday’s, that would imply she’s putting her faith above the law. i know if no complaints that. suggest she puts her personal beliefs above the law.

another baseless argument, what a stupid article.
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She wrote the opinion that said

Barrett writes, “A judge who suspends his moral judgment during sentencing sets his conscience aside” and “cuts himself loose from his moral moorings.” That unloosing is itself a sin, she concludes — analogous to “looking lustfully at a woman” and thus committing adultery “in his thoughts.”
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Jim in CT
12-05-2021, 12:42 PM
She wrote the opinion that said

Barrett writes, “A judge who suspends his moral judgment during sentencing sets his conscience aside” and “cuts himself loose from his moral moorings.” That unloosing is itself a sin, she concludes — analogous to “looking lustfully at a woman” and thus committing adultery “in his thoughts.”
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she also said a judge must revise if they’re unable to separate their religious beliefs from what the law says. she didn’t say all
catholics must recuse themselves.

a person whose personal
morals are derived from catholic teaching, is no less qualified to be a judge than a person whose moral
compass was informed
by what they were taught in college or by their parents. as long as a judge can set personal opinions aside when ruling, they’re fine. if a judge cannot out personal morals aside ( whether they are catholic morals or
liberal morals), that’s a bad judge.

there’s nothing unique about catholicism that makes one a bad judge. nothing.
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Pete F.
12-05-2021, 01:00 PM
According to the dark money that put her there, she was appointed to end abortion.
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Jim in CT
12-05-2021, 01:06 PM
According to the dark money that put her there, she was appointed to end abortion.
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she’s superbly qualified to be a judge, way more so than sotomayor who was unanimously overturned by the supreme court on multiple
occasions ( meaning Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Antonio Scalia and everyone i. between, all agreed Sotomayor was wrong in the law).

there are plenty of non-catholic reasons to want it overturned. “search and seizure” is a very questionable way to conclude abortion is something for the feds to declare constitutional. search and seizure had to do with making sure the state has cause and a warrant before they attempt
to search you or your property. kind of a big legal
leap from
there to abortion.

there are plenty of
non catholics who think it should
be overturned.

even if it gets overturned ( zero chance in my opinion), that doesn’t mean abortion is illegal. it means states get to decide. there are plenty of blue states that will never outlaw it, so worst case scenario is women have to get to a blue state to get one.
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Pete F.
12-05-2021, 01:13 PM
Safe abortion has always been available to rich people,
It wasn’t the wealthy dying of sepsis even before Roe
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Jim in CT
12-05-2021, 01:21 PM
Safe abortion has always been available to rich people,
It wasn’t the wealthy dying of sepsis even before Roe
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the wealthy always have better healthcare, that’s not limited to
abortion. it’s not an abortion issue.

defending abortion by saying people
will die during back room abortions, doesn’t work.

people get killed robbing banks, too. the solution, isn’t to legalize bank robbery. so spare me that stupidity.

i pay attention to these things. the pro abortion crowd never strays from talking about the convenience and benefits to the mother of abortion. they never talk about the baby’s point of view, never talk about adoption. Never. Because those facets of this issue, make your side look, well, bad.
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Pete F.
12-05-2021, 03:37 PM
Life is so simple in your world.
It turns out that George Carlin was right, women are just brood mares for the state, or are they as one politician said this week, vessels.

Have you ever known a woman who carried a baby to term and then gave it up for adoption?
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Jim in CT
12-05-2021, 03:42 PM
Life is so simple in your world.
It turns out that George Carlin was right, women are just brood mares for the state, or are they as one politician said this week, vessels.

Have you ever known a woman who carried a baby to term and then gave it up for adoption?
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i didn’t say simple.

but it’s a fact. you and i both agree thar women can choose what to do with their bodies, as long as someone else doesn’t get hurt. i see the baby as someone else. you don’t.

that’s the only difference we have on this issue. you’re not more pro choice than i am, or more pro woman than i am. the only distinction, is that you see the baby as nothing more than a lifeless clump. when i look at a high def ultrasound, i think i see a human being.

that explains 100% of our difference on that issue, yet the left spends 99% of its energy trying to avoid that discussion, because obviously it’s hard to demonize me for having empathy for an unborn baby.
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Jim in CT
12-05-2021, 03:46 PM
Life is so simple in your world.
It turns out that George Carlin was right, women are just brood mares for the state, or are they as one politician said this week, vessels.

Have you ever known a woman who carried a baby to term and then gave it up for adoption?
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“women are just brood
mares.”

there you go again, losing the debate so claiming i said something i never said.

i don’t think women have the right to
murder babies, and i consider that a human baby.

why are so many millions of women opposed to abortion? they’re all self
loathing masochists? all
of them? amy barrett is an idiot who advocates for her own enslavement?

i know one woman ( she was only 18) who carried a baby to term and gave it up for adoption. i don’t know why it’s relevant whether or
not i know someone who did so, but i do. carrying a baby to delivery isn’t trivial, but it’s not a huge deal for
most healthy women, either. it’s a whole lot less permanently invasive for the mom, than an abortion is for
the baby, that’s for sure.

my brother and sister in law also adopted three kids from russia. they couldnt have kids, so they adopted three.
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Got Stripers
12-05-2021, 03:56 PM
Jim I’m curious if your daughter or a family members daughter is raped by the evil uncle or a first date gone horribly wrong, is it your belief she should be forced to carry to term? So your daughter or a close friends gets married and in her first pregnancy, it’s determined there is a high likelihood the baby with serious abnormalities and irreversible health issues will likely not be viable if carried to term, in your belief system and both scenarios your daughter needs to carry to term regardless of the health risks. Sorry for the young girl or women in either case. What if the girl is 13 at the time, still forcing her to carry to term Jim? Fuc*ed up is all I can say, I’m 100% behind a women being able to decide what course she takes.

Jim in CT
12-05-2021, 04:01 PM
Jim I’m curious if your or a family members daughter is raped by the evil uncle or a first date gone horribly wrong, is it your belief she should be forced to carry to term? So your daughter or a close friends gets married and in her first pregnancy, it’s determined there is a high likelihood the baby with serious abnormalities and irreversible health issues will likely not be viable if carried to term, in your belief system, in both scenarios your daughter needs to carry to term regardless of the health risks. Sorry for the young girl or women in either case. What if the girl is 13 at the time, still forcing her to carry to term Jim? Fuc*ed up is all I can say, I’m 100% behind a women being able to decide what course she takes.

that’s a fair question.

before roe v wade, abortion was legal in the cases of rape and incest and when the life of the mom is in danger. i’d happily go back
to that.

abortions on rape victims are also rare, the vast majority of abortions are retroactive birth control for women who engaged in consensual sex.

so a law that only allowed abortions for rape, incest, and when the life of the mom is actually at risk, would
eliminate a huge percentage of abortions.

i see very big differences between a rape victim and someone who got pregnant from consensual
sex. i can’t imagine anyone going through that.

but if you think a baby is a human being at conception, the circumstances surrounding the conception don’t really matter that from the baby’s perspective. so i’d hope that rape victims
would somehow find it in them to give it up for adoption, but of
course that’s easy for me to say, having never been through that.

but again, i’d be very happy to return to pre roe v wade.

that’s a VERY fair and challenging question. but it also addresses a tiny percentage of abortions.

as far as abnormalities go, i don’t think people who weren’t born as lucky as you and i were, are any less human than we are, i don’t make those distinctions. killing people who have abnormalities sounds very Third Reich to me. i have a child with very slight special
needs, nothing too serious. It never occurred to me to chop him up in order to make my life easier. “God don’t make no junk”, as the expression goes.

i think the huge, huge majority of the pro life crowd would carve out exceptions for rape.


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Jim in CT
12-05-2021, 04:11 PM
Jim I’m curious if your daughter or a family members daughter is raped by the evil uncle or a first date gone horribly wrong, is it your belief she should be forced to carry to term? So your daughter or a close friends gets married and in her first pregnancy, it’s determined there is a high likelihood the baby with serious abnormalities and irreversible health issues will likely not be viable if carried to term, in your belief system and both scenarios your daughter needs to carry to term regardless of the health risks. Sorry for the young girl or women in either case. What if the girl is 13 at the time, still forcing her to carry to term Jim? Fuc*ed up is all I can say, I’m 100% behind a women being able to decide what course she takes.

do you believe all women have that right, right up until the baby is out of the womb?

you pointed to an extreme scenario, so allow me to as well. healthy mom, consensual
sex, healthy baby, full term, mom decides she wants a 9th month abortion. you’re ok with that?


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Raider Ronnie
12-05-2021, 04:37 PM
[QUOTE=Pete F.;1218837]Trumplicans would do anything to overturn Roe, using their typically variable belief in integrity.

WRONG !!!
Most all conservatives are like me and have no problem with abortion as long as it’s done within a reasonable timeframe, NOT when the woman is 6-9 months and certainly not partial birth abortion!
Why any woman would be stupid enough to put her body through a pregnancy then abort it 6-9 months into it is #^&#^&#^&#^&ing retarded !!!

Pete F.
12-05-2021, 05:07 PM
[QUOTE=Pete F.;1218837]Trumplicans would do anything to overturn Roe, using their typically variable belief in integrity.

WRONG !!!
Most all conservatives are like me and have no problem with abortion as long as it’s done within a reasonable timeframe, NOT when the woman is 6-9 months and certainly not partial birth abortion!
Why any woman would be stupid enough to put her body through a pregnancy then abort it 6-9 months into it is #^&#^&#^&#^&ing retarded !!!
You can discuss timeframe with Jim all you want.
I’m not the one to explain partial birth abortions and the reason they are performed to you.
Next time you go to your doctor, ask him what they are and why they are done. Tell him you’re concerned about what you’ve heard.
I assume since you’re trusting him with your life, you might value his opinion.
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Got Stripers
12-06-2021, 07:57 AM
do you believe all women have that right, right up until the baby is out of the womb?

you pointed to an extreme scenario, so allow me to as well. healthy mom, consensual
sex, healthy baby, full term, mom decides she wants a 9th month abortion. you’re ok with that?


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No I don’t and most probably agree, if you have carried to term, you have basically already made that decision. Certainly in the early stages and certainly under the circumstances I detailed, I think it’s a women's choice not the governments. By extension, your standards and believe system shouldn’t be forced on anyone. A lot of young girls get pregnant and don’t know it until a lot of these proposed laws would outlaw abortion, I see no reason to force a young girl to carry to term due to a rape or a date going to far.

Jim in CT
12-06-2021, 08:35 AM
No I don’t and most probably agree, if you have carried to term, you have basically already made that decision. Certainly in the early stages and certainly under the circumstances I detailed, I think it’s a women's choice not the governments. By extension, your standards and believe system shouldn’t be forced on anyone. A lot of young girls get pregnant and don’t know it until a lot of these proposed laws would outlaw abortion, I see no reason to force a young girl to carry to term due to a rape or a date going to far.

every single criminal law forces someone’s standards onto the rest of us, doesn’t it?
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wdmso
12-06-2021, 09:14 AM
The 17-19 May national poll found that 53% of Republicans believe Trump, their party’s nominee, is the “true president” now, compared with 3% of Democrats and 25% of all Americans.

About one-quarter of adults falsely believe the 3 November election was tainted by illegal voting, including 56% of Republicans,

How many liberals think GA was stolen NONE

I acknowledge that former Secretary of State Brian Kemp will be certified as the victor in the 2018 gubernatorial election,

Still waiting on you know who to concede


Jims evidence an Instagram post

Stacy (sic) Abrams had the governorship of Georgia stolen from her by a corrupt Secretary of State who abused his office to suppress the vote and hand himself the election,” the Instagram post by liberal account The Other 98% reads. “What did she do? She rolled up her sleeves, registered 800,000 new voters and is about to flip her state blue.”


It’s odd Jim you question vote counting changing over night and mail in ballots

But questing Georgia’s secretary of state. As secretary of state, Kemp who was in charge of running the state’s elections. While running for the office of Governor

, he trimmed more than 1.4 million inactive voters, with low-income and minority Georgians most likely to have their registrations canceled, according to the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Over 668,000 of those registrations were canceled in 2017. In the lead-up to the 2018 election, Georgia put 53,000 voter registrations on hold, the majority of them Black voters, for additional screening.

Yes the law allowed him to do so ..but the optics .. that is the behavior Abrams protested against .

So when you can show that she sued in court to have votes thrown out or a phone call of her asking for anyone to find 55,001 votes so she can win

The 2 are not remotely the same as you insist , even after page after page of evidence which shows she concedes the election to Kemp. Abrams maintains that the 2018 Georgia election process was not fair (Not stolen)

And from your Ted cruise committee questions. You left out this committee statement .. The committee wrote that despite that, it learned “new, concerning information” about voter suppression in Georgia. After removing more than 500,000 voters from rolls – perhaps the largest single cancellation of voter registrations in U.S. history, said

but I get it… how dare a black women question the actions of a white dude in a state who’s racial past isn’t that far in the past…. But it’s ok for Trump to try to overturn a National election .. Americans are still waiting on Trumps and Rudy’s and the kraken and the pillow guys evidence

But but Abrams and classic conservatives tactic Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty.“
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Jim in CT
12-06-2021, 09:33 AM
The 17-19 May national poll found that 53% of Republicans believe Trump, their party’s nominee, is the “true president” now, compared with 3% of Democrats and 25% of all Americans.

About one-quarter of adults falsely believe the 3 November election was tainted by illegal voting, including 56% of Republicans,

How many liberals think GA was stolen NONE

I acknowledge that former Secretary of State Brian Kemp will be certified as the victor in the 2018 gubernatorial election,

Still waiting on you know who to concede


Jims evidence an Instagram post

Stacy (sic) Abrams had the governorship of Georgia stolen from her by a corrupt Secretary of State who abused his office to suppress the vote and hand himself the election,” the Instagram post by liberal account The Other 98% reads. “What did she do? She rolled up her sleeves, registered 800,000 new voters and is about to flip her state blue.”


It’s odd Jim you question vote counting changing over night and mail in ballots

But questing Georgia’s secretary of state. As secretary of state, Kemp who was in charge of running the state’s elections. While running for the office of Governor

, he trimmed more than 1.4 million inactive voters, with low-income and minority Georgians most likely to have their registrations canceled, according to the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Over 668,000 of those registrations were canceled in 2017. In the lead-up to the 2018 election, Georgia put 53,000 voter registrations on hold, the majority of them Black voters, for additional screening.

Yes the law allowed him to do so ..but the optics .. that is the behavior Abrams protested against .

So when you can show that she sued in court to have votes thrown out or a phone call of her asking for anyone to find 55,001 votes so she can win

The 2 are not remotely the same as you insist , even after page after page of evidence which shows she concedes the election to Kemp. Abrams maintains that the 2018 Georgia election process was not fair (Not stolen)

And from your Ted cruise committee questions. You left out this committee statement .. The committee wrote that despite that, it learned “new, concerning information” about voter suppression in Georgia. After removing more than 500,000 voters from rolls – perhaps the largest single cancellation of voter registrations in U.S. history, said

but I get it… how dare a black women question the actions of a white dude in a state who’s racial past isn’t that far in the past…. But it’s ok for Trump to try to overturn a National election .. Americans are still waiting on Trumps and Rudy’s and the kraken and the pillow guys evidence

But but Abrams and classic conservatives tactic Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty.“
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"How many liberals think GA was stolen NONE "

Just because you say no one believes Abrams, doesn't make it so. I have seen the polling that an embarassing number of republicans think the election was stolen. I haven't seen any polling on how many Georgians believe Abrams. Neither have you. Yet you state no one believes her. You are making that up.

You just make up and fabricate what helps your case. You denied that Abrams said the election was stolen, even after I posted video of her saying exactly that Abrams is popular and mainstream and influential on the left, even though she is perpetuating the same lie that you attack Trump for telling. You don't care about spreading that lie, only when Republicans do it.

You care to be angered at people who don't get the vaccine. Trump is encouraging people to get vaccinated, Harris went on TV and said she would refuse to take any vaccine that came under the Trump administration. Yet you can't criticize Harris for encouraging people not to get vaccinated, she's a democrat, that's all that maters to you.


"Jims evidence an Instagram post"

You are very, very dishonest. My evidence was Abrams speaking in front of the US Senate on video, where she said it was stolen.

She's on video saying it, and you are still denying she said it. Amazing.

Every single voter that was trimmed from those voting rolls, every single one, still had the right to vote in that gubernatorial election. That is a fact.

And voter turnout, even among blacks, was very high.
Just watch the video, Wayne. The facts are there. Abrams doesn't deny the facts.

"how dare a black women question the actions of a white dude"

The last, pathetic, desperate act of a liberal moron who knows he lost the argument but can't admit a democrat can be wrong.

She's on video saying it was "stolen". But you deny she said it was stolen. That's rational.

scottw
12-06-2021, 09:50 AM
and the pillow guys evidence

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those pillows are on deep discount and would make a tremendous Christmas gift for your loved ones...I bet you can get some at the Let's Go Brandon Store

Jim in CT
12-06-2021, 09:51 AM
WDMSO:

"Stacey Abrams never said it was stolen, even though Jim posted a video where she told the US Senate it "was stolen". "

"NO ONE (even in caps for emphasis) in Georgia believes it was stolen. Anyway, it was stolen, because the white secretary of state stole it." - so which is it, was it stolen, or was it not stolen?

"64% of blacks aren't fully vaccinated, I bet those are the blacks who are Republicans"

"Republicans aren't getting vaccinated because of the immensely popular and influential person known as Bigtree".

That's some flawless logic there. Flawless.

wdmso
12-06-2021, 01:06 PM
WDMSO:

"Stacey Abrams never said it was stolen, even though Jim posted a video where she told the US Senate it "was stolen". "

"NO ONE (even in caps for emphasis) in Georgia believes it was stolen. Anyway, it was stolen, because the white secretary of state stole it." - so which is it, was it stolen, or was it not stolen?

"64% of blacks aren't fully vaccinated, I bet those are the blacks who are Republicans"

"Republicans aren't getting vaccinated because of the immensely popular and influential person known as Bigtree".

That's some flawless logic there. Flawless.

Who you love making stuff up!

Why do you take actual stories with links .. then insert your own interpretation…. With out reading the article


Maybe you get your info from Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s claim that, “in most states,” Black residents are “the biggest group” of unvaccinated people.

He then added: “Well, the biggest group in most states are African Americans who have not been vaccinated. The last time I checked, over 90% of them vote for Democrats in their major cities and major counties.”

However, there is no support for the claim that Black people are the “biggest group” of people who have yet to get a shot.

a nonpartisan, health-issues organization, reported that across 40 states with comparable data as of Aug. 16, the percentage of people who had received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine was 50% for whites, 45% for Hispanics and 40% for Blacks. Because Blacks (41.1 million) and Hispanics (62.1 million) make up a much smaller portion of the overall U.S. population than whites (204.3 million), those percentages indicate that, in raw numbers, far more white people remain unvaccinated against the disease.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/scicheck-texas-lt-gov-patricks-false-claim-about-unvaccinated-black-people/

I know fact-checking sites are fake
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scottw
12-06-2021, 01:15 PM
in a recent poll it was shown that vaccinated republicans are likely to get vaccinated and then just go live their lives...

whereas...

vaccinated democrats were 100 times more likely to get vaccinated and then never shut the %ucK up about it :laugha:

The Dad Fisherman
12-06-2021, 01:19 PM
in a recent poll it was shown that vaccinated republicans are likely to get vaccinated and then just go live their lives...

whereas...

vaccinated democrats were 100 times more likely to get vaccinated and then never shut the %ucK up about it :laugha:

They’re the new Vegans
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Jim in CT
12-06-2021, 01:38 PM
Who you love making stuff up!

Why do you take actual stories with links .. then insert your own interpretation…. With out reading the article


Maybe you get your info from Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s claim that, “in most states,” Black residents are “the biggest group” of unvaccinated people.

He then added: “Well, the biggest group in most states are African Americans who have not been vaccinated. The last time I checked, over 90% of them vote for Democrats in their major cities and major counties.”

However, there is no support for the claim that Black people are the “biggest group” of people who have yet to get a shot.

a nonpartisan, health-issues organization, reported that across 40 states with comparable data as of Aug. 16, the percentage of people who had received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine was 50% for whites, 45% for Hispanics and 40% for Blacks. Because Blacks (41.1 million) and Hispanics (62.1 million) make up a much smaller portion of the overall U.S. population than whites (204.3 million), those percentages indicate that, in raw numbers, far more white people remain unvaccinated against the disease.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/scicheck-texas-lt-gov-patricks-false-claim-about-unvaccinated-black-people/

I know fact-checking sites are fake
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I majored in math. I know (and never said or implied otherwise) that there are more unvaccinated white people than blacks. Lots more.

What I said (and I'm 100% correct) is that if you look at vaccination rates (do you know what a "rate" is? It's not clear that you do) by race, blacks have the very lowest vaccination rate of any race.

A 'rate' isn't the raw number that are unvaccinated, it's not the count of how many. it's the percentage that are unvaccinated. More than 60% of blacks aren't fully vaccinated. You said very clearly, those are blacks who are republicans, which is hysterical, because you also love to point out that there are so few blacks who are republicans.

If very few blacks are republicans (which is true), and 60% of blacks are not fully vaccinated (which is also true), how can you say the majority of unvaccinated blacks are republicans? How does that make any sense at all?

You also felt qualified to speculate on why so many republicans choose not to get vaccinated. Fine. Since you're the resident expert on why certain groups choose not to get vaccinated, please speculate as to why a high rate (again, that means a high percentage, not a high raw number) of blacks aren't getting vaccinated.

Jim: blacks have the highest rate of people who aren't vaccinated.

WDMSO: Jim is an idiot! He says there are more black people than white people!

Problem is, I never, ever came close to saying that.

Raider Ronnie
12-06-2021, 02:46 PM
those pillows are on deep discount and would make a tremendous Christmas gift for your loved ones...I bet you can get some at the Let's Go Brandon Store



I was in the Lets Go Brandon store in North Attleboro late day Saturday.
Didn’t see any pillows.
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Pete F.
12-07-2021, 09:45 AM
Donald Trump helped elect two Democratic Senators in Georgia last year.

Now, he is going to help elect a Democratic Governor in Georgia next year.
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Raider Ronnie
12-07-2021, 11:57 AM
Donald Trump helped elect two Democratic Senators in Georgia last year.

Now, he is going to help elect a Democratic Governor in Georgia next year.
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No
In Dimensia Joe’s own words.


https://youtu.be/WGRnhBmHYN0
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Pete F.
12-07-2021, 01:03 PM
Backed by Donald Trump, former Sen. Perdue plans to primary Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp by releasing a video message & filing his paperwork, as early as Monday.

And it's always a good time to bring up that David Perdue, Kelly Loeffler, Richard Burr, Ron Johnson, Dan Crenshaw, Jim Inhofe committed insider trading at the start of the pandemic in March 2020. That should never disappear.

Raider Ronnie
12-07-2021, 02:14 PM
Backed by Donald Trump, former Sen. Perdue plans to primary Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp by releasing a video message & filing his paperwork, as early as Monday.

And it's always a good time to bring up that David Perdue, Kelly Loeffler, Richard Burr, Ron Johnson, Dan Crenshaw, Jim Inhofe committed insider trading at the start of the pandemic in March 2020. That should never disappear.




https://youtu.be/WGRnhBmHYN0
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